The OFFICIAL Metal Thread

[forgotten_hero]

no, Pickles doesnt exist.

Pickles = Gene Hoglan

so you were kinda right XD

Bah, in my mind Pickles and Hoglan are the same person.

Dethklok had a concert?

Ya, it was a promotion concert for Adultswim or something. It was at UCLA and for UCLA students only. I hope they go on tour again, I would totally go.

[Lord Yu]

Ion Dissonance is pretty sweet.

[Trias]

Pretty technical and emotionally burning, but really, bands with mathcore and hardcore elements really bore me after a while even if they're technical and able to stimulate emotions. I guess that's just a preferance, but well.

[destroy_musick]

For anyone who's been ignoring my pimp thread, I made a black metal mixtape because I was talking to DragonSlayer about it on IRC. It's a good way to figure out if you should get any of my pimps, since a lot of the bands have albums I've pimped recently. There's also a few that I didn't pimp yet, but I will if anyone wants their music. If you want it, let me know.

That would be a good idea, coz alot of people suddenly got into my goregrind/brutal pimps when i did the Euro-Death mix XD

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Pretty technical and emotionally burning, but really, bands with mathcore and hardcore elements really bore me after a while even if they're technical and able to stimulate emotions. I guess that's just a preferance, but well.

You shut your damn mouth! :pek

I agree, I prefer melodic and emotional over cold and technical. Behold... The Arctopus is my major exception, because even though they are techical, they still managed to add a sense of emotion in it. It's heavy, without beind dark. It's almost playful.

[Effloresce]

Does anybody listen to Job For a Cowboy? :iria

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I have.

But I didn't like them, to be honest.

[Audrey]

I'm just going to reply before X sees this and say they're probably not that popular with most of the members who regularly post in this thread, myself included. I'm sure there's some people who like them, but it's probably a minority. You're more than welcome to listen to whatever you like, though.

[Lord Yu]

You shut your damn mouth! :pek

I agree, I prefer melodic and emotional over cold and technical. Behold... The Arctopus is my major exception, because even though they are techical, they still managed to add a sense of emotion in it. It's heavy, without beind dark. It's almost playful.

Behold...The Arctopus sounds like an alien invasion.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

But that's why it's so good, though!

[Trias]

You shut your damn mouth! :pek

I agree, I prefer melodic and emotional over cold and technical. Behold... The Arctopus is my major exception, because even though they are techical, they still managed to add a sense of emotion in it. It's heavy, without beind dark. It's almost playful.

What are you talking about Doc, where did I say that I prefer melodic and emotional over cold and technical? I prefer technical and emotional, instead of mediocre emotionality or plain virtuosity.

Most of the bands who lack technicality just call themselves "emotional" in order to disguise their lack of skill. :hehee

BTA just rocks, it's, like, in their veins.

Behold...The Arctopus sounds like an alien invasion.

Aliens fleed in terror after they heard it. :pek

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Fine, I'll take out "I agree" and then it'll be OK. :zaru

Yes, I think a balance is in order, or course, I hate bands that just wank... and nothing else. Behold... the Arctopus are technical, but also experimental. Dragon Force aren't. And yes, anything that lacks talent can be given the "emotional" label. :hehee

[Vongola]

Does anybody listen to Job For a Cowboy? :iria

I have in the past, they're ok.
anyone like cannibal corpse?
i just discovered em'

[Trias]

Well, Dragonforce actually has it's times, I still listen to some of their songs, like Evening Star and such, but it really bores you after a while. They had so much potential that seeing them waste it like this aches me.

P.S: damn, I'm using this avatar for like a year. I need a new one, but too lazy to do one. As well as a sig. And feeling too lazy to pimp awesome stuff as well. Too lazy to practice music, too lazy to do this, too lazy to do that... At least I'm not too lazy to sleep. :zaru

P.S 2: Lets eat Dimmu Burger. :zaru

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Pimp me something, damnit!

Change your set, damnit!

I love Demon Burgers.

[Audrey]

P.S 2: Lets eat Dimmu Burger. :zaru

Demon Burger, you mean. X3

Not all bands that lack technicality have no talent, because a lot of styles of music, such as black metal, can be played with very little reliance on technical skill with instruments. However, you have to understand how to layer sounds and create atmosphere to be effective in that department.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

She's just jealous. :hehee

[Trias]

She's just jealous. :hehee

Yes she is. :hehee

[Trias]

Double posting:

@Doc: Did you download all of my previous pimps, hmh? :pek

@Audrey: Yes, that's true for black metal, and that's also why Black Metal makes up a very small percentage of what I listen. If a genre does not rely on technicality as well as emotions and feelings, then it's just sad for that genre, what can I say. (one may say that Ambient music and Soundtracks I listen to DO lack technicality, but they have almost no potential to be technical, unlike Black Metal.)

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Not that I don't like bantering, but I'm going to have to highly Recommend Disillusion as an awesome Thrashy Prog Metal band that is amazing. Get Back to Times of Splendor. Except Audrey, she doesn't like thrash.

[Trias]

I think she DOES like trash music :zaru (no offense Audrie, but I just couldn't help doing that. Just pimp me some glorior belli. )

Btw. I'm uploading Korpiklaani.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

That's good.

I have no idea what that is. :zaru

[Trias]

Clue: Finntroll.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Sold .

[Audrey]

@Audrey: Yes, that's true for black metal, and that's also why Black Metal makes up a very small percentage of what I listen. If a genre does not rely on technicality as well as emotions and feelings, then it's just sad for that genre, what can I say. (one may say that Ambient music and Soundtracks I listen to DO lack technicality, but they have almost no potential to be technical, unlike Black Metal.)

Most black metal revolves around ambience and atmosphere, which is why it's not technical. Black metal is largely a separate entity from other metal and rock music, as there's often little or no resemblence to those styles of music depending on the band. Ambient music isn't supposed to be overly complex, because drawing too much attention automatically means it's not ambient music.

The exception would be the technically advanced bands like Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice-era Deathspell Omega and thrashy bands like Nattens Madrigal-era Ulver. Of course, we have failure bands like Watain in there who think releasing a fast, polished production album that isn't technical or atmospheric is the way to do it.

The fact that guitarists like Neige, Alexander von Monweiland and Hasjarl and drummers like AiwarikiaR, Hellhammer and Mikko Aspa exist in black metal shows that the musicians can be technical if they choose to do so. Expecting anything else is missing the point entirely.

[forgotten_hero]

Anyone here like Demons and Wizards? I think they're okay, nothing too special. Except for their song, Touched By The Crimson King.

[Vongola]

Korpiklaani are fucking win. and very similar to finntroll. ensifirum anyone?

[Trias]

Most black metal revolves around ambience and atmosphere, which is why it's not technical. Black metal is largely a separate entity from other metal and rock music, as there's often little or no resemblence to those styles of music depending on the band. Ambient music isn't supposed to be overly complex, because drawing too much attention automatically means it's not ambient music.

Most black metal revolves aroudn ambience and atmosphere? My knowledge is nowhere as much as you on that subject, but as far as I know, nearly all of pioneers and big-ones did not have any ambient sound at all. Black metal is as seperate as any other metal form, not any less, not any more. You guys should think about changing its name to Black Ambient or something.

The exception would be the technically advanced bands like Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice-era Deathspell Omega and thrashy bands like Nattens Madrigal-era Ulver. Of course, we have failure bands like Watain in there who think releasing a fast, polished production album that isn't technical or atmospheric is the way to do it.

The fact that guitarists like Neige, Alexander von Monweiland and Hasjarl and drummers like AiwarikiaR, Hellhammer and Mikko Aspa exist in black metal shows that the musicians can be technical if they choose to do so. Expecting anything else is missing the point entirely.

If they choose to do so? Ones that have skill to be technical already do show that, and if they don't, they simply have no difference from the ones that do not have. Choosing or not choosing is not the point here. It doesn't mean whether you have skill or not unless you show it. I know only a few of those names, and I can easily tell ten times of that number of technical players from some certain other metal genres, which just point out the fact that Black Metal is one of the least technical metal genres.

I've already said that Ambient music does not need to be technical as well, so when it shifts to the ambient, the need of technicality lowers as well, but then, the amount of "metal" does shrink as well, and there's no point in stating that expecting technicality from some ambient-based songs of that black metal band is absurd. It's of course absurd, it's hard to say it's even metal.

It's like calling some unrelated stuff metal, and then say that it differs from other genres. Seriously, that shouldn't have been called metal in the first place if that's the case.

Anyone here like Demons and Wizards? I think they're okay, nothing too special. Except for their song, Touched By The Crimson King.

They have an unique sound that you can tell any time of the day, and that makes them indeed quite special. A very good combination of Iced Earth riffs and Blind Guardian bombasty, Demons & Wizards are nothing but special, if you're not comparing them with the bands they originated from.

And, being as good as it is, Crimson King (not TbtCK, that's the album name) is just another good song of their. Many people agree that first album was much better than the second, and even though I disagree, songs like Fiddler on the Green, Whistler, Heaven Denies, Tear Down The Wall from first album are all very special songs. Fiddler on the Green is one of the most emotional songs you can find out, and lyrics are indeed very deep. Actually, if you track it down, you can find the story behind it, which is very sad, and just... too... how can I say, that's a reason to make music. It was one of my greatest inspirations once... And second album has very good songs like Down Where I am, Terror Train, Crimson King, the Gunslinger, etc...

They have an unique sound, and I think that makes them unique amongst a sea of bands that use the very similar kind of sounds and styles.

[Audrey]

Most black metal revolves aroudn ambience and atmosphere? My knowledge is nowhere as much as you on that subject, but as far as I know, nearly all of pioneers and big-ones did not have any ambient sound at all. Black metal is as seperate as any other metal form, not any less, not any more. You guys should think about changing its name to Black Ambient or something.

The earliest ones like Bathory are based heavily off the emerging British thrash style. The uprising of bands in Norway sought to separate themselves from other metal bands by wearing corpsepaint and playing different music. The guitar sequences they use are based on tremolo picking, which is the same style that lends that ambient edge to shoegaze playing. Shoegaze has a lot of parallels with black metal because it's a vast departure from rock music and it relies on ambience as a primary means of carrying itself.

You can hear it very much on Burzum's music and De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas by Mayhem. Burzum would incorporate heavy use of keyboards, and nearly all black metal bands since Burzum have been influenced by Varg's ambient parts and hypnotic style of guitar playing. There's no need to play technical music if you play to create atmosphere. Most of the music is still heavy, and often aggressively played, but it relies more on atmosphere than any obvious kind of complexity.

Bands like Darkthrone would play music based largely off crust and punk music, which also isn't metal and isn't complex. Darkthrone also showed that extremes in lo-fi production can be both a curse and a saving grace at the same time. Many bands have adopted a very anti-commercial approach to production and aesthetics, with mixed results.

If they choose to do so?

If a band chooses to play a technical style of music, they will. This would of course depend on them having the ability to play it. There's a lot of bands who try to play music like this, but can't. Certain styles of black metal limit the technicality since they rely on layers of sound more than complex musical sections. That's not to say that black metal bands are all able to play technically complex music, because many of them can't. The most common styles of black metal revolve more around repetition than complexity. It's one of the least complex metal genres because it's supposed to be exactly that. It's largely a reaction to the bombastic playing style of other bands, kind of like punk being a reaction to the rock styles of the 1970's.

I've already said that Ambient music does not need to be technical as well, so when it shifts to the ambient, the need of technicality lowers as well, but then, the amount of "metal" does shrink as well, and there's no point in stating that expecting technicality from some ambient-based songs of that black metal band is absurd. It's of course absurd, it's hard to say it's even metal.

Like I said, it's such a separatist genre of music that most of it hardly resembles other metal and music. Aside from ambience, there's definitely presence of a lot of fast, hard sections that definitely sound like metal. I'm not implying it's any better than any other kind of music. I was just using it as an example of music that can be played effectively with little or no technical complexity. Despite the lack of technicality, most bands that play other styles of music would probably be hard-pressed to play this kind of music because it's such a departure from anything they play.

Bands like Deathspell Omega and Peste Noire are definitely metal-based bands.

Seriously, that shouldn't have been called metal in the first place if that's the case.

I didn't name the genre of music, and I dislike it being associated with other more typical styles of metal because there's really no similarity in most cases. There's nothing I can do about it, though. I'm not trying to argue with you. Like I said, I was just making an example.

[Trias]

In short, you're trying to say you're just jealous? :zaru

[Trias]

Double Posting:

Quo Vadis is probably the band I've listened to most this month.

Here's why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ciJcksiEU

(Gosh, one of my friends got to meet with all the members in one of Kataklysm's the Road to Devastation tour concert, she even got two drumsticks from Yanic and have her everything signed by the members. Geez, holy fuck, I really hate lack of awesome tours in Turkey, I can't get enough of concert goods... )

[Audrey]

In short, you're trying to say you're just jealous? :zaru

If anything, I'm sorry that the other bands can't play music that I think is cooler. Not to mention that there's enough technical black metal bands to satisfy me.

[Trias]

Take it easy, it was just my own two cents.

[Audrey]

I already told you that we aren't arguing because I said so. It was obviously a joke. X3

[Trias]

Which means you're really jealous? :LOS *runs like hell after seeing Audrey taking a bazooka out of her pocket*

[Audrey]

Stop being silly and check out Andacht by Lunar Aurora. I pimped it you know where. I'm pretty sure you'd like that one.

[Trias]

Double-posting: For those who are interested, I uploaded Korpiklaani to my thread, but I'm too lazy right now to make a post about it. You can see its link on the first post. Doc, you should especially check it.

[Trias]

Really Double Posting This Time:

...I couldn't even double-post, why thank you. I think I'll exactly do what you say there and try it, a german friend of mine had told some stuff about them long time ago, but I hadn't even remembered its name till now, good that you mentioned it. Downloadin'.

Hmm.

[Bonten]

Went to see Orange Goblin (http://www.myspace.com/theorangegoblin) last night, was some intense stuff, really got the crowd going.

Recommended if you haven't listened to them.

[destroy_musick]

Orange Goblin are much love from this side <3

[DragonSlayer]

So I got The Pax Cecilia's Noveau today.

And it's awesome as well.

[Catatonik]

Korpiklaani rule.

Huntin is going on
we are a part of the wilderness

Hunting is going on
only the fast will survive
in the forest we prowl
looking hard for deers
Hunger croaks in our stomaches
our eyes like the wolves'

We run after meat as the possessed
and we kill without pity
we rejoice and we laugh when the deer falls
hunting's more than just killing for the food.

Hunting is going on
we are a part of the wilderness

Hunting ist going on
only the fast will survive
Away they will not get, those four legged
not even the smallest one
we live in the forest here only fast ones live
only strongest will survive

And the way he pronounces wilderness gets me every time.

[forgotten_hero]

Which song is that? It's on the albulm Voice of Wilderness right?

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Trias, I love you.

[Aldrick]

hai guyz

I just started listening to Nightwish.

[Perverse]

Nightwish's music is a little cheesy for my liking, but that's just personal opinion. That's just me.

I haven't spun Riverside's Rapid Eye Movement for a while, I should do that.

[I]

Try the band Jesus on Extasy...

[Trias]

Trias, I love you.

I do love Trias as well, what a coincidence?! :zaru

[Lord Yu]

Nightwish's music is a little cheesy for my liking, but that's just personal opinion. That's just me.

I haven't spun Riverside's Rapid Eye Movement for a while, I should do that.

It's not just you. Nightwish is cheesy.:zaru

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Nightwish is just plain lol.

They are, however, better than Epica. Not that says much, but it certainly is a milestone for them.

Dark Suns new album should be out soon. :3

[DragonSlayer]

Dark Suns new album should be out soon. :3
Nice, didn't know they were working on a new album.

[Trias]

Nightwish is actually pretty much decent if you can cancel Tarja's stupid voice out. And I sense an Epica undermination here? Even though I like only a handful of bands that combine brutal vocals and soprano-ish styles (the once awesome Theatre of Tragedy being the lead) I know lot about them and I can easily say that Epica's instrumental work is much higher than standarts of its own genre, but those brutals are just meh, as well as soprano-ish vocals.

[Audrey]

I need to upload some of the good black metal bands with clean and harsh vocals. Most bands who do that in the genre fail pretty hard, but some of them are really good.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Nice, didn't know they were working on a new album.

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17586

:3

Nightwish is actually pretty much decent if you can cancel Tarja's stupid voice out. And I sense an Epica undermination here? Even though I like only a handful of bands that combine brutal vocals and soprano-ish styles (the once awesome Theatre of Tragedy being the lead) I know lot about them and I can easily say that Epica's instrumental work is much higher than standarts of its own genre, but those brutals are just meh, as well as soprano-ish vocals.

Well, it was more of a personal dislike, rather than an analytically musical one. I just don't like that style of metal, to be honest. They just stagnate, and do nothing else with their music. (Saviour Machine <3) I just don't like they style, or the bands themselves. I do like "I Wish I Had An Angel", though. :awesome

I need to upload some of the good black metal bands with clean and harsh vocals. Most bands who do that in the genre fail pretty hard, but some of them are really good.

Please do.

[Trias]

Gods Gamma Ray rocks so much <3 Anyone who doesn't like them is automatic fail. All this power metal h8 makes me sad when the real power metal bands have more melodic roots and creativity, as well as emotion and obviously the power than most bands that belong to other genres and its own genre. I should do a serious Gamma Ray pimp as well.

Can someone who has downloaded Korpiklaani or just have known them before write their thoughts about it? So I can use that as review material, kind of. I have so little time to do so. >> (But I have enough time to eat fast food of imperialist corporations like Burger King, oh Trias, as thin and fit as stone cold sexy he is.)

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I'm lazy.

Link me.

[Trias]

Link to what?

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Bumpage for the Shaolin Death Squad. :3

[Cax]

Shaolin death squad is goin to be spun by me quite alot now. Lovin it.

[Effloresce]

I have.

But I didn't like them, to be honest.
Ah. Well, that's your own opinion. :amuse

I have in the past, they're ok.
anyone like cannibal corpse?
i just discovered em'
I've heard a few songs. My favourite is probably I cum blood.

[Trias]

Quite busy nowadays, I can barely look at md even... Will pimp some stuff from a turkish guitar virtuoso Serdar Öztop and french prog metal band Symbyosis when I find time, I think.

[Audrey]

Serdar Öztop

I attempted finding something by that guy a while ago but all I could find was broken download links. I want it.

[forgotten_hero]

Cannibal Corpse is okay. I don't listen to them that often, but they don't have any terrible songs.

[igneus somes]

i love like all of the metal bands on this pic http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/waphy/slayer.jpg

[Audrey]

Slayer is your favorite or what?

[Peccas]

i like Lamb of god and otep :wtf

[destroy_musick]

i see some Anal Cunt in that picture. I swear to god, to people not know any other noisecore band other than AxCx? It's sad really, because AxCx aren't all that great XD

[Bleeding-Eyes]

i like Lamb of god and otep :wtf

Lamb of God is pretty sick, but their latest cd "Sacrament" is fucking horrible. :notrust

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Lamb of God is pretty brutal stuff.

[forgotten_hero]

Hmm...I see Hammerfall there. Nice variety you have there. I never really got into Hammerfall's music though. Funniest song of theirs has to be Hearts on Fire.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Needs Unexpect. :pek

[Lord Yu]

Greatest Metal video or Greatest metal video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5A0q63_gbo

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

That's because it's Meshuggah, I love those guys. :lmao

[Cheesy Bacon]

Lol, I've seen it before. The pen for a mike. xD

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88007

Oh sweet merciful Jeebus, someone hold me.

New SubMasq comin' up.

:iria

[CalRahhh]

That Meshuggah video is pure win. I also love their 'home video' that was on the DvD that came with the re-release of Nothing.

[Aldrick]

I dislike Cannibal Corpse. Is that bad?

[destroy_musick]

oh come on guys, admit it

When you hear the main riff to Raining Blood by Slayer you get a chill dont you? It's just too good for words

[Trias]

It ain't got shit on South of Heaven though. Come on, you have an orgasm when you hear Lombardo doing a short drum attack on the start of second dynamic verse of the song.

Yet Mandatory Suicide's name and concept is enough to give you one of the chillest chills ever in your spinnest spine.

[destroy_musick]

the opening drum pattern to South of Heaven is one of my favourite pieces of music ever XD

[Cell]

Lamb of God is pretty good. Randy's a nice guy.

I've been listening to Dismember lately. Great as hell band.

[Lord Yu]

oh come on guys, admit it

When you hear the main riff to Raining Blood by Slayer you get a chill dont you? It's just too good for words

It's how I fell in love with metal. Killing shit to that in GTA VC was the closest thing to heaven I have a achieved.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Wow, I really like Frantic Bleep.

I also listened to Time of Orchids.

They're pretty good, but all they do is make me want to listen to Behold... the Arctopus. :(

[Cabbage Cabrera]

All early Metal bands got me into Metal in the first place. This new underground stuff was why i never tried listening to Metal. But early Metal bands were the best and still are, there's no substitute for them. Hate me if you will...

[Lord Yu]

Last FM recommended Frantic Bleep. But they also recommended Age Of Silence...

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Um, if you don't have Age of Silence, get it now.

Fucking brilliant.

[Lord Yu]

I got half of Acceleration. (Fucking cut and run soulseekers)It's kinda boring so far.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

:pek

To each their own.

It's not extreme in any way, but it's still awesome. I've been moving back to more melodic, yet faster paced metal nowadays. Me and my silly cycles. I'm kinda done with doomy, sludgy metal for right now.

Pain of Salvation? :hehee

[DragonSlayer]

New Meshuggah leaked. <3

[Lord Yu]

I did a mental flip.

[Cell]

Discordance Axis is the epitome of grindcore. Better than all others.

[Aldrick]

No one answered my question:cry

[Audrey]

I dislike Cannibal Corpse. Is that bad?

I don't like them either, so don't worry about it. Some people might care, but it doesn't actually matter.

[Catatonik]

I dislike Cannibal Corpse.

I own Galleries of Suicide, but I only whip it out once a year to remind myself why I dislike them...

[Cell]

Galleries of Suicide is shit. Eaten Back to Life and Butchered at Birth are the best Cannibal Corpse albums. The best.

[Audrey]

Galleries of Suicide is shit. Eaten Back to Life and Butchered at Birth are the best Cannibal Corpse albums. The best.

Butchered at Birth is one of the ones I've heard, so I can safely say there's nothing in their music for me. X3

[Cell]

You like black metal, one reason why you probably don't like BDM.

[Audrey]

You like black metal, one reason why you probably don't like BDM.

Yeah, a lot of it isn't the kind of sounds I like to hear. There's plenty of brutal enough sounding black metal bands anyway if I wanted that kind of aggression and song structure.

[Lord Yu]

Brutal Death Metal makes me giggle.

[Cell]

Black metal is too artsy for me.

EDIT: Also, everyone here needs to listen to Discordance Axis RIGHT NOW.

[Lord Yu]

Links Plox.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Just about any music can make me giggle.

Every genre is full of fluff.

[forgotten_hero]

I laugh when I listen to Dethklok. Especially...um, I think it's called Fan Song. If you actually understand all of their lyrics, they can be pretty funny.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

http://www.wacken.com/en/woa2008/main-news/news/ansicht/article/neue-band-bestaetigt-opeth/ (http://www.wacken.com/en/woa2008/main-news/news/ansicht/article/neue-band-bestaetigt-opeth/)


That is all.

[Lord Yu]

I hate you wallet. I hate you.

[DragonSlayer]

I hope they'll come to Ruisrock, it's a festival here in Finland. I'm pretty sure I'll be going there this year.

[Catatonik]

BDM is fine, though in percentage terms, there is very little in my collection. I just do not care for Cannibal Corpse, and none of their albums have changed that for me.

Discordance Axis get my buddies thumbs up, so I will bite if it gets passed around...again, I think. I am sure I downloaded them at one point before, but are no where to be seen on m hard drive.

Vintersorgs last album was good, but not being able to understand any of his lyrics makes me sad....I love his pretentious intelligence...

[Aldrick]

In my honest opinion, the singer for Cannibal Corpse sucks.

Sounds like gravel:(

Dethklok is funny I believe but I can't understand 3/4 of their lyrics.

[destroy_musick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s78s_3Osnzo

I have said it, written it and even gargled it on stage. BDM is a genre you either get or you dont. There is no in-betweens. So think of that before you want to note how it sucks and remember not to take metal so seriously ;)

[Vongola]

In my honest opinion, the singer for Cannibal Corpse sucks.

Sounds like gravel:(

Dethklok is funny I believe but I can't understand 3/4 of their lyrics.
I like the gravel like quality to his voice actually :zaru
I'm currently listening to vader, they do a badass cover of raining blood by slayer, what are you guys listening too?

[Lord Yu]

I get BDM and it's hilarious.

[Trias]

BDM = :facepalm
SDM = :nod
FDM = :laugh
TDM = X3

Edit: BDSM = :nuts

[Cell]

Cannibal Corpse haters can die. :zaru

On an unrelated note, Unseen Terror is fucking awesome and kicks Napalm Death's ass in terms of crusty grind/thrash.

[forgotten_hero]

It took me a while to understand Dethkok's lyrics too. I just kept on replaying the songs over and over. It was a bit annoying then, but now I think it was worth it.

[Lord Yu]

I find them pretty easy to understand.

[destroy_musick]

lyrics sheets :awesome

[Cell]

Dethklok are really lame, IMO. Then again, all melodeath is really lame.


























'cept for Dismember. :gar

[Lord Yu]

^That's because you don't have a sense of humor.

[Cell]

I do, I just like bands with talent.

[Trias]

Yeah, and melodeath bands do lack talent, yeah? And I think it's clear that Gene Hoglan is a very talentless drummer, 3 year kids laugh at his performances.

Seriously Cell, many people dislike something this lovely elitist place here, but rarely they base their dislike on groundless claims like yours.

Dragonforce uses endless blast beasts, Deathklok is a talentless bands... what's next? Cobain was a great virtuoso? Malmsteen plays so slow? Or maybe Cell has a good sense of music and humour?

:facepalm

[Cell]

Gene Hoglan was 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000xINF INITY better in Death. Melodeath is boring to me. And Dragonforce use blast beats at times.

[Trias]

Sigh. :facepalm

[Cell]

Dethklok are just so stupid, IMO. I like death metal about gore or sci-fi or abstract ideas, not dumb parodies.

[Trias]

Sigh again. :arg

[Cell]

I like serious music. That's just me.

[destroy_musick]

death metal bands doing tongue in cheek humour on gore, surgery, sci-fi and the like is A-OK

death metal bands with a tongue in cheek humour on the death metal scene is fucking lame...

the logic is astounging really :awesome

[Trias]

The crucial point you miss, is that, seriousness of the music has nothing to do with it being full of talent or not.

If you dislike Dethklok for it being not serious, then fine.

But you said it was talentless music. And that gives me every right to laugh my ass off at you.

Not to mention that %99,9 of Melo-death bands are much more serious than Brutal Death bands, who always talk about the same br00tal shit. I won't even talk about how similar riffs of BDM bands become as their discography grows, making their songs all similar to each other, while lots of MDM bands are recognizable by their sound, not by similar melodies or riffs that sign lack of creativity.

[Cell]

Talent does not equate to how well a band plays. Yes, it's a key factor, but talent, IMO, equates to how unique a group is. Fact of the matter is that I'm not a fan of melodeath as it bores me, and Dethklok bore me. They're too generic. Sure, they can play their instruments, but what good is it if I can't tell them apart from every other melodic death metal band with an album out?

[Trias]

You are trying to say that being unique is also a part of talent and you can't distinguish Dethklok from any other Melo-death bands?

...

Well, apart from a statement ("there are only 7 notes, how can one make lots of different compositions with only 7 of them? Of course I'd steal from others.") Serdar Ortaç (a turkish pop singer) made, this was one of the dumbest music related stataments ever. Thank you.

:ı

[Cell]

Nowadays, melodeath is either melodic metalcore or some band who copy At the Gates.

[Trias]

O rly? You should've been listening a lot to Melo-Death in order to conclude that.

I know you've been not.

And we were talking about Dethklok most importantly, I don't see how they're just another band in the sea of bands. Their concept is fairly unique not even in death, but also in the whole music industry, probably.

[Cell]

What concept? All of their lyrics are just playing on death metal stereotypes. Lots of bands do that.

[destroy_musick]

Not to mention that %99,9 of Melo-death bands are much more serious than Brutal Death bands, who always talk about the same br00tal shit. I won't even talk about how similar riffs of BDM bands become as their discography grows, making their songs all similar to each other, while lots of MDM bands are recognizable by their sound, not by similar melodies or riffs that sign lack of creativity.

Wait, you're actually going to bash on BDM based on technical and writing ability? Wow, talk about whipping a tired argument?

Seriously, where has all this shit stemmed from where death metal fans have taken it upon themselves to bash BDM? I'm being serious, where the hell has it come from? I have been to plenty of shows, so so many, as well as about 4 death metal festivals. There you will have BDM play along side melo-death and TDM acts and NO ONE CARES. Do you know why? Because at the heart of it all, even beyond how "serious" a band takes themselves, the aim of the game was to always have fun, get drunk and sing about random bollocks, no matter what style that went about doing it. Y'think BDM bands take everything serious when they call things brutal? The fact that the name was coined it's fucking hilarious enough. I mean, i know there are some BDM bands who take themselves seriously, which is a bad projection. But when i see Prostitute Disfigurement or even Psycroptic or Gorerotted come on stage in whatever get up they decide on, i know full well what to expect. The music doesnt get boring, mainly because to the untrained ear of BDM riffs do sound the same, but it doesnt get boring to me and alot of other people because it's only a single aspect of the entire experience. Aggression, anger, lots of morbid shit and just letting loose of your senses and being juvenile about it.

in the words of Madness:

"fuck art, lets dance!"

[Lord Yu]

PARTY PARTY! METAL! GORE! SEX!

[destroy_musick]

Yu, are you and me the only people that "get it"?

Also, dont get me wrong guys, i love melo-death, as well most (if not all) forms of death metal. I'm just saying, bashing BDM based on stupid lyrics and repitive riffs is like bashing ska for using trumpets XD

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I hate trumpets. :pek

Actually, I love it, but still.

:pek

...

I have nothing to contribute.

[Trias]

Wait, you're actually going to bash on BDM based on technical and writing ability? Wow, talk about whipping a tired argument?

Seriously, where has all this shit stemmed from where death metal fans have taken it upon themselves to bash BDM? I'm being serious, where the hell has it come from? I have been to plenty of shows, so so many, as well as about 4 death metal festivals. There you will have BDM play along side melo-death and TDM acts and NO ONE CARES. Do you know why? Because at the heart of it all, even beyond how "serious" a band takes themselves, the aim of the game was to always have fun, get drunk and sing about random bollocks, no matter what style that went about doing it. Y'think BDM bands take everything serious when they call things brutal? The fact that the name was coined it's fucking hilarious enough. I mean, i know there are some BDM bands who take themselves seriously, which is a bad projection. But when i see Prostitute Disfigurement or even Psycroptic or Gorerotted come on stage in whatever get up they decide on, i know full well what to expect. The music doesnt get boring, mainly because to the untrained ear of BDM riffs do sound the same, but it doesnt get boring to me and alot of other people because it's only a single aspect of the entire experience. Aggression, anger, lots of morbid shit and just letting loose of your senses and being juvenile about it.

in the words of Madness:

"fuck art, lets dance!"

Ok now you've done it.

I tell you where the hell it stemmes from; it stemmes from the same fucking place where whole power metal bashing stuff stemmes from. Yu and you (wtf?) are the only ones that understand you just need to have fun? Well, if I see any of you bashing power metal, saying cheesy again, I'll gladly quote this. And you know what? I was not bashing BDM for their lack of technicality or writing ability. Hell, I don't even state they lacked technicality. I had just stated that not liking melo-death for the claim that melo death bands are talentless but liking BDM while they don't have half of that writing ability and talent. I'm going to fucking clear this once again, I just stated that, I did not see that as a negative point. Yes, have your fun, drink beer and play "rape-fest" with the nearest girl there, I could not care less, even though I dislike most of BDM and do not find it talented compared to lots of other genres, I do not state that as a negative point. What I said, was the absurdity of not liking melo death, saying they're talentless, but liking BDM.


Also, dont get me wrong guys, i love melo-death, as well most (if not all) forms of death metal. I'm just saying, bashing BDM based on stupid lyrics and repitive riffs is like bashing ska for using trumpets XD

Just like how bashing power metal for long epic melodic solos and melo-death for melodic structures and similar guitar sounds?

And untrained ear my ass, changing a few notes then calling it a different riff trick is a good one, I should say. Sorry, but it's their nature to sound same, when they build their songs around riffs, not melodies. You can only get so far with riffs, hence the reason you don't see many virtuosos playing riffs instead of melodies. And yes, since genre's based on riffs, dwelling about it does not make much sense, but just like how I dislike most of Black Metal for their lack of technicality, mediocre concepts and same kinds of musical thoughts, I can dislike BDM for that very reason. And I can laugh my ass off when someones calls Melo-Death talentless, sounding all the same, then listens to BDM without same concerns for thsoe things. I think you just missed the whole convo of Cell and me or just wanted to see some action in the MD, Dest. Sweet merciful gods, what a ridicilous argument, you guys have done it again.

:/

[Trias]

Double Post: Lets flame Trias, bitches. :LOS

[CalRahhh]

Is Decapitated not considered BDM? 'Winds Of Creation' was quite a technical album.

I loves me some BDM, Melo-death, AND Power Metal. So i have no standing point in this argument.

[destroy_musick]

Ok now you've done it.

I tell you where the hell it stemmes from; it stemmes from the same fucking place where whole power metal bashing stuff stemmes from. Yu and you (wtf?) are the only ones that understand you just need to have fun? Well, if I see any of you bashing power metal, saying cheesy again, I'll gladly quote this. And you know what? I was not bashing BDM for their lack of technicality or writing ability. Hell, I don't even state they lacked technicality. I had just stated that not liking melo-death for the claim that melo death bands are talentless but liking BDM while they don't have half of that writing ability and talent. I'm going to fucking clear this once again, I just stated that, I did not see that as a negative point. Yes, have your fun, drink beer and play "rape-fest" with the nearest girl there, I could not care less, even though I dislike most of BDM and do not find it talented compared to lots of other genres, I do not state that as a negative point. What I said, was the absurdity of not liking melo death, saying they're talentless, but liking BDM.



Just like how bashing power metal for long epic melodic solos and melo-death for melodic structures and similar guitar sounds?

And untrained ear my ass, changing a few notes then calling it a different riff trick is a good one, I should say. Sorry, but it's their nature to sound same, when they build their songs around riffs, not melodies. You can only get so far with riffs, hence the reason you don't see many virtuosos playing riffs instead of melodies. And yes, since genre's based on riffs, dwelling about it does not make much sense, but just like how I dislike most of Black Metal for their lack of technicality, mediocre concepts and same kinds of musical thoughts, I can dislike BDM for that very reason. And I can laugh my ass off when someones calls Melo-Death talentless, sounding all the same, then listens to BDM without same concerns for thsoe things. I think you just missed the whole convo of Cell and me or just wanted to see some action in the MD, Dest. Sweet merciful gods, what a ridicilous argument, you guys have done it again.

:/

Oh riling you up is so easy sometimes Trias :LOS

I just like interrupting you and Cell's dickwaving contest and seeing your reactions. It's fun :3

[Lord Yu]

Who here thinks that Dragonforce lyrics are lame?

They have lyrics? I thought it was just endless guitar riffs and blast beats.

[Trias]

lol endless blast beats again. :facepalm And this time, with "endless riffs" now. :facepalm

Gosh, and they say torture is banned in today's society. :arg

[manos87]

Trias knows what he's talking about. And I totally agree with what he says, unless you tease him, so he's just a weirdo smile-big smile-big



Gore and brutal lyrics in black music are mostly the ones that fit it. But one might easilly "fall in the trap" of being cliche and uninspired. It isn't clearly defined when that happens, it's up to the listener.

In the same way, there is nothing wrong in talking about dragons and heroes etc at power metal. But if you see each year 500 newly formed bands creating albums with such lyrics and names like Firesteel then you are right to be sick of them. About Dragonforce, in particular, I think that they are a bit better than the power metal horde of new talentless groups (especially in the early 00s when that fashion was at its bloom)

[destroy_musick]

but torturing Trias is one of the Metal Threads favourite activities :D

So, Trias, power-metal... sucks dont it?

:awesome

[Trias]

I hate you Kenny.

[destroy_musick]

what can i say, i enjoy being the wind-up merchant :3

[destroy_musick]

oh yes, and before i forget:

http://media.putfile.com/Raping-of-Dragonforce Dragonforce playing with their endless blastbeats, those scoundrels

[Lord Yu]

lol endless blast beats again. :facepalm And this time, with "endless riffs" now. :facepalm

Gosh, and they say torture is banned in today's society. :arg

I mentioned blast beats just for you.:glomp

[Cell]

Ion Dissonance, anyone? :zaru

[Lord Yu]

lol I'm listening to them now.

[Cell]

Lol we're scene.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I gave you the links. :zaru

[Lord Yu]

I got mine off soulseek.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Damn it.

Well, I requested it once. :(

[Cell]

Boskov, you going to Maryland Deathfest this year? It's gonna rock. Behold... the Arctopus. :D

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

If I lived in Maryland, or anywhere remotely close, I would.

But 'Rado is some distance from the East Coast, I'm afraid.

I may, however, be going to Prog Power USA. Opeth, Dream Theater and Between the Buried and Me? Yes plz.

[Audrey]

I wish cool music festivals came to Florida. :(

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

You'd think some would come to a city as big as Denver, but suprisingly it's been rather fail since I've been here. A whole lack of anything remotely interesting, at least festival wise, or major band wise is rather disheartening, considering my previous belief that big cities = more stuff.

Smaller theaters, however, come a great deal, so Unexpect it is!

[Cell]

Repulsion are gonna play. It's gonna be a fucking headbang fest.

[mystictrunks]

It's great living in a place where every major city in Cali is within two hours. Too bad the air sucks though.

[forgotten_hero]

Bah, the air quality can be bad for all I care. Besides, at most of the concerts I've been to people all around me are smoking. Or if it's in a club, then the club is at least fifty people overfilled.

[Trias]

I may, however, be going to Prog Power USA. Opeth, Dream Theater and Between the Buried and Me? Yes plz.

Don't forget the "3".

...

...fuck you, I hate you, bastard.

:cry

I wish cool music festivals came to Florida. :(

You are living in Florida... the friggin' Florida, Audrie... :facepalm I bet you'd like to live in Scandinavia, especially Norway, but it's the fucking holy Florida. One day, you'll understand beauty of Death Metal and forget about the whole Black Spooky-Spooky Metal. :pek

Bah, the air quality can be bad for all I care. Besides, at most of the concerts I've been to people all around me are smoking. Or if it's in a club, then the club is at least fifty people overfilled.

I think he meant, as in, you know, there's Arnie breathing the same air and that and this... but otherwise would be true as well. I do not smoke and I hate smoke, so I usually don't go to concerts were air conditioning is not good. Only one I defied this rule was the fucking Gamma Ray + Helloween concert here, which wasn't as bad thanks to the fact that I was in the first row. Smoking, especially in closed space is.... fail, of huge proportions.

[Audrey]

You are living in Florida... the friggin' Florida, Audrie... :facepalm I bet you'd like to live in Scandinavia, especially Norway, but it's the fucking holy Florida. One day, you'll understand beauty of Death Metal and forget about the whole Black Spooky-Spooky Metal. :pek

I doubt that highly. X3

[Trias]

Spooky-spooky-Metal Girl. :pek

[Lamb]

How typical is it that there is a live show in Pittsburgh, featuring Converge, Genghis Tron, The Red Chord and Coliseum, 2 weeks after I return to the other side of PA? :/

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I think I'm going to see Unexpect on wednesday. X3

[Lamb]

I think you aren't. :pek

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

:pek

It's a good thing you're always wrong, then, huh?

[Lamb]

:cry

yes .

[Cell]

Protest the Hero, anyone? :zaru

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

7for4 anyone? :zaru

[Lamb]

Protest the Hero, anyone? :zaru

didn't they release an album today?

I have Kezia somewhere, didn't like it that much. :pek

[Catatonik]

I like Strapping Young Lad

I mean...a lot.

No really, a LOT....

A LOT!

>.>

The New Black is actually possibly my fave SYL album, it has so much punch, edge, humour and rage that it stirs all the best (and worst) bits of me...

[Catatonik]

Yes Doc, yes you do.

I need to get No Sleep Till Bedtime I think...I keep forgetting it is not on my HD....

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

This fucking timewarp is not making it easy to figure out what exactly is going on.

[Catatonik]

This is amusing, we are being randomly scattered through the brief moments of time, bouncing hither and from like rapid weasels on a methamphetamine bender...

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

You know, I think I need to get back all my SYL, I lost it in the HD crash. :(

I hope Devy doesn't stay on hiatus for too long, I need more of his music.

[Lord Yu]

I also love SYL.

[forgotten_hero]

I really like the drumming in SYL. Or at least I did when I last listened to them a year ago. I need to get all the songs from my old computer and put it on my new computer.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I really like the drumming in Behold... the Arctopus.

Seriously, why hasn't this guy been recognized for his talent yet? Anyone who can help create a genre label as pretentious and elitist as Neo-Avant-Progressive Metal deserves an enormous amount of attention and respect. Seriously, just do it.

CHARLIE ZELENY!

[Cell]

The drummer is very good, Doc, very good. Also, Suicide Silence is good deathcore. :P

[Trias]

I really like the drumming in Behold... the Arctopus.

Seriously, why hasn't this guy been recognized for his talent yet? Anyone who can help create a genre label as pretentious and elitist as Neo-Avant-Progressive Metal deserves an enormous amount of attention and respect. Seriously, just do it.

CHARLIE ZELENY!

Charlie Zeleny is good, especiall on rem of blotted science, but well, he is certainly on not Bobby Jarzombek's level. I still don't get why the hell Ron had this guy play on it instead of Bobby. Probably Bobby didn't play because of his projects.

And how the hell creating yet another classifying term is a good thing? It's enormously dumb. Anything that's related to Ron Jarzombek is Progressive to the core, neo-avant my ass. :pek

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

But the most pretentious of genre pidgeonholing makes me laugh so hard.

Oh, and I like Zeleny more than those two. :pek

[Trias]

More than which who? Ron Jarzombek is not a drummer. Actually, if you do not know who he is in the first place, you should not call yourself a prog-whore in the first place. :pek If you just preffered a drummer to a guitarist, you should not call yourself a whore-prog as well, in case you knew about him.

Charlie is an amateur compared to Bobby, even kindergarten kids know that. Hmph. :pek

[Trias]

Double Posting: You guys should check my pimping thread. Have not written the reviews or sent the messages yet, I'll do tomorrow probably. So this is "Metal Thread's Exclusive Stuff", right now, haha. Or Inclusive. Depends. Audrie, you should especially check it, I think you were interested in it.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

My realm of prog knowledge usually doesn't reside in the super technical, so I guess you've got me there. Unless it's Fred Frith or Bill Bruthford. <3 I know mah oldies, too.

Come on Fripp, give us a winner on your new album.

[Trias]

My realm of prog knowledge usually doesn't reside in the super technical, so I guess you've got me there. Unless it's Fred Frith or Bill Bruthford. <3 I know mah oldies, too.

Come on Fripp, give us a winner on your new album.

Super Technical? Ron Jarzombek may be super technical, but that is just one of his legendary aspect. He was the guitarist of the legendary band Watchtower, one of the most influential bands of our time's progressive rock and metal genres. I really got you there, not because you didn't know some-one whose technique was very superb, but because you didn't know leading figure of a band who influenced almost every band that came after them, progressive or not.

[DragonSlayer]

New Dark Suns has leaketh. o;

[Trias]

grave human genuine? GIMMEITITII T!!U !/!51611 18186 121 66 666 312379 136218757666 6 666 66611111!!1!!!1

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

I wanteth it. :O

I've heard Watchtower, and did not like. Maybe that's why the name didn't stick, I've never been good with names to begin with, so unless it's plastered everywhere, I probably won't remember it. My brother loves Watchtower, ask him. :LOS The thing is, I only pay attention to the bands I like, and regardless of how influential they actually are, or in most cases, percieved to be, if I don't like them, I'll probably only give them a nod of attention, and listen to something I enjoy.

I wasn't aware Watchtower influenced Sun O))) :LOS

[DragonSlayer]

It's still downloading on soulseek. It will take a while so I'll send you guys a link when it's done and I have uploaded it.

[Audrey]

I sent those 2 guys a link to it, but you should still pimp it for the masses.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Thank you, Qveen. <3

I hope it's as good as Existance, or heads will roll. :pek

[DragonSlayer]

I sent those 2 guys a link to it, but you should still pimp it for the masses.
Mmmh, I just pimped Ef so someone else can do it or then I'll wait a few days. Besides, I wanna hear it first, to see if it's even worth of getting pimped. If it's as good as their first two albums, it is though. :nuts

[destroy_musick]

New Dark Suns has leaketh. o;

i grabbed it about 3 days ago :LOS

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

LOOK AT ME, IM A MOD AND I BRAG ABOUT MY ABILITY TO GET MUSIC BEFORE ALL OF YOU!

:pek

I'm downloading it was I type. :3

[Trias]

I wanteth it. :O

I've heard Watchtower, and did not like. Maybe that's why the name didn't stick, I've never been good with names to begin with, so unless it's plastered everywhere, I probably won't remember it. My brother loves Watchtower, ask him. :LOS The thing is, I only pay attention to the bands I like, and regardless of how influential they actually are, or in most cases, percieved to be, if I don't like them, I'll probably only give them a nod of attention, and listen to something I enjoy.

I wasn't aware Watchtower influenced Sun O))) :LOS

Not liking and not listening is something, but now knowing... I really got you there, Doc.

I sent those 2 guys a link to it, but you should still pimp it for the masses.

...thank you, Miss. In retaliation, I guess I'll just hide my newest pimp links from you.

i grabbed it about 3 days ago :LOS

How does it feel to be a mod that's hated by his own section members? :zaru

[Lord Yu]

I don't have any Dark Suns. Solve this problem.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

At least I admit when I'm wrong, Trias. :hehee

Yu, Audrey gave it to me, want the links?

[Trias]

Why does no one give me teh links? It's because mah pennis is bigga than yours, isn't it? You're all jealous of it. Yes, even Audrey.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

No, you're penis is obviously not worthy.

[Audrey]

Why does no one give me teh links? It's because mah pennis is bigga than yours, isn't it? You're all jealous of it. Yes, even Audrey.

I must have somehow not sent you the PM. Hold on.

[Audrey]

No, you're penis is obviously not worthy.

And your typing ability is obviously not worthy.

[Trias]

Just like you're grammar. :zaru

Seriously guys, someone give me the links. I'll send the drumstick signed by Sean Reinert, Gene Hoglan and Richard Christy to the first person that gives me the link.

Edit: Audrey beats me to it. :zaru

[DragonSlayer]

My version of Grave Human Genuine has some clipping (not much but it's kinda annoying). If the version you got doesn't have it, please gimme a link. :(

Also, this is WAY different.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

And yet you gave me the links? :zaru

Obviously your logic isn't worthy.

DS: I'm trying the RS link, is that different than what you've downloaded?

[Audrey]

My version of Grave Human Genuine has some clipping (not much but it's kinda annoying). If the version you got doesn't have it, please gimme a link. :(

Also, this is WAY different.

I didn't listen to it yet, so I have no idea. Boskov would know.


Seriously guys, someone give me the links. I'll send the drumstick signed by Sean Reinert, Gene Hoglan and Richard Christy to the first person that gives me the links.

I sent it already! :zaru

[DragonSlayer]

DS: I'm trying the RS link, is that different than what you've downloaded?
How could I know? ;_;

Gimme the link, maybe it's better.

Also seriously. Holy shit this is so different. I couldn't even tell this is Dark Suns at first.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Well, the ambiguity is killing me, DS. :arg

Hopefully it's a grower of an album, I love those.

[manos87]

Super Technical? Ron Jarzombek may be super technical, but that is just one of his legendary aspect. He was the guitarist of the legendary band Watchtower, one of the most influential bands of our time's progressive rock and metal genres. I really got you there, not because you didn't know some-one whose technique was very superb, but because you didn't know leading figure of a band who influenced almost every band that came after them, progressive or not.

You're so damn right man!!

And of course Ron Jarzombek isn't a drummer, but his brother Bobby is (and I saw him a few months ago playing with fates warning! lucky me!)

[Trias]

I sent it already! :zaru

But you and Doc sent about the same time, so I broke the drumstick in two and gave it to a nameless 3 year old kid that was playing drums in the neighbourhood.

How could I know? ;_;

Gimme the link, maybe it's better.

Also seriously. Holy shit this is so different. I couldn't even tell this is Dark Suns at first.

DragonSlayer actually downloaded Nirvana's Bleach album by accident. :zaru

[Audrey]

I bet Ray Jarzombek and Watchtower and whoever else didn't influence music I listen to much, if at all. Just throwing that out there.

But you and Doc sent about the same time, so I broke the drumstick in two and gave it to a nameless 3 year old kid that was playing drums in the neighbourhood.

Check the time the messages were sent. I bet mine is first.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

No, you're wrong, Audrey, Trias said it, so it's true.

Haven't you heard of egoism?

[Audrey]

None of you would have it if it wasn't for me, so shove off. X3

[Trias]

You're so damn right man!!

And of course Ron Jarzombek isn't a drummer, but his brother Bobby is (and I saw him a few months ago playing with fates warning! lucky me!)

Yeah, both of those brothers are really quite something. Ron is pretty much a legendary figure, and Bobby is just incredible as well, I believe he'll be a very legendary drummer as well. On a random note, Quo Vadis' drummer Yanic Bercier got lessons from Bobby. It really says something about Bobby when Yanic learns from him. Yanic is just another drum god, and I think he plays more "flashy" than Bobby, sometimes you don't even think what Bobby does in songs are incredible, but they really are. And sometimes, he shows it, and you're just left with your mouth open.... wide, very wide.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

None of you would have it if it wasn't for me, so shove off. X3

Lol.

What are you talking about?

I already said thank you. X3

[Audrey]

Lol.

What are you talking about?

Haha, the error of having multiple tabs open.

Or wait, actually I'm talking about that PM I sent you with music in it.

[Trias]

Audrey@ No, actually Doc beat you with two minutes.

Doc@ ... :facepalm I tend to become quite the Megalomaniac sometimes, but that has nothing to do with Watchtower's influence.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

And you missed my edit, the errors of eating and typing.

And probably using the quick post function, too.

Trias: I'm joking. :awesome

[DragonSlayer]

Playing Thornchild now and it's getting better. They have clearly started to discover their own sound instead of being a clone of Opeth.

[Audrey]

Guys, I'm listening to Sunn O))). It's not black metal. I hope you're happy! I might be making progress, except not really since they're pretty much the black metal of drone music and use black metal vocalists and tremolo picking on a lot of their music.

[Trias]

No Doc, you hate me, everyone hates me. Even by keyboard and my cat... gods, what the fuck I'm doing in metal thread? Where's my Linkin Park CD's........

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Lol, Audrey.

Trias: It's OK, I'll bet even Linkin Park hates you too.

[Trias]

Guys, I'm listening to Sunn O))). It's not black metal. I hope you're happy! I might be making progress, except not really since they're pretty much the black metal of drone music and use black metal vocalists and tremolo picking on a lot of their music.

Tremolo picking is attributed too much to Black Metal to the point it's ridicilous.

Why the snakes on a plane don't you download the latest stuff from my pimping thread and listen something that's other than Spooky-Spooky Metal for a change? It certainly has no the slightest black metal taste in it, that I'm proud of.

:pek

Edit: Both Linkin Park and Linkin Flames hate me. :LOS

[Audrey]

Tremolo picking is attributed too much to Black Metal to the point it's ridicilous.

Nobody's attributing it to black metal. X3

Shoegaze, black metal and post-rock probably use it more than any other styles of music. It's clear that Sunn O))), playing the music that they play and being influenced by black metal, were influenced to use it from black metal, however. They've also called themselves "pretty much a black metal band" in interviews.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

What about KoRn? :LOS

Spooky metal. Next best genre to Neo-Avantgarde-Progressive-Technical Metal.

[manos87]

Audrey seems such a sweet girl! Why would she always listen to black metal (and even progress to drone!!)

Cheer up! Do you want me to send you a Helloween album?:P:P



Seriously now, the album of the year in black metal is apparently Deathspell Omega

[Audrey]

Audrey seems such a sweet girl! Why would she always listen to black metal (and even progress to drone!!)

Look here: http://www.Last.fm/user/Malvery

Seriously now, the album of the year in black metal is apparently Deathspell Omega

Deathspell Omega's new album, along with the new albums from Shining, Wolves in the Throne Room, and Lunar Aurora, are among the best and most original in recent years.

[Trias]

I hadn't thought Shoegeezers actually used that much tremolo picking at all? It's not like it's a genre I listen a lot but....

Well, there's two parody genres in Turkey, "Atmospheric Dick Metal" and "Black Sea Ultra Black Metal" and some other stuff.

Let's eat some korn.

And no, Audrey wouldn't listen to a Helloween album. She's not that sweet... yet.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

The new Dark Suns is good.

The use of a flute obviously denotes a heavy Jethro Tull influence.

[Audrey]

I hadn't thought Shoegeezers actually used that much tremolo picking at all? It's not like it's a genre I listen a lot but....

My Bloody Valentine actually has an EP called Tremolo. The title is an allusion to the guitar style. Black metal and shoegaze have a lot of parallel sounds, as shown by Alcest. If you haven't heard Alcest by now, you ought to get it from my signature.

Audrey wouldn't listen to a Helloween album. She's not that sweet... yet.

I liked the song "Can Do It" from their last album because it sounds like Tuatha de Danann, which is a folk metal band from Brazil. It's the only song by them I know, however.

[DragonSlayer]

The new Dark Suns is good.

The use of a flute obviously denotes a heavy Jethro Tull influence.
Haha, my friend said the same exact thing. But there's no flute after that one part.

I'm at The Chameleon Defeet now, digging the new album though I can't say if it's as good as Existence and Swanlike. It's already clear that this album is going to require a few listens.

[Trias]

LOL, that vatican thing made me LOL :rotfl :rotfl hahahahaha... lol. and that music list had too much pink floyd, I shut the window down immediately.

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

It was part of a parody of Prog Rock reviews. :awesome

Yeah, it sounds like a grower, which is good. However, that depends on how much it grows.

[Audrey]

LOL, that vatican thing made me LOL :rotfl :rotfl hahahahaha... lol. and that music list had too much pink floyd, I shut the window down immediately.

Check my last post here.

Also, it's not a crime to listen to 5 Pink Floyd albums in one week. Talk about not acknowledging influential bands and how awesome they are. X3

[destroy_musick]

Shoegaze, black metal and post-rock probably use it more than any other styles of music.

what about thrash metal?! :arg

[Trias]

Tuatha de Danann are pretty bad at... lyrics...

looking for happiness, they love the woods and trees
rolling on the sand - they love themselves on the sidh
they kiss all the roots - and sing lovely songs
they bring in their hearts all the beauty of life and dreams


... :arg :arg :arg

And they use flute a bit too much I think.

So you haven't heard of awesome stuff from times of Keeper of the Seven Keys and such? Well, you need to be educated in the way of Power Metal. As much as the rest of this forum. :ı

[Audrey]

Tuatha de Danann are pretty bad at... lyrics...

Tuatha de Danann's lyrics are designed to sound like upbeat Celtic folk stories, which is exactly what they sound like. You're bad at understanding that not everything is serious.

... :arg :arg :arg

And they use flute a bit too much I think.

I like it, so shove off.


Oh, and...

Unlike some other flute bands, they actually were influenced by Jethro Tull, Boskov. X3

[Trias]

Well, to be honest, I detest Pink Flody. Talk about Vendetta..... They're like the, most overrated band in the history, sorry but apart from Barrett, they were nothing, they were hypocrite enough to make a lyrics like "we don't need no education" and they were a bunch of shit. Apart from Another brick in the wall and comfortably numb, all their works are 3rd class mediocre stuff in my eyes, as well. Funny how the song I hate most form them is the same song that I like most from them. And I was talking about knowing influential bands, not loving them. I had no problem with Doc not loving Watchtower at all. And well, Foo Fighters is more influential than Death, and I couldn't care less about the fighters. Dave Grohl sucks anyways.

My tummy... arg

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Hot damn, that makes them good.

[Trias]

You seem like the types to defend " Love Metal" stuff, Audrey :LOS

[Audrey]

Well, to be honest, I detest Pink Flody. Talk about Vendetta..... They're like the, most overrated band in the history, sorry but apart from Barrett, they were nothing, they were hypocrite enough to make a lyrics like "we don't need no education" and they were a bunch of shit. Apart from Another brick in the wall and comfortably numb, all their works are 3rd class mediocre stuff in my eyes, as well. Funny how the song I hate most form them is the same song that I like most from them. And I was talking about knowing influential bands, not loving them. I had no problem with Doc not loving Watchtower at all. And well, Foo Fighters is more influential than Death, and I couldn't care less about the fighters. Dave Grohl sucks anyways.

My tummy... arg

They introduced elements of many different styles of music into the spectrum of progressive rock over the course of many classic albums, and were one of the first rock bands to utilize musique concrète in their music. David Gilmour's guitar soundscapes were influential on many later musicians as well. I think you severely underestimate what they brought to music.

[manos87]

I hope you didn't mean what you said Trias.

Dark Side Of The Moon and mostly Wish You Were Here are also monuments in the progressive rock history, Waters is definately one of the best lyricists ever.

You should also see the movie "The Wall". In the time the whole album was written, it was a breakthrough.

Lastly, most people have no idea of their experimental early albums

[Audrey]

You seem like the types to defend " Love Metal" stuff, Audrey :LOS

HIM is a horrible band. Not to mention that I hate you.

[manos87]

Oh, and also they are the main and great influence of one of the best groups nowadays.

I mean Porcupine Tree

[Cell]

HIM is gay.

[destroy_musick]

insightful post of the day :LOS

[Audrey]

Oh, and also they are the main and great influence of one of the best groups nowadays.

I mean Porcupine Tree

Oh yeah, and if you don't like Pink Floyd and think they are a second-rate band, don't listen to music heavily influenced by them. X3

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Like Piper at the Gates of Dawn, A Saucerful of Secrets, More, Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother? Yeah, I know about them, they're decent, and certainly experimental, but that doesn't make them all that good, per se. My favorite Pink Floyd album is Animals. :3

And they're not the only ones who experimented during the late 60s. :awesome

[manos87]

And they're not the only ones who experimented during the late 60s. :awesome

I agree. But pink floyd made it to the crowd. They found the formula to make the success and combine quality with commerciality (?)

And once again I should mention the GREAT lyrics. Equal to Peart's.