View Full Version : Kakashi vs. Kimmimaro
hyuuga_neji14732
08-22-2007, 04:21 AM
Ok the setting is the valley of the end Kakashi post timskip vs. Kimmimaro without the disease
~ Son of SPARDA ~
08-22-2007, 04:43 AM
Kakashi win's this easily. Kimimaro only has Taijutsu at his disposal, which makes him a close range fighter ONLY. Kakashi has 1,000 different techniques, of which at least half are most likely mid to long range seeing as Kakashi is a talented Ninjutsu user, that he could combat Kimimaro with thus keeping him and his bones at bay. While he's holding Kimimaro off, Kakashi could buy enough time to charge up his MS and literally wipe Kimimaro from the face of existence with his time/space jutsu.
martryn
08-22-2007, 04:49 AM
I think Kakashi takes this with just a little trouble. I imagine Kimi will give Kakashi as much trouble as Zabuza gave him. If nothing else, raikiri will pierce through bones, and Kimi can't take a hit to the heart. Kakashi has the moves to land a move like that. If not that, then any number of his ninjutsus would give Kimi a run for his money. And Kakashi's tai isn't bad, so at the least he can hold his own, even if he can't win a taijutsu based combat.
TreeofSephri
08-22-2007, 02:09 PM
Kakashi loses. Kakashi may have a 1000 jutsu but we have only seen a handful and thus those are the only ones we can say he uses. Nothing Kakashi has shown me would really do much to Kimimaro. Not to mention that Kakashi would not have enough time to sit there and charge MS. On top of that his aim is horrible and if he misses the battle is over. Finally, you have Sawarabi no Mai
Ramona Flowers
08-22-2007, 02:13 PM
lol...Kakashi wouldn't have a chance
Or he could just drown Kimimaro with Suitons.
Cochise
08-22-2007, 02:21 PM
Kakashi>Kimi...Last time I checked Kimi didn't have MS
Distracted
08-22-2007, 02:26 PM
OKay... first off why are there like 20 bajillion new threads all made about the nin from the Sound village?
and second... what the hell are people thinking to assume Kakashi would lose? At worse Kakashi would break a sweat during this match. Kimi is buff, don't get me wrong. For his age he's a beast... but he hasn't shown anything that Kakashi couldn't counter.
Also even though he hasn't shown us all 1000 jutsu he's copied (thus we can't assume he just pulls something out of his ass) those that he HAS shown us have been great. He is more than capable of taking Kimi out.
Cochise
08-22-2007, 02:36 PM
I haven't noticed a bajillon threads about the sound village but I have been gone...My Dosu VS Zabuza thread was made several weeks ago...Kimi-tards are the only ones who think Kimi has a chance against Kakashi...Kakashi has so many advantages against Kimi its not even funny
TreeofSephri
08-22-2007, 02:51 PM
OKay... first off why are there like 20 bajillion new threads all made about the nin from the Sound village?
and second... what the hell are people thinking to assume Kakashi would lose? At worse Kakashi would break a sweat during this match. Kimi is buff, don't get me wrong. For his age he's a beast... but he hasn't shown anything that Kakashi couldn't counter.
Also even though he hasn't shown us all 1000 jutsu he's copied (thus we can't assume he just pulls something out of his ass) those that he HAS shown us have been great. He is more than capable of taking Kimi out.
What can he use take Kimimaro out with? Kakashi has shown us Raikiri which is can be blocked by making himself a porcupine. Suiryudan, Suijinheki, a tunneling doton jutsu. How in the world would these help him win. Kimimaro on the other hand has a semi indestructible body immune to taijutsu. Kakashi only option is simply ninjutsu and with the jutsu he has shown us he cannot hope to win. Kakashi cannot counter Sawarabi no mai.
ItachiTheBunnyMolester
08-22-2007, 06:54 PM
Hehe you guys really hate Kakashi don't you?
but your also kindof underestimating Kimi
He is much faster than Kakashi, and like what happened with sasuke and lee, Xtreme speed>sharingan
I think Kakashi would win, but not by much, cus he can only use ninjutsu everything else is obsolete against kimi
bug_ninja
08-22-2007, 07:02 PM
I say Kimimaru wins this one but not easily
bug_ninja
08-22-2007, 07:04 PM
Kakashi win's this easily. Kimimaro only has Taijutsu at his disposal, which makes him a close range fighter ONLY. Kakashi has 1,000 different techniques, of which at least half are most likely mid to long range seeing as Kakashi is a talented Ninjutsu user, that he could combat Kimimaro with thus keeping him and his bones at bay. While he's holding Kimimaro off, Kakashi could buy enough time to charge up his MS and literally wipe Kimimaro from the face of existence with his time/space jutsu.
Kimimaru doesn't only use Taijutsu attacks his bone manipulation is a Ninjutau bloodline and his bone graveyard attack(Sawarabi no mai) would rip Kakashi to shreds except if he knows how to fly
Hmm,it all depends. Is Kimimaro stronger than Kabuto.
Because I remember Kakashi saying something about Kabuto being on the same level as him.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Dear god... people are vastly overrating kimi and underestimating Kakashi in this thread... and vastly underestimating Tsunade and overratting Kakashi in the next thread.
Kimi is fast, no one takes that away from him. However, he is not FASTER THAN KAKASHI!
Kakashi taught Sasuke how to be as fast as he was. Remember that speed Sasuke used to overcome Gaara's sand shield? Yeah... that was Kakashi's training... IN TWO WEEKS..
Kakashi is as fast as Kimi, and he has elemental manipulation.
Also to the idiot who said sawaribi no mai could tear Kakashi apart... how so? You're saying that Kimi would dig under ground... and then release a ton of bones... and Kakashi would just stand there?
Oh you mean above ground where Kakashi will have a lot more time to dodge it? Or are you claiming Gaara could take off into the air faster than Kakashi can run?
Stop over-estimating Kimi and underestimating Kakashi.
sawaribi no mai moves pretty fast,plus I think Kimi would catch Kakashi off guard before using that move.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 08:32 PM
Catch Kakashi off guard? With what?
A finger bullet, Kakashi could dodge that.
His bone sword? Kakashi would fight it with a kunai, and then use a Suiton followed by a Chidori.
the dance of the seedling ferns is kind of fast, but it's not freakish. Gaara saw it coming and out flew it. Since there is nothing Dragging Kimi that far underground, he'll never get it to grow the same way... and a giant spikey ball is only sort of scary. Kakashi could easily out run it.
Sasuke'
08-22-2007, 09:00 PM
Kakashi wins hands down.
Kakashi got caught off guard easily by Zabuza. What makes you think Kimimaro can't do the same?
Also, wouldn't you think Kakashi would be kinda freaked out by all the bones. And I'm sure Orochimaru probably warned Kimimaro about Kakashi's shringan. He warned Kabuto.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Yes, because Kakashi would totally be caught off guard more than Lee was.
Yes, Kabuto was warned about Kakashi's sharingan... and what did Kabuto do every time he encountered Kakashi? He ran... very fast...
Kakashi is fast, faster than Lee and faster than Gaara. He has the MS if things get bad, he has genjutsu, and he is more than capable of appearing underground with a bunshin, then appearing from behind and stabbing Kimi in the chest.
Kakashi takes this with minor difficulty.
Sasuke'
08-22-2007, 09:24 PM
Kakashi got caught off guard easily by Zabuza. What makes you think Kimimaro can't do the same?
Also, wouldn't you think Kakashi would be kinda freaked out by all the bones. And I'm sure Orochimaru probably warned Kimimaro about Kakashi's shringan. He warned Kabuto.
Well Kakashi is got better now. He got off than because I have no idea. But now he's alot better than before. Thats why he got my vote!:P
That logic fails. What makes you think Kakashi has improved over the past years?
edit: And this is healthy Kimimaro we're talking about. The poor guy was almosy dying when he fought Gaara and Lee and still almost managed to come up on top.
In fact all he needed was 2 seconds and Gaara and Lee would have died.
fuck plot no jutsu.
it kills all the great characters.
Kakuzu,Kimimaro,Dosu,Zabuza,Haku,etc
Distracted
08-22-2007, 09:30 PM
Zabuza caught Kakashi off guard because... well holy shit Zabuza was around the same level of strength as Kakashi. Zabuza is a truly strong person, don't underrate him. I also feel Zabuza could take Kimi, so your logic means nothing to me.
What do you mean how can I prove Kakashi has improved?
Okay let's see... he can use more chidori and he has gotten MS. The absolute peak of a bloodline that isn't even truly his.
I'm not underestimating Zabuza. I'm just saying from what ive seen. Kimimaro is stronger than him(by how much,I'm not sure).only because of his bloodline.
by the way did someone make a Zabuza vs Kimi thread
on topic:Well all that's true. But tell me, how strong do you think Kimimaro would have been,if he was up to his full health? I mean, You have to admit Gaara was crazy strong, not to mention he just finished fighting drunk lee. All this while nearly dying. And didn't Kimimaro actually help defeat the old KazeKage.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 09:46 PM
Except that I think Kakashi could slaughter Gaara as well, I also don't believe Kimi is stronger than Zabuza. If he wasn't sick, and was allowed to continue growing... he had far more than enough potential to surpass all of them. This is not the case... and nothing Kimi has shown tops Kakashi.
Also don't forget, Kakashi is a genius. He can find and make openings.
Kimimaro's a prodigy too, and don't forget he must have been strong for Orochimaru to be ready to take over his body at such an age.
Also Kimimaro's not that easy to kill. He got caught in Gaara's sand coffin and still managed to come out unharmed.
If Kakashi got caught in Gaara's sand coffin would he live? no.
durtycheese
08-23-2007, 01:08 PM
i think kakashi takes this... his raikiri should be able to rip kimmimaro into peices...
~ Son of SPARDA ~
08-23-2007, 01:47 PM
Kakashi loses. Kakashi may have a 1000 jutsu but we have only seen a handful and thus those are the only ones we can say he uses. Nothing Kakashi has shown me would really do much to Kimimaro. Not to mention that Kakashi would not have enough time to sit there and charge MS. On top of that his aim is horrible and if he misses the battle is over. Finally, you have Sawarabi no Mai
Absence of proof is not proof of absence... just because you haven't seen more of Kakashi's extensive arsenal of jutsu that falls within the mid to long range category doesn't mean he doesn't have any. Hell, we haven't seen Sakura's boobs but that doesn't mean she doesn't have any...
Sub-Zero
08-23-2007, 02:08 PM
Bringing in the DB pre-skip stats:
Stamina- 3
Seal Knowledge- 5
Ninjutsu- 5
Taijutsu- 4.5
Genjutsu- 4
Intelligence- 5
Force- 3.5
Speed- 4.5
Stamina- 4.5
Seal Knowledge- 3
Ninjutsu- 4
Taijutsu- 5
Genjutsu- 3
Intelligence- 3.5
Force- 3
Speed- 4.5
As you can see, Kimi and Kakashi are even on speed, but Kakashi is better than Kimi in seal knowledge, ninjutsu, genjutsu, intelligence, and force, while Kimi is better than Kakashi at taijutsu and stamina.
CS2 might give Kimimaro a chance of winning, but I doubt it would actually change the end result. I can't see Kimimaro winning this (as much as I'd like to). Experience takes this, however, there is no argument that Kimimaro wouldn't completely destroy Kakashi at age 15.
In an all taijutsu battle though, I think Kimi would win.
Sliver Fang
08-23-2007, 02:28 PM
Kakashi wins no doubt.
read distracted post for reasons why.
maximilyan
08-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Kakashi... hands down
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