View Full Version : I think Simon is Kamina's dad
Paul the SK
10-01-2007, 07:57 PM
I shit you not. As strange as it may sound, I'm serious.
I actualy thought of this quite early on, but old Simon in the final episode solidified it for me. Anyway, I think sometime after peace was restored to the universe, Simon had a child. Mabye the mother was Yoko, mabye she wasn't. anyway, that dosn't matter.
Simon named the child Kamina after his aniki. Some events occur, Simon realizes he has to travel back in time with his son Kamina and leave him in the past so the events leading to the formation of the Gurren-dan can occur.
Birkin
10-01-2007, 08:01 PM
Then how come Kamina's dad was dead?
Paul the SK
10-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Simon didn't really die. He faked his death so Kamina would have a reason to live.
I know theres the skeleton but that can easily be fake.
Birkin
10-01-2007, 08:04 PM
But he could never have predicted that he would find him.
Shiraishi
10-01-2007, 08:05 PM
I posted this elsewhere last night.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10931216&postcount=15
http://i22.tinypic.com/f3xton.jpg
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Gurren%20Lagann/Gurren%20Lagann%20-%2027%20-%20Large%2051.jpg
Wouldn't it make more sense in saying that Simon was flung into a Spiral Dimension and brought back in time with Kamina. He left him in the village and told him that he wanted to go up to space, in order to go back through the dimension rift to get back to his time but failed.
That'll be better to support your theory :apathy
Delta Shell
10-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Yeah, I thought he was Kamina's dad ever since they showed Kamina's dad.
He went through some crazy time travel, and died in the past leaving his grave in the desert and Kamina to wander about and get inspired from him. It also makes the "you died in a place like this father???" scene awesome because really, his dad ended up being one of the greatest dudes ever and Simon sort of began and ended the circle.
Of course it's not really supported by anything I just thought it'd be cool.
Phoenix Wright
10-01-2007, 08:25 PM
Would make a sequel that much more win.
Shiraishi
10-01-2007, 08:33 PM
Would make a sequel that much more win.
Simon could be Captain GARlock, GAR Simon, Simon the Driller, Kamina's Dad, and Simon the Hobo.
HE WOULD BE ULTIMATE.
Shade
10-01-2007, 08:39 PM
Speaking of which, that's exactly what the spin-off is about.
erictheking
10-01-2007, 08:44 PM
This theory is just out there. It's not even reaching at anything, since it's not supported by a shred of evidence. It's "interesting" though.
Barak
10-01-2007, 08:51 PM
i recognize both voices, kamina's dad and hobo simon have different seiyuus
Hobo Simon: the guy who does Zangetsu from Bleach
Kamina's dad: Akisame from Kenichi or Allen from Marchen Awakens Romance.
ryu77
10-01-2007, 09:04 PM
I always thought this theory was stupid but Old Simon looks very similar to Kamina's dad. Some pretty amazing things better happen to make this true.
Cheers!
RacheT
10-01-2007, 09:55 PM
It'd be way freakin' weird to see that happen.
It'd be awesome, but a bit of a mindfuck.
Pandaza
10-01-2007, 10:02 PM
if this theory was true my head would explode, seriously
Phoenix Wright
10-01-2007, 10:03 PM
if this theory was true my head would exploit, seriously
Exploit what? Malnourished children in the deepest reaches of Africa?
Pandaza
10-01-2007, 10:12 PM
i meant explode but yeah...simon being kamina's dad is just kinda awkward
Adachi
10-01-2007, 11:01 PM
This theory is just out there. It's not even reaching at anything, since it's not supported by a shred of evidence. It's "interesting" though.
After watching the entire series, have you still not realized that reason and logic do not exist in TTGL?
All these ideas about Simon being Kamina's dad and possible plot for a sequel etc. etc interest me alot, I would really like this to happen.
Akatsuki99
10-02-2007, 08:35 AM
Pretty out there.....I guess it could be possible
I definently believe in this one.
He's the narrator. If he were Kamina's dad they would have given him the same voice.
G@R-chan
10-02-2007, 05:49 PM
I supported this theory a long time ago, but I'm not so sure right now simply because Simon chose to live single and alone. The last scene shows that Nobody has seen Simon after he left and he was just a "nobody" (as he said) travelling around the world and helping people.
Denizen
10-02-2007, 06:44 PM
nah, I don't think so.
Taleran
10-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Simon = Narrator
and in his own words in the last episode
"Dead people are dead"
Souten Kishun
10-03-2007, 05:38 AM
Ha, well if Simon could be Kamina's dad...then Yoko could be his mom..
and you know what that means...?
:oh
Probably a good thing he didn't come back from that last battle
Anyway... it's not likely that Simon's his dad but it is a very interesting thought. It's potential spin off material I guess. A bit strange though.
Ennoea
10-03-2007, 05:47 AM
If its true then Kamina wanted to have sex with his theorectical mum?
Souten Kishun
10-03-2007, 06:05 AM
If its true then Kamina wanted to have sex with his theorectical mum?
Exactly.
Therefore it must can't be true.
zOMFG, you guys are freaks. :|
Simon is not Kamina's dad. Kamina's dad is an old friend of Genome who piloted the lower part of the Lasengan and then actually got to Teppelin but lost to Genome and then they dumped him out in the desert where Kamina coincidentially finds him.
PradaBrada
10-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Had the same theory, pretty much 100% prooven
NO NO NO .... MY VIRGIN EARS [eyes] .. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Rook
10-04-2007, 12:08 AM
Why can't he be a normal person who was killed by the beastmen; his death was used to justify our love for the heroes and act as motivation for the characters.
Pimp of Pimps
10-04-2007, 12:25 AM
I'm not saying it's true, but as far as I can tell it is possible. This is how I think it would happen assuming it were true:
Perhaps there is a battle going on near Simon. Something happens and he goes through a rip in the time-space continuum. Simon find his way to Jiha village (or perhaps he was already there) to a time before Simon and Kamina were born. He falls in love and has a kid whom he names after the man he admires. He also constantly tells people of the surface. One day he digs a path to the surface, taking Kamina with him. He asks Kamina if he wants to come, Kamina being overcome with fear refuses. His dad says it's okay and to come up here one day. Instead of living on he decides to die, meets a ganmen says "come and get me" smiles and gets stomped on.
Sounds pretty good.
sometimes I think I'm kamina's dad.
Pimp of Pimps
10-04-2007, 12:38 AM
Your mom is Kamina's dad. :LOS
Chunkyhunks
10-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I shit you not. As strange as it may sound, I'm serious.
I actualy thought of this quite early on, but old Simon in the final episode solidified it for me. Anyway, I think sometime after peace was restored to the universe, Simon had a child. Mabye the mother was Yoko, mabye she wasn't. anyway, that dosn't matter.
Simon named the child Kamina after his aniki. Some events occur, Simon realizes he has to travel back in time with his son Kamina and leave him in the past so the events leading to the formation of the Gurren-dan can occur.
I think someone's been reading too much haruhi...
Souten Kishun
10-04-2007, 01:46 AM
I'm not saying it's true, but as far as I can tell it is possible. This is how I think it would happen assuming it were true:
Perhaps there is a battle going on near Simon. Something happens and he goes through a rip in the time-space continuum. Simon find his way to Jiha village (or perhaps he was already there) to a time before Simon and Kamina were born. He falls in love and has a kid whom he names after the man he admires. He also constantly tells people of the surface. One day he digs a path to the surface, taking Kamina with him. He asks Kamina if he wants to come, Kamina being overcome with fear refuses. His dad says it's okay and to come up here one day. Instead of living on he decides to die, meets a ganmen says "come and get me" smiles and gets stomped on.
Wow.
I would support that plot without fail. Not only would it make sense...but it's the most interesting spin-off I've heard to date.
Deviruchi
10-04-2007, 01:53 AM
It may not be true, but it makes sense.
But that would mean Simon would die countless times in the cycle of death and rebirth! :cry
Pimp of Pimps
10-04-2007, 03:31 PM
But that would mean Simon would die countless times in the cycle of death and rebirth! :cry
Lol no it doesn't. He would only die once.
uncanny_sama
10-04-2007, 06:23 PM
I shit you not. As strange as it may sound, I'm serious.
I actualy thought of this quite early on, but old Simon in the final episode solidified it for me. Anyway, I think sometime after peace was restored to the universe, Simon had a child. Mabye the mother was Yoko, mabye she wasn't. anyway, that dosn't matter.
Simon named the child Kamina after his aniki. Some events occur, Simon realizes he has to travel back in time with his son Kamina and leave him in the past so the events leading to the formation of the Gurren-dan can occur.
thus my theory lives on :pek
TurboCod
10-09-2007, 10:20 AM
When I first saw this thread I was a bit dubious. But in a weird way, it does make sense.
They look pretty damn similar and if you notice you never see Kamina's dads eye since its covered by his hair, which at the end of the series, is Simons spiral eye as well. I don't think Simon would actually be his father though, maybe adopted or something. I can't see Simon wanting to have a kid with anyone except Nia.
@lk3mizt
10-10-2007, 09:03 AM
i dont really believe in this one. it just does not feel right ya know..
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