Spidey and Wolverine vs. Arlong and his crew

[Kuya]

same location where Luffy and Arlong fought.

All of Arlongs pirates including the fodder.

616.

[Banhammer]

wowerine all the way

[Kuya]

u should have seen him try and fight ww hulk. he got embarassed.

[Banhammer]

u should have seen him try and fight ww hulk. he got embarassed.

plot device, in a real fight, hulk would never have gotten past emma frost, or bloodlusted kitty pride

[helpmenow316]

wolv would kick all of there asses.. The claws alone would slice throw anything they have...

Spider would do pretty damn good for himself too.

[Suzumebachi]

How would they beat MohMoh?

[EvilMoogle]

How would they beat MohMoh?

MohMoh?

http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/Profile_Mohmoh.jpg

I don't know, she looks pretty formidable, but I think they could probably figure something out.

Oh, wait, you probably mean the giant sea cow? Well, I suppose we could turn it around, how will MohMoh hurt Wolverine? Eat him? That would work very temporarily before he carves his way out.

I think the marvel team could beat Arlong's crew eventually. Might take Wolverine regening from nothing a few times to take the heavy hitters, but given long enough they'd win.

The only way I see Arlong's crew winning would be if they retreated to water and refused to fight on land. But that's not really fighting.

[helpmenow316]

sea cow burgers anyone???

[chequemaite]

This is so one-sided it's not even funny. Spidey and Wolverine rapes.

[MdB]

wowerine all the way

And what the hell is wolverine going to do against someone like Arlong? He's outclassed in both reaction time and speed. And Arlong dwarfs him in physical strength. Arlong would pound him till he's knocked the fuck out.

[TWF]

And what the hell is wolverine going to do against someone like Arlong? He's outclassed in both reaction time and speed. And Arlong dwarfs him in physical strength. Arlong would pound him till he's knocked the fuck out.

The OP never specified which Wolverine in this battle. For all we know this good be the Logan that gets his skin melted off till he's nothing but a skeleton, who would rapestomp Arlong...

[Suzumebachi]

Wolverine can be knocked out.

[TWF]

Not the Logan I'm talking about....if so, this becomes an epic ass-tearing on Arlong and his boys.

[TWF]

Wait, was the OP saying the setting for the fight is 616 Earth or what?

[helpmenow316]

And what the hell is wolverine going to do against someone like Arlong? He's outclassed in both reaction time and speed. And Arlong dwarfs him in physical strength. Arlong would pound him till he's knocked the fuck out.

I dont think you realize how strong WOLV and spidey is... Wolv can be knocked out but it takes hell of allot to knock his ass out. I dont think arlong would know what hit him... Think aobut this wolv is able to take blows from hulk and juggs.Which i know for a fact is a hell allot stonger then arlong and his crew. Wolv is faster then people think. Also how fast is arlong.. I dont remember him moving really fast... Plus keep in mind he would heal faster then arlong can hurt him. Plus with his bones and unbreakable. Wolv would simple be a out match for him..

Spiderman is smart fast and super strong. He has the web that would be a hell of a pain in the ass for the mermans group.

[JJsuperuler]

ahh this is the easy thread ive ever seen obviously WOLVERINE AND SPIDERMAN are u stupid they will kick there ass wolverine alone wil take on like 80% of them then spidey will take on the other 20%

[MdB]

I dont think you realize how strong WOLV and spidey is... Wolv can be knocked out but it takes hell of allot to knock his ass out. I dont think arlong would know what hit him... Think aobut this wolv is able to take blows from hulk and juggs.Which i know for a fact is a hell allot stonger then arlong and his crew. Wolv is faster then people think. Also how fast is arlong.. I dont remember him moving really fast... Plus keep in mind he would heal faster then arlong can hurt him. Plus with his bones and unbreakable. Wolv would simple be a out match for him..

Spiderman is smart fast and super strong. He has the web that would be a hell of a pain in the ass for the mermans group.

Bullshit, Wolverine riduculous durability comes from his adamantium skeleton and regenerative abilities. Arlong got enough physical strength to pound his ass until he's knocked the shit out. And since when is wolverine fast enough to speedblitz someone that can catch a cannonball in his mouth without any effort? Your half assed idiotic arguments are laughable at best....

ahh this is the easy thread ive ever seen obviously WOLVERINE AND SPIDERMAN are u stupid they will kick there ass wolverine alone wil take on like 80% of them then spidey will take on the other 20%

Shut up and read One Piece idiot.

[helpmenow316]

Bullshit, Wolverine riduclous durability comes from his adamantium skeleton and regenerative abilities. Arlong got enough physical strength to pound his ass until he's knocked the shit out. And since when is wolverine fast enough to speedblitz someone that can catch a cannonball in his mouth without any effort? Your half ass idiotic arguments are laughable at best....


First i didnt say he was fast enough to do that.But he is faster then what people think.Don't put words in my mouth. Wolv has over 100 year of fighting exps.He I doubt arlong is stronger enough to pound wolv. Because of the adamantuim skel it add more mass so that makes his punchs hell of allot harder then a normal person. His claws can cut throw ANYTHING. ARLONG ISN'T STRONGER THEN JUG AND A PISSED OFF HULK.which wolv can fight them move by move. Also wolv has fought people who can move just as fast as alrong. And just because arlong has fast reflexes doesnt mean he is faster enough to "speedblizts* wolv and spiderman. Once when arlong get to close to wolv it over.

Wolv
Regenerative healing factor
Superhuman senses, strength, stamina, agility, and reflexes
Adamantium-laced skeletal structure with retractable claws
Resistance to telepathy
Expert martial artist

Spiderman
Superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, reflexes, and durability
Gifted intellect
Ability to stick to solid surfaces
Clairvoyant "spider-sense"
Night vision
Accelerated healing factor
Toxic stingers that extend from forearms
Ability to produce both organic and synthetic spider-webbing


Also keep in mind wolv has exp fighting people with real super speed.

[MdB]

You said Arlong wouldn't notice Wolverine attacking, you're the one setting up a Straw Man, try again. Wolverine's experience is usefull in a fight, but it wouldn't suddenly turn the tables when Arlong completely dominates him. The fact of you saying Arlong isn't strong enough to punch his ass into oblivion is pure ignorance, where talking about someone who's around early Luffy's level of physical strength. The one who even in the beginning could already lift and swing a Seaking the size of a blue whale.... Dunno what you want to proof by listing both Wolverine and Spidey's abilities.

[helpmenow316]

Dude wolv can fight a pissed off hulk. He can take hit after hit by him. Wolv was made to fight people who are phy strong. I doubt that arlong is as stronger then a pissed off hulk or juggernaut. Arlong is strong but not super strong like those two. Yea he pushed around luffy but arlong isnt the strongest person in the world.

Now you going to claim that arlong can beat superman or thor....

also all i have seen arlong doing is punching a piller of rock and stuff like that.. Spiderman can easly match that.




Also if he tried the bitting thing to wolv..All that would do is living him a hell of an opening for wolv to gutt him... Also keep in mind they wouldnt be abkle to get the drop on ether spiderman (spider senses) and wolv (he would smell them coming.) You acting like they both are bunch of rookies... Wolv has lived for over 100 years for a reason. Spiderman has lasted for a pretty good time himself.

Arlong is a hand to hand fighter just like wolv.. Wolv has the training and the mentality to easly take on guys like arlong.

arlong moved are basic on biting and pucnh attacks... Both of those are easy to uses against a person even mroe so if they fighting someone who is a black belt in many arts.


Yes he kicked luffy ass but look who won at the end. Also if luffy was as skilled as he is now.. Arlong wouldnt of lasted as long as he did.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=XpmbgdA0vdQ&mode=related&search=

Also watch his fight with luffy. Arlong left him self open for attack time after time..Arlong as to get close to the person he fight which would lead to a fatal blow from Wolv. Even if he is able to bite wolv it would make little problem..Because he would just heal up... His teath isnt strong enough to break thro his metal cover bones.
So it wouldnt even break it.

Yes the shark dart is a good move..But the problem is that the fight would be over way to freaking fast before he get to use it.

[Banhammer]

berseker wolverine is known to have marvel level "sp33dbl1tz3s!!11!"

[Arishem]

Dude wolv can fight a pissed off hulk. He can take hit after hit by him. Wolv was made to fight people who are phy strong. I doubt that arlong is as stronger then a pissed off hulk or juggernaut. Arlong is strong but not super strong like those two. Yea he pushed around luffy but arlong isnt the strongest person in the world.

Now you going to claim that arlong can beat superman or thor....

also all i have seen arlong doing is punching a piller of rock and stuff like that.. Spiderman can easly match that.

Spiderman is a wealking compared to characters in OP. Arlong lifts houses and throws them at people. Spidey's feats are shit compared to this.
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/545/nolikehouseqy2.jpg

As for Wolverine, everyone knows that he fights with people far out of his league. The only reason he's even able to get hits in is because of his popularity. Realistically, any class 100 would just launch his ass out of sight. I believe that's actually happened before.

[Grandmaster Kane]

LMao spidey has done that with 3 stories of a office building so try again

+ the fact that spidey's strength is now in about the 30 ton range instead of the 10

arlong gets guppy raped

[Arishem]

I'd like to see some scans. Marveldatabase states that Peter lifts 15 tons on average and 20 under optimum conditions. Arlong is also more durable than Spiderman, seeing how he caught a cannonball in his mouth at its highest velocity and proceeded to crush it with his jaws. He'd tear into Spidey like a slab of meat.

Edit: Arlong catching and crushing a cannonball with his mouth.
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3292/snackuw8.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4210/spitfu3.jpg

[helpmenow316]

Not really back the the bullets and can ball was allot slower then what we know these days...

has superhuman strength (now capable of lifting 20 tons optimally) http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-Man_(Peter_Parker)


Also that not really true abouthis pop...Back in the 70-80 he wasnt seen as a big part of the comic book.He was just a guy who pops in and out of comic book... He was made to fight the hulk. Incredible Hulk #180 (1974)The first time he shown up in a comic book was the hulk. he fought hulk in his first book and he stud his ground. The reason why he wins his fight because he is built to take out anyone.


Look face it. Look at the video..He is clearly out match with someone with martial art back ground. His standeds are weak and he leave to many opening. Wolv would just gut him when he let him get bitting.
Arlong is one of those fighter who just charge mindless.He has no real skill in fighting.

Give me some reason why arlong would win?? Not just oh he can bullbliz them because that wont really work when dealing with a person like him ....

also seeing as spiderman did beat superboy in a cross over....

also keep in mind those building would be made out of just wood...Those fail to compare to housing that are made from brick.

also if wolv can fight hand to hand with a guy like this..... and still live...

The Hulk possesses an incredible level of superhuman physical ability. His capacity for physical strength is potentially limitless due to the fact that the Hulk's strength increases proportionally with his level of great emotional stress, anger in particular. The Hulk uses his superhumanly strong leg muscles to leap great distances. The Hulk has been known to cover hundreds of miles in a single bound and once leaped almost into orbit around the Earth. The Hulk has shown a high resistance to physical damage nearly regardless of the cause, and has also shown resistance to extreme temperatures, poisons, and diseases in addition to regeneration of damaged or destroyed areas of tissue at an amazing rate.

The Hulk's body also has a gland that makes an "oxygenated per fluorocarbon emulsion", which creates pressure in the Hulk's lungs and effectively lets him breathe underwater and move quickly between varying depths without concerns about decompression or nitrogen narcosis.


Arlong has no chances.

[Arishem]

Not really back the the bullets and can ball was allot slower then what we know these days...

has superhuman strength (now capable of lifting 20 tons optimally) http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-Man_(Peter_Parker)
Lifting 20 tons is unimpresive compared to a guy who was on an equal level with Luffy at the time. The latter threw a blue whale sized Seaking like it weighed nothing.

Also that not really true abouthis pop...Back in the 70-80 he wasnt seen as a big part of the comic book.He was just a guy who pops in and out of comic book... He was made to fight the hulk. Incredible Hulk #180 (1974)The first time he shown up in a comic book was the hulk. he fought hulk in his first book and he stud his ground. The reason why he wins his fight because he is built to take out anyone.
It's true now. Wolverine shouldn't be able to hang with guys like Hulk or Namor.

Look face it. Look at the video..He is clearly out match with someone with martial art back ground. His standeds are weak and he leave to many opening. Wolv would just gut him when he let him get bitting.
Arlong is one of those fighter who just charge mindless.He has no real skill in fighting.
Uhh, who are you talking about?

Give me some reason why arlong would win?? Not just oh he can bullbliz them because that wont really work when dealing with a person like him ....
Arlong would totally overpower Wolverine. If he couldn't knock him out, he could simply throw him a couple miles out to sea, which would take Logan out of the fight. Spiderman is nowhere near as strong as Luffy. His blows would be ineffective, and the merman pirate has been shown to be fast enough to hit him. Spidey has been tagged by guys far less agile than Arlong(Rhino for example). He could also kill him with his sword.


I think this should cover everything.

[helpmenow316]

Dude the hulk ripped him in TWO and throw both part to to differnt mountain range.. And he was able to come back from that.

Like i said look at the way arlong fight.He is sloppy ass hell. One move wolv would slice right throw him.

also i was talking about wolv he has a martial art back ground. He study in japan for allot of years under masters of the art. He is has a back ground that would rival batman.


also why shouldnt he be able to hang with people like the hulk? He is strong enough to fight them.

Also spiderman has been tag by other people .but none of them was able to beat him.

Arlong wanst that impressive to begain with.He is a wimp if you compare him to Marvel.... Do you think he would be able to take out the hulk or juggs?? Hell no.

also what the point of throwning him out to sea..all he would do is swim back find the guy and slit his neck.

[azngamer87]

Now this what I am talking about my 2 favorite marvel characters teaming up to whip one piece ass. Nothing can stop peter parker and logan when they team up.

[Arishem]

Dude the hulk ripped him in TWO and throw both part to to differnt mountain range.. And he was able to come back from that.
That counts as losing in the OBD. If he's made into a non-factor in this fight, he loses. It's as simple as that.

Like i said look at the way arlong fight.He is sloppy ass hell. One move wolv would slice right throw him.
How is he sloppy? You're not substantiating your claims about Arlong's fighting skills at all.

also i was talking about wolv he has a martial art back ground. He study in japan for allot of years under masters of the art. He is has a back ground that would rival batman.
This means nothing against someone who is far stronger and faster than he is. Arlong was part of Jimbei's crew. He's been in a ton of fights as a result of his chosen profession.

also why shouldnt he be able to hang with people like the hulk? He is strong enough to fight them.
WRONG. Wolverine isn't strong enough to hang with anyone in class 100 or even characters that lift just a couple tons. His regeneration combined with his adamantium skeleton just prevent him from being killed or put out of action permanently.

Also spiderman has been tag by other people .but none of them was able to beat him.
Spiderman has been beat by plenty of people.

Arlong wanst that impressive to begain with.He is a wimp if you compare him to Marvel.... Do you think he would be able to take out the hulk or juggs?? Hell no.
He's impressive compared to the two Marvel characters in this match up. What does Marvelverse have to do with anything?

also what the point of throwning him out to sea..all he would do is swim back find the guy and slit his neck.
Wolverine would sink to the bottom with his body density.


This should cover everything. Again.

[helpmenow316]

arlong fighting skill. First when he punchs he leave himself open for sevral attacks. His biggest move is trying to bite people. If he trys that with wolv he would simple slice him up ..Even allowing himself to be bitting.Because arlong cant bite throw his bones.
When he bites he leave his face open for an easy blow. Also for a master like wolv speed and bruteness doesnt mean anything.. He learned how to use people size and speed against them.

Also i didnt mean he would be able to hang out with the tons ones.. Because he can lift that much.But wolv is smart enough to use there size against them...

also the fact is there are millions in marvel that would make arlong look like a wimp.


Also it has to do with this because both of them have work or fought with most of the marvel guys.And they was able to handle there own.

Also It doesnt matter if he sinks he would come back anyways. His been dropped in to water and seas many of time and was able to swim.

It simple.. Arlong doent stand a chances.







Yes arlong been in tons..But odds are wolv been in millions.

[Arishem]

arlong fighting skill. First when he punchs he leave himself open for sevral attacks. His biggest move is trying to bite people. If he trys that with wolv he would simple slice him up ..Even allowing himself to be bitting.Because arlong cant bite throw his bones.
When he bites he leave his face open for an easy blow. Also for a master like wolv speed and bruteness doesnt mean anything.. He learned how to use people size and speed against them.
You're forgetting that all of Arlong's henchmen are there. He doesn't fight anyone unless they're able to get through his crew. Assuming Spiderman and Wolverine got through them, he'd already be well aware of Wolverine's claws and body. I doubt he'd use his teeth in that case. Also, Arlong's fighting skills are just fine. He was able to dodge every single one of Luffy's attacks when he was using swords. Finally, attacks taking advantage of your opponent's momentum aren't of much worth when your enemy is much stronger and faster than you.

Also i didnt mean he would be able to hang out with the tons ones.. Because he can lift that much.But wolv is smart enough to use there size against them...
Really? Provide scans showing him do this.

also the fact is there are millions in marvel that would make arlong look like a wimp.
This has nothing to do with this debate. We're talking about WOLVERINE and SPIDERMAN. I put them in caps because it seems like you're a little confused.

Also it has to do with this because both of them have work or fought with most of the marvel guys.And they was able to handle there own.
They survive because Marvel isn't going to kill two of their most popular characters. Magneto could've easily finished Wolverine off when he stripped him of his adamantium. Hulk could've easily killed Spiderman when he and his Warband defeated the group he was with.

Also It doesnt matter if he sinks he would come back anyways. His been dropped in to water and seas many of time and was able to swim.
If he's taken out of the fight, he loses. Spiderman will be dead by the time he comes back.

It simple.. Arlong doent stand a chances.
Arlong has a good chance of winning.

Yes arlong been in tons..But odds are wolv been in millions.
wtf?

Well, I'm done with you for today. I might post in here tomorrow if you have arguments containing logic.

[Kuya]

to whoever asked.

i said it was the same location where Arlong and Luffy fought. All of ARLONG's crew is involved.

and it's 616 Wolvy and Spidey.

[MdB]

Dude wolv can fight a pissed off hulk. He can take hit after hit by him. Wolv was made to fight people who are phy strong. I doubt that arlong is as stronger then a pissed off hulk or juggernaut. Arlong is strong but not super strong like those two. Yea he pushed around luffy but arlong isnt the strongest person in the world.

Now you going to claim that arlong can beat superman or thor....

also all i have seen arlong doing is punching a piller of rock and stuff like that.. Spiderman can easly match that.

I never claimed he was as strong as the Hulk or Superman, so I kindly request you to shut the fuck up with your retarded Straw Mans. I dont care if he can fight with characters like the Hulk, can he actually withstand a single blow from a pissed off Hulk without flying miles away and without the Hulk jobbing? No.... Arlong can flick water with enough velocity to mimic the impact of a fucking gun, he can lift houses and fight evenly with someone that can swing an 40 ton seaking without pushing his physical strength to it's limits. His jaws alone are strong enough to crush a solid cannonball.


Also if he tried the bitting thing to wolv..All that would do is living him a hell of an opening for wolv to gutt him... Also keep in mind they wouldnt be abkle to get the drop on ether spiderman (spider senses) and wolv (he would smell them coming.) You acting like they both are bunch of rookies... Wolv has lived for over 100 years for a reason. Spiderman has lasted for a pretty good time himself.

No Limit Fallacy, spiderman has been tagged by people slower than him and Wolverine smelling Arlong is irrelevant.


Arlong is a hand to hand fighter just like wolv.. Wolv has the training and the mentality to easly take on guys like arlong.

Wolverine wouldn't stand a change against Arlong at close range. He can't withstand his blows without being KO'd.


arlong moved are basic on biting and pucnh attacks... Both of those are easy to uses against a person even mroe so if they fighting someone who is a black belt in many arts.

Great logic. So martial art's=instant win? That still wouldn't solve the massive difference in overall strength.


Yes he kicked luffy ass but look who won at the end. Also if luffy was as skilled as he is now.. Arlong wouldnt of lasted as long as he did.

Your point? Current Luffy would also fucking rape Spiderman and Wolverine. So again your spouting irrelevant bullshit.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=XpmbgdA0vdQ&mode=related&search=

Also watch his fight with luffy. Arlong left him self open for attack time after time..Arlong as to get close to the person he fight which would lead to a fatal blow from Wolv. Even if he is able to bite wolv it would make little problem..Because he would just heal up... His teath isnt strong enough to break thro his metal cover bones.
So it wouldnt even break it.

Yes the shark dart is a good move..But the problem is that the fight would be over way to freaking fast before he get to use it.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3267/snackuw8uv2.jpg
This alone shows he can react in time before Wolverine could stab him. And I'm not interested in your hypothesis that screams ''fanboy'' all over it. Finding the best scenario for Wolverine to kill Arlong is stupid.

[King Bookah]

I dunno know guys, isn't wolverine like, I dunno, Immortal. He and Spidey win by default.

[MdB]

I dunno know guys, isn't wolverine like, I dunno, Immortal. He and Spidey win by default.

Using that logic he can even kill Goku.

[King Bookah]

What logic? Wolvie's immortal. How can he lose? Besides, the OP never said if it was KO or Death so I just assumed it was a fight to the death, which Arlong won't win.

But I may be overlooking something, so help me out here Kamina.

[Banhammer]

On hulk.
He graved two boulderliked legs and threw them from wichester to san diego, effortlessly. It tookhelluvalot of pounds to the head so it would make enough brain wiplashes to knock wolv out
temporarly.
What can fishsticks man do to compare to that? Really, what attack does arlong have, him or his entire crew that can beat wolwerine?
If he throws him away, spidey can just catch him, and he can't throw someone as heavy as wolverine that far.
None of their mooves are fast enough to counter spider sense. Spidersense has given him enough pre warning to dodge lasers. don't remember from where though, but at the very least, machinegun fire.
Plus, he has caught bullets even without it.
while spidey stays in the background giving suport (traping, distracting, picking up wolverine if he gets thrown) wolverine just has a gory bloody, unpleasent, clawfest.

And I don't know if you've ever been to new york city, but believe me, the buildings spiderman has been shown to hold are at least 30 times bigger than that. His max was 15 tons, per finger.

And the only way goku could beat wolves is to blow up the planet, or teleporting him to space, I aint giving him stronger than adamantium punches, or stronger than adamanitum kamehames.

[MdB]

What logic? Wolvie's immortal. How can he lose? Besides, the OP never said if it was KO or Death so I just assumed it was a fight to the death, which Arlong won't win.

But I may be overlooking something, so help me out here Kamina.

The logic of them winning because Wolverine is immortal. He can still lose by being knocked the fuck out or simply being out of the ring or whatever. Making a fight with regenerators but saying the fight is to the death is really biased.

[King Bookah]

I'm just saying Kamina, I don't recall the OP saying anything regarding stipulations. But fine, if it's by KO, Arlong wins (a point I made quite evident). If by death, Arlong loses. That's only the point I was making.

[Banhammer]

You kidding? You need hulk level strength to beat wolves, and spidey can easly pick him up if thrown

[helpmenow316]

Bullshit, Wolverine riduculous durability comes from his adamantium skeleton and regenerative abilities. Arlong got enough physical strength to pound his ass until he's knocked the shit out. And since when is wolverine fast enough to speedblitz someone that can catch a cannonball in his mouth without any effort? Your half assed idiotic arguments are laughable at best....



Shut up and read One Piece idiot.

I never claimed he was as strong as the Hulk or Superman, so I kindly request you to shut the fuck up with your retarded Straw Mans. I dont care if he can fight with characters like the Hulk, can he actually withstand a single blow from a pissed off Hulk without flying miles away and without the Hulk jobbing? No.... Arlong can flick water with enough velocity to mimic the impact of a fucking gun, he can lift houses and fight evenly with someone that can swing an 40 ton seaking without pushing his physical strength to it's limits. His jaws alone are strong enough to crush a solid cannonball.



No Limit Fallacy, spiderman has been tagged by people slower than him and Wolverine smelling Arlong is irrelevant.



Wolverine wouldn't stand a change against Arlong at close range. He can't withstand his blows without being KO'd.



Great logic. So martial art's=instant win? That still wouldn't solve the massive difference in overall strength.



Your point? Current Luffy would also fucking rape Spiderman and Wolverine. So again your spouting irrelevant bullshit.



http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3267/snackuw8uv2.jpg
This alone shows he can react in time before Wolverine could stab him. And I'm not interested in your hypothesis that screams ''fanboy'' all over it. Finding the best scenario for Wolverine to kill Arlong is stupid.
Ok he can bite on a slow moving cannon ball.Keep in mind gun powered back then wasnt as effective on pushing bullets and 32 lb canon ball...

Yea arlong can shot water at fast round...acting like bullets..But bullets doesnt kill wolv...


If wolv can stand a blow from hulk or the other heave hitters in marvel....I think he can handle arlong..Also wolv beat lobo someone who is almost as strong as superman.. So by taking both jugg and lobo it means he can withstand hell of a punsihment.
also yea his jaw is strong enough to crush a canon ball but wolv bones are all of allow stonger then lead.HIS BONE ARE UNBREAKABLE.

Also wolv have tagged people like quicksliver.Who moves a hell allot faster then arlong..

Also martial art doesnt matter?? What have you been smoking. People who are black belts and people who have as much training as wolv and batman can take down people 3 times there size..And they have before..Arlong fighting move are slow. Look at how he moved in the fight with luffy that i posted.. He left himself open so many time.. When it comes to wolv all it take is one opening.

[Banhammer]

canonballs at pirates time flew slower than a NBA level thrown basketball. They just had more momentum.
And there were american and portuguese ships whose wood was so dense cannonballs were just bounced off. Compare that to adamnitum

[helpmenow316]

Not really.The way canon ball fly back then..They didnt fly in an arc like eveyone thing. They skip off the servers of the water.Thats how they can go as far as they do.. that it i think if i remember right they go about 50-100 mph..Which is slow moving when you think about that both wolv and spiderman can doge our speeding bullets.

[Banhammer]

I ment top speed. And cannonball dodging for spidey and wolves is 10* easier than playing dodgeball blindfolded against quicksilver.

[helpmenow316]

Yea i have to agree....

[MdB]

Ok he can bite on a slow moving cannon ball.Keep in mind gun powered back then wasnt as effective on pushing bullets and 32 lb canon ball...

Yea arlong can shot water at fast round...acting like bullets..But bullets doesnt kill wolv...


If wolv can stand a blow from hulk or the other heave hitters in marvel....I think he can handle arlong..Also wolv beat lobo someone who is almost as strong as superman.. So by taking both jugg and lobo it means he can withstand hell of a punsihment.
also yea his jaw is strong enough to crush a canon ball but wolv bones are all of allow stonger then lead.HIS BONE ARE UNBREAKABLE.

Also wolv have tagged people like quicksliver.Who moves a hell allot faster then arlong..

Also martial art doesnt matter?? What have you been smoking. People who are black belts and people who have as much training as wolv and batman can take down people 3 times there size..And they have before..Arlong fighting move are slow. Look at how he moved in the fight with luffy that i posted.. He left himself open so many time.. When it comes to wolv all it take is one opening.

Cannons in the 18th and 19th century could already break the sound barrier, there not slow at all. Arlong flicking water is a feat that shows his strength, you're just Red Herring. And than post a scan of Wolverine withstanding blows from Marvel's 100+ classes without jobbing. And once again you're Red Herring by making distractions and avoiding the point of someones argument. Since you make all those claims of him beating Lobo and tagging Quicksilver proof them by posting scans (though there all done by ridiculous jobbing). As for the rest of your argument..... Punctuation! Punctuation! Fucking punctuation and spelling, instead of blabbering shit. There's a difference between beating someone who's still a human, or someone that surpasses those capabilities by a landslide.

[Banhammer]

Do tell, how is arlong beating wolv's? Don't say throw him in the ocean,spidey can catch him before he goes too far, and dodge any ranged attacks arlong has thrown at him.

[MdB]

Do tell, how is arlong beating wolv's? Don't say throw him in the ocean,spidey can catch him before he goes too far, and dodge any ranged attacks arlong has thrown at him.

Except the burden of proof is not on me.

[Banhammer]

Yes, yes it is..... Your defending him.

[helpmenow316]

Cannons in the 18th and 19th century could already break the sound barrier, there not slow at all. Arlong flicking water is a feat that shows his strength, you're just Red Herring. And than post a scan of Wolverine withstanding blows from Marvel's 100+ classes without jobbing. And once again you're Red Herring by making distractions and avoiding the point of someones argument. Since you make all those claims of him beating Lobo and tagging Quicksilver proof them by posting scans (though there all done by ridiculous jobbing). As for the rest of your argument..... Punctuation! Punctuation! Fucking punctuation and spelling, instead of blabbering shit. There's a difference between beating someone who's still a human, or someone that surpasses those capabilities by a landslide.

How is it red herrings when i am comparing two people who fought before and was able to withstand blows?? The canon balls could not break the sound. Plus if they can i would like to see where you fond your info. Plus it doesnt really matter if they do because they still slow when you compare them to modern day weapons.

Why would they job the hulk in his own comic book?When wolv first came out??

Also speaking about redherrings the crap about my spelling is a big one. You avoiding the truth by pointing out my spelling and grammar flaws..Nice job...

Also about those links


http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/wolvielobo3.jpg

arlong cant even try to do this to wolv.. He just not strong enough...So if wolv can walk away from this... Arlong cant stand a chances.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stargazing/67793925/

Wolv is a fighting machine.He was built made drawn to take down people who are much stronger then him. Thats why they made him.That why the put him in the hulk comic book as his first apparent. For him to take down people like arlong..it not even a problem.

[MdB]

Yes, yes it is..... Your defending him.

I didn't made the claim of Wolverine tanking Arlongs blow like nothing, I can't proof a negative. But pounding him till he loses his conconsious wouldn't be a pretty hard task.

How is it red herrings when i am comparing two people who fought before and was able to withstand blows?? The canon balls could not break the sound. Plus if they can i would like to see where you fond your info. Plus it doesnt really matter if they do because they still slow when you compare them to modern day weapons.

Why would they job the hulk in his own comic book?When wolv first came out??

Also speaking about redherrings the crap about my spelling is a big one. You avoiding the truth by pointing out my spelling and grammar flaws..Nice job...

Also about those links


http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/wolvielobo3.jpg

arlong cant even try to do this to wolv.. He just not strong enough...So if wolv can walk away from this... Arlong cant stand a chances.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stargazing/67793925/

Wolv is a fighting machine.He was built made drawn to take down people who are much stronger then him. Thats why they made him.That why the put him in the hulk comic book as his first apparent. For him to take down people like arlong..it not even a problem.

It's Red Herring because you make a distraction from my objective. And the cannons in the 18th and 19th century that are potrayed in One Piece can break the sound barrier, or are close to being subsonic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_artillery_in_the_American_Civil_War
http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/cannon.htm
English cannon, like others, were given names that indicated their sizes. Falcon, saker, demi-culverin, culverin, demi-cannon, cannon and basilisc described calibres from 2-1/2" up to 8-3/4", and weights from 800 lb up to 9000 lb. The middle-of-the-range culverin was 5-1/2" calibre (about a 20pdr), with a range of 460 yards point-blank, and 2650 yards when elevated by 10°. This implies a muzzle velocity of at least 865 fps, or 590 mph.
I pointed out your spelling because I have trouble figuring out just what the hell you wanted to say. And the first scan you posted is Wolverine jobbing like a mad man, is it even canon considering Lobo isnt from Marvel...? The second one is irrelevent considering the scan didn't point out anything beside's ULTIMATE HULK owning ULTIMATE WOLVERINE. Than again show me why it wont take him any effort to kill someone who dwarfs him in fighting capabilities.

[helpmenow316]

The fight between lobo and wolv is canon. It one of the only crossovers that does carry on to both comic book . Also the fight of hulk and wolv shown that he is able to walk away from being tear apart. Wolv wont walk away from arlong till he is bloody pile died and fried. arlong is strong am not taking anything from him.But wolv still can take him down.The only way arlong can beat wolv is in water.but that would barrly slow him down.

Wolv is about 120 something years old...There is a reason why he lived so long..And there is a reason why he out live the other Xmen.

[Banhammer]

Hulk is the true jobber when he beats wolverine by wiplashing his brain.. And he's been taking punches from the juggernaut(bitch) since...forever
What is arlong compared to that?

[MdB]

Do you have proof it is canon? Even if it's canon, it wouldn't be an accurate display of Wolverine's strength, considering Lobo was jobbing. The fight between the Hulk and Wolverine is irrelevant, there both from the Ultimate universe not from the 616 one... Arlong could react in time when Wolverine tries to do something and has enough physical strength to punch his ass into oblivion. And did it ever crossed your mind why Wolverine lived so long? Hmmm... maybe it got something to do with his regeneration and popularity? Hmmm, I wonder what it is.....?

[Banhammer]

Any "sp33dbl1tz!!11!" is an author exageration, anyone can choose whatever is the speed they are going at, it's just "faster than perception". No lmits fallacy. I haven't gotten that far into the manga, but I did watch the anime, and arlong's speed is not that incredible.
Plus, woverine in bloodsport hits a speedster who could go so fast that actually made flashlike tornadoes in a hand to hand fight,

[MdB]

Any "sp33dbl1tz!!11!" is an author exageration, anyone can choose whatever is the speed they are going at, it's just "faster than perception". No lmits fallacy. I haven't gotten that far into the manga, but I did watch the anime, and arlong's speed is not that incredible.
Plus, woverine in bloodsport hits a speedster who could go so fast that actually made flashlike tornadoes in a hand to hand fight,

Too bad I never said Arlong would speedblitz Wolverine, Fallacy Fallacy argument. It doesn't matter if an author exaggerates the speed of his character, if that character vanished from someone's field of vision it's still is a display of that certain characters speed.

[Limit_Tester]

Too bad I never said Arlong would speedblitz Wolverine, Fallacy Fallacy argument. It doesn't matter if an author exaggerates the speed of his character, if that character vanished from someone's field of vision it still is a display of that certain characters speed.

wow... I can't believe you put up with these guys so long.

As for the topic, I see Arlong and crew winning this. All 3 of Arlong's top guys are stronger than Spiderman. Arlong himself is far stronger than Spiderman. They are all faster than Wolverine and Arlong should be able to keep up with Spiderman. I see one of the top guys keeping Wolverine busy while the rest of Arlong's men team up and take down Spiderman quickly. After Spiderman is done they can beat Wolverine into submission.

[Banhammer]

They are not fast nor skilled enough to beat spiderman, or to rip through webbing class 3. Spiderman traps one of them, giving wolvs more than enough time to cut his head off and pass to the next guy
And it dosen't matter their speed compared to wolves, he's been defeating speedester since before bloodsport, even though bloodsport is the first one I own

[MdB]

wow... I can't believe you put up with these guys so long.

Well, someone has to do it.

[Banhammer]

Obviously, we need vague debators to make us look even better

[MdB]

Obviously, we need vague debators to make us look even better

INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

[Banhammer]

Of course! And you execute a valuable purpose in it!

[EvilMoogle]

I'd just like to point out that the majority of cannons shown in One Piece are NOT civil war era howitzers, they're considerably older (and slower) models.

As to the one that shot at Arlong, we don't get to see it fire in the scan linked in this thread, but we do know they had time to have a brief conversation between when it was fired and when it hit. So it doesn't seem like much of a speed feat really.

Actually we don't have any speed feats that I can recall of the Arlong crew (well, swimming speed, but I'll go ahead and admit outright it would be bad for the Marvel team to take this into the water). They're strong, yes, but I don't think that will help much.

[Banhammer]

I'm the first to admit they would be screwed if they were to fight in the middle of the ocean.
But it wouldn't be worth debating if it were

[helpmenow316]

Well yea they would be screwed in the water i even said that before...
Also the main problem is that mangas never set prop speed power levels and whatever... On marvel they set everyone to have a set limits on there powers unless there are omi powerful.
But still arlong is strong..But i doubt he would be able to take out wolv...

Also the main problem is that we never set up if it a TKO or death match..Because even if wolv get TKO from arlong..He will keep coming and coming if he wants him dead..Look at how he tracked down and killed people in civilwar...

Also yes those fight are canon. The dc and marvel had a huge fight for the saving of there right full universes..