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MUSOLINI
11-29-2007, 02:29 PM
either from capcom or snk. sammy is also allowed, though i don't understand how anybody could like the designs of any of these GG characters. cept sol that is, order sol.

my 2 personal favorites are gouki, the master of the fists (sf series, VS series and other hidden appearances), and Ryuji Yamazaki, the only remaining orochi member (FF fame and KOF). evil for the win of course.

other worthwhile characters? terry, ryu, iori, sagat, urien, gato and then some. too many to name. so lets hear your choices. i know its not of your era, but there are still people and even youngsters who prefer these games over the latest tekkens and VF's (i know we are fewer in numbers than these main streamers). doa sucks ass, but anybody knowing fighters knows that already.

p.s. some series have unique character designs and atmosphere. they all seem to look pretty good in design terms. a game that qualifies in this area is darkstalkers, the nightwarriors. all characters seem to look great and are designed really well. same for samurai spirits, this game has some of the best designs ever in gaming (and anime) history. the designer even helped out with ninja scroll (shame on you if you don't know/own this anime).

so lets hear it. anybody? :nod

Jesus Date
11-29-2007, 03:07 PM
Ken from SF and K' from KoF

Naruto
11-29-2007, 03:52 PM
Sol Badguy. And, for starters, I don't understand how anyone can like the generic designs capcom and snk usually do. So, try to be fair about it next time you start a thread on this.

Tehol Beddict
11-29-2007, 03:54 PM
Ken [SF], Iori [KoF], Chipp [GG], and Cap'n Falcon [Smash] are how I roll.

MUSOLINI
11-29-2007, 04:10 PM
Sol Badguy. And, for starters, I don't understand how anyone can like the generic designs capcom and snk usually do. So, try to be fair about it next time you start a thread on this.

mainly because all designs from GG have a similar look/feel. besides, looking at the other designs and then all of a sudden GG, its too damn anime to look like a fighter. same way mai (Z)hime is too damn anime and girly to be considered a fighters ambition. also, who other than order sol looks good design wise in GG? i cant think of anybody.

also, nobody know samurai shodown from back i the days? everybody i know used to love (and still do) the designs for this game. even the most crummy characters like earthquike and gen an where dope as hell. even the likes of sieher, lets not even get started about the awesomeness that is haohmaru or genjuro, nins like hanzou or demons like asura. just too damn cool (wish the anime was anything near the quality of the games).

Nena Trinity
11-29-2007, 04:17 PM
Oooooh...GG. I like Bridget and Testament. That game was actually pretty neat for $20.

"Shion"
11-29-2007, 04:19 PM
Ken [SF], Iori [KoF], Chipp [GG], and Cap'n Falcon [Smash] are how I roll.

Smash is not a 2d game, nor is it capcom or SNK........

MUSOLINI
11-29-2007, 04:22 PM
Smash is not a 2d game, nor is it capcom or SNK........

not is it anything remotely close to a real fighter. fun for kids though, my lil nephew likes it.

Tehol Beddict
11-29-2007, 04:23 PM
Smash is 2d enough, in that it's not a 3d fighter [making the franchise more pure 2d than either SF or KoF, which have both had 3d entries] and you're a troll. I read what he said, and added the cap'n anyways. He hates GG designs too. Don't much care.

not is it anything remotely close to a real fighter. fun for kids though, my lil nephew likes it.:awesome

I've actively tourneyed in GG Slash, SFII, KoF 98, and CvSII. I have with Smash as well, perhaps more than the rest combined, and it is a "real" fighter, you just failed at grasping it. Cheers for glance comprehension.

"Shion"
11-29-2007, 04:30 PM
Smash is 2d enough, in that it's not a 3d fighter [making the franchise more pure 2d than either SF or KoF, which have both had 3d entries] and you're a troll. I read what he said, and added the cap'n anyways. He hates GG designs too. Don't much care.


:awesome
Im a human, my friend.....:huh

not is it anything remotely close to a real fighter. fun for kids though, my lil nephew likes it.

The game is good enough to make people in high school like the game as well.

Hell, I like the game too!

But yeah, favorite 2d's would be..... Megaman...

Gouki, Orochi(KoF), Ken, Ryu.....

Naruto
11-29-2007, 04:31 PM
mainly because all designs from GG have a similar look/feel.
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/faust/faustboingani.gif http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/dizzy/dizcoffinstartani.gif
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/justice/justicedashani.gif
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/i-no/inowinposeani.gif


http://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/ryu/ryustance.gifhttp://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/ken/kenstance.gifhttp://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/akuma/akumastance.gif

besides, looking at the other designs and then all of a sudden GG, its too damn anime to look like a fighter.
SF was meant to look like anime in the first place, the sad reason it doesn't is the low resolution of the sprites. Besides, why is this a negative point?


also, who other than order sol looks good design wise in GG? i cant think of anybody.

Biased much? Any GG character looks better than anything capcom or snk came up with :sag

Piekage
11-29-2007, 04:36 PM
Terry Bogard from Fatal Fury and Dizzy and Sol Badguy from Guilty Gear.

shingen
11-29-2007, 05:33 PM
woah too many lets see


last blade 2 Moriya,Hibiki and Washizuka Currently Playing

all street fighters
Yang Ken Sagat Dhalsim Fei Long
Yun ryu Karin Guile Cody and Alex my newest character probably the only big guy i ever played with

Guilty Gear (what you dont like GG designs damn!)
Ky Kiske Sol Order Sol A.B.A. and Johnny


Samurai shodown Jubei Suija Charlotte uhh Kazuki Kazama
Yumeji(boss character she's like shang tsung)Ukyo Tachibana and the guy with seven swords is pretty dope

MK kabal cyrax sub zero

Hokuto no Ken gotta go With Souther and Shin

all i can think of now

MUSOLINI
11-29-2007, 05:37 PM
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/faust/faustboingani.gif http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/dizzy/dizcoffinstartani.gif
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/justice/justicedashani.gif
http://ggxlol.highervoltage.net/i-no/inowinposeani.gif

um, what did you prove here? all those characters you showed look retarded beyond comprehension. not just that, you wanna tell me they don't look anime?


http://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/ryu/ryustance.gifhttp://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/ken/kenstance.gifhttp://www.newwavemugen.com/~zweifuss/akuma/akumastance.gif


um, sf and especially kof had designs that fit fighters well, much better than the pop culture look of GG and its wannabe japanese pop singer lookalikes. at least the streetfighters and kof'ers look like fighters.

SF was meant to look like anime in the first place, the sad reason it doesn't is the low resolution of the sprites. Besides, why is this a negative point?

it was meant to look as good as an anime, not look anime in its design way. with fake ass looking characters and such. ive been playing this shit since 90's and most fighters that capcom and snk released actually looked like they could kick ass. you mean to tell me those GG characters lok though?

Biased much? Any GG character looks better than anything capcom or snk came up with :sag

most people rate snk or capcom characters far higher than anything sammy ever released. if you really wanne see some great ass designs check the samurai shodown games and tell me GG looks great. cause it doesn't. ill give it one thing in its defense, it is better than their latest attempt of FOTNS.

check this shit: http://www.fightersgeneration.com/

shingen
11-29-2007, 05:51 PM
i mean its your opinion but i think guilty gear characters do look tough

he showed the wrong ones though lol

Twilit
11-29-2007, 06:23 PM
I've actively tourneyed in GG Slash, SFII, KoF 98, and CvSII. I have with Smash as well, perhaps more than the rest combined, and it is a "real" fighter, you just failed at grasping it. Cheers for glance comprehension.

So much win there.

How can you not call Smash a 2D fighter? You battle in TWO DIMENSIONS. But whatever, I need not waste my time on this.

My favorites are probably Ryu and Chipp.

Randir
11-29-2007, 06:39 PM
Fun factor: Zangief, Dan Hibiki and Sodom (hilariously named Katana in SFA2, where I had first contact with this charming fellow.)

Coolness: Sagat and Gen ("Ancient words of wisdom: You stink." = classic.)

Overall: Gouki and Ryu (for the usual reasons), Sagat (how can you not love his melodious laughter) and Gen (anyone who nonchalantly survives the Shun Goku Satsu belongs in this category.)

Wu Fei
11-29-2007, 06:43 PM
GG - Testament and Venom
Capcom - Yang and Sagat
SNK - K' and Terry (with the hat)

HEATAQUA
11-29-2007, 08:20 PM
Capcom:Dhalsim,Eagle,Chun Li,Dan,Gulie,E.Honda,Sodam,Hugo,Sakura,Maki,Urien, Makoto,Adon,Fei Long,Blanka,R.Mika(Street Fighter) Lord Raptor,B.B Hood,Demitri,Victor,Sasquatch,Rikuo,Hsein Ko,Huitzil(DarkStalkers) Tassa,Kenji,Leo(Red Earth)
SNK:Raiden(Capcom vs SNK 2),Tizoc,Jyazu,Duck King,Momoko,Ash Crimson,Lucky,Yamazaki,Kula,Athena,Kensou,Joe,Tung Fu Rue,Benimaru,Terry,Whip,King,Choi,King,Hotaru,Yuri ,Eiji,Malin,Gai,May Lee,K9999,Hinako,Billy Kane(King of Fighters)
Tam Tam,Ocha Maro,Hanzo,Gaira,Yoshitora Tokugawa,Kyoshiro,Rimmuru,Basara,Genjuro,Sugoroku, Nakoruru,Gen-an,Yunfei(Samurai Shodown)
Poochy(Power Instinct)
Akari,Shigen,Lee Rekka(Last Blade)
Mudman,Fuma,Brocken,Ryofu,Neo Dio,J.Carn(Word Heroes)
Guity Gear XX:Faust,Slayer,Eddie,Zappa,I-no,May,Sol Badguy,Bridget,Chipp

Duy Nguyen
11-29-2007, 08:34 PM
I'm sure it all breaks down to the generation you got into fighters.

Most people who started playing or got into fighters now are more into the Guilty Gear character design and the cool looks of the KoF series. Also this is suppose to be a forum for Naruto fans, hence www.narutofans.com. Since Naruto is an anime and it is what attracted most of the people to come to this forum int he first place, it is more than likely that they like the GG anime style designs a lot more.

So for those of us who played fighters since the arcade era and so on, we adore the old school looks hell of a lot more. Maybe it's because we grew up with it or the nice feeling of nostalgia everytime you hear Ryu's or Sakura's original theme song I don't know. Like I seriously think Zangief looks 10,000,000x cooler than say Potemkin and Tizoc.

I too would consider Smash a 2D fighter. The sprites and all are 3D but he linear pathway is enough to justify that it is a 2D fighter.

My personal favorites are Ken, Chun-Li, Vega, and Guile.

spectaa
11-29-2007, 08:45 PM
1/Robert garcia
http://www.planet-snk.de/img/articles/4999/art-of-fighting-2_01.png
enmei satsu!!

2/Raoh.
http://mortal.shang.free.fr/images/Ken/SEGA/toki_raoh.jpg
Ten ni misseee!!!!

3/Gouki
http://www.guenstiger-essen.de/cps3faq/pics/3rd_cps3.jpg
Isatsu...(or something liek that)

4/jotaro joestar
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/6/66/Jotaro.gif
Ora ora!

So for those of us who played fighters since the arcade era and so on, we adore the old school looks hell of a lot more. Maybe it's because we grew up with it or the nice feeling of nostalgia everytime you hear Ryu's or Sakura's original theme song I don't know. Like I seriously think Zangief looks 10,000,000x cooler than say Potemkin and Tizoc.

I've seen all generation of fighter since international karate, and I manage to adapt to new disigns. It's not about old or knew, it's not about me, it's about the quality of the design, the move list, the digits, his soundtrack maybe, whatever makes a character lovable...

Ps: I don't give a damn about what the first post suggest, nobody is going to tell me what I can love and what I can't.

Naruto
11-30-2007, 08:09 AM
um, what did you prove here? all those characters you showed look retarded beyond comprehension. not just that, you wanna tell me they don't look anime?

Thats funny considering your retardation keeps you from putting 2 and 2 together. Your first argument was "they all have the same look/feel". I present you with 4 assorted characters from GG that look nothing like eachother, proving you wrong. I then show you 3 characters from SF that are essentially shoto clones and head swaps for ryu. And of course they look like anime you moron, they're meant to.

um, sf and especially kof had designs that fit fighters well, much better than the pop culture look of GG and its wannabe japanese pop singer lookalikes. at least the streetfighters and kof'ers look like fighters.

Guilty Gear *is* meant to be themed of rock and roll. Did it ever occur to you that other people, happen to value originality and creativity over the fucking bullshit snk and capcom pull out of their soiled asses? Not to mention the fact that GG characters AND sprites actually *do* look awesome, its just that you're too busy drooling all over Ryu's oversized feet.

it was meant to look as good as an anime, not look anime in its design way. with fake ass looking characters and such. ive been playing this shit since 90's and most fighters that capcom and snk released actually looked like they could kick ass. you mean to tell me those GG characters lok though?

What in the blazes are you on?

"I like tough looking characters, I like characters that look like fighters, and therefore will go out of my way to dis everything that isn't to my liking".

You seriously just act like your underdeveloped sense of fashion is above everyone else's. It's insane that you actually are using your own biased opinion as if it was an actual, factual argument.

I broke down your post into parts, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together. You're a sore loser.

I also must say this whole e-penis measurement of who played old school fighters for longer periods of time is retarded. I STARTED with street fighter, okay? I played every motherfucking capcom game and crossover, I'm in tune with this genre's mechanics and I know for a fact that at this point, no 2d fighter series comes even close to Guilty Gear in *any* aspect. The cast is original, the graphics far more detailed, the music incredible, the gameplay far more complex, and the voice acting includes several well known seyuu from assorted anime series.

Whats sad is that I *do* respect anyone who decides to stick for the series that started it all, whilst MUSOLINI disregards and disses everyone who doesn't agree with him, while having no true arguments to back up his statement other than, his fucking opinion on it.

Sol Badguy
11-30-2007, 08:22 AM
i mean its your opinion but i think guilty gear characters do look tough

he showed the wrong ones though lol

He didn't "show the wrong characters", the purpose wasn't to prove GG's characters were tough. I think Sol Badguy has enough testosterone for the whole game and why would you need a game where every character looks the same? With guilty gear you have totally different characters so that everyone likes at least one of them. He likes tough dudes right? Hes got sol and order sol, and potemkin if hes into it. Other people may like something more along the lines of a ninja, you got chipp. If you're into gentlemen types, theres Slayer, and so on. On top of the typical designs, theres a lot of original stuff you don't see anywhere else.

That musolini guy claimed guilty gear had similar looking designs when its clear that its about the only fighter that does not. He proved with 4 totally different character sprites. He then showed 3 street fighter characters, that, in contrast, look exactly the same.

And for the record, I started playing fighting games back in the first fatal fury. Just respect other people's opinions for crying out loud. Implying in the OP that GG characters are below capcom or snk is not only wrong, its disrespectful.

Donkey Show
11-30-2007, 09:13 AM
First of all, calm down people. Second, how is there any lack in creativity or sense of similarity in any of the GG characters? I'm a huge Cap fan, but you have to give it up to Sammy to making the cast both unique and effectively work within 2D fighting game boundaries. Third, shame on you all for not mentioning Jin Saotome.

http://www.geocities.com/supermiedos/jin2.gif

MUSOLINI
11-30-2007, 10:32 AM
hmmm, some people just dot get my point. the reason i think most GG characters look gay is cause the anime style changed over the years. back in the days when FOTNS was new (80's shit) the designs where much more grimier and darker. fitting a fighters universe. GG looks like modern day anime, too metro. all these new colorful designs with guys in tights gears isn't something i really like, you can for all i care. i was just telling my own point of view. for me, i don't like to see a girl with a yoyo in a fighter, cause it looks fake as fuck. my opinion.

and naruto, wtf you going on about. i already made my point, no need to keep on bitching about your bullshit. i already know GG is meant for the metro cosplaying pop culture peeps. wtf you trying to prove?

also the deepness of kof or SF cant be compared to smash, even if it plays 2d. besides, weren't we talking bout 2d designs? not snes series favorites characters like link and bowzer. shit.

p.s. robert garcia AoF3 and kof 96/97/98 style looks great.

Final Ultima
11-30-2007, 01:21 PM
First of all, calm down people. Second, how is there any lack in creativity or sense of similarity in any of the GG characters? I'm a huge Cap fan, but you have to give it up to Sammy to making the cast both unique and effectively work within 2D fighting game boundaries. Third, shame on you all for not mentioning Jin Saotome.

http://www.geocities.com/supermiedos/jin2.gifWell played, DS, well played.

Also, Sol Badguy's avatar and sig set reminds me that I want to get myself a Sol Badguy set at some point. Competitive Sol player with no Sol set = one sad panda.

Violent By Design
11-30-2007, 02:50 PM
Ok ladies just agree to disagree. Guilty Gear and Street Fighter are both great fighting games, so theres no reason to keep on babbling.

Though for arguments sake im not a big fan of Guilty Gear characters. I feel like the characters are just randomly made, they take a bunch of random attributes and slap them together. Very few of them have a nice natural look to them.

But anyway here are my fav characters

Kyo - Is prob the coolest looking guy in fighting games. Guy got a lot of style, almost to much style.

Ken - Attitude wise Ken is the shit. Hes so nonchalant but hes still strong. Gotta love the ladies men

M.Bison - Because hes just a dick

Geese Howard - Hes a dick with style


Gameplay

In terms of game play I gotta say Terry is the best main character/ beginner character. Terry is a lot better then Ryu in the sense that he has a lot of moves so it gives the beginner for things to experiment and learn from. Plus Terrys special attacks hit low+high, are fast and damaging. He is the best beginner character imo.

MUSOLINI
12-01-2007, 07:26 PM
i like uriens vibe too, though his outfit is disgusting (still doesn't stop me from picking him). attitude wise, yamazaki is the man, crazy, too crazy.

dirty_saint
12-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Ryu (SF), Charlie (SF), Terry Bogard (FF) and K (SNK)

Violent By Design
12-01-2007, 09:14 PM
i like uriens vibe too, though his outfit is disgusting (still doesn't stop me from picking him). attitude wise, yamazaki is the man, crazy, too crazy.

I forgot about Yamazaki, that guys the man to.

Duy Nguyen
12-02-2007, 04:48 AM
WTF....still no love for Deejay?

http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/st-gba/artwork/deejay.jpg

He's so maximum.

P.S.
Enchanted was an awesome movie.

Biolink
12-02-2007, 03:51 PM
Street Fighter:Yun&Yang

KOF:Iori

Guilty Gear:Eddie

Arcana Heart:Konoha

MUSOLINI
12-02-2007, 05:44 PM
dj and fei long where my favorite 2 new SSFII characters. though t.hawks designs still pretty cool and the same can be said bout cammy. still, super turbo gave birth to the greatest sf characters ever. also yamazaki should have been in the FF3 anime instead of shose mars armor characters, the anime artists designs really didn't match up to snks own.

Spiral Man
12-02-2007, 06:25 PM
Marvel - Venom

Amano Ginji
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
SF - Ryu ( black outfit )

GG - Sol Badguy

M v C - War Machine

Xi
12-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Super Mario: Mario (Technically it is a fighting game. lol. Go bosses.lol)

dirty_saint
12-02-2007, 10:01 PM
forgot this guy. my favorite most of all. i have never lost a match with him. although he was a 3D character first (Plasma Sword). But 2D in Marvel vs. Capcom. Which I think counts.

Hayato
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/coheedx/hayato_thumb.jpg

MUSOLINI
12-02-2007, 10:02 PM
you know, it would be fun to see a new 2d fighter with a cast consisting of amine & manga allstars. sort of like MVC or snk vs cap, but with characters such as devilman and guyver, stone guy from ninja scroll and what not. plausible back in the 2d fighters era, good as impossible now. but then again, it probably would have been impossible from the start, with the licenses and such.

i just hope we get to see a true next gen 2d fighting game title soon, these talks about 2.5d sf4 and kof 12 haven't really me all that happy. must be expensive hiring an animation studio (instead of making 3d models that look and act like 2d, like they tried with ex and maximum impact?)?

Violent By Design
12-02-2007, 11:15 PM
you know, it would be fun to see a new 2d fighter with a cast consisting of amine & manga allstars. sort of like MVC or snk vs cap, but with characters such as devilman and guyver, stone guy from ninja scroll and what not. plausible back in the 2d fighters era, good as impossible now. but then again, it probably would have been impossible from the start, with the licenses and such.

i just hope we get to see a true next gen 2d fighting game title soon, these talks about 2.5d sf4 and kof 12 haven't really me all that happy. must be expensive hiring an animation studio (instead of making 3d models that look and act like 2d, like they tried with ex and maximum impact?)?

Shonen All-Stars

Haohmaru
12-03-2007, 01:10 AM
@Violent by Design, more like Seinen All-Stars. Most of the anime MUSOLINI named are 16 or 18+.

My favorites are
- Haohmaru (obviously). Pretty much every Samurai Shodown character. I seriously love them all (up to Samurai Shodown 4, before playmore took over).
- Terry (loved him ever since FF1, not too found of his Garou MOTW design though).
- Yamazaki, there will never be a crazy, cool killa like him again. Epic
- Robert Garcia (I especially like his KOF '96, '97, '98 design).
- K', Kyo & Iori from KOF.
- Setsuna (Last Blade 2) and many other LB characters. The game has great diverse designs IMO.
- Geese. #1 mafia character. (I remember calling him cheese back in the day cause my english wasn't good (I was like 10 orso). Good old days).
Gotta love the SF characters too. I do agree with Naruto a little that they do look alike, but I think it's mostly because they have the same clothes. If you look at it they don't even look alike in any way. You have your typical JP guy. Blond American dude and a demon.

GG character designs are OKish to me. The ones you posted Naruto were actually one of the worst in GG IMO. The dude with the paper bag on his head has one of the worst designs ever. Anyway Sol Badguy is pretty cool. Testament looks pretty good as well.

DIRECTED AT MODS/SMODS/ADMINS, what the hell happened to the search function? When are you going to fix this?

mystictrunks
12-03-2007, 06:13 AM
Marvel: Colossus
SF: Sakura, Ken, Sagat
KoF: King

Jicksy
12-03-2007, 07:13 AM
ken, chippe, and terry

dark0samurai
12-07-2007, 10:51 AM
SF2:Turbo
SFA3
SF3:3S
MvC2
CvS2
GG X2 #RELOAD
GG AC

played in a tounry: GG AC + SF3:3S

edit:
SF2:Turbo (ryu + ken)
SFA3 (ken)
SF3:3S (ryu)
MvC2(ryu, guile, wolverien)
CvS2(ryu, ken :P chun-li)
GG X2 #RELOAD(sol-badguy, "cheap" chipp, millia)
GG AC(chipp, order-sol, ky)

played in a tounry: GG AC (sol and chipp) + SF3:3S (ken..)

MUSOLINI
12-07-2007, 11:49 AM
SF2:Turbo
SFA3
SF3:3S
MvC2
CvS2
GG X2 #RELOAD
GG AC

played in a tounry: GG AC + SF3:3S

edit:
SF2:Turbo (ryu + ken)
SFA3 (ken)
SF3:3S (ryu)
MvC2(ryu, guile, wolverien)
CvS2(ryu, ken :P chun-li)
GG X2 #RELOAD(sol-badguy, "cheap" chipp, millia)
GG AC(chipp, order-sol, ky)

played in a tounry: GG AC (sol and chipp) + SF3:3S (ken..)

do you use denjin or shinku hado or shinku shoryu ryu in TS? me personally, i either use the shiku hado or shiku shoryu in battles. unless i know the opponent im facing isn't the greatest parrier, so he wont be parrying the denjins on wakeups. like i do.