Episode 134 & 135 Discussion

[Triggerhappy69]

134 - The End of Tears

135 - The Promise That Could Not Be Kept

Well guys, this is it, we're here. Not only does tonight bring us the gripping conclusion of Naruto and Sasuke's much anticipated fight, but it also brings along with it the last two full on canon episodes for looooooong ass time.

However, try not to fret about that too much, because the two episodes that air tonight are, like the last two episodes, among the best this series has to offer. Not only is the art and animation extremely good in both of them, but each one gives us a bit of insight on where this story will be heading from here on out.

Remember to discuss spoilers or anything past these episodes here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=186639).

[Toruji Ichutake]

Time to see Sasuke's CS2 powers in action.

[Snowblind]

Tonight's episodes probably won't be as good as last weeks, but they should be pretty solid regardless

[Triggerhappy69]

Tonight's episodes probably won't be as good as last weeks, but they should be pretty solid regardless

They may not be action packed like the last, but in terms of the story, both of em rock.

[Cookies]

Ah yes, the final two of this arc.

I'm looking forward to it as usual.

[Tainted_reflection]

They may not be action packed like the last, but in terms of the story, both of em rock.

True.
I can't wait for it to air... 30 more min.

Can't wait to see how well the VA's did.

Btw... your avatar and sig are hilarious. :lmao

[Cookies]

31 minutes exactly......

I wonder when we'll be seeing great episodes like these again.....

[xChidorixRasenganx]

Im happy and mad. The conclusion of the fight :( :( :( :(

[Chouji 15]

It's been a long time coming, but we're finally here.

[Blood+]

I can't wait........got my popcorn all ready!!!!! lol!!!!!!!!

[Cookies]

3 minutes left........

And also the sudden flow of about 40 people. :lmao

[TsukasaElkKite]

This is it! :wtf

[TsukasaElkKite]

NO BOY NO CRY 1 2 3 GO! :D

[TsukasaElkKite]

CS2 Sasuke vs 1 tail Kyuubi! :wtf THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC!

Also, CS2 Sasuke is a birdy! He floats! :wtf

[Toruji Ichutake]

Whoa, CREEPY HAND.

[C_Akutabi]

Ah, the ugly hand wings

[Toruji Ichutake]

I changed my mind.

CREEPY HANDS THAT LOOKS LIKE FROGS'. D=

[x0Uchiha0x]

i want to watch but my TV is fucked....T_T

[Cookies]

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And here is the forming audience. :awesome

[Bonds]

Final Valley...?

[TsukasaElkKite]

Uh oh...Naruto can't feel his arm! OH NOES!

xD

"Final Valley" my ass. -_- It's The Valley of the End!

[Chouji 15]

....The Final Valley? Why not the Valley of the End? :notrust

[Geg]

In before bitching about "Final Valley"

edit: Damn you guys are fast

[mangod]

"Final valley"?
I thought it was called "Valley of the End"

[C_Akutabi]

Doesn't have the same ring to it as Valley of the End.

[Chouji 15]

Goddamn flashbacks!

[Toruji Ichutake]

Wasn't it called Valley of the End in the subs?

I like Valley of the End better.

[Muse]

:sag No matter how many times i see it, i still think CS2 sasuke looks ridiculous :facepalm

[TsukasaElkKite]

Doesn't have the same ring to it as Valley of the End.
It's made of fail.

The music during this flashback is made of epic win.

[Shirker]

"Widdle Gurl!"

:lmao

[Toruji Ichutake]

If anyone is wondering, the name of the music during the flashback is "Hero."

[mangod]

hmmm
Maybe it has something to do with the mouth flaps in Japanese compared to English.

[C_Akutabi]

Itachi looked fucked up in that part

BLACK CHIDORI :awesome

[Shirker]

lol at final valley complaints.

[Zoe]

Wasn't it called Valley of the End in the subs?

I like Valley of the End better.

Eh, it's not as if it was called that in English in the raw. It's just like them not using "promise of a lifetime."

[TsukasaElkKite]

DARK CHIDORI FTW!

[Toruji Ichutake]

Wow, Naruto can do Rasengan with one hand in his Nine-Tails 1.

What the?! Sasuke can fly? =O

Cool! Black Chidori!

[Chouji 15]

FINAL CLASH!

[General Mustang]

Awww damn I love that part

[mangod]

I always think of him as Super Saiyan Sasuke. : P

[TsukasaElkKite]

What the?! Sasuke can fly? =O

Cool! Black Chidori!
Sasuke: *fwippy fwippy fwippy*

[rpgman1]

It's back to see the outcome between Chidori vs. Rasengan.

[Shiron]

hmmm
Maybe it has something to do with the mouth flaps in Japanese compared to English.
^This. It's really nothing that major.

[Chouji 15]

BLACK ENERGY BALL OF DEATH!

The hell?

[Toruji Ichutake]

Yay, Black Destructive Bubble!

Noooo! Naruto got hit by Chidori!

[Bonds]

Sasuke pulls his punch and Naruto stratches the headband. Gets to me everytime.

[TsukasaElkKite]

AND THE SCRATCH ON THE HEADBAND HAS BEEN MADE! :wtf

[TsukasaElkKite]

BLACK ENERGY BALL OF DEATH!

The hell?
FTW! *BOOM*

[C_Akutabi]

The moment that launched a thousand yaoi fangirls...

[Muse]

Rainbow and hand-holding tyme :awesome

[Toruji Ichutake]

Two-finger shake.

Aw, they look so happy.

[TsukasaElkKite]

*weeps* Their friendship is severed! :cry This part always gets to me

[TsukasaElkKite]

The moment that launched a thousand yaoi fangirls...
Best quote EVER!

[Chouji 15]

The moment that launched a thousand yaoi fangirls...

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :zaru

[TsukasaElkKite]

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :zaru
I'm a yaoi fangirl :zaru

[TsukasaElkKite]

KISS HIM FOR GOD'S SAKE! :zaru

[Toruji Ichutake]

Wow, Sasuke is so close to Naruto.

Don't do anything gay to Naruto, k Sasuke?

[Muse]

:scry


This part is always sad...

[rpgman1]

Looks like Sasuke won the match. They did look happy in that moment.

[TsukasaElkKite]

Wow, Sasuke is so close to Naruto.

Don't do anything gay to Naruto, k Sasuke?
I was hoping for a kiss, but NO, DENIED! :cry

[Chouji 15]

And there's nothing wrong with that.

What's with the pouring rain while Sasuke looks into Naruto's lifeless body? Yaoi fangirls must have wrote that moment in.

[Linkaro]

Best quote EVER!

now I can expect my quote to be delete now.....

[mangod]

LOL I doubt that many 12/13 year olds are doing that. :laugh

[TekJansen]

^^ This is dub goodness. 100% believe it goodness.

[TsukasaElkKite]

And there's nothing wrong with that.

What's with the pouring rain while Sasuke looks into Naruto's lifeless body? Yaoi fangirls must have wrote that moment in.
HA! I doubt it.

[Chouji 15]

Kakashi-Sensei! X3

[Linkaro]

Kakashi looks sooooo sad....

[Toruji Ichutake]

I was hoping for a kiss, but NO, DENIED! :cryREJECTED.

And Sasuke left. And Kakashi's always late. =(

[TsukasaElkKite]

LOL I doubt that many 12/13 year olds are doing that. :laugh
LOL you're probably right :laugh

[TsukasaElkKite]

REJECTED.

And Sasuke left. D=
MADE OF EPIC FAIL! D:

[TsukasaElkKite]

Kakashi-Sensei! X3
Seconded! X3 I love how he's being so gentle with Naruto. X3

[mangod]

Kakashi looks sooooo sad....

That's just what I was about to say but I thought it would be pointing out the obvious.

[Zoe]

I don't remember it being so yellow...

[Chouji 15]

Going through all that and Naruto's not even dead. How you feel bitch?:mad

[Linkaro]

nice...the cut to ads was almost perfect...

[C_Akutabi]

I don't remember it being so yellow...

They should have edited it green :LOS

[Toruji Ichutake]

I don't remember it being so yellow...It gives us more feel of the mood.

[Shirker]

Poor Kaka-sensei...

[TsukasaElkKite]

Going through all that and Naruto's not even dead. How you feel bitch?:mad
Itachi got PWNT. Poor bastard.

[Bonds]

Why? I don't get it.

Sasuke didn't kill Naruto, which goes against what Itachi wanted.

[Chouji 15]

Green blood is awesome! :LOS

[Fonz_Kakashi]

Notice when Sasuke's walking in the pouring rain, who does he look like? The artwork gives him pale sickly skin, with dark purple hair...looks to me a lot like Orochimaru.

[C_Akutabi]

Green blood is awesome! :LOS

And black blood is badass :LOS

[Fai]

The scene where Sasuke leans over Naruto in the rain is always so sad, yet sweet. ♥

[Toruji Ichutake]

Itachi sounds weird that time.

I'm glad that Sasuke didn't want to kill Naruto.

[Linkaro]

Sasuke....u sound sooo....evil...

[Chouji 15]

And there goes one of the best characters of the series.

[mangod]

Did anyone notice how Sasuke didn't call Naruto scaredy cat in the flashback? :huh

[Denji]

y helo thar!:LOS

[Toruji Ichutake]

OMG, a new Akatsuki member!

Sakura's going to be pissed when Naruto comes back without Sasuke.

[Linkaro]

GAH!!!!! PLANT MAN!!!!! POSIN'S IVY'S HUSBAND!!!!

[C_Akutabi]

Oh snap look who's here!!! :awesome

[General Mustang]

OMG...I liked his voices

[Denji]

The plant man cometh!:kukuku

[Chouji 15]

Plantman-assulted! X3

[TekJansen]

Mr. Plantman, Listen and watch, Don't get involved in f'ing plot.

It's getting good!

[rpgman1]

Another member of the Akatsuki appeared out of the ground! Now this is interesting to see that he was watching the battle.

[Fonz_Kakashi]

I love the scene of kid-Naruto and kid-Sasuke holding hands, actually happy and getting along. :amuse Such a sad ending...

[Toruji Ichutake]

Wow, the name of the new Akatsuki member wasn't given out yet, and you guys scream out his name.

[Linkaro]

is it me or is the opening going a bit fast?

[TekJansen]

Wow, the name of the new Akatsuki member wasn't given out yet, and you guys scream out his name.

Sadly I don't think names are moddable spoilers... sadly...

[Bonds]

it was only one sentence..

What's your point? For that one sentence it wasn't deep enough.

[TsukasaElkKite]

Wow, the name of the new Akatsuki member wasn't given out yet, and you guys scream out his name.
That's cause we're excited. X3

[mangod]

LOL
Sorry about that. It's hard for me not to blurt out spoilers.

[TsukasaElkKite]

LOL
Sorry about that. It's hard for me not to blurt out spoilers.
It's hard for me too.

[Toruji Ichutake]

Dang, that's a pretty big book.

[Chouji 15]

CHOUJI! NO! X3 X3

[C_Akutabi]

Aw that looks nasty

[Toruji Ichutake]

Shizune looks so awesome in that 4-people medical jutsu.

[TsukasaElkKite]

That's gotta hurt. Poor boys...

[Chouji 15]

A shot at Temari's legs makes me happy again! :zaru

[C_Akutabi]

Temari's sexy legs :love

[Bonds]

Temari has sexy legs.

[TsukasaElkKite]

Shizune looks so awesome in that 4-people medical jutsu.
Shizune = FTW

[C_Akutabi]

Oh, Shika's dad told him :hehee

[Yoyoenix91]

Can someone explain what they are doing to treat Neji again? o__o;

[Chouji 15]

Chouji lives! :cry

[Chlorine]

I already knew, I was just double-checking.

[TsukasaElkKite]

Can someone explain what they are doing to treat Neji again? o__o;
They're using his hair as a conductor to help regrow his cells.

[Toruji Ichutake]

Whoa, that book belongs to the Nara Clan? They must be extremely smart.

Everyone's ok. =)

[mangod]

aw man
Shikamaru shouldn't cry. :cry

[Chouji 15]

Wow Tsunade, way to make Shika feel like a failure.

It's not his fault that Sasuke was all butthurt about Itachi and Naruto being stronger than him. It's not his fault that Naruto couldn't stop Sasuke. Geez. :notrust

[C_Akutabi]

Whoa, that book belongs to the Nara Clan? They must be extremely smart.

Shika wasn't enough to show that?

[Fonz_Kakashi]

Wow Tsunade, way to make Shika feel like a failure.

It's not his fault that Sasuke was all butthurt about Itachi and Naruto being stronger than him. It's not his fault that Naruto couldn't stop Sasuke. Geez. :notrust
Yeah, but it's just like Shikamaru himself said, he's the squad leader. He has to take responsibility. :(

[TekJansen]

Shika's so cool, That was a great scene. His dad sounded odd, was that a new VA? It wasn't really bad but it sounded off from what I remembered him sounding like in earlier epps.

[Shirker]

Wow, the name of the new Akatsuki member wasn't given out yet, and you guys scream out his name.

oh, crap! I forgot! Sorry, Jedi X3

[Toruji Ichutake]

Shika wasn't enough to show that?Well, he is only one individual. I didn't expect all of them to be pretty smart.

Man, Sasuke's acting so bad that Orochimaru's impressed.

[Chouji 15]

It's the Sound 3 Gang! Sasuke, Oro, and Kabuto! What wacky shenannigans will they get in to? Find out...someday!

EDIT: Yeah, Ino wants to check on Chouji first! LUV IS N DA AER! :zaru

[TsukasaElkKite]

Yay! Sasuke's all bitchy!

[mangod]

Woah, Ino actually cares about Chouji? I actually never noticed that before. :)

[Bonds]

I love that "gtfo" look Sasuke gives Kabuto.

[Toruji Ichutake]

Poor Sakura. Her heart's broken.

[C_Akutabi]

It seems half the time the first thing you see whenever Tsunade opens a door are her boobs :LOS

[TsukasaElkKite]

Aww...poor Sakura...:wtf

LAWL< half cocked :hehee

[Bonds]

Everytime Sakura reaches for her chest I always think she's gonna unzip her top.

[Denji]

A shot at Temari's legs makes me happy again! :zaru

Indeed. Just show those legs to Neji and Chouji and they'll be feeling up in no time.:hehee

[Toruji Ichutake]

It seems half the time the first thing you see whenever Tsunade opens a door are her boobs :LOSLulz, I never noticed.

[Chouji 15]

I love that "gtfo" look Sasuke gives Kabuto.

He's a little Orochimaru already!:P

[Fonz_Kakashi]

Awesome. I'll pretend that was an InoCho moment.

[Chouji 15]

If he was concious, it would be. :notrust

[Toruji Ichutake]

Long time no see, Jiraiya. =D

Naruto's going to be Jiraiya's apprentice.

[C_Akutabi]

Jiraiya's back!!! :yell

[JediJaina]

Plantman's name is a spoiler. Discussion of (or hints of) episodes beyond these two are SPOILERS!

[TsukasaElkKite]

Yay! Jiraiya's back! :wtf

[Chouji 15]

That's why I said Plantman. :zaru

[TsukasaElkKite]

That's why I said Plantman. :zaru
DUH NUH NUH NUH NUH NUH NUH NUH PLANTMAN! :zaru

[Toruji Ichutake]

We should give Plantman a codename instead.

[Chouji 15]

Lust with a 540 N?

[C_Akutabi]

We should give Plantman a codename instead.

Plantman :dupe

[TsukasaElkKite]

We should give Plantman a codename instead.
Like Plantman? :zaru

[Bonds]

We should give Plantman a codename instead.

Venus, cause he's a giant venus flytrap.

[C_Akutabi]

Was that an "un" at the end?

Those are probably holding voices anyway

[TsukasaElkKite]

OMG CLAYMAN! AND PUPPETMAN! :wtf

[Denji]

The gang's all here!:zaru

[Toruji Ichutake]

I like the music. Yay, Jiraiya and Naruto are going to be together.

Wow, Akatsuki in rainbow colors.

[Yotart]

THE WHOLE AKATSUKI YOU BIZNATCHES! BOW BEFORE THEM! BOW! BOW! BOW!



God, I love the Akatsuki. And the plant man's name is...


is...


isssssss! sr,mthgseaoe7m45tgms3t6


I like the akatsuki :nod Also if you don't wanna know mr. plant's name don't roll over my icon :S







fooled plox?

[son_michael]

Akatsuki leader's va is kakashi!

[Sea Shinobi]

OMG CLAYMAN! AND PUPPETMAN! :wtf

spoiler alert!?!?

[Bonds]

Was that an "un" at the end?

Sounded like it. Can't say who he is though, would be a spoiler.

[General Mustang]

AL voice sounds SWEET

[Zoe]

They need to widen their pool of voices.

I liked how they handled "Akatsuki D" (for the CC watchers) though :D

[Silver Fang]

I like the little bit with Kakashi sensei. He asks Naruto to forgive him (he feels so guilty).

[Jinchuriki-san]

THEIR voices were so cool, especially the Leader's and the upside down one, un.

[kyubisharingan]

eww.....they use Kakashi's VA too much...now those naruto newcomers probably think the akatsuki leader is kakashi

[C_Akutabi]

Akatsuki leader's va is kakashi!

Kakashi's the Akatsuki leader :zaru

[TekJansen]

OMG!!! LkIe there English voices rock!Was that voice Cman or Leaderman?

[TsukasaElkKite]

spoiler alert!?!?
I didn't say their names :zaru I used their codenames

[Chouji 15]

Plantman and Grey-Eye Man! Clayman and BlackSPuppetman! Papernotaman and I think I heard Moneyman and Religionman!

[kakoishii]

They need to widen their pool of voices.

I liked how they handled "Akatsuki D" (for the CC watchers) though :D

Don't think it matters much, if memory serves when they did this in japanese that just got a bunch of "fill-in" voices for the akatsuki members and then changed them. That'll probably be the case for the dub.

[Toruji Ichutake]

Was that an "un" at the end?

Those are probably holding voices anywayWow, you're very observant.

[Geg]

They need to widen their pool of voices.

I liked how they handled "Akatsuki D" (for the CC watchers) though :D
lol I liked his voice too.

They probably won't be the final voices though, like in the Japanese version. But his voice was pretty fitting.

[Ema Skye]

I liked AL's voice and "Akatsuki D" voice was ok.

[Bartlebycs]

eww.....they use Kakashi's VA too much...now those naruto newcomers probably think the akatsuki leader is kakashi

Wouldn't it be awesome if he was, though? Hey, maybe he is!;) I know M. Night Shamalyan would love the twist! :amuse

Note to Jedi: I never watched past this episode in the subs, so I have no idea if I'm spoiling anything or not ;) Be gentle

[AJMkarate717]

Hmm... Just watch, there'll be a Kakashi vs. Akatsuki Leader fight somewhere down the line (very far down). That'll send people for a spin. Hopefully they'll replace the voice of the AL (not that I don't like Dave Wittenberg; I think he's great, but they can't use Kakashi's voice actor for another major character)...

And did Quinton Flynn do the voice for the "clay man," as he was called in another post? It's actually a pretty good fit.

[Zoe]

Don't think it matters much, if memory serves when they did this in japanese that just got a bunch of "fill-in" voices for the akatsuki members and then changed them. That'll probably be the case for the dub.

I think the seiyuu are better at changing their voices though whereas EVERYBODY here knows that was Kakashi...

IIRC, they also used voice distorters in the original which helps muddle things up.

lol I liked his voice too.

They probably won't be the final voices though, like in the Japanese version. But his voice was pretty fitting.

I hope he's the final. He did a good job of working in the speaking style without making it overbearing.

[Geg]

Yeah, Quinton Flynn was "Akatsuki D" and Dave Wittenberg was the Akatsuki Leader.

There's very little chance of them being the final voices though, especially the AL's since Wittenberg is already a really main character.

[SamRH]

135 always gets to me. ;_; I was so surprised to see Shikamaru cry the first time. Even watching it this time got me teary-eyed. Honestly, he's the last person that I thought would cry. D;

[rpgman1]

The Akatsuki members sound exactly like the chevaliers in Blood+ (those who are on Diva's side). Naruto is so stubborn that Jiraiya will help him find out about the whereabouts of Sasuke.

[Fan o Flight]

Akatsuki D's voice was awsome.

[JediJaina]

Yuri's voice was epic as usual. I was taken aback by the girl comment though. Even so with that line he still did fantastic.

[E]

the akatsuki's leader voice made me cringe :S

final valley?? LOL

[Rasenganhameha]

Who was the one that sounded like Kakashi? I couldn't tell...

[Zoe]

Who was the one that sounded like Kakashi? I couldn't tell...

The leader.

[Triggerhappy69]

Such good episodes, and such a shame we won't get any as good as these ones for almost an entire year. Ah well, whaddya gonna do :noworry

Anyways:

Plant Boy- Really diggin it. I like how each of his voices were different.

Akatsuki D- Wow, never realized that Quinton Flynn would fit him. If that end sup being his official voice in the future, It'd be fine by me.

AL- Highly unlikely it's the official voice, but still good nonetheless.

Well, it's been one hell of a ride. Hard to believe we're finally here. September 10th, 2005 was so long ago, yet it doesn't feel that way right now. I won't be hangin around these discussion threads until we get to a certain point, so until then, later everyone :bye

[Mistress Glory]

O.O Wait, was Kakashi's V/A seriously born in South Africa?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Wittenberg

*feels stupid asking this*

And yeah, I heard his voice a lot in those episodes..

[Demon Wind Shuriken]

I loved how these episodes were handled. Very Emotional.

Although I would have liked it if they kept Final Valley as the Valley of the End.

Not because Final Valley sounds bad, it's just because Valley of the End has a better ring to it.

Oh well I still like that place, regardless of what it's called.

[Rasenganhameha]

The leader.

got it. Thanx.

So who would've thought that Jiriya had a similar battle with Orochimaru. But I wonder what that fight was about? Also, it was great to see a different side of Shikamaru. He'll be a great shinobi because of this. No doubt.

[Kaitlyn]

Well, I must say that the dub did a very good job with this series, especially towards the latter part. The VA's were superb, and I was especially surprised with the voice choices for certain Akatsuki members...

[E]

still can't get over the leader's voice :apathy

[Geg]

;13506039']still can't get over the leader's voice :apathy

It's not the final voice, Jesus get that through your head :facepalm

[Silver Fang]

They will probably change the AL's voice later on.

[Denji]

Quinton Flynn was the upside down one? Yeah, I guess they just used the voice actors they already have to fill in for now.

[Sonikku Tilt]

OMG
I want to watch these episodes right now!! Especially the akatsuki meeting! I hate Canada!!

[Tyrannos]

Ah, loved 134 and 135, too bad that was the end of canon for a while. :scry

The Cast: Did a great job as usual. :grin

Translations: Though I'm with many of you manga fans, that I wish they kept "The Valley of the End" instead of the "Final Valley", because VotE does have a better flow to it. But most likely they had to use their version due to lip flapping.

Another is when Kakashi was holding Naruto, he supposed to mention "Is it your destiny to die?" (Guess the censors didn't like that and had to be left out). :(

The Flashbacks: Seems I'm not alone, but they clearly did not match the previous scenes. Surprised they did that. Doesn't take any effort to grab a DVD and write down what was said. :P

The Akatsuki:

First off, I'm very disappointed they did not keep the "Holographic distortion" noise when they appeared in the cave and when they talked. That was canon.

And I'm not sure, but seems there was more than the 4 Akatsuki talking. Someone might want to confirm that for me.

Though I do give them a thumbs up for keeping "Plant Akatsuki"'s duel personality. :kthumb


All in all, I trust these were only temporary (like they were in the Japanese version). Because hearing the same voice actor in the same scene with two different characters is irksome. Especially when they are important.

For instance, people might've gotten the impression that one Akatsuki was Kakashi. (Like someone jokenly said in previously in the thread.).

[Kurenai6453]

Hey um I missed it so some one please tell me how the Akatsuki sounded please :)

[JediJaina]

Translations: Though I'm with many of you manga fans, that I wish they kept "The Valley of the End" instead of the "Final Valley", because VotE does have a better flow to it. But most likely they had to use their version due to lip flapping.

Another is when Kakashi was holding Naruto, he supposed to mention "Is it your destiny to die?" (Guess the censors didn't like that and had to be left out).

The Flashbacks: Seems I'm not alone, but they clearly did not match the previous scenes. Surprised they did that. Doesn't take any effort to grab a DVD and write down what was said.

Yeah I'm sure Liam didn't have writing duties on it and if Sam did well that was disappointing, but other that that I enjoyed it. The VA's certainly made up for it. :amuse

[Zoe]

Another is when Kakashi was holding Naruto, he supposed to mention "Is it your destiny to die?" (Guess the censors didn't like that and had to be left out). :(


That was a mistranslation--taking the kanji too literally.

[Geg]

Yeah, I don't remember that "destiny to die" line from the subs.

[Zoe]

The Flashbacks: Seems I'm not alone, but they clearly did not match the previous scenes. Surprised they did that. Doesn't take any effort to grab a DVD and write down what was said. :P

Oddly enough, the CC's had the correct lines.

[Tyrannos]

They might've said the right lines translation-wise, but they arn't same the same exact lines from from the previous episodes. Like when Sasuke said, "little girl", Yuri said, "Scaredy-cat."

Yeah I'm sure Liam didn't have writing duties on it and if Sam did well that was disappointing, but other that that I enjoyed it. The VA's certainly made up for it. :amuse

Yeah, it's either Sam or the third guy. :P

That was a mistranslation--taking the kanji too literally.

My mistake. No matter what, it's locked in stone now and sounds good nonetheless.

------- voice was very good Viz has the best voice acting BTW does kiba have grown-up gohan's voice from DBZ

Yes, Kiba is voiced by Kyle Hebert, the same guy who does Teenage Gohan. :)

[~Zaxxon~]

The reverse-ish blackhole thing turning into a supernova type thing (when their powers collided) was kinda cool as a plot device. I have to question the physics of how the hell that happened though. :lmao


Hey look at me, I'm trying to make sense out of anime physics. :zaru

[blueava21]

Final Valley, huh. Overall a great episode, the Akatsuki voices somewhat surprised me, but it was still good. One of them really sounded like Iruka.

[kakoishii]

Yeah I'm sure Liam didn't have writing duties on it and if Sam did well that was disappointing, but other that that I enjoyed it. The VA's certainly made up for it. :amuse

suppose, I thought it was mouth-flap issues at first but I paid close attention and all the times "final valley" was said the shot was a faraway one showing the scenery and the characters rather than close ups of their faces, in other words there were no mouth-flap's to be had, if they wanted to they could have said "valley of the end," but meh, it really was a small grip, that little girl comment irked me more, I mean seriously they didn't even need to revoice that part that part that could've just used the old audio, cut and pasted.

[Linkaro]

What's your point? For that one sentence it wasn't deep enough.

The point is ppl made the same comment with Jiriaya when he was first introduce.

Plantman and Grey-Eye Man! Clayman and BlackSPuppetman! Papernotaman and I think I heard Moneyman and Religionman!

ENOUGH WITH THE MAN! MIGHT AS WELL INTRODUCE THEM TO MEGAMAN!!!!:spaz

[Lord Raiden]

The whole fight was great and now I know how Plant guy sounds like. Both voices lol.

[Hannibal]

The Akatsuki voice that sounded like Iruka was, never mind can't say it here unless I want it deleted. Thus editing.

[Hannibal]

I am know boycotting because of the leaders voice:rant

Im sure they will change, I mean its a year from now. They didnt use the same in Japan after the fillers.

[Souten Kishun]

Nice episodes. I was hoping to see how Lee was though. I wanna see more Shikamaru and Temari stuff too :plot

[Carbon14]

Well, sometimes the voices are hit or miss. I prefer Crispin Freeman over Skip Stellrecht for Itachi.

[Axel]

Maaan.. I've been waiting to see these episodes dubbed, since it started. xD
I loooove the Sasuke/Naruto fight. Those are probably my favorite two episodes. & I have no complaints for how they turned out in the dub, either. By now the voices are fine, and I really enjoyed watching them.

Worth the wait, in my opinion.

I'm just glad they finally aired. x3

Man, I loved those episodes.

[Raiden]

Both episodes were pretty good. The voices of Akatsuki were interesting, I believe it was brought up that one of them sounds similar to Iruka.

[Rukie]

I went to a play at my old school, but I taped it. Wow. I can't believe it (no pun intended). When Naruto started, I thought it would take FOREVER to get to this point. Now that it's here, I find myself asking where has the time gone?

Very impressed with the VAs. Maile (Naruto) has become VERY emotional since the begining, the flashbacks were enough to prove that. Speaking of which... if I recall correctly, didn't Sasuke originally call Naruto a "big chicken," not "little girl?" I just don't remember that for some reason. Also, saw Temari, but I wonder where the other Sand siblings wandered off to during all of this? :sandsib

I LOVED how they handled "plantman's" duel-personality, but I agree, the other Akatsuki were given kinda generic 'bad guy' voices. I'll have to go back and re-watch the scene so I can attempt to pick out what voice belonged to who.

[Jagon Fox]

ummm it was fucking awesome...all the way up to the part where they created some glowing black ball that looked like a giant version of those minature novelty fountains. I expected that sucker to go off like a reactor, buuuut, well I was dissapointed! The last few episodes were so much better.

[NessaMoon]

The final clash... Awesome. :cry Incredible sad, but awesome. And the part where Kakashi found Naruto was heartbreaking. This would be the one time he would have to be late for something. Stupid mission. :(

Sasuke's hand-wings were pretty...weird. First time I got a good look at them. That Cursed Seal certainly did something to him. *grumbles*

Everyone's okay and out of danger. That's good at least. Loved Naruto's speech at the end to Jiraiya. Never give up. :)

I can't believe it's the end of the canon episodes. :cry

[FoxxyKat]

Sasuke: You're not hurt are you, little girl? :laugh:lmao

Love the part where they're holding hands.:love So sweet!

[Souten Kishun]

Sasuke: You're not hurt are you, little girl? :laugh:lmao

Love the part where they're holding hands.:love So sweet!

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Yeah! That part was so random. I dunno why they changed it but it was HILARIOUS.

...the hand holding was nice too :]

[JediJaina]

Pointed it out before, but a different writer can make the difference.

I mean seriously they didn't even need to revoice that part that part that could've just used the old audio, cut and pasted.


They don't do that in either version. Liam explained why somewhere in his thread about it. I might edit this post.

[Silver Fang]

This would have to be one of my favorite dubs so far. I'm glad Sasuke didn't kill Naruto.

[Shikamaru ofthe Nara Clan]

The Valley of the End has a cooler ring to it, but The Final Valley makes more sense, to me, at least.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I assume I'm not the only one that noticed during the flashback they changed Sasuke's line from "You're not hurt are ya...scaredy cat?" to "You're not hurt are ya...wittle girl?"

So they change one of Sasuke's meaningless lines? I'm confused. Oh well. Sasuke's evil laugh does, and always will, win the universe.

Such a thrilling end to canon Naruto, I must say, though I would've liked Level 2 Sasuke and One-Tails Naruto to actually fight instead of just using the Dark Chidori and Kyuubi Rasengan. Oh well.

[Cookies]

It's very unfortunate that we'll now have to wait a bit to see what happens next seeing as this arc is over and the main storyline we won't be seeing for a good loong time.

Overall, the storyline was excellent and I feel it's disappointing that it hsa to end when its getting so good.

[Ema Skye]

Yuri's voice was epic as usual. I was taken aback by the girl comment though. Even so with that line he still did fantastic.

Sasuke: You're not hurt are you, little girl? :laugh:lmao

Love the part where they're holding hands.:love So sweet!

When did Sasuke say that girl comment?

[lightningboi]

That was just hot when C.S.2.Sasuke used chidori and N.T.F. Naruto used rasengan! I can't believe that the clash of the two forces created that...THING! No.135 was pretty sad but I'm happy that everybody's OK! Oh yeah and who the heck was that guy with a half black and half white face? An Akatsuke member I presume?

[HOOfan_1]

"Widdle Gurl!"

:lmao

Didn't he say "cry baby" when that episode first aired?

[Commander Red]

In compare to the prevouis episodes, the last two were quite impressive. Both moraly and surprising.

[JediJaina]

Didn't he say "cry baby" when that episode first aired?


They used that flashback more than once. It was always "scaredy cat". Naruto said that back to him later on in Forest of Death. I don't know why there was a change.

[HOOfan_1]

They used that flashback more than once. It was always "scaredy cat".

oh yeah scaredy cat. I knew it was something other than little girl. They changed what Naruto said in the Forest of Death flashback too. Wonder if they just forgot or if they thought the were matching the lip movements better.

[Shade73]

I like these episodes especially when Naruto finally scratches Sasukes Headband. But the part when Sasuke was feeling the pain in his arm and he knelt over Naruto was kinda weird.

[Shark Skin]

Wow. Just awesome stuff. Feel bad for Naruto not being able to get Sasuke back. Oh and at the end of the episode... AKATSUKI SIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!! That guy seems interesting, half plant half man. The next episode was nice as well. A good aftermath episode. Good to see that everyone is ok. Felt bad for Shikamaru, even though he did his best he almost lost all his friends. I liked the conversation between him, Temari, and Shikaku.

[JediJaina]

Only two Akatsuki member names should be mentioned: Itachi and Kisame. All others are considered spoilers since we see the characters, but names were never revealed.

[Linkdarkside]

well i dint like that during the flashback sasuke dint called naruto scary cat and rewrite it to little girl


plantman look wierd so i gues the bunch of akatsuki are bunch of weirdoes since kisame is blue and orochimaru is super white whit snake like eyes


the art of the episodes and animation was good

and the hording hands Probably mean that they still have their bonds


the black sphere look to have been created because the curse mark charkra mixed whit the nine tails chakra changing the weather








KISS HIM FOR GOD'S SAKE! :zaruhell no i dont like Yaoi/Gay stuff :mad

[ninjaneko]

Great episodes! I really felt for Shikamaru there. And Kakashi is late once again, only this time, it's not funny :(.

Love how Orochimaru is being all creepy and Sasuke's just like, "Yeah, yeah, whatever. Gimme power." :laugh

Also, I thought the voice(s) for Mr. Flytrap were fitting, as well as the upside down guy :ninja (Nicknames for all the Akatsuki! Plantman, Sharkman, Crazy Eye Joe...who's next?).

[Sasori-puppet#66]

Those episodes were great! :)

A few changed things, but oh well.

I love the new voices. :wtf

[Fresh Fru!ts]

I love these episodes.
They're really, really touching. And I, being a complete pansy when it comes to things like this, was crying.

My only complaint was that they called it the 'Final Valley.' No, that just sucks.
And what was with Sasuke calling Naruto a 'widdle girl?' Why not just 'Scaredy cat?' Jeez.

Anyways, I loved the part where they were holding hands. It was so cute.

[Farih]

Those episodes were some of the best of the series. Emotion and action packed perfectly.

[Penkihake]

These two episodes were really good.


"Don't be impatient, un." ftw!

[Nuzents]

Didn't he say "cry baby" when that episode first aired?

yeah, they just changed it in the flashback, i noticed that too, and then when Naruto was supposed to say the same thing back, they cut it off a bit earlry and he just said, Your not hurt...

Overall, good ep, and I liked watching them again. The new voices in the cave was a bit different, but i think I like them...

oh yeah, Tamari fine ass (she was win by herself)

[Believe It!]

The first episode was gay. When they locked fingers... ugh. There also wasn't a whole lot of fighting. There was also a dub error. Sasuke called Naruto a "little girl" in the flashback when at that time he actually called him a "scardy cat".

The second episode was good though. Shikamaru was rightfully chastized. I called this last week. I knew that Shikamaru made too many mistakes on the mission, and that is why it failed. I respect that he can admit to his mistakes though. I still blame Tsunadi though. She should not have sent them without a jounin present to supervise and look out for them. That was an S rank mission, or at least an A rank. I also called the fact that the mission doesn't matter compared to the lives of your team. It may be the way of the shinobi in other villages that ninja are just tools whose lives are worth using up if it means the mission is a success, but not in the Leaf Village. People come before the mission does. Shikamaru was just lucky that they all survived.

But again, he learned from his mistakes and everyone lived, so that is what matters.

Sasuke gained some respect from me when he chose not to kill Naruto. Perhaps he didn't die in that coffin after all. But he is still a sorry loser for selling part of his soul to Orochimaru.

[Narutofangirl2]

These episodes were good, I enjoyed them. Poor Naruto all hurt like that.

[The Cheat]

I want to find which akatsuki is voiced by quinton flynn.

[Psallo a Cappella]

God, Sasuke should have kissed him. Damn.
---

In the second episode, Sakura is so sad. She's lying through her teeth, changing the subject, geez.

[Purgatory]

CHIDORI!

RASENGAN!

Fucking epic.

[Nerof50]

I want to find which akatsuki is voiced by quinton flynn.

Check wikipedia, since the two posts above mine will probably get deleated... I have to admit the Akatsuki Leader's voice was painful to hear

[Purgatory]

Dave Wittenburg...wasn't the best choice. But I can assure you that they won't have the same voices. But I would prefer Quinton as the one Akatsuki member *coughcough*

[Shark Skin]

Check wikipedia, since the two posts above mine will probably get deleated... I have to admit the Akatsuki Leader's voice was painful to hear

Yeah I thought it was ok at best. But like Painkiller said they'll probably be changing some voices.

[forgotten_hero]

I think a lot of voices will be changed.

I think the fight scene was pretty good. I just didn't like all the changes that were made.

[XNaruHina--SasuSakuX]

Everybody in the Akatsuki almost sounds EXACTLY the same.

I almost choked my sister from excitement, though. :LOS

[Believe It!]

The part where Sasuke and Naruto clash with their attacks was the stupidest thing ever. It made like a black orb in the air, then it split with light, like some sort of alien spaceship or something. Then it was all rainbowy and they were floating in mid air. Come on. That was not realistic at all. What power was holding them up? What made that weird light? Why did the splits in that black orb have a pattern to it? Lame, lame, lame.

Only episode 135 was good this weekend.

Oh... and about the Akatski, no you can't mention their names. That is spoiler. So my method here will be to talk about their positions in the cave. The one hanging from the ceiling with one eye showing sounds like he has a brand new voice actor. Sounds good. But the one who has Kakashi's voice actor either needs to be replaced, or he needs to try to sound like some else when he talks.

[Shark Skin]

And chakra's realistic?

[Tainted_reflection]

Such good episodes, and such a shame we won't get any as good as these ones for almost an entire year. Ah well, whaddya gonna do :noworry

Anyways:

Plant Boy- Really diggin it. I like how each of his voices were different.

Akatsuki D- Wow, never realized that Quinton Flynn would fit him. If that end sup being his official voice in the future, It'd be fine by me.

AL- Highly unlikely it's the official voice, but still good nonetheless.

Well, it's been one hell of a ride. Hard to believe we're finally here. September 10th, 2005 was so long ago, yet it doesn't feel that way right now. I won't be hangin around these discussion threads until we get to a certain point, so until then, later everyone :bye


True... these episodes were freaking EPIC!! :cry

I agree with everything you said.
Quinton Flynn was awesome! The 'un' was perfect!! I loved it!! :wtf

Same thing here... I'm so sad I won't get my Naruto dub weekly dosis, but what are you gonna do. Until the cannon episodes resume everyone!! :bye

The Valley of the End has a cooler ring to it, but The Final Valley makes more sense, to me, at least.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I assume I'm not the only one that noticed during the flashback they changed Sasuke's line from "You're not hurt are ya...scaredy cat?" to "You're not hurt are ya...wittle girl?"

So they change one of Sasuke's meaningless lines? I'm confused. Oh well. Sasuke's evil laugh does, and always will, win the universe.



I agree, I like VotE better, but whatever. These episodes were awesome either way.

The "widdle girl" comment: I actually liked it. I thought it was hilarious, and made of win. I was surprise, but didn't mind the change. :)

These two episodes were really good.
"Don't be impatient, un." ftw!



QFT!!!

CHIDORI!

RASENGAN!

Fucking epic.

QFT!!!

[Fonz_Kakashi]

The part where Sasuke and Naruto clash with their attacks was the stupidest thing ever. It made like a black orb in the air, then it split with light, like some sort of alien spaceship or something. Then it was all rainbowy and they were floating in mid air. Come on. That was not realistic at all. What power was holding them up? What made that weird light? Why did the splits in that black orb have a pattern to it? Lame, lame, lame.
"What power was holding them up?" Come on, man. It was for dramatic effect, it's done all the time in movies, TV shows, etc. Time "stands still" for a moment, as something really jarring happens. In this case, it emphasizes the impact, the emotional oomph, the gravity of the situation. All those years leading up to this...and for what? This is how it ends? You can see it in their faces.

Interesting thing about the energy ball that was created though. I saw Trigun before I ever saw Naruto, and in the final battle, Vash vs. Knives, they clash with their special powers and a ball is formed that looks just like that. When I saw this for the first time, I thought, "hey, it looks like Trigun!" Anyone else seen Trigun and know what I mean? Is it a recurring symbol in anime or something?