A Serious Discussion About Animation Infatuation

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I have to admit, I am a little bit creeped out when I see people posting in threads about how their in love with anime or game characters and not meaning it as a joke. Now I've heard the stupid explanation about things being representations of humans and how the characters are directly linked to what our brain recognize as people...

Now I understand the notion that people get when they say, "Wow she'd be pretty as a real girl," or "This guy would be so handsome if he were real?" but the magnitude of some of these comments is borderline psychotic almost.

The idea that no real person is right for you and that you have to have a cartoon character should say something about you as a person. I mean there are people all over the place and all of them different. Chances are if you can't at least mesh with one of them on some kind of level then something might be wrong with you or more likely than even that, you're not trying.

Confidence isn't the most important thing. But I've got the nerve to get in someone's face if I have to. I've got enough nerve to tell someone "hey you're doing it wrong." Everyone needs to have the social skills to go out into public and meet people, talk to them, and the like.

I might not be the friendliest person, but I can talk to people. I can actually talk to the fairer sex better than I can other men, I just feel more comfortable around them. But that's besides the point, I am starting to think that this infatuation (because that's all it is) with cartoons is partly because a lot of people don't know how to deal with other men or women, even on a level of friendship.

People don't know how to deal with the women and men in different settings that they might be in. We kind of have to have that built in litmus test to tell us what action is right, what tone to take, whether to be formal or informal.

Now this is different than just simply watching Hentai, this is actually thinking that you would want these characters in a relationship. And more often than not the things I hear are about the characters body...the personality and temperament of the character are almost never taken into account. Even though more often than not the characters temperament is unrealistic because most characters belong in an archetype, especially in anime.

So what I am asking is what's the meaning behind this? Is this a new phenomenon? Are these things more common than we think? I can remember having a crush on characters as a child, but a crush meant much less back then than wanting to be near something and feeling weird and nervous. I wonder if in a way this is related to that? Or if any of you find it strange who do possess this quality.

[Kira Yamato]

Wait, so your take on this is that people who are infatuated with anime characters are all asocial people who have trouble talking to the opposite sex?

If that's the case then you're going to miss out on a whole population of people who are have this obsession. There are people I know who are very out-going and have mates however, their love for anime characters goes beyond what I would consider normal, and as expected their relationships with their mates are often unstable. Now, these are people who are attractive, gregarious and/or have no problem communicating with people.

They're people who for whatever reason became obsessed with an image (including personality, mindset, temperament, etc...) that can never be matched or replicated because it's fake. It's no different than people who are obsessed with movie or tv show characters, well, except they can't stalk the actual actors :hehee

Sadly it's a bit safer than those with obsessions with certain celebrities and wanting them to act just like their TV or movie character or people who believe they will one day marry Jay Z because there soul mates and wants to kill Beyonce.

[~Zaxxon~]

Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather I go and stalk some REAL lolis? :iria

[Smoke]

GUILTY!!!!:(

[Anaiya]

Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather I go and stalk some REAL lolis? :iria

No.Don't you dare!

[~Zaxxon~]

No.Don't you dare!

Exactly my point. :pek

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Wait, so your take on this is that people who are infatuated with anime characters are all asocial people who have trouble talking to the opposite sex?

If that's the case then you're going to miss out on a whole population of people who are have this obsession. There are people I know who are very out-going and have mates however, their love for anime characters goes beyond what I would consider normal, and as expected their relationships with their mates are often unstable. Now, these aren't people who attractive, anti-social or have problems communicating with people.

They're people for whatever reason became obsessed with an image (including personality, mindset, temperament, etc...) that can never be matched or replicated because it's fake. It's no different than people who are obsessed with movie or tv show characters, well, except they can't stalk the actual actors :hehee

Sadly it's a bit safer than those with obsessions with certain celebrities and wanting them to act just like their TV or movie character or people who believe they will one day marry Jay Z because there soul mates and wants to kill Beyonce.

Celebrity infatuation becomes more dangerous because you can't actually stalk an anime character. I did know this overly odd girl who followed this guy around the mall all day because he had long white blond hair and grayish eyes like Sephirorth. It was at the point we were calling her phone and she didn't pick up because she was stalking him, I guess that's just as bad.

Now the thing is, I have never met someone who is socially well adjusted who is in love with a character like that. I joke about it so and so do my friends but you wouldn't catch me joking around any one who might think I'm serious. Nor would you see me neglecting a girlfriend over that (do they do that). I am curious to see someone like that now because that adds a whole new dimension to this.

More often than not, the ones I meet don't seem attracted to the characters personality either. Now in the case of celebrities, this is different (my friend met Johnny Depp working at Disney World, she said he was very laid back and the kind of guy she would love to date).

[quizzlix?!]

i have no social skills, i am a NEET

[~Zaxxon~]

I may be very obsessed with many different types of anime women, but I have no problem knowing the true beauty of a woman. I may act like a perverted nut that has no hope for humanity, but what you hear on these forums, are a manifestation of my inner thought coming out. I KNOW that women can not only have outter beauty, but can also have a great loving heart. Maybe even more than my own gender sake. :amuse

So before you judge anime pervs, keep in mind that many are also very loving people. :pek

[Suzumebachi]

I have to admit, I am a little bit creeped out when I see people posting in threads about how their in love with anime or game characters and not meaning it as a joke. Now I've heard the stupid explanation about things being representations of humans and how the characters are directly linked to what our brain recognize as people...

Now I understand the notion that people get when they say, "Wow she'd be pretty as a real girl," or "This guy would be so handsome if he were real?" but the magnitude of some of these comments is borderline psychotic almost.

The idea that no real person is right for you and that you have to have a cartoon character should say something about you as a person. I mean there are people all over the place and all of them different. Chances are if you can't at least mesh with one of them on some kind of level then something might be wrong with you or more likely than even that, you're not trying.

Confidence isn't the most important thing. But I've got the nerve to get in someone's face if I have to. I've got enough nerve to tell someone "hey you're doing it wrong." Everyone needs to have the social skills to go out into public and meet people, talk to them, and the like.

I might not be the friendliest person, but I can talk to people. I can actually talk to the fairer sex better than I can other men, I just feel more comfortable around them. But that's besides the point, I am starting to think that this infatuation (because that's all it is) with cartoons is partly because a lot of people don't know how to deal with other men or women, even on a level of friendship.

People don't know how to deal with the women and men in different settings that they might be in. We kind of have to have that built in litmus test to tell us what action is right, what tone to take, whether to be formal or informal.

Now this is different than just simply watching Hentai, this is actually thinking that you would want these characters in a relationship. And more often than not the things I hear are about the characters body...the personality and temperament of the character are almost never taken into account. Even though more often than not the characters temperament is unrealistic because most characters belong in an archetype, especially in anime.

So what I am asking is what's the meaning behind this? Is this a new phenomenon? Are these things more common than we think? I can remember having a crush on characters as a child, but a crush meant much less back then than wanting to be near something and feeling weird and nervous. I wonder if in a way this is related to that? Or if any of you find it strange who do possess this quality.

Aren't you that guy who usually says "I have no patience to read something that long"??

[Kira Yamato]

Celebrity infatuation becomes more dangerous because you can't actually stalk an anime character. I did know this overly odd girl who followed this guy around the mall all day because he had long white blond hair and grayish eyes like Sephirorth. It was at the point we were calling her phone and she didn't pick up because she was stalking him, I guess that's just as bad.

Now the thing is, I have never met someone who is socially well adjusted who is in love with a character like that. I joke about it so and so do my friends but you wouldn't catch me joking around any one who might think I'm serious. Nor would you see me neglecting a girlfriend over that (do they do that). I am curious to see someone like that now because that adds a whole new dimension to this.

More often than not, the ones I meet don't seem attracted to the characters personality either. Now in the case of celebrities, this is different (my friend met Johnny Depp working at Disney World, she said he was very laid back and the kind of guy she would love to date).

Well, I guess anime characters do provide an unrealistic expectation that can never be met, which is why it's so difficult to wrest people away from their obsession. I'm a fan of anime characters but their are limits. I'm not going to forsake humanity for some ink or date people because they remind me of my favorite anime character :S

When I mean well-adjusted, I didn't mean the stalker types xD
On second thought, I rather stick with attractive and gregarious, because it's hard to be well-adjusted when you're that obsessed with an anime character.
And you're friend who was stalking that guy because he reminded her of a FF character definitely needed some help, because that's probably not the best way to choose a future mate. :S

As for celebrities, the example for Johnny Depp, isn't that different than a person who wanted to date a person who had the same temperament as an anime character, because these personalities aren't exactly original and always based on something, so there is a chance that they'll meet someone with the same personality. However, if they're also trying to find someone who looks, acts and are exact carbon copies of their anime/manga character obsession then that's going to be a problem.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I may be very obsessed with many different types of anime women, but I have no problem knowing the true beauty of a woman. I may act like a perverted nut that has no hope for humanity, but what you hear on these forums, are a manifestation of my inner thought coming out. I KNOW that women can not only have outter beauty, but can also have a great loving heart. Maybe even more than my own gender sake. :amuse

So before you judge anime pervs, keep in mind that many are also very loving people. :pek

Well you keep doing what you're doing lol. I don't think I can tell you not to do it. I mean freedom to love whatever you want, whether it be cartoons, farm equipment...and in about two states farm animals...

Aren't you that guy who usually says "I have no patience to read something that long"??

The length of the original post is directly tied to the level to which I am disturbed by this.

[Kira Yamato]

Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather I go and stalk some REAL lolis? :iria

On behalf of the children of this world, we thank you for keeping it at that level :oh

[Demon Lord]

I have no problem with it, I even do it sometimes, but it crosses a line, if it controls your life you need help~

[~Zaxxon~]

Well you keep doing what you're doing lol. I don't think I can tell you not to do it. I mean freedom to love whatever you want, whether it be cartoons, farm equipment...and in about two states farm animals...

ahahaha......was that suppose to be a joke? cause it's not. :pek

I know TRUE obsession is VERY real. And god rest those poor souls that never see the true light of day. Most if not all people HAVE the ability to overcome true obsession. I feel it is mostly those who are afraid of reality that give in to fantasy, never thinking that reality will except them.

I am hear to say, that if you have the willpower to abide the rules of society, people will see you as exceptable.

It's all about keeping the balance between imagination and reality in check.







EDIT: Seriously, did you think I was joking? :pek

[Dr. Kirk]

I could have friends if I wanted, but I don't. To begin with I'm shy and anti-social. I can't help that, so I can't go looking for guys to date either. I figure the right guy will come to me. And if he does, I'm never going to compare him and Ash. Ash isn't real. I'll still love him, but I'm not going to obsess over him to the point where it's a competition between him and a real man who can offer me real things.

[rockklee1993]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Tube Knight
Now I understand the notion that people get when they say, "Wow she'd be pretty as a real girl," or "This guy would be so handsome if he were real?" but the magnitude of some of these comments is borderline psychotic almost.
Sometimes, its just fake... Normally after a while they would forget, and its crazy!!

[Amnesia]

If you mean those people who substitute anime characters for real life connections, then I think I can safely say I've met a few via fanfiction sites. As a shitty fanfiction writer, I get some pretty weird messages from people. One person actually talked about some anime characters as if they were real live people with whom she interacted with. It was a disturbing message... Didn't know what to say so I just didn't respond.

But in a way, I think that people appropriating interactions or obsessions over a character to the point is just another form of "imaginary friend" but with a pre-made personality, image, and history. Just more disturbing in people beyond the 10-12 year old range. In a way, the imaginary friend thing seems to fit those with few meaningful social connections. (I mean, you could be extroverted and have a ton of aquaintances but very few real friends which might be on par with an introverted individual also with few actual friends.) That's one way to look at it.

But in as far as obsession, I'd say it's just like any other obsession but the fixation is different. One could have an obsession with a band's music and go to extremes in that regard by scouring hours on end for every known detail and aspect over the lives of the band members and their methods of creating meaningful lyrics and killer rifts. That's probably on the same level as obsession with anime characters, yeah? Obsession is obsession. The subject of obsession, however, has different dimensions of being obsessed over by an individual. Ever seen some of the Mr. Darcy fans for Pride & Prejudice? :/

Alternately, I think just having a favorite character is just like relating to a character in any other literary work. It's not necessarily obessession when you analyze their personality, situation, and traits in order to figure out what makes them work. I'd say something along those lines would actually be more in vein with getting a deeper understanding of other points of view and human nature. In this way, sometimes I think obsession is rather the 'skin-deep' version of the aesthetic appreciation of a character or personality. And even then, there is a known and acknowledged difference between fiction and reality. But that's probably a whole other subject.

That's my two cents worth.

EDIT: Doesn't necessarily mean that obsession and analysis can't overlap though. There will be those who could probably get both to work for them if they tried.

[Anaiya]

I may be very obsessed with many different types of anime women, but I have no problem knowing the true beauty of a woman. I may act like a perverted nut that has no hope for humanity, but what you hear on these forums, are a manifestation of my inner thought coming out. I KNOW that women can not only have outter beauty, but can also have a great loving heart. Maybe even more than my own gender sake. :amuse

So before you judge anime pervs, keep in mind that many are also very loving people. :pek

I appreciate you coming out and being straight up like that, Zax. I was never entirely sure about you and I have to admit that, being a mom myself and a victim of abuse in the past, your pedoluverness was something that made me a bit uncomfortable.

[~Zaxxon~]

I appreciate you coming out and being straight up like that, Zax. I was never entirely sure about you and I have to admit that, being a mom myself and a victim of abuse in the past, your pedoluverness was something that made me a bit uncomfortable.

WOWZERS. O___O

*bows* Yes ma'am.




God, this makes me really want to rethink my life. -_-

[Raiden]

People who are obsessed with anime characters haven't necessarily secluded themselves within a box. Anime characters infatutate humans because they seem to be a perfected form of what humans desire along with having physical traits that others admire...

Also, the anime world is in which these animals live is nothing like the real world. The various anime worlds in which characters live tend to be magical compared to what this world is like. Such a factor also causes infatuation with the characters who live in these worlds.

[PornStoreClerk]

It only become a problem if you mate makes you dress up as jigglypuff and while your having sex you have to say jiggly jiggly..

[Kyasurin Yakuto]

I think a lot of people on this board know that I love Deidara.

However, I'm not delusional thinking he's actually real and I like to have fun a lot with what I say on here.

And I still like real guys. Infact I do basically have a guy, it's just I only know him online so far but I've known him for many years and am planning to meet this coming year.

I love Deidara but I don't think it's unhealthy for me. I like to think about him sometimes when I am alone and I do really really like him but I don't think he actually exists and is going to be my actual husband or anything for real. I can love him without it being bad.

And well, I can't help how I ended up feeling about him.

[Cel3stial]

I have something similar to this.I love Tsunade to the point I worship her...along with other animatical women.But I don't super obsess over them like some do....

[Dreikoo]

I don't think anyone really believes that anime chars are real , it's just use of imagination.


I mean...most hot anime chars would be a huge bother to be in a relationship with so i doubt anyone would want that lol.


The only exception to this rule is chobits....and that you must agree it would be awesome if it was real lol.

[Cell]

I admit, I do find hentai/anime characters attractive, but I know they aren't real. They'll never be real. I like real women and I want to be involved with a real woman. I love perverted hentai for instance, but I'd never perform any like those acts in real life. I do think, "wow, that girl would be pretty in real life", but I also like them for their almost unrealistic personalities. Seriously, women who literally live for male characters. Now, I really don't think many girls in real life live just to please a man she loves, but it's something I find beautiful and loving at the same time.

[Squire of Fate]

3D MEN AND WOMEN ARE PIG DISGUSTING

[chocy]

I know that anime characters aren't real, I am not obsessed over them, and I do have a social life. But hey, I have the liberty to daydream right?:amuse

[Bonten]

I like real life girls over anime ones. :awesome

They're still nice to look at... but that's it.

I did have a crush on Jessica Rabbit when I was a kid but that doesn't count, right?

Right? :ninja

[Outlandish]

i guess we know were most of the hentai drawers came from :nod

[Dog Rapist]

It's a symptom of lack of meaningful social RL connections.

[kidloco]

what the hell is you problem??

if dotn like you is you problem but let otehr life whatever they want

:mad

still i separate my love in anime girls and my real life

i have good luck my fiance love anime like me

more i teach my girl the world of hentai :hehee

[♠Mr.Nibbles♠]

I have to admit, I am a little bit creeped out when I see people posting in threads about how their in love with anime or game characters and not meaning it as a joke. Now I've heard the stupid explanation about things being representations of humans and how the characters are directly linked to what our brain recognize as people...

Now I understand the notion that people get when they say, "Wow she'd be pretty as a real girl," or "This guy would be so handsome if he were real?" but the magnitude of some of these comments is borderline psychotic almost.

The idea that no real person is right for you and that you have to have a cartoon character should say something about you as a person. I mean there are people all over the place and all of them different. Chances are if you can't at least mesh with one of them on some kind of level then something might be wrong with you or more likely than even that, you're not trying.

Confidence isn't the most important thing. But I've got the nerve to get in someone's face if I have to. I've got enough nerve to tell someone "hey you're doing it wrong." Everyone needs to have the social skills to go out into public and meet people, talk to them, and the like.

I might not be the friendliest person, but I can talk to people. I can actually talk to the fairer sex better than I can other men, I just feel more comfortable around them. But that's besides the point, I am starting to think that this infatuation (because that's all it is) with cartoons is partly because a lot of people don't know how to deal with other men or women, even on a level of friendship.

People don't know how to deal with the women and men in different settings that they might be in. We kind of have to have that built in litmus test to tell us what action is right, what tone to take, whether to be formal or informal.

Now this is different than just simply watching Hentai, this is actually thinking that you would want these characters in a relationship. And more often than not the things I hear are about the characters body...the personality and temperament of the character are almost never taken into account. Even though more often than not the characters temperament is unrealistic because most characters belong in an archetype, especially in anime.

So what I am asking is what's the meaning behind this? Is this a new phenomenon? Are these things more common than we think? I can remember having a crush on characters as a child, but a crush meant much less back then than wanting to be near something and feeling weird and nervous. I wonder if in a way this is related to that? Or if any of you find it strange who do possess this quality.


Epic post CTK. I couldn't agree with you more.

[Javier_Reivaj]

Is this thread made because of Creator? I'd like to see what he says about this topic

[muad'dib]

I think It's creepy and sad. :-(
no offense anybody.

[Mojo]

I think It's creepy and sad. :-(
no offense anybody.

I agree. I wonder often what goes through the minds of people that have fetish over anime girls/guys. What do they see that I'm not seeing?

[Kubisa]

If I wanna stick my dick through the third volume of Sailor Moon I will. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!*


:awesome 'lol'.


But yeah I have to agree with CTK here, I can see why some people could feel that a character has an interesting personality or looks 'good', but there is a point whereby it can be taken too far. This point is probably when you make a thread in HoU about how best to propose to Hinata, and start taking down notes on it, or when you start downloading hentai of a charcter.

Though, if that's what floats your boat, who am I to judge you?

*Disclaimer; I have never read Sailor Moon or seen it, and I really doubt I have to power to pierce a book with my penis; sorry, ladies.

[Bunnysmex]

I agree. I wonder often what goes through the minds of people that have fetish over anime girls/guys. What do they see that I'm not seeing?

Agreed :nod
I just like anime as a whole
I prefer to day dream about real people
Like Shannon Leto
<-----
he is ALL MAN :drool
huggles

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Is this thread made because of Creator? I'd like to see what he says about this topic

Like I said, not naming names.

I think It's creepy and sad. :-(
no offense anybody.

Lol, I like how you put that.

I like real life girls over anime ones. :awesome

They're still nice to look at... but that's it.

I did have a crush on Jessica Rabbit when I was a kid but that doesn't count, right?

Right? :ninja

First off, let me say I love your sig!

Second, Jessica Rabbit confused me when I was little. I thought she was real and looked like that, because she was with real people in a movie!

I don't think anyone really believes that anime chars are real , it's just use of imagination.


I mean...most hot anime chars would be a huge bother to be in a relationship with so i doubt anyone would want that lol.


The only exception to this rule is chobits....and that you must agree it would be awesome if it was real lol.

Yeah but don't you think its gone a little far when you imagine yourself marrying and sleeping with them?

[Auraya]

I admit I'm a gaara fangirl, but I'm not obsessed about him, and I don't have daydreams about marrying gaara and what not. I mean real guys >>>>>>> cartoon ones. It's weird being so obsessed over drawings really

[Minorin]

Er, I've never met a person like that. I get obsessed over the characters in anime, but I never imagine them in real life. Maybe I have bad imagination. I only like the characters due to their scripting, behavior, seiyuu (and even if seiyuu, a real life person, it's mostly because of the voice. And if they're pretty, then fine =D. But I'm not exactly interested in meeting them in real life anyway)... anime aspects.

[Mider T]

OP: Why are your posts always so long?

And where's Creator when you need him?

[Yakushi Kabuto]

I don't mind the infatuations unless it turns into spam. Otherwise, I think being overly fond of characters is not particularly bad by itself. It is only becomes an issue if the person neglects real people in favor of the fictional kind. I think it makes a rough sort of sense that people would take such characters up as their ideal person because they are fictional and can be shaped in the fan's mind. Meaning that there's some sort of basis to go on that can be morphed into whatever the person desires. One step above from just dreaming of a price charming.

I know some socially well-adjusted people who fall in love with characters, and others who are not so socially adept. Just one of those things that depends on the person. I believe the perceived link of being a social idiot and being a fanatic is because it is just one of those things that are easily paired together, like video games and nerdiness. Such unfavorable impressions are present because the strongly negative individuals are the ones who are noticed. Those who know better yet still feel for the characters are probably socially savvy enough to keep their obsessions an internal matter, or at least divorced from their usual social group.

[Hemino Hyuuga]

Guilty and loving it....:oh

[~Zaxxon~]

Guilty and loving it....:oh

I LOL'd. :LOS

[Red]

I'm going to be honest and serious here. People who are into anime and prefer to hang around real people instead of sticking to anime are either more realistic and mature or living in a fools paradise.

In anime we have the various character portrayal, Nerd,Punk,tsundere etc. in at least one of these types you'd see the character that appeals to you. Then in most anime, the person you'd are appealed to is usually portrayed in a favorable light at all times basically you must find you're dream girl. In all cases your dream anime girl is always physically attractive.

For you to forsake the ideal character for a second rate real person takes extreme maturity. You have to realize that there is no ideal person and you accept that and make the best you can. If you to forsake your ideal character in the hopes you'll find your "One true love" you're only setting your self up for disappointment.

In my mind there is no such thing as unconditional love in the real world. My future wife would love me for some thing I can give to her, my parents love me because I'm their son, I love my sisters because they're my sisters. Those are the conditions. Have a little experiment. Call your parent right now and ask them "If I wasn't your child, just some stranger on the street would you still love me?" Post your answers. Anime characters portray unconditional love, people see that along with the stuff I talked about earlier and gravitate towards that.

If you like the anime person instead of a normal person then you're a human being. We make things into people and people into things. You can choose to grow out of it and face the real world, or you can choose to deceive your self. All in all it doesn't make you any less of a person.

[Ichigo]

I think It's creepy and sad. :-(
no offense anybody.

I agree. I mean it's a animation not reality to obsess, "worship", or love a animation of a female or male is creepy.

I understand people having favorites but limits people limits. If you are obsessed you maybe need to get more in touch with reality.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I admit I'm a gaara fangirl, but I'm not obsessed about him, and I don't have daydreams about marrying gaara and what not. I mean real guys >>>>>>> cartoon ones. It's weird being so obsessed over drawings really

I'm an Auraya fanboy.

OP: Why are your posts always so long?

And where's Creator when you need him?

My posts usually aren't long at all...that's just a couple of threads.

I think he is avoiding this.

I'm going to be honest and serious here. People who are into anime and prefer to hang around real people instead of sticking to anime are either more realistic and mature or living in a fools paradise.

In anime we have the various character portrayal, Nerd,Punk,tsundere etc. in at least one of these types you'd see the character that appeals to you. Then in most anime, the person you'd are appealed to is usually portrayed in a favorable light at all times basically you must find you're dream girl. In all cases your dream anime girl is always physically attractive.

For you to forsake the ideal character for a second rate real person takes extreme maturity. You have to realize that there is no ideal person and you accept that and make the best you can. If you to forsake your ideal character in the hopes you'll find your "One true love" you're only setting your self up for disappointment.

In my mind there is no such thing as unconditional love in the real world. My future wife would love me for some thing I can give to her, my parents love me because I'm their son, I love my sisters because they're my sisters. Those are the conditions. Have a little experiment. Call your parent right now and ask them "If I wasn't your child, just some stranger on the street would you still love me?" Post your answers. Anime characters portray unconditional love, people see that along with the stuff I talked about earlier and gravitate towards that.

If you like the anime person instead of a normal person then you're a human being. We make things into people and people into things. You can choose to grow out of it and face the real world, or you can choose to deceive your self. All in all it doesn't make you any less of a person.

I don't see how pulling the wool over your eyes makes you more human. Sure there is unconditional love in the real world. People need to realize that anime is fiction. In fiction the conditions are pulled to fit what they need to, so its easy to find unconditional love when all someone has to do is go "there it is I just wrote it".

Unconditional love is easy when as you say everyone is favorable and perfect, but that's not even true. A lot of anime characters are flawed, they might be vain, stuck up, gullible or other things. I can pick out a flaw in any Naruto character, Naruto himself is brash and rushes into things, Kakashi has bad interpersonal skills for the most part, he's a loner. Hinata is overly shy and a bad fighter...yet these are some of the characters people talk about liking...

So they do have flaws. But even then real people are meant to have faults, everyone has them. And true, unconditional love is loving someone despite their faults, and loving someone for them.

This is just a sad cop out, to call anime characters perfect goes on to prove my first point that people concentrate more on the look of the character. They may usually look flawless, but their psyche is a different story.

[Cel3stial]

People who overly obsess over characthers derserve purgatory....

[Kyasurin Yakuto]

I agree. I wonder often what goes through the minds of people that have fetish over anime girls/guys. What do they see that I'm not seeing?

Different people.
Different opinions.
XD

EDIT:

By the way, I don't think Deidara is perfect. He obviously has issues. And I've been able to relate to him in some ways because of that.

I think he is a good thing for me. He makes me feel happier sometimes. And I am interested in a real man also. So I don't think I have a serious issue.

I have seen people who think they are married to a character for real.

Now for me, that part is just a game. Like that FC I am in. I don't believe I am really married to him. I'd want to be if he was real....but that's a different matter than me believing it when he isn't real.

Personally, I think there is a fine line.

There is a way to do it in a healthy way and also a way to do it in an unhealthy way.

Yes, I love Deidara. I admit that and can't help it. I'm however, not blinded.

[kidloco]

i wait purgatory have catgirls <3

:lmao

well abotu the fetish

you not have idea what i have in my mnd and my fiance love me about it

becuase i have much imagination and we love cosplay(more in hentai sesual part), more i who tech my faince the hentai world and she love it

the ttrue is ho w the person balance in fantasy and real

[muad'dib]

i wait purgatory have catgirls <3

:lmao

well abotu the fetish

you not have idea what i have in my mnd and my fiance love me about it

becuase i have much imagination and we love cosplay(more in hentai sesual part), more i who tech my faince the hentai world and she love it

the ttrue is ho w the person balance in fantasy and real
-interrupts-
I can't understand what you're saying. :arg
But I'm glad you two are so happy. :amazed

[Arcueid]

I admit as what in a phase where I though some of the anime characters were seriously hot in my opinion which ranged from Naruto, Itachi, and several other characters from various anime, but I'm smart enough to know when to distinguish characters from anime and real life. Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with people having a fetish for loving anime characters like I said in a similar thread that it's maybe because of the anime characters we see and have a liking towards are kind of like the manifestation of what we want in a perfect man or woman is why alot of people are infatuated with them though of course there are plenty of other reasons.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

-interrupts-
I can't understand what you're saying. :arg
But I'm glad you two are so happy. :amazed

You're not the only one.

[Minorin]

Well, you guys can hold me down and tranquilize me if I ever start proposing to Suzumiya Haruhi, Nagato Yuki, Furukawa Nagisa, Fujibayashi Ryou, Tsukamoto Yakumo, Tessa Testarossa, - okay I'll stop now.

It's not very likely. I think people who do have that problem are either joking or need to actually get professional opinion and help.

[Dreikoo]

Yeah but don't you think its gone a little far when you imagine yourself marrying and sleeping with them?

It's just fantasies man...i mean don't people dream about sleeping with actors or general attractive people who they have no chance in hell actually of sleeping with? It's exactly the same thing.

And being in love with a character although wierd-ish can be possible if the character is developed in such a marvelous or enchanting for that person way. I mean a ton of rl relationships are way more messed up than a lonely guy's obsession lol.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

It's just fantasies man...i mean don't people dream about sleeping with actors or general attractive people who they have no chance in hell actually of sleeping with? It's exactly the same thing.

And being in love with a character although wierd-ish can be possible if the character is developed in such a marvelous or enchanting for that person way. I mean a ton of rl relationships are way more messed up than a lonely guy's obsession lol.

Actors are real people that's what people don't seem to understand when you mention this. You can't compare made up characters to real people because real people exist, they can be spoken to, make responses and do things not written in a script or drawn out for them.

[Dreikoo]

Actors are real people that's what people don't seem to understand when you mention this. You can't compare made up characters to real people because real people exist, they can be spoken to, make responses and do things not written in a script or drawn out for them.

But how can you actually DO all those things if you're a common middle class person? Just because it's possible it doesn't make it any less unlikely for the random X guy to sleep with a famous actor he fantasies about than to sleep with some anime char.


And as far as existing....did you see the second south park episode about imagination land....cause if you have that's gonna save me a lot time of replying to who is realer :P.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

But how can you actually DO all those things if you're a common middle class person? Just because it's possible it doesn't make it any less unlikely for the random X guy to sleep with a famous actor he fantasies about than to sleep with some anime char.


And as far as existing....did you see the second south park episode about imagination land....cause if you have that's gonna save me a lot time of replying to who is realer :P.

That's where your absolutely wrong...its possible. Its more possible that I am going to jump from a plane and fall into some famous actress' vagina, having intercourse with her instantly than for anyone to have sex with an anime character...because its impossible, they don't exist.

[Ennoea]

As for the character obsession, I'm sure most people put it on as a quirk than anything else. Fact is that if you constantly post about a certain character you'll get noticed much quicker and for most then they're stuck with having to live it out. Look at Zaxxon im sure hes not as mch of a perv than he makes it out to be, its nothing but a hyperbole.

And alot of people have social issues and its naive to think that they're obsession with an anime character has anything to do with it. Social Issues sprout from family troubles or past experiences (I should know). And the reason some anime people prefer to hang with people who also enjoy animes because its simple, you have much more to talk about. None of my friends watch animes, so its hard to fill out awkward silences sometimes.

[Dreikoo]

That's where your absolutely wrong...its possible. Its more possible that I am going to jump from a plane and fall into some famous actress' vagina, having intercourse with her instantly than for anyone to have sex with an anime character...because its impossible, they don't exist.

Nope , both are equally impossible , the one is physically impossible and the other is both physically and spiritually impossible....and again we're talking about fantasies here , not actually thinking of actually doing stuff....imagining what it would be if you did....like i dunno...writing a sex scene for a movie or book about chars who are not alive ....erotic scenes in literature of some sort....you get what i mean :P.

[Minorin]

Intermission: If you subscribe to the infinite galaxy sort of thing, then anime characters would exist somewhere in the galaxy. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Okay, continue the debate.

[Dreikoo]

Intermission: If you subscribe to the infinite galaxy sort of thing, then anime characters would exist somewhere in the galaxy. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Okay, continue the debate.

They exist all right...just in a different sense...like how love or freedom exist but you cant' actually touch em , they're ideas....sexy humanlike ideas :P.

[Minorin]

They exist all right...just in a different sense...like how love or freedom exist but you cant' actually touch em , they're ideas....sexy humanlike ideas :P.

Ehh I meant the theory where everything has to exist, since the universe (is argued) to be infinite.

Give me Nagato or give me death.
I Nagisa you.

Hmmm... :notrust

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I don't understand, alot of people have social issues and its naive to think that they're obsession with an anime character has anything to do with it. Social Issues tend to sprout from family troubles or past experiences. And the reason some anime people prefer to hang with people who also enjoy animes because its simple, you have much more to talk about.

As for the character obsession, I'm sure most people put it on as a quirk than anything else.

Just because condition A is present doesn't mean that B will always be. Social problems can cause many outcomes, and there are many kinds of social problems. They don't always stem from family, it could be from environment, friends/peers or metal issues...

[Dreikoo]

Ehh I meant the theory where everything has to exist, since the galaxy (is argued) to be infinite.

Give me Nagato or give me death.
I Nagisa you.

Hmmm... :notrust

I've not herd of that theory but since the definition of infinite is this unending thing....even if there are infinite planets there still can be stuff left out....since infinite can't be defined and can have all those other things except anime chars while still remaining infinite because even without aniem chars there's still infinite possibilities left. :P

If you do math you know that no matter what number you reduce infinite by it still remains infinite.

[helpmenow316]

well any obsessions is very dangers even if its anime cartoon fantasy.Because allot of people are on the bored line of becoming somethign that they truly wouldn't want to became..Which kinda of means the people who are in to loli stuff..The fact that you guys are attracted to little girls..Is kinda of bad..Because it can easily manifest in to something in to this real world...Even more so virgins around 20-40 years old. Odds are you guys are not with in those ages.(i hope not.)
I mean.. what would stop a guy if he was truely obested to go to a con..And some how attack a 12-13 year old cos-player... which happen to dress up as your anime girl love thing...

I do admit i do think hinata is cute.Just for the fact that i had a long history of dating shy girls with big boobs. Which my wife is one of them...

Yes it always carry some weight on what type of people you are attractive too you....But you have to stay with in limits.. If you have a girl friend close to your age that does cosplay and like to fool around with you that great.....But if one of you guys turn out to be a pedo who hurts some little girl..Am coming after you.

[Jagon Fox]

I would never consider myself obsessed. In a way I personally believe though I can't speak really for anybody, that it provides a safe "place" for your fantasies, and also that some people can really relate to the character, or to that charachter has qualities they wish they had in themselves. I'll give my personal exmaples of each. I've really started to like Tsunade, because she is such a strong, confident commanding woman, I've always had difficulty asserting myself, so I like her qualities. I can relate to Naruto's character because no matter what the circumstances he always keeps trucking towards his goal, despite starting out as an outcast and underdog, I'm also very perserverant in moving towards my goals and I was never well-liked. I also have an attraction to the some of the cold psychotic characters like Gaara and Itachi which provides a safe place for to daydream and fantasize in a fanfic a little bit because there's no way in hell I'd ever actually date some cold psychotic mudering psycho-spaz! It's not unlike people who daydream about a character in a book (think steamy romance novel) plus that is how alot of art and stories gets started really. However I do have friends, I socialize, ask anyone I'll talk your ears off about any subject under the sun.(in case you couldn't tell :wink) I have a healthy relationship with a great guy, and I take care of things that need taking care of, like my kid, housework, working on my career, school etc.as long as people can differentiate between reality and fantasy, I'm sure they will be fine. Sorry this was so long. Hope I didn't suck the fun out of this thread.

[Jagon Fox]

I like real life girls over anime ones. :awesome

They're still nice to look at... but that's it.

I did have a crush on Jessica Rabbit when I was a kid but that doesn't count, right?

Right? :ninja

:laughevery guy I've ever met has admitted to having a crush on Jessica Rabbit.

[Minorin]

:laughevery guy I've ever met has admitted to having a crush on Jessica Rabbit.

Who's Jessica Rabbit? :huh

[Jagon Fox]

That's where your absolutely wrong...its possible. Its more possible that I am going to jump from a plane and fall into some famous actress' vagina, having intercourse with her instantly than for anyone to have sex with an anime character...because its impossible, they don't exist.

owww! as a chick ctb! That sounds painful!:oh

[Jagon Fox]

Who's Jessica Rabbit? :huh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Rabbit

[~Flippy]

I just think actually 'falling in love' or 'loving' (of course, I don't mean simply having favor for, but rather having an emotional crush or something) isn't realistic, and therefore I don't like it when people practice it. A lot of hearts will be broken, for stupid and obvious reasons, when they realise that the characters are only moving pictures.

Now, I have NOTHING against having arousal or sexual interest in animation or other graphicals. I feel that, if it weren't right, then the authors would have made their characters so sexy for no reason. Sadly, I'm willing to bet that at least a quarter or all manga/anime consumers in the US buy their materials only for sexual stimulation alone (i've witnessed tons of bpeople like this).

IDK, personal preference. But I LOL at emotional shipping.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Intermission: If you subscribe to the infinite galaxy sort of thing, then anime characters would exist somewhere in the galaxy. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Okay, continue the debate.

The infinite galaxy thing is kind of dumb because by now one galaxy would have found how to cross over to others and used it to enslave the other people...

[Minorin]

The infinite galaxy thing is kind of dumb because by now one galaxy would have found how to cross over to others and used it to enslave the other people...

Okay. Well, it's not my theory. It's one made by professional scientists from great universities. They wouldn't have conjured it out of their creative minds. =)

[~Flippy]

Oh geez, this is evolving into another philosophical thread ><

[Minorin]

Oh geez, this is evolving into another philosophical thread ><

At least there's better spelling here, and we haven't resulted in flaming... yet. =D

[Pilaf]

It only become a problem if you mate makes you dress up as jigglypuff and while your having sex you have to say jiggly jiggly..

Well shit..there goes my saturday night.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Nope , both are equally impossible , the one is physically impossible and the other is both physically and spiritually impossible....and again we're talking about fantasies here , not actually thinking of actually doing stuff....imagining what it would be if you did....like i dunno...writing a sex scene for a movie or book about chars who are not alive ....erotic scenes in literature of some sort....you get what i mean :P.

One is highly improbable...the other is impossible.

[maximilyan]

Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather I go and stalk some REAL lolis? :iria

:laugh damn.. exposure. anyway a lot of people seem to live out fantasies through anime.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Okay. Well, it's not my theory. It's one made by professional scientists from great universities. They wouldn't have conjured it out of their creative minds. =)

Would these be the same scientists who crashed a billion dollar probe into Mars? Or the ones who not too long ago had everyone subscribing to a theory of Global Cooling...or maybe they're the ones who every year change whether eggs are good for us or bad for us...

And as I understand, the theory just as philiosophical as it is scientific. And the thing is that when you look at this in a strictly scientific method, what you'd be saying is that with our own mind's we could essentially control the entire outcome of the universe! That's quite a claim.

The theory lacks testability. Not only that, but the theory simply contradicts Occam's Razor which basically states "The simplest answer is usually the right one."

What's the most simple answer? At the present time Anime characters are not real and there's no high chance of them becoming real in the near future.

[Wolfarus]

Im mostly in agreement with the OP here.. Its one thing to have a fantasy view of anime chars. If they were real, id be giddy with the anticipation of trying to get a date with temari, tatsuki or ryoko. But they arnt real, and never will be. They could never reach out and physically touch you, or cook a meal with you, or take a walk with you, ect. Id never pass up the chance to have fun with a real woman vs staying at home with my anime and fantasizing.

There is nothing wrong with having a fantasy life, im sure just about all of us DO infact have one. But most of us also have the ability to tell the diff between fantasy and reality, and act accordingly.

Im sure there are people out there, for whatever reason, CANT get out and have a real social life (maybe its a mental disorder, or they simply dont have the courage to get out and meet people) or they simply prefer their fantasy women / men to the real thing. If thats what they want for themselves, we really shouldnt judge them publicly. We can think of them what we want to in our private thoughts, sure. But not judge them publicly. As i see it, their choice of lifestyle when it comes to relationships dosnt have ANY sort of impact on me, so why should i care or publicly pass judgment on what they do?

Though, if god / heaven does exist, and he lets me choose my eternal reward for being a good boy, im sure asking him to bring a character or 2 to life for me is something i'll think about :hehee

[Nicky The Ninja]

I don't mind the infatuations unless it turns into spam.

[~Flippy]

u know those kids in japan who buy the body pillow covers that look like their favorite anime characters, and have 'intercourse' with them?

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

u know those kids in japan who buy the body pillow covers that look like their favorite anime characters, and have 'intercourse' with them?

Is there an end to this pointless statement?

[Splintered]

Well, there's a difference between fanaticism, and falling in love with an ideal. Perhaps the person is attached to the character persona and the aesthetics and expressing that it somehow translates as "amg im in lurve with him." Being remarkably fond of characters in fictional sense, not just manga but celebrities, characters in novels, characters in movies, etc isn't a horrible thing, nor does it necessarily correlate with social awkwardness or retardation. A lot of other stuff is silliness. Someone who goes "AMG, I MARRIED THIS CHARACTER ^0^" is just an internet fad thing, it doesn't mean that someone is actually married to a character.

That being said, I've seen some worriesome stuff on the net. Like... "Omg, she's so hot and sexy, i wish i culd kiss her and make her mine" stuff that creeps me out. I've also run into people who fall in love with character so much, they get emotionally involved. I mean, there's a difference in "Stop insulting Sasuke you bastards," they are attached to their character and don't like flaming. But I've seen people emotionally distraught over things like... Hidan dying. And them saying they cried and kicking Shikamaru fans out of their fanclubs and stuff...

I've also run into fans that actually believe they are soul mates of their favorite characters. Like... believes they have a legitimate spiritual bond that borderlines otakin. It's really odd stuff.

For those of you who don't know what otakin is

http://community.livejournal.com/from_fiction/profile

Welcome to internet.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Well, there's a difference between fanaticism, and falling in love with an ideal. Perhaps the person is attached to the character persona and the aesthetics and expressing that it somehow translates as "amg im in lurve with him." Being remarkably fond of characters in fictional sense, not just manga but celebrities, characters in novels, characters in movies, etc isn't a horrible thing, nor does it necessarily correlate with social awkwardness or retardation. A lot of other stuff is silliness. Someone who goes "AMG, I MARRIED THIS CHARACTER ^0^" is just an internet fad thing, it doesn't mean that someone is actually married to a character.

That being said, I've seen some worriesome stuff on the net. Like... "Omg, she's so hot and sexy, i wish i culd kiss her and make her mine" stuff that creeps me out. I've also run into people who fall in love with character so much, they get emotionally involved. I mean, there's a difference in "Stop insulting Sasuke you bastards," they are attached to their character and don't like flaming. But I've seen people emotionally distraught over things like... Hidan dying. And them saying they cried and kicking Shikamaru fans out of their fanclubs and stuff...

I've also run into fans that actually believe they are soul mates of their favorite characters. Like... believes they have a legitimate spiritual bond that borderlines otakin. It's really odd stuff.

For those of you who don't know what otakin is

http://community.livejournal.com/from_fiction/profile

Welcome to internet.

Yeah I know those kinds of fans. But crying over a character's death isn't a big deal. I mean its like crying when Old Yeller dies, or when Bambi's mom dies.

[Sasori-puppet#66]

Some anime fans honestly scare me. I watched a Deidara video and read the comments (because I like reading way too much) and I was actually terrified at some of the comments.

There were girls that actually claimed to be his room-mate. There were girls who claimed they were going to get married. There were girls squealing and shouting "FUCK ME!". It was horrifying.

Some people are truly scary.

[Pilaf]

Some anime fans honestly scare me. I watched a Deidara video and read the comments (because I like reading way too much) and I was actually terrified at some of the comments.

There were girls that actually claimed to be his room-mate. There were girls who claimed they were going to get married. There were girls squealing and shouting "FUCK ME!". It was horrifying.

Some people are truly scary.

Maybe they were going through puberty. People are at their most stupid then.

[Red]

I don't see how pulling the wool over your eyes makes you more human. Sure there is unconditional love in the real world. People need to realize that anime is fiction. In fiction the conditions are pulled to fit what they need to, so its easy to find unconditional love when all someone has to do is go "there it is I just wrote it".

Unconditional love is easy when as you say everyone is favorable and perfect, but that's not even true. A lot of anime characters are flawed, they might be vain, stuck up, gullible or other things. I can pick out a flaw in any Naruto character, Naruto himself is brash and rushes into things, Kakashi has bad interpersonal skills for the most part, he's a loner. Hinata is overly shy and a bad fighter...yet these are some of the characters people talk about liking...

So they do have flaws. But even then real people are meant to have faults, everyone has them. And true, unconditional love is loving someone despite their faults, and loving someone for them.

This is just a sad cop out, to call anime characters perfect goes on to prove my first point that people concentrate more on the look of the character. They may usually look flawless, but their psyche is a different story.
Did you read my last statement? People make things into people and people into things. Porn turns a woman into a sex objects, people personifies there pets and inanimate objects. It's human nature. Same goes for anime. their is no cop out. Anime is fiction, but their personalities sure as hell isn't and thats what people are attracted to.

Do you know why people prefer anime people? They have qualities found in them that normal people don't have. And people like that. When I said perfect I didn't mean flawless, I meant most suitable. In a real world setting you have to find a chick that most fits to your ideal woman, you can't find it so you have to lower your standards and make do with it. Thats not the case with people who have these crushes.

Your view of the human relationship is too naive.

[reddik]

I've never met a person like that.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Did you read my last statement? People make things into people and people into things. Porn turns a woman into a sex objects, people personifies there pets and inanimate objects. It's human nature. Same goes for anime. their is no cop out. Anime is fiction, but their personalities sure as hell isn't and thats what people are attracted to.

Do you know why people prefer anime people? They have qualities found in them that normal people don't have. And people like that. When I said perfect I didn't mean flawless, I meant most suitable. In a real world setting you have to find a chick that most fits to your ideal woman, you can't find it so you have to lower your standards and make do with it. Thats not the case with people who have these crushes.

Your view of the human relationship is too naive.

Turn it around. That argument is so silly you know it...you're acting like everyone who has realistic standards is naive...not realism is a trait displayed by the mature.

Thinking that since you can't have it in real life you have to pout about what you have an not move on is ass backwards and the sign of someone being naive.

Anime personalities are very fictional. They're embellished versions of how real people act.

[Red]

Turn it around. That argument is so silly you know it...you're acting like everyone who has realistic standards is naive...not realism is a trait displayed by the mature.

Thinking that since you can't have it in real life you have to pout about what you have an not move on is ass backwards and the sign of someone being naive.

Anime personalities are very fictional. They're embellished versions of how real people act.
Wait wut? It seems you didn't really read my first post. Go re-read it to avoid complications. I thought I complimented people who were realistically inclined.
I'm going to be honest and serious here. People who are into anime and prefer to hang around real people instead of sticking to anime are either more realistic and mature or living in a fools paradise.

And when did being infatuated with a persona equal to sucking in life? I hope you realize your making a blanket generalization here and an insulting one at that. I also disagree about the "Moving backward" point, it's one thing to go out in the world with a preconceived notion of a bed of roses and it's another thing to realize the world sucks and distance yourself from it. It's human and it's their choice.

Anime persona are fictional, but they'll outlive you, they'll be more famous than you'll ever be and they'll still attract droves of fans. They're not corrupt fabrications of what human beings are, they're the ideal fabrications of what humans want to be, brave,kind,compassionate smart etc.

I've answered your question.

[Ichigo]

Anime persona are fictional, but they'll outlive you, they'll be more famous than you'll ever be and they'll still attract droves of fans.

Maybe just in your world, but here in reality that is not a certain thing. Also comparing a cartoons "popularity" to that of a human makes no sense. It's no different that relating cartoons or anime to be life-like or human.

They're not corrupt fabrications of what human beings are, they're the ideal fabrications of what humans want to be, brave,kind,compassionate smart etc.

Again, maybe that's just in your world.

I don't look up to anime or cartoons characters as something I'd want to achieve to be. If you want to be brave, kind, smart, and so on because an anime character is you need a reality check.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Wait wut? It seems you didn't really read my first post. Go re-read it to avoid complications. I thought I complimented people who were realistically inclined.


And when did being infatuated with a persona equal to sucking in life? I hope you realize your making a blanket generalization here and an insulting one at that. I also disagree about the "Moving backward" point, it's one thing to go out in the world with a preconceived notion of a bed of roses and it's another thing to realize the world sucks and distance yourself from it. It's human and it's their choice.

Anime persona are fictional, but they'll outlive you, they'll be more famous than you'll ever be and they'll still attract droves of fans. They're not corrupt fabrications of what human beings are, they're the ideal fabrications of what humans want to be, brave,kind,compassionate smart etc.

I've answered your question.

You seriously put too much stock in anime. I don't even like the idea of comparing real people to anime characters. Real people are not fabrications at all, they're the real thing. Anime imitates life and pulls out things to embellish them. Its the embellishments that make them interesting.

Heroes exist in the real world, they're in the world around us right now. Anime characters can be heroic, as in displaying heroic characteristics, but they're not heroes because they're not real. They're just another way of passing down a more pure and controlled idea of what a hero is. Its like Beowulf or James Bond, not realistic, but we recognize heroic characteristics in these icons.

Plus as I have said before, much of the time people concentrate on the looks of these anime characters...and even with the looks, the looks are a cleaned up version of what a real person would look like.

The beauty of real people is that they have flaws and differences and that they're extremely complex, more complex than most characters in any book or movie. People don't just fall into an archetype or set, they're parts of different sets, play different roles and have all sorts of things going on inside of their heads.

[natwel]

How did we learn to draw anime characters, where do the designs come from, that's right real people. anime chars don't exist from their own side their design is derived of real people.

remember in old times, there were no cameras, when henry VIII fell in love with anne of cleeves, he fell in love with the painting of her before he actually met her, yes he fell in love with a drawing, not an actual photo, not of the girl herself. It's of little difference from a professionally drawn and soft shaded picture of Itachi done in photo shop.

Nevertheless I don't understand how we fall for anime characters, I really don't. But still you have 2d drawings which we consider as desirable parteners. 3D characters they actually look like real people i understand, but 2D it amazes me.

When I date real people, i forget about anime characters completely, so if there is a real boy i like i'll take it. But when i don't see a boy for a while I go back into the habit of thinking about drawings I think it has a purpose to stop me feeling lonely.

Anime chars do have personality (and voices) that we can love. (only the voice is of a real person who looks different from the char they are doing) but we relate the voice to the drawing

we KNOW they aren't real but our feelings towards them act like they are. i'm not god, i don't know how it works.

what you may call imperfection I may call cute e.g.
naruto rushing into things - I like his energetic passion
kaashi being a loner - hey no competition he's single and available

Kakashi has bad interpersonal skills for the most part, he's a loner.this made me laugh though, he could do with talking a bit more and coming from behind that book. he seems to deny real courtship in favour of that book, maybe he's a bit like us, by us I mean people who like drawings.

[Meiousei]

It's ultimately just the missteps in the evolution of literary appreciation. Being able to feel bound to a character in a literary work has always been seen as a positive thing; it means that the author has done their work and given you a reason to invest in and follow their story. Obviously, with characters whose romantic tendencies and thoughts are explored, or whose qualities are presented as attractive features, sometimes this causes a swooning response. The writer tries to make you feel like that character would be someone you'd feel strongly for if they were real.

This used to manifest itself in very broad terms in the dark ages, when the heroic epic was still in style. This is literally where the now cliche notion of girls being princesses waiting for their knight-in-shining-armor comes from. This promoted various virtues as the 'standard' a man had to live up to, and the dominant literature of the day was all to blame (or credit, if you so choose).

Over the years, that standard has changed in large part due to whatever popular romances were depicted by the leading writers and artists of the day. Jane Austen had a vice grip on what was considered romantic and love-worthy for a while. She still does, in the hearts of some, and since television turned screenplays into the art of the masses and all the media have become progressively more populist at some level, it is that much easier to sell to people what is desirable.

Very involved manga-readers may acquire these ideas solely from the manga they read, and frankly, that it takes more specific forms (individual character obsessions) with that crowd than with others (book readers, TV watchers, etc,) is because in manga they not only get to see what the character thinks and says, but also constantly have the character in solid form before them. That they are fictional is a distinction that is moot to someone whose primary artistic intake is anime and manga. They simply don't have the perspective to understand why that is problematic.

[Minorin]

Would these be the same scientists who crashed a billion dollar probe into Mars? Or the ones who not too long ago had everyone subscribing to a theory of Global Cooling...or maybe they're the ones who every year change whether eggs are good for us or bad for us...

And as I understand, the theory just as philiosophical as it is scientific. And the thing is that when you look at this in a strictly scientific method, what you'd be saying is that with our own mind's we could essentially control the entire outcome of the universe! That's quite a claim.

The theory lacks testability. Not only that, but the theory simply contradicts Occam's Razor which basically states "The simplest answer is usually the right one."

What's the most simple answer? At the present time Anime characters are not real and there's no high chance of them becoming real in the near future.

Wow, I missed this reply.

There was no need to be riled up, though. I was only joking. =)

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

It's ultimately just the missteps in the evolution of literary appreciation. Being able to feel bound to a character in a literary work has always been seen as a positive thing; it means that the author has done their work and given you a reason to invest in and follow their story. Obviously, with characters whose romantic tendencies and thoughts are explored, or whose qualities are presented as attractive features, sometimes this causes a swooning response. The writer tries to make you feel like that character would be someone you'd feel strongly for if they were real.

This used to manifest itself in very broad terms in the dark ages, when the heroic epic was still in style. This is literally where the now cliche notion of girls being princesses waiting for their knight-in-shining-armor comes from. This promoted various virtues as the 'standard' a man had to live up to, and the dominant literature of the day was all to blame (or credit, if you so choose).

Over the years, that standard has changed in large part due to whatever popular romances were depicted by the leading writers and artists of the day. Jane Austen had a vice grip on what was considered romantic and love-worthy for a while. She still does, in the hearts of some, and since television turned screenplays into the art of the masses and all the media have become progressively more populist at some level, it is that much easier to sell to people what is desirable.

Very involved manga-readers may acquire these ideas solely from the manga they read, and frankly, that it takes more specific forms (individual character obsessions) with that crowd than with others (book readers, TV watchers, etc,) is because in manga they not only get to see what the character thinks and says, but also constantly have the character in solid form before them. That they are fictional is a distinction that is moot to someone whose primary artistic intake is anime and manga. They simply don't have the perspective to understand why that is problematic.

Not the same thing as literary appreciation because as I said before, manga characters do not look real, and on top of that a lot of the time people like them just for looks. No one reads a book that's shitty and talks about how hot the girl in it looks, that's just asanine. So comparing literary appreciation to an almost obsessive fantasy is a little much.

And two there are comic books and other forms of literature where the character is present in a solid form, and I don't think I have ever seen anyone fall in love with Power Girl or Rogue...

It seems to be more specific to anime than anything else and its not the same as someone admiring traits in a character. Someone wanting to have sex with Tenten is different than someone admiring her for not giving up. Someone saying the character they most identify with is different than someone saying that this character is the only person for them and their soul mate...

Sorry but anime characters don't have a soul, neither do characters in movies or books. The people who play them might, but they're real people who are just paid actors. Trying to justify this as normal or special behavior that makes you more mature is even sadder than strongly believing in this.

[Jagon Fox]

I never cried over old yeller....but i cried over bambi's mom! my defense, I was like 8.

Some anime fans honestly scare me. I watched a Deidara video and read the comments (because I like reading way too much) and I was actually terrified at some of the comments.

There were girls that actually claimed to be his room-mate. There were girls who claimed they were going to get married. There were girls squealing and shouting "FUCK ME!". It was horrifying.

Some people are truly scary.

now those kinds of people are disturbing

It's ultimately just the missteps in the evolution of literary appreciation. Being able to feel bound to a character in a literary work has always been seen as a positive thing; it means that the author has done their work and given you a reason to invest in and follow their story. Obviously, with characters whose romantic tendencies and thoughts are explored, or whose qualities are presented as attractive features, sometimes this causes a swooning response. The writer tries to make you feel like that character would be someone you'd feel strongly for if they were real.

This used to manifest itself in very broad terms in the dark ages, when the heroic epic was still in style. This is literally where the now cliche notion of girls being princesses waiting for their knight-in-shining-armor comes from. This promoted various virtues as the 'standard' a man had to live up to, and the dominant literature of the day was all to blame (or credit, if you so choose).

Over the years, that standard has changed in large part due to whatever popular romances were depicted by the leading writers and artists of the day. Jane Austen had a vice grip on what was considered romantic and love-worthy for a while. She still does, in the hearts of some, and since television turned screenplays into the art of the masses and all the media have become progressively more populist at some level, it is that much easier to sell to people what is desirable.

Very involved manga-readers may acquire these ideas solely from the manga they read, and frankly, that it takes more specific forms (individual character obsessions) with that crowd than with others (book readers, TV watchers, etc,) is because in manga they not only get to see what the character thinks and says, but also constantly have the character in solid form before them. That they are fictional is a distinction that is moot to someone whose primary artistic intake is anime and manga. They simply don't have the perspective to understand why that is problematic.



good points

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

We have the edit post button for a reason...

[Meiousei]

Not the same thing as literary appreciation because as I said before, manga characters do not look real, and on top of that a lot of the time people like them just for looks. No one reads a book that's shitty and talks about how hot the girl in it looks, that's just asanine. So comparing literary appreciation to an almost obsessive fantasy is a little much.

Their skewed appreciation of the human body with fantasies of nigh-unattainable idealized traits is no different than what Greco-Roman artists and sculptors did for centuries. Every society creates false ideal physiques--perpetuated by art--and personalities--perpetuated by literature.


And two there are comic books and other forms of literature where the character is present in a solid form, and I don't think I have ever seen anyone fall in love with Power Girl or Rogue...

A) American comics are rarely as character-driven as the typical manga, and B) You haven't been playing very close attention. Some people get very infatuated with those comic characters.


It seems to be more specific to anime than anything else and its not the same as someone admiring traits in a character. Someone wanting to have sex with Tenten is different than someone admiring her for not giving up. Someone saying the character they most identify with is different than someone saying that this character is the only person for them and their soul mate...

Which is why I stated that it was a misstep along those lines in the beginning. The elaboration that followed was trying to explain why this happens. It's not like the media isn't doing anything to perpetuate these ideals as attractive, some people just take it too far and it's not pathetic so much as regrettable, and could be solved by encouraging the person to expose themselves to other human standards than just the ones presented in manga.

Sorry but anime characters don't have a soul, neither do characters in movies or books. The people who play them might, but they're real people who are just paid actors. Trying to justify this as normal or special behavior that makes you more mature is even sadder than strongly believing in this.

I have no idea where you got this from my post. Normal or special? Makes people more mature? It boggles the mind. I specifically stated that at the beginning of the post that it was a small deviance (by extent) from feelings and reactions that artistic media encourage, and have encouraged for ages.

[Minorin]

Just how many people actually do think about having sex with an anime character? -_-

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Just how many people actually do think about having sex with an anime character? -_-

There's multiple threads about it in the Bathhouse...believe me.

[Minorin]

There's multiple threads about it in the Bathhouse...believe me.

E-ehh... >_>.

I've never been there, but aren't they just... kidding... somehow...?

[Auraya]

E-ehh... >_>.

I've never been there, but aren't they just... kidding... somehow...?
I've not been in the bath house either but some people aren't kidding

[Dreikoo]

E-ehh... >_>.

I've never been there, but aren't they just... kidding... somehow...?

That's why hentai was made....cause there's tons of people wanting to do that...there's even some games that are like first person and are made in a way to almost fully simulate dating and the afterward parts :P.


And even in not such a dirty way , most important in the story anime girls are depictions of the anime maker's dream girls , so of course they'd be attractive for other people too >_>. I mean why'd they wear such sexy clothes and have perfect features/figures etc....you've seen many fugly with bad teeth main female anime chars ?

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

That's why hentai was made....cause there's tons of people wanting to do that...there's even some games that are like first person and are made in a way to almost fully simulate dating and the afterward parts :P.


And even in not such a dirty way , most important in the story anime girls are depictions of the anime maker's dream girls , so of course they'd be attractive for other people too >_>. I mean why'd they wear such sexy clothes and have perfect features/figures etc....you've seen many fugly with bad teeth main female anime chars ?

Not sure, but they could stand to make them look a little more realistic, Its silly when there's 12 girls and their all super attractive.

I've not been in the bath house either but some people aren't kidding

Yep.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5308/weaboosanimexv9.jpg

[Dreikoo]

Not sure, but they could stand to make them look a little more realistic, Its silly when there's 12 girls and their all super attractive.





Buy why do that? In anime , characters can become gods and destroy planets and even define existence , them being supper attractive is only the tip of the iceberg of "things not realistic".

Also , like i said , those women are all the dreamgirls of the anime creators and who wouldn't like their fantasies to sorta come to life and maybe inspire others too.

And in the end , people like pretty girls more than regular girls and that's the point , and it's proof of success and of correct imagination if people fall in love with your characters or even just want to sleep with your fantasies. :laugh

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Buy why do that? In anime , characters can become gods and destroy planets and even define existence , them being supper attractive is only the tip of the iceberg of "things not realistic".

Also , like i said , those women are all the dreamgirls of the anime creators and who wouldn't like their fantasies to sorta come to life and maybe inspire others too.

And in the end , people like pretty girls more than regular girls and that's the point , and it's proof of success and of correct imagination if people fall in love with your characters or even just want to sleep with your fantasies. :laugh

Its a sad truth, especially considering that these girls aren't even real. People shouldn't want to sleep with cartoons...its a little silly, well no its really stupid...there we go. But I guess thats just my opinion.

[Red]

You seriously put too much stock in anime. I don't even like the idea of comparing real people to anime characters. Real people are not fabrications at all, they're the real thing. Anime imitates life and pulls out things to embellish them. Its the embellishments that make them interesting.

Heroes exist in the real world, they're in the world around us right now. Anime characters can be heroic, as in displaying heroic characteristics, but they're not heroes because they're not real. They're just another way of passing down a more pure and controlled idea of what a hero is. Its like Beowulf or James Bond, not realistic, but we recognize heroic characteristics in these icons.

Plus as I have said before, much of the time people concentrate on the looks of these anime characters...and even with the looks, the looks are a cleaned up version of what a real person would look like.

The beauty of real people is that they have flaws and differences and that they're extremely complex, more complex than most characters in any book or movie. People don't just fall into an archetype or set, they're parts of different sets, play different roles and have all sorts of things going on inside of their heads.
See this is where me and you clash, I'm cynical you're not. I think people help you for selfish reasons not for the sake of helping you think people can be good too. You think character portrayals are just corruptions of the real thing, I think the exact opposite. It's just a difference in principles.

Plus the part about looks? If it's just the looks then why do people concentrate on a particular character? They're all cute so why pick and choose? Personality plays a major part in it.
Maybe just in your world, but here in reality that is not a certain thing. Also comparing a cartoons "popularity" to that of a human makes no sense. It's no different that relating cartoons or anime to be life-like or human.



Again, maybe that's just in your world.

I don't look up to anime or cartoons characters as something I'd want to achieve to be. If you want to be brave, kind, smart, and so on because an anime character is you need a reality check.Whats this my world nonsense? Did you read any of my posts? Or is it that you're just rambling on.

I never said anything about making anime life like, or comparing popularity. All I said was that people are attracted to the ideal persona the characters portray.

If you don't have an idol whether real, animated or just a stage name is your own cup of coffee, but saying people that do should just grow up is just plain conceited and arrogant of you.

[Dreikoo]

Its a sad truth, especially considering that these girls aren't even real. People shouldn't want to sleep with cartoons...its a little silly, well no its really stupid...there we go. But I guess thats just my opinion.

It's a cultural difference thing i think , you just referring to anime as cartoon sorta yells that :P. (if you don't wanna say anime say animation or Japanese animation , cartoon is animation out of japan)

I grew up watching anime and anime have sexual humor too so i found it very natural for them to be possible to be viewed as attractive.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

See this is where me and you clash, I'm cynical you're not. I think people help you for selfish reasons not for the sake of helping you think people can be good too. You think character portrayals are just corruptions of the real thing, I think the exact opposite. It's just a difference in principles.

Not really...this isn't the chicken and the egg, real people came first...even if the anime characters are perfect...perfection is something humans weren't meant to have. A perfect human would be corrupted because humans by nature aren't perfect. Therefore they are the corruptions.

Plus the part about looks? If it's just the looks then why do people concentrate on a particular character? They're all cute so why pick and choose? Personality plays a major part in it.
Whats this my world nonsense? Did you read any of my posts? Or is it that you're just rambling on.
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I did read them, but you have to understand that by some mind boggling social epidemic many people feel like you and I have to respond to them all at once, so everything in a post isn't meant for you, like the souls thing is not.

Oh and yeah, the people might pick a different girl because she taller, or blonde or because she has the biggest tits or butt. Who knows.

It's a cultural difference thing i think , you just referring to anime as cartoon sorta yells that :P. (if you don't wanna say anime say animation or Japanese animation , cartoon is animation out of japan)


Anime is a cartoon... but all cartoons are not anime. Its like saying all 8s are numbers, but all numbers are not 8. And not all of the characters people want to have sex with are from animes. I know a guy who wants to do Kim Possible.

[Dreikoo]

Anime is a cartoon... but all cartoons are not anime. Its like saying all 8s are numbers, but all numbers are not 8. And not all of the characters people want to have sex with are from animes. I know a guy who wants to do Kim Possible.

Lol then that's just weird cause she's just lines like all cartoons....she doesn't have the curves of anime girls lol...

Is he more than 14 years old?


As for anime , what i said above i read in a book detailing the origin of anime etc. and cartoon is animation made out of japan.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Lol then that's just weird cause she's just lines like all cartoons....she doesn't have the curves of anime girls lol...

Is he more than 14 years old?


As for anime , what i said above i read in a book detailing the origin of anime etc. and cartoon is animation made out of japan.

Look animes are just Cartoons...and Kim Possible is no more fake than any other cartoon out there, which includes an anime. A cartoon is an animated show...of any kind. Whether it be CG, like Beast Wars, drawn like most are, or half and half like Futurama.

[Byakkö]

Hmm. An interesting thread, to say the least, but I think you're thinking a little too deep on this.
Maybe it's just me, and yes, I have seen the people you are referring to *cough*creator*cough*, but in my case, the obbession is much more a fantasy, if the character I'm 'infatuated' with was real, I highly doubt I'd even think of having a normal relationship with him.
No, for me it's more like, I wish there was a guy who looked like him and had some of his personality traits. I don't think about marrying him or even anything of the sort, it's more of a sex thing. A crush, only a much less painful crush.
An anime character isn't going to change, like someone else, or refuse you. With this in mind, I have an 'infatuation', but at the same time I have a normal life, normal REAL LIFE relationships, and I don't think about it that much, really only when I'm on NF, lol.

[Xell]

Well, I guess if you can relate to a certain character, it's okay to wish they were real. Actually being in love with them is a little bit strange though.


;_; I wish Konata were real.

[Byakkö]

Okay, I have a point to make.

There are many millions of men (and women lol) who watch porn, and would like to have sex with the people in the vids. Some may even be in love with them.
How about all the people in love with celebrities? Celebs are really not much more real than an anime character, they are immpossible to be with, they all too often have fake on camera personalities.
I ask you, how are people infatuated with anime characters so much worse than this? True, an actor/actress is at least a real human being, with real feelings and such, but they're still unreachable to the viewer who may be in love with them.
How about all the people who feel emotional watching movies?
Are they mental cases, for feeling sympathy for a person who is faking and not real?

I know I'm carrying your thread way out there, but my point is, where do you draw the line in disecting the personality traits of people who love anime chars? I personally feel they aren't much worse or strange than people who have a crush on a movie star or sports icon, ect.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Okay, I have a point to make.

There are many millions of men (and women lol) who watch porn, and would like to have sex with the people in the vids. Some may even be in love with them.
How about all the people in love with celebrities? Celebs are really not much more real than an anime character, they are immpossible to be with, they all too often have fake on camera personalities.
I ask you, how are people infatuated with anime characters so much worse than this? True, an actor/actress is at least a real human being, with real feelings and such, but they're still unreachable to the viewer who may be in love with them.
How about all the people who feel emotional watching movies?
Are they mental cases, for feeling sympathy for a person who is faking and not real?

I know I'm carrying your thread way out there, but my point is, where do you draw the line in disecting the personality traits of people who love anime chars? I personally feel they aren't much worse or strange than people who have a crush on a movie star or sports icon, ect.

You're restating arguments that have already been stated...

Arguments I also put to rest.

[Dreikoo]

Yes i said that too in the previous pages, although i beg to differ , "they're not real" barely put to rest the fact of human nature namely "being attracted to imaginary ideas of sexy women".


I actually remember you saying "it was your opinion" at one part.


And again , the second episode of south part about imagination land more than answers the question on who is more real.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Yes i said that too in the previous pages, although i beg to differ , "they're not real" barely put to rest the fact of human nature namely "being attracted to imaginary ideas of sexy women".


I actually remember you saying "it was your opinion" at one part.


And again , the second episode of south part about imagination land more than answers the question on who is more real.

No its not my opinion...CARTOONS ARE NOT AND NEVER WILL BE REAL! That's fact...if a cartoon becomes real, its not a cartoon...its real. And actors and actresses are real, living people, even when acting a part, they're still a real person on screen. Getting turned on by a real girl acting like someone else is different than getting turned on by a drawn girl someone drew to be something.

So yeah, I sunk your battleship. Its dumb to suggest that cartoons could ever be as real as live action. The first thing you notice about a cartoon is...this is animated, even in the back of your head.

[Dreikoo]

No its not my opinion...CARTOONS ARE NOT AND NEVER WILL BE REAL! That's fact...if a cartoon becomes real, its not a cartoon...its real. And actors and actresses are real, living people, even when acting a part, they're still a real person on screen. Getting turned on by a real girl acting like someone else is different than getting turned on by a drawn girl someone drew to be something.

So yeah, I sunk your battleship. Its dumb to suggest that cartoons could ever be as real as live action. The first thing you notice about a cartoon is...this is animated, even in the back of your head.

But the idea of the imaginary girl is true but the actor is just pretending , the role the actor plays is more fake than the anime character because the actor has a "true" life but all that the anime char is is that one role , the true role .

It's better to like a fake truth than a true lie.


And since you apparently have not seen that episode i will recap the point of it for ya...

Characters like superman or Santa clause are not real , they're imaginary , but they've been around for more than more of us have and will be long after we're gone .More people in the whole world know them than know the name of some american actor or the 23rd american president.

They've impacted and shaped the world and what we perceive as "truth" much more than most common real people ever could. In that sense they're more real than most real people.

So they may be imaginary but because they're imaginary that doesn't mean that they do not have any attributes real things have.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

But the idea of the imaginary girl is true but the actor is just pretending , the role the actor plays is more fake than the anime character because the actor has a "true" life but all that the anime char is is that one role , the true role .

It's better to like a fake truth than a true lie.


And since you apparently have not seen that episode i will recap the point of it for ya...

Characters like superman or Santa clause are not real , they're imaginary , but they've been around for more than more of us have and will be long after we're gone .More people in the whole world know them than know the name of some american actor or the 23rd american president.

They've impacted and shaped the world and what we perceive as "truth" much more than most common real people ever could.

So they may be imaginary but because they're imaginary that doesn't mean that they do not have any attributes real things have.

Animes are not real...how could drawings made to look unrealistic and do plenty of unrealistic things be more realistic than people? Doesn't make sense. And I don't buy the whole truth is perception thing here because anyone's perception can tell them cartoons aren't real.

Why do you think it is so many members here admit to watching and like porn and real actors? Why do you think that to most people the idea of cartoons being sexual is only humorous, not sexy?

"You've all been brain washed by the actors into thinking this is real life" sorry but that won't fly. I know girls who look as good as actresses and they're just as real as anything else. And many people who like an actor or actress aren't in love with the character they're playing, they like them as they are in real life. If they met them, and the person was a jerk, they'd probably stop liking them.

I know people who have met actors and singers and stopped liking them because they're jerks. Thing is, anime characters aren't real, they don't have a real life. All they have is what's plotted down and drawn out for them.

Your arguments treading on thin ice...hope you've learned to swim...

[Minorin]

"You've all been brain washed by the actors into thinking this is real life" sorry but that won't fly. I know girls who look as good as actresses and they're just as real as anything else. And many people who like an actor or actress aren't in love with the character they're playing, they like them as they are in real life. If they met them, and the person was a jerk, they'd probably stop liking them.

I know people who have met actors and singers and stopped liking them because they're jerks. Thing is, anime characters aren't real, they don't have a real life. All they have is what's plotted down and drawn out for them.

He makes a good point. I have yet to meet anyone who's in love with a character from the movie, but there are plenty of people in love with the actor.

But the idea of the imaginary girl is true but the actor is just pretending , the role the actor plays is more fake than the anime character because the actor has a "true" life but all that the anime char is is that one role , the true role .

It's better to like a fake truth than a true lie.

The role the actor plays isn't more fake. It individually may cause them problems, i.e. identity crisis, but it doesn't have much influence on how we view created characters. My opinion is that all created characters are simply true lies. There is no fake truth.

[Dreikoo]

Animes are not real...how could drawings made to look unrealistic and do plenty of unrealistic things be more realistic than people? Doesn't make sense. And I don't buy the whole truth is perception thing here because anyone's perception can tell them cartoons aren't real.

Why do you think it is so many members here admit to watching and like porn and real actors? Why do you think that to most people the idea of cartoons being sexual is only humorous, not sexy?

"You've all been brain washed by the actors into thinking this is real life" sorry but that won't fly. I know girls who look as good as actresses and they're just as real as anything else. And many people who like an actor or actress aren't in love with the character they're playing, they like them as they are in real life. If they met them, and the person was a jerk, they'd probably stop liking them.

I know people who have met actors and singers and stopped liking them because they're jerks. Thing is, anime characters aren't real, they don't have a real life. All they have is what's plotted down and drawn out for them.

Your arguments treading on thin ice...hope you've learned to swim...

Did you not read anything i wrote ? That reply is not a reply to anything i posted above , yes anime chars are not real , you can see me saying that many times on the above post....still though they DO affect reality and they do affect it MORE than most real people do. And they will continue to do that more and better much after we're gone.


And yes what they have is what the writer plots down for them but that has been enough for them to transform the world like they have so i wouldn't think lightly of such a thing.

Religion science and most if not all important achievements of our society were created on equal basis.

Do you really put the ability to touch something or perceive it as real above using that somethings' message/true self even if that message is so much more important than you and most other common folk , which has shaped the society which allows you to differentiate between real and imaginary things in the first place?

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Did you not read anything i wrote ? That reply is not a reply to anything i posted above , yes anime chars are not real , you can see me saying that many times on the above post....still though they DO affect reality and they do affect it MORE than most real people do. And they will continue to do that more and better much after we're gone.


And yes what they have is what the writer plots down for them but that has been enough for them to transform the world like they have so i wouldn't think lightly of such a thing.

Religion science and most if not all important achievements of our society were created on equal basis.

Do you really put the ability to touch something or perceive it as real above using that somethings' message/true self even if that message is so much more important than you and most other common folk and has shaped the society which allows you to differentiate between real and imaginary in the fiorst place?

Bullshit...its obvious I read your post, as the poster above you has already shown.

[Minorin]

Do you really put the ability to touch something or perceive it as real above using that somethings' message/true self even if that message is so much more important than you and most other common folk , which has shaped the society which allows you to differentiate between real and imaginary things in the first place?

With no offense intended, do you mind rewriting that? You keep jumping around your points with no transitions. And that's a run-on sentence. It's really hard to read.

[Dreikoo]

Bullshit...its obvious I read your post, as the poster above you has already shown.

Yes i know you did >.> , i was making a point because you didn't reply to anythign included to the post ....you just started saying somethign totally irrelevant about how actors are fake because they look perfect or w/e garbage you were saying....anyways that reply had NOTHING in common with what you were replying to and was totally irrelavant.


The role the actor plays isn't more fake. It individually may cause them problems, i.e. identity crisis, but it doesn't have much influence on how we view created characters. My opinion is that all created characters are simply true lies. There is no fake truth.

Actors act , they pretend , that means that what they do is not truth , it's a lie . So since actors are real , their characters are really untrue. Imaginary chars do not exist though so they do not have the ability of doing something untrue thus the real lie is worse than the fake truth because the fake truth is just nothing...it's like comparing 0 to a negative #........the negative # will always be less.


With no offense intended, do you mind rewriting that? You keep jumping around your points with no transitions. And that's a run-on sentence. It's really hard to read.

If there were no imaginary things people would not posses the concept of imaginary. Those things granted us the ability to perceive the untrue/imaginary and you must admit that people thinking of/about things that are not true has affected our society more than most if not all real people.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Yes i know you did >.> , i was making a point because you didn't reply to anythign included to the post ....you just started saying somethign totally irrelevant about how actors are fake because they look perfect or w/e garbage you were saying....anyways that reply had NOTHING in common with what you were replying to and was totally irrelavant.




Actors act , they pretend , that means that what they do is not truth , it's a lie . So since actors are real , their characters are really untrue. Imaginary chars do not exist though so they do not have the ability of doing something untrue thus the real lie is worse than the fake truth because the fake truth is just nothing...it's like comparing 0 to a negative #........the negative # will always be less.

Actors are just a vessel for imaginary characters. They're a conduit for people to see stories played out. All movies start out as stories, as an idea in someone's head and grow into what they are. When you speak of fake truth, fake truth is a lie, imagination. Truth is absolute. Fake truth is an oxymoron.

I see your line of reasoning, if it can be called that, where you say since actors are pretending, they're less real than the anime or cartoon in its natural state of being a fantasy.

But animes still have actors, actors who are not only pretending to be someone they're not, but who are also pretending to look completely different from how they look. Some women act as boys, some men act as women, some of them act as creatures impossible by nature, some of them act as people impossible in the realm of genetics...

So your argument kind of shoots itself in the foot.

[Dreikoo]

Actors are just a vessel for imaginary characters. They're a conduit for people to see stories played out. All movies start out as stories, as an idea in someone's head and grow into what they are. When you speak of fake truth, fake truth is a lie, imagination. Truth is absolute. Fake truth is an oxymoron.

I see your line of reasoning, if it can be called that, where you say since actors are pretending, they're less real than the anime or cartoon in its natural state of being a fantasy.

But animes still have actors, actors who are not only pretending to be someone they're not, but who are also pretending to look completely different from how they look. Some women act as boys, some men act as women, some of them act as creatures impossible by nature, some of them act as people impossible in the realm of genetics...

So your argument kind of shoots itself in the foot.
Those are voice actors , they're just for added fun , all anime chars start out in manga and the manga have no actors playing their chars, only the mangaka's idea.


And they don't' exactly act , they just read what the character said in the manga in the way HE said it , not the way they like to do it like actors do. It's not like they add anything other that the voice to the char and that too is of the mangaka's choosing of "what sort of voice should my characters have".

A characters seiyuu (voice actor) does not directly affect the character at all , if anything he becomes a part of it , so in that sense , since the actor is only a part of the anime char (only the voice) , the anime char is even more real than his seiyuu.


Also , why do you think most live action versions of anime suck and are hated by most people when the same people loved the anime? If anime chars were just people "being" those chars like you claim then wouldn't it be the same if not better for real people to be in the place of fake drawings. Right? :P I wonder why it's not the case and why all live action productions of anime fail miserably.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Those are voice actors , they're just for added fun , all anime chars start out in manga and the manga have no actors playing their chars, only the mangaka's idea.


And they don't' exactly act , they just read what the character said in the manga in the way HE said in , not the way they like to do it like actors do. It's not like they add anything other that the voice to the char and that too is of the mangaka's choosing of "what sort of voice should my characters have".

A characters seiyuu (voice actor) does not directly affect the character at all , if anything he becomes a part of it , so in that sense , since the actor is only a part of the anime char (only the voice) , the anime char is even more real than his seiyuu.


Also , why do you think most live action versions of anime suck and are hated by most people when the same people loved the anime? If anime chars were just people "being" those chars like you claim then wouldn't it be the same if not better for real people to be in the place of fake drawings. Right? :P I wonder why it's not the case and why all live action productions of anime fail miserably.

Not true, some anime have no manga to go with them. Others have a concurrent manga.

Even so, before there were porn tapes, there were magazines. You said people in porn and movies are less realistic than people in anime. Here we go now, we have people in magazines and people in manga. Manga by definition has no color, which already makes them seem less realistic.

On top of which we have comics of other variety...why aren't they as attractive. Comics drawn by DC and Marvel are much more related to realistic looking people.

On top of which, if you want the perfect personality, many super heroes are much better off than manga characters, some of them are flawless. The characters voice actor gives the character personality with the way they deliver their lines. People talk about how the American Shikamaru differs from the Japanese. The Japanese version has the slow drawl.

This effects character. I like how you tell me voice actors don't matter because there is the mange, then go on to tell me why they don't matter because they don't effect the characters.

Could it be that they do matter...so much so that people hear them when they read the manga?

Live action animes suck just the for the same reason most television shows, movies and animes suck...because they're badly made and written.

To the part about voice actors not acting, what do you think actors do? They just read what's said in the way the character needs to say it and do the actions in the way the character needs to. You've present far too many frivolous arguments, none of which stave off the fact that anime characters are not real and its not normal to be in love or infatuated with them.

[Dreikoo]

Not true, some anime have no manga to go with them. Others have a concurrent manga.

Even so, before there were porn tapes, there were magazines. You said people in porn and movies are less realistic than people in anime. Here we go now, we have people in magazines and people in manga. Manga by definition has no color, which already makes them seem less realistic.

On top of which we have comics of other variety...why aren't they as attractive. Comics drawn by DC and Marvel are much more related to realistic looking people.

On top of which, if you want the perfect personality, many super heroes are much better off than manga characters, some of them are flawless. The characters voice actor gives the character personality with the way they deliver their lines. People talk about how the American Shikamaru differs from the Japanese. The Japanese version has the slow drawl.

This effects character. I like how you tell me voice actors don't matter because there is the mange, then go on to tell me why they don't matter because they don't effect the characters.

Could it be that they do matter...so much so that people hear them when they read the manga?

Live action animes suck just the for the same reason most television shows, movies and animes suck...because they're badly made and written.

To the part about voice actors not acting, what do you think actors do? They just read what's said in the way the character needs to say it and do the actions in the way the character needs to. You've present far too many frivolous arguments, none of which stave off the fact that anime characters are not real and its not normal to be in love or infatuated with them.

That's cause i never tried to do that , i was addressing their importance not them being real or not or if being in love with em is normal since i've already said they're not multiple times.

[azn_fan_gurl]

I am not infatuated with anime or manga. I simply have 300 anime/manga-related pictures in my Photobucket account, ready for use...

Whatever. No one really talks about anime the way they do here in real life (I hope) anyways.

But if you are an anime/manga fan, and you talk about it out there in 'the real world', the worst thing you can hear if you're infatuated with it is... "Chill, it's just some stupid cartoon."

:notrust :mad

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I am not infatuated with anime or manga. I simply have 300 anime/manga-related pictures in my Photobucket account, ready for use...

Whatever. No one really talks about anime the way they do here in real life (I hope) anyways.

But if you are an anime/manga fan, and you talk about it out there in 'the real world', the worst thing you can hear if you're infatuated with it is... "Chill, it's just some stupid cartoon."

:notrust :mad

I've seen people talk about it that way in real life, its not pretty though.

[Telling Lies]

dude there is some serious discussion on here about dudes being in love with anime chicks. guys that usually are, usually cant get a chick in real life. so anime characters are what they have to fall back on. I think its a disease of some sort.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/Shdwtrance/Gifs/XJZMZLMPCUBMZDCJDUU5AGMHGLSYNUYH.gif

[~Zaxxon~]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/Shdwtrance/Gifs/XJZMZLMPCUBMZDCJDUU5AGMHGLSYNUYH.gif

Give it a rest, OP. -__-

[natwel]

Obviously, if they are not real is irrelevant, people fancy game characters, they are close enough to real humans, they look like humans, sound like humans, act like humans, and guess what, people fall in love with humans.

I did direct x programming you need vertex processing, if the graphics card does not support it you can do a virtual version which is software processing.

sotware vertex processing
hardware vertex processing

hardware is the real mc coys, but software does the same job. You may wonder why the hardware one is needed, well you see that means that the graphics card does the vertex calculations freeing up the CPU to do other jobs, but with software because the graphics card can't do it, the CPU has to do the work

another example

strawberry juice
strrawberry juice drink
they both taste like strawberry , maybe slightly different, but one is real one is fake

now for our topic

flamboyant anime characters
real dull humans

same principle really, they have their advantages and disadvantages, anime characters are in the group of strawberry juice and software vertex processing, not the real thing but provides for when the other is not available.

sorry for the barmy science lecture but that's how I see it

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Obviously, if they are not real is irrelevant, people fancy game characters, they are close enough to real humans, they look like humans, sound like humans, act like humans, and guess what, people fall in love with humans.

I did direct x programming you need vertex processing, if the graphics card does not support it you can do a virtual version which is software processing.

sotware vertex processing
hardware vertex processing

hardware is the real mc coys, but software does the same job. You may wonder why the hardware one is needed, well you see that means that the graphics card does the vertex calculations freeing up the CPU to do other jobs, but with software because the graphics card can't do it, the CPU has to do the work

another example

strawberry juice
strrawberry juice drink
they both taste like strawberry , maybe slightly different, but one is real one is fake

now for our topic

flamboyant anime characters
real dull humans

same principle really, they have their advantages and disadvantages, anime characters are in the group of strawberry juice and software vertex processing, not the real thing but provides for when the other is not available.

sorry for the barmy science lecture but that's how I see it

That all seems way too complicate -_-.

[Yellow]

Because people like fantasies and fantasies entrap people.

I am attracted to some anime characters but I certainly don't "love" them. But I guess if loving an anime character makes people happy then I won't stand in their way because I really don't care.

[Cecil]

Guilty as charged.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Because people like fantasies and fantasies entrap people.

I am attracted to some anime characters but I certainly don't "love" them. But I guess if loving an anime character makes people happy then I won't stand in their way because I really don't care.

Well I will...don't like it when anyone is reasonably happy or comfortable with their sexual preference for cartoons.

Guilty as charged.
Hmm :LOS

[Dreikoo]

Well I will...don't like it when anyone is reasonably happy or comfortable with their sexual preference for cartoons.




Why are you catholic? :nuts

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Why are you catholic? :nuts

I actually am, but I don't remember there being anything in Church about wanting to fuck cartoons...I guess that they thought that'd be a given.

[Dreikoo]

I actually am, but I don't remember there being anything in Church about wanting to fuck cartoons...I guess that they thought that'd be a given.

Catholics in general have problems with being comfortable with any kind of sexuality..i mean i'm an orthodox so i'm not too fine with gays either but we have no problems against fantasies lol.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Catholics in general have problems with being comfortable with any kind of sexuality..i mean i'm an orthodox so i'm not too fine with gays either but we have no problems against fantasies lol.

No they don't actually. That's bullshit fed to everyone by liberals. Besides gays, incest, and fucking animals, the Catholic Church has no problem with anything done in the bed room between one man and woman if they're married.

[mystictrunks]

The people probably just know boring/asshole-ish members of whatever gender they're attracted to in real life. Can't see how cartoons can appeal on a "romantic" level.

[natwel]

That all seems way too complicate -_-.
I'm just trying to explain that there are real versions and artificial versions of lots of things, and in some cases people like the artificial version just as much as the real version or even more, an anime character is a glorified artificial human, period.

[Telling Lies]

I actually am, but I don't remember there being anything in Church about wanting to fuck cartoons...I guess that they thought that'd be a given.

:rotfl dude classic

[Pu'ar]

I may be very obsessed with many different types of anime women, but I have no problem knowing the true beauty of a woman. I may act like a perverted nut that has no hope for humanity, but what you hear on these forums, are a manifestation of my inner thought coming out. I KNOW that women can not only have outter beauty, but can also have a great loving heart. Maybe even more than my own gender sake. :amuse

So before you judge anime pervs, keep in mind that many are also very loving people. :pek
Is this really Zaxxon???

[Elle]

Well I will...don't like it when anyone is reasonably happy or comfortable with their sexual preference for cartoons.


Hmm :LOS

At OP - For some reason this ridiculous comment made me giggle :P Just the wording of it is priceless... This is an interesting thread btw

I do have mild 'crushes' on a few anime characters ~ which only members here would know about :ninja. The completely unattainable (e.g. fictional characters), yet in my imagination 'perfect' in looks, personality, behavior and even shortcomings... intrigues me somewhat. It's a decent outlet for fantasy, especially if you're married WITH kids :amuse

The only way the issue the OP is referring to would bother me is if someone I knew personally was completely obsessed to the point of having very little to no social/personal interactions/relationships in RL. As for people on NF?... I would think most of us are here because we have some sort of affinity for one or more of the Naruto characters and enjoy answering sometimes outlandish questions about our likes/dislikes about them. Yes, I've noticed a few members that appear to go overboard with their 'affection' but who knows what goes on in their RL? NF is a decent place to relax and a be a bit of yourself that others that you care about in RL might not necessarily share an interest in or dare I say 'give you shit about :amuse

[natwel]

well i'm here because everyone is interested in the same things, no one I know in real life likes naruto and is up to date with shippuden and manga, my friend colin hasn't watched past the haku saga and doesn't even know who orochimaru is, or anyone who debuts after the haku saga. we watched full metal panic together though which was great.

the only person who comes close to having my interests is catherine, who introduced me to anime, lots of other anime fans aren't necessarily into Naruto, but catherine is in newcastle and i'm lucky to talk to her via gmail im since we no longer go to school.

Yeah, that's it

[Einstein]

I don't see why this poses as a problem for you. By calling out people with sexual preferences to cartoons you are denying their right to have sexual freedom. People can like what they want to, as long as it is not physically/emotionally damaging to the other person (rape, pedophilia, etc). I don't even see why it bothers you. Are you a cartoon?

What someone does in their personal time, alone, in their bed/dreams is none of your concern. Please don't bitch about it. They aren't hurting anyone. I don't see L filing a lawsuit because a bunch of girls dream of covering his body in whipped cream and strawberries and licking them off in a seductive matter whilst he is handcuff to a bed of nails.

And thanks for generalizing. Not everyone with an obsession with cartoon characters is single and unable to talk to actual people.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I don't see why this poses as a problem for you. By calling out people with sexual preferences to cartoons you are denying their right to have sexual freedom. People can like what they want to, as long as it is not physically/emotionally damaging to the other person (rape, pedophilia, etc). I don't even see why it bothers you. Are you a cartoon?

What someone does in their personal time, alone, in their bed/dreams is none of your concern. Please don't bitch about it. They aren't hurting anyone. I don't see L filing a lawsuit because a bunch of girls dream of covering his body in whipped cream and strawberries and licking them off in a seductive matter whilst he is handcuff to a bed of nails.

And thanks for generalizing. Not everyone with an obsession with cartoon characters is single and unable to talk to actual people.

It bothers me when we try to have serious discussions about relationships, women, men, gender issues and sex and all I get is how this anime character would be the perfect woman, or how this one is their dream girl. It never seems to be the smart or sweet ones either. Its always one with huge tits, skimpy clothes and a bad attitude.

And actually it does effect me. Do you know how many people think that if you watch anime at all your like that? Do you know how many girls think all anime fans are hentai loving pervs. Not to mention that its one more thing that sets impossible standards in the heads of people for the opposite sex.

If you're looking for a guy who's just like Spike from Cowboy Bebop...tough luck. People aren't really like that. Its making it harder with all of the preconceptions about anime watchers and the ones other anime watchers have. I admit, I don't really see myself dating any huge anime fans, hasn't happened yet.

But mentality that there's someone out there who will be like your favorite character is messing up dating for lots of people on both sides.

[Einstein]

First off, the ones with huge boobs and skimpy clothes? Sexual preference, if not simply a personal preference. You don't have to like how someone looks or what they wear for someone else to like them. "Not the good ones, either" is strictly your opinion, and if they like that, they don't care. If someone liked a 'real' girl with skimpy clothing and large breasts, you wouldn't have a problem with it? The only difference is dimensions.

And yes I do know. Been there, heard that. But that's a stereotype. Get over it. You're black. You can't read, eat chicken, only listen to rap music, right? No, but that's the stereotype. You're a man. You think about sex 24-7, you think women are inferior, your penis is your second brain, right? No, but that's the stereotype. You going to call out all blacks, and men, and tell them that it's bothering you just because of what other people assume? And if you say it different, it really isn't. There is no difference, so why is it just animetards that are sexually attracted to anime characters that you have it out for? Because they can change, whereas you can not stop being black, or a man? Sorry, but people can not change what they are sexually attracted to.

When people say "Tsunade would be my dream girl" that does not mean they are on a witchhunt to find a "Tsunade". They're saying that someone with the same looks and mannerisms would be nice to spend the rest of their life with. Hey, if I found a old blonde that looked 20-something with a nice chest and could punch the shit out of somebody to spend the rest of my life with, I'd be wowed, too. Did I call her Tsunade? No. I'm not saying I want to spend the rest of my life with a cartoon, I'm saying I want to spend the rest of my life with someone who acted like that certain cartoon character. What's the difference? The fact that I didn't say Tsunade?

And oh yeah, I've seen a Spike. 'Cept his hair was dark brown. He smoked, too. Hot thang, yeah he was. Even though the chance is really, really slim, there are people who do/could look like anime characters, especially with the proper clothing. And if I say I'm looking for somebody who looks and acts exactly like Orochimaru, I'm not limiting my preferences. Sure, that's unrealistic, but I'm not denying anyone else the opportunity to date me, provided I liked them. I'm just keeping my eyes open for someone sort of like my "dream guy".

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

First off, the ones with huge boobs and skimpy clothes? Sexual preference, if not simply a personal preference. You don't have to like how someone looks or what they wear for someone else to like them. "Not the good ones, either" is strictly your opinion, and if they like that, they don't care. If someone liked a 'real' girl with skimpy clothing and large breasts, you wouldn't have a problem with it? The only difference is dimensions.

And yes I do know. Been there, heard that. But that's a stereotype. Get over it. You're black. You can't read, eat chicken, only listen to rap music, right? No, but that's the stereotype. You're a man. You think about sex 24-7, you think women are inferior, your penis is your second brain, right? No, but that's the stereotype. You going to call out all blacks, and men, and tell them that it's bothering you just because of what other people assume? And if you say it different, it really isn't. There is no difference, so why is it just animetards that are sexually attracted to anime characters that you have it out for? Because they can change, whereas you can not stop being black, or a man? Sorry, but people can not change what they are sexually attracted to.

Sadly two out of three of those things were right. I don't think women are inferior...but the rest is spot on.

Here's the point, it becomes a burden on the rest of us. Unlike other stereotypes there's not even a good part. I mean being a man people might think something good about you, being black they might think "yeah maybe he's packing" but being an anime fan is already looked down upon, even now.

I'm not normally one to care about what others think, which is funny since I am constantly telling others what I think. But I think its important to be able to hear something from someone else and either take it and use it or truncate it with the rest of the junk.

If people want to watch hentai and pine over anime girls then that's their business. But I have the right to discuss it talk about what I think about it.

[RockGuitarist]

There's no restrictions when it comes to love/affection/crushes. You can have a crush, or whatever on anyone you wish. Sure, anime may be drawings on paper, but to the people who do have crushes on certain characters, they're alot more than just that. If you don't understand, or find the concept unbearable, ignore it, go on ith your own life. Let these people go on with their life.

[Einstein]

CTK:
I never denied your right to talk about it, I just don't see how it personally effects your life to the point where you assume the people guilty of the action have a problem. Stereotypes will always be a part of your life, you'll get used to it.

And "maybe he's packing"? I'd care less about that, especially if the rest of the stereotypes were calling me loud, ignorant, and that I smelled funny.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

CTK:
I never denied your right to talk about it, I just don't see how it personally effects your life to the point where you assume the people guilty of the action have a problem. Stereotypes will always be a part of your life, you'll get used to it.

And "maybe he's packing"? I'd care less about that, especially if the rest of the stereotypes were calling me loud, ignorant, and that I smelled funny.

Smelled funny? Never heard that one. What I was just saying was that there are good and bad parts to most other stereotypes...most...I mean theres usually something there. But whether it out weights the bad is also a factor.

[Einstein]

I've heard it. Not said to me directly, but many white supremacists have said that blacks smelled bad. I think I smell quite nice, but whatever.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I've heard it. Not said to me directly, but many white supremacists have said that blacks smelled bad. I think I smell quite nice, but whatever.

I got voted as smelling really nice on facebook.

[Arissaries]

I absolutely love anime male characters... but I do not seek to try to bring them to life and stuff. Rather, I'd pray for a real-life someone to be like the character a little. There are also just not good enough boys around here for me to love. I only fangirl about anime characters because its fun to do and I like being crazy. These anime crushes though don't effect my thoughts on love interests at all though.

I do agree that it does seem borderline psychotic... I agree that it is strange. I just love Deidara and Utakata for their appearance and personality. Its kind of stimulating to just watch other characters on a screen, etc... (stalking. LOL.) I'm not sure why people choose to love anime/game/movie characters so much.

It could be a new phenomenon. I definitely have this "quality" of liking anime characters. Hell, my Zac Efron obsessed friend asked me "Why do you like those anime characters anyway? They're not real." and I just personally think liking animation characters because its a lot more imaginative and less realistic than celebrity crushes/obsessiveness. (In my opinion, celebrity crushes are stupid.)

I sometimes wonder what it would be like if Utakata were real and than I feel so happy or something. But I for surely have my heart open to real-life guys... thing is: there are none that will accept me for who I am or just don't approach me (and here where I live: a lot of guys could be my 3rd or 4th cousin).

Maybe people just LOVE LOVE anime characters so much because there's barely any other optional people around, etc. Maybe. I wouldn't say this quality is psychotic. It would only be psychotic if the fangirl/fanboy felt a powerful urge to kill all other obsessive fans of their character, etc.

For me though, I only mean my love for an anime character as a half-joke and half-serious kind of thing. I laugh about how fangirly I behave and stuff. Its fun to do. For me that is. :hurr

[Dr. Kirk]

^ Looks like I'm psychotic in your book ;33

Shit, I posted in this thread before I stopped posting here a couple of years ago.
I could have friends if I wanted, but I don't. To begin with I'm shy and anti-social. I can't help that, so I can't go looking for guys to date either. I figure the right guy will come to me. And if he does, I'm never going to compare him and Ash. Ash isn't real. I'll still love him, but I'm not going to obsess over him to the point where it's a competition between him and a real man who can offer me real things.
<3 Ash

[Kirsty]

Im not like that :33 so I dont know

[Mαri]

I could have friends if I wanted, but I don't. To begin with I'm shy and anti-social. I can't help that, so I can't go looking for guys to date either. I figure the right guy will come to me. And if he does, I'm never going to compare him and Ash. Ash isn't real. I'll still love him, but I'm not going to obsess over him to the point where it's a competition between him and a real man who can offer me real things.

You can't always expect the man to come to you. Sometimes the girl has to do it too:zaru.

Some people on this forum really disturb me with their obsessions on here with Naruto and other characters in general. I could name a few but I'd rather not :x . The reason is they don't have any self confidence to actually have a real relationship with real people. Most of them are too shy or just too scared of pursuing one. An obsession with anime characters is just a safe guard. They know the character can't deny them, and they don't have to be socially accepted.

[???]

I am indifferent towards the matter.

[Dr. Kirk]

You can't always expect the man to come to you. Sometimes the girl has to do it too:zaru.
That would help if I were a girl :tomato
Some people on this forum really disturb me with their obsessions on here with Naruto and other characters in general. I could name a few but I'd rather not :x . The reason is they don't have any self confidence to actually have a real relationship with real people. Most of them are too shy or just too scared of pursuing one. An obsession with anime characters is just a safe guard. They know the character can't deny them, and they don't have to be socially accepted.
Guilty as charged!

[Nesha]

What about the members of the Marry an Anime Guy/Girl FC?

[Y]

Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather I go and stalk some REAL lolis? :iria

Real lolis know Chris Hansen:pek

Fuck I got nothing to say about this but keep it to yourself.

[Jυstin]

Anime has made me realize that I'm a pedophile :(

[RyRyMini]

Luckily I grew out of that. Now, I can see some anime characters and think it would be cool to be their friend, which is still somewhat sad, but I don't hold my real friends to anime based standards.

[Barinax]

I never had an animation infatuation... except there was one time I had a weird dream, which made me like a character more and I woke up wishing she was real. That bugged me, because barely anything happened in the dream. She was just there and all.

Then again, I may have had anime "idols". I don't look up to them or anything but there are parts of them that I see in myself or I want to see in myself, and I begin to identify with them. It doesn't last long though. I don't watch that much anime anymore though >_> now there are real people that have taken their place, people I know personally or celebrities.

I don't really know.

[troublesum-chan]

Like others have said, its not always because these people can't deal with real men/women.

Its because they become infatuated with a caricature, an ideal that many real people cannot hope to achieve, and arguably shouldn't try to.

And in the society we live in, the way we are bombarded by media and other similar caricatures of people, are most of us not infatuated with ideals that are simply not realistic?

[Drunkenwhale]

Well CTK, I must say this is a good topic. You've got my reps.

To be honest, I've been noticing threads appearing lately that deal with the physical attractiveness of certain Naruto characters. I can't exactly form a good opinion because I know they are fictional, not real. And it has been starting to creep me out how many people accent the growth of a certain Shrinking Violet, a character I believe actually would be raped if people were to gain access to her.

As far as infatuation goes, most of the time I believe that these people go head over heels, wishing for these fictional characters to be real because they are too into the fetishes that bring the fans to the characters to notice that there are real people on the other side of the monitor.

These forums are a means of communication, with not one, ten, or twenty but thousands of people all over the world, and it would be rather easy to actually use these forums to meet and talk to real people who are more than the anime characters they are infatuated with.

Or hell, just use eHarmony or Geek2Geek if you guys want to do dating...

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Well CTK, I must say this is a good topic. You've got my reps.

To be honest, I've been noticing threads appearing lately that deal with the physical attractiveness of certain Naruto characters. I can't exactly form a good opinion because I know they are fictional, not real. And it has been starting to creep me out how many people accent the growth of a certain Shrinking Violet, a character I believe actually would be raped if people were to gain access to her.

As far as infatuation goes, most of the time I believe that these people go head over heels, wishing for these fictional characters to be real because they are too into the fetishes that bring the fans to the characters to notice that there are real people on the other side of the monitor.

These forums are a means of communication, with not one, ten, or twenty but thousands of people all over the world, and it would be rather easy to actually use these forums to meet and talk to real people who are more than the anime characters they are infatuated with.

Or hell, just use eHarmony or Geek2Geek if you guys want to do dating...

Sure, I would say that the quality most often desired in female anime characters when people talk about them is humility. It's hardly like the strongest, most determined females are the most desired. I spoke at length about this in another thread, while someone else pointed out that in pairings the female character is usually the character attacked when one of them is attacked on their merits.

Which I don't think I ever noticed, but I think it goes to show that the weakness is usually written into the female. They're never level headed or any kind of mature--they tend to be more toward moody or ultra shy.

While you end up with male characters who are smart, capable and slightly flawed, manga, especially shonen manga is almost devoid of females of the same caliber.

[adee]

Whatever floats their boat.
I can certainly associate with some of them...when someone isn't good enough to get emotional attachments IRL, there's gotta be some other place they look to to get that. Day-dreams are an easy source and when visual stimulus with a predefined character is supplied, it makes it all easier. I never developed any affection or craze for any anime females, but I damn well am able to imagine them as being very very real.

I really haven't been able to seriously stay in virtual reality and believe it as real though. Real life is so much more interesting because everything is out of our control.

[Narcissus]

What I find odd, CTK, is that you do not have this problem in regards to Twilight. You were ready to fight a long and hard battle to defend that of all things, despite that fact that fans of the series are just like the anime fans you are describing here.

[Bassoonist]

I do find it rather odd when people do find anime characters as "hot".

I would never see an anime character that way, to be honest the way I like anime characters is in a completely fantasy way.

I rarely even like characters in anime of the sex I'm actually attracted to. So yeah, there is no attraction in... um... that way at all. :sweatdrop

There are people in real life that I love!

[adee]

I do find it rather odd when people do find anime characters as "hot".


man, Tifa from final fantasy wallpapers looks no less real than many of the pornstars that people fap to (Sometimes I'd say she actually isn't any less real if you know what I mean). Then why can you find that hot and not such anime picture perfects?

[SPN]

We should make a serious discussion about thread bumping :pek

I'll never get how people can become so infatuated with animated characters, it's like falling in love with a chair... the only difference being you can actually touch the chair.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

What I find odd, CTK, is that you do not have this problem in regards to Twilight. You were ready to fight a long and hard battle to defend that of all things, despite that fact that fans of the series are just like the anime fans you are describing here.

Looks like you missed the point. The actors in Twilight are real people. They're not animated...

[Megatonton]

Oh god, I'm in love with a fictional sitcom character. :argh

Anyways, what I seem to understand about animation infatuation is that, simply, the creators intended them to be. To be frank, I see about the last decade of Japanese animation, apart from some memorable ones, were about schoolgirls. Lots of them. Because these things are classic fetishes, the authors decided they'd be the perfect marketing ideas to make money from.

To add to the topic, what makes the hikikomoris and those people who do have 'real' relationships the same is that the only thing they are taking out of this is sex. Treating their partners as nothing more than sex objects. To me, if there is no reciprocation beyond the physical, I don't consider it a worthwhile relationship.

[SilverCross]

What about the members of the Marry an Anime Guy/Girl FC?

from a long time member of that FC, its all in fun. nothing that serious, at least as far as I've ever noticed, that place is more focused on RPing than anything else.

[Snickers]

I have to admit, I am a little bit creeped out when I see people posting in threads about how their in love with anime or game characters and not meaning it as a joke. Now I've heard the stupid explanation about things being representations of humans and how the characters are directly linked to what our brain recognize as people...


I agree

Now I understand the notion that people get when they say, "Wow she'd be pretty as a real girl," or "This guy would be so handsome if he were real?" but the magnitude of some of these comments is borderline psychotic almost.

The idea that no real person is right for you and that you have to have a cartoon character should say something about you as a person. I mean there are people all over the place and all of them different. Chances are if you can't at least mesh with one of them on some kind of level then something might be wrong with you or more likely than even that, you're not trying.

Confidence isn't the most important thing. But I've got the nerve to get in someone's face if I have to. I've got enough nerve to tell someone "hey you're doing it wrong." Everyone needs to have the social skills to go out into public and meet people, talk to them, and the like.


Pretty obvious, seeing that most of NF crowd are losers, I.E. the social/physical unfortunate


I might not be the friendliest person, but I can talk to people. I can actually talk to the fairer sex better than I can other men, I just feel more comfortable around them. But that's besides the point, I am starting to think that this infatuation (because that's all it is) with cartoons is partly because a lot of people don't know how to deal with other men or women, even on a level of friendship.
You are most likely a homosexual , a tranvestite or just a women.


People don't know how to deal with the women and men in different settings that they might be in. We kind of have to have that built in litmus test to tell us what action is right, what tone to take, whether to be formal or informal.

Now this is different than just simply watching Hentai, this is actually thinking that you would want these characters in a relationship. And more often than not the things I hear are about the characters body...the personality and temperament of the character are almost never taken into account. Even though more often than not the characters temperament is unrealistic because most characters belong in an archetype, especially in anime.

It's funny how you condemn infatuation with cartoon characters, yet do not condemn lust for cartoon characters. Whereas both is almost equally disgusting. They both include a longing of something which is not human. Both are almost equally pathetic. However it may be true that being able to have feelings for cartoons is directly related to socal issues and lust for cartoons isn't. Nevertheless I dare not deny that both of these issues are signs of the socially disturbed. I have seen hentai, and did not get turned on , especially not since most of the material seems to have a preferall for bestiality.


So what I am asking is what's the meaning behind this? Is this a new phenomenon? Are these things more common than we think? I can remember having a crush on characters as a child, but a crush meant much less back then than wanting to be near something and feeling weird and nervous. I wonder if in a way this is related to that? Or if any of you find it strange who do possess this quality.

Some people are just losers irl and therefore resort to acts such as these. I don't see how this amazes or concerns you though. With the subcultures of today's world, it is only natural for individuals to feel their ''hole'' with different things.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

It's funny how you condemn infatuation with cartoon characters, yet do not condemn lust for cartoon characters. Whereas both is almost equally disgusting. They both include a longing of something which is not human. Both are almost equally pathetic. However it may be true that being able to have feelings for cartoons is directly related to socal issues and lust for cartoons isn't. Nevertheless I dare not deny that both of these issues are signs of the socially disturbed. I have seen hentai, and did not get turned on , especially not since most of the material seems to have a preferall for bestiality.

Well the thing is that I'm not saying that hentai is good or healthy, but at the same time I think that people generally might lust after things that are not good for them. Falling in love with those things actually disturbs me more than just someone having a weakness for them. Don't get me wrong, I don't understand hentai either, I've never seen one besides pages here and there in the BH, but they're never arousing or even interesting. They just seem like ridiculous smut.

[Narcissus]

Looks like you missed the point. The actors in Twilight are real people. They're not animated...

Except the fans of Twilight obssessed over the characters of the books well before the movies were released.

So you're wrong.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Except the fans of Twilight obssessed over the characters of the books well before the movies were released.

So you're wrong.

No I'm not, because the people in the books were based on realistic looking people and realistic ideas (some of the time). They weren't cartoons.

Read the title, it says Animation. This thread is older than your membership...back when I wrote this I doubt I even knew what Twilight was.

[Narcissus]

No I'm not, because the people in the books were based on realistic looking people and realistic ideas (some of the time). They weren't cartoons.

Read the title, it says Animation. This thread is older than your membership...back when I wrote this I doubt I even knew what Twilight was.

And? The only real difference is the medium being used. Twilight is not realistic at all and the characters are fictional, yet you still have girls moaning about how hot Edward is and how much they wish he was real so that he could bite them.

The obsession these fangirls have is far more disturbing than what you're describing here, yet you're making the excuse "IT'S NOT ANIMATION!"

[Y]

Looks like you missed the point. The actors in Twilight are real people. They're not animated...

No I'm not, because the people in the books were based on realistic looking people and realistic ideas (some of the time). They weren't cartoons.

Read the title, it says Animation. This thread is older than your membership...back when I wrote this I doubt I even knew what Twilight was.

A spade is a spade is a spade.

Fangirls/boys fall in love with characters, not with the voiceactors/actorsmost of the time. And Edward and Bella are just as fictional as, say, Naruto and Sakura or what have you. Same idea.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

A spade is a spade is a spade.

Fangirls/boys fall in love with characters, not with the voiceactors/actorsmost of the time. And Edward and Bella are just as fictional as, say, Naruto and Sakura or what have you. Same idea.

And a bullshit argument is a bullshit argument. Benji is a fictional character, but you wouldn't group someone who wanted to fuck him in the same group as someone who wanted to sleep with Edward or Bella.

This is an attempt to cast the light off people who are obsessed with cartoons in an unhealthy way and it's not working. Characters in books described as fully human aren't animated like cartoons and that's what this thread is about. Not about being in love with fictional characters. You want to complain about Twilight, do it in another thread. There's enough of them already.

[Narcissus]

And a bullshit argument is a bullshit argument. Benji is a fictional character, but you wouldn't group someone who wanted to fuck him in the same group as someone who wanted to sleep with Edward or Bella.

This is an attempt to cast the light off people who are obsessed with cartoons in an unhealthy way and it's not working. Characters in books described as fully human aren't animated like cartoons and that's what this thread is about. Not about being in love with fictional characters. You want to complain about Twilight, do it in another thread. There's enough of them already.

No, it's an endeavor to call you out on your double standards. You're saying that a person's obsession with an animated character is unhealthy, but you refuse to admit the same in another case by using a rather pitiful excuse.

Trust me, no one needs to "complain" about Twilight any more because the majority already hates it, and there will be plentiful more once the next movies is released. This is just showing how you're being a bit hypocritical here.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

No, it's an endeavor to call you out on your double standards. You're saying that a person's obsession with an animated character is unhealthy, but you refuse to admit the same in another case by using a rather pitiful excuse.

Trust me, no one needs to "complain" about Twilight any more because the majority already hates it, and there will be plentiful more once the next movies is released. This is just showing how you're being a bit hypocritical here.
You're not reading what the fuck I am saying, when I wrote this fucking thread I didn't even know about Twilight, so how could have been hypocritical about what I didn't know. And yes, I think fiction has has levels. Liking real people from something is different than liking cartoons. You can sprout that crap all you like, but that's my opinion and I don't give a fuck what you think about it.

Don't expect a response to your next post because you're just dragging my thread off topic and you're not discussing the point you're just trying to make and ad hominen attack on me.

Congrats, you proved I couldn't see the fucking future, have a cookie.

[Y]

And a bullshit argument is a bullshit argument. Benji is a fictional character, but you wouldn't group someone who wanted to fuck him in the same group as someone who wanted to sleep with Edward or Bella.

This is an attempt to cast the light off people who are obsessed with cartoons in an unhealthy way and it's not working. Characters in books described as fully human aren't animated like cartoons and that's what this thread is about. Not about being in love with fictional characters. You want to complain about Twilight, do it in another thread. There's enough of them already.

Firstly, when did you think I was ragging on Twilight in my first post?

Second, yes I would lump those people together. It would be unnecessarily splitting hairs if I didn't, IMO

Third, what I am saying is is that general infatuation over any fictional character is the same for the most part(except physical appearances). It's just as unhealthy. It's still never going to be fulfilled. It still distorts the vision of how real people are to those who have that have that infatuation, especially in romance novels. Etc. Etc. Etc.. Just putting my two cents in.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Firstly, when did you think I was ragging on Twilight in my first post?

Second, yes I would lump those people together. It would be unnecessarily splitting hairs if I didn't, IMO

Third, what I am saying is is that general infatuation over any fictional character is the same for the most part(except physical appearances). It's just as unhealthy. It's still never going to be fulfilled. It still distorts the vision of how real people are to those who have that have that infatuation, especially in romance novels. Etc. Etc. Etc.. Just putting my two cents in.
But you fail to realize that you can find qualities in a real person. I could meet a girl who looks like whoever from some book or movie or whatever else. I can't meet a girl who looks like an anime character. I can't really meet too many who act like them because they tend to be less realistically human.

Part of the argument I always hear is that its a representation of a human being, but the thing is that so many people will claim to be able to ONLY watch hentai or are only attracted to cartoons.

That's really messed up.

[SPN]

Guy, guys, the answer is simple. All Twilight fans are retards, their lack of reality is usually due to one too many X chromosones.

Going into HoU is like an insane asylum, makes we worry about people.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Guy, guys, the answer is simple. All Twilight fans are retards, their lack of reality is usually due to one too many X chromosones.

Going into HoU is like an insane asylum, makes we worry about people.

Well I have yet to hear a Twilight fan claim they were going to meet Edward in heaven.

(really heard this said about a Naruto character)

[Mαri]

Guy, guys, the answer is simple. All Twilight fans are retards, their lack of reality is usually due to one too many X chromosones.

Going into HoU is like an insane asylum, makes we worry about people.

Srsly. Whenever someone says something they don't like they take it hard and personally. And they flame you back.Srs bsns

I'll never get how people can become so infatuated with animated characters, it's like falling in love with a chair... the only difference being you can actually touch the chair.

People who fall in love with anime characters actually lose hope in reality of finding a real mate. It can be said for most guys or girls who have very low self confidence.

Well I have yet to hear a Twilight fan claim they were going to meet Edward in heaven.

(really heard this said about a Naruto character)

I wouldn't be surprised if one of them did. They take it about as serious as the HoU. They actually believe that they love the characters. It's pretty sad to watch.

But you never hear them talking about them liking Edward/Jacob/etc's personality. Just that 'HE'S LYK SUU HAWT <3'. One reason being is that Stephanie Meyer never develops an actual personality for either characters. Another is because they only like the characters in the books for their 'description/looks'.

[Narcissus]

You're not reading what the fuck I am saying, when I wrote this fucking thread I didn't even know about Twilight, so how could have been hypocritical about what I didn't know. And yes, I think fiction has has levels. Liking real people from something is different than liking cartoons. You can sprout that crap all you like, but that's my opinion and I don't give a fuck what you think about it.

Nor do I really care what you think.

But it's the fact that you have this notion at all, but you'll make excuses for Twilight. It doesn't matter when you learned about it's existence, it's the fact that it did not follow your line of reasoning in this thread when you did learn of it.

So yes, you're being a hypocrite.

Don't expect a response to your next post because you're just dragging my thread off topic and you're not discussing the point you're just trying to make and ad hominen attack on me.

I accept your concession.

http://i43.tinypic.com/316sv46.jpg

That's nice dear. :hurr

[Sephiroth]

I still hate that they gave Magneton a evolution, Magnezone is a lame form to one of my favorite Pokemon. :pek

[Y]

Magmar shouldn't have had an evolution either:pek

Don't even get me started about Rhydon motherfuckers:sun

[Megatonton]

At least Rhyperior isn't afraid to get wet anymore.

Wait, what? :wha

[Narcissus]

Anyway, as it is, an obsession with anything is unhealthy. Trying to single out animated characters in particular as if they are especially bad is rather stupid.

There is nothing wrong with finding attraction to animated characters or any fictional character, so long as a person does not go overboard with it, as many have done, both with anime and other mediums (such as Twilight).

CTK thinks I was directly attacking him, when in reality I was merely trying to point this out.

[Megatonton]

Hmm, as I see it, IRL stalkers and these hikikomoris are pretty much on the same boat. To be honest, I don't see why it is right for anyone to find human relationships in anything virtual, be it animated or not.

Maybe the better question for this is; what does one consider 'going overboard'? (Mine begins with a collection of paraphernalia of a single character and what he does to it. To be honest, fapping to it.)

[Narcissus]

Okay: Saying a fictional character looks attractive.

Overboard: Saying you wish a fictional character was real because he/she is so hot while masturbating to the thought/image of said fictional character.

[Jυstin]

Magmar shouldn't have had an evolution either:pek

Don't even get me started about Rhydon motherfuckers:sun

At least Rhyperior isn't afraid to get wet anymore.

Wait, what? :wha

They both fear this team :LOS

Alakazam
@ Choice Scarf
~Calm Mind
~Shadow Ball
~Psychic
~Trick

Wobbuffet
@ Leftovers
~Mirror Coat
~Safeguard
~Encore
~Counter

Lucario
@ Lax Incense
~Swords Dance
~Dark Pulse
~Close Combat
~ExtremeSpeed

Tower Tycoon lost to this team before even getting to my Lucario :awesome

No I'm not, because the people in the books were based on realistic looking people and realistic ideas (some of the time). They weren't cartoons.

Read the title, it says Animation. This thread is older than your membership...back when I wrote this I doubt I even knew what Twilight was.

Ah, as much as I'd like to agree with this reasoning here, I can't.

Whether Twilight is cartoon or not is moot. It's still animated in a fictional sense. Obsessing over it is just as bad, since at the end of the day, none of it is even remotely real.

[MaskedMenace]

I never met a person who was that into anime nor do I have a infatuation with anime. Granted it is one of my favorite hobbies but I do not obsess over individual characters or think they are real.

However people who are infatuated with anime characters are on the same level as stalkers, rapist or pedo. They have mental issues and need help.


Regarding Twilight, IMO obsessive thinking about any fictional character regardless of what medium is equally unhealthy. Being infatuated with novel characters isn't much better then anime characters.

[(´・ω・)]

Some people actually fap to such things, but...lol. I just don't get it. I really don't.
I never take it seriously.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

I never met a person who was that into anime nor do I have a infatuation with anime. Granted it is one of my favorite hobbies but I do not obsess over individual characters or think they are real.

You need to look around the forums some, there are people right here.

However people who are infatuated with anime characters are on the same level as stalkers, rapist or pedo. They have mental issues and need help.

Whoa? What? How does someone who likes an anime character suddenly get on the level of being a criminal. People obsessed with anime and the like are at best hurting themselves more than anyone else. A stalker and a rapist are dangerous criminals. Pedophiles are really disgustingly sick too...

Regarding Twilight, IMO obsessive thinking about any fictional character regardless of what medium is equally unhealthy. Being infatuated with novel characters isn't much better then anime characters.

Infatuation by definition isn't healthy, this thread is about being infatuated with anime characters. The fact of the matter still stands that you could find someone from a novel or some shows that is really like that person. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who looked like or acted like an anime character.

Some people actually fap to such things, but...lol. I just don't get it. I really don't.
I never take it seriously.

Some people fap to commercials without living organisms in them...

[A Tout le Monde]

Perhaps we fap to anime characters because they're not real? Because they have appearances that no human being could achieve?
That's why it's called a fantasy. There is nothing wrong with popping one off while thinking of a hentai chick. Indulging your imagination shouldn't be considered a bad thing as long as you know what is real and what's not. For instance, I like anime porn but I only love a very real girl.

It's only when you start to blur the lines of what's real and what's not that things become twisted IMO.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Perhaps we fap to anime characters because they're not real? Because they have appearances that no human being could achieve?

Okay, stay with me while I explain just how little sense that makes.

You're telling me that if I thought chairs were just awesome and thought they were so awesome that there were some chairs. Not all of them, because everyone has preferences. But some of the chairs just really did it for me...

...you know because they're not really people and they have a look no human being could achieve.

You are then telling me that it is okay to beat off to these chairs on these grounds and no one should worry about your mental health...

That's why it's called a fantasy. There is nothing wrong with popping one off while thinking of a hentai chick. Indulging your imagination shouldn't be considered a bad thing as long as you know what is real and what's not. For instance, I like anime porn but I only love a very real girl.

It's only when you start to blur the lines of what's real and what's not that things become twisted IMO.

Listen to what you just said. I don't think you realized it but the second I read it, I picked it up. It's okay to like anime porn but I only love a very real girl.

Infatuation is obsessive love, so fi you're not the kind of person who acts like real women take a back seat to those in animes, you're not who I am talking about.

[Casyle]

Mmm, in my opinion... my worthless, malodorous opinion...

I see no problem in finding anime/cartoon/video game characters attractive, or/and getting some degree of emotional investment in 'em as you read/play along. I admit, I cried a bit when Aeris died and I've found many video game characters attractive. However, it stops there, I've never fantasized about having sex w/ 'em, or anything like that.

However, I do think it's creepy as hell when you start fugging pillows w/ your favorite anime/cartoon/video game character on 'em. Or seriously calling them your soul-mate.

[Ema Skye]

I admit I like some animated characters (Joshua :ho) but not to the point of being infatuated with them at least not like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsikPswAYUM

[Miyuki]

You really can't compare the love for video game characters to animals. People might feel the same for a virtual thing than a real living thing but personally I still think it just won't be the same. I for instance, love my cats so damn much. I have 3 cats and yet I'm probably one of the most social active users here with tons of RL friends. So your 'statistics' are completely wrong because I know there are others here like me. As for video game characters, I've never been 'obsessed'. Ok I like. I'm so fucking obsessed with Bayonetta and Kratos but it's not like I think they're "my life" like a lot other people do. I have a social life as well as an e-life so I like to pretend I'm different.

.. ;_;

[The World]

You really can't compare the love for video game characters to animals. People might feel the same for a virtual thing than a real living thing but personally I still think it just won't be the same. I for instance, love my cats so damn much. I have 3 cats and yet I'm probably one of the most social active users here with tons of RL friends. So your 'statistics' are completely wrong because I know there are others here like me. As for video game characters, I've never been 'obsessed'. Ok I like. I'm so fucking obsessed with Bayonetta and Kratos but it's not like I think they're "my life" like a lot other people do. I have a social life as well as an e-life so I like to pretend I'm different.

.. ;_;

So you have lesbianic thoughts of sexing Bayonetta? Me too! :hurr

[natwel]

You can never understand unless you have a crush on an anime character yourself.
and if you do understand it's hard to explain it.

[AlexaStar]

Have I ever been attracted to a fictional character? Yes, many through the years, with my first being Vegeta. I was in second grade, I think, at the time. Am I in love with fictional characters? Well, unless love means being interested in someone for a set amount of time before eventually moving onto someone else, then no. I have never been in love with anyone or anything. If my characters were real, then sure I'd go out with them if given the chance.

It's not that I have trouble with the opposite sex; it's just that (for now at least) I want nothing to do with real boys. Dating right now would only distract me from my schoolwork, plus I'm not attracted to anyone real. In the past five years, I have had two different boys crushing on me. Thing was, I didn't return either of their feelings at all.

I don't know, maybe I'm just not meant for love at this point in my life.

[Chiyo]

I love Kaidan Alenko from Mass Effect (I smile when I think of him, and I cried when things didn't work out the way I had planned with him), but I don't think that means anything other than that Bioware are excellent at crafting wonderful characters. I'm also just a little bit in love with two of the male and one of the female main characters in my first novel. And the main protagonist of my second one.

I'm married with kids and have no problem talking to people.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Well the thing is, I can see saying the character has some attractive qualities and you want to find them in someone else in real life.

[BAD BD]

Sasuke-kun is soooo kawaii!!! ^__^

I luV HiM <3<3<3<3

[Takatsuki Alicia]

People who are obsessed with an anime character to a disturbing extent (forgetting its not real)...well...I blame the parents for not teaching them :zaru

[Chee]

People need to start obsessing over the finer things. Like Sharlto Copley. :quite

[PikaCheeka]

I have no interest in relations IRL.

My liking an anime guy does not affect that whatsoever.

It's not as if I'm shy/bad at relationships or I can't find mr.right and make friends IRL (I have some friends, and a lot of stalkers obsessed with me). I just don't care to get involved with anyone.

I read yaoi. I can't watch it because of those sound effects. I've never wanted a sexual relationship with a character. I can like them/think they're hot without having sexual fantasies about sleeping with them (which always confused me...do you see yourself as an anime character, or do you see them as real people?).

I guess you're not really talking about people like me because I don't want to go make wild love to Sasuke, but that's just my thought on it.

[Sen]

I don't think there is anything that wrong as long as you don't let it consume your life. After all, we all have our hobbies and seriously liking some anime guy is just as bad to me as wasting 15 hours a day on a video game. In the end, you still let too much of your time be spend on something that takes away your time without giving you much back. I suppose that could be said about spending too much time on here too :awesome

Anyway, I like yaoi and I think that they are attractive on some level. Don't imagine myself with them, but more them with each other, like when I read novels and such too. I don't think it's too bad.

There maybe are people that take these things too far, but then again it's their life in the end. As long as it's not really hurting other people, then I guess it's best to just let them do what they'd like.

[Juice]

Thats just gross... :( :LOS

[Cuedat]

As with anything, if it starts interfering with your daily life and health and your relationships with friends, family and new people, then it's a problem. Like if you're out with your friends or on a date, but all you can think about is rewinding that character over and over. Or just refusing to go out at all. "What do they have to offer me?! Okarimakuri-kun has everything I need, desu!!!". If you genuinely love an anime character or any virtual piece of pixely meat somethings wrong. Don't even get me started on that guy who married the video game, lol. That was just insane. I can imagine a little gameboy propped up on the dinner table with tiny silverware and everything.

But I dont think these people should be alienated just because they like something like that. In fact, I think they need extra love and attention when their problem comes into retrospect. I dont think genuine cases like this are that common though, hurr.

[colours]

i think it's creepy when they talk about fantasy sexual daydreams

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

i like to fap to hentai but i would never go as far as claim an anime/manga character as my main squeeze and have a desktop, folder or posts dedicated to her. Why limit yourself to one character? :zaru