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earthshine
09-25-2007, 03:54 PM
well, since a suprising amount of people seem to think toph could best itachi in a one on one fight, I want to see other's opinions on avatar characters.


deidara has access to all his jutsu, and unlimited clay.


just for the fun of it, let's say toph has sight for this fight, and the avatar group have full knowledge of deidara's jutsu.


avatar state is off limits, and the fight takes place in the same place where deidara fought sasuke.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 03:56 PM
deidara has an earth element, toph solos.
she has sight but she still hs the vibration vision right?
Oh and flying clay is sent off back at her through earthbend
Katara is only a hinderance here

rockst☆r sin
09-25-2007, 03:58 PM
Toph is already broken and your giving her sight? She would be even more powerful. Katara might not be a factor since Deidara is a long distance fighter. I think Aang and Toph could solo this.

Grandmaster Kane
09-25-2007, 04:53 PM
Ang brings the bird down and toph drops a mountain on him

or

toph machine guns d down

earthshine
09-25-2007, 05:06 PM
yes, because it is not like deidara can drop nukes or anything.


oh, wait.


and drop a mountain on him?

1: toph has never shown to be that powerful

2: deidara flies.

3: they would have to focus more on dodging the giant explosives then attacking.



sasuke, who is WAY faster and with fgar better reaction tims then any avatar character, was barely able to dodge dei's bombs, and in fact got hit a few times. yet people who are way slower and don't have a special eye that allows them to predict attacks get away easily?



SASUKE was having problems dodging them. do you think his bombs are slow or something? avatar characters can't move or react anywhere near the speed of sasuke, and yet they somehow magically defend from all his attacks and kill him.

yea, makes sense.



also, people are overestimating aang. he has not shown some super wind attack or something that could bowl dei off his bird. he uses it in small bursts that can, and often are, dodged or blocked by people with much slower reaction speed then deidara.

Suzumebachi
09-25-2007, 05:09 PM
Are these joke posts?

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 05:22 PM
aang sliced the head of a bird really far away with a single wind moove, he can bounce all of them bugs back, even if toph can't do them for some reason (even if these things are earth element), wind wind kaiten.

Sasuke is not to be taken seriously as a fighter by noone

Purgatory
09-25-2007, 05:53 PM
C4 Garuda and the microscopic bombs should do the Avatar team in.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 05:55 PM
Toph sees the bombs, wind kaiten screws up, waterbending heals from them.

earthbending sends al other bombs to hell

Purgatory
09-25-2007, 05:57 PM
Toph sees the bombs, wind kaiten screws up, waterbending heals from them.

earthbending sends al other bombs to hell

How the Hell can you see microscopic bombs? Unless Toph has Byakugan, she won't be able to see something as big as the cells in your body.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 06:00 PM
toph could see trace amounts of earth in a metal plaque.
though even if deidara got enough distance between them (he cant outrun aang or toph) by the time she explodes the thing, she already has a water knife through her stomach

earthshine
09-25-2007, 06:03 PM
toph could see trace amounts of earth in a metal plaque.
though even if deidara got enough distance between them (he cant outrun aang or toph) by the time she explodes the thing, she already has a water knife through her stomach
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toph can see things when touching it. if you did not notice, toph needs to have physical contact with metal to bend it.


and also, are you on crack? deidara is WAY faster then either of them. he was able to see sasuke's shunshin coming and dodge it, yet you think he can be outpaced by normal humans?

Suzumebachi
09-25-2007, 06:08 PM
toph could see trace amounts of earth in a metal plaque.

She felt them. o_O She didn't see them.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 06:10 PM
first, deidara would never start off with with nanites
second, deidara would be grounded and imobilised on the floor by the time he thinks of pulling that trick
third, he was fast enough to get caught by gaara's sand, the slowest thing known in narutoverse
Fourth, that speed feat counts for nothing, for all we know that was a clay bunshin all along since he was using a loong ago designed plan to take out itachi.
Fifth, nanites never close to them since aang's constant airbending and toph's earthbending keeps sending them away.
Sixth, toph did not need to be in contact with rocks to predict the sense the moovement of the flying rocks shot by a catapult in a ship.

Purgatory
09-25-2007, 06:13 PM
toph could see trace amounts of earth in a metal plaque.
though even if deidara got enough distance between them (he cant outrun aang or toph) by the time she explodes the thing, she already has a water knife through her stomach

Even if she could see them, she can't outrun so many of them since they're spread out. One inhale of breath would kill her.

Grandmaster Kane
09-25-2007, 06:15 PM
yes, because it is not like deidara can drop nukes or anything. I know he cant

oh, wait.

and drop a mountain on him?

1: toph has never shown to be that powerful Doesnt mean she cant. Avatar has been on what? 2 season?

2: deidara flies. Are your retarded? I already addressed that. And deidara doesnt fly. His bird and/or dragon does

3: they would have to focus more on dodging the giant explosives then attacking. The speed deidara attacks is laughable



sasuke, who is WAY faster and with fgar better reaction tims then any avatar character, was barely able to dodge dei's bombs, and in fact got hit a few times. yet people who are way slower and don't have a special eye that allows them to predict attacks get away easily?
Avatar > naruto in terms of reaction speed so STFU if you dont know what your talking about. And sasuke wasnt "barely able to dodge" deidaras bombs. Deidara is just a better strategist. And they kinda do have a specail eye. Toph. Clay = earth


SASUKE was having problems dodging them. do you think his bombs are slow or something? avatar characters can't move or react anywhere near the speed of sasuke, and yet they somehow magically defend from all his attacks and kill him.
Already proved your retarded

yea, makes sense.

Why thank you. It does doesnt it

also, people are overestimating aang. he has not shown some super wind attack or something that could bowl dei off his bird. he uses it in small bursts that can, and often are, dodged or blocked by people with much slower reaction speed then deidara.
LMAO you dont even wacth the show do you?


:pek

I do belive you have my foot up your ass good sir

chequemaite
09-25-2007, 06:20 PM
deidara has an earth element, toph solos.
she has sight but she still hs the vibration vision right?
Oh and flying clay is sent off back at her through earthbend
Katara is only a hinderance here
This observation alone seals the deal for team Avatar. Deidara loses.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 06:22 PM
wind blows all of them back
one breath and katara heals them

earthshine
09-25-2007, 06:23 PM
:pek

I do belive you have my foot up your ass good sir



not a problem, I'll remove it for you.



1: what do you think C3 is? a hand grenade?


2: if she has not shown it, it does not matter. using your logic I could say deidara could blow up the world, then when people say I am wrong, just tell them "just because he has never done iot does not mean he can't"


3: if his speed was so laughable, why did sasuke just barely dodge his attacks, and in fact get hit with one? he even needed to use his wings to escpae a few times. yea, they are obviously slow as hell.

and if toph was as powerful as you think, why use a rock to block that flaming boulder in the last episode? she should ahve been able to just stop it in mid air, and send it right back.

4: yes, I do. I seem to have a better understanding of it then you do, since tardism does not actually increase your knowledge, apparently.

Grandmaster Kane
09-25-2007, 06:29 PM
not a problem, I'll remove it for you.



1: what do you think C3 is? a hand grenade?
C3 isnt a nuke that is for dam sure

2: if she has not shown it, it does not matter. using your logic I could say deidara could blow up the world, then when people say I am wrong, just tell them "just because he has never done iot does not mean he can't"
Regardless she has shown the ability to move TONS o stone and that is more then enough to kill deidara

3: if his speed was so laughable, why did sasuke just barely dodge his attacks, and in fact get hit with one? he even needed to use his wings to escpae a few times. yea, they are obviously slow as hell.
Sasuke is not as uber as your think. He is a walking plot device

and if toph was as powerful as you think, why use a rock to block that flaming boulder in the last episode? she should ahve been able to just stop it in mid air, and send it right back.
If deidara was as good as you say why is he dead?

4: yes, I do. I seem to have a better understanding of it then you do, since tardism does not actually increase your knowledge, apparently.
Wow im being called a tard by someone with a deidara avatar... in a naruto based thread... on a naruto forum... right....


Eeeh gad My other foot as somehow lodged it's self securely between your buttocks :pek

Purgatory
09-25-2007, 06:31 PM
wind blows all of them back
one breath and katara heals them

Correction. One breath, and Katarra dies as well.

earthshine
09-25-2007, 06:47 PM
Eeeh gad My other foot as somehow lodged it's self securely between your buttocks :pek

\

lol, you are trying to argue plot as a a reason for a character's ability.


seems to me like your foot is stuck up your own ass.

Red
09-25-2007, 06:49 PM
Is this a revenge thread?

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 06:50 PM
and your head is stuck up yours
in this season toph lifts huge amounts of earth without much strain, and aang who was just a begginer at the time makes a zoo out greatly sized earth walls,

earthshine
09-25-2007, 06:53 PM
and your head is stuck up yours
in this season toph lifts huge amounts of earth without much strain, and aang who was just a begginer at the time makes a zoo out greatly sized earth walls,



and I suppose I could just call this plot and dismiss it.


seems to work for your side pretty well.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 07:00 PM
Don't make me use the Golden Hammer on you! :vegetant

at the very least toph can sink deidara two miles beneath the earth

Red
09-25-2007, 07:01 PM
You know what? This is pathetic, you greatly overpower the character you want to win and put him against a bunch of kids so as to reassure your ego? Thats the epitome of childishness.

Don't give me the bull shit that it's fair game, you give a character who nukes cities on a daily basis unlimited clay and by extension unlimited power (chakra), who has a flight advantage and put him against people with limited range? Before you say "BUT I GAVE THEM KNOWLEDGE OF THE OPPONENTS POWER AND TOPH CAN SEE!!111 thats just garbage, you give some one unlimited nuking ability and compensate the opposing team with site and knowledge?

all because a naruto character lost in a previous thread.

Stop your fucking fanboyism.

earthshine
09-25-2007, 07:02 PM
Don't make me use the Golden Hammer on you! :vegetant

at the very least toph can sink deidara two miles beneath the earth


YOU'RE BLUFFING


and also, how will toph manage that with dei in the air?








You know what? This is pathetic, you greatly overpower the character you want to win and put him against a bunch of kids so as to reassure your ego? Thats the epitome of childishness.

Don't give me the bull shit that it's fair game, you give a character who nukes cities on a daily basis unlimited clay and by extension unlimited power (chakra), who has a flight advantage and put him against people with limited range? Before you say "BUT I GAVE THEM KNOWLEDGE OF THE OPPONENTS POWER AND TOPH CAN SEE!!111 thats just garbage, you give some one unlimited nuking ability and compensate the opposing team with site and knowledge?

all because a naruto character lost in a previous thread.

Stop your fucking fanboyism.


....lmao.


I give the avatar people all these advantages, and you say I am "overpowering" deidara. he has unlimited clay, not chakra. meaning he can run out of power, just like he did in the sasuke fight. clay is not chakra.


this from the guy who took itachi's speed away in order to allow his character to have a chance against him.

these "kids", in your opinion, can own itachi one on one, so I don't see the problem with a guy who is supposedly weaker then itachi while outnumbering him.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 07:03 PM
if dei gets airborne he's fucked
Aang ftw

@despair
chill, it's easier to win

Ion
09-25-2007, 07:08 PM
Toph is already broken and your giving her sight? She would be even more powerful.Actually, the reason she's considered the most powerful earthbender is because of her blindness, which allows her to better communicate with the earth.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 07:10 PM
I think it means she has vibe vision and normal sight

Red
09-25-2007, 07:11 PM
I give the avatar people all these advantages
Yeah sight and knowledge, they'll help a lot right? while removing aangs avatar ability?

anyhow if this makes you feel better proceed.

earthshine
09-25-2007, 07:11 PM
I think it means she has vibe vision and normal sight



yes, it does. gaining sight would not make her lose the acute sense of touch that allows her to feel the vibrations







Yeah sight and knowledge, they'll help a lot right?

anyhow if this makes you feel better proceed.


yes, it helps a HUGE amount.

one, I removed toph's bighgest weakness, her inability to detect things in the air, and since deidara tends to stay in the air, I figured this would be unfair to toph.


and also, I gave them knowledge of C4, to keep them from getting raped by it because they don't knowe it is coming.


if anything, I gave the avatar people a much better situation then I did deidara.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 07:13 PM
it actually helps alot
knowing that nanites are coming against two earthbenders and a healer is pretty much nullifing them.
and knowing that the bombs are earth things, and toph having vision gives her a get-out-of-solo-rape free card

Kiyoshi
09-25-2007, 07:15 PM
I thought this through. The way I see it all comes down who strikes first. Katara is kind of dead weight/healer. If it was Aang/Katara it would be about even. Toph/Katara... about even. Aang/Toph, formidable opponent. Katara's role, unless near water, would be a ground assault. Toph outshines her against Deidara in this battle. If Deidara can handle Aang/Toph, Katara is likely no problem.

If the Avatar crew gets the first drop then Deidara is ultimately done for. His main hope is to get skyward to negate the threat by Toph and handle Aang first. Sadly, we haven't seen a true fight between Deidara and another sky/long range fighter. The closest was Gaara. Deidara has some hope as his exploding clay would throw Aang off. The clay animals would appear to be Earth Bending. Deidara has maybe once chance to take out Aang with a surprise explosion before he catches on and begins blowing the bombs away.

Failing at this, Deidara's characterization would begin sending the "misses" towards Katara and Toph to see if Aang develops stupid guardian syndrome and leaves himself open to attack trying to save the ground bound two.

G4 Garuda could work. Toph would "see" it is made of clay through vibrations, and might be able to "see"/feel it breaking up into tiny, very tiny pieces. If she isn't that good with vibrations, Aang would probably fly around through it leading to his demise. Possibly the demise of all three.

Same with suicide explosion. Toph/Aang, since Deidara would brag the explosion and forget to bluff, would likely try to either seal Deidara inside a wall of Earth, bury him or shield themselves. So, eh, 50-50"? Well, unless Aang enters the Avatar state and Fire Bends the biggest fire bend ever.

The landmine bombs, useless. Toph can sense them and set them off with ease.

Over all, unless Deidara does it perfectly, this is a curb-stomp. I think many of you are over estimating the avatar crew greatly, but this is still one sided. The only way to make this worse for Deidara is to have them fighting on a volcanic island and add Zula to the match up to spam lightning.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 07:21 PM
toph is that good
she can sense as little as individual ants yards away, and she can detect heart beat. knowing what deidara can do, it's quite easy
plus, if deidara gets airborne, aang solo's this since he can earthbend and airbend.

Ion
09-25-2007, 07:21 PM
I think it means she has vibe vision and normal sightAh okay.

yes, it does. gaining sight would not make her lose the acute sense of touch that allows her to feel the vibrationsWell, I said that because I remember her saying something along the line that her blindness allowed her to communicate with the earth better, since sight only distracts you from truly "listening" to it.

Shoddragon
09-25-2007, 08:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mO2vHtvJDc&mode=related&search=


yup, that is absolutely notihng close to a nuke (1:36).


Please, they are not blocking #18 gtfo. OMFG earthbenders LAWL! they are going to block bombs that take out blocks LOL. c3 mines take this. c2 dragon fucking curbstompingly takes this. in fact, c2 dragon solos.

Graham Aker
09-25-2007, 08:25 PM
you dont throw earth at Earthbenders.

Tash
09-25-2007, 08:31 PM
YOU'RE BLUFFING


and also, how will toph manage that with dei in the air?
Well it's an issue of contraversy in the last episode Toph was nailing airborne projectiles











....lmao.


I give the avatar people all these advantages, and you say I am "overpowering" deidara. he has unlimited clay, not chakra. meaning he can run out of power, just like he did in the sasuke fight. clay is not chakra.


this from the guy who took itachi's speed away in order to allow his character to have a chance against him.

these "kids", in your opinion, can own itachi one on one, so I don't see the problem with a guy who is supposedly weaker then itachi while outnumbering him.

Anyway I have to agree, C4 solos.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 08:49 PM
if they are aware of dei's powers they'll never let deidara get distance from his own bombs

thegoodjae
09-25-2007, 08:56 PM
lol 18 solos. They aren't good enough at airbending to stop it, maybe slow it down, but they all die anyways.

He can make a bomb come right after.

vagnard
09-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Deidara can defeat the 4 nations alone. Any rookie 9 before timeskip can kill Aang, Katara and Toph at the same time.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 09:11 PM
^wow, you've shut me up right there




not
read the op and realize that "sp33dbl1tz!!11!" does not work here

vagnard
09-25-2007, 09:19 PM
^wow, you've shut me up right there




not
read the op and realize that "sp33dbl1tz!!11!" does not work here

What I read to need?. Where the OP stated their speed would be equal?.

Deidara can react faster than Avatar characters can even think.

If Sasuke didn't have time to react to C2 much less guys slow as hell like Aang, Toph and Katara.

Put this shit in your brain. Avatar characters are basically regular humans who can manipulate elements.

Naruto characters are super humans and elemental manipulation is just one of the many things they can do.

Toph can manipulate Deidara's explosive clay....and she wouldn't have even time to start to bend anything because Deidara would blow her ass before she can even raise her hand to bend.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
deidara has never performed any spectacular speed feat. he can't do the stuff your claiming
and saucegay was traped

back your ass up with proof and I might just pay atention
and watch your mouth
there's a new mod in town and I bet he's been achin to find a flamer like you

vagnard
09-25-2007, 09:29 PM
deidara has never performed any spectacular speed feat.

Lol. He evaded Sasuke's sword when he was using shunshin at the beginning of the fight.

And any ninja...even Konohamaru is way faster than any guy in Avatarverse.

he can't do the stuff your claiming
and saucegay was traped

Yes, he can. 1 C2 and bye bye the whole group. One C2 bomb is enough to wipe a huge bunch of a forest or a city block. Toph and cia won't be dodging anything.

http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/00000358/11.jpg

Look the size of the Dragon (that is way bigger than a human) compared to the bomb. The dragon looks like a dwarf. Avatar group won't be dodging shit.

back your ass up with proof and I might just pay atention
and watch your mouth
there's a new mod in town and I bet he's been achin to find a flamer like you

Lol. How I flamed?. If anything you are a troll and you will be the next to be banned so prepare yourself.

Purgatory
09-25-2007, 09:34 PM
Deidara can defeat the 4 nations alone. Any rookie 9 before timeskip can kill Aang, Katara and Toph at the same time.

Even Sakura!?

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 09:34 PM
I'm not the one going all "Put this shit in your brain."

plus, how can aang and toph not bend that bomb back at him? If deidara sets the bomb to close to him he gets hit with it, while aang protects the whole group with wind kaiten
second, that was not a speed feat, deidara had most of the battle planed for years, and had a few good yards between them of headstart.


and saying even konohamaru can beat avatarverse just proved why you aren't one to be taken seriously

Seto Kaiba
09-25-2007, 09:40 PM
I'm really not seeing how they can deal with Deidara, especially with C4 in his arsenal.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 09:49 PM
they are aware of his powers, so they know his bombs are made of earth
He can just bend the bombs back at him, and always keep him in range of his own exlposives

vagnard
09-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Even Sakura!?

Yes. Sakura sucks in terms of Narutoverse. But you must remember that every ninja is super human. They can jump several feets in the air. Sakura could move through the trees faster than any regular human could do. As ninja she has such accuracy with kunais that she could pin Naruto's falling body with a kunai after Oro used the 5 elemental seal on him.

Any regular ninjas could kill avatar characters just with a kunai.

Look Azula's friend Mai. She is practically top tier in Avatarverse and she isn't nothing but a so-so weapon user with nearly regular human reactions. You don't even need elements to pwn a bender in Avatarverse. Much less a ninja who has many times reaction faster than a bender.

I'm not the one going all "Put this shit in your brain."

back your ass up with proof and I might just pay atention
and watch your mouth

Double standard too much?.

plus, how can aang and toph not bend that bomb back at him? If deidara sets the bomb to close to him he gets hit with it, while aang protects the whole group with wind kaiten

They can't bend the bomb because Deidara can kill they before they can even react. Toph will die before she can even bend the bomb in time.

second, that was not a speed feat, deidara had most of the battle planed for years, and had a few good yards between them of headstart.

Lol...how he planned the fight for years if the anything thing in common between Sasuke and Itachi is the sharingan?. From what I remember Itachi doesn't use kusanagi, raitons, snake summons, CS 2 or even shunshin speed like Sasuke does. Deidara always start his fights flying. He just went to the ground to taunt Sasuke because he was pissed off with Sharingan users. In fact his first attack was using the 2 initial birds what he used to travel with Tobi.

Aang and his friend would die with that first attack. Even C2 Dragon wouldn't even necessary.

Anyway...Earth Benders need to be in contact with Earth or near it to bend. Remember how Fire Nation had a whole bunch of Earth Bender masters captured in a metal place. Toph won't be able to bend clay that is way above her flying in the air at a speed she can't even follow. The only moment when she will have the clay close to her will be in the moment of her death.

and saying even konohamaru can beat avatarverse just proved why you aren't one to be taken seriously

I didn't say Konohamaru could beat Avatarverse. Stop putting words in my mouth. I say Konohamaru was faster than any guy in Avatar series...and that's a fact.

Ion
09-25-2007, 10:08 PM
and watch your mouth
there's a new mod in town and I bet he's been achin to find a flamer like youI'd rather it be that I never found flames at all.

vagnard may or may not be flaming, but you are definitely flamebaiting.

Lol. How I flamed?. If anything you are a troll and you will be the next to be banned so prepare yourself.You're both not doing so hot ITT.

Naming someone the "Fourth Liar" isn't exactly playing nice.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 10:09 PM
no, toph does not need to be too near the earth to bend, and even she did, her range is greater than the bomb's can safely detonate without fucking up.
and FYI, not only can toph bend metal, she also bends other shapes of earth like crystals and sludge wich is a melted version of clay.

And put this through your head
NONE, I mean NONE of deidara's bombs have shown to be fast enough for Aang to bend
The speedsters he sends against kakashi? Toph can blow those up miles away, she has a processing rate even faster than most narutoverse characters, ground vibrations take alot longer than light to reach her, but she can still predict movements and device strategies to counter them.
with her sight, dei is her bitch

Konohamaru faster than any guy in the avatarverse?.... right.....
Someone warn me when uchihatard is serious
cause right now you're in my ignore list

Edit: I apologize for any harrassement on m part

He still aint caming out of my ignore list

ViЯaL
09-25-2007, 10:49 PM
Hey Fourth, I really think saying "Katsu" Would go faster than moving your hand to counter and launch a bomb back into the air waiting for it to hit the attacker.

Its 1 Second
Vs
At least 5 Seconds+ depending on how high deidara is

C4 rapes. Toph Cant feel Vibrations through the air, Aang wont see them, Katara cant heal because she would get hit around the same time that Aang and Toph would. And C4 blows up on contact too :arg

And as Mr. Despair said: Its huuge Rape in favor of Deidara. Unlimited Clay may mean unlimited chakra if Deidara loads it like how Gaara loads his sand.

Henge and Kawarmi would be so broken Its probably not worth metioning in this fight. ( Its A basic academy skill, and an S-Rank should know it. Dont say he doesnt know it because its not shown. That would be like saying he doesnt produce bodily waste :LOS)

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 10:54 PM
Toph has her vision on this fight and is aware of deidara's power's
Will she even let any clay get out? I mean she could just trap deidara himself in his own bird!

Giovanni Rild
09-25-2007, 10:55 PM
C4 Garuda and the microscopic bombs should do the Avatar team in.

What he said.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 10:58 PM
No, Rild, I need your help!:yell

Look, avatar character knowing deidara's powers will just bend the HUGE GARUDA of deidara to keep him in range! deidara wont blow up his bombs 'cause they'll hit him too!

Giovanni Rild
09-25-2007, 11:01 PM
No, Rild, I need your help!:yell

Look, avatar character knowing deidara's powers will just bend the HUGE GARUDA of deidara to keep him in range! deidara wont blow up his bombs 'cause they'll hit him too!

Toph can't bend what she can't see.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 11:02 PM
but OP says she has sight!

Giovanni Rild
09-25-2007, 11:05 PM
but OP says she has sight!

Even with sight, she can't see microscopic bombs

ViЯaL
09-25-2007, 11:08 PM
No, Rild, I need your help!:yell

Look, avatar character knowing deidara's powers will just bend the HUGE GARUDA of deidara to keep him in range! deidara wont blow up his bombs 'cause they'll hit him too!

Saying Katsu is faster than Hand Movements and waiting on a boulder to hit. Deidara blows them up, and C4 if needed. Toph cant read earth through air, she reads it through vibrations from the earth. plus its microscopic and therefore harder to detect even with vibrations.

Banhammer
09-25-2007, 11:12 PM
but they are aware of his abilities! When they see the bigass garuda they'll know what's coming and bend it back to him, and deidara does not blow up his bombs that fast, he needs for them to reach a certain distance before he blows them up, if avatar characters do not allow that distance they can win.
plus, knowing what's coming, aang can use the wind kaiten to shield himself and his group from the nanites

thegoodjae
09-25-2007, 11:39 PM
It doesn't matter if they are aware. They still die. If I was aware I would still die.

Steven Pinhead
09-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Team Avatar takes out anything but C4 microbombs

thegoodjae
09-26-2007, 12:01 AM
18 is too big to bend back. They might be able to slow it down, but while doing that, another bomb can come killing them. They can only bend one thing at a time. You see, you should actually think of these things.

Banhammer
09-26-2007, 12:03 AM
even those aang can just blow away

thegoodjae
09-26-2007, 12:05 AM
lol Yes, he can some how blow away homing missiles that can come from whenever , whereever as well as them being able to denate whenever they want and they can come from any direction. Smart one.

vagnard
09-26-2007, 01:14 AM
no, toph does not need to be too near the earth to bend, and even she did, her range is greater than the bomb's can safely detonate without fucking up.
and FYI, not only can toph bend metal, she also bends other shapes of earth like crystals and sludge wich is a melted version of clay.

Yes. She need. Show me a proof of her bending earth far away from her reach or it didn't happened. (I mean that she isn't touching the earth with her feet). It's very different have long range attacks that having the ability to control earth very far away (Deidara flies several meters above the ground)

And put this through your head
NONE, I mean NONE of deidara's bombs have shown to be fast enough for Aang to bend

Put this through your head. If a bomb is fast enough to catch or even come close to Sasuke then it's fast enough to wipe Aang's group before they could even realize.

The speedsters he sends against kakashi? Toph can blow those up miles away, she has a processing rate even faster than most narutoverse characters, ground vibrations take alot longer than light to reach her, but she can still predict movements and device strategies to counter them.
with her sight, dei is her bitch

Lol. Filler. He didn't send a bomb against Kakashi. In the manga he was out of clay just after he send a bomb to Naruto that was stopped by Kakashi's kunai (that was a C1). That bomb was strong enough to hurt Kyuubi Naruto....so Aang and his group would be dead. Toph can just predict movements through earth movements....it's a shame Deidara flies and he doesn't move through earth...so Toph can't predict shit against him. Even if she could predict her body doesn't have the speed to evade....just like Sasuke with the sharingan couldn't evade Rock Lee because his superior speed.

Konohamaru faster than any guy in the avatarverse?.... right.....
Someone warn me when uchihatard is serious
cause right now you're in my ignore list

It's funny...this guy calls me Uchihatard and then he says I'm the one who is flaming. Oh right....

Please then tell me....who is faster than Konohamaru in Avatarverse please?....Mai?...Azula?....they never showed the level of speed to move through the trees in a forests like ninjas do all day.

Edit: I apologize for any harrassement on m part

He still aint caming out of my ignore list

Don't apologize....stop flaming.

I'm glad I'm in your ignore list....so I can't have endure your ignorance anymore.

vagnard
09-26-2007, 01:17 AM
but they are aware of his abilities!

Lol. Aren't you tired that everyone even Rild (an avatarverse fan) accept there is no hope for avatar characters?.

uncanny_sama
09-26-2007, 06:30 AM
c4 garuda its over