View Full Version : Ellen Ripley vs. T-1000
blacklusterseph004
09-11-2007, 06:38 PM
Ellen Ripley, the woman who solos the xenomorphs from Aliens, vs. the T-1000, the liquid alloy terminator that persued John Connor in Terminator 2. This is basically a survival contest. Ellen knows that the T-1000 is after her, but she's not sure where it is. She only has a flamethrower. Can she figure out how to destroy the T-1000 and survive? The fight takes place on the abandoned Battlestar Gallactica.
Banhammer
09-11-2007, 06:40 PM
If she know sshe has a shot, and all she gets is a flamethrower, i thik that will be a pretty clear clue of what she needs to do
Is this cloned ripley with acid blood and added strength and what not
blacklusterseph004
09-11-2007, 07:37 PM
^No, this is Alien 2 Ripley, the one who hasn't become a host yet.
Gaelek_13
09-11-2007, 07:50 PM
Ripley gets cut down.
K I S K E
09-11-2007, 07:57 PM
Flame Thrower wont even hurt him, it'll just slow him down. Remember the big ass explosion? o_O
Jackal
09-11-2007, 07:58 PM
dead body mans right, shell die instantly.
Zack_Strife
09-11-2007, 08:02 PM
I think Ripley could do it. The T-1000 didn't display any spectacular levels of cunning in T2, certainly not anymore than the original Alien. His best trick was turning into the floor and he seems to have that terrible flaw all Terminators have, where by they walk slowly towards their targets at key moments.
If the flamethrower can slow him down then conceivably all Ripley has to do is stay away from his blades and blow his ass out an airlock.
blacklusterseph004
09-11-2007, 08:50 PM
Indeed, the flamethrower is not enough. I thought it might be interesting to discuss though if Ripley was able to figure out some way to kill/dispose of him before he killed her, considering her resourcefulness and relative cool under pressure situations.
Fuujin
09-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I think Ripley could do it. The T-1000 didn't display any spectacular levels of cunning in T2, certainly not anymore than the original Alien. His best trick was turning into the floor and he seems to have that terrible flaw all Terminators have, where by they walk slowly towards their targets at key moments.
If the flamethrower can slow him down then conceivably all Ripley has to do is stay away from his blades and blow his ass out an airlock.
I'm assuming PIS is off?
This means Ripley can probably blow him out of the air lock 2/10, in other scenarios she gets stabbed, sliced etc.
blacklusterseph004
09-13-2007, 06:57 AM
Airlock is one option, but it's possible she can devise something else using what is already on the Galactica. Don't forget that Ripley is actually fully qualified and capable of operating a ridiculously large assortment of complex machinery and computer systems. Learning to use stuff for the first time doesn't take her long either.
Fuujin
09-13-2007, 12:08 PM
Yeah but the T1000 is so much faster than the aliens she's used to dealing with it's ridiculous. Remember he was keeping up with a speeding car (maybe 40/50mph)
Zack_Strife
09-13-2007, 12:11 PM
Can Galactica self destruct? That would be another option. Also, can Ripley re-arm herself? I know she starts with the flame thrower but could she refuel it or re-arm with more weaponry? As an aside, I wouldn't be entirely certain about the flamethrowers ineffectiveness against the T-1000. Assuming it's fuel by napalm like the most modern flamethrowers then it'll hit temperatures of between 800 and 1200 degrees celsius and it will apparently stick to him and keep burning.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
The T-1000 was quite devastatingly destroyed by being dropped into a vat of something at a steel works, if it was Iron then it melts at 1500 degrees Celsius.
Now, I know 1200 /= 1500 but we can't be certain that 1500 degrees is the bare minimum needed to destroy him.
blacklusterseph004
09-13-2007, 12:48 PM
Can Galactica self destruct? That would be another option. Also, can Ripley re-arm herself? I know she starts with the flame thrower but could she refuel it or re-arm with more weaponry?The idea is that her resourcefulness and technical knowledge is an asset, so she would be able to use absolutely anything on Galactica, she just has to figure out how. For the purpose of this thread, she won't blow up the ship.
Zack_Strife
09-13-2007, 03:05 PM
Ok, apart from blowing Galactica up there's the possibility of utilising the Viper's weaponry or trapping him in the reactor or something. The problem is we've only ever seen the effects of extreme temperatures on the T-1000, never massive amounts of kinetic energy or radiation.
I'd still rate Ripley's chances pretty highly tbh, the T-1000 has got a definite speed advantage but depending on how effective the flamethrower is then that speed might amount to nothing. If the flamethrower is enough to just keep him at bay then that's all Ripley needs to back off, seal a hatch and buy time. If she then re-arms then she's in with a good chance, projectile weapons can't kill the T-1000 but they can certainly put him on his ass. It's all just stalling until an airlock presents itself.
Of course if the T-1000 has the brains to re-arm then I'd say Ripley is fucked, she's never been in an actual gunfight, although how likely is it that he'll re-arm himself? In all of T2 he used the gun he stole from the cop and a single MP5K with something like two clips when he could have gotten hold of a lot more.
The last Dalek
09-13-2007, 06:48 PM
Couldnt the T-1000 just turn into the floor wait for Ripley to come by and then gut her from behind.
Zack_Strife
09-13-2007, 07:10 PM
You're assuming Ripley is just walking around at her leisure. According the OP she knows it's after her so she must have a fair idea of what it is, which to me would result in her firing the flamethrower through every room in the same manner she advanced into the Alien nest.
The last Dalek
09-14-2007, 07:43 AM
The flame probebly wouldnt do anny damage and theres garantee that it could force it out of hiding.
blacklusterseph004
09-14-2007, 08:52 AM
The T-1000 is in seek and destroy mode, so for the sake of this battle, it won't hide and wait. It will attempt to sneak up on her though, if the opportunity presents itself.
Zack_Strife
09-15-2007, 07:53 PM
The flame probebly wouldnt do anny damage and theres garantee that it could force it out of hiding.
We can't be certain of that, we don't know the exact tolerances of a T-1000 to heat. Napalm, which I'm assuming she's running the flamethrower on, can burn at 1200 degrees while the molten (I think) iron the T-1000 dropped into was at least 1500 degrees. So all we know is that it dies at 1500 degrees, we don't know if that's the lower limit or not.
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