A even more fair match. King Bumi vs Kankuro

[Giovanni Rild]

Both are bloodlusted. Battle takes place in Bumi's Arena. Kankuro has 3 solider pills.

Who wins?

[vagnard]

Kankuro doesn't need soldier pills. He is faster than Bumi...just a poisoned weapon an Bumi is out.

This isn't a fair match. If Kankuro can trap Sakon so easily then he can do the same with Bumi.

Curbstomp. This isn't a fair match.

A fair match is Avatar vs Full Metal Alchemist.

[Giovanni Rild]

Kankuro doesn't need soldier pills. He is faster than Bumi...just a poisoned weapon an Bumi is out.

This isn't a fair match. If Kankuro can trap Sakon so easily then he can do the same with Bumi.

Curbstomp. This isn't a fair match.

A fair match is Avatar vs Full Metal Alchemist.

Kankuro isn't that fast and it's Bumi's home turf, he would have a advantage. He can go underground and bend from there.

You can't say how fast he is because you don't know so stop assuming.

Kankuro isn't that fast and wouldn't get the drop on him in a open arena.

Bumi will crush him eventually

[vagnard]

Kankuro isn't that fast and it's Bumi's home turf, he would have a advantage. He can go underground and bend from there.+

Pre-timeskip Kankuro had speed 2 in databook making him a average genin of Naruto's generation. So he certainly wasn't slow. Even the slowest ninjas like Chouji are way faster than regular humans like Avatar characters. And he is very fast using his puppets...he was able to trap Sakon easily. He didn't went underground against Aang...why he would do against Kankuro? Stop assuming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwtyjNGb1_Y

You can't say how fast he is because you don't know so stop assuming.

Yes, I can. He was "2" in speed according to the databook before the timeskip. That put him above several other genins. He wasn't slow and his puppets are fast enough to catch a taijutsu specialist like Sakon.


Kankuro isn't that fast and wouldn't get the drop on him in a open arena.

Bumi will crush him eventually

Kankuro has normal speed for a regular ninja = pwned avatar character. One scratch of Kankuro's puppets = dead Bumi.

Naruto's puppeters have to many tricks that Bumi wouldn't be able to understand with less speed and no-knowledge about ninja arts.

[Steven Pinhead]

Bumi could just pull him up to his neck in dirt and rock and leave him there. Kankuro has shown nothing that makes me believe he's not one of the slowest characters in the show.

Also, the only real speed feat other than stuff from Sasuke Post-skip and similar things is when Naruto out-ran a train in the first Naruto movie. Those go what, 50 mph? 60 maybe? And Naruto could barely manage to do it.

The majority of Naruto is barely above peak human in terms of speed abilities.

[Pein]

Bumi could just pull him up to his neck in dirt and rock and leave him there. Kankuro has shown nothing that makes me believe he's not one of the slowest characters in the show.

Also, the only real speed feat other than stuff from Sasuke Post-skip and similar things is when Naruto out-ran a train in the first Naruto movie. Those go what, 50 mph? 60 maybe? And Naruto could barely manage to do it.

The majority of Naruto is barely above peak human in terms of speed abilities.
you serious

[Grandmaster Kane]

wow poeple underestimate avatar alot

[Crimson Dragoon]

wow poeple underestimate Naruto alot

Fixed it for you.

[Grandmaster Kane]

I wanna have buttscex with sasuke all night long. smile-bigsmile-bigsmile-big

fixed for ya

[Birkin]

Kankuro hasn't done shit to prove his speed.

Databook is non-canon.

[Tash]

+

Pre-timeskip Kankuro had speed 2 in databook making him a average genin of Naruto's generation. So he certainly wasn't slow. Even the slowest ninjas like Chouji are way faster than regular humans like Avatar characters. And he is very fast using his puppets...he was able to trap Sakon easily. He didn't went underground against Aang...why he would do against Kankuro? Stop assuming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwtyjNGb1_Y



Yes, I can. He was "2" in speed according to the databook before the timeskip. That put him above several other genins. He wasn't slow and his puppets are fast enough to catch a taijutsu specialist like Sakon.




Kankuro has normal speed for a regular ninja = pwned avatar character. One scratch of Kankuro's puppets = dead Bumi.

Naruto's puppeters have to many tricks that Bumi wouldn't be able to understand with less speed and no-knowledge about ninja arts.

Didn't the databook say Kakashi was lightning speed? As far as I know Kankurou has little to no speed feats.

[Grandmaster Kane]

he has 0 that i know of

I could be wrong thou

[Shoddragon]

he has 0 that i know of

I could be wrong thou

if you like avatar better than naruto like my friend good for you. take your bias and shove it up your butthole. Kankouro wins without too much effort. trying to make "snazy" comebacks like sayingL: hey, stfu NARUTO has barley peak human speedfeats" shows stupidity. also a snow train goes about 100mph btw. a regular human at peak speed, in fact the highest recorded human speed is 22mph. aang speed wise is not peka human considering he is not even an adult yet. King Bumi is an old man and a bit faster than aang. And go underground? you think kankouro would not hear him? He is a puppeter he works with his hands and ears to control puppet movements. kankouro wins easily.

[Grandmaster Kane]

if you like avatar better than naruto like my friend good for you. take your bias and shove it up your butthole. Kankouro wins without too much effort. trying to make "snazy" comebacks like sayingL: hey, stfu NARUTO has barley peak human speedfeats" shows stupidity. also a snow train goes about 100mph btw. a regular human at peak speed, in fact the highest recorded human speed is 22mph. aang speed wise is not peka human considering he is not even an adult yet. King Bumi is an old man and a bit faster than aang. And go underground? you think kankouro would not hear him? He is a puppeter he works with his hands and ears to control puppet movements. kankouro wins easily.

Hear him...underground... You dont even realize how stupid you sound do you?
All i can do is laugh at your idiocy

[Shoddragon]

Hear him...underground... You dont even realize how stupid you sound do you?
All i can do is laugh at your idiocy

why yes, he CAN hear him underground. I do belive Bumi is made up of atoms correct? that means he is made of matter correct? matter contains mass correct? mass moving where there is gravity makes a sound, especialyl a human sized piece of matter digging and bending ground and earth. kankouro wins.

[Grandmaster Kane]

why yes, he CAN hear him underground. I do belive Bumi is made up of atoms correct? that means he is made of matter correct? matter contains mass correct? mass moving where there is gravity makes a sound, especialyl a human sized piece of matter digging and bending ground and earth. kankouro wins.

You made illogical jumps

Sorry but you fail

[Blix]

Bumi could pull of a win.

[DarkBD337]

my vote is for bumi

[Wuzzman]

WTF KING BUMI OWNS KANKURO!!!!! If kankuro puppets can survive being crushed by rocks then, maybe, just maybe, after seeing that vid kankuro may have a chance. Also the Fullmetal Alchmist baddies have already been proven able to own Aktasuki.

[Red]

Doesn't kankuro have poison? if so he'd win assuming he can land one blow. Operative word, assuming.

Earth style has great defense capabilities, he can literally form a protective body armor from the ground. Eventually kankuro will tire.

[Banhammer]

Kankuro has to stay still while his pupets attack.
I could argue bumi's skills right here, but I'll kindly remind everyone that kankuro does not start a fight by imediatly going all out
Bumi sends death blow past from the point where pupets can defend(kiling blow from behind or bellow)
The only bender kankuro has a chance at beating is a waterbender assuming none is considering bending the water in his stomach cannon yet (it's on the cannon TCG but sure...)

[Chocochip]

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Yeah pretty much why Kunkuro wins.

[helpmenow316]

bumi opens the ground right under kan..bumi wins.... Puppet master are not know for there own speed and fighting skills thats why they use puppets...Also am pretty sure in all that there is some ammount of earth element that bumi can bend....

Also i want proof that the train can go 100 mph.

[Giovanni Rild]

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35606

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Yeah pretty much why Kunkuro wins.

I didn't see a single speed feat.

[Banhammer]

puppetmasters known weakness is that they need to stay still to fight
is tgj arguing that kan will sp33dbl1tz?

after seen rild's quote
That's nothing, bumi bends even when traped, he would just smash the pupet he's in go undergound, and then push kankuro underground
om fact, they actually states that the speed is nothing special

[Red]

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Yeah pretty much why Kunkuro wins.

Because you know bumi would just walk up to him and grab his face like an idiot right?

Bumi's a ranged fighter, chucking boulders and such.

And since we're talking feats here how are his strength feats? I can't remember any off head.

[Banhammer]

none, pupets do all the work
and bumi can atack at a distance without throwing rocks, you know?
He can just smack him from behind without having to leave his spot or sink him where he is

[helpmenow316]

Yea basically...He is useless... There is nothing that he can do to hurt king bumi.... Bumi is proble the 2 strongest earth bender in the world..... And that just because toph is able to metal bend..Something that bumi hasnt shown the power to do..but i am pretty sure he knows that it can be done.

[Chocochip]

As in puppet comes from behind? Just like they did, Bumi will throw rocks at a fake Kunkuro, Kunkuro the real one is behind him already and he uses the puppets. No flaw in this plan. Good bye Bumi. Although Kunkuro could probably just jump up to Bumi and slice him.

[Shoddragon]

the scans were showing the puppet's speed, they were keeping up and surpassed skilled taijutsu users. Bumi would be a dumbshit and think of the puppets as silly and try to crush them only to be trapped inside on and then 20 razor sharp daggers come inside and kill him. just like sakon and ukon.

[Giovanni Rild]

the scans were showing the puppet's speed, they were keeping up and surpassed skilled taijutsu users. Bumi would be a dumbshit and think of the puppets as silly and try to crush them only to be trapped inside on and then 20 razor sharp daggers come inside and kill him. just like sakon and ukon.

The damn puppets was slow. And Sakon and Ukon was injured

[Chocochip]

They weren't slow. They moved faster than anything Aang shown. You should debate better and use scans.

[Banhammer]

The scans proved that the speed wasn't impressive, and didn't outspeed him, they traped him, with a long ignored pupet, and with another one that didn't outrun them
Bumi is a hunggar master, and a strategist as well, dumb would be assuming he underestimates his oponents.
He wouldn't try to crush them, he would crush kankuro, and if by some PNJ he does get traped, he could smash his way out.

FYI, you're just asking to be flamed

[Giovanni Rild]

They weren't slow. They moved faster than anything Aang shown. You should debate better and use scans.

You should stop trying to turn lead into gold.

Your scans are the ones under question. The damn puppets wasn't fast at all.

[Chocochip]

Reply with a faster speed or a way Bumi could dogde the fake Kunkuro and know that Kunkuro is behind already killing Bumi with the puppet?

You are just saying crap but I gave a butt load of effort and scans. Until you start arguing better, you pretty much don't get serious replies because I gave why Kunkuro wins with all this proof.

[Giovanni Rild]

Reply with a faster speed or a way Bumi could dogde the fake Kunkuro and know that Kunkuro is behind already killing Bumi with the puppet?

You are just saying crap but I gave a butt load of effort and scans. Until you start arguing better, you pretty much don't get serious replies because I gave why Kunkuro wins with all this proof.

That isn't proof. The puppets wasn't fast. The puppet caught him by surprise.

You want me to agree with you, which I won't

[Red]

As in puppet comes from behind? Just like they did, Bumi will throw rocks at a fake Kunkuro, Kunkuro the real one is behind him already and he uses the puppets. No flaw in this plan. Good bye Bumi. Although Kunkuro could probably just jump up to Bumi and slice him.

From behind like where? how can you sneak up on somebody on a flat plain surface without any obstruction to hide behind?

Further more your forgetting that bumi can protect with rock barriers, I don't think kankuro has shown strength feats but I'm pretty sure he can't punch through solid rock. And slicing rock with a kunai? not plausible.

They weren't slow. They moved faster than anything Aang shown. You should debate better and use scans.
Because you know they can show time references to determine speed through the panels right? it could have bee anywhere fromfive seconds to half a minute. The only thing we know is that he was moving fast, not how fast he was moving.

[Chocochip]

Are you that ill minded?

Kunkuro uses puppets as a trick to make it him, use diversions to get his real self behind, like he did to Sukon/Ukon.

Furthermore, you are forgetting that the puppets could hurt Sakon/Ukon, who easily crushed rocks and had the durability far more than rocks.


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Kunias can go through, but why does that matter? THe puppet can dogde rocks, break them and w/e.

That is retarded. Kunkuro's puppets were going fast as Akamaru and his idiot owner, and they go fast to the point to where they can move faster than the eye. Not just human eyes. That is why they got to hurt Sakon/Ukon in the first place.

If you have to throw away common sense and go ITS A PICTURE YOU CANT TELL TIME LOLRRWRO than go away.

[Banhammer]

bumi can raise the rocks already behind kankuro
Puppetmasters have to stay still behind tp be able to control pupets
Puppets are slow, it's even stated on your own scans, they will not sneak up behind bumi in the time he takes to twirl his toes and sink them all to earth

and that speed is widely interpertable, and it has no time reference.

[Tash]

Those were kunai fused with wind chakra, Kankuro can't infuse wind chakra in kunai.

[Chocochip]

Yes, yet somehow they are able to kill Sakon and Ukon, who are much more durable than rocks.

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35620
Oh that speed is beautiful

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Instead, that is bumi.

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All while Bumis hands are immobile to help.

OH and

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The mere wind crushes any rock near.

They can survive this, their durability>any rock shield of Bumis.

Then if Kunkuros puppets rapestomp that durability, Bumi dies.

[Red]

Are you that ill minded?

Kunkuro uses puppets as a trick to make it him, use diversions to get his real self behind, like he did to Sukon/Ukon. Explain how kankuro can trick bumi into not seeing them when theres nothing to hide in and he's only a couple meters away?

Furthermore, you are forgetting that the puppets could hurt Sakon/Ukon, who easily crushed rocks and had the durability far more than rocks.Red herring. Don't change the topic. How can kankuro hide with nothing to hide in? Hell even the bit with him setting himself up in his puppet pack and making his puppets act like him was all due to prep time, he doesn't have the privilage of foresight in this battle.


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Kunias can go through, but why does that matter? THe puppet can dogde rocks, break them and w/e. Kunais charged with wind chakra can go through, regular kunais can't.


That is retarded. Kunkuro's puppets were going fast as Akamaru and his idiot owner, and they go fast to the point to where they can move faster than the eye. Not just human eyes. That is why they got to hurt Sakon/Ukon in the first place.

If you have to throw away common sense and go ITS A PICTURE YOU CANT TELL TIME LOLRRWRO than go away.So you can judge the speed and reaction time of person with just a picture? wheres your point of reference? or do you want to say "the squiggly lines means who go teh light speed" right? you can't judge speed with out time and distance, rudimentary physics right there. either you provide a reference or concede.

[helpmenow316]

As in puppet comes from behind? Just like they did, Bumi will throw rocks at a fake Kunkuro, Kunkuro the real one is behind him already and he uses the puppets. No flaw in this plan. Good bye Bumi. Although Kunkuro could probably just jump up to Bumi and slice him.
How would kunkuro get behind him with out noticing him?? If he goes under ground he would be able to feel the movement in the ground... Also bumi isnt dumb..He is a fucking 100 plus year old mad genius .

[Chocochip]

Are you that ill minded? Kunkuros fake body basically determines where Bumi looks as in, Bumi only hs 180 vision, not 360. If I need to say more, screw it.

Kunkuros puppets dont need to hide, they can just go straight foward and kill him

Respond to my other post on the last page. I pretty much raped yours in this and the other one.

[Red]

Respond to my other post on the last page. I pretty much raped yours in this and the other one.
Wow. Me and you must be reading a different thread then. Go on with your idiocy.

[helpmenow316]

Are you that ill minded? Kunkuros fake body basically determines where Bumi looks as in, Bumi only hs 180 vision, not 360. If I need to say more, screw it.

Kunkuros puppets dont need to hide, they can just go straight foward and kill him

Respond to my other post on the last page. I pretty much raped yours in this and the other one.

Do you think he would fall for cheap tricks?? thats all puppet master do..

[Banhammer]

I'm glad I don't have to solo tgj while having him on my ignore list no more.
So, he's using the blades known to be able to cut through anything as a reference point for the rest of the kunai's? nice....
and when did kiba and akamaru run faster than the eye?

and if I recall, the twins say the pupets slow, and show confidence that they won't be able to tag them

and if they go head on, gives bumi more than enough time to one-hit-kill kankuro

[Chocochip]

Wow. Me and you must be reading a different thread then. Go on with your idiocy.

Nice way to contribute to the debate. Great job. Anyways, on the post, the one you missed, it shows that the puppets can own Ukon/Sakon's durability which owned Kiba's special form which destroyed rock form air force alone.

@helpmenow...umm he will dogde it because he did face puppet users before right?...right...:notrust

[Red]

Nice way to contribute to the debate. Great job. Anyways, on the post, the one you missed, it shows that the puppets can own Ukon/Sakon's durability which owned Kiba's special form which destroyed rock form air force alone.


Dura what? read a couple pages forward and you see that ukon and sakon where injured enough to split up.

The puppets owned sakon/ukon when they had they're chkra running low from fighting with akamaru. Thats not even a plausible yard stick as what it can or cannot do.

And for your info rock>wood.

[Chocochip]

Haha, yes this is not fiction after all.

Also, the cutting materials are metal so metal>rock? Why do you want to bring realism into this?

EDIT Oh and whoever negged me, you should leave your name. Just like I did.

[Banhammer]

Garruga hit's them and they get wtfpwned for each side, and they get kiled by knives and stabbed by kunais.
Hell, dogpiss is enough to burn their faces like acid.
Unless you intent to say, by pulling a fakt from somwhere I don't wana know about, that state's kankuro's knives are made of adamantium
The pupets owned two guys by making them trip over something they overlooked and got traped.
the story was "sakon and ukon were about to win, but they got stupid and lost. There was even a considerable amount of time during the traping and the stabing
If you watched return to Omashu you know bumi can still earthbend when traped and bound in a case, and he states he can free himself, but he needs to keep his cover so they won't attack Omashu's citizens
That trick of Kankuro's is not gona fly.
Shooting senbon/kunai is not gonna fly either on a guy that can raise stone walls with a flick of his chin, and kankuro' pupets are not faster than that
Poison gas will fail as he digs underground
anything else failse when he sinks kankuro underground

[Chocochip]

Yes Kunkuro the fake puppet? If he is underground it is worse, than Kunkuro can set unlimited traps..

Anyways, you guys never show evidence, I put up scans, I am tired of repeating why Kunkuro wins, I am out.