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Vino
10-01-2007, 07:25 PM
I was really dissapointed, its like Shimon let go his destiny. What really pissed me off is that he gave his drill to Gimmy, I mean wtf, this drill represents your soul, so you gave your soul to a little kid? :notrust

I could have been happy if Shimon was going to take it with Yoko, but nope, he had to become a hobo and wander the earth for 20 fucking years, also does he have a green Sharingan in the end? :oh

Overall, very dissapointing ending, it was more tragic that End of Eva :(

Neji
10-01-2007, 07:27 PM
he has one spiral eye for some reason, and yeah I think its stupid that he gave his drill to Gimmy of all people :apathy

@lk3mizt
10-01-2007, 07:29 PM
yeah i was massively disappointed with the ending. I can forgive GAINAX though cuz the anime was just foooooking awesome! :spaz

Deviruchi
10-01-2007, 07:30 PM
I actually liked the ending, except the fact that Simon just ditches everyone else and goes off wandering around.

Birkin
10-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Only thing dissapointing in the series was certain deaths.

Neji
10-01-2007, 07:31 PM
lol I think that the ep 27 fight evens out the ending to still make it one of the best episodes ever :gar

Vino
10-01-2007, 07:32 PM
Only thing dissapointing in the series was certain deaths.

Kaminas death was majorly dissapointing, if he stayed alive till the anti spiral fight, then his sacrafice could have more meaning, dying by a monkey isn't that nice :(

@lk3mizt
10-01-2007, 07:33 PM
lol I think that the ep 27 fight evens out the ending to still make it one of the best episodes ever :gar

agreed. :nod

Neji
10-01-2007, 07:33 PM
Kaminas death was majorly dissapointing, if he stayed alive till the anti spiral fight, then his sacrafice could have more meaning, dying by a monkey isn't that nice :(
well, Kamina's early death helped in the evolution of the Dai Gurren Dan

Vegeta
10-01-2007, 07:33 PM
I thought the ending was excellent, Yoko fulfilled her promise. And Simon went around the world helping people. Going back to being Simon the Driller.

Cardsharp
10-01-2007, 07:36 PM
I thought the ending was excellent, Yoko fulfilled her promise. And Simon went around the world helping people. Going back to being Simon the Driller.

The ending was fine, the only thing that hit me hard was when simon said he was a nobody :cry

Neji
10-01-2007, 07:37 PM
I never liked Simon the Driller, I always preferred Captain Garlock

Birkin
10-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Kaminas death was majorly dissapointing, if he stayed alive till the anti spiral fight, then his sacrafice could have more meaning, dying by a monkey isn't that nice :(

I'm actually talking about episode 24-25

Those had a much larger impact on me since I didn't get hooked until 11 and was spoiled of Kamina's death.

Hype
10-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Na I was expecting a brain fuck NGE ending but got so much more.

I like the Simon walking away in the distance ending and the few minutes at the end was fitting for me

@lk3mizt
10-01-2007, 07:39 PM
I never liked Simon the Driller, I always preferred Captain Garlock

i loved Simon the driller!

Captain Garlock would have a nice bonus though.. :amuse

Gene
10-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Simon should've hooked up with Yoko or explored the galaxy.

I didn't like it when he became an old hobo. :(

Shiraishi
10-01-2007, 07:44 PM
He's Simon the Driller; he's nothing special except for his true heart and passion to help people. He really wasn't meant to be a leader like Rossiu, or a teacher or sensei like Yoko. He was made and led to be a below average guy who would help when needed.

Simon should've hooked up with Yoko or explored the galaxy.

I didn't like it when he became an old hobo.

Anyone who evens kisses Yoko dies. Simon was smart.

@lk3mizt
10-01-2007, 07:45 PM
he seemed happy though. I would have bombed Gainax if they made him one sad, old man. :rant

Nexas
10-01-2007, 08:42 PM
No I was perfectly fine with Simon dedicating the rest of his life to teaching young children on how to properly drill things instead of helping prevent the future destruction of the universe which he played a major part in :awesome

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 08:46 PM
I was pissed that Nia died, but Simon and her seemed to be alright with it so much that I could not stay angry the whole time. And the last scene was great I thought, except for that "i am nobody" line.

I am also convinced that Boota is immortal.

~Shin~
10-01-2007, 08:51 PM
I loved every part of the ending. It was an epic way to finish off an epic show. A lot of action with a lot of drama. One of the best endings I have seen.

Barak
10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
Yeah only three things upset me about the ending, Simon becomming/admitting he's a nobody, Nia dieing, and Simon handing HIS drill to Gimmy. Gimmy isn't and never will be GAR enough to inherit that Drill.

btw, Simon the Driller = GAR. Look at the episodes where he shouts, "I'm Simon the Driller!!" ep 11, ep 15, ect. Simon the driller fucks people up.

Ciupy
10-01-2007, 09:06 PM
Hated the fact that Nia died..the fact that Simon became a lone wanderer..and that "I am nobody" line broke my freakin heart..

I will not forget this show and especially the ending..

Goddamit Gainax..kings of bittersweet..

~Shin~
10-01-2007, 09:08 PM
The only thing I really hated was the fact that he gave the drill to Gimmy of all people. But that was eclipsed by the sheer GAR of Lagann Impact :iria

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 09:08 PM
Meh just go with the fact that he'll see her and everyone else in the afterlife. And ther is no telling what kind of crazy shit you can get into there:wink

Nisukeita
10-01-2007, 09:11 PM
Anyone else is dissapointed in the ending?


No. ......

ryu77
10-01-2007, 09:14 PM
Is it just me, or Simon is the narrator of the beginning of every episode?? If this is true, he is keeping his legend alive and teaching other people to break through their obstacles..

...but just right now I've come full circle with the 5 stages of grief over Nia's death. I just can't comprehend why it bothered me so much.

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 09:14 PM
Yeah his 41 year old voice was indeed the same as the narrator.

golthin
10-01-2007, 09:18 PM
Hated the fact that Nia died..the fact that Simon became a lone wanderer..and that "I am nobody" line broke my freakin heart..

I will not forget this show and especially the ending..

Goddamit Gainax..kings of bittersweet..

I think it was a good finale episode, but the very ending just gave me the same feelings that Ciupy has. Ciupy and I pretty much agree about the whole "ending". I think it was good but the part about wondering around the world alone with boota and Yoko just being a teacher and also spending her life lonely depressed me. I was content with Yoko going back to her stundents when I thought Simon and Nia ended together. I am not happy at both of them being alone, but I know where Gainax comes from, Spend your life alone after losing the love of your life.

PhantomX
10-01-2007, 09:18 PM
The only thing I really hated was the fact that he gave the drill to Gimmy of all people. But that was eclipsed by the sheer GAR of Lagann Impact :iria

I figured I'd just quote Shin since I agree completely with this. Then again, there wasn't really anyone else he could give his drill to... Yoko was going back to the kids, Dayakka had a family, and I would've sworn off the show for good if he gave it to the Muppetface McHappyTrigger guy.

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 09:19 PM
The people at Gainax must have had really bad love lives.

~Shin~
10-01-2007, 09:23 PM
I think he should have just kept the drill. I mean it was a part of his soul and I thought it was pretty stupid of him to give it to Gimmy.

I'm guessing Gainax makes bittersweet endings because bittersweet endings have longer impact than a happy one.

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 09:24 PM
The fact that a lot of us are still talking about is proof enough of that.

golthin
10-01-2007, 09:27 PM
I'm guessing Gainax makes bittersweet endings because bittersweet endings have longer impact than a happy one.

ok before people come and said that it was not a bittersweet ending, here is AGAIN the definition of bittersweet.

BITTERSWEET=pleasure alloyed with pain

VaizardIchigo
10-01-2007, 09:29 PM
I'd say this fits the definition depending on how one looks at it. I would certainly call it bittersweet.

Juanita Tequila
10-01-2007, 09:43 PM
The ending was satisfiying but was a bit dissapointing too. That whole epliogue made go uhhhhh...so you threw everything you fought for...so you can wandering around?

Razza
10-02-2007, 12:15 AM
I think he should have just kept the drill. I mean it was a part of his soul and I thought it was pretty stupid of him to give it to Gimmy.

I'm guessing Gainax makes bittersweet endings because bittersweet endings have longer impact than a happy one.

Except for the fact that Gurren Lagann is and always will be the most powerful weapon Earth has. He wasn't going to pilot it anymore, so who else is there?

Barak
10-02-2007, 01:42 AM
Except for the fact that Gurren Lagann is and always will be the most powerful weapon Earth has. He wasn't going to pilot it anymore, so who else is there?

you know, I've thought about this and the ending COULD have been worse.
He could have handed the drill to Rossiu :pek

that would've been much worse

Prince Leon
10-02-2007, 01:50 AM
Nope. I just finished watching the finale and there wasn't one drop of disappointment in my mind, body, or soul. It was too awesome for that to be so.

Moondoggie
10-02-2007, 01:57 AM
I actually enjoyed the ending up until before the ending credits.
It may just be me, but the 20 years older designs for some characters seemed a bit over the top. Yoko, Rossiu, and Simon seemed more like 40 years had past compared to others. Other then that it felt like a Gainax ending I'd expect, though I'd have liked it if Simon stayed with everyone.

golthin
10-02-2007, 02:27 AM
I am also convinced that Boota is immortal.

I brought that point and somebody immedialtely said "nah nah"!
He doesn't explain to me how a pig mole is alive after 20 years and doesn't look old. He probably got the same treatement as Viral!

Xell
10-02-2007, 02:29 AM
I think people are being a bit unfair..

The fight was epic.. Who wasn't pleased at seeing Lazengann again? And then the final effort, as each Gurren Lagann tries to fight. In the end, Lagann dealing the final blow.

I was pleased with the ending.

Rokudaime
10-02-2007, 02:30 AM
The ending kinda good when Simon decided to walk away but the epilogue isnt that good...it make everyone look very very old...

I wish Gainax should have stopped at the ending scene instead adding another epilogue.

and does mean Old-Simon now have super-natural ability since one of his eye is Spiral'ed

golthin
10-02-2007, 02:32 AM
I think people are being a bit unfair..

The fight was epic.. Who wasn't pleased at seeing Lazengann again? And then the final effort, as each Gurren Lagann tries to fight. In the end, Lagann dealing the final blow.

I was pleased with the ending.


people are too broad about what the ending is, Ending is basically from the wedding till the THE END word. If you mention the battle and the rest of the episode you are talking about the "Final episode" as a whole and not the "ending"

Jetstorm
10-02-2007, 02:48 AM
My only problem was Gimmy getting the core drill and Nia being unable to live on.

Akatsuki99
10-02-2007, 08:39 AM
I thought the ending was good

Undercovermc
10-02-2007, 08:50 AM
The final episode itself was one of the best, but the actually ending with Simon and the little boy was a disappointing. I say that because it indicates that the legacy of the most powerful spiral being in the universe won't be remembered by the new generation.

Pandaza
10-02-2007, 08:53 AM
i think the ending was ok but it couldve been better

Kaki
10-02-2007, 10:39 AM
Those had a much larger impact on me since I didn't get hooked until 11 and was spoiled of Kamina's death. You don't have to be moved by seeing him die. You can feel it in his absence or when he returns.

He really wasn't meant to be a leader like Rossiu, or a teacher or sensei like Yoko. He was made and led to be a below average guy who would help when needed.But he evolved past that.

he seemed happy though. I would have bombed Gainax if they made him one sad, old man.he was a washed up, sad, old man.

Xell
10-02-2007, 10:55 AM
people are too broad about what the ending is, Ending is basically from the wedding till the THE END word. If you mention the battle and the rest of the episode you are talking about the "Final episode" as a whole and not the "ending"

But the build up towards the ending shouldn't make you think "Argh, I hate this". Sure, some of you may have hated the execution of it, but let's think, we got everything we wanted in the end, even seeing Simon and Nia getting married and kissing, telling they love eachother.

Let's face it.. After that, what else could they have done? There's nothing epic they could have done in a matter of 2 minutes, and I think that's the closest we'll get to 'awesome' in such a short time. Only thing which bothered me were the ending character designs.

Doggie
10-02-2007, 01:02 PM
No, I loved the ending. It was fucking awesome.

I even liked the final scene with Simon. Ultimately, Simon wasn't looking for fame or recognition, and the final scene showed this pretty well. After he'd finished what he was supposed to do, he left and did his own thing. Who knows what else he did between the wedding and the epilogue? And I thought the "I am nobody " line was kind of cool. It showed that he realised the need to make way for the new generation.

RedRoninMan
10-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Crazed GARlock and Bootaide would have been better than Hobo Shimon.

Oh yeah, and they killed off my favorite female anime character :/ Fukkin Gainax

At least viral is still awesome (even though it looks like yoko cut his hair)

Kaki
10-02-2007, 03:11 PM
That last line kinda showed that it's ok to give up on yourself if you're old or if you did what you wanted to do, or if you lost what you loved most.

Not too cool.

Razza
10-02-2007, 08:05 PM
It's not that I didn't like old Simon, It just seems sorta like he gave up after Nia died... unless he became some awesome wandering driller somewhere.

Kaki
10-02-2007, 09:04 PM
Or if that eye was explained a bit...

Taleran
10-02-2007, 09:06 PM
I personally though the ending was exactally the ending that the series needed

and loved it.

golthin
10-02-2007, 09:09 PM
Or if that eye was explained a bit...

actually we did get what we wanted. I posted this in the external thread but most people come here. We got our garlock, Simon ended like harlock in the tragic side of things. Both of them lost their beloved WIVE and ended drifting around, Harlock in space and Simon all over earth.

Kaki
10-02-2007, 09:14 PM
okok, so once he lost her he lost everything and was a good as dead.

Supa Swag
10-02-2007, 09:39 PM
It was sad but I loved it.

But how did Simon get that spiral in his one eye?

ryu77
10-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Better ending:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/ryu1977/1191362076095.jpg

Pandaza
10-02-2007, 11:46 PM
Better ending:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/ryu1977/1191362076095.jpg

i rofl, haha, oh man that was great

Razza
10-03-2007, 12:00 AM
Thats the other great thing about this show. The endless jokes that spawn from its lines, not in mock but in love. "Gattai" "Pierce ___'s Heavens with ___'s drill." Ect ect.

donkee
10-03-2007, 12:06 AM
Loved the fight. Loved Nia disappearing. The only thing that pissed me off was it had no correlation with the opening sequence in episode one. I always thought theyd end with that, but noooooo. Hobo Simon had to give his mojo to Gimmy. Lame.

Kaki
10-03-2007, 12:09 AM
Well, the opening of episode one was kinda like when the set off right?

donkee
10-03-2007, 12:23 AM
They didnt exactly know they had to fight an entire galaxy then... or stars. They also had balf-human Boota in the opening sequence with the most bad ass Simon Ive ever seen. I dont know, guess I just wanted to hear Simon yell "Spin on" just once... Gurren Brigade vs Galaxy is so much more Gar than hobo Simon passing a legacy, anyway.

VaizardIchigo
10-03-2007, 12:37 AM
i rofl, haha, oh man that was great

Would Simon giving her a mass of spiral energy as soon as he learned what was happening not have worked?

chaosas
10-30-2007, 09:50 PM
It would be cool if there was an OVA or something like that where they find Simon and tell him that they need him again :) And he captains a spaceship :nuts

RetroElectro
10-30-2007, 10:16 PM
I actually cried when Nia died. I didn't like her, at all. In fact, she was probably one of my least liked characters. Meh.
Seeing ole' Shiimone all old was... I dunno, peculiar. It was like Gainax was saying, 'HAY GUYS I'M SHIMONE AND I LEFT THAT AMAZING CITY THAT HAD A STATUE OF MY BELOVED ANIKI AND WENT OFF DOING RANDOM SHIT SO SCREW YOU ALL, LOL'.

Pringer Lagann
10-31-2007, 02:28 PM
If anything I really wasn't disappointed from the ending. The only thing that could have made it better was Simon handing the drill to Darry.