View Full Version : Rob Lucci vs. Quicksilver
616 Quicksilver
vs.
CP9's Rob Lucci (One Piece)
Heartgobbler
09-13-2007, 08:50 AM
I have to go with Quicksilver for that. Rob Lucci is superfast but not that fast.
Sure, he only needs one hit to kill Quicksilver. But I don't think he will get that chance.
Quicksilver on the other hand needs some plan to hurt Lucci. But he had fought tough enemies before. (I remember some picture in the ownage thread, showing Ultimate Quicksilver killing a super-fast villain. He simply grabbed her and kept building up speed until the vibration caused by friction with air blew her to bits.
Orion
09-13-2007, 08:55 AM
Ultimate quicksilver is dozens if not more times faster then regular quicksilver,rob could hit quicksilver eventually and one hit is probably all its going to take.
Darklyre
09-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Regular Quicksilver was moving at 225 mph, and ~650 mph with Isotope E. Ultimate Quicksilver breaks Mach 10 easily.
Havoc
09-13-2007, 12:46 PM
616 Quicksilver's speed is more akin to Zoom now anyway.
Limit_Tester
09-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Rob Lucci in an utter curbstomp. Lucci is far faster, stronger, more durable, and even more intelligent. There really isn't a single category I can think of in which Quicksilver is even close to Lucci.
Havoc
09-13-2007, 01:33 PM
Rob Lucci in an utter curbstomp. Lucci is far faster, stronger, more durable, and even more intelligent. There really isn't a single category I can think of in which Quicksilver is even close to Lucci.
I can't really comment about Lucci, since I don't read OP, but are you up to date with Quicksilver?
He now has chronokinesis
I can't really comment about Lucci, since I don't read OP, but are you up to date with Quicksilver?
He now has chronokinesis
He has a super speed too. Maybe as fast as Gai or Lee gated or more.
He could make his skin super hard like Cage.
He can stay in the air by kicking the air really fast.
He has enough physical power to K.O. Spidey in a couple punches, or with his super attack punch.
His kicks slice air.
He's a smart fighter.
But still, i think Quicksilver would put up a hell of a fight.
Suzumebachi
09-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Maybe as fast as Gai or Lee gated or more.
Both Lucci and Quicksilver are far far faster than Gai and Lee.
neodragzero
09-13-2007, 02:53 PM
616 Quicksilver's speed is more akin to Zoom now anyway.
Till he pretty much loses it. Along with his life just recently. Rob Lucci kicks over Quicksilver's corpse...
And really, don't compare him to Zoom. Zoom easily travels through time while Quicksilver isn't exactly going to win a fight against Lucci with what he had.
Lucci can't match Mach 10.
Suzumebachi
09-13-2007, 03:00 PM
Lucci can't match Mach 10.
Prove it .
Prove it .
He can't. Enough for that.
Suzumebachi
09-13-2007, 03:04 PM
My, how typical of you.
Havoc
09-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Till he pretty much loses it. Along with his life just recently. Rob Lucci kicks over Quicksilver's corpse...
And really, don't compare him to Zoom. Zoom easily travels through time while Quicksilver isn't exactly going to win a fight against Lucci with what he had.
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
neodragzero
09-13-2007, 03:25 PM
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Recent issue of X-Factor, it looks like Quicksilver died in it. Zoom just seems a lot more mobile with his time traveling. Quicksilver's is kind of awkward in comparison.
Havoc
09-13-2007, 03:39 PM
Zoom can't time travel like QS can. Zoom slows time down around him, while QS can actually travel through time.
Limit_Tester
09-13-2007, 04:00 PM
I can't really comment about Lucci, since I don't read OP, but are you up to date with Quicksilver?
He now has chronokinesis
I don't think it would help too much. Even if this is Isotope E Quicksilver, Lucci is still ridiculously faster than him.
@The White Fang
He's not mach 10. He can travel at about ten times that speed.
Brain Guy
09-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Lucci is mach 100!?
Fuujin
09-13-2007, 04:52 PM
I don't think it would help too much. Even if this is Isotope E Quicksilver, Lucci is still ridiculously faster than him.
@The White Fang
He's not mach 10. He can travel at about ten times that speed.
Lies!
Lucci is mach 100!?
Don't believe the lies :notrust
Brain Guy
09-13-2007, 04:58 PM
What I can't figure is how he hasn't left us. That's like 3 times the escape velocity of the Earth!
EDIT: He's not a flyer, right? So the fastest he can go is maybe in the mach 33-34 range.
Where's Reznor when you need him? >_>
Fuujin
09-13-2007, 05:13 PM
What I can't figure is how he hasn't left us. That's like 3 times the escape velocity of the Earth!
EDIT: He's not a flyer, right? So the fastest he can go is maybe in the mach 33-34 range.
Where's Reznor when you need him? >_>
Please note LT is basing Lucci's speed on the power levels of the CP9 crew and the cannons used in OP to make Zoro look cool. Not on hard science/common sense.
neodragzero
09-13-2007, 06:10 PM
Zoom can't time travel like QS can. Zoom slows time down around him, while QS can actually travel through time.
Zoom is the one that can avoid getting his beat bashed on a merry go round. I'm sure that kind of ride is a lot slower than Lucchi.:amuse Lucchi>merry go round>Quicksilver...
Limit_Tester
09-13-2007, 06:12 PM
What I can't figure is how he hasn't left us. That's like 3 times the escape velocity of the Earth!
EDIT: He's not a flyer, right? So the fastest he can go is maybe in the mach 33-34 range.
Where's Reznor when you need him? >_>
http://forums.narutofan.com:80/showthread.php?t=256628
Endless Mike
09-13-2007, 06:21 PM
If it's Pre - House of M Quicksilver he probably loses, but if it's the one with the time travelling abilities, he could just go and kill Lucci's parents before he was born.
neodragzero
09-13-2007, 06:31 PM
If it's Pre - House of M Quicksilver he probably loses, but if it's the one with the time travelling abilities, he could just go and kill Lucci's parents before he was born.
Or like how he stopped the construction of the merry go round that leads to his death. Oh wait...:amuse Lucci rips his head off before he knows what hit him.
I believe thats called PIS.
Suzumebachi
09-13-2007, 06:52 PM
Please note LT is basing Lucci's speed on the power levels of the CP9 crew and the cannons used in OP to make Zoro look cool. Not on hard science/common sense.
Said Fuujin. :lmao
Gunners
09-13-2007, 06:56 PM
How would quicksilver go back in time and kill Lucci's parents if they are in a neutral verse, not only that he wouldn't know who Lucci's parents.
That being said, I don't really know who will win this match, I haven't seen enough of Quicksilvers feats.
Wesker
09-13-2007, 07:46 PM
Wait did someone just say Lucci can go mach 100?
Said Fuujin. :lmao
Said Suzumebachi, killer of Dragonball.
Darklyre
09-13-2007, 09:15 PM
My god, the lack of canon in this thread shames me.
QUICKSILVER CANNOT TRAVEL BACKWARDS THROUGH TIME. He can only make jumps into the future, and shortly after is pulled back into the present. In terms of actual physical speed, he has normal human speed. Even his chronokinesis doesn't help his speed, since unlike Zoom he doesn't slow down time, he literally tunnels through it. This gives him Madrox-like abilities (he can pop future selves out of nowhere) but he can't actually slow down time like Zoom can. Even so, this is all moot, since 616 Quicksilver has lost his abilities due to having the Terrigen crystals yanked out of him. Rictor is now the only one with Terrigen implants.
ZOOM CAN TRAVEL BACKWARDS THROUGH TIME. When Iris, Bart's grandmother, traveled back in time to warn him of his upcoming death, she asked Zoom to help her. Where did she meet him? THE FALL OF ROME.
As for how fast Ultimate Quicksilver moves? Think about this: Hurricane was able to move at Mach 10 with no ill effects. Quicksilver moves fast enough to disintegrate an actual speedster via friction with the air. That's easily in the Mach 15+ range. He's so fast that he was once laying on the ground with multiple bullets incoming towards him, and next panel he was already gone, before the bullets even moved.
Havoc
09-14-2007, 01:08 AM
[My god, the lack of canon in this thread shames me.
QUICKSILVER CANNOT TRAVEL BACKWARDS THROUGH TIME. He can only make jumps into the future, and shortly after is pulled back into the present. In terms of actual physical speed, he has normal human speed. Even his chronokinesis doesn't help his speed, since unlike Zoom he doesn't slow down time, he literally tunnels through it. This gives him Madrox-like abilities (he can pop future selves out of nowhere) but he can't actually slow down time like Zoom can. Even so, this is all moot, since 616 Quicksilver has lost his abilities due to having the Terrigen crystals yanked out of him. Rictor is now the only one with Terrigen implants.
ZOOM CAN TRAVEL BACKWARDS THROUGH TIME. When Iris, Bart's grandmother, traveled back in time to warn him of his upcoming death, she asked Zoom to help her. Where did she meet him? THE FALL OF ROME.
No, QS lost his ability to give others powers, he can still jump into the future. And he is similar to Zoom, like I said. It isn't exactly the same, but he uses time travel to simulate speed. In Son of M #4 he says he can jump in time walk a couple yards, then return to the exact same time he left, which basically gives him instantaneous movement. In addition to that he can also make "time clones".
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/SonofM05page04.jpg
Zoom shouldn't have been able to travel back in time. Yes we see him back in Rome, but we do not know how he got there, we've never seen him travel back in time unaided before.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7814/flashv2200page09bc6.jpg
Azure Flame Kite
09-14-2007, 01:21 AM
http://forums.narutofan.com:80/showthread.php?t=256628
I was pretty impressed with that until I found it was made by you, you realize going at that speed luffy would basically incinerate
The Faint Smile
09-14-2007, 01:28 AM
But he's super durable rubber!
Guy Gardner
09-14-2007, 01:34 AM
Everyone's getting Quicksilver's power wrong.
It's not chronokinesis. It's not like Zoom. Zoom is literally stuck in his own little time-field that he can alter at will.
Quicksilver deals with vibrating his molecules faster, so that he can appear in the future (And not the past). Through this, he can create dozens of dupes, and seemingly appear and disappear at will.
But.
He perceives time as a regular human. He's not faster than anyone, which is why he won't win a battle against any real competent speedster anymore.
Azure Flame Kite
09-14-2007, 01:35 AM
She said he goes at like 20k miles per second at 4.4 miles per second the friction is 25k C so if u wanna tell me that luffy's rubber is so durable as to take a punch from some1 who is temperature wise at 18.75 the temperature of the sun I would really like to hear your comment
The Faint Smile
09-14-2007, 01:37 AM
sarcasm yo
Edit-yeah maybe I should have used a smiley or something
Azure Flame Kite
09-14-2007, 01:39 AM
sorry somewat difficult to detect sarcasm over the internet unless u do it THE FOURTHNIN WAY!!!
Havoc
09-14-2007, 01:46 AM
Everyone's getting Quicksilver's power wrong.
It's not chronokinesis. It's not like Zoom. Zoom is literally stuck in his own little time-field that he can alter at will.
Quicksilver deals with vibrating his molecules faster, so that he can appear in the future (And not the past). Through this, he can create dozens of dupes, and seemingly appear and disappear at will.
But.
He perceives time as a regular human. He's not faster than anyone, which is why he won't win a battle against any real competent speedster anymore.
Did you not see my post?
Guy Gardner
09-14-2007, 01:48 AM
Did you not see my post?
Actually, I left my computer to cook up a midnight snack. Whoops.
Wait what??? I don't remember Quicksilver having Chronokinesis? i thought he can only go future and not back.
ALSO, how did Zoom get brought up? First off, Zoom would destroy Quicksilver, also Zoom is kinda in his own "time zone" like thingy. I dunno how to explain it, but it's like he manipulates (i dunno if its the right word) his own time how he wants.
Havoc
09-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Wait what??? I don't remember Quicksilver having Chronokinesis? i thought he can only go future and not back.
ALSO, how did Zoom get brought up? First off, Zoom would destroy Quicksilver, also Zoom is kinda in his own "time zone" like thingy. I dunno how to explain it, but it's like he manipulates (i dunno if its the right word) his own time how he wants.
I posted the scan where it describes Zooms powers, he is in his own timeline.
Havoc
09-14-2007, 01:54 AM
Read this post guys.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10553269&postcount=33
Read this post guys.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10553269&postcount=33
my fault. i was on my sidekick so i couldnt open spoilers.
Limit_Tester
09-14-2007, 03:40 AM
She said he goes at like 20k miles per second at 4.4 miles per second the friction is 25k C so if u wanna tell me that luffy's rubber is so durable as to take a punch from some1 who is temperature wise at 18.75 the temperature of the sun I would really like to hear your comment
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/DavidFriedman.shtml
Or I could just say that all heroes automatically have the durability necessary to travel at the speed they can.
P.S.
I particularly liked this comment:
"I was pretty impressed with that until I found it was made by you, you realize going at that speed luffy would basically incinerate"
Looks like I'm getting a fanbase. My parents would be so proud of me.
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