GIMP shop: free, with photoshop interface

[StoneWalker]

OMG!! 0__0 *faint*

and its about time too: a new GIMP is out: GIMP Shop, and it has a similar interface to photoshop for easier management. And its free, works on Linux, mac, and windows, what more could you ask for?

I'm gonna DL it on my Linux comp! .n______n. *has a heart-attack* XD

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Here's where I found out about it: CLICK (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=228851)
(check out the thread, some other people might know more info than what's on the site)

Here's the site: CLICK (http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241)
(if you scroll down, they make some photoshop/gimp comparisons and stuff)
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.GIMPShop for WINDOWS XP: CLICK (http://blog.yumdap.net/archives/20-GIMPshop-for-Windows.html)
.GIMPShop for Mac OSX: CLICK (http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/GIMPshop-OSX-version2b.dmg.tbz) must DL Apple's x11 to use (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/download/)
.GIMPShop for LINUX: damn, can't find the link. anyone have it?

Also has Photoshp shortcuts.
For Linux-users, get the shortcuts here (http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php).



[EDIT]
and some comparison

LEFT: Adobe
Right: Gimp

Transform (A) (http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/1edit.gif) Transform (G) (http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/2edit.gif)

Adjustments (A) (http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/1image.gif) Adjustments (G) (http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/2image.gif)


My GIMPShop Interface

Before;
http://img141.echo.cx/img141/4006/gimpinterface1ot.jpg

After:
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/3357/gimpshoplayoutsmall1la.jpg


Check out the site for more comparisons and info about it.

and, its FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE XD



I think this is great for people who can't afford Photoshop (or don't want to get it from a "friend"). Just thought some might wanna check it out .n___n.

[Rio]

Hey, it's nice to see something legal :D
I'll give it a try, thx! :thumbs
*rep*

[EndlessRain]

omfg Gimp changed!!!1!1
wow i have to dl it again =O
thx for the info!

[Shunsui]

I have the gimp installed, I'd use it for everything if it didn't die fairly regularly. It is a windows port so it's bound to not work so well on windows =\

[Mizura]

What the... when did they add a new interface? I don't remember reading anything about this in the Gimp mailing list either... (then again I haven't been paying too much attention to it...)

Personally I like the 2.2 interface quite fine, especially after configuring it a bit, though I can understand why people would want a more familiar photoshop-like interface. Ah well. Say, Stonewalker, does this mean that you use Gimp as well? And you use Linux?

[¤Naruto-Kun¤]

OMFG, whats really wierd is that i was just having a problem with my photoshop..and i was lookin for some alternative program to use...THANK GOD FOR NF! lol

[StoneWalker]

I have the gimp installed, I'd use it for everything if it didn't die fairly regularly. It is a windows port so it's bound to not work so well on windows =\

its a great software, but I've heard that it seriously sucks on windows >__<;; never tried to config it for a windows comp before, but I think the guys that did GIMPshop are going to fix that prob



What the... when did they add a new interface? I don't remember reading anything about this in the Gimp mailing list either... (then again I haven't been paying too much attention to it...)

Personally I like the 2.2 interface quite fine, especially after configuring it a bit, though I can understand why people would want a more familiar photoshop-like interface. Ah well. Say, Stonewalker, does this mean that you use Gimp as well? And you use Linux?

I usually use Linux for everything, except for playing certain games and using Photoshop ( because they don't have a stupid linux version T____T)

Linux is alot more stable, and I needed it to run a rendering system for work (windows would crash under the pressure :D )

I tried out GIMP a really long time ago when I first grabbed onto RedHat 7.

I'm thinking of slowly switching to GIMP now that it has an interface I'm familiar with XD

[Shunsui]

Gimp is awesome, though I like PS better on windows.... I was almost done with something fairly cool when pop, it died. Back to photoshop with me.

[StoneWalker]

omg ;__; that is so angst. I'll know to keep that away from windows now T______T

[Shunsui]

It likes to open the CLI for some reason too, mostly to tell you that the fonts are fucked up. Keep your GIMP on linux kids :p

[M2]IceMan]

It looks good but I will stick to photoshop assuming its abilities

[Rio]

Hrm, does it mess up anything outside it's own directory? I'm not that much into ruining windows but won't care if the prog itself crashes from time to time. Recently my PSP is closing without any reason from time to time, too. -.-

[[I am teh Haruka]]

I installed GIMP for windows, but it just always freezes when it's loading the fonts. Is there a problem with this? Or should I download the linux one or something?

EDIT: Okay, it's working now. I just had to wait like... three minutes for it to load.

=_=;; Well, I don't have photoshop so this'll be great! I don't really care if it shuts down time to time cause I got a free program now. <3 Thanks for this post.

[StoneWalker]

woah, it really does work on windows??? o.0;;;;

I just DLed it on my linux comp and it works so perfectly. a dream come true T_____T



Hrm, does it mess up anything outside it's own directory? I'm not that much into ruining windows but won't care if the prog itself crashes from time to time. Recently my PSP is closing without any reason from time to time, too. -.-

I'll try it out on windows and see how screwy it is XD and maybe see if someone's did some tweeking so it works on windows better (I could have sworn there was a windows one, oh well) *runs off*

[Rio]

I've installed it and gimp works fine but gimpshop closes at the beginning. :notrust
Any tips? (I'm using win98SE)

[StoneWalker]

hmmm, don't know. It's not made for windows yet so you'd expect something screwy to happen XD

try re-downloading it

[Rio]

Nope, there is a Windows-version in the News/Update section. (The other one couldn't be opened at all but this one I could install without probs until I try to open it.)

[StoneWalker]

woah, there really is one o.0;; I'm gonna try it out right now, hold on..







[EDIT]

I just DLed it on Windows and it works fine.

But I only saw a version for WinXP only, maybe that's why T____T



just doodled something up quick;

http://img141.echo.cx/img141/8881/gimpshopface6nl.jpg



and the interface;

http://img141.echo.cx/img141/4006/gimpinterface1ot.jpg

[Nick]

Stone, you use tablet right? gimp uses natural brushes (ala painter) or just normal brushes like photoshop.?

[Asmodeus]

Yeah, painter has a whole crapload of natural burshes...of course, if it could do both...wow, lol.

[StoneWalker]

Photoshop has natural brushes too XP

GIMPShop has both natural media brushes and normal hard brushes. You can make custom brushes too, if you want things more painterly, more dry media-type brush style, etc

[[I am teh Haruka]]

Are there any GIMP brushes that I could download? Cause I really don't wanna make my own right now. =_= And how about some GIMP tutorials? Cause I only know the official site has some.

Can we use photoshop tutorials for GIMP? Some stuff that is in photoshop isn't in GIMP... so that's the only problem. =_=;;

[Rio]

I'll rep the one who solves my win98 vs. Gimpshop prob.

[StoneWalker]

sorry, man. couldn't do it T____T

[rokkudaime]

So what is better, PS or GIMP shop? coz i use Gimp.

[StoneWalker]

depends what you mean by 'better.' They both work the same.

But if you want to go with what the majority, get Photoshop
If you don't want to buy/pirate a copy, then get GIMPShop

[rokkudaime]

Paint pixel uses photoshop and her pieces have smooth outlines. i tried that in gimp but it doesnt seem to work as well. maybe beacause its my first and i dont have wacom tablet. ill show what i colored when im finished.

[StoneWalker]

?? Its harder to get smooth outlines in Photoshop than it is with GIMP o.0;; XDDD
For me, its harder. I think its because GIMP's brushes are naturally softer and blend well if you have good pressure sensitivity on your tablet pen, or even a good optical mouse

Photoshop brushes stink unless you make good custom-made ones :D bwahahahar


PaintPixel is teh master, I don't think one can achieve that level of work without time and practice XD


People always ask what programs are better to use, and there's always the same 2 answers:
1.) it doesn't matter, just whatever turns you on
2.) Use teh -insert App here- because it roxxorz and everyone uses it!!1!1!!!


I've just started to use GIMP, but I think its a worthy subsitute for Photoshop. The interface is slightly different, but not by much, and it takes a while to get use to it
You can use the same Photoshopo keyboard shortcuts in GIMPShop too


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Can we use photoshop tutorials for GIMP? Some stuff that is in photoshop isn't in GIMP... so that's the only problem. =_=;;

depends what you're trying to do. with any software its best to get ergonomic with the tools and setup before jumping into tutorials

[rokkudaime]

thanks for the advice.

[StoneWalker]

no problem n___n how's GIMP working out?

I'm trying to find a way to change the brush sizes so they can be changed to infinite sizes instead of the standard ones they give you (those brush sizes are a pain in the arse)

[rokkudaime]

Im just a noob at gimp as you saw on my pic. idont have gimp shop. i have gimp 2.2.6 on windows and it rocks. I dont even know how to make my own brushes. i use what they have at the moment.

[Steve L.]

Gimp Shop is awsome, I love it. ::cries::

[StoneWalker]

GIMPShop shall deliver us! (to the promised land) :leepose

lmao XD

[supanatrial]

the gimp is good and linux is good as well. it took me a while to get the pressure sensitivity working but now i am happy and can draw again. I have been using gimp on windows for a while but it always messed up, no errors yet on linux.

[Hayabusa]

Hmm, im gunna have to get this. Thanks StoneWalker.

[Yak]

Uhm, I have both The Gimp 2 and Gimp Shop for Windows XP and no problems so far. My only problem is that I can`t use it properly. Gotta find some tutorials about the whole layer stuff used for colouring. I still suck at colouring. Graarrr.

[rokkudaime]

I have gimp 2.2.6. i colored a page in the art gallery. maybe i can help you( im also a noob at coloring) find the thread at the second page of the artist gallery.

[Mizura]

Oh! Oh! I can tell you how to change brush sizes!

You'll have to define the shortcuts though. Go to the preferences area, and choose "interface". Choose "configure keyboard shortcuts". Now just choose "context" and assign any shortcuts you want, like '[' and ']' to brush size increase and decrease and the likes. I also assigned something to increase and decrease opacity by 10% (no need for 1% imo).

Now you have to make a custom brush. Because the default brushes cannot be modified. Another thing is... well I haven't found out how to change your default brush yet... but it's not like I think it matters. What I did is find the brush folder containing all the round brushes, and deleted them all! If you can change the brush size and everything yourself, why bother with them? So from there, you can have a modifiable brush as default. Hope this helped!

[StoneWalker]

omg. thank you so very frikkin much. IT WORKED IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!

Mizura, why are you always so helpful? T______T


bwahahahar, GIMP shall dominate the world with its free-app fury and open-sourceness! XD

[[I am teh Haruka]]

StoneWalker... you are so cool! ^_________^

[StoneWalker]

Yes, I am XDDDDD .n_____n.

MIZURA!! I can't try this out because I'm not at my own comp for this week, but;

is there a way to import photoshop brushes into GIMPShop, or do I have to make my custom-made ones again?

And can GIMPShop handle .PSD files so you can switch from working in PS to working in GIMP?

[Mizura]

Hmm, Gimp(shop) can't handle Photoshop brushes yet to my knowledge. So I recommend that you open Photoshop, select the brushes you want, just use them once on a layer, save as png, import into Gimp and save the result as a brush. Should work! You could just do that with all the brushes you have on one png file. Then once in Gimp, just crop, save as, undo and repeat. ^_^

As for handling photoshop files, yes, Gimp can open Photoshop files, I think you'll have to install some other program first though. I forgot what.

Edit: Gimp brushes are in .bgr format. To find the brush folder, find the Gimp folder, then share -> gimp -> 2.0 -> brushes.

To open PS and EPS files (whatever), you have to install Ghostscript, says here: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/faq.html .

You might also want to modify your interface a bit... now that your default brush is a handy dandy modifiable one, you don't need that many things open at once. I recommend that you completely close down the right bar. Also, hide all your tools, I suggest learning the shortcuts instead. I've also gone into "preferences to hide the background/foreground colors, gradient and present pattern, which I find redundant. It all leaves me with more place for other stuff. Here's what I'm left with: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/vvankerck/gimp.jpg

It's considerably less clutter. You just have to learn the shortcuts. ^_^
- paintbrush: P
- ink tool: K
- pencil tool: N
- eraser: shift + E
- default colors (to change to B&W): D
- switch fg and bg colors: X
- color picker: O
- color picker while using the paintbrush: hold down ctrl, it converts the paintbrush temporarily to a color picker
- move up and down layers: page up, page down

etc.

[omnislasher_VII]

Pretty cool, but I'll always love my Photoshop.

*glomps computer*

[StoneWalker]

Free open-source > $600 software


which I'm 99.9% sure you didn't buy .n___n. but that's ok

[Mizura]

By the way, Stonewalker, did all those tips I gave you work or not?

[StoneWalker]

oops, forgot to say: YES THEY DID!! thanks! the shortcuts take a while to get use to T___T

my GIMPShop looks pimpin now XD

[Mizura]

They do take a while to get used to, but it's very worth it to unclutter the screen. ^__^ Screenshot?

[rokkudaime]

i downloaded gimpshop but it didnt have the photoshop interface you guys were talking about.

[StoneWalker]

no? here's what mine looks like (I dunno what happened to my beautiful BG image T___T)

forgot to post it before XD and yay for tab groups! :leepose

Before;
http://img141.echo.cx/img141/4006/gimpinterface1ot.jpg

After:
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/3357/gimpshoplayoutsmall1la.jpg


This is kinda like a compact convertible or a nice minivan ;p


pretty much put in the same colours as my photoshop (found teh awesome theme somewhere). I think GIMP's interface is cleaner than photoshops too for some reason, easier to manage.


[EDIT] AND I GOT MY WATERCOLOUR BRUSH INTO GIMP!!! I gotta put it back in 'cause I did something stupid and it disappeared, BUT I GOT IT IN!! W00T!

I'm so pro XD

[Mizura]

So you managed to get your Photoshop brushes in there? How did you do it then, care to share? Of course I'm not interested in the least since I don't use Photoshop, but some people reading this thread might be interested. :amuse

Seriously though, learn some of the shortcuts, then close/minimize that tool bar. You can open something more useful in that space, like the Tool options or the color selection tab. ^__^ Did I mention that to go up and down layers, you use "page up" and "page down"? "home" for the top layer, "end" for the bottom layer. Quite handy. Since the name of the layer should appear somewhere, you can just hide the Layers tab and open something else as well.

[Miso]

Thanks StoneWalker!

I've dld the version for Windows...it's ok but there are still some probs..i.e. I can't see any help files as it doesn't install correctly. Even after a reinstall it doesn't work properly.
I think I'll stick to Photoshop till they release a more stable version for Windows XP....

[Ray667]

Whoa, I've been looking for a free one of these for ages. Thanks a lot StoneWalker - I would rep you but I don't think I can atm.

[StoneWalker]

Don't rep me, just gimme a Nice-guy pose XD :leepose


Mizura, I just put the photoshop brushes into GIMP's brush folder (a-la copy+paste), but it only worked for a second before disappearing T___T
I made the same brush again in GIMP anyway, so all is good XD

[[I am teh Haruka]]

Stone, I don't have Photoshop but I do have GIMP, and I want to do this tutorial:
http://www.shadowness.com/image.php?image=images/tutorial/img_296.jpg
But Photoshop is obviously different than GIMP, can you somehow please help me?

[Kool ka lang]

Just got GIMP, and you have to download the help files from their website. It's like www.gimp.org,then you have to go to the gimp for windows page. go to automated installer, and the logo will turn brownish, and in the downloads screen, go to additional packages.

[danbluesoccer]

i have gimpshop and for some reason it wont open my photoshop stuff. yet be4 my old computer crashed i had an earlier gimp version and i was able to load photoshop files fine. help please

[HoukiBoshi]

I just got GIMPshop (i've had gimp for a while) and took it off straight away. I keeps crashing :notrust

I'll stick with normal gimp

[Vicious ♥]

Yes, I am experienceing that too, it keeps crashing:(