[RUMOR] Possible bad news about the One Piece dub [RUMOR]

[lo0p]

EDIT: CONFIRMED Check the schedule at cartoon network (http://schedule.cartoonnetwork.com/xmlServices/ScheduleServices?methodName=mainSchedule), no more One Piece at 10PM!!!

UPDATE 3/29: :cry

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=22565

A representative of Cartoon Network confirmed for Toon Zone News that the anime series One Piece will not be returning to their schedule at this time. The representative stated that all their new episodes of One Piece have been aired already, and the series will not be repeated. The network will be replacing it in their programming lineup.

FUNimation Entertainment had not responded to a request for comment as of press time.



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Just read this post on GameFAQS anime message board from someone named "Sketchor":

Toonami schedule changes

The Naruto filler hour will continue from 9PM-11PM

But the 10PM hour of new One Piece and Cell Games Dragonball Z is leaving at the end of March.

That's right DBZ episodes that haven't been seen in about 4 years are gone along with brand new episodes of the good dub of One Piece.

What's replacing them you ask?

Brace yourself.

Blue Dragon joins the block. I can't say I didn't see that one coming and it's easily going to be the most watchable thing on the block because what takes the other spot is of course... an extra showing of Bakugan.

Seriously CN... what the ****.

And with that, Toonami is dead and if it isn't then it SHOULD BE because it's clear CN considers it nothing more than the block they air anime on that isn't Pokemon.

On the up side. Howl's Moving Castle will air in March (it got delayed from February).

Sorry to say I don't have better details currently but I'll try to get them now that I have access to an internet connection again.


Here's the original link (http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000120&topic=41651548). Checked some other posts of his and he didn't seem like the local message board bs'er. If this is true, might be a good idea to start writing to CN to see what's going on.

[Mullet_Power]

Wow that's pretty shocking. Hopefully even if it gets taken off the air they still release the dvd's. I want some way to get some legit One Piece eps without importing T_T.

[manifest one piece]

I am about to roll over and die
does anybody know if there airing One Piece in the Funimation Channel and i agreed with Mullet I hope they still realese the DVD

[Broleta]

Wow CN are idiots. An hour of Naruto fillers and replacing One Piece and DBZ? Are they mad?

[competitionbros]

Could CN be that retarded?

[Gary]

dang their retard they toke op and dbz off

[Powdered Toast Man]

lol Toonami...Adult Swim is the only thing worth watching anyway

I actually will buy the DVD's if they get released from season 1.

[Doom85]

Don't worry, One Piece will eventually be back. I've heard Funimation is almost done finished dubbing the the entire Skypiea, and will soon start on the Davy Back Fight arc. So it will return, it's simply on hiatus. Same thing happened with Bleach and Naruto for a while.

[jinjue]

Wow CN are idiots. An hour of Naruto fillers and replacing One Piece and DBZ? Are they mad?
I don't get it either. Unless One Piece was doing terribly, which I'm honestly not sure if it was or not, why take it off the air? Especially for of Naruto fillers because let's face it, Naruto fillers were bad enough to have caused more than one person to seek out alternate forms of anime based entertainment. But what I really don't understand is why they would replace DBZ – DB-fucking-Z! – with Naruto fillers. Isn't DBZ one of the most popular Toonami shows, like, ever? :confused

lol Toonami...Adult Swim is the only thing worth watching anyway
Agreed, though I don't watch their anime line-up much at all. I actually prefer Adult Swim's original content to their anime imports on the whole, like Metalocalypse or The Venture Bros.. Mmmm, Metalocalypse.

So it will return, it's simply on hiatus.
But the question remains, why even put it on hiatus? The show is already struggling to recover from the grievous wounds inflicted upon it while in the hands of 4Kids and is only now clawing its way tooth and nail out of the hole that it had been buried in. The worst thing that Cartoon Network could do would be to muck about with its schedule, because that would cut it off at the knees to kill its ratings even further. Also, at only one episode a week it'll take a seriously, seriously long time for the show to actually progress anywhere. The Skypiea arc has another thirty some odd episodes before it's finished. Even if it continues at the rate it's going now, it'll be more than seven months – seven months! – before we even get to G8, let alone to the Davy Back Fight. Putting it on hiatus would push that snail's schedule back even further, assuming that the show would ever be able to recover from being temporarily taken off the air in the first place.

Meh, I just don't get it.

[Doom85]

I don't get it either. Unless One Piece was doing terribly, which I'm honestly not sure if it was or not, why take it off the air? Especially for of Naruto fillers because let's face it, Naruto fillers were bad enough to have caused more than one person to seek out alternate forms of anime based entertainment. But what I really don't understand is why they would replace DBZ – DB-fucking-Z! – with Naruto fillers. Isn't DBZ one of the most popular Toonami shows, like, ever? :confused

Simple. CN wants to hurry through the fillers so they can get to Shippuden faster. That way, one of their highest rated shows will be back on top. Especially since the first Shippuden manga volume comes out in March, so they don’t want to fall too behind.

[StrawHat4Life]

Simple. CN wants to hurry through the fillers so they can get to Shippuden faster. That way, one of their highest rated shows will be back on top. Especially since the first Shippuden manga volume comes out in March, so they don’t want to fall too behind.

It's possible that the fillers could erode Naruto's audience but you never know what US audiences will stomach hell they might not even tell they're fillers. CN needs to stick with OP. Reclaiming audience trust doesn't happen overnight especially after the 4Kids regime.

[Seto Kaiba]

Could CN be that retarded?

Well, look what they did to Tom...

[Amatsu]

I'm just pissed. It honestly feels like CN is purposely trying to make One Piece fail so it doesn't become more popular than Naruto.

I mean we finally get the dub we wanted from the start and now CN is screwing with us? Just... Just damn them...

[Masaki]

Bah, I stopped watching CN (along with all TV these days, but this still pisses me off). As jinjue said using words I could never replicate, this is only going to cut off what little hope OP had for coming back.

And besides, Naruto fillers were the shittiest things in the history of animation. None of them ever failed to either make a plot hole, ruin a character, and/or have a princess in it. And if it had a prince, chances are it's a princess cross dressing. The animation consistently sucked, and only two good episodes (101 and 161) came out of the entire 100+ filler episodes. Though, I have to thank them for one thing. If not for fillers, I wouldn't have realized that there's better series out there than Naruto. Upon further observation, I discovered that finding a better series was easier than I expected.

[Spike31589]

there is a reason for the extra block of naruto to skip through the filler more quickly and get to shippuden and then put one piece back on the air

[Masaki]

Fillers and Shippudden are terrible.

[Kyon]

Uh, wouldn't it make sense for the Naruto dub to remain relatively behind Shippudden at this point? Why rush through the fillers?

They're there for a purpose. Keep the fillers at a slower pace, and stop fucking around with other anime.

If this is true (I seriously doubt it, nobody is that stupid) then the top executives at CN need to be replaced with people smarter than a log.

[jinjue]

Simple. CN wants to hurry through the fillers so they can get to Shippuden faster. That way, one of their highest rated shows will be back on top.
But there is already an hour's worth of Naruto every Saturday, and it sounds like they're punting both One Piece and DBZ to the curb for two completely different shows: Blue Dragon and Bakugan, the latter of which is another one of those glorified, half-hour long, cartoon toy/game commercials. So giving One Piece the boot won't help Naruto progress any faster at all. Even if they did decide to replace it all with one huge block of Naruto, it would probably only help to turn fans away from the series because the fillers are truly, truly ass. It's a goddamned miracle that the show didn't die from filler-cancer in the same way that Rurouni Kenshin did, especially since Naruto's fillers were even worse than Rurouni Kenshin's ever were, in my opinion. Also, if they really wanted to blitz through the fillers they could just move it to a daily timeslot during the week instead of showing it only on Saturdays.

And again, no matter what's replacing it, by removing the dub for One Piece even temporarily Cartoon Network may as well go ahead and start ringing its death knell now. The odds of One Piece being able to make any kind of comeback with those nigh insurmountable hurdles in front of it are likely so low that they may as well be zero. One Piece is having a hard enough time simply with trying to reclaim the audience that 4Kids had all but beaten away, and if that wasn't bad enough it seems like Cartoon Network is actively trying to handicap it even further. If I didn't know any better – and really, I don't – I'd be inclined to say that Cartoon Network was purposefully trying to fuck with us by sabotaging any hope for salvaging the show's potential for success. Like Masaki said, "this is only going to cut off what little hope OP had for coming back."

[Amatsu]

there is a reason for the extra block of naruto to skip through the filler more quickly and get to shippuden and then put one piece back on the air

Who cares? Shippuden sucks worse than filler hell did. Why get rid of One Piece to make people suffer even more?

[Masaki]

Who cares? Shippuden sucks worse than filler hell did. Why get rid of One Piece to make people suffer even more?

It's sad, but I survived the fillers and quit Shippuden. :(

[Amatsu]

It's sad, but I survived the fillers and quit Shippuden. :(

I had quit the fillers after 178 and never bothered with Shippuden because after reading the manga it kinda kills whatever hope you have of Shippuden actually being good.

Besides do we even need to remind people of the Gai vs Gai clone fight? That's considered the worst fight ever in shippuden?

[lo0p]

Replacing One Piece with some other anime only for a few months just to give Funimation more time to dub doesn't really make sense. They could just air some of the old arcs again or even better, air the Baroque Works episodes that were left out in the 4kids dub. Doesn't make sense to temporarily take One Piece off the air just when it's starting to take off.

[Smash_2451]

It'd be better if Toonami just stopped bending over and took one of the new Naruto episodes away in favor of something else. Seriously, it's like they're trying to outdo DBZ's level of popularity. And I don't get why they WANT to catch up to the Japanese episodes anyway- shouldn't there be some sort of gap between the English and Japanese releases of the same series? Why would Naruto be the first to break that mold? It's nothing revolutionary.

It's sad. I'm still not completely won over by the Funimation dub- granted, some of the performances are better than the 4Kids counterparts (not all. I still say Marc Diraison did a better job of Zolo), but how will people get to experience more of One Piece if Toonami keeps bumping it for Naruto?

[Jetstorm]

Fucking ridiculous and I wouldn't put it passed CN to pull such a stunt. I have been pissed at them ever since they took off shows like Gash Bell and Prince of Tennis just so they could spam their precious Naruto even more. I revel in the fact that it is all downhill for that anime series since the fillers suck and Shippuden didn't live up to its initial hype(plus it just sucks).

Doing this would be a retarded move on their part and would put the fucking nail in the coffin for OP in the US.

[Lord Genome]

This is only serious if its actually true. Which im not so sure, since that Bakugan show already has a time black outside of Toonami IIRC


Uh, wouldn't it make sense for the Naruto dub to remain relatively behind Shippudden at this point? Why rush through the fillers?

They're there for a purpose. Keep the fillers at a slower pace, and stop fucking around with other anime.

If this is true (I seriously doubt it, nobody is that stupid) then the top executives at CN need to be replaced with people smarter than a log.
Actually apparently they want to air the dubs the same time the subs come out, so tehy can be all caught up or soemthing like that.

[Masaki]

Fucking ridiculous and I wouldn't put it passed CN to pull such a stunt. I have been pissed at them ever since they took off shows like Gash Bell and Prince of Tennis just so they could spam their precious Naruto even more. I revel in the fact that it is all downhill for that anime series since the fillers suck and Shippuden didn't live up to its initial hype(plus it just sucks).

Doing this would be a retarded move on their part and would put the fucking nail in the coffin for OP in the US.

Reality will kick their asses sooner or later.

[lo0p]

Looks like the rumor was true. Just checked cn's schedule and no more OP.

[Dr. Hiluruk]

we already knew this. well, over at arlong park we''ve known this was true fer a few weeks.

we can only hope one piece returns soon. D=

[Shoddragon]

in all honesty, I watch an episode yesterday which showcased eneru on cartoonetwork. now I don't care the results I get from this comment but the voices were shit. They did allow for less child friendly garbage than 4kids, but I mean luffy's voice sounded more like the japanese voice during the 4kids dub, and sanji's voice is just BLEGH.

I'm almost glad they removed it because now I don't have to listen to bad voice acting ( although better music I must say) from my brother watching it in his room.

I still think CN should offer the choice or english subbed or dubbed anime. I think they would make a lot more money like that, and people would be a lot happier.

EDIT: why were they re running old dragonball z episodes anyway? I'm confused. I liked when it was 1 or 2 naruto episodes a saturday and sometimes 4 a saturday. Not exactly sure where, but a friend of mine found english dubbed episodes of shippuden so yea. whats up with that?

[Doc. Q]

I still think CN should offer the choice or english subbed or dubbed anime. I think they would make a lot more money like that, and people would be a lot happier.


Protip: americano's don't like reading and people are considered nerds for watching the shows anyway. Subs would never feasibly be aired.

[Amatsu]

Fucking ridiculous and I wouldn't put it passed CN to pull such a stunt. I have been pissed at them ever since they took off shows like Gash Bell and Prince of Tennis just so they could spam their precious Naruto even more. I revel in the fact that it is all downhill for that anime series since the fillers suck and Shippuden didn't live up to its initial hype(plus it just sucks).

Doing this would be a retarded move on their part and would put the fucking nail in the coffin for OP in the US.

I agree. I'm pissed off that they took off good shows like Gash Bell just to put more of their damn precious Naruto on, but then again it seems CN and Viz like to suck Naruto's cock because of all the NaruTards that keep it popular in the US.

What sucks even more is that they're replacing One Piece with fucking Bakugan. I mean who the fuck is going to watch that piece of shit? It sucks that One Piece finally gets a great dub with great voices and it's almost practically uncut and it gets canned for fucking Bakugan.

[Shoddragon]

Protip: americano's don't like reading and people and considered nerds for watching the shows anyway. Subs would never feasibly be aired.

lazy bastards. LOL I don't know, thats why I said they should offer a choice between the two. I would rather have nothing to do and go watch subbed naruto than want to commit suicide watching horrible dubbed voices for one piece. well one day subbed anime will be available to readily watch from our TVs, and we have cars moving at lightspeed :LOS

[Amatsu]

I like the funi cast though and I think they do a great job voicing the characters. Heck Chris Sabat is a great Zoro.

[Seto Kaiba]

I like the funi cast though and I think they do a great job voicing the characters. Heck Chris Sabat is a great Zoro.

I think he's good too, but I think he could also put a bit more feeling in his voice.

[jinjue]

we can only hope one piece returns soon. D=
It would have to be very soon, but from the looks of things that won't be happening. One Piece is being replaced by an entirely new series, one that I doubt is only going to air for a few weeks before leaving for One Piece to return. Unless the line up for Toonami changes drastically enough this next month to accommodate both of the new series, the relentless spamming of Naruto and all of their other programmes, you may as well kiss dubbed One Piece on television goodbye.

Not that it will really matter anymore. It's unfortunate, but I'm forced to stand in agreement with Jetstorm that this is just one more nail in the coffin that was the One Piece fandom in the US.

in all honesty, I watch an episode yesterday which showcased eneru on cartoonetwork. now I don't care the results I get from this comment but the voices were shit. They did allow for less child friendly garbage than 4kids, but I mean luffy's voice sounded more like the japanese voice during the 4kids dub, and sanji's voice is just BLEGH.
Whereas I think that, for the most part, the Funimation actors are great and the 4Kids actors were so terrible that a word has yet to be invented to describe how terrible they really were. The only 4Kids actor for One Piece that didn't sound like the devil's dripping asshole was Marc Diraison as Zolo, and I still prefer Chris Sabat over him. Conversely, the only Funimation actor that I dislike so far is Brina Palencia, because I think she sounds too much like a cutesy little girl.

As for Sanji, all I can say is that I'm so fucking glad I've never had the misfortune to ever meet David Moo because the temptation to punch him in the throat for being one of the worst voice actors I've ever heard in my entire life would be too much to resist. I've said it before in another thread, but compared to the complete and total assfest that is the entirety of David Moo, Eric Vale's voice acting is nothing short of legendary. Sure his voice doesn't have any distinctive characteristics but I see that as a good thing because really, neither does Hiroaki Hirata's. David Moo, on the other hand, sounded like a lobotomized Dr. Girlfriend with throat cancer. Just like with every other one of his roles I've ever suffered through, he completely ruined the English version of the character for me.

I still think CN should offer the choice or english subbed or dubbed anime. I think they would make a lot more money like that, and people would be a lot happier.
This would never work with the technology that we have now. Subbed anime on television would never be as popular as English dubbed anime and the number of people who would want to watch it subtitled wouldn't be enough to make the option worthwhile. It just isn't feasible.

What sucks even more is that they're replacing One Piece with fucking Bakugan. I mean who the fuck is going to watch that piece of shit?
I have no idea. I could understand putting Bakugan on at an earlier time to draw in the whole Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Ou! crowd, but scheduling it at 2200 just seems stupid on many levels to me.

[Amatsu]

It would have to be very soon, but from the looks of things that won't be happening. One Piece is being replaced by an entirely new series, one that I doubt is only going to air for a few weeks before leaving for One Piece to return. Unless the line up for Toonami changes drastically enough this next month to accommodate both of the new series, the relentless spamming of Naruto and all of their other programmes, you may as well kiss dubbed One Piece on television goodbye.

Not that it will really matter anymore. It's unfortunate, but I'm forced to stand in agreement with Jetstorm that this is just one more nail in the coffin that was the One Piece fandom in the US.


Whereas I think that, for the most part, the Funimation actors are great and the 4Kids actors were so terrible that a word has yet to be invented to describe how terrible they really were. The only 4Kids actor for One Piece that didn't sound like the devil's dripping asshole was Marc Diraison as Zolo, and I still prefer Chris Sabat over him. Conversely, the only Funimation actor that I dislike so far is Brina Palencia, because I think she sounds too much like a cutesy little girl.

As for Sanji, all I can say is that I'm so fucking glad I've never had the misfortune to ever meet David Moo because the temptation to punch him in the throat for being one of the worst voice actors I've ever heard in my entire life would be too much to resist. I've said it before in another thread, but compared to the complete and total assfest that is the entirety of David Moo, Eric Vale's voice acting is nothing short of legendary. Sure his voice doesn't have any distinctive characteristics but I see that as a good thing because really, neither does Hiroaki Hirata's. David Moo, on the other hand, sounded like a lobotomized Dr. Girlfriend with throat cancer. Just like with every other one of his roles I've ever suffered through, he completely ruined the English version of the character for me.


This would never work with the technology that we have now. Subbed anime on television would never be as popular as English dubbed anime and the number of people who would want to watch it subtitled wouldn't be enough to make the option worthwhile. It just isn't feasible.


I have no idea. I could understand putting Bakugan on at an earlier time to draw in the whole Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Ou! crowd, but scheduling it at 2200 just seems stupid on many levels to me.

Personally I think the entire Funi cast has been great. I mean Sonny Strait has done an excellent job with Usopp. Chris Sabat pretty much has Zoro down to a tee, and heck even Colleen does a great job with Luffy.

and I agree. I mean to me it seems like CN is replacing One Piece with a less popular show on purpose just so Naruto stays on top. It's the only reason I can think of. There's no fucking reason for CN to remove One Piece from the line up and replace it with some lame Yugioh ripoff unless they just wanted to keep One Piece from getting more popular than their little cash cow Naruto.

[Shoddragon]

maybe its just I had a bit more time with the the 4kids dub, but I seriously think that the Funimation dub lacks any motivation whatsoever. all their voices sound as bad as the pokemon pearl and diamond dub voices IMO, especially Ash's now sounding 13 year old fat white kid voice.

[jinjue]

Personally I think the entire Funi cast has been great. I mean Sonny Strait has done an excellent job with Usopp. Chris Sabat pretty much has Zoro down to a tee, and heck even Colleen does a great job with Luffy.
I like all of the other voice actors, personally. I agree with you that Sonny Strait is awesome incarnate and that Chris Sabat nailed Zoro; I know a lot of people still prefer Marc Diraison, but Chris Sabat's deadpan delivery never fails to amuse me. It took me a little while to get used to Colleen Clickenbeard, but now I like her as Luffy as well. She's no Mayumi Tanaka – really, who is? – but I really think that she's really gone and made the character her own. Luci Christian probably isn't quite as strong as some of the others and her Nami isn't quite the ballbuster that she is in the Japanese, but I enjoy her performance as well and Stephanie Young as Nico Robin is excellent, even though I will admit that she is a bit of a bitch when she shouldn't be. So far I like almost everyone, even most of the side characters.

Brina Palencia is the only voice that I actively dislike; at first I thought that I could get used to it but I think that she's just too high pitched to play a boy. I know that Chopper is supposed to be cutesy and adorable and all that, but Ikue Ohtani at least made him sound like a prepubescent boy, not a prepubescent girl. If Brina Palencia can deepen her voice even just a little bit I'd probably like her performance better, but as it stands right now I can't honestly say that I like it.

and I agree. I mean to me it seems like CN is replacing One Piece with a less popular show on purpose just so Naruto stays on top.
I don't think I'm cynical enough to think of that as the reason, but I am cynical enough to admit that if it was, it really wouldn't surprise me. As for me, I'm more inclined to think that Cartoon Network is just being stupid again. It wouldn't be the first time, after all. But if they did drop it because of some Naruto fellating conspiracy...well, to say that I'd be upset would be like saying that the War of the Roses was merely a little spat with the in-laws.

maybe its just I had a bit more time with the the 4kids dub, but I seriously think that the Funimation dub lacks any motivation whatsoever. all their voices sound as bad as the pokemon pearl and diamond dub voices IMO, especially Ash's now sounding 13 year old fat white kid voice.
I concede that that's your opinion, but I'll never be able to agree with it. The 4Kids dub was an intolerable abomination that made my ears bleed and it gave me yet another reason to despise the very earth that David Moo treads upon. The Funimation dub, however, is one that I think is not only truer and more respectful of the original source material, but it flat out sounds better to me as well.

[Lord Genome]

Im in the opinion that they only put Bakugan on Toonami to try to get it some attention. As soon as it starts to fail mabye OP will come back.

Hopefully :(

[Amatsu]

I like all of the other voice actors, personally. I agree with you that Sonny Strait is awesome incarnate and that Chris Sabat nailed Zoro; I know a lot of people still prefer Marc Diraison, but Chris Sabat's deadpan delivery never fails to amuse me. It took me a little while to get used to Colleen Clickenbeard, but now I like her as Luffy as well. She's no Mayumi Tanaka – really, who is? – but I really think that she's really gone and made the character her own. Luci Christian probably isn't quite as strong as some of the others and her Nami isn't quite the ballbuster that she is in the Japanese, but I enjoy her performance as well and Stephanie Young as Nico Robin is excellent, even though I will admit that she is a bit of a bitch when she shouldn't be. So far I like almost everyone, even most of the side characters.

Brina Palencia is the only voice that I actively dislike; at first I thought that I could get used to it but I think that she's just too high pitched to play a boy. I know that Chopper is supposed to be cutesy and adorable and all that, but Ikue Ohtani at least made him sound like a prepubescent boy, not a prepubescent girl. If Brina Palencia can deepen her voice even just a little bit I'd probably like her performance better, but as it stands right now I can't honestly say that I like it.


I don't think I'm cynical enough to think of that as the reason, but I am cynical enough to admit that if it was, it really wouldn't surprise me. As for me, I'm more inclined to think that Cartoon Network is just being stupid again. It wouldn't be the first time, after all. But if they did drop it because of some Naruto fellating conspiracy...well, to say that I'd be upset would be like saying that the War of the Roses was merely a little spat with the in-laws.


I concede that that's your opinion, but I'll never be able to agree with it. The 4Kids dub was an intolerable abomination that made my ears bleed and it gave me yet another reason to despise the very earth that David Moo treads upon. The Funimation dub, however, is one that I think is not only truer and more respectful of the original source material, but it flat out sounds better to me as well.

meh I think the rest of the crew is great too, and I don't think Robin really sounds bitchy at all but that's me.

Meh I guess I'm just too cynical then when it comes to CN and Viz. Heck if I know if it's some conspiracy but considering how they spam Naruto on Toonami and get rid of all the good shows so that nothing can stand in the way of Naruto's ratings. It seems to me it's one big conspiracy. I mean lets face it Toonami was a four hour block that CN cut two hours from for fucking goosebumps. Half of the remaining slots are for Naruto and then One Piece and DBZ are shoved into the last two slots of the night like CN doesn't even give a shit about them. It's even more proven now that they're replacing One Piece with Bakugan. It's like they're saying "hey you've already watched Naruto so why are you still watching toonami?"

[Dr. Hiluruk]

i TOTALLY dig robin. im stoked. the only voices i have ANY issues with are chopper and sanji. i dun't even know why i have a beef with chopper. sanji's i just dunno.

i don't hate the two, but i don't love them neither.

that said, usopp grew on me, and i fidn ti to be near perfect.

[Xell]

Maybe One Piece is being taken off the air for a while so Funimation can dub more episodes.

Then it might get put in a slightly later timeslot, meaning less edits as well. And maybe they will have a Skypiea marathon, meaning we could get through this arc quicker than we would have first thought.

Bah, I'm just trying to look on the brightside.

[Superrazien]

Yeah this is pretty gay, but I seriously think Naruto is going to loose a massive fan base, not just because of the fillers, because besides episode 1-2 of Shippuuden the whole anime series is ass, its so boring, they changed the music from that up beat Japanese rock that the kidies seemed to like, to an orchestral music which I don't think will give the kiddies the game feeling. Anyways what ever Narutos peek ratings were, it will probably stay that.

As for taking off One Piece, words can't describe how much of an idiotic move this is, I mean One Piece must of got good ratings, to recall it for a brand dub, and being on TV as long as it has been with all of its handicaps. I'm sure if OP got the Naruto treatment it would be leaps and bounds ahead of Naruto and might of came close to toping DBZ in its day.

I Just think Cartoon Network has a thing for Viz, with the success of Naruto, Bleach, and Death Note. I think they are slowing just taking off all shows that are not Viz. Bakugan is just there for filler until they find a Viz show to replace it with.

Blue Dragon replacing DBZ I can't really complain about I mean they must of shown the entire DBZ series like 10 times already. But I watched some of Blue Dragon in Japanese and it was pretty stupid, I wish they could of found another anime that was decent to replace it. Or for the love of god bring back Yu Yu Hakusho.


Oh and for the record I doubt this is being done so Funi can Dub more, I remember one of the people said they were already dubbing Choppers fight back in December so by now they are probably dubbing Water 7.

[jinjue]

meh I think the rest of the crew is great too, and I don't think Robin really sounds bitchy at all but that's me.
I think that Stephanie Young has had moments where she's been really condescending or sarcastic as Robin, personally. Like the time she snidely referred to Usopp as a genius when he was trying to convert beli (bellies? beri? berries?) into extols, or when she told Nami that she had some "serious greed issues". It's hilarious, but I will admit that it isn't exactly appropriate for the character. But other than that, I think her voice is perfect for Robin.

I mean lets face it Toonami was a four hour block that CN cut two hours from for fucking goosebumps. Half of the remaining slots are for Naruto and then One Piece and DBZ are shoved into the last two slots of the night like CN doesn't even give a shit about them.
I totally agree that Cartoon Network gave Toonami the shaft. I remember when Toonami dominated the weekdays with some great classics, imports and house shows. But now it's almost like some kind of half-forgotten afterthought. As for Goosebumps, it's total shit and I truly don't believe that it should even be on Cartoon Network. Why? Note the "cartoon" half of the channel's name. That cheap live action rubbish needs to go.

I'll never understand the logic in putting another cheap Pokémon knockoff on so late at night though. Blue Dragon replacing DBZ is equally stupid, but at least I can understand the reasoning behind replacing DBZ with something designed by Toriyama. But Bakugan replacing One Piece? Alex, I'd like "logic for the fucking fail" for $800, please.

TOTALLY dig robin. im stoked. the only voices i have ANY issues with are chopper and sanji. i dun't even know why i have a beef with chopper. sanji's i just dunno.

i don't hate the two, but i don't love them neither.
I love Robin's new English voice, but I think that some of her lines and delivery need to be a little, well, nicer. Sanji's new voice isn't perfect, but compared to David Moo he's sterling in my opinion. Most of the complaints for Eric Vale I've heard were from people who dislike the fact that he sounds so average, but I think that works in his favour because the original Sanji doesn't really have a super distinct, unique sounding voice unless he's in his mellorine-thunderdork-love-cook mode. I think that Hiroaki Hirata's performance is notable because of the way that Sanji talks, not because of how his voice sounds, so I personally don't have a problem with Eric Vale's Sanji sounding like a fairly normal guy either.

that said, usopp grew on me, and i fidn ti to be near perfect.
Sonny Strait is pure, unadulterated win.

Maybe One Piece is being taken off the air for a while so Funimation can dub more episodes.
Didn't Funimation say that they were already dubbed up to G8 quite some time ago?

Then it might get put in a slightly later timeslot, meaning less edits as well. And maybe they will have a Skypiea marathon, meaning we could get through this arc quicker than we would have first thought.
If it was put on later, it'd be in Adult Swim and I don't know if it would do well in that programming block, to be honest. I can already hear some of the fanboys bitching about how some stupid kiddy shit was being put in Adult Swim if that happened, just as I remember hearing the exact same complaints being made about Meitantei Conan when it was on Adult Swim. I do agree that Cartoon Network would need to step up in their programming to get through the anime faster though; even if One Piece hadn't been dropped it would have still taken forever to finish Skypiea off at a rate of just one episode per week.

I also agree with Supperrazien; I sincerely doubt that the popular fandom for Naruto will last for too much longer. At the very least I think some of the fervour for the show will die down, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the one-two combo punch of filler hell and Naruto: Shippuden would prove to be enough to knock it off of its pedestal entirely.

I'm sure if OP got the Naruto treatment it would be leaps and bounds ahead of Naruto and might of came close to toping DBZ in its day.
I agree, to a degree. There would probably still be some detractors who would shy away from the show because of the art style, but had Funimation the license from the very beginning I'm sure that the popular fanbase for One Piece would be exponentially higher than it is now. 4Kids bowdlerising it for the four to seven year old market killed it with fire, and they were butchering it for so long I'm surprised that the Funimation version was able to rise out of the ashes at all. Too bad it's getting cut off at the knees again now by Cartoon Network, right when it had the chance, however small, to start gaining some real momentum in the US.

I Just think Cartoon Network has a thing for Viz, with the success of Naruto, Bleach, and Death Note.
Well, Viz does have the manga license, not that they're doing much with it. Stupid Viz. :notrust

[Superrazien]

You see what One Piece needs is a good Promo, like the ones they gave DBZ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJdHrN01wG4&feature=related

Also with the Naruto fillers taking over ( and will eventually turn into the ass that is Shippuuden), One Piece leaving for Bakugan, DBZ leaving for Blue Dragon, and canceling great shows like Yu Yu Hakusho, and the Gundam Series. I think we can agree Toonami is dead ( apparently Tom is to, his new body is shit). In memory of the old Toonami heres a clip from when it was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUM7h4SVsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V24ePGebJO0

[Kyon]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2397/davidmoolw1.jpg

Punch away, jinjue.

As for Toonami, Naruto is probably going to lose its popularity really fast once Shippuden starts. Then One Piece came come in and marvel the audiences. :nuts

One can only hope.

[Dr. Hiluruk]

oh, i dunno about that. i think it'll fizzle during the filler. well, the longer it goes, fer one, but those who read the manga too know what's up, and will not bother watching.

shipuuden actually raised my interest fer a little bit, but i read the manga too, so why bother doing both unless im actually into it?

[Amatsu]

I think that Stephanie Young has had moments where she's been really condescending or sarcastic as Robin, personally. Like the time she snidely referred to Usopp as a genius when he was trying to convert beli (bellies? beri? berries?) into extols, or when she told Nami that she had some "serious greed issues". It's hilarious, but I will admit that it isn't exactly appropriate for the character. But other than that, I think her voice is perfect for Robin.


I totally agree that Cartoon Network gave Toonami the shaft. I remember when Toonami dominated the weekdays with some great classics, imports and house shows. But now it's almost like some kind of half-forgotten afterthought. As for Goosebumps, it's total shit and I truly don't believe that it should even be on Cartoon Network. Why? Note the "cartoon" half of the channel's name. That cheap live action rubbish needs to go.

I'll never understand the logic in putting another cheap Pokémon knockoff on so late at night though. Blue Dragon replacing DBZ is equally stupid, but at least I can understand the reasoning behind replacing DBZ with something designed by Toriyama. But Bakugan replacing One Piece? Alex, I'd like "logic for the fucking fail" for $800, please.




Well to me Robin's always supposed to sound a little condescending and sarcastic. To me that's just a part of her character. Even if it's far more subtle in the Japanese version. So I really don't mind Robin's so called bitchiness. Actually I think it gives her character a little more flavor you know?

I don't even get why Goosebumps is even on CN. I mean it really has no place there. Plus even when it was on Fox Kids back in the day the series was shit. I've never found one single thing that's even remotely likable about Goosebumps. But then again I think R L Stine isn't a great writer at all so maybe that's why. But yeah I don't care about Blue Dragon, but why does One Piece have to go so CN can promote their new Yugioh ripoff? Duel Masters tanked so will this one.

[jinjue]

Punch away, jinjue.
Gyah, even his face annoys me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/jinjue/davidmoo.png
As infantile as it is, there's nothing like indulging in some paint-based childishness to make myself feel better.

Then One Piece came come in and marvel the audiences.
I think that the only flaw with that plan is that by then, the potential for a real US fandom for One Piece may already be dead. From the moment Viz got the manga license it was practically like everything was working against it, and even now after Funimation gave us some hope with their new dub, that hope was taken away by Cartoon Network. I know I'm probably sounding like a misery chick about it, but I really do think that the chances of One Piece getting a substantial fandom in the US even close to what Naruto, InuYasha or Bleach enjoy is pretty miniscule now, if not completely nonexistent. :(

Well to me Robin's always supposed to sound a little condescending and sarcastic.
I don't know, she always sounded distantly polite to me. Sometimes a little too cold and with a macabre wit, sure, but not openly condescending. But perhaps that is just me?

I don't even get why Goosebumps is even on CN. I mean it really has no place there.
Agreed, agreed and agreed some more. All of the live action nonsense on Cartoon Network needs to go because last I checked, CARTOON Network was supposed to be for CARTOONS. Che. :notrust

As for R.L Stine, I've never actually read his books so I don't know if they're any good or not. But Goosebumps the show can piss off forever for all I care. It's ass.

[Dr. Hiluruk]

i understand goosebumps in october. otherwise, im lost.

[Amatsu]

I don't know, she always sounded distantly polite to me. Sometimes a little too cold and with a macabre wit, sure, but not openly condescending. But perhaps that is just me?


Agreed, agreed and agreed some more. All of the live action nonsense on Cartoon Network needs to go because last I checked, CARTOON Network was supposed to be for CARTOONS. Che. :notrust

As for R.L Stine, I've never actually read his books so I don't know if they're any good or not. But Goosebumps the show can piss off forever for all I care. It's ass.

Meh well that's why I said it's a little more subtle in the Japanese version. The only difference is that Robin's wit in the dub tends to be a little more blunt. I have no problems with that though. It still suits Robin fine as far as I'm concerned.

I read some of the goosebumps books and they suck just as much and are just as cheesily written. Personally I can't see how anyone could like Goosebumps period. Still I agree with you. I mean I know they're going to put Kamen Rider on CN soon along with Beetleborgs but I'd prefer those any day to Goosebumps.

But overall it's a cartoon channel so it should all be about cartoons. Heck CN should be trying to put more anime ON their station. Not filling it up with their shitty series that already finished their run and the two crappy live action shows they got now.

[jinjue]

I read some of the goosebumps books and they suck just as much and are just as cheesily written.
That's what I've heard about them before. I always figured that they were cheesy little kid books, so I never bothered with them. Plus, I'm not really big into horror literature to begin with, outside of the classics like Shelly, Stoker and Lovecraft.

But overall it's a cartoon channel so it should all be about cartoons.
QFT.

Heck CN should be trying to put more anime ON their station.
I'd actually prefer it if they put on some of the older American cartoons from the 1980s and 1990s, myself. Having an anime block would be cool, even if I wouldn't watch 99% of it, but I wouldn't want Cartoon Network to turn into an anime channel. I'd really like to see some of the cartoons that I grew up with come back on the air, like Transformers, GI Joe, The Real Ghostbusters or even Johnny Quest instead of a bunch of shitty house stuff or anime imports.

[Amatsu]

That's what I've heard about them before. I always figured that they were cheesy little kid books, so I never bothered with them. Plus, I'm not really big into horror literature to begin with, outside of the classics like Shelly, Stoker and Lovecraft.


QFT.


I'd actually prefer it if they put on some of the older American cartoons from the 1980s and 1990s, myself. Having an anime block would be cool, even if I wouldn't watch 99% of it, but I wouldn't want Cartoon Network to turn into an anime channel. I'd really like to see some of the cartoons that I grew up with come back on the air, like Transformers, GI Joe, The Real Ghostbusters or even Johnny Quest instead of a bunch of shitty house stuff or anime imports.

I'm not much into horror literature either, but even when I was in elementary school I hated the Goosebumps books. I tried to read them but they were so horrendously written that I just couldn't stand them.

well I'd want them to still have an anime block but I'd love to see them bring back some of the old shows too. Though I doubt they could bring back what I'd want to see. You know stuff like old school TMNT and heck they should put muppet babies in place of that baby looney tunes shit. Heck they should even put swat kats and stuff on CN instead of putting it on Boomerang.

[jinjue]

well I'd want them to still have an anime block but I'd love to see them bring back some of the old shows too. Though I doubt they could bring back what I'd want to see. You know stuff like old school TMNT and heck they should put muppet babies in place of that baby looney tunes shit. Heck they should even put swat kats and stuff on CN instead of putting it on Boomerang.
A solid anime block would be cool, like a better version of Toonami. Anime peppered throughout the day wouldn't be bad either, though something other than Pokémon would be nice. Old School TMNT would be badass to the extreme, big time. Seeing it on television again would be the shit. Hell, even the new animated version of TMNT would be worthwhile.

As for Swat Kats, that's another one I'd love to see on Cartoon Network. Why is it on Boomerang? Just because it's Hanna Barbara doesn't mean it's the same as The Flintstones or Huckleberry Hound or any of those other classics. The same goes for stuff like Johnny Quest or Thundarr the Barbarian, though those are old and dated compared to Swat Kats. Besides, the Scooby Doo franchise still gets pimped out on Cartoon Network every so often, so why can't they air old episodes of Swat Kats? Or The Pirates of Dark Water. Hell yeah.

[Amatsu]

A solid anime block would be cool, like a better version of Toonami. Anime peppered throughout the day wouldn't be bad either, though something other than Pokémon would be nice. Old School TMNT would be badass to the extreme, big time. Seeing it on television again would be the shit. Hell, even the new animated version of TMNT would be worthwhile.

As for Swat Kats, that's another one I'd love to see on Cartoon Network. Why is it on Boomerang? Just because it's Hanna Barbara doesn't mean it's the same as The Flintstones or Huckleberry Hound or any of those other classics. The same goes for stuff like Johnny Quest or Thundarr the Barbarian, though those are old and dated compared to Swat Kats. Besides, the Scooby Doo franchise still gets pimped out on Cartoon Network every so often, so why can't they air old episodes of Swat Kats? Or The Pirates of Dark Water. Hell yeah.

Yeah they should bring stuff like the new Heman and maybe Thundarr, Swat Kats, etc. To be honest I'd love to see them try to revive Bucky O'Hare and the Toad Wars. That was sort of my favorite cartoon back during the early 90s even if it only ran for one season. I mean the whoel concept of the series was sensational.

and well I'd rather see the old TMNT than the new TMNT. I was never a big fan of the new TMNT.

But yeah I'd love to see one big huge afternoon anime block where it's more than just two hours long with many old favorites and even some new ones.

[Spike31589]

so is one piece offically off cn or is it coming back soon

[Mike Hunt]

Lol CN :facepalm .

[saiya-jin]

This is...utterly dissapointing. I mean, I understand why they are replacing OP and DBZ.

Funi needs more time to dub episodes, and DBZ has already been shown on CN over 9000 times, so that's okay.

But, the thing that irks me is what they're being replaced with. I watched an episode of "Bakugan" this morning and, yeah...it's just another one of those "Lawlz0rz lets brawl with cards/robots/strange creatures!1!11!!" (Nothing against anyone who likes those kinds of anime, I just don't like them that much.) and this one seems to be really bad.
However, I am looking forward to Blue Dragon. I've never really seen it, but I hear VIZ is dubbing it so it should be at least halfway decent.(I just hope they keep the original opening/ending themes, or at least the openings).

As for the Naruto fillers, anything to get to Shippuden faster. I don't particularily like Shippuden, but I don't particularily like fillers, either. I just want to see how VIZ will dub characters like Deidara and Tobi.(Plus, I think the filler is almost to the opening "Nami Kaze Satellite", which is my personal favorite :D)

So, all in all, I'm really only frustrated with Bakugan.... :S


But, if you want my honest opinion on something that may help:


GET RID OF GOOSEBUMPS

Sure, I loved it in the 90s, but it is old now, and it isn't a cartoon so take it off of CARTOON network!


EDIT: Holy Crap, I just remembered.

How about we put some Reboot back in the schedule? XD
I loved that show!

[jinjue]

I mean, I understand why they are replacing OP and DBZ.

Funi needs more time to dub episodes [...]
No they don't, at least not at this point. Funimation had already stated some time ago that they were dubbed up to the G8 arc and were soon to start work on the Davy Back Fight. At a rate of one episode per week, the current Skypiea arc wouldn't finish airing until sometime in October. Given that, the excuse that Funimation needs more time to dub episodes really doesn't pan out.

[Eldritch]

The ratings of OP in America haven't been exactly what you would say great, and DBZ deserves to be taken off. I mean I remember watching that and finishing it in 1st grade, which was 8 years ago. And it still airs now srsly. Idk I just don't like too much anime in CN.

What never gets old are the american cartoons. I am dissapointed how CN replaced so many of the classics i.e Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Batman, Superman, and even thunder cats etc with so many crap cartoons. And I never got WHATTHEFUCK happened to cartoon cartoon fridays.. I don't want some fat people hosting crap, I want the real thing lol. Occasionally you get some good ones like KND, and Billy/Mandy, Tom N Jerry but otherwise most are crap. I tried to watch imaginary friends or w/e and ben 10. Was so boring I played brick on my ipod instead.

As for pokemon and yugioh, I always remembered it to be on KidsWB, along with kirby and sonic.

[helpmenow316]

well maybe they doing this for they can restart one piece as a whole... With the DVD coming out in a few weeks or months... It would be smart for them to reair them with the new dubs....

[The Sentry]

I was gonna make a thread like this. Im dissapointed but im loking forward to Blue Dragon

[Masaki]

Agreed, agreed and agreed some more. All of the live action nonsense on Cartoon Network needs to go because last I checked, CARTOON Network was supposed to be for CARTOONS. Che. :notrust

I still remember their motto when I was growing up: "All cartoons, all the time."

I'm not much into horror literature either, but even when I was in elementary school I hated the Goosebumps books. I tried to read them but they were so horrendously written that I just couldn't stand them.

well I'd want them to still have an anime block but I'd love to see them bring back some of the old shows too. Though I doubt they could bring back what I'd want to see. You know stuff like old school TMNT and heck they should put muppet babies in place of that baby looney tunes shit. Heck they should even put swat kats and stuff on CN instead of putting it on Boomerang.

Oh those shows were amazing. Not to mention old school Sonic, as well. And the mystery cartoon block they used to have on some weekend night with shows like Scooby Doo and Hong Kong Phoey (or is it Foey, Fuey... etc?).

The ratings of OP in America haven't been exactly what you would say great, and DBZ deserves to be taken off. I mean I remember watching that and finishing it in 1st grade, which was 8 years ago. And it still airs now srsly. Idk I just don't like too much anime in CN.

What never gets old are the american cartoons. I am dissapointed how CN replaced so many of the classics i.e Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Batman, Superman, and even thunder cats etc with so many crap cartoons. And I never got WHATTHEFUCK happened to cartoon cartoon fridays.. I don't want some fat people hosting crap, I want the real thing lol. Occasionally you get some good ones like KND, and Billy/Mandy, Tom N Jerry but otherwise most are crap. I tried to watch imaginary friends or w/e and ben 10. Was so boring I played brick on my ipod instead.

As for pokemon and yugioh, I always remembered it to be on KidsWB, along with kirby and sonic.

THUNDERCATS :scry

I actually don't see what the problem with Ben 10 is that everyone has. His powers are pretty cool, I like the show's concept, and future Ben was badass when he fought in human form. Really, my only gripes with the show are the corny lines, the vagueness of "Alien DNA" when talking about the Omnitrix (especially since humans are technically aliens to the creator), and the brief cameo of Team Konohamaru. Really, I find it to be among the very few new good cartoons (most of which I'm about to name may be off the air by now anyway...) along with Billy and Mandy, KND, Avatar (which I should get to watching), Xiaolin Showdown, Batman Beyond, and Teen Titans (did we ever find out who Slade really is?). Though, I will say that compared to these other shows, it is on the bottom half (beating only the current KND, not the KND before it got too serious business).

But, really. Fosters = shit, Squirrel Boy = shit, My Gym Partner's a Monkey = flaming pile of shit. Johnny Test's commercial makes the concept of a talking dog sound new... you know, after the existence of Scooby, Astro, Courage, those dogs from Samurai Jack, Brian, etc.

[Dimezanime20]

HOLY SHIT! They really took it off and replaced it with that Yugi-oh ripoff show! WTF?!!?

[Emery]

God Dammit! Fuck you, Cartoon Network. You give me Naruto Fillers, an episode of DBZ I've seen 50 times, and you TAKE OFF ONE PIECE FOR THIS GOD DAMN YU-GI-OH RIPOFF?!?!

Put that shit on Miguzi. >|

[Masaki]

Well.

Toonami officially sucks now.

[Eldritch]

THUNDERCATS :scry

I actually don't see what the problem with Ben 10 is that everyone has. His powers are pretty cool, I like the show's concept, and future Ben was badass when he fought in human form. Really, my only gripes with the show are the corny lines, the vagueness of "Alien DNA" when talking about the Omnitrix (especially since humans are technically aliens to the creator), and the brief cameo of Team Konohamaru. Really, I find it to be among the very few new good cartoons (most of which I'm about to name may be off the air by now anyway...) along with Billy and Mandy, KND, Avatar (which I should get to watching), Xiaolin Showdown, Batman Beyond, and Teen Titans (did we ever find out who Slade really is?). Though, I will say that compared to these other shows, it is on the bottom half (beating only the current KND, not the KND before it got too serious business).

But, really. Fosters = shit, Squirrel Boy = shit, My Gym Partner's a Monkey = flaming pile of shit. Johnny Test's commercial makes the concept of a talking dog sound new... you know, after the existence of Scooby, Astro, Courage, those dogs from Samurai Jack, Brian, etc.

Meh, maybe I should give Ben 10 another chance then. I always close the TV when it's on. Ohh I forgot teen titans and justice league. Those were fine. :tem Another one I remember was awesome was static shock and Danny Phantom. (not sure if CN aired this or some other one)

And if I'm not mistaken isn't avatar from Nick, and Xiaolin Shadow/Batman Beyond from kidsWB? Or does CN have a little of that too?

[Masaki]

Meh, maybe I should give Ben 10 another chance then. I always close the TV when it's on. Ohh I forgot teen titans and justice league. Those were fine. :tem Another one I remember was awesome was static shock and Danny Phantom. (not sure if CN aired this or some other one)

And if I'm not mistaken isn't avatar from Nick, and Xiaolin Shadow/Batman Beyond from kidsWB? Or does CN have a little of that too?

Well, it's just my opinion. I'll say the opening is shit (good song, good singer, terrible lyrics). But, I personally like it and can say it's definitely a legitimate show. Maybe my standards have been lowered by crappy shows out there, but I don't think so.

Avatar is from Nick, yes. Yeah, they came from there. Both eventually found their way to CN for a while.

[Dimezanime20]

Danny Phantom is Nick and Xiaolin Showdown/Batman Beyond were originally on KidsWB. I'm not completely sure if Cartoon Network aired Batman Beyond.

[Masaki]

I'm pretty sure they did, though not for a long time.

[Mullet_Power]

The ratings of OP in America haven't been exactly what you would say great, and DBZ deserves to be taken off. I mean I remember watching that and finishing it in 1st grade, which was 8 years ago.

Holly shit I am getting old...


I'd really like to see some of the cartoons that I grew up with come back on the air, like Transformers, GI Joe, The Real Ghostbusters or even Johnny Quest instead of a bunch of shitty house stuff or anime imports.

I would cum....everywhere....and get cable to watch it...

The only American cartoon I follow is Avatar: The Last Airbender, it is seriously the best show. I like it better then One Piece O_O. Of course I don't have television so I don't see any new shows.


EDIT: Holy Crap, I just remembered.

How about we put some Reboot back in the schedule? XD
I loved that show!

*cough* (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=22558) Supposedly a new series is in the works.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

They aired Batman Beyond briefly. Forgot how far into it they got before stopping. As someone who's a huge fan of Yugiou(fuck the dub, though. Goddamn 4Kids...), I really hate how many rip-offs its' success has spawned because for some god-forsaken reason, TV execs think we like being force-fed the same steaming pile of dogshit over and over again.

I'll never understand why CN felt the need to kiddify almost their entire schedule as it was perfectly fine the way it was before they seemingly banished anything aimed at a higher age group than 10 from airing on weekdays after 7 pm. What's so wrong with airing any of the decent action series they have in their library that's been doing nothing but collecting dust or airing on Boomerang for some stupid reason? Samurai Jack, Justice League, X-Men: Evolution, Batman Beyond(I guess since Toon Disney airs both Batman:TAS and Superman:TAS, they don't have the rights to them anymore), Naruto, One Piece, etc., etc. They have enough that they could alternate from day-to-day and never run out of stuff for a 2-hour block like they used to run before Foster's and all the rest of the crap they put out now started stinking up the joint. What's even better is that it'd be cheap(hell, they could probably spring some cash for that LoSH series that CW is running now. I watched some of it and it wasn't too bad).

[jinjue]

What never gets old are the american cartoons.
Agreed. I would love to see the cartoons of my youth being re-aired on television now. Unfortunately, unless I pick up Boomerang it will likely never, ever happen. Even if I did get Boomerang, it would only touch upon a fraction of the stuff I grew up with.

well maybe they doing this for they can restart one piece as a whole... With the DVD coming out in a few weeks or months... It would be smart for them to reair them with the new dubs....
That would require Funimation to do two dubs for the episodes up through Rainbow Mist: the actual dub for the DVD release and a television safe dub. Because of that, I doubt that the Funimation dubs for the earlier episodes will ever come to replace the shitty 4Kids' ones on television. It would be nice, that should go without saying, but in all I think it's rather unlikely. Besides, at this point it's hard to say if One Piece will ever properly return to Cartoon Network any time soon at all.

I still remember their motto when I was growing up: "All cartoons, all the time."
Yeah, but that was back before Cartoon Network started to suck the fat one. Alas, what had once been one of my favourite television stations turned into something that I can barely stand to watch 99.9% of the time.

And the mystery cartoon block they used to have on some weekend night with shows like Scooby Doo and Hong Kong Phoey (or is it Foey, Fuey... etc?).
Hong Kong Phooey, number one super guy
Hong Kong Phooey, quicker than the human eye
oh he's got style, a groovy smile and a bite that just won't stop
when the going gets rough, he's super tough
with the Hong Kong Phooey chop!

Ahh, memories. :amuse

[...] Teen Titans (did we ever find out who Slade really is?)
Slade is a DC comic book character with deep ties with the Teen Titans. So if you follow the original books you'd know who he is; I dunno if it's a spoiler in the show, though, so I'll leave it at that. But what I'm more confused by is who is Robin supposed to be? The roster of the team in the show and the dropped hints suggest Dick Grayson, but his looks, attitude, style, combat abilities and just about everything else about the character suggest Tim Drake. That confuses me.

As for Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, I don't mind it. It's not the best, but I can watch it and there have been a few episodes that I found genuinely clever. To be honest, but, I'm personally not all that fond of most of Cartoon Network's house shows outside of Adult Swim, nor do I care for most of their anime imports. I don't see a necessity for either as well; there are tons of classic American cartoons from the last thirty-plus years to fill up Cartoon Network's programming slots, classic American cartoons that used to actually be on Cartoon Network until getting dropped and replaced with all of the current junk that's on.

Holly shit I am getting old...
I feel your pain as well. Sometimes I just feel so old. :cry

[Canute87]

Thank god for the internet.
I stopped watching cartoon network for about a year now.

[Masaki]

They aired Batman Beyond briefly. Forgot how far into it they got before stopping. As someone who's a huge fan of Yugiou(fuck the dub, though. Goddamn 4Kids...)

As I read this, I have the last Yugioh opening stuck in my head.

I really hate how many rip-offs its' success has spawned because for some god-forsaken reason, TV execs think we like being force-fed the same steaming pile of dogshit over and over again.

Duel Masters: Sounds like Duel Monsters and plays like Magic. Coincidence? I think not.

I'll never understand why CN felt the need to kiddify almost their entire schedule as it was perfectly fine the way it was before they seemingly banished anything aimed at a higher age group than 10 from airing on weekdays after 7 pm.

Try 5.

What's so wrong with airing any of the decent action series they have in their library that's been doing nothing but collecting dust or airing on Boomerang for some stupid reason? Samurai Jack, Justice League, X-Men: Evolution, Batman Beyond(I guess since Toon Disney airs both Batman:TAS and Superman:TAS, they don't have the rights to them anymore), Naruto, One Piece, etc., etc.

Maybe they figure we'd rather download anime?

If so, they're not wrong, really.

They have enough that they could alternate from day-to-day and never run out of stuff for a 2-hour block like they used to run before Foster's and all the rest of the crap they put out now started stinking up the joint. What's even better is that it'd be cheap(hell, they could probably spring some cash for that LoSH series that CW is running now. I watched some of it and it wasn't too bad).

Fosters. The single show that started the phase of shit. :pek

[Mullet_Power]

I feel your pain as well. Sometimes I just feel so old. :cry

Yeah considering that when I watched dbz in highschool it was like 8 years ago makes me sad :scry.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

As I read this, I have the last Yugioh opening stuck in my head.
Overlap is made of so much win. Too bad the vid for it didn't do it any justice at all.

Duel Masters: Sounds like Duel Monsters and plays like Magic. Coincidence? I think not.
What's funny is that Duel Masters was dubbed as a spoof on Yugiou. I forgot if that was the actual intention of the original Japanese or not. What I found disturbing was that girl with the purple hair and the huge chest considering that she's only 11. :wha


Try 5.
Hah.


Maybe they figure we'd rather download anime?

If so, they're not wrong, really.
God knows I'd rather watch a freshly downloaded episode of Gundam 00 than shit like My Gym Partner is a Monkey. I swear, you could watch that garbage for 5 minutes and literally *feel* your brain turning into goo from it's sheer crapiness.

:facepalm


Fosters. The single show that started the phase of shit. :pek
I maintain that the worst thing to ever happen for Cartoon Network was for Spongebob Squarepants to become as popular as it did because all TV is nowadays is "monkey see, monkey do"-type shit because of the supposed "need" to keep up with the competition.

[Masaki]

I maintain that the worst thing to ever happen for Cartoon Network was for Spongebob Squarepants to become as popular as it did because all TV is nowadays is "monkey see, monkey do"-type shit because of the supposed "need" to keep up with the competition.

Spongebob started the transition to shittiness. Foster's completed it.

[Ha-ri]

Well.

Toonami officially sucks now.

Man.. I remember back in the day when Toonami was on during the weekdays and at night, with actual good anime. I mean Back when it was Sailor Moon, Gundam, Big O, Thundercats, etc.... I mean once you realize that Toonami is long gone, you don't expect any less. One Piece was the last good thing of it, granted the dubs sucks anyways its still better than all the other crap that is on CN nowadays(NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, CAMP LAZLO IS AWESOME!).

[Masaki]

Man.. I remember back in the day when Toonami was on during the weekdays and at night, with actual good anime. I mean Back when it was Sailor Moon, Gundam, Big O, Thundercats, etc.... I mean once you realize that Toonami is long gone, you don't expect any less. One Piece was the last good thing of it, granted the dubs sucks anyways its still better than all the other crap that is on CN nowadays(NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, CAMP LAZLO IS AWESOME!).

The Sailor Moon dubs sucked.

But Thundercats... yes. And good ol' Hamtaro and Zoids.

Camp Lazlo is terrible. :pek

[Ha-ri]

Camp Lazlo is terrible. :pek

Where is the burry to hell and back button dammit :argh

[Amatsu]

ugh I can't believe what I'm seeing over on gamefaqs.

You know I find it funny that the NaruTards are claiming that we're not allowed to bitch that One Piece was replaced because if Bakugan replaced Naruto they'd be raising a huge fucking shitstorm about it like they did when the black screen incident happened.

Not to mention they think Bakugan is a GREAT show and WAY BETTER than One Piece. I mean seriously just WTF man? But I guess that's just how the mind of a NaruTard works. If it doesn't ruin their precious Naruto cock sucking hour then they don't care about what happens to anyone else's favorite series.

Just another reason why I hate Naruto fans...

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

Where is the burry to hell and back button dammit :argh

The only thing tolerable about Camp Lazlo is hearing Rocko's voice again.


Other then that.....its shit.

ugh I can't believe what I'm seeing over on gamefaqs.

You know I find it funny that the NaruTards are claiming that we're not allowed to bitch that One Piece was replaced because if Bakugan replaced Naruto they'd be raising a huge fucking shitstorm about it like they did when the black screen incident happened.

Not to mention they think Bakugan is a GREAT show and WAY BETTER than One Piece. I mean seriously just WTF man? But I guess that's just how the mind of a NaruTard works. If it doesn't ruin their precious Naruto cock sucking hour then they don't care about what happens to anyone else's favorite series.

Just another reason why I hate Naruto fans...
Meh, Gamefaqs has always had retarded people at the forums as long as i can remember. I'm pretty sure the narutards there never saw the original japanese version of One Piece. It makes sense if all they've seen is the dub.

[tanukibeast]

I hate you Cartoon Network.
You had to ruin One Piece just after it had just started to recover from 4kids.

[Masaki]

ugh I can't believe what I'm seeing over on gamefaqs.

You know I find it funny that the NaruTards are claiming that we're not allowed to bitch that One Piece was replaced because if Bakugan replaced Naruto they'd be raising a huge fucking shitstorm about it like they did when the black screen incident happened.

Not to mention they think Bakugan is a GREAT show and WAY BETTER than One Piece. I mean seriously just WTF man? But I guess that's just how the mind of a NaruTard works. If it doesn't ruin their precious Naruto cock sucking hour then they don't care about what happens to anyone else's favorite series.

Just another reason why I hate Naruto fans...

The gamefaq forumgoers are generally idiots.

[The Sentry]

Bakugan is the new Yugiyo...kids in america these days like shit shows.
Chowder>>>>>>>>>Camp Lazlo, Fosters and any other shit on CN these days

[Masaki]

Oh yeah, almost forgot about Chowder.

I think that's the show that fully convinced me that CN isn't going anywhere.

[The Sentry]

^^its pretty funny. His fat ass makes me laff...but the rest of the characters suck.
Anyways remember when our parents told us that the shows we watch on TV are junk? Well cos we have matured we probly think that the new shows are shit...but if we were younger we might have liked em......expecially CAMP LAZLO :LOS

[helpmenow316]

lol True but i allways had the same stander of cartoon.. I never liked shows like eek the cat and stuff like that..So i doubt that i would of liked chowder or those other shows when i was a kid.....

[Amatsu]

The gamefaq forumgoers are generally idiots.

Yeah that's true. I guess I got a little too hot headed over a group of people who don'thave any taste.

[Linkdarkside]

well it kinda sad that it getting replaced by bakugan i mean game/toys anime are shit

im kinda looking forward to blue dragon

and they need to took out GooseShit and put Zatch Bell and MAR back

[Jetstorm]

Seeing that shitty show Bakugan in OP's slot made me extremely sad. :(

At least put Gash Bell, Mar, or Prince of Tennis back on instead of that Bakugan bull shit. :arg

[Dr. Hiluruk]

i can't even take he gamefaqs forumgoers seriously.

only ONE place is as bad, and that is bungie.net, and the halo "pros" that post there. ridiculous.

anyways. it'll prolly be back by fall. wouldn't we hear from someone if it was simply cancelled?

[Shirker]

That's to damn long! :arg

BTW, Hiluruk, has the uncut DVD for OP come out yet?, I haven't really been following lately

[Triggerhappy69]

BTW, Hiluruk, has the uncut DVD for OP come out yet?, I haven't really been following lately

That doesn't come out until May 27th.

Anyways, extremely pissed off that One Piece is off Toonami and we don't know the exact reason why. If someone could confirm why, it'd be greatly appreciated, as I'm pretty sure my rage would simmer down some.

[Eldritch]

The Sailor Moon dubs sucked.

But Thundercats... yes. And good ol' Hamtaro and Zoids.

Camp Lazlo is terrible. :pek

omfg zoids was the shit when I was in 2nd grade. Even though I couldn't understand wtf they're saying except GO LIGER it was my favorite show lol.

[Shirker]

Oh yeah, almost forgot about Chowder.

I think that's the show that fully convinced me that CN isn't going anywhere.

I disagree, I think Chowder's one of the funniest shows to come out of CN for a long time. It reminds me alot of Cow & Chicken.

[Eldritch]

Oh yeah Ed Edd n Eddy is also good. Some funny ass shit lol. I'm suprised it's still on though, cause I remembered it to be on when PPG and DL was on too.

[Linkdarkside]

well i hope they put again one piece once funi dub a couple of episodes more but if that the case the are slow at dubin

[Mullet_Power]

Anyways remember when our parents told us that the shows we watch on TV are junk? Well cos we have matured we probly think that the new shows are shit...but if we were younger we might have liked em......

If that was true I wouldn't spend so much money on Transformers still.

[manifest one piece]

^ True Mullet but Transformers is a classic you can't compare it to anything on CN

[Amatsu]

Well new Heman > old Heman

and well I wish they'd bring back the real ghostbusters cartoon. That was awesome.

[saiya-jin]

I was looking it up on a Television schedule website, and it says that Blue Dragon is airing on the 28th(Friday) at 11:00(or 11:30) at night. Also, I think my TV Guide has Dragonball Z scheduled Saturday at 10:30 again(But, it just says "Dragon" so I can't be sure)

[Canute87]

I really hope that they stop showing one piece.
Because it is getting harder to find subbed episodes online. If One piece stops showing on american television this is a good thing.

[Mitsarugii]

It should be coming back. From what I have heard they're airing Bakugan until they're finished dubbing the Skypiea Arc, and Bakugan has another time-slot. And Bakugan is only two seasons long, so even if they aired all the episodes it wouldn't take long to finish them. Most people think it'll start back in June-July, after the release of the Uncut Box Set. Plus Funimation is putting way too much time on One Piece just to trash it.

I hope it comes back, I absolutely HATE subs, and japanese voices give me a headache.

[Newbologist]

It should be coming back. From what I have heard they're airing Bakugan until they're finished dubbing the Skypiea Arc, and Bakugan has another time-slot. And Bakugan is only two seasons long, so even if they aired all the episodes it wouldn't take long to finish them. Most people think it'll start back in June-July, after the release of the Uncut Box Set. Plus Funimation is putting way too much time on One Piece just to trash it.

I hope it comes back, I absolutely HATE subs, and japanese voices give me a headache.

even though funi has done a good job with the dubs i still prefer the sub most of the voices sound more realistic in japanese, maybe thats just because i watched most of one piece subbed and then when the dub came out i never watched it.

[Superrazien]

It should be coming back. From what I have heard they're airing Bakugan until they're finished dubbing the Skypiea Arc, and Bakugan has another time-slot. And Bakugan is only two seasons long, so even if they aired all the episodes it wouldn't take long to finish them. Most people think it'll start back in June-July, after the release of the Uncut Box Set. Plus Funimation is putting way too much time on One Piece just to trash it.

I hope it comes back, I absolutely HATE subs, and japanese voices give me a headache.

They were already done with Choppers fight in December, if anything by now they would be dubbing Davy back or even starting Water 7.

[Mitsarugii]

They were already done with Choppers fight in December, if anything by now they would be dubbing Davy back or even starting Water 7.

You're right, I said the wrong Arc, sorry about that.

But I'm hoping when they start airing it again, they air the older episodes (the first few seasons) on weekdays, and show the Skypiea Arc on weekends. so we don't get even farther behind.

[jinjue]

Well new Heman > old Heman
Aww, but I like old He-Man! It was so delightfully cheesy. And gay. Really, really gay. The new, new He-Man was cool, though, I agree. Cooler than the kinda new He-Man that barely anyone remembers, at any rate.

and well I wish they'd bring back the real ghostbusters cartoon. That was awesome.
I want it on DVD. The Ghostbusters 2 DVD came with an episode or two, and it reminded me how much I loved it.

I really hope that they stop showing one piece.
Because it is getting harder to find subbed episodes online. If One piece stops showing on american television this is a good thing.
Wow, way to not see the bigger picture here. As cruel as it may sound to some, it's people like you who are killing the industry in the US, which has a negative effect on the industry in Japan. It's bad enough practically admitting that you don't give a shit about the legal domestic releases when we finally get one worth investing in, but in wanting to damn the new dub for everyone else you clearly prove that you don't care about anything but your own selfishness. Poo on you, says I.

Also, you can still get the old fansubbed episodes online if you know where to look. They haven't been any harder to find just because Funimation picked up the license.

But I'm hoping when they start airing it again, they air the older episodes (the first few seasons) on weekdays, and show the Skypiea Arc on weekends. so we don't get even farther behind.
I'd rather they not air the older episodes because those would be the 4Kids dub and that dub made my ears bleed. It'd be mega super awesome if they'd find a way to put Funimation's new early season dubs on, but that would probably be too much work so I'd never expect it and I'd perfectly understand if it never happens. What I would like, however, is if/when One Piece returns, they air a marathon to help us get caught up and further along. Otherwise, we might not see the end of Skypiea until next year.

[Masaki]

Oh yeah Ed Edd n Eddy is also good. Some funny ass shit lol. I'm suprised it's still on though, cause I remembered it to be on when PPG and DL was on too.

Ed Edd n Eddy went downhill when they went back to school, though.

Well new Heman > old Heman

and well I wish they'd bring back the real ghostbusters cartoon. That was awesome.

I used to wake up every Saturday at 7 am to watch Ghostbusters.

Oh no they got rid of our precious One Piece dub, buhuhu.

Seriously, who cares.

I need to spread rep. Someone unban this guy long enough for me to neg him.


Wow, way to not see the bigger picture here. As cruel as it may sound to some, it's people like you who are killing the industry in the US, which has a negative effect on the industry in Japan. It's bad enough practically admitting that you don't give a shit about the legal domestic releases when we finally get one worth investing in, but in wanting to damn the new dub for everyone else you clearly prove that you don't care about anything but your own selfishness. Poo on you, says I.

Also, you can still get the old fansubbed episodes online if you know where to look. They haven't been any harder to find just because Funimation picked up the license.

True story. The subbed episodes haven't gone anywhere. Though, I do want to know: what is the status with K-F these days?


I'd rather they not air the older episodes because those would be the 4Kids dub and that dub made my ears bleed. It'd be mega super awesome if they'd find a way to put Funimation's new early season dubs on, but that would probably be too much work so I'd never expect it and I'd perfectly understand if it never happens. What I would like, however, is if/when One Piece returns, they air a marathon to help us get caught up and further along. Otherwise, we might not see the end of Skypiea until next year.

Well, if they redub it'll be all good.

[Rock Lee]

They get rid of zatch bell now this shit.I've lost faith in cartoon network.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

K-F just put out 238 last week.

[Amatsu]

Aww, but I like old He-Man! It was so delightfully cheesy. And gay. Really, really gay. The new, new He-Man was cool, though, I agree. Cooler than the kinda new He-Man that barely anyone remembers, at any rate.


I want it on DVD. The Ghostbusters 2 DVD came with an episode or two, and it reminded me how much I loved it.

True... it was pretty flamboyantly gay, but I just liked the better animation and the fact the voice work was pretty great as well.

Ah I haven't seen the ghostbusters cartoon since it was on TV...

Ah the days of my youth... like the scent of fresh lemons.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

I remember the old He-Man having some of the most man-ish looking women I'd ever seen up to that point in my life(except for the lady that stayed in Grayskull). Even She-Ra/whatever her real name was looked like she was a really skinny guy with boobs dressing like a girl. Freakin' creepy.

Heh, Ghostbusters... I still have the episode where Egon gets turned into a were-chicken on tape somewhere. Funny as hell.

[jinjue]

Well, if they redub it'll be all good.
But what's the likelihood of that happening? I imagine that Funimation is working as hard as they can just to dub the earlier seasons up to Skypiea for the DVD release, as well as past that for both the DVD and the potential television releases. Doing more than double the amount of work to create a television safe version of the earlier episodes is something that I honestly don't see them doing any time soon, as much as I would love for it to happen.

I remember the old He-Man having some of the most man-ish looking women I'd ever seen up to that point in my life(except for the lady that stayed in Grayskull). Even She-Ra/whatever her real name was looked like she was a really skinny guy with boobs dressing like a girl. Freakin' creepy.
I'm forced to agree; everyone in the old He-Man cartoons was super ripped and muscular, even the chicks. Other than Sorceress, the women were all pretty buff and crazily built almost as thickly as the men. The same goes for Blackstar and Thundercats.

Heh, Ghostbusters... I still have the episode where Egon gets turned into a were-chicken on tape somewhere. Funny as hell.
I so totally remember that episode! Wasn't there a crazy huge monster chicken rampaging round New York City like some kind of demented Toho-esque kaijuu in it? I'm pretty sure there was. Ahh, good times. :amuse

[Masaki]

I'm forced to agree; everyone in the old He-Man cartoons was super ripped and muscular, even the chicks. Other than Sorceress, the women were all pretty buff and crazily built almost as thickly as the men. The same goes for Blackstar and Thundercats.

Oh god, and do you remember the voice acting for the females?

[Tokoyami]

Wow this coming from a dub hater but.

What the fuck is there deal? After part one naruto begins to suck ass way to kill whatever hope one piece had of becoming big in america you braindead fuckwits.

[saiya-jin]

Oh no they got rid of our precious One Piece dub, buhuhu.

Seriously, who cares.

I think he mispelled "Boo-hoo-hoo" :LOS

But seriously

Earlier, when the website I posted said Blue Dragon aired on the 28th, my TV schedule now says it airs on the 29th.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

I'm forced to agree; everyone in the old He-Man cartoons was super ripped and muscular, even the chicks. Other than Sorceress, the women were all pretty buff and crazily built almost as thickly as the men. The same goes for Blackstar and Thundercats.
It's like they took the facial templates for Adam and changed the hair and altered the eyes a bit without changing the jawline. :cry

I so totally remember that episode! Wasn't there a crazy huge monster chicken rampaging round New York City like some kind of demented Toho-esque kaijuu in it? I'm pretty sure there was. Ahh, good times. :amuse
Indeed it is. I even found a couple more episodes on the tape(the one where their old suits became possesed and the one about that toy factory) along with the Pirates of Dark Water episode where what's-her-name gets those freaky plant powers. :LOS

[Xion]

As long as it's subbed, I am A-okay! :thumbs

[Mullet_Power]

I just hope that this doesn't hurt DVD sales to much. I want to show my love to the One Piece series and if Funi were to drop it I would have to start importing T_T

[lo0p]

You think there are enough One Piece dub fans to get a petition going that would actually matter like they did with Family Guy and Futurama?

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

I just watch the subs anyways. I never could figure out what time the dub episodes came on. And i already sat and saw all of skypiea. So i'm fine just watching episodes i missed subbed. I can just click on them and watch while dubs take forever to air episodes.

[Dead Bones Musician]

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=22565

[Franky]

This always happens. Toonami removes all my fabverite shows; they removed Gash Bell ONE FUCKING EPISODE before a badass fight. CN needs to stop fucking around, cause eventually someones going to get killed because of all this shit.

One Piece, as others have already said, was already hanging by a thin thread because of the slaughter 4kids put it through. I meen, so what if Naruto is high rated? That's because kids these days don't give a fuck for the good anime; if only they would give the Funimation dub a chance, I actually watched because I could while eating dinner after playing in card tournements.

I also have friends who have older computers to the extent that they actually can't watch the subbed episode; they can't even read the manga, and this just ruins the whole world of anime for them. CN has doomed all of it's viewers to a hellish eternity in an endless pit of gay Naruto fillers! Their not trying to up their rating on that show, I think their to idiotic to even consider that, their just kicking 2 of their best shows and filling their slots with much crappier shows.

The Skypia arc, in my opinion, is actually quite interesting; stopping it right in the middle of that arc will dissapoint a whole lot of people. The only reason One Piece has lower ratings is because of 2 reasons: first and worst, 4kids, and second, that stopped it right the middle of a great arc.

All-in-all, CN is just going to cut it's audience in half, just for the sake of gay-ass ninjas running around in tights raping each other. They do realize that by showing Gai they are encouraging boys to dress alike and rape each other at night; and then give them selves buzz cuts?

To sum it all up, CN just fucked them selves about 5,000,000 times over.

[Amatsu]

Yeah and now they replaced Bakugan with Samurai fucking Jack. Seriously what do people see in that show? It's just a bunch of stupid background shotts and maybe 3 minutes of Jack making exaggerated poses as he slices up a couple robots. It's a damn stupid show in my opinion. I mean heck even Megas was better than that shit sorry to say.

But then again I'd rather have One Piece back to be honest... I can't believe CN is being this stupid.

[Franky]

Yeah and now they replaced Bakugan with Samurai fucking Jack. Seriously what do people see in that show? It's just a bunch of stupid background shotts and maybe 3 minutes of Jack making exaggerated poses as he slices up a couple robots. It's a damn stupid show in my opinion. I mean heck even Megas was better than that shit sorry to say.

But then again I'd rather have One Piece back to be honest... I can't believe CN is being this stupid.

Exactly; CN is full of bullshit!

[Masaki]

This always happens. Toonami removes all my fabverite shows; they removed Gash Bell ONE FUCKING EPISODE before a badass fight. CN needs to stop fucking around, cause eventually someones going to get killed because of all this shit.

Remember Yuyu Hakusho?

Remember when they ended it?

The FUCKIN EPISODE BEFORE (or two before, not sure which) THE BIGGEST PLOT TWIST IN THE ENTIRE FUCKIN SERIES.

And I don't even understand why. I mean, it's an epic series in which I'll say the voice acting and opening were possibly on par or even better than the original version (Yusuke's JPN voice annoyed the shit out of me). Also take note that Yuyu and Inuyasha started up on CN at about the same time. Yuyu was cut from Adult Swim and then the censoring started. Afterwards, it was taken from CN all together while Inuyasha remained up there for the longest time.

Yeah and now they replaced Bakugan with Samurai fucking Jack. Seriously what do people see in that show? It's just a bunch of stupid background shotts and maybe 3 minutes of Jack making exaggerated poses as he slices up a couple robots. It's a damn stupid show in my opinion. I mean heck even Megas was better than that shit sorry to say.

But then again I'd rather have One Piece back to be honest... I can't believe CN is being this stupid.

Finally, someone else who thinks Samurai Jack was shit. I loved the pilot episode, sure, but it just went downhill from there with exception of the Scottsman, who didn't appear enough to save the show.

But Megas was one of the best shows on Toonami. It was hilarious.

[Spike31589]

F**k me sideways, diagonally, and every other way. why did they do this before the zoro ohm fight i now hate CN almost as much as nick for what they have done to avatar

and megas was an excellent show and anyone who dissagrees lacks a soul

[BlueNinja44]

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=22565

Well, here's your answer folks!

Edit: CaptainAWB beat me too it...

[Dead Bones Musician]

I posted that earlier today, silly.

[Triggerhappy69]

This is indeed very sad news. However, there's one part of the article that I'm not quite sure I get:

The representative stated that all their new episodes of One Piece have been aired already, and the series will not be repeated.

The part that confuses me is the whole "All their new episodes have already aired" thing. Does this mean that FUNI stopped working on Skypiea and is now concentrating on all the episodes that 4Kids did?

[Mitsarugii]

I'm glad Samurai Jack is going to be on CN, even if it isn't permanent.

I highly doubt One Piece is canceled for good. it's not officially from CN. I think they're most likely dubbing all the old episodes 4Kids ruined, because they said they were dubbing all the episodes beginning to end.

[Jetstorm]

Cartoon Network has betrayed us. :-(

[lo0p]

Don't know much about Toon Zone, can it be trusted? The article sounds really obscure and I tried finding more info on it in the discussion forums but it was mostly about comforting some guy who's really bummed out about OP being canceled.

I did, however, notice some posts about how some Funi rep at a recent Boston anime convention stated that OP will be returning to cn but the posts were as obscure as the article. Anyone have more info on either story?

[Superrazien]

Lets hope this is Toons Zones Idea of a April Fools Joke.

Though I wouldn't doubt if its true. I don't understand why cartoon network would get rid of it, I mean honestly Naruto fillers are a good 3-4 weeks in by now. They already lost all the fans who watch Naruto online which is a lot ( most of those people wont be returning for Shippuuden) and I am sure the kiddies are board of Naruto by now, then we have old DBZ Re-Runs.

Could All new Episodes of One Piece really rated so much lower than both of those that it needed to be canceled?

[Soupnazi]

I think they need to restart One Piece, get rid of 4crap. Start it out with a marathon and then give it 2 or more new episodes a week. And have a major advertising campaign for it, then One Piece would be cured.

But we can only dream.

[Drunkenwhale]

Gotta love Cartoon Network... They just love fucking around with their schedule every few weeks.

I swear I want my One Piece back. I've seen a few episodes of Blue Dragon spanish sub, it sucked. As for Samurai Jack, I was hoping it'd be on adult swim, not toonami. Yunno, to replace one of their more crappy shows...

I think they need to restart One Piece, get rid of 4crap. Start it out with a marathon and then give it 2 or more new episodes a week. And have a major advertising campaign for it, then One Piece would be cured.

But we can only dream.

Oh yes, whore it out in a marathon... Give it the Naruto approach.

Kidding. That would work, very very very well. Then with One Piece on top, We get the manga treatment! I want volumes beyond the anime before CN took it off.

[Emery]

I agree. Blue Dragon was awful.


Toonami officially sucks fucking hard now. They took off the only thing worth watching (Well, DBZ is always worth a watch, but damn, I've seen it 800 times.)

Not to mention, Adult Swim pushed back Death Note and Bleach later than they should be.

Fucking l-a-m-e.

[ryne11]

Mother fuckers.......

Fuck Toonami
I hope Funimation comments or finds an alternative to air it

[BlueNinja44]

One of the guys at apforums was at a convention where Funimation was located just last night. This is what he had to say...

http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=846702&postcount=107

Long story short. No news on CN's handling with One Piece, Funimation still wants to continue dubbing One Piece, and six to eight weeks between uncut DVD releases.

"And ... paha. There's nice news here, though say goodbye to AL's pocket money. It's six to eight weeks between DVD releases. Crack open those checkbooks so you can see more merchandise, and better movies than Movie 8."

If the above statement's true, and there's 13 episodes in one uncut boxset... Then we should expect about 91 episodes of uncut goodness in the course of a year.

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

If i can't watch it on TV then i'm watching it online and i better not hear any bitching from Funi.


though i'll definitely will be picking up the uncut DVDs.

[Supa Swag]

What the fuck? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!


Whatever. Thank God for March Madness.


Remember Yuyu Hakusho?

Remember when they ended it?

The FUCKIN EPISODE BEFORE (or two before, not sure which) THE BIGGEST PLOT TWIST IN THE ENTIRE FUCKIN SERIES.

And I don't even understand why. I mean, it's an epic series in which I'll say the voice acting and opening were possibly on par or even better than the original version (Yusuke's JPN voice annoyed the shit out of me). Also take note that Yuyu and Inuyasha started up on CN at about the same time. Yuyu was cut from Adult Swim and then the censoring started. Afterwards, it was taken from CN all together while Inuyasha remained up there for the longest time.


Oh no.


They never took Yu Yu Hakusho off.

On the contrary, they simply moved it from late night Saturdays to early Saturdays...and by early I mean 4 IN THE FUCKING MORNING EARLY!

I should know. I only found out by randomly looking at the TV guide. To my surprise YYH was not taken off, but merely moved to inhumane times. I then watched the majority of 3 Kings arc by waking up in 4 in the fucking morning, and then somehow going back to sleep after the episode ended.





But yeah, FUCK CN.

[Amatsu]

I still say CN sabotaged One Piece because the Funi dub was actually making One Piece popular and we all know that CN would hate anything becoming more popular than Naruto.

[Triggerhappy69]

Well, while it is a shame that CN isn't airing One Piece anymore, I am glad that FUNI still wants to dub it.

"And ... paha. There's nice news here, though say goodbye to AL's pocket money. It's six to eight weeks between DVD releases. Crack open those checkbooks so you can see more merchandise, and better movies than Movie 8."

Man, sure hope this is true. Maybe One Piece being off the air is kind of a blessing in disguise. Maybe they now have the time to focus on fixing up all the episodes 4Kids butchered. Either way, I'm really lookin forward to buying these DVD's and getting my mom into this series :grin

[Masaki]

Wasn't Funimation trying to get their own channel?


Oh no.


They never took Yu Yu Hakusho off.

On the contrary, they simply moved it from late night Saturdays to early Saturdays...and by early I mean 4 IN THE FUCKING MORNING EARLY!

I should know. I only found out by randomly looking at the TV guide. To my surprise YYH was not taken off, but merely moved to inhumane times. I then watched the majority of 3 Kings arc by waking up in 4 in the fucking morning, and then somehow going back to sleep after the episode ended.





But yeah, FUCK CN.

If it was moved to a time between 3 am and 6 am, I say it was officially cut from the schedule.

[Superrazien]

I still say CN sabotaged One Piece because the Funi dub was actually making One Piece popular and we all know that CN would hate anything becoming more popular than Naruto.

I don't know about that, I think they would welcome that. Naruto as popular as it is, then to have a show to beat it popularity. Those are two huge shows on CN as opposed to 1. No company would try and change that.

[Emery]

Ugh. Anyone got any ddls/torrents/streams for the dubbed Movie 8?

[lo0p]

$40 for about 13 episodes every 2 months. That's about $600 for all eps to the end of the Skypia arc. Damn this is gonna be expensive. And if you go the piracy route it'll REALLY hurt One Piece's chances of making it here since it's the kind of thing that needs all the support it can get. No choice I guess, gotta start saving up.

[Drunkenwhale]

Ugh. Anyone got any ddls/torrents/streams for the dubbed Movie 8?

Why would you want to download it when you can help the Dub by shelling out $21 at a Best Buy or Circuit City?


Funi does have it's own channel, but it's not viewable by standard cable... You have to have one of those deluxe packages...

Otherwise I would not be watching that instead of CN.

[Geg]

I still say CN sabotaged One Piece because the Funi dub was actually making One Piece popular and we all know that CN would hate anything becoming more popular than Naruto.

I seriously think you're one of the dumbest members on NF, and that's saying something

[King Dead]

I still say CN sabotaged One Piece because the Funi dub was actually making One Piece popular and we all know that CN would hate anything becoming more popular than Naruto.Yeah, Cartoon Network would sure hate having another really popular, marketable series

:zaru

[Emery]

Why would you want to download it when you can help the Dub by shelling out $21 at a Best Buy or Circuit City?


Because I'm not going to spend $21 on a movie that I'm only going to watch once.

[King Dead]

I wouldn't pay more than like 3 dollars for that awful alabasta movie

[Drunkenwhale]

Because I'm not going to spend $21 on a movie that I'm only going to watch once.

Then what's the point of watching the movie?

[Emery]

Then what's the point of watching the movie?

If that's not the stupidest question ever, then I don't know what is.

What's the point of watching ANY movie?

[Drunkenwhale]

If that's not the stupidest question ever, then I don't know what is.

What's the point of watching ANY movie?

You said it eariler,

Anyone got any ddls/torrents/streams for the dubbed Movie 8?

Since you say what's the point of watching ANY movie...

[Emery]

Apparently, you're unnable to differentiate BUYING and WATCHING. I will not BUY a movie for $21 that I will only WATCH once. How are you not getting this?

[Masaki]

Rent the movie. :zaru

[Emery]

Rent the movie. :zaru

Tried.

Blockbuster doesn't have it, and I'm not paying to sign up for any online rental bullshit. :zaru

[Masaki]

Well, now I just feel plain silly. :zaru

[Drunkenwhale]

Apparently, you're unnable to differentiate BUYING and WATCHING. I will not BUY a movie for $21 that I will only WATCH once. How are you not getting this?

There's always a price to happiness.

Yeah, I guess I am unable to differentiate the concepts of BUYING and WATCHING. You want to WATCH the movie, yet not PAY for it because you'll watch it ONCE and never see it again.

You want to download it, fine. Search torrents under google then search for it there.

As you said, what's the point of watching movies? You'll just waste time... Pretty much like our argument...


I hope the sales from the uncut DVDs make CN realize they lost a cash cow.

[Emery]

There's always a price to happiness.

Yeah, I guess I am unable to differentiate the concepts of BUYING and WATCHING. You want to WATCH the movie, yet not PAY for it because you'll watch it ONCE and never see it again.

You want to download it, fine. Search torrents under google then search for it there.

As you said, what's the point of watching movies? You'll just waste time... Pretty much like our argument...


I hope the sales from the uncut DVDs make CN realize they lost a cash cow.

Christ, you're a moron. You're putting words in my mouth. I was being sarcastic. It was a rhetorical question -- the obvious answer is: "Because you want to see it."

But, no... you're too dense to comprehend that.

I wouldn't have asked here if I didn't search high and low on torrent sites already. I'm not new to the internet, by any means. :zaru

[BlueNinja44]

Aside from that, the most important thing that we must do in order to have Funimation continue thier handling with One Piece is to buy the DVDs and support them. Plain and simple.

[The Big Mumbo]

I seriously think you're one of the dumbest members on NF, and that's saying something

Challenger emerges:

There's always a price to happiness.

Yeah, I guess I am unable to differentiate the concepts of BUYING and WATCHING. You want to WATCH the movie, yet not PAY for it because you'll watch it ONCE and never see it again.

You want to download it, fine. Search torrents under google then search for it there.

As you said, what's the point of watching movies? You'll just waste time... Pretty much like our argument...

[YoYo]

Christ, you're a moron. You're putting words in my mouth. I was being sarcastic. It was a rhetorical question -- the obvious answer is: "Because you want to see it."

But, no... you're too dense to comprehend that.

I wouldn't have asked here if I didn't search high and low on torrent sites already. I'm not new to the internet, by any means. :zaru

Jeez i'm repping you for managing to make a sensible reply to that abomination of a post.

EDIT: wait apparently I can't :(

[Amatsu]

I seriously think you're one of the dumbest members on NF, and that's saying something

Well hey if you want to say I'm stupid why don't you actually prove it instead of insulting me. If you can't do that then go back to newporkcity and continue in your circle jerk with some of the most retarded people I've ever seen on the internet.

Oh wait I forgot you can't. Because you and your buddies at newporkcity are only good at hit and run tactics. Really if insulting someone is the best you can do then you're even more stupid than you claim me to be.

I don't know about that, I think they would welcome that. Naruto as popular as it is, then to have a show to beat it popularity. Those are two huge shows on CN as opposed to 1. No company would try and change that.

eh I admit I was exaggerating a little, but I find nothing wrong with that. I'm free to do so if I wish. It's not my fault people like Geg and King Dead take every little thing personally. I don't even care if they think it's backpedaling. Since they obviously show their non-existant maturity and intelligence by coming into threads and starting shit up with people whom they believe to be inferior to them.

[Jetstorm]

Anymore flaming and people are getting banned.

Knock off the snide remarks that have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. You people know who you are and if you don't you will find yourself in the banned lands.

[Geg]

Pretty much what the King said. If Cartoon Network really didn't want any show except for Naruto to become popular they'd just show Naruto 24/7.

Anyway, it doesn't really affect me if CN stops airing it. As far as we know FUNI is still planning on doing the DVDs even if it doesn't air on tv.

[King Dead]

As I said I felt like making an exaggeration. So yeah I called you retarded because you took that exaggeration and blew it out of proportion. You could have just ignored it. There was no reason to call me stupid or anything. Call what I'm saying now backpedaling all you want but that's all it was. It wasn't some paranoid theory or anything. After all I'm very much aware that the DVDs are still coming and that if they sell well One Piece will do well in the states.

I'm not stupid you know. I do know the facts, but apparently you don't seem to know that And to me that's very apparent because you feel you have to respond to it with a snide remark and then go back to your little utopia where you can laugh at "the non-intelligent OPTards on Narutofan or Arlong Park" with all your buddies.

So really am I the stupid one? Am I the one lacking maturity and intelligence? No I really don't think so.those insults weren't good the first time you used them

[Mullet_Power]

And maybe it's because I don't have as much attachment to cartoons as I used to, but I don't really understand this "support the dub" nonsense. Why would I buy an animated movie that I have little actual interest in? Thinking that it gives some kind of moral support is kind of silly, considering they're a distant company whose main interest is monetary gain.

So yeah, basically, it's just a cartoon on the TV, not worth getting so up-in-arms about, there's a whole world out there, go outside, drink lemonade, be happy, and so on, and so-forth. :yu

I think buying DVD's and supporting the people that have gave you countless hours of entertainment is a good idea, if only because you like it. You can't really say your the fan of a show if you steal all the episodes.

That said I'm upset it's off the air because there will be very little increase in the already small fanbase, and witch increases the chances the dvds won't do well witch means they might cancel dubbing/releasing dvds.

[Shirker]

'Kay, seriously, I'd expect this kind of pointless arguing in the library, but not here. C'mon guys, cool off before you find yourself in a crap-load of trouble the mods! :facepalm

Anyway, to make a post pertaining to issue at hand, I agree with Triggerhappy. This schedual change might not be all that bad. This gives Funi more time to focus on the earlier episodes of OP. Now that I think of it, CN probably did this so as not to overwhelm them with the responsibility of trying to squash in time with the DVD episodes and the TV episodes. (I'm aware that dubbing wise, they're pretty damn far ahead, but hey, better safe than sorry.)

[Amatsu]

All I'm hoping is that the break won't be too long. I may believe that CN loves Naruto a little too much, but despite that post I made I've never believed that CN would try to sabotage One Piece.

As far as the DVDs go all I can hope for is that they sell well.

[Shoddragon]

CN needs more blood in the one piece dub anyway. it would be a bit better and more attractive. and the whole water guns replacing marine guns, and navy signs replacing marine signs is kinda stupid.

[The Cheat]

CN needs more blood in the one piece dub anyway. it would be a bit better and more attractive. and the whole water guns replacing marine guns, and navy signs replacing marine signs is kinda stupid.

The funi dub doesn't do that, if it does, there are still the uncut dvds.

[jinjue]

To bring the thread back on topic with some ACTUAL NEWS for a fun change...

I just got back from the same show as dirt monkey AL in that thread posted by BlueNinja44, where I spoke personally at some length with Adam, who is one of Funimation's reps. He told me that Funimation did not have a hand in pulling One Piece off of the air and that they were currently in the process of trying to find out exactly what was going on with that whole situation from Cartoon Network. I was also told that as far as Funimation knows, One Piece should be returning to the air sometime in the future, but even they don't know exactly when. They did not stop dubbing the show and as of this weekend, at the very least, they do not have any plans to stop releasing the series on DVD, which are scheduled to be released every six to eight weeks or so. Right now there are no current plans to change the way the DVDs are being released either; however, if the series does well enough it may get a later re-release with different packaging, like many of Funimation's other releases.

The first four episodes of the television series was supposed to premier at the show. I actually managed to somehow find the time to attend that premier, albeit only by the skin of my teeth. It took place in one of our main panel rooms, and it was packed. But there was a glaring fuck-up somewhere along the way. The episodes were not what was brought to the premier; it was instead the eighth film again, which as you well know is already available on DVD from Funimation. It was a screener copy so there were also some audio/video complications, but I won't go into the details of that any further so don't ask. I didn't bother to stay for the entire screening, so I don't really know what the general audience reaction was to it either.

In regards to the movie eight DVD from Funimation, the lack of a Japanese 5.1 audio track is because the master they were given from Toei did not include a Japanese 5.1 audio track. Funimation can only work with what they are given by Toei and the other Japanese companies, and this includes all special features such as settei galleries, creditless intros and endings, behind the scenes footage and most everything else. Their writers, actors and directors are actually quite good at their jobs so bloopers are fairly rare, which is why English dub blooper reels aren't typically included as extras on Funimation's DVDs.

Several Funimation voice actors were also in attendance at the show this year, of which three among them – Brina Palencia, Caitlin Glass and Vic Mignogna – were involved in some way with the new One Piece English dub. Unfortunately I did not have the chance to talk or meet at length with any of them this year outside of work, nor was I able to attend any of their hosted panels. So someone else will have to provide information from their perspective, if there is any.

Hopefully this helps to clear up some things, at least from Funimation's side. As for Cartoon Network, not even Funimation knows for sure what's going on with them.

[StrawHat4Life]

Thanks for the illuminating report Jinjue, welcome back by the way:) It sounds like Funimation is just as in the dark as the fans are when it comes to OP's future on CN. Well at least Funi still has faith in the show.

[Masaki]

Glad to know it's not Funi we should be yelling at.

[Jetstorm]

Thanks for all of that information Jinjue. :)

[Amatsu]

I guess all we can hope for is that Funi deals with the situation with CN as soon as possible. Still I'm anticipating the DVDs.

[Shirker]

Thanks Jin. Nice info, and sorry you weren't able to see the 4 ep premier. That had to be dissapointing. But one really nice piece of info came out of this also... It's all CNs Fault :mad

[Dead Bones Musician]

Glad to know it's not Funi we should be yelling at.
Did you ever think it was their fault to begin with?

[jinjue]

Everyone is very welcome. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to glean anything further but at least there's still hope for the dub from Funimation's end. That's all that really matters, I suppose. :amuse

Thanks Jin. Nice info, and sorry you weren't able to see the 4 ep premier. That had to be dissapointing.
To be honest I wasn't that disappointed because I wasn't expecting to be able to see it to begin with simply because of how busy I was. So I wasn't really put out by it and ended up doing something more important anyway, albeit admittedly much less fun. I feel more sorry for the attendees who queued up to see it; I always hate it when things go wrong for the attendees. :(

In any case, aside from a mild case of "awww, oh well!" I'm pretty much over that whole fiasco. Besides, I more than made up for it by snagging a few bits of movie eight. Funimation was giving clips of the film away as a promotional item, so I managed to get a couple for myself. Nifty. :)

[Shoddragon]

just a question: why is everyone so sad about the DUB if like 98% of us either watch sub episodes, read the manga or both?

[competitionbros]

just a question: why is everyone so sad about the DUB if like 98% of us either watch sub episodes, read the manga or both?


The dub is a way for the series to become popular in America and get a new slew of fans. Although I do watch the sub and read the manga I also enjoy seeing an English version as it's a new experience in my favorite series. Also, as I said before, a dub is a gateway for new fans which means if it gets popular you see OP merchandise in America which is another plus for fans since otherwise they'd have to import said merchandise. Basically, yeah we can watch the sub but we'd get none of the figurines, games, plushies or w/e without a dub.

[Shoddragon]

The dub is a way for the series to become popular in America and get a new slew of fans. Although I do watch the sub and read the manga I also enjoy seeing an English version as it's a new experience in my favorite series. Also, as I said before, a dub is a gateway for new fans which means if it gets popular you see OP merchandise in America which is another plus for fans since otherwise they'd have to import said merchandise. Basically, yeah we can watch the sub but we'd get none of the figurines, games, plushies or w/e without a dub.

true, although I do think its a bit more exaggerated. In all honesty the only thing I see better in the funimation dub is editing ( most things are back to normal except blood, which SHOULD be there) and music. I hate the voices, which just appear to have little emotion. sanji sounds like a god damned background character with his non-distinctive voice.

the only way to get around the terrible voice acting ( at least in my opinion) would be for fellow one piece fans to go out there and convert their friends. maybe show a bit more one piece at anime conventions. I know thats thanks to Anime Boston 2008 ( which was AMAZING BTW) I am going to start reading/watching death note soon. possibly xxxholic as well now.

mass shows would be needed to show one piece's awesomeness.

perhaps someone here might wanna make an amazing one piece amv for next year's anime boston amv contest.

edit: @ competition: thinking about it now, I really have to agree with you. almost every single naruto cosplayer at anime boston I asked said they got into it from the dub, and like 99% of them watch the subs/read the manga. so your point is extremely valid.

[Nuriel]

To bring the thread back on topic with some ACTUAL NEWS for a fun change...

I just got back from the same show as dirt monkey AL in that thread posted by BlueNinja44, where I spoke personally at some length with Adam, who is one of Funimation's reps. He told me that Funimation did not have a hand in pulling One Piece off of the air and that they were currently in the process of trying to find out exactly what was going on with that whole situation from Cartoon Network. I was also told that as far as Funimation knows, One Piece should be returning to the air sometime in the future, but even they don't know exactly when. They did not stop dubbing the show and as of this weekend, at the very least, they do not have any plans to stop releasing the series on DVD, which are scheduled to be released every six to eight weeks or so. Right now there are no current plans to change the way the DVDs are being released either; however, if the series does well enough it may get a later re-release with different packaging, like many of Funimation's other releases.

The first four episodes of the television series was supposed to premier at the show. I actually managed to somehow find the time to attend that premier, albeit only by the skin of my teeth. It took place in one of our main panel rooms, and it was packed. But there was a glaring fuck-up somewhere along the way. The episodes were not what was brought to the premier; it was instead the eighth film again, which as you well know is already available on DVD from Funimation. It was a screener copy so there were also some audio/video complications, but I won't go into the details of that any further so don't ask. I didn't bother to stay for the entire screening, so I don't really know what the general audience reaction was to it either.

In regards to the movie eight DVD from Funimation, the lack of a Japanese 5.1 audio track is because the master they were given from Toei did not include a Japanese 5.1 audio track. Funimation can only work with what they are given by Toei and the other Japanese companies, and this includes all special features such as settei galleries, creditless intros and endings, behind the scenes footage and most everything else. Their writers, actors and directors are actually quite good at their jobs so bloopers are fairly rare, which is why English dub blooper reels aren't typically included as extras on Funimation's DVDs.

Several Funimation voice actors were also in attendance at the show this year, of which three among them – Brina Palencia, Caitlin Glass and Vic Mignogna – were involved in some way with the new One Piece English dub. Unfortunately I did not have the chance to talk or meet at length with any of them this year outside of work, nor was I able to attend any of their hosted panels. So someone else will have to provide information from their perspective, if there is any.

Hopefully this helps to clear up some things, at least from Funimation's side. As for Cartoon Network, not even Funimation knows for sure what's going on with them.

Thanks for all the wonderful information. I'm hoping that CN is just going through one of their cycles where they pull something or rerun it. But, reguardless, I'll still pick up the dvds as they come out.