Chobits

[mary no jutsu]

i think chobits is one of clamps best works. for the people that have never read chobits its about this country guy named hideaki that goes to tokyo(this is the future) in tokyo everyone has a persocom a personal computer in the shape of a human well hes really por and really dumb and sadly cannot even afford a laptop. well one day coming back from work he finds a persocom in th garbage. shes all broken and doesn't know anything. well he takes her home and a bunch of funny stuff happen. at first it seems like shes just a broken down persocom but then she slowly starts showing special abilities and she might just be something alittle more

i love this series cause its so funny and heart warming and the music is good to

[theoneandonly]

Chobits is about the persocons, right? I like the series too! It's hillarious but at some parts of the anime it's kinda sad.

[mary no jutsu]

yeah i totally cried (spoiler) when that one persocom of the bakery store owner totally goes in front of the truck to take the blow that was just heart breaking

[theoneandonly]

But the ending is nice, though. When Hideki screams for Chii to come back...

[EMPRA]

I really like this anime itz funny,romantic and sad...

[SakuNeko]

I kinda like Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles more than chobits

[souske_05]

no,no chobits is the best work of clamp, but angelic layer is next to chobits. the anime of chobit's is awsome! same w/ angelic layer

[Gekkou]

:D no,no chobits is the best work of clamp, but angelic layer is next to chobits. the anime of chobit's is awsome! same w/ angelic layer

Actually, some say that Angelic layer was a precursor to Chobits. The main guy in AL (the doctor) is said to be the landlady's husband in Chobits.

As for Chobits, I love it. Actually, love really doesn't explain it. CLAMP does a masterful job of mixing humor and serious themes into this work. Notice how it starts off incredibly light-hearted and humorous and begins to get more dark and serious the more Chii (or should I say Elda? ;) )learns about the world?

I still prefer the manga, as it explains a lot more of what goes on in the show (such as the whole disk thing) and Zima and Dita have a bigger role. Whoot~! :D

[OPTIMUS PRIME]

ahhhh chobits. my first series that I watched as an anime watcher. was a good series. meh! later

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[Jiraya_Ero_Senjin]

Also the First series of Anime that I ever watched. The humor is really good, and the serious line underneath is also something to think about.
It's really a good anime, I like it allot. Once every 3years or something I watch the series again :D .

[ahheng21]

yah chobits is nice.... i bought the manga after watching it. chii is soooooooooo cute and innocent

[Sketchy]

Chobits is a masterpiece, i really like the anime. Pantse!!! Chi is so funny!! :D

[Teclis]

I quite liked the anime chobits, I saw it a lan party i was at with my pals the first epp and well I wanted to see more, I have seen all the serice whenmy pal gave me alone of the dvd box set and it was a realy cool anime more on the girly side but still wachable by guys lol, there was some confusing points in it but I got the jist of it and had a good lath.

[realest-killa]

it was so girlyyyy...i cant believe i watched this show...but it was a cool story line...the ending was the best haha

[Charlie_K]

i dun like the over perverted stuff like hideki having a crush on chii, shimizu, his landlady and co-worker who's younger than him. hes 18 for crying out loud.

[Naruto_Uzumaki]

i havent seen it cuz i dont know where 2 download it jeje :D

can somebody tell me...
(in bittorrent)

[tklown]

Chobits is awesome, one of my favorite animes

[Naruto_Uzumaki]

as i said can somebody give me the link

[ahheng21]

suprnova.org has them

[Naruto_Uzumaki]

thanks ahheng 21

[palabok]

I hated it, but it IS one of CLAMP's best works (and that isn't really saying much)

[santosj]

I really think the series is messed up! Good series, like Neon Genesis is good. Good story but everything else is just wack. I mean come on, how can a human love a robot? Just not possible. What? Will the baby be part human, part robot.

[Daemon]

she cant have any kids... open your minds guys... its anime afterall, ya?

[santosj]

Yeah, I mean, the guy will have to become asexual because well, you know. Ha ha, I could never do that if I was in his position. *Deleted*

[Kineas]

It's a series about the meaning of true love, how it transcends beyond just plain coupling, age barriers, death.

I would explain why, but it's just gonna be chockful of spoilers. :)

It doesn't take a romantic to be touched by the story, unless pictures of scantily clad humanoid robots is too much of a distraction from the storyline. :)

[Crucifixation]

I didn't manage to read the end. Pah. In terms of illustration, Chobits can easily be one of CLAMP's best works, but the storyline just didn't appeal to me. I am a realist. HumanxPersosom to me is just wrong. So I kinda anticipated the outcome and didn't buy book 8.

[Gekkou]

I really think the series is messed up! Good series, like Neon Genesis is good. Good story but everything else is just wack. I mean come on, how can a human love a robot? Just not possible. What? Will the baby be part human, part robot.


That's the entire plot of the story. Hideki has the exam same feelings as you when the story starts out, but in turn he starts to develop feelings for Chii.

**SPOILER** For those who want to know, highlight the white text

At the end Freya (known as "Dark Chii") appears at the end of the anime and informs him he cannot have sex with Chii because that would turn her off and all her memories would be lost. Hideki yells that he doesn't care and wants Chii back, thus professing his undying love for her. Also, he wouldn't have to become Asexual because reproduction was the last thing on his mind at that moment. Gotta develop a sensitive side, guys, it's not all about the sex. Especially in CLAMP work. :cool:

And its anime, guys. It's not supposed to make sense. Monsters coming from Cards (CCS), Living female robots (Saber J, Chobits), people shooting fire from their stomachs (Naruto)... None of it is supposed to make sense.

There's my two cents :p :D ;)

[Crucifixation]

Now I finally know the reason why I didn't really have the desire to finish the series.

[santosj]

It was a good series and don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it but the ending was unrealistic. I guess only a female would be able to enjoy it. It was artistic and that is why I enjoy it. Just think how much Neon Genesis is made fun of because of the craziness introduced in the characters. The emotions and story are the best parts but the other parts like that chick being his mom and part of the angel are just strange.

I seem to find a justification for everything and I justify watching Chobits because of the interesting and unique story (at the time it was the only robot x human series I had seen and now I have seen more in the genre than I care for). Now Armitage the Third I can understand because she can have children and with all the powers of a robot. I guess that is also why I like Ghost in the Shell.

[Gekkou]

It was a good series and don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it but the ending was unrealistic. I guess only a female would be able to enjoy it. It was artistic and that is why I enjoy it. Just think how much Neon Genesis is made fun of because of the craziness introduced in the characters. The emotions and story are the best parts but the other parts like that chick being his mom and part of the angel are just strange.

I seem to find a justification for everything and I justify watching Chobits because of the interesting and unique story (at the time it was the only robot x human series I had seen and now I have seen more in the genre than I care for). Now Armitage the Third I can understand because she can have children and with all the powers of a robot. I guess that is also why I like Ghost in the Shell.


err... I am a guy, and I loved the ending (manga was better though.) It is a shoujo anime, but that does not make it exclusively female oriented. Chobits very well might be one of my favorite (if not the favorite) anime. Armitage was able to have children with the same powers as her, but she is a biomechanical android, not a persocom. Persocoms had no biological parts. CLAMP's goal was realistic love in an unrealistic world

Also, with Ghost in the Shell, Motoko (Major) is not able to have children. Her body is completely cybernetic and requires maintenance every few months, but there are no biological components in that "shell" besides her brain and her ghost (hence the name, Ghost in the Shell.)

[Kineas]

I'm male too.
Chobits appealed to me because,
1. I'm a CLAMP fan.
2. The storyline is unique to me (Don't read much mecha stuff)
3. The story focused more on the meaning of love rather than just blatant fanservice.
(There was still quite some fanservice, I won't deny it, but what about those sections about the illustrated storybooks drawn for Chi? Those were rather philosophical in nature, and not a minor plot device thrown in by CLAMP on a whim. If anything, that would be solid evidence that Chobits wasn't just a sappy love-themed fanservice-orientated manga that're infesting bookstores everywhere.)

[Gekkou]

I'm male too.
Chobits appealed to me because,
1. I'm a CLAMP fan.
2. The storyline is unique to me (Don't read much mecha stuff)
3. The story focused more on the meaning of love rather than just blatant fanservice.
(There was still quite some fanservice, I won't deny it, but what about those sections about the illustrated storybooks drawn for Chi? Those were rather philosophical in nature, and not a minor plot device thrown in by CLAMP on a whim. If anything, that would be solid evidence that Chobits wasn't just a sappy love-themed fanservice-orientated manga that're infesting bookstores everywhere.)


I agree wholly. And on the issue of the fanservice, if you were to look closely, the majority of fanservice was in the beginning episodes through a lot of the fillers. These all come from Chii's ignorance and curiosity, not just random perversion. As she learns more about life, the fanservice significantly diminishes.

I'm another Huge CLAMP fan, and the theme of the meaning of love shows up in many unrealistic manga and anime. For example, in clover, it's a man who falls in love with an angel. Card Captor Sakura deals gives implications of a relationship forming between Tomoyo and Sakura (generally shunned, ne?) This is not all CLAMP writes though, examples being X and Tokyo Babylon, and Clamp School Detectives.

[NinjaJedi007]

i love chobits! its so funny how motosuwa reacts to every situation. hes such a nerd thats what makes the series great. hes just a normal guy yet such extraordinary things come into his life. he doesnt know how to deal with the stuff going on its really enjoyable to watch. i still need to see the last couple episodes tho! i should get it for x-mas!

[Miso]

It's not bad and also very funny.
I better like the mysterious work of X/1999 by Clamp though.

[Jaggan]

Not to be bitchy..but Chobits sucked beyond belief. After hearing "chi" 500 times i got a bit cranky and irritated. I made it till ep 10 ..and then i just junked the whole damn file.:yelling Bleh.. girly girl anime. :sweatdrop

[Sketchy]

Not to be bitchy..but Chobits sucked beyond belief. After hearing "chi" 500 times i got a bit cranky and irritated. I made it till ep 10 ..and then i just junked the whole damn file.:yelling Bleh.. girly girl anime. :sweatdrop

Whahaha, it's so annoying that it is funny :P .
It's a cool anime though, the further you go the more serious and dramatic/mysterious it gets!
It's great fun I think :amuse

[NinjaJedi007]

the further you go the more serious and dramatic/mysterious it gets! It's great fun I think :amuse

i agree. the furthest ive made it so far is episode 20 and things are getting a lot more interesting. im sure it gets better and better in the episodes to come! it is girly girl a little bit but i think its still a funny and interesting anime!

[kevin77]

It's a good comedy romance anime. Really similar to Dears.

[Foxfire15]

A very good Manga/Anime IMO...though a bit perverted(And to think, it's written entirely by females...) However, I would recomend it to anyone. it has it's funny parts, serious parts, and sad parts. a good mix of all of them. I will agree that the Manga ending was much better than the anime though. anyhow.......just for kicks, another good anime(not CLAMP) is Slayers......*points to sig*...but, heh whatever. n_n

[Eden Prime]

I feel like this anime reflects much of my life. How i want to be treated, the morals i want in my life, the kind of friends i want, the atmosphere i want, and everything. I'm very passionate about this anime. Do we have many fans of this anime on here?

[Kira Yamato]

Yeah, i love this series. It's my favorite Clamp series, even over Tsubasa Chronicles and Card Captor Sakura. :amuse

I actually watched all 24 episodes and the specials last month.

[Nekomimi]

:blink

Wow...ok this is one series I havent heard anyone talk about in the longest time xD.

I really do luv it, but the manga is way better to me...The whole pantsu episode in the anime was just so...odd... :oh

[Kira Yamato]

:blink

Wow...ok this is one series I havent heard anyone talk about in the longest time xD.

I really do luv it, but the manga is way better to me...The whole pantsu episode in the anime was just so...odd... :oh


OMFG...I was thinking of making a gif of that scene with Chi walking down the street saying pantsu, pantsu, panstu, pantsu xDD

And Hideki's best friend and the teacher..wow :S

But that show has to make you wonder sometimes...about persecoms and human relationships :oh

[Prince Leon]

OMFG...I was thinking of making a gif of that scene with Chi walking down the street saying pantsu, pantsu, panstu, pantsu xDD

And Hideki's best friend and the teacher..wow :S

But that show has to make you wonder sometimes...about persecoms and human relationships :oh

That's just how deep it was. Love transcending the norm and bridging the supposed gap between man and machine. ^^

Still though, I can never get over the location of Chii's ON/OFF switch. xDD

[Kira Yamato]

That's just how deep it was. Love transcending the norm and bridging the supposed gap between man and machine. ^^

Still though, I can never get over the location of Chii's ON/OFF switch. xDD


And only one person should be using that ON/off switch :wink

I find it weird that the girl Hideki was working with and the guy that Chi was working with had a previous relationship and I'm even more shocked that guy married a persecom =O

A felt so sad what happened to him though...because it must have been heart breakin to see her breaking down like that :cry
and then the clincher was what she done to save him =/

[LOVEscream ♥]

It's a good anime.. but a bit... sick :oh I've seen it, I only managed to download the English dub version >.<" But the manga is indeed better ^^ I have to say that CLAMP is the best *points at DN Angel, Cardcaptor Sakura and Tsubasa Chronicle*

[Kira Yamato]

What's wrong with humanss dating persecoms? :yell

xDDD

I downloaded the dual audio version. and watched it subbed because the dub was annoying -___-

My favorite Clamp titles:

Chobits
Tsubasa Chonicles
Card Captor Sakura

[LOVEscream ♥]

What's wrong with humanss dating persecoms? :yell



A kind of philosophic question, don't you think? :huh What's wrong with humans dating persocoms? A lot... it decreases human dignity :notrust

[Sieg]

Long while since i've seen it. Getting nostalgic :-(

In the anime they never really stated the type of relationship they would have like in the manga did they?

[Baka91]

this might sound stupid but how do you start a thread???

[Kira Yamato]

A kind of philosophic question, don't you think? :huh What's wrong with humans dating persocoms? A lot... it decreases human dignity :notrust


Dignity...no v_v

The person may lose touch with humanity and to a certain extent grow distant with his fellow man. But he won't lose dignity. I mean love is love and it's nothing you should be ashamed of..:amuse

[LOVEscream ♥]

Dignity...no v_v

The person may lose touch with humanity and to a certain extent grow distant with his fellow man. But he won't lose dignity. I mean love is love and it's nothing you should be ashamed of..:amuse

Ok.. Maybe more specific... it decreases the women's dignity :notrust I mean, I would be very upset if my husband loves a robot more than me :oh Ok.. It's a man's dream to have a "perfect" woman, but if you look it that way you guys are cruel to your fellow human beings :noworry

[Sieg]

Women would be 'upset' with their husbands if they cheat in general. :oh

[LOVEscream ♥]

Erhmm yeah.. you're right.. but you know what I mean :oh

[Kira Yamato]

Ok.. Maybe more specific... it decreases the women's dignity :notrust I mean, I would be very upset if my husband loves a robot more than me :oh Ok.. It's a man's dream to have a "perfect" woman, but if you look it that way you guys are cruel to your fellow human beings :noworry


Yeah, but would it be okay, if they cheated with a real woman?

Women would get angry if their husbands cheated on them with the television, sports or anything else that took up a majority of their time, attention and love.

[Sieg]

Only someone really shallow would be looking for perfection in an artificial woman.

Falling in love with a persecom all of a sudden shouldn't be a problem to anyone, unless its someone who thinks it'll contaminate the human race.

[Kira Yamato]

Ok.. It's a man's dream to have a "perfect" woman, but if you look it that way you guys are cruel to your fellow human beings :noworry


Not only that but who was Hideki cheating on?

No one...that's who.

If a guy had cheated on his wife with a persecom, then he would have done it with a real woman as well. Just because there's a persecom doesn't mean you have to have a relationship with it or even buy one for that fact.

Even Shinbo relaized it, when he said Persecom or human he would have been made either ways. It wasn't the fact that the husband cheated on Shimizu with a persecom but the fact that he cheated at all.

His infelidity should be the issue...not the relationship with a persecom.

It's like saying it's wrong to cheat with someone but not with another woman? Cheating is cheating no matter how you define it :huh

[Sawako]

I'm in the middle of watching Chobits right now. This is a weird anime, and so perverted. XD But I love CLAMP so I continue watching it.

Sumomo is my favorite character! XD Although her "desu" has gotten annoying ever since my friend pointed out that she said it. ><

[LOVEscream ♥]

It's a machine for Christ's sake :oh It is saying that you're loving your computer :yell Computers aren't worth as much as human beings. Have you watched Artificial Intelligence? That's the same. I'm sorry... you're just pathetic if you look for an artificial intelligence gigolo =_= It's the same with persOcoms. Loving a "thing" is different than a human, a pet (living organism)

[Kira Yamato]

It's a machine for Christ's sake :oh It is saying that you're loving your computer :yell Computers aren't worth as much as human beings. Have you watched Artificial Intelligence? That's the same. I'm sorry... you're just pathetic if you look for an artificial intelligence gigolo =_= It's the same with persOcoms. Loving a "thing" is different than a human, a pet (living organism)


Were not talking about IRL. >_>

In fact Chi is different in the fact that she could actually come to love someone and develop feelings.

And tell me, who is Hideki or That guy who married a Persecom hurting except for themselves? It's really up to them and what they want to do. I'm not one to judge people and there beliefes v_v

[Sieg]

You'd be one of those people that would just scrap their persecom after a new version came out right?

Humans are complicated creatures. They look human, what's inside won't matter to most people, feelings just grow without you knowing. Chobits potrays that well.

[Kira Yamato]

You'd be one of those people that would just scrap their persecom after a new version came out right?

Humans are complicated creatures. They look human, what's inside won't matter to most people, feelings just grow without you knowing. Chobits potrays that well.


Yeah, it's not up to society to place a universal price tag or emotional worth on everything. It's an individual proces which is up to each person.

Some people are in love with thier careers or fame, or something else to that extent which leaves them incapable of loving another person. But as long as it isn't a persecom it's okay then??

There no different...with teh excpetion that Hideki has someone tht he could share his life with v_v

[Prince Leon]

In CLAMPs Chobits world, persecoms aren't 'things'. This is why it doesn't take place in our world. CLAMP took the issue of this same thing because humans love to put themselves over every other creation in the universe. They knew beforehand the issue of human and 'machine' relations. Persecoms aren't just computers and machines. They have living consciousness that makes them be alive. That's what makes them totally different from our lame computers and machines in our world.

Chobits puts forth the question of 'what if' our world was the same. Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing that come to life. The good would be to see open-mindness flourish, the bad would be seeing the same goddamn humans who like to de-value life because it isn't 1) a human and 2) is different. This is why most of humanity fails at life and that failing is wonderfully portrayed in fiction.

[Sieg]

Emotions of love aside, I know if my comp could talk and had intelligence, i would really have a hard time getting rid of it like any other comp before it.

[LOVEscream ♥]

Ok... Persocoms ARE things It's not living. As for Chii, she still a machine :oh Does she have a heart? Brains? No, she has a OS, chips, programs and all those kind of stuff =_=" Yes.. Persocoms are things. As long they don't have REAL feelings, I consider them as things...

[Kira Yamato]

In CLAMPs Chobits world, persecoms aren't 'things'. This is why it doesn't take place in our world. CLAMP took the issue of this same thing because humans love to put themselves over every other creation in the universe. They knew beforehand the issue of human and 'machine' relations. Persecoms aren't just computers and machines. They have living consciousness that makes them be alive. That's what makes them totally different from our lame computers and machines in our world.

Chobits puts forth the question of 'what if' our world was the same. Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing that come to life. The good would be to see open-mindness flourish, the bad would be seeing the same goddamn humans who like to de-value life because it isn't 1) a human and 2) is different. This is why most of humanity fails at life and that failing is wonderfully portrayed in fiction.

True...

It was the fact taht they were put in the same league as computers and machines in our world taht I had contention with.

I mean the fact that love was an abstract idea that was used in this anime by both persecom and human should indicate that it's not so simple as man and machine. I believe in the Clamp world, the bridge between humanity and machines are much more close and are in the shape of persecoms.

And I think the fact that humans took advantage of Chi and unfortunately showed that people could easily manipulate anything that isn't human and give them an outlet at unleshing all their hatred/curisosity and desires without feeling any regret.

Greatly put Leon :thumbs

[Prince Leon]

Ok... Persocoms ARE things It's not living. As for Chii, she still a machine :oh Does she have a heart? Brains? No, she has a OS, chips, programs and all those kind of stuff =_=" Yes.. Persocoms are things. As long they don't have REAL feelings, I consider them as things...

This is assuming a real life situation. However, this is an anime. Real life rules do not apply. Especially in a world created by CLAMP. Persecoms i.e. Chii is able to feel love to a point where she, a 'computer', can feel sad, happy and shed tears.

Of course, humans will rationalize the entire machine thing to wires and chips till the day they die. This is why shit like in the Matrix should happen sooner than later.

@Kira: Yeah the prejudice in Chobits was ugly underneath. Taking advantage of a Chii just because she's a persecom? Absolutely disgusting.

[Kira Yamato]

Ok... Persocoms ARE things It's not living. As for Chii, she still a machine :oh Does she have a heart? Brains? No, she has a OS, chips, programs and all those kind of stuff =_=" Yes.. Persocoms are things. As long they don't have REAL feelings, I consider them as things...


Real feelings?

Are you saying that birds have feelings? I mean they are living creatures, but can you clearly give a working definition of what constitutes a feeling?

I mean Chi gave a description of her feelings that was similiar to that of being in love. Her former self expressed sadness and jealousy when she fell in love with her father (creator). She visible showed sadness, joy, melancholoy and a range of emotions. This wasn't something that was programmed into her, but something that she learned and developed within her self. Yes, there was a starting point like there is with everything but once that to shape, everything else was Chi...and nothing about her experiences and feelings could be replicated. And if she was just a machine then her data should have been wiped out, but it didn't which flys in the face of logic. If she was just a machine, somethign like that should have never have happened.

[LOVEscream ♥]

As for you KY, you were asking me about Hideki. It is true that Hideki didn't really cheat on anyone by loving Chii. But when he was with (eeh.. I forgot her name.. that girl with cup F or so X'D) he actually hurted her a little by talking about Chii. Same for Suzumi (whtvr her name is X'D), she also got a little hurt 'cause Hideki liked Chii so much. I remember she was asking him the question, why men like to be with Persocoms instead of real humans.


Real feelings?

Are you saying that birds have feelings? I mean they are living creatures, but can you clearly give a working definition of what constitutes a feeling?

Yes, I'm saying birds have feelings. Swans love each other till they die. Doves love each other till they die. If the woman/man dies, the other will be depressed ---> He/She will die too, because they are lonely :noworry They are loyal too each other. Birds are fasinating :oh

[Sieg]

Hideki hurt her by talking about Chi, because she herself was hurt because of a persecom.

She thought she was a persecom's replacement, then started feeling like she couldn't measure up to a persecom's potential for perfection.

[Kira Yamato]

As for you KY, you were asking me about Hideki. It is true that Hideki didn't really cheat on anyone by loving Chii. But when he was with (eeh.. I forgot her name.. that girl with cup F or so X'D) he actually hurted her a little by talking about Chii. Same for Suzumi (whtvr her name is X'D), she also got a little hurt 'cause Hideki liked Chii so much. I remember she was asking him the question, why men like to be with Persocoms instead of real humans.


Even that girl admitted she was in the wrong. Because she felt that she was inferior to someone that guy had dated before. That happens in real life when people date and lose a wife or a girlfriend, and the new woman is afraid that she will never stack up to his first love. Please tell me what's new in this situation?

And both Shimizu and that girl wanted Hideki and Chi to be together so if they "the ones who were initially hurt" got over it and realized that their pain came did not come from the persecoms.

Shimuzu was cheated on by her husband. If I talked to my friend who was recently divorced and mentioned some girls name taht was similar to the one she was left for then she would get mad as well.

And the other girl was afraid of not stacking up to his former love. This is something that has been happening since the dawn of man. Nothing new there.
I don't see the point in which your trying to make :oh

[LOVEscream ♥]

What I said in my other posts :oh I'm just totally against that :oh Wouldn't you be hurt if you GF would cheat on you with a Persocom and actually fall in love with the thing?:huh I think that's a lot worse then cheating with a human

[Kira Yamato]

Yes, I'm saying birds have feelings. Swans love each other till they die. Doves love each other till they die. If the woman/man dies, the other will be depressed ---> He/She will die too, because they are lonely :noworry They are loyal too each other. Birds are fasinating :oh


Wait, how in the world did you come across Doves "loving" each other. They may pair up, but who says it's love? It's nothing more than a biological function that enables the species to continue living because it was "naturally selected".

Anything that you say is feelings is easily broken down to abstract terms that was created by man and is open to wide interpretation. I'll contend that Love can "only" be refined to human/human relations. But if you want to "open" it to other living things, then I'm free to include persecoms, perlowing the "Chobits anime world rules"

[Sieg]

You keep mentioning cheating.

I'm against cheating :oh

...but i think humans can love whatever they want. It doesn't affect me, and if it makes people happy, then its all good.

[Kira Yamato]

What I said in my other posts :oh I'm just totally against that :oh Wouldn't you be hurt if you GF would cheat on you with a Persocom and actually fall in love with the thing?:huh I think that's a lot worse then cheating with a human


It would be more hurt if she cheated on me with my brother or family member than a persecom.

Because family is an even deeper bond. My GF cheating on me with a persecom is no different than her cheating with some random guy on the street.

Why should it be any different? :huh

[LOVEscream ♥]

Wait, how in the world did you come across Doves "loving" each other.

What about motherlove :huh I believe every animal has that :huh And yes... animals LOVE each other.

They may pair up, but who says it's love? It's nothing more than a biological function that enables the species to continue living because it was "naturally selected".

So you're saying it's the same with humans? :amazed

You keep mentioning cheating.

I'm against cheating

Are you talking to me or KY? He started about cheating...

[Sieg]

No, you did with the husband/wife thing.

...and only a few animals are monogamous, but they're animals, so.... -_-

[LOVEscream ♥]

Aren't we animals too? :huh I mean, if you talk about Darwins theory. btw, I was talking about cheating in the anime with Suzumi-about

[Kira Yamato]

What about motherlove :huh I believe every animal has that :huh And yes... animals LOVE each other.




Nope, I don't believe in that. And the part about offspring clining to and loving thier mother is nothing more than "imprinting" :noworry

I'm just playing devil's advocate because you can extend such feelings to animals but not to persecoms. I'm not talking about machines or computers, IRL, but the anime world itself.

So, if you want to make a point against persecoms using living things then I can easily refute your claim as well.



So you're saying it's the same with humans? :amazed


Humans are able to express their thought, feelings and opinions on a level that is far above animal comprehension. Animals unfortunately, aren't able to do so..

Are you talking to me or KY? He started about cheating...

Why would I start anything about cheating?

You're the one who said that the guy cheating with his persecom was worse than cheating with another woman :S

[Sieg]

I love my birds, but they have no idea who i am... ;_;

[LOVEscream ♥]

I was talking about the anime... Then you asked me about Hideki.. Ok, maybe I'm the one who's taking it to the real world, but still.. I'm just reflecting it. :oh

I love my birds, but they have no idea who i am... ;_;

Of course they know who you are.. you are their boss :oh Dogs know who you are.. cats too i guess >.<"

[Kira Yamato]

I love my birds, but they have no idea who i am... ;_;


:lmao

I bet your persecom would have remembered you and even greeted you at the door :yell

[Sieg]

Don't know much about cats, but dogs become familiar with their owners.
It doesn't mean they love them though.

[LOVEscream ♥]

But... I think it would be fun to have a persocom for stuff X'D They can cook, shop, internet, play music (right?) and other. But not as a lover. But I'm going now... >.<" Still got some math lying here... :cry I wish I had a Persocom to make it for me :cry

[Kira Yamato]

But... I think it would be fun to have a persocom for stuff X'D They can cook, shop, internet, play music (right?) and other. But not as a lover. But I'm going now... >.<" Still got some math lying here... :cry I wish I had a Persocom to make it for me :cry


I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't fall in love with their persecoms. :S

and in terms of your math homework..they'll help, but they shouldn't do it for you :noworry

And if you don't want to fall in love with your persecom...just get a small one like Sumomo :P

[Sieg]

And if you don't want to fall in love with your persecom...just get a small one like Sumomo

Reminds me of a doujin i once saw... >.>

[Nekomimi]

What the flipping hell...How did this turn into some huge philisophical discussion. :blink

Ok im not reading all of that nonsense...Im just going to ask do you guys even remember the series clearly?

Its pretty simply put in there, atleast in the manga, that it doesnt really matter whether the coms can feel love or not...Its whether you can feel love for them.

If you can feel love for them honestly then it doesnt really matter if how they act towards you is a true expression of emotion or not. So its just a silly argument...Yes all of thier "emotions" come from a base programming no matter how complex it is and they can easily have there memories wiped. But the important thing is what you feel and what you remember. Aslong as thats there all the rest is BS nonsense because its real to you no matter what anyone else says.

And to anyone that says birds dont feel love...Ive raised alot of different kinds of birds over the years and always in pairs. When one dies the other one simply stops functioning and enters into an almost depressed state until they die.

Your going to tell me thats just a biological function they were born with...To just give up and die when there mate does? Not to me...not at all...

[Kira Yamato]

Reminds me of a doujin i once saw... >.>


I think I know which one your talking about >_>

and if something like that happens then humanity has truly failed :-(

[LOVEscream ♥]

About the anime, why doesn't any anime, except Naruto(-fillers) and some other, follows the exact storyline of the manga? Manga-ending was way better:oh

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That damn match :notrust

[Kira Yamato]

What the flipping hell...How did this turn into some huge philisophical discussion. :blink

Ok im not reading all of that nonsense...Im just going to ask do you guys even remember the series clearly?

Its pretty simply put in there, atleast in the manga, that it doesnt really matter whether the coms can feel love or not...Its whether you can feel love for them.

If you can feel love for them honestly then it doesnt really matter if how they act towards you is a true expression of emotion or not. So its just a silly argument...Yes all of thier "emotions" come from a base programming no matter how complex it is and they can easily have there memories wiped. But the important thing is what you feel and what you remember. Aslong as thats there all the rest is BS nonsense because its real to you no matter what anyone else says.

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That's what the guy who married the persecom told Hideki. I think some of the opposing argument was that even if it was one-sided and his feelings were genuine...think about everyone else and how they would be affected. At least I believe that was what the argument was when I was trying to defend my opinions.


And to anyone that says birds dont feel love...Ive raised alot of different kinds of birds over the years and always in pairs. When one dies the other one simply stops functioning and enters into an almost depressed state until they die.

Your going to tell me thats just a biological function they were born with...To just give up and die when there mate does? Not to me...not at all..


I raised birds as well, and I know very well, that one dies when the other disappears. I was 7 yrs old when my female Parakeet flew out of the house. Her male companion stopped eating aftewards and died.


If you had read all those posts, you would have known that I was playing devil's advoctae, and if you want me to refute this example you brought forth, then I'm more than glad to do so as well. v_v

[Prince Leon]

Persecoms > birds. :noworry

[Kira Yamato]

Persecoms > birds. :noworry

Quotes for truth v_v

If there's emtional attachements to birds then there very well could be emotional attachment to persecoms. And what I also notice is that the birds are fine when they stay over my friends houe for like a week, so I guess they have little attachment to people, but they die when there own kind seperates from them :noworry

[Nekomimi]

Heh no thanks kira...That was just a kneejerk rant. I have absolutely no interest in ever debating with anyone about whats "real" and whats not when it comes to emotions and love.

Everyone has their own ideas and thats fine because there is absolutely no way to disprove or prove anything that has to do with the authenticity of emotions. Its all nebulas stuff that you cant back up with a single fact.




Sigh...anyway...this has gotten alittle silly over a anime heh. But I do highly reccomend that anyone that hasnt read the manga should. I enjoyed it alot more then the show. :amuse

[Kira Yamato]

And to think it all started today with me saying I love the anime XD

I even like this anime over Dear S :oh

[LOVEscream ♥]

It's not thát good =o

Anyhows:

Chobits Artbook (http://kawaiiheavens.net/tracker/torrents/%5BKHS%5DChobits_Artbook.torrent)

It's good ^_^

[Kira Yamato]

Thanks for the BT Link ^_^

and DearS had an annoying OP. >_>

I'm your slave :S xDDDD

And the main character pissed me off every chance he fgot so that's probably why I like Chobits a bit more

[inuyasha2597]

i like both the anime and the manga the anime is pretty close to the manga yet i still like it too bad hideki didn't lose his viriginty

[Kira Yamato]

The fact that Hideki was a virgin and everyone could tell it by just looking at him was hilarious xDD

Meh...I don't see him as not losing his virginity at the end of the series as a bad thing. It was kinda secondary to the storyline v_v

[FullMetalBoy]

Hi Everybody.
Well,i finished watching chobits, but i still have some more questions:
1.How did Chii got to the garbage?
2.Is there any more persocons of the Chobits series exept Freiya and Eruda(Chii)?
3.Why the connection between Chii to the of the persocons over the world is dangerous?
Thank U.

[Kira Yamato]

Hi Everybody.
Well,i finished watching chobits, but i still have some more questions:
1.How did Chii got to the garbage?
2.Is there any more persocons of the Chobits series exept Freiya and Eruda(Chii)?
3.Why the connection between Chii to the of the persocons over the world is dangerous?
Thank U.

1.They never went into that explanation in the anime. I'm not sure if it's addressed in the manga.

2. As far as I know they're the only ones.

3. That one still kinda weighs on me. I don't remember the exact reasoning behind it.

[Sintaku]

Hi Everybody.
Well,i finished watching chobits, but i still have some more questions:
1.How did Chii got to the garbage?
2.Is there any more persocons of the Chobits series exept Freiya and Eruda(Chii)?
3.Why the connection between Chii to the of the persocons over the world is dangerous?
Thank U.

1. Never explained in anime.
2. Don't think so.
3. Well she could make them all into killers, that would be a big problem. Think about it. She can practically change anything on every single persocon arround the world.

Check out this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobits

[Finvarra]

*bump for good series*

Just finished watching it, it was a very nice mix of fun/love/panic/adventure..... etc etc.

Well worth a watch.

(for throughs thinking man this guy is watching to much anime at the momment I am not very well currently and some what bed bound so its about all I can do lol.)

[Narutofanboy161]

1. Never explained in anime.
2. Don't think so.
3. Well she could make them all into killers, that would be a big problem. Think about it. She can practically change anything on every single persocon arround the world.

Check out this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobits

I tend to disagree with your choise 1.
Chii's mother (cant remember her name, god knows how long ago i watched this) said she wanted to forget about her family and got rid of chii, not realizing that someone would take her out of the trash.

[Levithian]

Anybody Watch Chobits? I found this CLAMP anime to be very enjoyable even as its not the usual type of anime I watch. I did not see a thread on the series so I'm making one.

[RetroElectro]

I liked Chobits. Liked it enough to buy the series anyway, and the manga.
I usually like whatever CLAMP does, and Chobits is no different. It wouldn't be my favorite CLAMP series, but it was pretty cute, nonetheless. Prefer the manga, though.

[Hype]

millions of years ago

try Dears its the same concept

[~Shin~]

I've seen it. I liked it overall but that relationship between the teacher and the student almost ruined it for me. The whole thing was so damn forced IMO.

Though Chi was very enjoyable.

[IchiTenshou]

I watch every anime of CLAMP
so I cant miss Chobits
really great anime

[Levithian]

I watch every anime of CLAMP
so I cant miss Chobits
really great anime

Yeah it was, and I'm a CLAMP Anime/Manga fan myself...the only thing I didn't like they made was Battle Doll Angelic Layer...I could not set through anymore than the first 3 episodes. Yet Chobits was another great CLAMP Anime, Like Tsubasa, XXXholic CCS and others I liked.

[IchiTenshou]

Yeah it was, and I'm a CLAMP Anime/Manga fan myself...the only thing I didn't like they made was Battle Doll Angelic Layer...I could not set through anymore than the first 3 episodes. Yet Chobits was another great CLAMP Anime, Like Tsubasa, XXXholic CCS and others I liked.
yah those anime are really great
but dont forget about my #1 anime Code Geass ^^
CLAMP is a part in the characters design too ^^

[Narutofanboy161]

millions of years ago

try Dears its the same concept

dude i LOVED dearS, shit was the best!! :cry

[Levithian]

Chi defined adorable, and the man/ machine thing did it for me oddly enough, raising interesting philosophical questions, Chi was just like other Cyber life forms, portrayed with this type of thing...Though this anime is really of the ''Magical girlfriend type'' Its a common theme. I would really be interested in finding another of this genre just as fun as Chobits.

[Six]

It's been a long time since I've last seen it but yeah. I've watched chobits. :amuse It has good variety to it in terms on what heppens each episode so it's really quite enjoyable.

[Jayka]

Chobits was one of the first series I saw and it really drew me into the world of anime! So it's kind of special to me. It also converted my brother into watching anime (and reading manga). :amuse

I loved the romance in it and it really made me laugh at certain points!

The only other Clamp-serie I've watched (and enjoyed) is Angelic Layer. It's fun how Chobits (the manga) referred back to Angelic Layer at some points!

[Sima]

Ahhh, Chobits...a great anime indeed...I just resently finished reading the manga, but I am on episode 11 of the anime. I find the humor and romance very entertaining, but also, Chii is one of the cutest characters I have seen in an anime/manga. She is cute down to ever last detail of her appearance and character.

[Levithian]

Ahhh, Chobits...a great anime indeed...I just resently finished reading the manga, but I am on episode 11 of the anime. I find the humor and romance very entertaining, but also, Chii is one of the cutest characters I have seen in an anime/manga. She is cute down to ever last detail of her appearance and character.

I like your Chobits, sig/Avatar.

[Kira Yamato]

No one ever checks the thread directory (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=143075)?

*megres*