Amalgam Tournament (Round 2) - Teach vs. StrawHats4Life

[Cochise]

1. Vote clearly on the victor. You must state a reason why you feel that team would win. Your vote is voided if: You don't have a reason stated, you have less than 100 posts (unless it is decided differently), and if you don't put I vote for: (Participant Name here) at the end of your post.
2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other person, then only that vote will count.
3. No filler abilities, none period.
4. No character hype, yes Zoro is fucking awesome, but please try and be serious and just go off their skills
5. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST character's are in play. (IE. If you pick Luffy's power/mind, he know's about Lucci's fighting style, basically all of his knowledge) EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 487 AND BEFORE.
6. Your character has 2 minute's of prep time. During which time your charcter may move, eat, hide, or charge an attack. Your character may not attack until two minutes have elapsed.
7. It’s a one on one fight.
8. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.
9. If you choose a Logia body or Logia power, you do not get their invincibility or intangibility. You can still be hurt and beaten. You can use anything else they're capable of.

Location - Enel's Ship (airbourne)
Distance - 10 metres

Teach
Body - Lucci
Powers - Lucci
Item - Goro Goro no Mi (Enel's DF)

versus

StrawHat4Life
Body - Zoro
Power - Enel
Item - Nikyuu Nikyuu no Mi (Kuma's DF)

[Teach]

Comments: Zoro has never eaten a fruit, he shouldn't be able to master it in 2mins. Lucci has eaten a fruit and arguably learned to use it quite effectively in low amount of time. I should be learning to use it much faster. This is considering Zoro haven't went somewhere beforehand to master it. --''

Either way I have the advantage here.

Prep:I eat my df, I will turn into a leopard, I melt some gold for me and go downfloor - Where Usopp was running the first time he was in the ark -, I will then be there with my gold 20 sec max, while holding the melt gold I will prepare my lightning to obliterate the deck, if that somehow fails I will also prepare to attack from beneath with light spam. This should easily happen in less than 1,30min


Attack: I use my prepped lightnings destroying the deck, then I will destroy the ruins in my way(This is for if he plans on doing something in the Deck). Once I see my opponent I will use El Thor, distracting him for a little bit. While 'taunted' I will use soru to reach him extremely fast and I will erupt the melt gold onto him. Which will cause him alot of pain and until he figures how to get out of it, I have prepared another El Thor which will go through him. While half-dead I'll start to dominate him with Rokushiki techniques. I will block all the light attacks with light.

All this happens extremely fast. Last physical resort is Sai Dai Rin. And without Plot no Mi you can't survive it unless you have rubber body and that is Plot no Mi-only. Yeah, yeah mantra this mantra that I'm too fast for mantra.

Good luck Strawhat, I don't know if I have time to be on for rebuttals because of my final exams.

[StrawHat4Life]

Here's my prep.
Comments:
I'm quite pleased that I got Enel's ship Maxim http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/277/06-07/ as a battleground because it's the best possible location for me. Unlike my opponent who only has the Goro Goro no Mi as an item but none of Enel's attributes, I have Enel's total sum power and knowledge which means that I know every inch of the ship and I can utilize all of its capabilities to the fullest. Also I'd like to point out that my opponent will only have a rudimentary understanding of his lightning powers and will not have access to any of the advanced lightning techniques that I will use to destroy him.

Before the Fighting starts:
To start I will eat Kuma's DF. Next I'll use Thunder Alchemy http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/280/08/ to melt the entire Golden Sun God Mask at the front of the ship (for reference see my first scan). Similar to how Enel reshaped a small portion of the Gold mask here http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/282/09/ I'm going to coat the entire top surface of the ship in gold plating and use whatever gold is left to make a super heated Trident for myself just like the one Enel used. When I'm done with that I'll race to the bottom of the ship at high speed.

When the Fighting starts:
I'll move at high speed carefully avoiding my opponent, and race to the bottom of the ship, where the Jet Dials are located http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/285/06/ When I reach the bottom I'll destroy all of the Jet dials that act as a back up propulsion for the ship but I will keep 2 for myself. Next I'll locate my opponents location with Mantra and depending on where he is one of two scenarios will play out.

Scenario A: If my opponent is still on the surface of the ship after I've destroyed the jet dials then I'll speed towards him using mantra to pinpoint where I can position myself directly below him. Remember I've coated the top surface of the Ship in solid gold which means that my opponent is standing right over it and I'm right under him and the gold plating. Once again I'll use Thunder Alchemy and melt the gold plating right under his feet and solidify a solid gold block around his legs and weld them in place then reshape two solid gold pillars and wrap them around his arms and hold them in place as well.

At this point I know what you're saying, “Teach has got Lucci and he can easily break out of the gold,” and or, “He'll just melt it with his own Thunder Alchemy.” 1. I'm not going to give him a chance to break out as you'll see and 2. he can't use Thunder Alchemy because he doesn't have Enel's mastery of Lightning and he can only use rudimentary Lightning abilities at best not something as advanced as Thunder Alchemy. Instantly after I've covered him with gold I'm going to crash up through the surface right behind him and solidify another solid gold block this time around his head. Then I'll blitz his mid section at point blank with Hundred Palm Pressure Cannon like so http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/ which will definitely break through his tekkai. After I've pulverized him I'll launch him off the ship with the gold still fused to him and send him hurtling to the ground at light speed. The End.

Scenario B: If my opponent is playing cat and mouse and not on the surface of the ship then I'll just race to the top and blow it to kingdom come with a combined Heavens Judgment and Ursa Shock. Using the Jet dials in combination with Kuma's abilities I'll launch into the air and stay up indefinitely. True my opponent can use Geppou to jump off the air but he can not do it indefinitely without a consistent means of propulsion ( i.e. Jet dials). I'll just blast him from above with air pressure cannon and send him hurtling to his death at light speed. The end.

Good luck to Teach.

[Teach]

Power and Item in my case should be the same, you have Zoro's mind not Enel's, you can't master it better than me. Zoro's body only include his mind, thus he can't have mastery of which he has never experienced of.

[StrawHat4Life]

lol Damn you Teach we have similar preps.:rant

No I have Enel's mind its the power that gives the body you've chosen its mind just like you've got Lucci's mind because of you chose his power.

You don't have the experience or knowledge of Enel to use Thunder Alchemy or a thunder attack as powerful as El Thor.

[Power16]

Zoro has seen Enel perform his attacks and knows that he has use his ship to power up his attacks so he has more of chance to use the location in his favor.

This is going to be an interesting match with a lot of destruction.

[StrawHat4Life]

I agree with you there will be a lot of destruction for sure but I want to correct something.
Zoro's mind has nothing to with this. I've just got his body inhabited by Enel's total sum knowledge and experience. If anything it puts this battle in even more in my favor.

Edit: As posted in the tournament registration

The Power part of your character has only to do with attacks and defenses. (ie. Zoro's katana mastery, CP9 attacks, all the powers of a specific character) Devil Fruits allowed. Character's knowledge also comes from this.

[Teach]

Fucking hell, I didn't consider that, but I still think Lucci can learn how to melt it in few sec, he has talent :pek

[StrawHat4Life]

My Rebuttal to Teach's strategy:

I see nothing in Teach's strat that deters my planning. In his prep he says he's going to melt some gold which is really Enel's Thunder Alchemy technique. First how will he melt the gold using Thunder Alchemy when he only has a rudimentary knowledge of his Lightning powers remember he doesn't have Enel's mastery only his DF. This kind of ability takes experience and practice. Secondly he then proposes to run with the melted gold downstairs. How? It'll take him long enough to figure out how to melt the gold to the proper malleability let alone run around with it at soru speed. Yet he thinks he can do this in less then 2 minutes? I'm sorry but this is just not going to happen. Especially after I've used up all of the gold and coated the entire deck with it in my prep.

If Teach destroys the deck thats fine by me because I'm at the bottom destroying the Jet Dials. The gold is still up on the destroyed deck in sufficient quantities for me to still initiate my plans and if it doesn't pan out there's a reason why I kept two Jet dials for myself.:nuts

[Cochise]

I vote for StrawHat

His plan is slightly more sound, and I only say that because Lucci won't be able to fully master Enel's powers. I like SH's Enel/Kuma combo and I think his character would take it.

[Power16]

I'm with Strawhat at the moment also.

[MIHAWK]

first i would like to say that i like both of u pretty much :laugh but my judgement will never be misleaded!!! :pek

look at this (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/423/04/)

lucci can stay in mid air by using small gepou

SH4L made an amazing strategy,trully amazing

teach how r u supposed to hold the gold that has melted??? even if u tekkai ur arms the heat will still pass through it like jyabura vs sanji showed

also the melt gold is like a mosquito sting in this battle so even if u used it or not it would be the same,unless u r were pointing in the eyes

[MIHAWK]

if scenario A was to happen then SH4L would have won easilly,but with scenario B notice that both of u will destroy the ship,so u r both falling,so the fight is in the air

teach has gepou,SH4L has the jet dials,gepou>>>jet dials,i won't count the thunder attacks since u both have them and they can be dodged by such an agile and fast character like lucci in the air but they can be deflected by kuma's DF too

even if teach can't use the attacks properly the question is can u use the jet dials good enough to fight a gepou user in the air?

[MIHAWK]

if scenario A was to happen then teach would have lost easilly cause he can't use thunder alchemy so concetrated like enel did and it would take him some seconds to melt the gold which gives enough time to SH4L to attack with any way he wants,also zoro>lucci as it can be understood in TB,the YDB stated zoro and luffy equals and luffy in EL>lucci,mantra along with zoro's reflexes and stamina would give SH4L an advantage

but it's scenario B and u r in the air and teach has a rokushiki user,i give this to teach but i feel that SH4L made an awesome strategy and it is unfair

i posted 3 times cause for some reason i cannot post large messages:notrust,damn connection,fuck u:mad

[Buggy The Clown]

I vote for Strawhat his strategy has more stability to it than Teach's.

[Kuwabara]

Lol @ Triple Post.


I vote for Teach His team is overall more powerful, and he also has a better character suited for Goro Goro no Mi, plus he also has the benefit of having a better strategy.

[MIHAWK]

godzilla SH4L in my opinion has a better strategy but the problem is that with scenario B they are in the air and teach is a gepou user

[Kuwabara]

In my opinion Teach has a better strategy. Doesn't Geppo allow people to fly and hover in mid air? That further backs up Teach's victory.

[Doc. Q]

I want to vote Straw hat for the prep and because he has the benefit of situation

I want to vote teach out of loyalty to the captain.

I'm torn :S

I vote StrawHats4Life

[MIHAWK]

I want to vote Straw hat for the prep and because he has the benefit of situation

I want to vote teach out of loyalty to the captain.

I'm torn :S

I vote StrawHats4Life

lol,remember that teach and SH4L's scenario B both are destroying the ship,so they are both in the air,teach has gepou,it ends there:)

but i agree SH4L made an AWESOME prep:nuts

[Shoddragon]

Power and Item in my case should be the same, you have Zoro's mind not Enel's, you can't master it better than me. Zoro's body only include his mind, thus he can't have mastery of which he has never experienced of.

actually........... his body does NOT include his mind.

Just a reminder to all participants: the body of your character represents its physical characteristics, things like willpower and will of D, and all things like this are not counted. it is the, body, NOT the mind.

[Doc. Q]

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[StrawHat4Life]

It's good to see people participating :)

Honestly I don't see Teach making it past my scenario A let alone B.

Some have asserted that I once I explode the ship, that Teach's character can use Geppou to kick off the air. I'd just like to say that I can launch off the air much more effectively and at light speed no less which is at a faster speed then Geppou. Remember anything that Kuma makes contact with whether tangible or intangible he can launch including himself. I'll just launch off the air in addition to the Jet Dials which gives me a constant means of propulsion. I'm higher in the sky then Teach and I'm blasting him with Air Pressure Cannon guided by mantra.

Lucci cannot use Geppou indefinitely he still needs a constant form of propulsion and also it's going to take all his concentration to keep kicking off the air and dodge my light speed attacks. How will he attack me when I'm so far above him hitting him with mantra precision attacks moving at light speed?

Edit: Teach never specifically stated in his prep that he would blow up the ship. Only I have stated such an intention therefore when I blow up the ship he'll be taken off guard.

[MIHAWK]

oh!!! i see,i may change my vote,i will think about it,let's wait what teach sais

if u can explain more to me how u plan on fighting in the air,if i am persuaded i will change my vote

it is true that u can use kuma's DF can hit him while he is in the air and u have the triangle too and u r not falling since u have the dials

but as u say u do repel air so in theory u could change ur course

[StrawHat4Life]

I'm not blowing up the ship until I reach the deck. Once I'm there I'll blow it up with Heavens Judgment followed by Ursa Shock. Instantly I'll launch off the ship going sky high at lightspeed. It really doesn't matter how high I get because I can still "see" my opponent with mantra even if he's amidst the falling wreckage of the ship. From there I'll just float along with the jet dials far above my opponent who can't see me when I'm so high up. Then it's just as simple as me raining down Air Pressure Cannon guided by mantra until I hit him. If he tries to Geppou up to me I'll just launch him back down with air currents and or a El Thor attack.

[MIHAWK]

hmmm,i might change my vote,i am near in changing it,i will wait for teach,if he doesn't show up i will vote u,if he does i will rejudge this

since in the air u can use more attacks and zoro has better reflexes and mantra i am clinging towards u

but he has gepou and rankyoku that are air based attacks,let's see teach's strategies against ur newest ones

[StrawHat4Life]

Lol @ Triple Post.


I vote for Teach His team is overall more powerful, and he also has a better character suited for Goro Goro no Mi, plus he also has the benefit of having a better strategy.

This is an ignorant statement, totally misinformed vote. I accept opinions that go against me but at least make an informed and reasoned one.

In what way is Teach's character more powerful exactly? I've got Zoro's damage soak, Kuma's DF, and Enel's total sum mastery and power. That means all of Enel's powers and knowledge and mantra.

Also, how is Teach better suited for Goro Goro no Mi. He's only eating the fruit at the beginning of battle. How the heck is he going to master it in 2 minutes? I've got Enel's total power from the get go on Enel's own ship no less.

Also, define how his strategy is superior please?

[Teach]

Rebuttal. :pek


Also I'd like to point out that my opponent will only have a rudimentary understanding of his lightning powers and will not have access to any of the advanced lightning techniques that I will use to destroy him.
Lucci has eaten a DF before, and once he ate that Leopard fruit he learned to use it very fast. He has experience over DF's and I bet he manipulate it enough to melt the gold and make base attacks such as El Thor
I'm going to coat the entire top surface of the ship in gold plating and use whatever tgold is left o make a super heated Trident for myself just like the one Enel used. When I'm done with that I'll race to the bottom of the ship at high speed.I destroyed the top surface.(note for future)

At high speed? You can't use the speed of light, only way you can go there is running and you can't make it in time.


I'll move at high speed carefully avoiding my opponent, and race to the bottom of the ship where the Jet Dials are located.You still can't move in a speed of light staying intangible isn't allowed in this tourney. When I reach the bottom I'll destroy all of the Jet dials that act as a back up propulsion for the ship but I will keep 2 for myself.You will not reach it, and I don't see why you will even use jet dials considering they are nothing compared to Lucci's soru not to mention his leopard form.Scenario A If my opponent is still on the surface of the ship after I've destroyed the jet dials then I'll speed towards him using mantra to pinpoint where I can position myself directly below him.Scenario A will not happen.

Scenario B: If my opponent is playing cat and mouse and not on the surface of the ship then I'll just race to the top and blow it to kingdom come with a combined Heavens Judgment and Ursa Shock. Using the Jet dials in combination with Kuma's abilities I'll launch into the air and stay up indefinitely. True my opponent can use Geppou to jump off the air but he can not do it indefinitely without a consistent means of propulsion ( i.e. Jet dials). I'll just blast him from above with air pressure cannon and send him hurtling to his death at light speed. The end.First you won't get the Jet Dials in time, second the deck is destroyed.

Lucci can take alot more dmg than your combined Nikyuu and Jet dials can produce and it doesn't even happen.

Either way you get the jet dials or not they are not going to help you I have Geppou which is considerably faster than Jet dials in air. Use Nikyuu? I use rankyaku.

I win with my physical attacks easily.

I am faster, I am stronger. That's all I need here.

[StrawHat4Life]

Lucci has eaten a DF before, and once he ate that Leopard fruit he learned to use it very fast. He has experience over DF's and I bet he manipulate it enough to melt the gold and make base attacks such as El Thor
I destroyed the top surface.(note for future)

At high speed? You can't use the speed of light, only way you can go there is running and you can't make it in time.

You still can't move in a speed of light staying intangible isn't allowed in this tourney.You will not reach it, and I don't see why you will even use jet dials considering they are nothing compared to Lucci's soru not to mention his leopard form.Scenario A will not happen.
First you won't get the Jet Dials in time, second the deck is destroyed.

Lucci can take alot more dmg than your combined Nikyuu and Jet dials can produce and it doesn't even happen.

Either way you get the jet dials or not they are not going to help you I have Geppou which is considerably faster than Jet dials in air. Use Nikyuu? I use rankyaku.

I win with my physical attacks easily.

The only thing you win easily is a one way light speed ticket to the ground.

Lucci had already consumed his Zoan DF long before the SH's ever got to Water 7. He didn't just recently consume it like Kaku and Kalifa did. It takes years of training to fully maximize the potential of your DF powers just like Luffy and I'm sure that Lucci is no exception. You can't use thunder alchemy which defeats the purpose of most of your prep.

I am arguably the fastest character in this tournament and I'm not using intangibility to manage it. When I say high speed I mean physically moving at light speed http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/ in other words I can send any tangible or intangible object traveling at light speed including myself. There is no running involved here people Kuma's DF allows me to move at light speed without ever having to move my feet no running is involved at all. Now when you combine that with Enel's mantra and Zoro's finely tuned body, I have a character that cannot be touched physically. How will you ever hit me?

Remember this isn't intangiblity because I'm not using Enel's lightning speed conversion. I'm still as tangible as everyone else except I'm moving myself at light speed.

In your prep you never state that you'll blow up the ship only I said that in my prep. Which means that if you even get past my A scenario which I highly doubt, you'll be caught off guard when/if I explode the ship. I'm on the deck when I blow everything up then I'm launching sky high into the air using Kuma's ability to launch himself off any surface. I'm so high up that I can use the jet dials to just float along and I can still perfectly "see" you with mantra but you can't see me. If you use Geppou to get to me it's so simple to just send you crashing back with air pressure or a simple lightning diversion.

Edit: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/09/ Hmmm...so you're gonna send Rankyaku at me huh. Well you do that because I can easily redirect it back at you so you're only helping my cause.

[Teach]

Lucci had already consumed his Zoan DF long before the SH's ever got to Water 7. He didn't just recently consume it like Kaku and Kalifa did. It takes years of training to fully maximize the potential of your DF powers just like Luffy and I'm sure that Lucci is no exception. You can't use thunder alchemy which defeats the purpose of most of your prep.And Kalifa and Kaku both learned to use it extremely fast, thus Lucci being the most talented he learned to use it faster.

I am arguably the fastest character in this tournament and I'm not using intangibility to manage it. When I say high speed I mean physically moving at light speed http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/ in other words I can send any tangible or intangible object traveling at light speed including myself. There is no running involved here people Kuma's DF allows me to move at light speed without ever having to move my feet no running is involved at all. Now when you combine that with Enel's mantra and Zoro's finely tuned body, I have a character that cannot be touched physically. How will you ever hit me?You really think you can use pressure cannon? No way in hell you can learn it that fast + you don't have Kuma's body to bare it's influence on body.

Remember this isn't intangiblity because I'm not using Enel's lightning speed conversion. I'm still as tangible as everyone else except I'm moving myself at light speed. You can't use speed of light since in that time you are intangible.

In your prep you never state that you'll blow up the ship only I said that in my prep. Which means that if you even get past my A scenario which I highly doubt, you'll be caught off guard when/if I explode the ship. I'm on the deck when I blow everything up then I'm launching sky high into the air using Kuma's ability to launch himself off any surface. I'm so high up that I can use the jet dials to just float along and I can still perfectly "see" you with mantra but you can't see me. If you use Geppou to get to me it's so simple to just send you crashing back with air pressure or a simple lightning diversion.You will not have the Jet Dials I will find you faster than you will find jet dials.

I said I will destroy the deck.

Your A scenario was based on me being the deck which makes it null.

Your B scenario will not succeed because you can't fly.

I'm done see ya tomorrow.

[StrawHat4Life]

And Kalifa and Kaku both learned to use it extremely fast, thus Lucci being the most talented he learned to use it faster.
You really think you can use pressure cannon? No way in hell you can learn it that fast + you don't have Kuma's body to bare it's influence on body.
You can't use speed of light since in that time you are intangible.
You will not have the Jet Dials I will find you faster than you will find jet dials.

I said I will destroy the deck.

Your A scenario was based on me being the deck which makes it null.

Your B scenario will not succeed because you can't fly.

I'm done see ya tomorrow.

Both Kaku and Kalifa were still in the infancy of their powers and totally inexperienced with it. In contrast, Lucci was totally smooth and way above their league when it came to the usage of his own DF. That comes from training not 2 minutes of prep time.

I don't have Kuma's body to bear influence on his body. This makes no sense because Kuma's a paw man. He uses the paws on his hand to move at light speed the rest of his body is irrelevent. How can I not use air pressure cannon ? The only thing I can't use are Kuma's advanced techniques like his ability to take away pain and damage and perhaps Ursa Shock. When I eat the Nikyu and all of a sudden paws grow on my hand it's pretty obvious they're not there for show.

I coated the whole deck in gold even if you destroy it theirs still enough of it left for me to use. You don't have the ability to vaporize all of it or use thunder alchemy to manipulate it. All I need is a little bit of it to use scenario A as easily as I did if you didn't destroy it.

I can't fly? You do realize that Kuma's powers allow me to rebound off the air right just by touching it.. Also two jet dials are more then sufficient for me to stay aloft.

[Doc. Q]

I can't fly? You do realize that Kuma's powers allow me to rebound off the air right just by touching it.. Also two jet dials are more then sufficient for me to stay aloft.

I agree with everything else you said, but theres no way to keep yourself in the air with only 2 jet dials.

It's almost straight acceleration, you would just be shot one way, then the other. you would need like a ring of them around you pointed down to keep you flying.

[StrawHat4Life]

Who else in this tournament has more knowledge about dials then Enel? I'm putting the dials on the soles of my feet like Iron Man uses his rocket boots. That's why having Enel's knowledge and experience helps, he has a knowledge of weather patterns and air currents equal to Nami because of his lightning power. Also I have mantra to help me correct my movements and air flow. There has to be a way to accelerate and decelerate it's not just one setting.

[Teach]

I don't have Kuma's body to bear influence on his body. This makes no sense because Kuma's a paw man. He uses the paws on his hand to move at light speed the rest of his body is irrelevent. How can I not use air pressure cannon ? The only thing I can't use are Kuma's advanced techniques like his ability to take away pain and damage and perhaps Ursa Shock. When I eat the Nikyu and all of a sudden paws grow on my hand it's pretty obvious they're not there for show.Sry I meant you can't use Nikyuu's speed abilities since Zoro isn't Iron or whatever the hell is Kuma made off. Still you can only run in the Jet dials place, there's no way in hell you can make it there, I'll catch you faster than you run there.

I coated the whole deck in gold even if you destroy it theirs still enough of it left for me to use. You don't have the ability to vaporize all of it or use thunder alchemy to manipulate it. All I need is a little bit of it to use scenario A as easily as I did if you didn't destroy it.I destroyed the deck, you can't possibly find anything in that rubble.

I can't fly? You do realize that Kuma's powers allow me to rebound off the air right just by touching it.. Also two jet dials are more then sufficient for me to stay aloft.You can't you don't have his body that withstands the speed he gains from using it, why else would Vegapunk create Kuma's body? And you can't learn to use it as fast if I can't use alchemy which was a lowlvl skill anyways.

I woke up to rebut this xD.

[StrawHat4Life]

Good now you can go back to sleep. I'm not going to rebut your arguments anymore cause I've already made my case and so have you. We'll see what happens.

[Teach]

We are done, now more votes I'm on the losing end.

People choose me. Look at my sig. :P

[MIHAWK]

in a one on one fight SH4L would win,even still if he doesnt have the speed that kuma has and moves his arms we saw kuma to use air pressure without moving,like with the ursus shock

zoro physically after TB is stronger and more durable than lucci,oz could pwn lucci with his pinky on the left toe,zoro countered a punch of oz with a simple slice of his swords,we saw him doing excercises with 4 tons with his fingers,so he doesn't need to have the power of kuma to be able to deflect lucci's attacks though he wont do it in a very successfull way

but in the air teach could destroy ur dials but then u have mantra and zoro's reflexes and in a certain extent u have kuma's defensive DF to back all that

if the battlefield was anything else SH4L u would have won but it would be a close fight since zoro doesnt have his swords,if scenario A was to happen u would dominate

i would give my vote to teach but i would give my repsects to u for making an unbelievable strategy if i could decide

scenario A would pwn anyone but in the end if for example u both are hit in the same time by a thunder attack ur dials wont be able to hold out and if they could since more or less u balanced due to zoro not having swords i think in the end at least one of the dials would be lost or broken

but u have zoro's unbelievable reflexes,with ryuma franky couldnt even see them,u have mantra that predicts what ur opponent would do and combined with the reflexes u have both the mind and the body to be 1 step forward and u have kuma's DF,even if u couldn't hit so fast u still can collect pressure and throw an ursus shock

but u dont have ur swords,i can't decide,sorry guysi can't

[Cochise]

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[MIHAWK]

i forgot something,since teach will destroy the ship SH4L won't make it in time to take the dials

i vote for teach though i respect both opponents and i was amazed with scenario A by SH4L

in another field teach would have lost to SH4L,at least that is my opinion

[StrawHat4Life]

No offense Mihawk but did you bother to read prep. Teach never destroyed the ship he's only razing the deck, hello! He never stated he would destroy the ship only the DECK. I have Enel's knowledge of the ship and I know the fastest route to the Dials I'll get to them while Teach is running around with a useless prep. And I still have yet to see any one explain how he's getting past my scenario A.

[Dragon (banned)]

WHOO GO TEACH!! RP BRIGADE REPRESENT WHOOO! I vote Teach

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[MIHAWK]

No offense Mihawk but did you bother to read prep. Teach never destroyed the ship he's only razing the deck, hello! He never stated he would destroy the ship only the DECK. I have Enel's knowledge of the ship and I know the fastest route to the Dials I'll get to them while Teach is running around with a useless prep. And I still have yet to see any one explain how he's getting past my scenario A.

i read all the preps and rebuttals brother:amazed

in the prep u can't hurt anyone,teach from the prep went inside the ship,so there's no scenario A

also in scenario B u said u would destroy the ship and teach said the same thing more or less

bro in my mind the ship is destroyed,even if he said he would destroy the deck a god's judgement would destroy the ship,there's no question in that

but then u r in the air and he is a gepou user whether or not u r able to take the dials or not

zoro is without his swords,u both have the same DF so i wont even count it but ur mastery gives u mantra,also u have kuma's df for defense back up and zoro is stronger and with much more better reflexes than lucci

but he has no swords and enel never showed any combat skills so i think this is a balanced fight on 1 on 1 that in the end u would win in a normal field

BUT in my eyes this balanced fight goes into the air,even if u can use ur dials and abilities to fight him and let's say i accept u can manipulate those dials as well as lucci can use gepou,still in a balanced fight like this i think there is no way you can keep the possesion of both ur dials

for example the dials have a button and u say u put them in the soles and use them as chopper's opponent,even still gadus lost a shoe and u r facing a rokushiki user in the air and u are using the flying shoes of gadus for the first time

either u will lose a shoe or it will be destroyed,and even if that doesn't happen u still are fighting a gepou user in the air

EDIT:

also he said he would ruin the deck if u were on it when u were running to get to the bottom

and u said if he wasnt on the deck u would blow up the ship and he isnt on the deck

so u both r on air

[StrawHat4Life]

i read all the preps and rebuttals brother:amazed

in the prep u can't hurt anyone,teach from the prep went inside the ship,so there's no scenario A

also in scenario B u said u would destroy the ship and teach said the same thing more or less

bro in my mind the ship is destroyed,even if he said he would destroy the deck a god's judgement would destroy the ship,there's no question in that

but then u r in the air and he is a gepou user whether or not u r able to take the dials or not

zoro is without his swords,u both have the same DF so i wont even count it but ur mastery gives u mantra,also u have kuma's df for defense back up and zoro is stronger and with much more better reflexes than lucci

but he has no swords and enel never showed any combat skills so i think this is a balanced fight on 1 on 1 that in the end u would win in a normal field

BUT in my eyes this balanced fight goes into the air,even if u can use ur dials and abilities to fight him and let's say i accept u can manipulate those dials as well as lucci can use gepou,still in a balanced fight like this i think there is no way you can keep the possesion of both ur dials

for example the dials have a button and u say u put them in the soles and use them as chopper's opponent,even still gadus lost a shoe and u r facing a rokushiki user in the air and u are using the flying shoes of gadus for the first time

either u will lose a shoe or it will be destroyed,and even if that doesn't happen u still are fighting a gepou user in the air

EDIT:

also he said he would ruin the deck if u were on it when u were running to get to the bottom

and u said if he wasnt on the deck u would blow up the ship and he isnt on the deck

so u both r on air

There are so many inconsistencies with what you said. When I meant Teach has a useless prep thats exactly what I meant a useless strategy. His entire strategy hinges upon him using thunder alchemy to pour molten gold over me which I've proven he can't do. So what does he have left then?

Why do you assume that its a given that I'm blowing up the ship? I'm only blowing up the ship as a last resort.Teach specifically states he's destroying the deck from the floor just under it. I'm only blowing up the ship as a last resort, that's why I call it a Scenario B. I'm still below him and he's right next to the deck that he destroyed and the gold is still there in enough quantities. My plan still goes off.

His goal isn't to blow up the ship and you (the voter) just can't add "It'll blow up the ship anyway," because that's not Teach's intention. If I blew up the ship Teach would be caught off guard.

I'm moving at the speed of light to the jet dials which I already know the fastest way to get to. When I'm done he's already fried the deck but he's still up there looking for me I'm still below him. I've coated the top surface of the ship with gold. Even though Teach razed the deck with lightning the gold will still be up there in sufficient quantities for me to easily mold it around him as I've stated in my prep.

Now hypothetically speaking let's say we're in the air. Remember I've launched myself way up into the sky. How will Teach see me? How will he geppou to me before I send him flying at light speed to the ground? What's he gonna attack with that I cannot easily deflect. The jet dials are only giving me constant propulsion because I've placed them on my feet. Enel knows more about dials then anyone in this tournament. You think he can't figure out how they work?

Edit: This ain't personal Mihawk because the match is not over until the Cochise sings. So I've gotta fight for every vote.

[MIHAWK]

yeah bro,if that was personal knowing u i would have to double check my post cause i would have said something to offend so i would have to apologise,my E-pride is nothing compared to my OP NAKAMA :yell

first thing bro,kuma moves in the speed of light (for me its a hyperbole but whatever),he moves his hands at that speed and he repels air cause of that action,so between his hands and the air paws the DF is only a mediator

its not like he has a fruit that shoots air with the speed of light or makes u move in the speed of light,that was because of kuma's body

now secondly teach is inside the ship,the gold is in the deck,thats why i doubt scenario A will happen

also u cant expect to be able to have full mastery of the dials in the air

with scenario A u will 100%,since the gold is in the huge face on the deck and he is in a lower level of the ship why do u think scenario A will be executed????

if u can convince me how it would happen then the vote is yours,otherwise i give this to teach since i think with both of u having high reflexes and enel's fruit in less than a minute the ship would be destroyed,imagenning one el thor and one god's jusgement hitting maxim,it's over for the ship

i cant change my mind on everything else i said but with scenario A i know u will win so answer the question in bold

[StrawHat4Life]

I'm taking the whole gold mask and melting it all over the top surface of the ship and I make a trident for myself. Teach said he would go below the deck and blow it from there. I'm already at the extreme bottom getting the dials. That's a lot of gold up there even if Teach tried his biggest attack the deck is too huge for him to get rid of all the gold.

When the fighting starts I'm zooming back up to the surface no matter what. Now that the surface is exposed Teach technically should be looking at the sky because the deck has been blown open and he's close to the surface anyway. If he's still up there I should still be able to gather enough gold from my trident and the surrounding and pull it off with mantra and superior speed.

If I can't get to him then I'll blow up the ship. I still think I can beat him in the sky. Anyway if you keep to your decision thats fine. If I win then see you in the next round!!!!!:yell If not give 'em hell :bang

[MIHAWK]

thanks,i hope both of u and doc could advance and we would meet in the courter finals :cry

lolz,thats it

I AM FORFEITING MY VOTE

damn u both :yell,i dunno who to vote,this would need to be animated

if i am not 100% sure then i cant vote

[Teach]

Oh well, 24 hour is almost up and I think SHL got more votes than me.

Good strategy SH, but I don't really think it works but hey you convinced more people than me. Congratulation :).

And good luck in your next match. Without your char I think I would've easily make it to finals xD.

[StrawHat4Life]

Sorry Teach wish you could have made it as well. I've had to argue like a bitch in my last match and this one just to eek by with a win.

[Kuya]

match over. SHL wins.

too lazy and too sick to post who voted for who, but i tallied SHL the winner.