View Full Version : Kakuzu .vs. Tsunade
-Deidara-
01-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Rules:
No Limitations
No Prep Time
Both Bloodlusted
Battle Setting:
Chuunin Exam's Stadium
U Decide :LOS
FoxSpirit
01-05-2008, 08:44 PM
I think that Tsunade could win this with the right circumstances during the fight.
-Deidara-
01-05-2008, 08:45 PM
I think that Tsunade could win this with the right circumstances during the fight.
how, her physical attacks are useless against his doton armor :LOS
littlebeep
01-05-2008, 08:47 PM
Kakazu would rip her heart out, but she has no useful powers whatsoever. He tentacle-rapes.
Seriously, he even PUNCHES harder than Tsunade.
-Pain-
01-05-2008, 08:49 PM
Kakuzu Rapestomps.
Kittan
01-05-2008, 08:50 PM
kakuzu is more versatile.
Naruto expectation
01-05-2008, 08:52 PM
This would be good.
Tsunade wins in Taijutsu.
I just worry,since she is so close range, that Kakuzu could take advantage of that and fight long range while persistently using powerful elemetal jutsus. Though being a Sannin I'm sure she has a method to counter such a tactic.
Idk...probably Tsunade.
Canute87
01-05-2008, 08:52 PM
how, her physical attacks are useless against his doton armor :LOS
Yeah your quite right.
However That move she used to screw up Kabuto seems to be a "hyuuga" type move. I.e she went straight for the inside.
This might be speculation but what i think Tsunade could do is cut off the tendons leading to kakuzu's heart. That would destroy the link with the doton heart i believe.
And seeing that the doton heart is coincedentally in the same place as the normal heart would be tsunade would arm for him there.
She cuts off the doton heart kakuzu loses the iron defence and tsunade summons and pwns him with acid.
-Deidara-
01-05-2008, 08:55 PM
Yeah your quite right.
However That move she used to screw up Kabuto seems to be a "hyuuga" type move. I.e she went straight for the inside.
This might be speculation but what i think Tsunade could do is cut off the tendons leading to kakuzu's heart. That would destroy the link with the doton heart i believe.
And seeing that the doton heart is coincedentally in the same place as the normal heart would be tsunade would arm for him there.
She cuts off the doton heart kakuzu loses the iron defence and tsunade summons and pwns him with acid.
tsunade has no prep time meaning she has no knowledge of it, therefore she would of only done your reasoning if there was prep time.
therefore kuku still stomps her.
Kakuzu would simply hip out her heart and her taijutsu is useless against his armor and all of his elemental jutsus
-Deidara-
01-05-2008, 08:56 PM
This would be good.
Tsunade wins in Taijutsu.
I just worry,since she is so close range, that Kakuzu could take advantage of that and fight long range while persistently using powerful elemetal jutsus. Though being a Sannin I'm sure she has a method to counter such a tactic.
Idk...probably Tsunade.
tsunade's strength is useless against his doton armor, she fails in taijutsu :LOS.
Balalaika
01-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Kakuzu wins this.
Canute87
01-05-2008, 09:03 PM
tsunade's strength is useless against his doton armor, she fails in taijutsu :LOS.
How does she fail in taijutsu?
Much less i seem to remember sakura putting dents in the iron block that sasori sent flying towards her. I'm sure tsunade who can make bigger punches would dent stuff up too.
Plus that chakra thing i mentioned doesn't have to be prepped. I think she can use it on the spot.
Much less kakuzu can't use the other hearts to his full potential unless he takes off the cloak.
And we know when the cloak comes off you gonna die.
-Deidara-
01-05-2008, 09:07 PM
How does she fail in taijutsu?
Much less i seem to remember sakura putting dents in the iron block that sasori sent flying towards her. I'm sure tsunade who can make bigger punches would dent stuff up too.
Plus that chakra thing i mentioned doesn't have to be prepped. I think she can use it on the spot.
Much less kakuzu can't use the other hearts to his full potential unless he takes off the cloak.
And we know when the cloak comes off you gonna die.
sasori's iron block has nothing to do with kakuzu's fullproof defense.
its considered prep because tsunade dosen't know about the armor, and she would have to punch him to figure out first, than its too late, he explains and grabs her with threads, lend me your heart baby.
and the cloak coming off is for the anime/manga. this is the battledome, PNJ is non existing here.
Cirus
01-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Well Kakuzu in my opinion would win. He can stay at med to long range and attack with jutsus that are of very high level. Tsunade is a close range fighter, which puts her at a very big diadvantage. Yes Tsunade could summon her slug spit acid or split it into how ever many slugs, but Kakuzu can deal with several of his shown abilties. By staying back an fireing away. The slug when whole could only take so much damage before not being able to stay for much longer, while launching other attacks at Tsunade. It is not being able to counter a stonger jutsu but rather being able to deal with it.
the box
01-05-2008, 09:42 PM
tsunade wins
Juggalo
01-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Well, I voted Tsunade merely because Jiraiya went out with such grandiose justsus (all I had known him to do before he fought Pein was summon frogs) that I'm pretty confident Tsu could pull out a whipping stick even big enough for Kakuzu. Tsu's never put her life on the line that I've seen, so there's no way to say what she'll pull out if she went all out.
Though from what we've seen thusfar, yeah, tentacle-rape-fest. Kakuzu slaughters.
Yellow
01-06-2008, 12:49 AM
Kakuzu's variety of jutsus and elementals would be too overwhelming for Tsunade. Kakuzu tentacle rapes.
materpillar
01-06-2008, 02:15 AM
As long as kakuzu doesn't get into a fist fight he wins. Iron skin wouldn't do shit against her punches other than act as compactor for his inner organs. Elemental spam will wear her down long enough so he can rip out her heart though.
tGre teh Disleksik
01-06-2008, 02:23 AM
Elementals hit, she heals. Elementals hit again, she heals again... she gets tired. Tentacle rape is in session.
Kakuzu wins.
Death-kun
01-06-2008, 02:32 AM
Elementals hit, she heals. Elementals hit again, she heals again... she gets tired. Tentacle rape is in session.
Kakuzu wins.
Quoted For Truth. :zaru
Kakuzu was tanking and catching punches from a fully released Nibi who was destroying buildings with her physical attacks.
If he can take on a fully released Nibi Jinchurriki, I'm not convinced that Katsuya can do much. And Tsunade isn't as fast as him by a long shot, AoE elemental ninjutsu plus his tentacles and superhuman strength are indeed going to be a bitch to deal with.
Likely Kakuzu.
tGre teh Disleksik
01-06-2008, 02:44 AM
Unless Tsunade sprouts some rin'negan and counter-rapes... her outcome just doesn't look that good >_<
Sailor V
01-06-2008, 02:48 AM
Yeah, looks like it's in the bag for Kakuzu. He wins.
tGre teh Disleksik
01-06-2008, 03:09 AM
Katsuya aint doing shit against Napalm lava.
Kakuzu would probably win this. Kakuzu did fight the 1st and lived after all.
For all we know, Shodai could've beaten down Kakuzu and thought he had killed him and the latter simply played dead.
tGre teh Disleksik
01-06-2008, 03:17 AM
Shodai's death was never really played upon so we won't know.
He could have grown old and died, or at the hands of a shinobi. Im guessing he died at the hands of a shinobi as his brother took over in his prime age as Nidaime.
Rubicon007
01-06-2008, 02:08 PM
From what we've seen, Kakuzu has a load of advantages over Tsunade. As someone said earlier, Kakuzu probably even punches with similar power as Tsunade due to his doton armor.
Kieuseru
01-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Tsunade doesn't stand a chance.
Sōsuke Aizen
01-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Kakuzu beats her bad.
Depends on what Ranshinshō does to him.
If it doesn't work, Tsunade gets dominated.
If it does work, Kakuzu is fucked.
maximilyan
01-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Tsunade.. I'm basing this off of experience and and reputation. i dont think we've seen everything tsunade has to offer while we've seen everything kakuzu has to offer. and form what we've seen its pretty close. Meaning that if tsunade shows all her cards, you can assume they'd be better than kakuzu's. tsunade ftw
I must say, my initial reaction to the thread title was "Tsunade would lose", the reasons of which have mostly been stated in this thread already.
Now, to suggest that Kakuzu is any better at taijutsu that Tsunade is completely unfounded. Sure, Kabuto was able to dodge most of Tsunade's direct attacks, but think of this; even Shikamaru (a Chuunin) was able to dodge Kakuzu's sneak attack.
This leads me to believe that their speed and accuracy are around about at the same level.
A full-on kick from Kakuzu (while his earth heart was still alive), although it was able to smash Kakashi through numerous trees and injure him badly, did not kill him. Whereas Orochimaru, in full knowledge of Kabuto’s special self-healing ability, stated that one punch from Tsunade would be enough to kill Kabuto. This leads me to believe that, although their strength appears to be of a similar level, Tsunade might be a tad stronger.
Kakuzu’s Doton armour might be somewhat of a double-edged blade in this battle. That is to say, when he activates it, although he gets extremely powerful defence (perhaps enough to nullify Tsunade’s strength, if he were able to repel Chouji’s massive meat tank), he doesn’t bother evading attacks. It is as if he feels he doesn’t need to dodge or evade attacks when he has this Doton armour on.
Tsunade, on the other hand, doesn’t have much in the way of defence, and will probably be doing her best to dodge if it comes down to taijutsu. In fact, she states that a medic nin’s number one priority is to evade the enemy’s attacks.
If Kakuzu were to activate Doton, if they swing blows at each other, Tsunade would at least try to dodge, whereas Kakuzu would allow himself to get hit. After all, they have no knowledge of each other’s abilities.
After landing perhaps a couple of hits on Kakuzu, Tsunade would quickly realise that some sort of special defence was responsible for his thick skin. Additionally, if Tsunade manages to dodge Kakuzu’s attacks, and see the effect it has on the terrain (for example, he misses and hits a wall?), she’d also realise that his attacks are nearly as deadly as hers. What has happened in the past when Tsunade’s attacks were nullified, and her enemy’s attacks were almost deadly? She used Ranshinshou. Regardless of whether or not she realises Kakuzu’s armour is a Doton ability, I believe she’ll use Ranshinshou on him.
What of Kakuzu’s tentacles? If Kakashi was able to cut them with Raikiri, perhaps Tsunade’s strength could pull them apart? And if Kakuzu does wrap his tentacles around Tsunade’s neck or limb, she’d probably do what she did to Orochimaru and haul Kakuzu towards her, then hit him with a Ranshinshou.
As someone previously mentioned, it really depends from here on out what effect Ranshinshou has on him. There’s little debate as to whether or not he’ll get hit by Ranshinshou – as far as we know, Ranshinshou doesn’t requires handseals, doesn’t create some electric glow around her hand, and therefore looks relatively like a normal hit. And for normal hits, Kakuzu wouldn’t bother dodging them, even from Tsunade. Ranshinshou is almost certainly a Raiton, and even if it isn’t, we know that it involves Tsunade converting her chakra into electricity (which is basically the same thing). Kakuzu will be particularly affected by it.
Perhaps the battle will end there? Perhaps not?
However, at this point, I’d like to say – it’s likely Kakuzu’s four other hearts (since it appears they have bodies of their own, made out of black goo) wouldn’t be affected by Ranshinshou. Only one body – or heart – would. When the Wind, Lightning, Fire and Water elementals come out all at once, Tsunade will definitely be hard-pressed. I daresay Katsuyu might not be helpful in this situation, because of the sheer size, power and number of attacks Kakuzu’s elementals can pull off, if all four attack at the same time Katsuyu would probably be ripped to shreds. I mean, come on, one Fuuton attack from Shukaku was able to affect Gamabunta pretty badly.
The rest of the battle is also very iffy. If Tsunade can Sozou Saisei through the damage of the elementals, she might be able to chase them and smash their masks before Kakuzu retrieves them. If she can’t, she loses.
Assume that she activates Sozou Saisei, heals through all the elemental damage, and manages to smash a couple of them down. She’d have to deal with Kakuzu in his ‘final form’ – that hairy-looking tarantula-thing. At this stage, I don’t know what will happen, but his tentacles are simply far too numerous and thick for Tsunade to do much when he’s in this mode. I suppose this is where the tentacle rape occurs >_>
Maybe she'll have a chance at this stage, but as far as we know, she doesn't have any attacks that could completely obliterate two or even three of Kakuzu's hearts in one go.
Yes, so I wrote all of that to say that Tsunade would lose. *head-in-hands*
Lezick
01-06-2008, 08:13 PM
Kakuzu would obliterate Tsunade in no time.
Mike Hunt
01-06-2008, 08:37 PM
Tsunade.. I'm basing this off of experience and and reputation. i dont think we've seen everything tsunade has to offer while we've seen everything kakuzu has to offer. and form what we've seen its pretty close. Meaning that if tsunade shows all her cards, you can assume they'd be better than kakuzu's. tsunade ftw
LOL. EXPERIENCE AND REPUTATION :rotfl. Kakuzu was around the time of Shodai which was roughly 60 years ago and he has encountered many different shinobis as well. And Reputation??? Tsunade's only reputation is known as the 'Legendary Sucker' as her skills worn off when she was gambling instead of being a 'Legendary Sanin'. Kakuzu underestimated Naruto but Naruto almost could have gotten killed as well if he wasn't saved.
Kakuzu had to battle a lot of people and manage to do some decent damage while Tsunade got disabled by a kid who collects Yu Gi Oh.
masamune1
01-06-2008, 09:05 PM
I'll go with Tsunade.
I have no doubt at all that her strength is more than sufficient to smash his armour to pieces, and if he rely's on that he will get his head smashed in.
Sakura is weaker than her yet she is strong enough to annihilate a boulder 30 times her size-his armour has'nt impressed me as much. I'm also unconcerned about his Tentacles since if he tries that I can see her simply gathering them in her arms and throwing him off to the Moon, or beating him up like a dusty cushion.
In terms of knowledge, she most definitely has him beat. Prep-time is irrelevant-he might know her from reputation but she knows him both from the report she received from Team's Asuma and Kakashi and the fact that she did his freakin' autopsy. It is now part of her standard knowledge.
He will have no surprises for her. Some stuff she knows, however, like Genesis Rebirth, he is probably unaware of.
In terms of speed, for the most part despite the power of his Jutsu's most people were able to avoid them, and his sneak-attack on Kakashi was down more to the fact that Kakashi was'nt expecting it, and the fact thathe used Shunsin (while Kakashi was running normally). Tsunade is also an expert in evasion and that will serve her well.
Tsunade's always underestimated around here-she can take him on, and she can win. Even without Katsuyu and her Acid-spit of Doom.
Euraj
01-06-2008, 09:23 PM
Freakin' Kakuzu couldn't even beat Naruto. I don't know how he's supposed to beat the Hokage.
MasamuneX7
01-07-2008, 06:47 AM
Freakin' Kakuzu couldn't even beat Naruto. I don't know how he's supposed to beat the Hokage.
If you want to simplify it that way, Tsunade considered Kakashi for next Hokage. Kakashi also stated that Naruto was stronger than himself. By your reasoning, Naruto > Hokage.
Grimmjowsensei
01-07-2008, 12:12 PM
Kakuzu would tentacle rape tsunade. Tsunade has no overall advantage over Kakuzu. I am definitely sure that Kakuzu is faster. Besides Tsunade doesn't have elementals, or jutsus which can pierce through Kakuzu's armor. She could summon her slug but I am not sure If that'd help. Kakuzu can blast a hole through that slug with a powerful elemental. He is superior to Tsunade in every way, I really can't come up with a defense for Tsunade.
KyuubiYondaime
01-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Wow, I think Tsunade is so under-rated & Kakuzu is so over-rated. I mean, Kisame laugh his ass off when Kakuzu die, and he say he is shit compare to a Sannin. You do a math. Sannins are being under-rated so far. We havent even seen Orochimaru use any Ninjutsu his strongest field, and Tsunade hasnt gone all out either. Tsunade would summon Katsuyu and that alone a big boss summon would present its difficulties to Kakuzu. Furthermore, Tsunade cant die in combat because of her seal. She can always heal herself too and her strentgh is epic.
Munboy Dracule O'Brian
01-07-2008, 05:41 PM
He has access to all elements, he has those threads, with his Doton armor he can out last her Taijutsu, so Kakuzu wins
Wow, I think Tsunade is so under-rated & Kakuzu is so over-rated. I mean, Kisame laugh his ass off when Kakuzu die, and he say he is shit compare to a Sannin.
http://img4.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000353/011.jpg
No mention of the Sannin here
You do a math. Sannins are being under-rated so far.
No, just 1 of them
We havent even seen Orochimaru use any Ninjutsu his strongest field, and Tsunade hasnt gone all out either.
We'll see Orochimaru's power through Kabuto and Tsunade's power before her death
Tsunade would summon Katsuyu and that alone a big boss summon would present its difficulties to Kakuzu. Furthermore, Tsunade cant die in combat because of her seal. She can always heal herself too and her strentgh is epic.
Isn't Kakuzu's Katon, Raiton and Fuuton long ranged, and S-Ranked, and isn't it unusual for the opponents to survive his Fuuton
Matto-sama
08-02-2008, 03:08 AM
If you want to simplify it that way, Tsunade considered Kakashi for next Hokage. Kakashi also stated that Naruto was stronger than himself. By your reasoning, Naruto > Hokage.
NARUTO IS NOT BETTER THAN HOKAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tsunade could summon up katsuye and do some acid damage to kakuzu(his armor) and could heal any wounds that she gets from him.
Itachi's Apprentice 3
08-02-2008, 01:10 PM
Tsunade would be raped immediately by Kakuzu. He has long ranged attacks which Tsunade would have no defense against.
-Deidara-
08-02-2008, 01:19 PM
NARUTO IS NOT BETTER THAN HOKAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
naruto kn4 can kill tsunade.
Matto-sama
08-02-2008, 02:42 PM
naruto kn4 can kill tsunade.
maybe...... but KN4 wasnt able to beat oro and jiraiya managed to seal the kyuubi powers(temporarily). if KN4=kage level or even >kage level than there is NO way that BASE naruto or even KN0 is even close to kage level
-Deidara-
08-02-2008, 02:46 PM
maybe...... but KN4 wasnt able to beat oro and jiraiya managed to seal the kyuubi powers(temporarily). if KN4=kage level or even >kage level than there is NO way that BASE naruto or even KN0 is even close to kage level
KN4 was going to kill Oro, if it wasn't for what Yamato did.
and there is no maybe, KN4 would kill Tsunade in one blast, you overestimate her, she got pwned by kabuto a Jounin, who is on the same level as Kakashi.
Tsunade is the weakest of the Sannin's and Kakuzu would destroy her, her physical attacks are useless because of his doton armor, her summoning would be destroyed by his S-Class elemental fusion attacks. and her healing abilities wont help, because he will just tear her heart out.
Han Solo
08-02-2008, 03:56 PM
Honestly Suu summed it up for me. I agree Tsunade is pointlessely underestimated, but she is smply outmatched here.
Wait till she fights he final battle, though, and I have no doubt she could utterly rape Kakuzu.
durtycheese
08-02-2008, 04:10 PM
kakuzu wins, he has too many hearts and to many elemental jutsus for tsuande to handle. she wont be able to keep up the healing, and kakuzu is a mid to long range fighter with all those tentacles, tsuande cant get close.
durtycheese
08-02-2008, 04:11 PM
maybe...... but KN4 wasnt able to beat oro and jiraiya managed to seal the kyuubi powers(temporarily). if KN4=kage level or even >kage level than there is NO way that BASE naruto or even KN0 is even close to kage level
kn4 made oro run for his life... it Did beat oro. and it almost kill jiraiya...
Matto-sama
08-02-2008, 06:07 PM
kn4 made oro run for his life... it Did beat oro. and it almost kill jiraiya...
he was playing around until his body kicked out on him. but it didnt kill jiraiya. my point is kage level opponets can hold their own against KN4. and KN4>>>>>>>>>>>base/KN0 naruto. so naruto is not kage level.
-Deidara-
08-02-2008, 06:08 PM
he was playing around until his body kicked out on him. but it didnt kill jiraiya. my point is kage level opponets can hold their own against KN4. and KN4>>>>>>>>>>>base/KN0 naruto. so naruto is not kage level.
it was going to kill oro either way, same for jiraiya, and base naruto will be kage level after his senjutsu training.
Matto-sama
08-02-2008, 06:12 PM
it was going to kill oro either way, same for jiraiya, and base naruto will be kage level after his senjutsu training.
maybe, but he still won't be more powerful than the sannin in base form, but thats all irrelevant. the point is naruto is not nearly kage level in base form NOW or when he fought kakuzu
-Deidara-
08-02-2008, 06:17 PM
maybe, but he still won't be more powerful than the sannin in base form, but thats all irrelevant. the point is naruto is not nearly kage level in base form NOW or when he fought kakuzu
he will be more powerful than sannin in base form, hes the main character. Kakashi stated that Naruto has Surpassed him already, hes well on his way.
and your point has nothing to do with Kakuzu .vs. Tsunade, where as Kakuzu Wins.
Matto-sama
08-02-2008, 06:20 PM
he will be more powerful than sannin in base form, hes the main character. Kakashi stated that Naruto has Surpassed him already, hes well on his way.
and your point has nothing to do with Kakuzu .vs. Tsunade, where as Kakuzu Wins.
naruto was able to defeat kakuzu and tsunade>>>>>naruto.
besides i think naruto>kakashi is just BS hype for naruto. if naruto was to fight kakashi he would get raped!
-Deidara-
08-02-2008, 06:24 PM
naruto was able to defeat kakuzu and tsunade>>>>>naruto.
besides i think naruto>kakashi is just BS hype for naruto. if naruto was to fight kakashi he would get raped!
naruto didn't beat kakuzu, he injured him, after kakuzu was already severly injured.
and it dosen't matter what you think, kakashi wouldn't lie inside of his own mind.
the only BS is you and your pathetic posts, your just mad because tsunade isn't unstoppable, because she got pwned by Kabuto, and she gets beat by Kakuzu, Itachi, Pein, etc....
durtycheese
08-02-2008, 06:36 PM
he was playing around until his body kicked out on him. but it didnt kill jiraiya. my point is kage level opponets can hold their own against KN4. and KN4>>>>>>>>>>>base/KN0 naruto. so naruto is not kage level.
he was playing around with kn3 wtf makes you think he was playing around with kn4 when his greatest defense was broken and his body gettign ripped apart... yea he was palying around....
oro admitted the kn4 could kill him so he RAN. yes i agree it didnt kill jiraiya, but it almost did...
Roland
08-02-2008, 10:20 PM
Until Tsunade shows more than summoning Katsuya, super human strength, Ranshinsho, and Genisis Rebirth, Kakazu is going to stomp on Tsunade, hard.
While Tsunade's super human strength will give her the ability to dodge by jumping up really high and allow her to perform an effective offensive, it won't be working agianst Kakazu here. With his doton armor, I feel Kakazu could take a couple of hits from Tsunade directly before even being hurt, due to the fact that he was hit with a FRS and still alive afterwards. That, at least, says something major about Kakazu's Doton Armor. That being, you need a powerful, piercing jutsu to penetrate it. With her super human strength, I feel the pressure Tsunade exerts upon Kakazu would be more broad and unfocused, so it wouldn't be breaking the armor directly.
Limited to close range, Tsunade is going to have to over power and out speed Kakazu, an Akatsuki member capable of fighting Shodai. Whether or not he won, that feat is still very impressive to me. With the need to land multiple hits with her super human strength essential, Tsunade may wear down before she even breaks the doton armor and is able to effectivly hurt Kakazu. This is all incredibly iffy, since Kakazu's threads may stop Tsunade's close range attacks in their tracks once she moves in on an offensive.
Katsuya, although a boss summon, isn't that impressive. Kakazu's elemental spam, which desemated an entire forest, should be able to deal with Katsuya after a round or two of blasts. The acid was to say the least, slow. I don't feel a spray of acid from Katsuya will be hitting Kakazu, the main reason being it's slow speed. The other reason being that Kakazu posses a fuuton heart, which may effectivly negate any acid spray back upon Tsunade herself.
Genisis Rebirth won't be lasting too long, since Kakazu can simply spam fuuton jutsu to keep Tsunade at bay until she runs out of chakra. It is simply a battle of attrition, in which Kakazu will surely be the victor.
Gspot
08-11-2008, 10:42 PM
When Tsunade's true strength is revealed, I'm confident she'll be deservingly elevated to the level of Jiraiya.
But even now, while Tsunade has only shown a little and Kakuzu has went all out - IMO Tsunade would beat Kakuzu. She has -
1) The unrivaled monster strength and medical ninjutsu to take out hearts and easily destroy tentacles.
2) Super-jumping ability to evade and Katsuyu to defend/counterattack against Kakuzu's elemental attacks.
3) Souzou Saisei in case she takes lethal damage. If she activates Souzou Saisei, she's at a nice advantage.
I wonder how Ranshinsho would work on Kakuzu.
Should it function perfectly upon first hit, Kakuzu would be a sitting target to Katsuyu's acid.
I also don't see what Kakuzu would do to deal with a high jump followed by an air summon of Katsuyu.
Hollow'd Heart
08-11-2008, 11:02 PM
Tsunade wins if she uses Mitosis Rebirth and Ranshinsho right off the bat.
Rescuebear
08-11-2008, 11:08 PM
When Tsunade's true strength is revealed, I'm confident she'll be deservingly elevated to the level of Jiraiya.
But even now, while Tsunade has only shown a little and Kakuzu has went all out - IMO Tsunade would beat Kakuzu. She has -
1) The unrivaled monster strength and medical ninjutsu to take out hearts and easily destroy tentacles.
2) Super-jumping ability to evade and Katsuyu to defend/counterattack against Kakuzu's elemental attacks.
3) Souzou Saisei in case she takes lethal damage. If she activates Souzou Saisei, she's at a nice advantage.
I agree, if Naruto and Kakashi can beat him, Tsunade should be able to with moderate ease...
Mégas Strategos
08-12-2008, 05:56 AM
From what we've seen of Tsunade - she has nothing to counter Kakuzu's elementals and no I don't think super jumping will help that much. Depending on the distance Kakuzu rapes Tsunade with ease or with difficulty - Katsuya will be hurt by the S-ranked elemental fusion attacks and Tsunade won't be able to get close. If she does get close and has healed herself, Kakuzu's Iron skin combined with his tentacles which have a longer reach then Tsunade will also make a worthy close combat foe - she'd also have to kill all 5 hearts, FRS took out 3. We also have no idea how ranshinshou will work but considering that the masks can act as different entities, I believe the effectiveness will be limited (Kakuzu's body is not exactly normal). Kakuzu could also just get one of his arms underground - and later trap or surprise Tsunade - or use it to survive.
Truepotential
08-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Kakuzu stomps, his shunshin is so fast that Kakashi couldn't even react to it, Tsunade's reaction time probably isn't even on Kakashi's level.
Katsuya won't do shit, Kakuzu casually crushed the Nibi, a Bijuu. Plus, he has the firepower in his AoE attacks to destroy Katsuya.
Kakuzu decimates her to the ground.
NarutoWinsByDefault
08-12-2008, 12:05 PM
I dont see her punching skin steel and being fine after, she has shown us nothing to prove she wont be anything more than a a mere hinderence...
atomsk156
08-12-2008, 02:20 PM
Kakuzu will take this
Roland
08-12-2008, 02:39 PM
When Tsunade's true strength is revealed, I'm confident she'll be deservingly elevated to the level of Jiraiya.
But even now, while Tsunade has only shown a little and Kakuzu has went all out - IMO Tsunade would beat Kakuzu. She has -
1) The unrivaled monster strength and medical ninjutsu to take out hearts and easily destroy tentacles.
2) Super-jumping ability to evade and Katsuyu to defend/counterattack against Kakuzu's elemental attacks.
3) Souzou Saisei in case she takes lethal damage. If she activates Souzou Saisei, she's at a nice advantage.
1- What medical jutsu has she shown us that would be effective in taking out hearts or by-passing Kakazu's doton armor? From what I've seen, the only offense manuever she has is her super strength, Katsuya, and Ranshinshou, all of which may be ineffective against Kakazu, who's speed was faster than Kakashi's. Furthermore, Tsunade's strength is hardly unrivaled. Kakazu himself is a strength beast, bashing down the fire temple wall with his fist as well as fighting Nibi with his pyhsical form. The same Nibi which was destroying buildings and such.
2- She can jump high....so she can dodge anything Kakazu throws at her? What is stopping Kakazu from attacking her after she jumps in the air. Afterall, if she jumps so high, it is going to take her a reasonable amount of time to come back down to the earth. If Kakazu spams an elemental attack at her to have her jump, he redirects his masks to fire at her when she is in the air, leaving her with no way to dodge. Jumping is certainly a bad idea against a long ranged, elemental fighter such as Kakazu.
3-It only lasts for a period of time while draining her overall life force. Kakazu has countless ways to keep her at bay and literally let her kill herself before he takes any lethal damage himself.
durtycheese
08-12-2008, 02:53 PM
kakuzu tentacles woudl rape tsunade not to mention his elemental attacks which would overkill. he also has 5 hearts lmao tsunade has nothing in her small arsenal that can beat kakuzu.
Breeze
08-13-2008, 03:39 AM
Kakuzu wins. The amount of Jutsus he as on his "Menu" including his elements is just to much for Tsunade to take, imo.
Gspot
08-13-2008, 06:56 AM
Tsunade's reaction time probably isn't even on Kakashi's level.
Are you shitting me? Tsunade is physically on a whole other level above Kakashi.
Katsuya won't do shit, Kakuzu casually crushed the Nibi, a Bijuu. Plus, he has the firepower in his AoE attacks to destroy Katsuya.
You're inventing stuff, friend. We don't know the specifics of that fight, but we know that it was Hidan who ended it (probably by suckering the Nibi with his immortality jutsu). Secondly, even if Kakuzu landed a heavy elemental hit on Katsuyu... Katsuyu has shown the ability to shrink, enlarge, and burst into little slugs and reform into another slightly smaller but still gargantuan monster. Who can spit acid on a boss-summon scale.
Truepotential
08-13-2008, 11:10 AM
Are you shitting me? Tsunade is physically on a whole other level above Kakashi.
A stronger overall, better reaction time, lol wut? Is this a joke?
How is Tsunade faster than Sharingan Kakashi? Huh?
You're inventing stuff, friend. We don't know the specifics of that fight, but we know that it was Hidan who ended it (probably by suckering the Nibi with his immortality jutsu). Secondly, even if Kakuzu landed a heavy elemental hit on Katsuyu... Katsuyu has shown the ability to shrink, enlarge, and burst into little slugs and reform into another slightly smaller but still gargantuan monster. Who can spit acid on a boss-summon scale.
In the fight, I think it was quite clear that Kakuzu did the main work, while Hidan just helped. Anyways, what's seperating going to do? If the slug seperates, than the AoE jutsu will hit the smaller slugs, I don't see what seperating is going to do.
Kakuzu can burn the damn thing down with Katon + Fuuton spam.
mednin
08-13-2008, 02:26 PM
I'm going to say Tsunade, she is the hokage.
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