Castration: A Proper Punishment For Rape?

[Snowblind]

In such cases involving a clear case of premediated rape, could castration be a justified, ethical, and effective punishment?

[~rocka]

I think not

[Sasori]

n o

[Gunners]

It makes the criminal more violent so no I wouldn't say it is an appropriate punishment. When you do something to make another man suffer and you allow him to live you are asking for problems.

[Denji]

Mutilation as punishment is never justifiable IMO.

[Pilaf]

No.

That's revenge, not justice.

If we are to ascend to higher forms of nobility and human justice, we have to move away from barbaric revenge practices, because to slaughter someone's genitalia in retaliation doesn't say much for you being any better than the rapist.

[drache]

No.

That's revenge, not justice.

If we are to ascend to higher forms of nobility and human justice, we have to move away from barbaric revenge practices, because to slaughter someone's genitalia in retaliation doesn't say much for you being any better than the rapist.

The line between revenge and punishment is often razor thin.

Having known a couple people that were raped and suffered badly I probably do not have an objective measure of this question.

That said I see nothing wrong with it provided it's made clear that you do x and y happens.

It's classic and clear and perfectly fine; I think. The question is at least where I live in the US, would it be consider cruel and unusual punishment?

And from a legal standpoint I can't say clearly yes or no.

[Kokain]

Castration in males usually eliminates the libido and the sexual urges that encourage rapists to rape. It would almost certainly prevent the same person from committing rape ever again, which is a much better safeguard than jail time (unless of course the rapist is in for life).

It does seem a bit too harsh though. People make pretty bad judgments once in a while, which is understandable enough, even if not entirely excusable. I suppose I have no problem with castration as a punishment for hopelessly inveterate rapists with a long history of the crime, but of course, "long history" is a terribly vague term to implement in deciding the fate of something as important as a man's cojones. Perhaps it could be the rapist's choice? Dilemma: 25 years in prison, or only 5 years but we cut off your balls. Or your dick, that's your call too.

[sadated_peon]

I think castration should me more readily accept as a punishment for criminals.

Not only is it an incentive not to commit crime but it also means that these people have no chance of breading.

so a win win.

[Kagutsuchi]

0% Recidivism Rate = Win

[Shaidar Haran]

How is this to be done to female and transvestite rapists? Is it a suitable "punishment" for those who don't use their sexual organs for the raping and instead use metal pipes, brooms, etc.?

[dreams lie]

How is this to be done to female and transvestite rapists? Is it a suitable "punishment" for those who don't use their sexual organs for the raping and instead use metal pipes, brooms, etc.?

We cut off the broom handle. That's teach him. :LOS

In all seriousness, no. This goes back into revenge vs justice.

[MartialHorror]

I'm for Chemical Castration........

But there needs to be heavy evidense proving they did it......

[Pilaf]

The line between revenge and punishment is often razor thin.

Having known a couple people that were raped and suffered badly I probably do not have an objective measure of this question.

That said I see nothing wrong with it provided it's made clear that you do x and y happens.

It's classic and clear and perfectly fine; I think. The question is at least where I live in the US, would it be consider cruel and unusual punishment?

Your fatal flaw is that you think kindness and moral high ground can't be contained just because you can't personally understand why it's the proper path. It's a fallacy to assume that justice is limited by the ability of individual men to feel sympathy for their enemies.

And from a legal standpoint I can't say clearly yes or no.

It's called cruel and unusual punishment and it's frowned upon by most civilized nations. In fact, a judge who administers cruel and unusual punishment can lose his job.

[ostrich]

When I form a country, everyone who breaks my law gets the death penalty.
You direspect your dictator(me)-> death penalty
Try to start a rebellion-> death penalty
Kill someone -> death penalty
Steal-> death penalty
Rape, arson, disturb the peace... ->death penalty
Well, you get the point.There would be no questions about something being ethical, you are to accept it as it is.And it is as I say it is :mad

But until that day comes...

When someone breaks the law, his penalty must incorporate these two things...To make sure that he/she doesn't do it again and the victim's satisfaction with the verdict against the accused.


But I don't think that the punishment should be the same for all, seeing as how we are all individuals, there can't be a universal punisment.
Before the verdict is brought, I'd learn as much as I can about him/her and the way he/she reacts to certain stimuli.
Then I would punish him/her in the way that is best suited for that individual.
Prisons, castrations are not the answer, well not in all the cases.But if a castration would satisfy the victim and make sure that he doesn't commit the crime again, then I think it's the right punishment, in that case.
If it works and makes the person a productive member of society, the ethics of it don't matter.It's being ethical through unethical ways :wink
Seeing as how punishing people in the way that is best suited for them as individuals is not possible in today's world, you can ignore this part...


I'm against castrations as punishments for all cases of premeditated rape.Even though they deserve it, it may not be the most productive punishment.But to bring it in as a possible punishment, would be interesting.Detail evaluations of the rapist(punishment based not only on the rape committed but his persona, as well) would be needed before it's undertaken.
But, by cutting of a man's balls, you might be releasing an even bigger monster...

[Gaawa-chan]

... I see nothing wrong with it, though it's certainly not the punishment I'd prefer.

I find it interesting that rape is one of the few crimes a person can commit that truly has no reasonable motive- even some murderers can have some somewhat reasonable justification for their actions.
However, for those who aren't out to get their rocks off or dominate another, it won't stop a rapist. If they can't use what they once had, they'll use something else, because it's not about sex, it's about torturing another person.

Quite frankly, life in prison or the death penalty are far better than castration. Such a punishment is both unreliable and- dare I say it?- messy.
Not to mention the religious implications... I believe there are some faiths that dictate that you must be buried with all of your body parts, or something like that... that would make sentencing messy.
And then there are possible psychological repercussions... but I doubt that would change a rapist for the worse very much.

Someone's going to nail me for this post, I just know it...

[drache]

Your fatal flaw is that you think kindness and moral high ground can't be contained just because you can't personally understand why it's the proper path. It's a fallacy to assume that justice is limited by the ability of individual men to feel sympathy for their enemies.

Then tell me why often the criminal has more rights then the victim sometimes? Would you like me to bring the history of the legal prosecution of rape into this? It's far from pretty and very revelent to an extent here. After all for a long time the world that was dominated by men would never take a charge of rape seriously; date rape is often believed to be one of the world's oldest crimes, right up thier with murder.

More over I didn't say that justice was always limited by sympathy, just that sometimes it is; or it's limited by being too careful. But then again perhaps it's better to be too careful then not enough, at least that's the tradition of the American legal system.

And please, don't be self rightous we both have our opnions on the matter but that doesn't make it a fallacy. I could say the fatal flaw and fallacy you make is underestimating just how many rapists are repeat if not serial offenders and that it's better to act harshly to save others in the future then to act kindly and have more hurt in the future.

I think anyone convincted as a repeat rapist or a serial rapist should be castrated. They've shown that they have no intention of trying to behave by society's rules and that they will rape again. At that point I feel they've reliquinshed any right to ask for mercy, to show too much mercy is just as bad as showing too little.



It's called cruel and unusual punishment and it's frowned upon by most civilized nations. In fact, a judge who administers cruel and unusual punishment can lose his job.

Actually it's not as clear cut as you would imply, cruel and unusual punishment has traditionally been about public embrassment. Which is why you can't tar and feather someone, the punishment was more about making someone a laughing stock while inflicting pain. That said though as it's a medical treatment what would be cruel and unusual about it?

Further given the that execution is not cruel and unusual how can castration be? That to me would be illogical.

[scottlw]

i think it should be a good punishment for any one that uses it wrong looses it :D

or atleast enough fo it were they cant rape again :D