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Keollyn
08-29-2007, 01:14 AM
Round Two, Match Twelve.

Standard match rules

PIS off
CIS on (In Character)
Bloodlust off. Albeit, characters are out to win.
No ring outs
Knock out or fatality
Speed limit raised to mach 5.




Team Aldric
Gain Esperanza (Bastard!!)
Franky (One Piece)
Jio (no Satan form/666 Satan)
Abigail without Omega Armor (Bastard!!)
Grunbeld (Berserk)

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Team Tuxx
1. Alita (Battle Angel)
2. Zelgadis (Slayers)
3. Kyosuke (Soultaker) No warping.
4. Ryoko (Tenchi-OVA) (*One Gems, anime showing only)
5. Youzen (Houshin Engi)

Gain Esperanza vs Youzen

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Franky vs Alita

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Jio vs Kyosuke

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Abigail vs Zelgadis

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Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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I'll keep the rules and regulations simple.


Bold the name of the person you know is the winner and leave a commentary.
Commentary is now mandatory. Any vote without a commentary will be ignored. Commentary do not need to be life stories, but they do need to be done.
If you can't think of a winner, mainly because you don't know enough of the person, you can wait till the owners of the team provide info and feats, and/or their argument, before you supply yours.
This brings us to the team owners. They can cast a vote also, but if they do so, they need to bring firm reason as to why they think so. Unlike normal voters, they are subject to biased voting.
With that said, no bribing the members. If you're caught doing so, your team is automatically out.

Ion
08-29-2007, 09:03 AM
Abigail vs Zelgadis

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I'm undecided for now.

Abigail shouldn't be able to harm Zelgadis with any physical attacks, but Abigail's specialty is in spirit attacks anyway.

Zelgadis uses a wide array of magic, but just how powerful is it, and what are the different ranges of his spells?

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Aldric
08-29-2007, 09:06 AM
Gain Esperanza vs Youzen

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Well apparently Youzen can fly and spam nuke like AoE attacks so if he doesn't break the power curve I suppose Gain doesn't stand much of a chance.

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Franky vs Alita

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Ha, awesome. Battle of the cyborgs between two of my favorite characters. Anyway I don't think Franky has much of a chance. Gally is simply in another league when it comes to speed, power and skills. Franky is merely a brawler, while Gally is a skilled martial artist having mastered Panzer Kunst. She'd simply read Franky's movements and counter his attacks with a combo ending up with Hertz Haeon, frying the shipwright's brain. Gally wins.

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Jio vs Kyosuke

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No idea who Kyosuke is and what he can do.

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Abigail vs Zelgadis

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Since Zelgadis most powerful spell wouldn't work on Abigail, as Abi is a human and not a spiritual being I don't see him giving too much trouble to the Prophet of the Netherworld. Abigail's durability is impressive even for Bastard!! standards, which speaks volume, and he has deadly spells he can use almost instantaneously.

As always the Heretic/Thor combo is a given, even if Zelgadis can repell cannonballs he would certainly be hurt by a light beam strong enough to pierce through Dark Schneider's harder than steel skin. Abigails tentacles would certainly hurt Zelgadis as well as they can effortlessly destroy thick steel while protecting their master from Zelgadis lightning spells and physical attacks.

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Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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Don't know Ryoko.

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Tuxx
08-29-2007, 05:09 PM
School isn't to fun. Hardly time to post ><

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Franky vs Alita

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Pretty much agree with Aldric. I should note I'm choose her Imaginos from BA and not from LO. Accelerator isn't OP >< :wink
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Abigail vs Zelgadis

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Well...this is pre-omega right? I can't say for 100% if Zel could down him really. I mean if he could stand up to Arshes lightning then his lightning spells would be useless too. But what about ice spells cold even to shatter? Zel could probably take a few beatings from him at best. Better question would be if Zel's Ra-Tilt could hurt him... If not...Abigail could probably take this.
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Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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Who was Grunbeld again? Think Ryoko's beam sword hurt him? Or her blasts.

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I did some feats for Youzen if you want to see. It's not really complete though. >< To much work. qq I have to do the whole series on nearly everyone feat if I wanted to make it complete. Youzen can basically use all their abilities see. ><


http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10042179&postcount=317
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10042187&postcount=318
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10042744&postcount=319
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10042801&postcount=320

For Kyosuke...well he can try watch some Soultaker on youtube. >< But some stuff he can do...

Class 50-100...
Spacial manipulation immobilization (he bends space to immobilizes people/objects on a cross). High regeneration (though for this tounry...if it's not allowed, this can be nulled). Energy projection (lightning breakers, albeit their names no where means actually lightning. Extreme high speed beams fired from his arms, can even fire double and even at H2h range). Mental Resistance (From mind altering affects and illusions, can break out of them after some time and become immune afterwards). Teleportation (either via ultra high speeds through matter or just outright teleportation...one of these two). Has a Beam saber. Can survive in vaccum. Survive being nuked by a satellite beam in human form.. Liquid helium being poured on him barely fazes him, only slowed him while in human form, he shugs it off very shortly. Can withstand lava even in human form.

He can do local (?) or some form or low level reality warping through his sorrows and from other peoples sorrows as well. Though that's ability is disable for tourny. ><

Aldric
08-29-2007, 05:18 PM
This is "human" Abigail, meaning he has access to everything he has demonstrated in the manga save the Omega Armor.

And yeah Abigail like all the characters in Bastard!! has a spirit so Ra Tilt could definitely take him down. However the invocation seems to be rather lengthy.

What are Zelgadis most powerful spells and their invocations? This is the key to this matchup IMO.

Tuxx
08-29-2007, 05:40 PM
Zel most powerful in the spirit line is the Ra-Tilt. But have to remember...they don't have to chant in Slayers...chanting only usually help it make it stronger...or for better concentration but it is not necessary.

Some of the other spells Zel can...
Black
Dynast Bras
Dynast Breath
Gaav Flare

Air
Bom Di Wind
Damu Bras
Digger Bolt
Diem Wing

Earth
Behfis Bring
Dug Haut
Gray Bomb
Vlave Howl

Fire
Bom Spreed
Burst Flare
Fireball
Flare Arrow

Spirit
Astral Break
Astral Vine
Blam Blazer
Elmekia Lance
Elmekia Flame
Goz Vrow
Ra-Tilt

And of course the basic stuff like ray wing, shadow snap, basic healing, sleeping spell...and stuff he can do.

I think that's most of it...missing a few I think...but those are the important ones. Yeah...basically if Ra-Tilt could hurt Abigail to an extend...then maybe. If not don't think any of the other spells could match it's power. Unless Abigail got some weakness to some elements which I doubt. ><

Ion
08-29-2007, 09:19 PM
But how powerful are they actually?

We can't accurately gauge the outcome unless we at least know that much.

Taleran
08-29-2007, 09:20 PM
Grunbeld is this guy

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/taleran/Berserk%20Spreads/Vol%2026/Berserkv26c223p157copy.jpg

King Dead
08-29-2007, 09:34 PM
What the fuck kind of male character is named "Abigail"

I predict he gets curbstomped

Aldric
08-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Abigail:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4661/bas06107ga6.jpg

Last time I checked feather fans weren't part of his arsenal.

King Dead
08-29-2007, 09:47 PM
Koumei is a thinker, not a fighter

nice chin though

Aldric
08-29-2007, 09:55 PM
Not bishonen enough for your delicate taste maybe?

Ion
08-29-2007, 10:00 PM
You were basing the outcome of a fight on a character's name?.....

Taleran
08-29-2007, 10:03 PM
you haven't known Dead enough

King Dead
08-29-2007, 10:24 PM
Not bishonen enough for your delicate taste maybe?Hey LION-O you better call the Thundercats for help because you're gonna get RAWKED

:suzuhiko

Suzumebachi
08-29-2007, 11:23 PM
But how powerful are they actually?

We can't accurately gauge the outcome unless we at least know that much.

Ra Tilt is his most powerful spell, its been compared to a Dragon Slave.

Apparently Zelgadis' skin is as strong as stone, which is nothing Abigail would have trouble with.

Cannonballs bounce off of him. He also has various barrier spells.

Tuxx
08-29-2007, 11:53 PM
But how powerful are they actually?

We can't accurately gauge the outcome unless we at least know that much.

None of them matches the Dragon Slave in power or output thats for sure. Asides from Ra-Tilt, which is equal to the Dragon Slave...only affects the astral side though. Zel's Ra-Tilt is at least strong enough to destroy regular Mazoku.

Dug Haut spikes are strong enough to pierce lesser demons, impale a falling large boulder and stop them in their tracks.

Bom Di Wind pressure strong enough to blow entire buildings and large structures apart.

Vlave Howl can draw forth large amounts of lava from the ground and encase the opponent then it cools off becoming harden.

Dynast Breath is cold and strong enough to freeze and hold Seigrama, a Mazoku who got extra power from Gaav.



Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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Well...Ryoko does have many advantages over Grunbeld...flight, teleportation, energy beam blasts and sabers, forcefields, duplication, phasing, telekinesis, manipulating matter via merging, creating shadow clones, and summoning *demon spirits.

*Albeit she needs two gems to actually control them...so with one gem she can only summon it but can control it. Otherwise it would attack randomly at anyone.

Think her sword would just bypass through his armor and all? ^^ Even in Grunbeld dragon form...I think Ryoko is to fast for him.
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Suzumebachi
08-29-2007, 11:58 PM
Zel's Ra-Tilt is at least strong enough to destroy regular Mazoku.

At least? Its overkill.


Would a Shadow Snap spell work here? Its where he pierces a sword into the enemy's shadow, and it holds them in place from the Astral side.

Aldric
08-30-2007, 12:02 AM
Cannonballs bounce off of him. He also has various barrier spells.

Abigail has spells that hurt a creature who shrugged off a nuke.

Suzumebachi
08-30-2007, 12:04 AM
Abigail has spells that hurt a creature who shrugged off a nuke.

Then that should be breaking the power limit.

Aldric
08-30-2007, 12:07 AM
Not really. He still can't destroy a city block in one shot.

Suzumebachi
08-30-2007, 12:08 AM
If Ragna Blade is banned, that should probably be banned, since Ragna Blade can't destroy a city block either.

Aldric
08-30-2007, 12:11 AM
I don't see why. Forbidden for ex is a spell that summons evil spirits that eat away at the target physical and astral bodies. Or if you remove it do the same for Ra Tilt.

What are the effects of Ra Tilt on a human btw? From what I've read it seems to be a spell specifically designed to kill astral creatures.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 12:21 AM
Ra Tilt does nothing to a human. Iirc

But some of the astral/spirit spells can do sometimes do physical and astral damage well as soul/mind. Like...usually knocks a person unconscious or can destroy a normal person's spirit.

lambda
08-30-2007, 04:19 AM
huh Tuxx, not to be a killjoy or anything but both Youzen and Ryoko(1 gem) are over the city block limit. Ryoko can charges up her blasts as long as she wants and Youzen is.. Youzen.

Unless you gave them restriction I missed, off course.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 04:33 AM
Youzen...restricted to just normal Paopei. ^^ No super ones. Would it still be okay? :P

Ryoko...well this is just anime showing, so I can only use feats base on anime. But that's should be enough. :wink I think...

lambda
08-30-2007, 05:05 AM
^Anime Ryoko, not OAV? That's much better.

About Youzen, it's still kinda iffy. The man has met so many people that could take out a city by themselves, like Nataku or Buchuu, and he's smart enough that he'd use their paopei better than many of them. I seriously think he's overkill.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 05:31 AM
^Anime Ryoko, not OAV? That's much better.

About Youzen, it's still kinda iffy. The man has met so many people that could take out a city by themselves, like Nataku or Buchuu, and he's smart enough that he'd use their paopei better than many of them. I seriously think he's overkill.

No...I mean anime OVA's showing ^^. It's not that overpowered. :P

Aww but that's the beauty of it. Youzen is a genius beyond genius. With so many Paopei and people to transform almost no weakness. ^^ Though I can't say about his speed...

Cthulhu-versailles
08-30-2007, 05:40 AM
Franky vs Alita
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This is the only match where I am fully aware of what both characters are capable of.

Franky stands no chance whatsoever. Alita destroy him effortlessly.
She is far faster, stronger, far more skilled in technical fighting and with her Ponter Kust, and can fry Franky with a move or equally obliterate him with any of her weapons or technics. Truth= End of Manga Alita solo's the strawhats with her abilities and equipment.

lambda
08-30-2007, 02:42 PM
Round Two, Match Twelve.


Gain Esperanza vs Youzen

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Youzen turns into Buchuu, or Nataku or about half of the characters in Houshin Engi that atomizes Gain and the arena. Still wondering what he is doing in this tournament.


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Franky vs Alita

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Kaname said about everything there was to say about this match.


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Jio vs Kyosuke

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pass.

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Abigail vs Zelgadis

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Even if that Abigail tentacles can't harm Zelgadis, they should have the power to restrain him. Abigail cast spells after spells until he finds something that works.

On Aby's durability, he tooks attacks more powerful than everything short of a Dragon Slave and iirc, La Tilto is only effective on spirits (i.e. ghosts) and Mazokus, maybe zombies too. Abygail doesn't fall under any of these categories.


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Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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So yeah, Grunbeld against Saiyan Saga Vegita, that's an interesting match. Grunbeld could hit Ryoko for days and just burn her hair for his trouble. Horrible, horrible rapestomp.

You don't need to be a Kami to be stupidly powerful.

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Ion
08-30-2007, 02:47 PM
Does Zelgadis have any defenses against spells that do spiritual damage?

Aldric
08-30-2007, 02:56 PM
You've got to remember even if Youzen has nukes Gain can cancel 80% of all magical attacks with his sword. Youzen Paopei stuff could fall under this category, no?

lambda
08-30-2007, 03:09 PM
^Youzen also has the edge in mobility(flight) so he can spam deathrays until Gain dies.

Aldric
08-30-2007, 03:10 PM
Well I guess Gain is fucked then.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 08:21 PM
Gain Esperanza vs Youzen

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>_> Stop making Youzen look so OP lambda! He's still within the limits! Grrr. Just cause he's a super duper shapeshifting transforming power/ability copying machine. :P

Anyways...yeah even in Youzen true youkai form...he has limited regeneration and could use many transformation and Paopei (weapons in HE). From total manipulation of sand to manipulation of water, to atoms and lasers. Or transform to Bukichi for massive class 100 strength and speed.
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Abigail vs Zelgadis

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Yeah I don't think Zel could really hurt him.
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Grunbeld vs Ryoko

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Well...Ryoko just got more going for her. With major advantage of flight, teleportation and phasing among other things. >< Even in his dragon form, I think Ryoko's energy beams could still hurt him.
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Aww nobody watches Soultaker? Your so missing out. >< Kyosuke is badass. He's like Ryuhou + Kazuma put into one...kinda. And with the personality of the cool calm devil himself. :P

Ion
08-30-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm still waiting until I get some news on Zelgadis' ability to take spiritual attacks.

If he can, then Abigail would have some trouble. If he can't, then Abigail takes this.

Suzumebachi
08-30-2007, 09:55 PM
What kind of spiritual attacks?

People usually handle them in Slayers by blocking them or moving out of the way.

Aldric
08-30-2007, 09:58 PM
As I said he can summon ghosts and spirits of grudge who devour the target's physical and astral bodies.

Since they are ghosts they aren't simply an energy beam or an explosion that can be dodged once and you're safe.

Suzumebachi
08-30-2007, 10:03 PM
How strong are the ghosts?

There are spells that can dispell ghosts.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 10:04 PM
I'm still waiting until I get some news on Zelgadis' ability to take spiritual attacks.

If he can, then Abigail would have some trouble. If he can't, then Abigail takes this.

You mean like...tank spiritual attacks? Well in Slayers world...humans don't have a large astral body or maybe even one at all...at least not enough to do damage with. So they never got it by any astral attacks before...

So it's anyone's guess. Unless I'm mistaken. But if by spiritual = soul...then yeah that might be a different story.

Suzumebachi
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
So they never got it by any astral attacks before...

Say what ?? We watching the same anime?

Aldric
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
There's no mention of their strength but given Abigail's magical power and the fact it's his second most powerful offensive spell I'd say they're pretty high level ghosts.

Tuxx
08-30-2007, 10:18 PM
Say what ?? We watching the same anime?

I don't recall... What? Have they ever been hit by one before? Some of the astral spells don't do much to humans...only make them unconscious and stuff. Unless you mean like the offensive ones that destroy body and spirit...but really don't remember seeing them hit by any of those before.

Keollyn
09-02-2007, 05:26 PM
This match goes to Tuxx

Aldric
09-02-2007, 06:12 PM
Oh well.

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

Tuxx
09-02-2007, 09:03 PM
Oh...already?

Aww ><