Iron Man (Extremis) vs. The Strawhats

[Kuya]

Who takes this? Battle in NYC.

[Havoc]

He could just fly up and pick them off one by one. =/

[TWF]

What exactly can the Strawhats do about the whole flight and laser cannon advantages that his power suit gives to him?

[Banhammer]

I think he even has a waterhose somewhere in that suit.....

[neodragzero]

What exactly can the Strawhats do about the whole flight and laser cannon advantages that his power suit gives to him?

Plenty enough. Robin to mess up Iron Man's aim while the long distance attack having character pile it on. Iron Man gets punked by 100 ton leaguers.

[Havoc]

Who punks IM that would lose to Luffy?

[neodragzero]

Who punks IM that would lose to Luffy?

The Thing would do well enough. This a still a bout where you have him facing a bunch of characters that exist on a basis that turns science inside out and upside down. Although of course the Iron Man thing, and Marvel in general, isn't exactly the most logical in the science department. Power and speed mean nothing to Robin while Franky has his coup devent, Zoro's flying sword attacks, etc. Along with Tony being the type that fights up close, no matter how stupid it may be to do so... How many times now has it been shown that Tony isn't the type to fight from a distance? It would be a different story though if we were talking about Ultimate Tony.

[Havoc]

Tony would fight from a distance unless he thinks he has a chance fighting hth, hence the Hulkbuster armor.

The Thing would not punk IM. Even if he won it would not be a curbstomp.

[neodragzero]

Tony would fight from a distance unless he thinks he has a chance fighting hth, hence the Hulkbuster armor.

He seems to think he has a chance at beating just about anyone at a close distance. And do you really think Tony would automatically think to treat the Strawhats seriously from the get go?

The Thing would not punk IM. Even if he won it would not be a curbstomp.
The Thing basically being in one piece while IM is down says differently. Iron Man with Extremis has basically been punked by a range of teenager using him as a puppet to Thor and Hulk both pwning him to Ultron even taking him over and changing him to a chick. I'm actually saying this in jest but the fact that it's happened is quite sad, minus the Thor beating though. He's overconfident time and time again with fighting opponents up close rather than trying it at a distance. Ultimate Tony is the one that fights at a relative distance. At least he did during the invasion of the US arc that recently ended.

[Darklyre]

Iron Man gets punked by Ultron and such due to Extremis giving him a vulnerability to computer hacks.

[Havoc]

He seems to think he has a chance at beating just about anyone at a close distance. And do you really think Tony would automatically think to treat the Strawhats seriously from the get go?

The Thing basically being in one piece while IM is down says differently. Iron Man with Extremis has basically been punked by a range of teenager using him as a puppet to Thor and Hulk both pwning him to Ultron even taking him over and changing him to a chick. I'm actually saying this in jest but the fact that it's happened is quite sad, minus the Thor beating though. He's overconfident time and time again with fighting opponents up close rather than trying it at a distance. Ultimate Tony is the one that fights at a relative distance. At least he did during the invasion of the US arc that recently ended.
Thor, Hulk, and Ultron are stronger than anyone in Strawhats...

[neodragzero]

Iron Man gets punked by Ultron and such due to Extremis giving him a vulnerability to computer hacks.
After Iron Man fans, including myself, talk of the extremis allowing him to access any technological advance and so on. Getting screwed over so many times with tech you should know about more than anyone else short of the woman that made extremis is kind of odd after a writer expresses the above ability.

Anyway, can anyone explain how exactly Tony would stay at a distance from the get go in contradiction to the many times that he keeps fighting just about anyone up close?

[Havoc]

IM always uses repulsor beams too.

He would not try to fight a group of people in hth combat.

[neodragzero]

IM always uses repulsor beams too.

He would not try to fight a group of people in hth combat.

And his repulsor beams are impossible to dodge? Would it really be wise to use that against Robin that can easily enough shift his hands to face the attack against himself?

But really, I need something to be made clear here. Does this bout even have Tony knowing anything to warn him about what he's facing? If not, he's not coming out so well for this with overconfidence and ego...

[Havoc]

And his repulsor beams are impossible to dodge? Would it really be wise to use that against Robin that can easily enough shift his hands to face the attack against himself?

But really, I need something to be made clear here. Does this bout even have Tony knowing anything to warn him about what he's facing? If not, he's not coming out so well for this with overconfidence and ego...

Who said they were impossible to dodge?

You said he would try to attack close, which is dumb, because he would not try to attack a group of fighters he knows nothing about in hth combat.

[Giovanni Rild]

Why would Iron Man do something that would surely get him killed?

[neodragzero]

Who said they were impossible to dodge?

You said he would try to attack close, which is dumb, because he would not try to attack a group of fighters he knows nothing about in hth combat.

And Tony would automatically consider them a group of fighters to be cautious over how? It's not like the group has a menacing look to begin with. Tony does still have a history of attacking up close the unknown and known.

[Havoc]

Neo, Tony is not an idiot, that's how.

When was the last time IM tried to take on a group of people ny himself by runniing up and punhing them?

[Darklyre]

Iron Man demands that the Straw Hats register and promptly kicks them into the Negative Zone.

[neodragzero]

Neo, Tony is not an idiot, that's how.

Attacking Thor was smart how? I'm not calling Tony an idiot. Just that he doesn't come off as the type that would look at the Straw Hats and automatically stay at a distance in fear.

When was the last time IM tried to take on a group of people ny himself by runniing up and punhing them?
I didn't say running up and punching them. Just that he's not going to be up in the sky out of arms length. You can't really expect him to be cautious with the way they look and the ego that he has. But it doesn't really matter when Robin is still in the picture to screw him up while the rest lay it on him.

[Guy Gardner]

Iron Man would turn on Light-Negativity to allow him to scout out the situation first. That's a given, and I'm not exactly sure if the Straw Hats have anything that would help them with that.

[Darklyre]

Attacking Thor was smart how? I'm not calling Tony an idiot. Just that he doesn't come off as the type that would look at the Straw Hats and automatically stay at a distance in fear.

I didn't say running up and punching them. Just that he's not going to be up in the sky out of arms length. You can't really expect him to be cautious with the way they look and the ego that he has. But it doesn't really matter when Robin is still in the picture to screw him up while the rest lay it on him.

Robin forms arms on him. Tony activates massive electrical discharge. Robin's fucked.

[neodragzero]

Robin forms arms on him. Tony activates massive electrical discharge. Robin's fucked.

Not really. She has been able to quickly enough remove her arms before any damage is done upon them. Much less that I'm speaking of a sudden pop up of her arms to mess with Tony long enough for the rest to pile it on. Just being distracted for even couple of seconds should be enough to get hit with a coup devent. Again, how exactly would Tony look at the strawhats and automatically think they are fighters to be wary of?

[Banhammer]

the armor would calculate the probability of victory in hand to hand, plus, it sends near impossible to dodge laser beams (they have to be reacted to before he fires) and has tracking devices and trajectori calculators
Tony stark is not needed for this fight
plus, he could always just use the sentinel incernerating beam on reverse polarity, I'm pretty sure he has that. I mean, damn, he even has a lipsouction machine, trey of deserts, and a pron colection in that copret of his.
If it's mechanical, he's got it.....

[Darklyre]

Not really. She has been able to quickly enough remove her arms before any damage is done upon them. Much less that I'm speaking of a sudden pop up of her arms to mess with Tony long enough for the rest to pile it on. Just being distracted for even couple of seconds should be enough to get hit with a coup devent. Again, how exactly would Tony look at the strawhats and automatically think they are fighters to be wary of?

Have you READ Civil War? He takes one look at Franky and sees a superhuman of some kind, and immediately smashes them Irondick style.

[neodragzero]

Have you READ Civil War? He takes one look at Franky and sees a superhuman of some kind, and immediately smashes them Irondick style.

He takes a look at Franky and thinks weirdo. Does Franky really look that menacing? It's not like looking like a mix of poppy and metrosexual guy with a speed fills one terror. How many times now has Tony flown down and tried to intimidate someone into registering rather than going full blast? It's just all the more likely he'll underestimate them.

the armor would calculate the probability of victory in hand to hand,
The same armor I'm guessing that Tony wears thinking he can take on Thor...

[Green Lantern]

Are we talking about Iron Man in character or out of character?

Cause if OOC, then orbital bombardment ftw.

[Banhammer]

you can't compute against magic

[neodragzero]

Are we talking about Iron Man in character or out of character?

Cause if OOC, then orbital bombardment ftw.

Agreed. The kind of OOC that Ultimate Tony operates on.:amuse With a drink on hand...

[Darklyre]

He takes a look at Franky and thinks weirdo. Does Franky really look that menacing? It's not like looking like a mix of poppy and metrosexual guy with a speed fills one terror. How many times now has Tony flown down and tried to intimidate someone into registering rather than going full blast? It's just all the more likely he'll underestimate them.

The same armor I'm guessing that Tony wears thinking he can take on Thor...

Tony's apparently never seen Thor quite as powerful as he is now.

[neodragzero]

Tony's apparently never seen Thor quite as powerful as he is now.

Hasn't Thor always been powerful? He's a guy that has fought cosmic beings many, many times. To think that his attack would really have an effect is kind of a ego trip. The fact he underestimates someone that always had a power level to smack him around is kind of odd. And I was actually a Tony fan...before he's written to act kind of dumb in CW.

[Banhammer]

well, still, he should be able to handle strawhats
massice rape if this is in the ship, I mean, BANG ship sinks

[Havoc]

Hasn't Thor always been powerful? He's a guy that has fought cosmic beings many, many times. To think that his attack would really have an effect is kind of a ego trip. The fact he underestimates someone that always had a power level to smack him around is kind of odd. And I was actually a Tony fan...before he's written to act kind of dumb in CW.

I don't think IM has ever seen Thor fight a cosmic.

[neodragzero]

I don't think IM has ever seen Thor fight a cosmic.

Does seeing Thor beat the crap out of Loki and his son, with them both armed with uru hammers, with his bare hands count?

[Havoc]

Does seeing Thor beat the crap out of Loki and his son, with them both armed with uru hammers, with his bare hands count?

No .

[Banhammer]

Does seeing Thor beat the crap out of Loki and his son, with them both armed with uru hammers, with his bare hands count?
no
I don't really think so.

[neodragzero]

No .

So you're saying that Tony has no info, no data, nothing on Thor's level of power being enough to face heralds? While taking on two gods that are both armed with a uru hammer means a lot.

[Banhammer]

So you're saying that Tony has no info, no data, nothing on Thor's level of power being enough to face heralds? While taking on two gods that are both armed with a uru hammer means a lot.

yes.

Thor was in a power trip atm and thought he could do it because he made Aries do it.