A more fair match: Aang vs Edward Elric

[vagnard]

All these curbstomp threads against Avatar are really boring. Why they don't make Aang face a guy of his own level?.

I suggest a better match: 2 guys with regular-human reaction/speed with special powers. Alchemy vs Elemental bending.

[Amped Lightning]

uh...unfortunately, ed would lose. aang does not require a clap of his hands to kill someone.
but, with the killing in mind, you aren't allowed to show someone killing another on nickelodeon, so ed might win...

[Giovanni Rild]

All these curbstomp threads against Avatar are really boring. Why they don't make Aang face a guy of his own level?.

I suggest a better match: 2 guys with regular-human reaction/speed with special powers. Alchemy vs Elemental bending.

Real funny. Ed gets raped sideways. Get real. Avatar isn't regular human. You wanna play this game?

[vagnard]

Real funny. Ed gets raped sideways. Get real. Avatar isn't regular human. You wanna play this game?

Beside their elemental powers?. They are regular humans or a little above peak human at best. Just like Edward Elric.

[Giovanni Rild]

Beside their elemental powers?. They are regular humans or a little above peak human at best. Just like Edward Elric.

That's bullshit and you know it.

[vagnard]

That's bullshit and you know it.

Lol. Then please show me feats that proves they are really superhuman. Can someone from Avatar knock out a snake many times bigger than a elephant with a punch?.

Can a bender survive to be punched with such force like Sasuke or Deidara?.

Can a bender survive after his body was smashed through solid rock by a guy who can destroy iron doors with a punch?.

Can someone of Avatar verse move faster than the eye can see?.


No.

[Limit_Tester]

That's bullshit and you know it.

Slightly above speed, slightly more durability, and that's about it. Oh, and two people can jump high.

[Giovanni Rild]

Lol. Then please show me feats that proves they are really superhuman. Can someone from Avatar knock out a snake many times bigger than a elephant with a punch?.

Can a bender survive to be punched with such force like Sasuke or Deidara?.

Can a bender survive after his body was smashed through solid rock by a guy who can destroy iron doors with a punch?.

Can someone of Avatar verse move faster than the eye can see?.


No.

If you have to ask these questions, then you proved that you don't watch avatar.

Because you would know Aang got tossed though solid rock and don't say it was earthbending cause he didn't have enough time to bend.

I just answered 3 of your questions.

Slightly above speed, slightly more durability, and that's about it. Oh, and two people can jump high.

You know I don't care about your opinion.

[Taleran]

You know I don't care about your opinion.


I hope you realize that not caring about one doesn't invalidate it if it happens to be true

[Giovanni Rild]

I hope you realize that not caring about one doesn't invalidate it if it happens to be true
It's not true, that's why I don't care.

[Limit_Tester]

I hope you realize that not caring about one doesn't invalidate it if it happens to be true

Rild gave up trying to debate me months ago. Had his ass handed to him one too many times it seems.

[Giovanni Rild]

Rild gave up trying to debate me months ago. Had his ass handed to him one too many times it seems.

You call making shit up debate? You and your Brother pip are frauds.

[Limit_Tester]

You call making shit up debate? You and your Brother pip are frauds.

Still a flair for the dramatic I see.

[Giovanni Rild]

Still a flair for the dramatic I see.

Not worth my time.

[Taleran]

its kinda funny, just posting 1 thing that counteracts it would work, so....?

[Limit_Tester]

its kinda funny, just posting 1 thing that counteracts it would work, so....?

Well, he should be able to find something for durability.. Speed and strength on the other hand might be a bit of a problem.

[atom]

Rild, get real. I have every episode of the Avatar (Great Series btw, watch it). They are not superhuman. They are SLIGHTLY above PEAK human at BEST. Stop making crap up.

As for the match, Aang would probably win after a tough battle, unless Ed is bloodlust.

[Giovanni Rild]

Rild, get real. I have every episode of the Avatar (Great Series btw, watch it). They are not superhuman. They are SLIGHTLY above PEAK human at BEST. Stop making crap up.

As for the match, Aang would probably win after a tough battle, unless Ed is bloodlust.


We agree on disagreeing I guess.

[EdwardElric]

I vote Ed. I'm not biased or anything...

[vagnard]

If you have to ask these questions, then you proved that you don't watch avatar.

Because you would know Aang got tossed though solid rock and don't say it was earthbending cause he didn't have enough time to bend.

I just answered 3 of your questions..

It's funny how everyone has been handing your ass in this thread.

How did you answered my questions?.

When Aang punched something like the Oro's snake?

When Aang has move faster than the eye can register?.

When Aang was pushed against solid rock like Kakashi?. if you are talking about Bumi fight it doesn't count because that was earth bending.

You haven't answered nothing.

Azula didn't smashed Aang against through solid rock. He just clashed against Ba Sing-Se wall without even crack it a little and he nearly fainted.

They aren't superhuman. Everyone has been telling you. Why are you so stubborn?. Do you think is casual that everyone is limiting Naruto's characters speed in every thread against Avatarverse?.

[Giovanni Rild]

It's funny how everyone has been handing your ass in this thread.

How did you answered my questions?.

When Aang punched something like the Oro's snake?

When Aang has move faster than the eye can register?.

When Aang was pushed against solid rock like Kakashi?. if you are talking about Bumi fight it doesn't count because that was earth bending.

You haven't answered nothing.

Azula didn't smashed Aang against through solid rock. He just clashed against Ba Sing-Se wall without even crack it a little and he nearly fainted.

They aren't superhuman. Everyone has been telling you. Why are you so stubborn?. Do you think is casual that everyone is limiting Naruto's characters speed in every thread against Avatarverse?.

No one has been doing anything. They just happen to agree with you.


Don't make anymore avatar threads with that bias you carry.

[thegoodjae]

If you have to ask these questions, then you proved that you don't watch avatar.

Because you would know Aang got tossed though solid rock and don't say it was earthbending cause he didn't have enough time to bend.

I just answered 3 of your questions.



You know I don't care about your opinion.

It isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

[Giovanni Rild]

It isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

It's your opinion.

[thegoodjae]

Opinion is like, I like Avatar. Fact is like, in the show Avatar, 99 percent of all benders showed no super human abilities except elemental resistence. They all have to ride horses to go travel faster, they all can not jump or run faster than an average human, they have slightly better reaction times, and they need to climb mountains for days to get it, while all super humans can get on a top of a mountain in a jump or two.

Another FACT of Avatar is that only Ty Lee was able to jump such an irregular amount for a human, thus making her super human in that aspect. She is still though, weak in other categories seeing as how sludge make her immobile.

Aang, who many see has super human, only has good reaction time. He is really weak and can not carry much, he never showed running speed, and his combat speed is poor, as shown when fighting Zuko. He has been hit by attacks that are slower then a tennis players serve or a baseball players pitch. He has good elemental resistence though.

These are facts. Not Opinions. These all happened in the show. An opinion is my feeling towards the show, which I like anyways.

[Giovanni Rild]

Opinion is like, I like Avatar. Fact is like, in the show Avatar, 99 percent of all benders showed no super human abilities except elemental resistence. They all have to ride horses to go travel faster, they all can not jump or run faster than an average human, they have slightly better reaction times, and they need to climb mountains for days to get it, while all super humans can get on a top of a mountain in a jump or two.

Another FACT of Avatar is that only Ty Lee was able to jump such an irregular amount for a human, thus making her super human in that aspect. She is still though, weak in other categories seeing as how sludge make her immobile.

Aang, who many see has super human, only has good reaction time. He is really weak and can not carry much, he never showed running speed, and his combat speed is poor, as shown when fighting Zuko. He has been hit by attacks that are slowing then a tennis players serve or a baseball players pitch. He has good elemental resistence though.

These are facts. Not Opinions. These all happened in the show. An opinion is my feeling towards the show, which I like anyways.


You and vanguard have no idea of what you are talking about.

I'm done with debating with ya.

[Limit_Tester]

You and vanguard have no idea of what you are talking about.

I'm done with debating with ya.

I'm pretty sure all you did was say "no, that's your opinion." Debating would be providing evidence to counter us. I can provide plenty of evidence that Aang isn't superhuman.

[neodragzero]

Opinion is like, I like Avatar. Fact is like, in the show Avatar, 99 percent of all benders showed no super human abilities except elemental resistence. They all have to ride horses to go travel faster, they all can not jump or run faster than an average human, they have slightly better reaction times, and they need to climb mountains for days to get it, while all super humans can get on a top of a mountain in a jump or two.

Another FACT of Avatar is that only Ty Lee was able to jump such an irregular amount for a human, thus making her super human in that aspect. She is still though, weak in other categories seeing as how sludge make her immobile.

Aang, who many see has super human, only has good reaction time. He is really weak and can not carry much, he never showed running speed, and his combat speed is poor, as shown when fighting Zuko. He has been hit by attacks that are slowing then a tennis players serve or a baseball players pitch. He has good elemental resistence though.

These are facts. Not Opinions. These all happened in the show. An opinion is my feeling towards the show, which I like anyways.

A post pwning that deserves a rep. Even more so with the response from Rild that follows.

[thegoodjae]

Well, it isn't that great of a post, it is just that Rild just kind of responded to my post by saying...I don't want to debate. lol :) Thanks though.

[Giovanni Rild]

I'm being jumped in this thread and you clowns already made up your mind. Waste of time.

Plus they are people in the domes who know better. So I don't have to waste my time with you, because there are people who see it my way

[thegoodjae]

No, you see, you aren't being jumped. You are being debated against. I wrote that long paragraph and you respond by, I don't deserve this. That is pissing me off, as I took effort in that post, so please respond to it beside sentence long post of how you are so "through" with it.

[Steven Pinhead]

Aang is faster and his powers work quicker.

Ed's only real advantage is he's a hell of a lot smarter and he's more versatile.

Aang wins.

[vagnard]

No one has been doing anything. They just happen to agree with you.


Don't make anymore avatar threads with that bias you carry.

You don't even understand that I like Avatar and I made this thread to make a fair fight where Avatarverse wasn't pwned.

Why you are so stubborn?. It's obvious if you compare feat by feat between Naruto and Avatar they aren't even near. It's not something against Avatar....it's like saying Naruto can beat DBZ...it makes no sense. Why do you think most threads are puting such limitations to Naruto's characters in first place?.

[Giovanni Rild]

You don't even understand that I like Avatar and I made this thread to make a fair fight where Avatarverse wasn't pwned.

Why you are so stubborn?. It's obvious if you compare feat by feat between Naruto and Avatar they aren't even near. It's not something against Avatar....it's like saying Naruto can beat DBZ...it makes no sense. Why do you think most threads are puting such limitations to Naruto's characters in first place?.

I could ask the same thing. But I'm done with it.

[Limit_Tester]

I could ask the same thing. But I'm done with it.

You haven't even made one point.

[Segan]

@Rild: If you want people to agree with you, then you need to debate at least. What you never did in this thread.
Come on, the OBD lives on that "bullshit".

[Marsala]

Aang wins. His earthbending basically cancels out 90% of Ed's usual alchemy attacks, assuming that they are on normal ground, and his airbending gives him a considerable speed and maneuverability advantage over Ed.

Mustang might be a better choice here. His fire alchemy rivals the best firebenders, though I don't think that he would win, either.

[vagnard]

I could ask the same thing. But I'm done with it.

So...if everyone else is pointing how much you are failing is the world who is wrong and not you?. Lol

[Taleran]

I'm being jumped in this thread and you clowns already made up your mind. Waste of time.

Plus they are people in the domes who know better. So I don't have to waste my time with you, because there are people who see it my way

lulz this seems like cowardice in the face of adversity to me.

[Manwë Súlimo]

...

I'm with Rild. I'm sick of the underrating of the Avatarverse here, especially Aang. His normal running speed doesn't matter if he can use airbending. He's durable enough to be blasted 100 yards into solid rock and still fight. And his airbending attacks/defenses are underrated, too.

[Grandmaster Kane]

Ang would kill him pretty effortless ly if they are both bloodlusted
if they arent however ed most likely wins

[Segan]

I don't think Ed being bloodlusted is someone Aang would want to fight.

[EdwardElric]

To be fair, Aang probably could take Ed, seeing as how both are only a little above regular humans, cause Aang has a better variety of powers, and a faster way of using them. Ed with preptime or Mustang's glove might make it a bit more even. However, to say that Avatarverse chars are superhuman, though, is another thing entirely. Really, no one in Avatar has shown speed comparable to most Naruto chars, not even when Aang is airbending. They do seem to have a bit above average durability though, but not nearly anything that Naruto hasn't seen.

[Grandmaster Kane]

Fact bllodlusted ang would decapitate ed from over 100feet away
Fact ang doesnt do it to people because it goes completely against what air beneders are about

[Shoddragon]

I'm being jumped in this thread and you clowns already made up your mind. Waste of time.

Plus they are people in the domes who know better. So I don't have to waste my time with you, because there are people who see it my way

dude, my opinion is avatar is a garbage show. samurai jack>>>>> it. fact is:

Avatar has not shown anything considered above peak human speed.
Nothing over peak human strengh.
TY lee only person to do anything considered even slightly superhuman.

Not sure if she posted here, but as much of an OPtard she she is, I bet even people liek suzumebachi or lambda would agree that avatar is just NOT supermhuman verse, Spirits are the ONLY things they have going for them, and its poorly illustrated as it is.

Just because a show you like loses does not mean you have to go be a troll about it.

I'll be honest, whenever i see lets say naruto lose a match against luffy, I get pissed, I like naruto much more than luffy. But most of the time, since maybe about a couple o months ago, I stopped myself from making retarded shit like "pein vs Oz thread" or "naruto wins because he owns harder" or shit like that. Leave your attitude and bias on your desktop.

If you think aang wins, descrive why. state some feats or show some episode evidence. don't bash others because they provide evidence that is totally factual and you try to treat it as mere opinion. in fact, it is YOUR OPINION that wat they say is an opinion, when it is clearly stated to be canon fact.

hatey edit: no flaming

[Azure Flame Kite]

This is exactly how it would go
Aang: Hey shorty
Ed: You bastard I am no shorter than you
Aang earthbends making ed sink into the ground slightly
Aang: Yes you are
Ed: I am not short
Ed uses alchemy to shoot out spikes and release himself from ground
Great unmerciful battle ensues then Aang attempts avatar state, Aang floats up taking hour upon hour to transform, maybe it is a few seconds i forget :)
Ed: I gotta be home soon I gonna wrap it up
Stabs metal blade through Aang's chest, Appa and katara come to take him away and heal him, Fight ends Winner Aang: because he has a nurse taking care of him
Winner Ed: Goes home eats stew remembers there is milk spits out and then resumes eating
True Winner: Me I walked in mid-way to rip-off Eds' automail (can't blame me it is badass, now I can bench 400 pounds with 1 hand)

[Banhammer]

If all Ed can do is transmutate mater, than earth is still earth, and water is stil water right? (I never read the manga and I stoped watching after the time he either turns into a state alchemist or they kll the guy making chimeras with his family)
That should mean Aang can still bend anything he throws at him
Starting blodlusted would be a big mistake for Ed

[helpmenow316]

i think people under estimate Avworld a little to much..If ang really want to he can stop ed from breathing...Fight over..He can do the same thing with any other person he is up against...Plus with his water bending he can control the water in eds body and make him in to a puppet...

[Segan]

If all Ed can do is transmutate mater, than earth is still earth, and water is stil water right? (I never read the manga and I stoped watching after the time he either turns into a state alchemist or they kll the guy making chimeras with his family)
That should mean Aang can still bend anything he throws at him
Starting blodlusted would be a big mistake for Ed

Well, transmutation means you use alchemy to transform something in an other object. For example he could create a spear from the ground, or whatever is possible.

Or some metal wires out of a granit wall.

[Banhammer]

I see..
And what's stoping him from getting an airblade to the neck?

[helpmenow316]

doesnt even need a air blade..Aang can just bend the water and air out of any one he fights.

[Banhammer]

he "could" and bending the water in an enemie's body is a TCG move, but airblade makes it cleaner

[helpmenow316]

Yea but it so much easyer

[Segan]

Ed is an above-human-peak martial artist, if that counts for something...

[Banhammer]

it actually does matter, but aang is a master in a kung fu ar that usually takes it's thwenty years, plus he's really good at a more generic kind, so he kinda gets the martial art upper hand.
plus there is the windblade to the neck, or the volcaing pawning yawn

[The Pink Ninja]

Hmmm...

It would seems to favour Aang but all the way through FMA I wondered how Ed could hope to beat the opponents he faced they were so strong, and he could.

I wouldn't underestimate Fullmetal, he's a very tricky, persistant and clever fighter.

And he has better access to fatal finisher moves than Aang does.

[Banhammer]

One moove, air blade, chops through your neck, finished
One moove, water bullet through the skull, finished

[Azure Flame Kite]

I already explained exactly how the fight would happen you shouldn't still be going especially you fourthnin you are wrong (you will always be wrong in my opinion no matter how right you actually are :))

[Banhammer]

If it's a brawl you're pickin' then a brawl you'll have!
Aang: Here I am, were is my enemy?
Ed: I'm right here you a** hole
Aang: Huh, who said that?
Ed: I did, pay atention to MEEEEE!
Aang: I could swear I was suposed to fight someone *scratches head*
Ed: Oh, I'm gonna woop your bald ass
Aang: Oh well, let's get out of here
Ed:Hey, watch were you're going, hey, hey, hey, HAAAAAAA *squish*
Aang: Oh no, I stepped on a helpless bug :(
Ed:Fuck you tente...*dies*

[Piekage]

One moove, air blade, chops through your neck, finished
One moove, water bullet through the skull, finished

Has Aang ever shown that he's capable of anything like that? I'm halfway through season two and I don't recall seeing anything like that.

[Banhammer]

It's in the later seasons he chops a vulture's head off with an air blade, and he also chops up rocks all the time with airbending, and he pierces through mettal pilars with water.
It takes him a while to copmletly sow off one, but he can pierce it nonetlees (like cuting a stake with a steel needle) so it should be quite easier to do it on a bonse skull