Grimgor Ironhide vs Thrall

[A]

http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/grimgor/images/toppic.jpg

VS

http://www.wowar.com/pic/art/sos/samwise/warcraft/WarCraft_Samwise041c.jpg

[Timur Lane]

I would say that Grimgor takes this, he's way more feral than Thrall.

But i don't know much about Warcraft characters outside the games, i bet Thrall is really overpowerd in the novels and such.

[The Internet]

Thrall takes this

[Art of Run]

Thrall is a Shaman. Frost shock, Totems and a glowing hammer.

[Rice Ball]

Grimgor.
The orcs in warhammer are alot stronger than Warcraft.

[Gaelek_13]

Grimgor, the guy literally minces his way through entire armies just for fun and then goes off to wrestle a Troll to relax.

[Guy Gardner]

Grimgor iz da best.

That is friggin' canon, bitches.

[The Internet]

Grimgor.
The orcs in warhammer are alot stronger than Warcraft.

I give them that, but Thrall is far from an average Orc.

Besides this, his warhammer is enchanted, and he has an array of shaman spells to back himself up. If this was a magic-less fight, I would give it to Grimgor, but with magic, Thrall comes through this.

[Grandmaster Kane]

with magic - Thrall
withou- Grim in a rape fest

[Darklyre]

Thrall is nowhere near Orky enough to even think about fighting Grimgor.

[A]

If I´m not mistaken Orc´s in Warcraft are smart, in comperasion to their Warhammer counterpart, considering how the Orc´s in Warhammer have no long term plans and such.

Orc´s in Warhammer is born through mushroom spores which are within their body and releases when they die, or get a arm chopped off and so on, they are sexless, no males, no females.

Orc´s in Warcraft are like green cave men (Face it, they are far punier than Warhammer Orc´s and not as WAAAGH!) who uses magic´s, and breeds through well, the ordernary way.

[Rice Ball]

Well Orcs in warhammer use magic too...

infact there gods gork and mork pretty much get involved directly in battle (Foot of Gork spell... you have a template that looks like a giant foot...)

Alot of people know Thralls feats etc, but Grimgor smashed his way through a Empire AND Chaos army, smashed Archaon (one of the strongest people on the planet) beat him to an inch of his life, then yelled 'Grimgor iz da best!' then smashed is way through a Empire and chaos army and left the battlefield.

For info.. Archaon killed a Bloodthirster solo

[A]

There are smart orc´s in Warhammer shaman´s and such, but usually, it tends to be the goblin´s in the greenskins that becomes shaman´s.

[Birkin]

FOR THE HORDE!!!

[A]

It´s a bit unfair to use pre-alpha graphics against what is the real game.

We all know that pre-alpha will be a dozen times better in skins in graphic when it reaches beta, but I´ll give it a shot anyways.

http://www.warhammer-online.pl/attachment/file/37/normal/BlackOrc02.jpg
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/111706_02.jpg
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/may_05_09.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1381/0rcpo6.gif
http://home.cogeco.ca/~gcarlyle24/imperial.jpg
http://killermookie.org/images/WoW/WoW19.jpg

Even though Warhammer Online is only in pre-alpha mod it seems to look better.
Does anyone consider getting it?

[Orion]

Im quiting world of warcraft as soon as world of warhammer comes out.

[A]

Im quiting world of warcraft as soon as world of warhammer comes out.
Actually it´s Warhammer (Online): Age of Reckoning.

[Orion]

Meh whatever hehe,warhammer online looks and sounds like a very fun change from wow.

[Guy Gardner]

Warhammer Orcs (And Games Workshop Orc/k/s) in general aren't dumb, they're just direct, and they don't fear confrontation. We think they are stupid because they'll charge into withering gunfire, but that's because we can't do what they can so we judge it by our own experience.

[Art of Run]

Well Orcs in warhammer use magic too...

infact there gods gork and mork pretty much get involved directly in battle (Foot of Gork spell... you have a template that looks like a giant foot...)

Alot of people know Thralls feats etc, but Grimgor smashed his way through a Empire AND Chaos army, smashed Archaon (one of the strongest people on the planet) beat him to an inch of his life, then yelled 'Grimgor iz da best!' then smashed is way through a Empire and chaos army and left the battlefield.

For info.. Archaon killed a Bloodthirster solo

I change my mind.

[A]

Alot of people know Thralls feats etc, but Grimgor smashed his way through a Empire AND Chaos army, smashed Archaon (one of the strongest people on the planet) beat him to an inch of his life, then yelled 'Grimgor iz da best!' then smashed is way through a Empire and chaos army and left the battlefield.

For info.. Archaon killed a Bloodthirster solo
Well, Archaon had battled with Valten, and gotten his head smashed by Luthor Huss´ hammer, before Grimgor simply headsbutt him to defeat, it´s a cheap shot.

Archaon defeated a Bloodthirster, but barely--he had all those artifacts and blessed enchantment of Chaos, and he even had to release the Slayer of Kings (The daemon spirit in his sword) to banish the Bloodthirster.

[Fenix]

Actually it´s Warhammer (Online): Age of Reckoning.

Actually, World of Warhammer is pretty accurate


It´s a bit unfair to use pre-alpha graphics against what is the real game.

We all know that pre-alpha will be a dozen times better in skins in graphic when it reaches beta, but I´ll give it a shot anyways.

http://www.warhammer-online.pl/attachment/file/37/normal/BlackOrc02.jpg
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/111706_02.jpg
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/may_05_09.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1381/0rcpo6.gif
http://home.cogeco.ca/~gcarlyle24/imperial.jpg
http://killermookie.org/images/WoW/WoW19.jpg

Even though Warhammer Online is only in pre-alpha mod it seems to look better.
Does anyone consider getting it?

Well it better look better, it's practically a clone and it's 3.5 years after WoW came out


I have good hope for Warhammer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it fails to draw enough attention.

[A]

Actually, World of Warhammer is pretty accurate
No, it´s Warhammer (Online): Age of Reckoning, WAR in short, where have you been?

Well it better look better, it's practically a clone and it's 3.5 years after WoW came out

I have good hope for Warhammer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it fails to draw enough attention.
OK, so you do know absolutely nothing of the game.

Warcraft is based on Warhammer, not vice versa. And the game is made by Mythic entertainment. Who also created Dark Age of Camelot which came before WoW as well, and all the battle functions and such are based on Dark Age of Camelot, with major upgrades.

Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, are strictly restriced to stay within the Warhammer lore, so there are no crappy "filler" character or stories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwWn9a49JSQ&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvAznIRVLA&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ZqAS64Lg0

And for outselling Warcraft, well from what I´ve seen on their site, the amount of people that have signed up for the Beta, the amount of members on the forums, I say it´s more than likely that it will outsell Warcraft.
- Wrath of the Litch King (next expansion) will be the fall of Warcraft.

[Fenix]

No, it´s Warhammer (Online): Age of Reckoning, WAR in short, where have you been?

Wow you're really new at this aren't you



OK, so you do know absolutely nothing of the game.

Warcraft is based on Warhammer, not vice versa. And the game is made by Mythic entertainment. Who also created Dark Age of Camelot which came before WoW as well, and all the battle functions and such are based on Dark Age of Camelot, with major upgrades.

Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, are strictly restriced to stay within the Warhammer lore, so there are no crappy "filler" character or stories.

The history of the franchise are not relevant in this, what matters are the MMOs being discussed. WoW took stuff from every MMO and made it work. Can Warhammer do the same and go even further? Originality doesn't even matter, it's all about a good gaming experience.

Tell me something I don't know



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwWn9a49JSQ&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvAznIRVLA&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ZqAS64Lg0

And for outselling Warcraft, well from what I´ve seen on their site, the amount of people that have signed up for the Beta, the amount of members on the forums, I say it´s more than likely that it will outsell Warcraft.
- Wrath of the Litch King (next expansion) will be the fall of Warcraft.

Hey don't get me wrong now, I too hope it'll be more successful than WoW. I just don't think it's likely given the condition of the current market. One thing I do agree is that WoTL is not getting the hype that BC received.

The biggest mistake you're making is that thinking it will actually OUTSELL WoW, which already has an enormous amount of fanbase that no other MMO has had. Still, if Warhammer can "steal" even 30-40% of WoW's playerbase, it would be more than enough to call it a success.

Here's hoping that their marketing department is up to the task

[A]

Wow you're really new at this aren't you
Not really, no.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7220/warcg2.png

The history of the franchise are not relevant in this, what matters are the MMOs being discussed. WoW took stuff from every MMO and made it work. Can Warhammer do the same and go even further? Originality doesn't even matter, it's all about a good gaming experience.
From what I´ve seen, yes, in your point of perspective, I cannot tell.

Tell me something I don't know
There will be uniqe careers (classes) for every race.

Hey don't get me wrong now, I too hope it'll be more successful than WoW. I just don't think it's likely given the condition of the current market. One thing I do agree is that WoTL is not getting the hype that BC received.

The biggest mistake you're making is that thinking it will actually OUTSELL WoW, which already has an enormous amount of fanbase that no other MMO has had. Still, if Warhammer can "steal" even 30-40% of WoW's playerbase, it would be more than enough to call it a success
If Lord of the Rings gave WoW a run for their money, WAR will more than likely crush it, but all we can do is wait and see.
- I can tell though that everyone I know will leave Warcraft for Warhammer.

Oh I didn´t mean to sound offencive in my previous replay.

[Fenix]

If Lord of the Rings gave WoW a run for their money,

When did this happen? =\



- I can tell though that everyone I know will leave Warcraft for Warhammer.

.

People I know have all had this game for a long time, some have had it since open beta like me. Of course we all will be the first to jump the gun, it's the reason I know them and play with them in the first place, we think alike. But that's still only a small fraction of the WoW community. I think the chances of WAR completely dominating WoW are just too small.

If they do manage to take a good portion at the start and keep at it for 6 months, it might begin to shift into WAR's favorite. If the game isn't an initial success and fails to keep the hardcores who are the first to jump at it, the casuals won't be coming over at all. In the end it'll just be warhammer tabletop fanatics going at it all day.

[A]

When did this happen? =\
When they reached 4,5M subscribers in a month.

People I know have all had this game for a long time, some have had it since open beta like me. Of course we all will be the first to jump the gun, it's the reason I know them and play with them in the first place, we think alike. But that's still only a small fraction of the WoW community. I think the chances of WAR completely dominating WoW are just too small.

If they do manage to take a good portion at the start and keep at it for 6 months, it might begin to shift into WAR's favorite. If the game isn't an initial success and fails to keep the hardcores who are the first to jump at it, the casuals won't be coming over at all. In the end it'll just be warhammer tabletop fanatics going at it all day.
As I said, time will tell.

[Rice Ball]

Well, Archaon had battled with Valten, and gotten his head smashed by Luthor Huss´ hammer, before Grimgor simply headsbutt him to defeat, it´s a cheap shot.

Archaon defeated a Bloodthirster, but barely--he had all those artifacts and blessed enchantment of Chaos, and he even had to release the Slayer of Kings (The daemon spirit in his sword) to banish the Bloodthirster.

Yes, but he still had to fight his way through an army to headbutt Archaon, i know Archaon was weakened after defeating the best the Empire had to offer.

As for the bloodthurster, using the toys he has is a part of his character, also before the bloodthirster attacked him, he had trials from the 4 gods that would have sapped his will and stamina.. he wasn't again in top form but still beat the bloodthirster.

[Gaelek_13]

Well, Archaon had battled with Valten, and gotten his head smashed by Luthor Huss´ hammer, before Grimgor simply headsbutt him to defeat, it´s a cheap shot.

Archaon defeated a Bloodthirster, but barely--he had all those artifacts and blessed enchantment of Chaos, and he even had to release the Slayer of Kings (The daemon spirit in his sword) to banish the Bloodthirster.

He went through insanely difficult mental and physical trials that would push even a superhuman like him to beyond his limits, battling Daemons of Tzeentch, Slaanesh and Nurgle one after another without any breaks or time to heal before he fought the Bloodthirster and narrowly defeated it.

Archaon passed the trials that marked him as the mightiest Champion of Chaos in the world, nuff said.

Grimgor would win this fight if it came down to martial skill and that's that.