View Full Version : Spidey's Rogue Gallery vs Narutoverse
masamune1
08-13-2007, 05:09 PM
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, HydroMan, Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Vulture, Kingpin, Scorpion (pre-Venom), Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Chameleon, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Morlun, Commie Red Skull and the Jackal invade the Narutoverse.
Genjutsu is fully in effect. The Spidey-villains cannot dispel it any way other than injuring themselves. ALL villains are vulnerable to it. Also, Venom and Carnage are vulnerable to fire and sonics.
The villains are given three days to prepare, and a general outline of what this world is like and brief bio's on the ninja in it. The ninja know nothing other than they are about to be attacked by a group of supervillains.
Who wins?
Havoc
08-13-2007, 05:11 PM
It seems like you're leaving someone out...
masamune1
08-13-2007, 05:49 PM
It seems like you're leaving someone out...
Who is that?
Havoc
08-13-2007, 05:54 PM
Oh, ok I know, it's Morlun. Lol, took me forever to think of who was missing.
Although there are a lot more you missed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spider-Man_enemies
masamune1
08-13-2007, 06:14 PM
I'm surprised I forgot Morlu, since I actually intended to put him in.
But the rest don't matter. I'm not putting in all of his enemies.
EDIT: Ok. Morlun's there.
Havoc
08-13-2007, 06:32 PM
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, HydroMan, Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Grey Gargoyle, Scorpion (pre-Venom), Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Chameleon, Tombstone, Vermin, Morlun, Taskmaster, Speed Demon and Kaine.
These should be who you use.
masamune1
08-13-2007, 06:34 PM
^Hmm....
Tough.
Havoc
08-13-2007, 06:36 PM
They are going up against a whole world of fighters...people like Vulture aren't gonna be that much help.
EvilMoogle
08-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Curbstomp in favor of the Narutoverse (wow, there's something that isn't said very often).
It might take them a while to take out some of them, but eventually they would all fall. Don't even really need the genjutsu boost (but it would help against some).
I do think it would be entertaining to watch Rhino run rampant through the Narutoverse. They could take him down, but he'd do damage before they did (as would several of the others, most notably Carnage who would be quite messy).
Havoc
08-13-2007, 06:42 PM
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, HydroMan, Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Grey Gargoyle, Scorpion (pre-Venom), Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Chameleon, Tombstone, Vermin, Morlun, Taskmaster, Juggernaut, Speed Demon and Kaine.
Seriously, change it to these people. Oh and I added Juggs :drool
Orion
08-13-2007, 06:46 PM
Seriously, change it to these people. Oh and I added Juggs :drool
Even current juggs would kick the shit outta naruto chars.
Havoc
08-13-2007, 06:48 PM
Even current juggs would kick the shit outta naruto chars.
Not if they all ganged up on him. :(
Orion
08-13-2007, 06:50 PM
Not if they all ganged up on him. :(
I still think he would,not much attack wise is going to phase him.
Havoc
08-13-2007, 06:53 PM
According to this guy Tsunade might have a chance. lol
Well she at the least can lift 450+ tons being that Jiroubo lifted about 300+ tons with one hand, Chouji dwarfs him in strength and Tsunade is regarded to be stronger than these two
Blitzomaru
08-14-2007, 12:02 AM
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, HydroMan, Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Vulture, Kingpin, Scorpion (pre-Venom), Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Chameleon, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Morlun, Commie Red Skull and the Jackal invade the Narutoverse.
Genjutsu is fully in effect. The Spidey-villains cannot dispel it any way other than injuring themselves. ALL villains are vulnerable to it. Also, Venom and Carnage are vulnerable to fire and sonics.
The villains are given three days to prepare, and a general outline of what this world is like and brief bio's on the ninja in it. The ninja know nothing other than they are about to be attacked by a group of supervillains.
Who wins?
Well Sandman, Electro and HyroMan will cause the most damage. Sandamn can emrge with Gaara's sand and knock him out before he can take control of his body. HydroMan would beat most ninjas due to the fact that he can drown them or imprison them water prison jutsu style. Electro would beat most Joinins that would try to use wind elements against him instead of water. Carnage and vemon would run amuck, and Rhino would plow through the villages killim many fodder nin. Green Goblin would have ana erial advantage over most ninja. And Morlun feeds off of other's energies, so their attacks wouldn't hurt him. But they will eventually all fall due to the sheer numbers. I'd say Morlun, Hydroman and Sandman would be the last three standing, with morlun dying from the sandaime's death god jutsu or some other deus ex jutsu.
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, HydroMan, Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Morbius, Grey Gargoyle, Scorpion (pre-Venom), Kraven the Hunter, Rhino, Mysterio, Shocker, Chameleon, Tombstone, Vermin, Morlun, Taskmaster, Juggernaut, Speed Demon and Kaine.
Juggernaut changes the entire schema. Even though all are vulnerable to genjutsu, Juggernaut would be able to fend off the mental attacks as long as his helmet remains on. While he's too slow to tag a genin, his Area of Effect attacks (groundstomps, thunderclaps) would take out anyone in close range. He, Morlun, Sandman, Hydroman, Electro, Kaine, and possiby Morbius would be the only ones standing. This is all resting on the hopes that the Bijuu are not fighting as well.
Protect_The_Butter
08-14-2007, 12:06 AM
I thought Morlun could take strength from people he ate or something like that. Or was that somebody else.
Kazuma the Shell Bullet
08-14-2007, 12:06 AM
I still think he would,not much attack wise is going to phase him.
Fussinraegan destroys at the atomic level
Wiser Guy
08-14-2007, 12:06 AM
I'd like to see the Taskmaster face off against an Uchiha...
Regardless, the only thing that's really gonna work on the Juggernaut is getting Manda or Gamabunta to eat him, then sending the summon into another dimension.
masamune1
08-14-2007, 08:58 PM
I'd like to see the Taskmaster face off against an Uchiha...
Regardless, the only thing that's really gonna work on the Juggernaut is getting Manda or Gamabunta to eat him, then sending the summon into another dimension.
Or knock his helmet off and genjutsu him.
EvilMoogle
08-14-2007, 11:08 PM
Or knock his helmet off and genjutsu him.
No one in Naruto could get the helmet off classic Juggs.
Current Juggs would fall eventually in a physical fight, but current Juggs doesn't have the TP blocking helmet anyway.
Darklyre
08-14-2007, 11:20 PM
Even if they get the helmet off, Classic Juggernaut had a skullcap made of the same material on underneath.
masamune1
08-15-2007, 12:27 PM
No one in Naruto could get the helmet off classic Juggs.
Current Juggs would fall eventually in a physical fight, but current Juggs doesn't have the TP blocking helmet anyway.
A bunch of teenagers and a cripple have been doing that to him since the 60's. Trained ninja with superhuman speed should be more than capable of equaling this task, particularly since there is more of them.
PradaBrada
08-15-2007, 02:57 PM
Narutoverse wins in an epic curbstomp
Comic Book Guy
08-15-2007, 11:55 PM
Electro's the main turning point. He either loses pretty fast or takes out everyone.
Guy Gardner
08-16-2007, 12:13 AM
If you have Juggs, they'd do it just like Spider-Man did: Trap him underground. The Hidden Rock and the Hidden Leaf have dotons, and we've seen Shikamaru execute a technique that looked similar to what needs to be done here.
And put me behind the Narutoverse taking it. Too many, and too many powerful ninjas to stop.
Comic Book Guy
08-16-2007, 12:16 AM
C4 would be a great advantage to start of, indeed.
Guy Gardner
08-16-2007, 12:19 AM
I forgot about C4.
Sasori combined with Deidara would be a pretty ridiculous combo. 100 Puppet Army + C4 Garuda = fucking pwnage
Comic Book Guy
08-16-2007, 12:42 AM
Well, Electro could pull off an X-Man: manipulate the electric signals of the brain.
MitchellZaku
08-16-2007, 09:27 AM
Frankly as much as I like the Spidey villians, I think Sasori would solo at least half of them. It comes down to the fact that they fight good guys, guys who hold back, guys who throw them in jail. Everyone that can be killed by poison, would be dead quickly.
omg laser pew pew!
08-16-2007, 09:36 AM
Current Juggernaut is a sad sight indeed. I bet CMX is crying
G-Man
08-16-2007, 11:18 AM
The numbers of the Narutoverse bring down the Spidey villains hard. They'll do massive damage, but they are way too arrogant, and used to dealing with guys who don't try to kill them (or sucking up to the guys who are willing to kill them).
Morlun could only drain people who had an animalistic spirit totem, right? Or was that changed to him draining anyone?
I'm betting Gaara's sand manipulation (pre removal of Shukaku) trumps Sandman's control since I've never seen Sandman manipulate as much sand as Gaara did during the fight with Deidara, plus his sand manipulation comes from a powerful demon, not a freak accident of science.
Hydro-man is a threat, but he's stupid as hell, and that's gonna get him trapped in a genjutsu and attacking his own comrades.
The ninja rely too much on sneak attacks and attacks that are more subtle than just raw strength and frontal charges (well, except Naruto and a select few others, but they are the exception, not the rule).
Remember that Wolverine mini series where the ninja group, The Hand, was bumping off street-level bad guys and good guys left and right and using them as ressurected cannon fodder (and the Hand suck in general except for a few powerful members)? Yeah, it'd be like that but without the ressurection part.
Crimson Dragoon
08-16-2007, 11:56 AM
Well, Electro could pull off an X-Man: manipulate the electric signals of the brain.
If he's competent enough to think of it, that is.
G-Man
08-16-2007, 12:15 PM
If he's competent enough to think of it, that is.
Yeah, that huge power-up he got seems to have been forgotten.
Crimson Dragoon
08-16-2007, 12:46 PM
Exactly. Electro could be so much more than a mere Spidey rogue. He could be an Avenger level threat if his powers are used properly. I loved it when Electro was raping X-Man, but then got powered down to the same idiot, which sucks.
Havoc
08-16-2007, 04:23 PM
Morlun could only drain people who had an animalistic spirit totem, right? Or was that changed to him draining anyone?
Morlun could always drain anyone, they just don't sustain him like the spirit totem people.
Chocochip
08-17-2007, 01:33 AM
Jugg can be stopped with a Hell Swamp.
I say Jiraiya, Akatsuki, and Gaara can take it with ease. Summons rape here too.
MitchellZaku
08-17-2007, 09:38 AM
I would like to see Carnage against just about anyone in the Narutoverse, I think that he alone would be a massive player in the battle. Lately he's been played down, but back in the day he was an absolute beast, anyone remember Maximum Carnage? Granted teh second he stumbled across the sound village well...
masamune1
08-17-2007, 10:24 AM
The numbers of the Narutoverse bring down the Spidey villains hard. They'll do massive damage, but they are way too arrogant, and used to dealing with guys who don't try to kill them (or sucking up to the guys who are willing to kill them).
Morlun could only drain people who had an animalistic spirit totem, right? Or was that changed to him draining anyone?
I'm betting Gaara's sand manipulation (pre removal of Shukaku) trumps Sandman's control since I've never seen Sandman manipulate as much sand as Gaara did during the fight with Deidara, plus his sand manipulation comes from a powerful demon, not a freak accident of science.
Hydro-man is a threat, but he's stupid as hell, and that's gonna get him trapped in a genjutsu and attacking his own comrades.
The ninja rely too much on sneak attacks and attacks that are more subtle than just raw strength and frontal charges (well, except Naruto and a select few others, but they are the exception, not the rule).
Remember that Wolverine mini series where the ninja group, The Hand, was bumping off street-level bad guys and good guys left and right and using them as ressurected cannon fodder (and the Hand suck in general except for a few powerful members)? Yeah, it'd be like that but without the ressurection part.
Sandman can't even control Sand unless he's touching it, and even then only as an extension of his own body. Gaara in his prime is the God of all things Sandy.
Hydro-Man is'nt much of a threat when you consider Suiton users (since those jutsu need a Water source, and that is what he is) unles Suigetsu proves this theory wrong (and he might, but until then...). Genjustu does'nt depend on intelligence, since that would usually onlylet you know you are caught in one. Intelligent people can lose to it easily.
They don't actually rely on sneak attacks if they don't need to, and many are suited to all-out rampages if it comes to that (Kakuzu, Deidara, etc.). Their sneaking and subtelty, as you put it, bely the fact that they are very powerful.
The Naruto ninja are far, far more dangerous than the Hand, mainly because of their jutsu's and power (the highest, remember, are capable of taking out entire villages and even countries by themselves. The Hand were being assisted by HYDRA and the Dawn of the White Light, as well.
I would like to see Carnage against just about anyone in the Narutoverse, I think that he alone would be a massive player in the battle. Lately he's been played down, but back in the day he was an absolute beast, anyone remember Maximum Carnage? Granted teh second he stumbled across the sound village well...
A decent Genjutsu should be able to take him out, if Judas Traveller is anything to go by.
Morpheus
08-17-2007, 11:20 AM
Sandman can't even control Sand unless he's touching it, and even then only as an extension of his own body. Gaara in his prime is the God of all things Sandy.
Hydro-Man is'nt much of a threat when you consider Suiton users (since those jutsu need a Water source, and that is what he is) unles Suigetsu proves this theory wrong (and he might, but until then...). Genjustu does'nt depend on intelligence, since that would usually onlylet you know you are caught in one. Intelligent people can lose to it easily.
They don't actually rely on sneak attacks if they don't need to, and many are suited to all-out rampages if it comes to that (Kakuzu, Deidara, etc.). Their sneaking and subtelty, as you put it, bely the fact that they are very powerful.
The Naruto ninja are far, far more dangerous than the Hand, mainly because of their jutsu's and power (the highest, remember, are capable of taking out entire villages and even countries by themselves. The Hand were being assisted by HYDRA and the Dawn of the White Light, as well.
A decent Genjutsu should be able to take him out, if Judas Traveller is anything to go by.
Just a correction, it has already been proved that you don't need water to do Suiton jutsus, at Sandaime vs Oro fight the water hokage , i forgot his name, used them without water.
masamune1
08-17-2007, 11:23 AM
Just a correction, it has already been proved that you don't need water to do Suiton jutsus, at Sandaime vs Oro fight the water hokage , i forgot his name, used them without water.
That's only because he's a Hokage (he was Nidaime Hokage, meaning the Second, by the way). That is actually the fight where we first learned that you usually DO need a Water source, because the ANBU watching the fight mentioned how amazing it was that he could use that jutsu without said source.
Morpheus
08-17-2007, 01:10 PM
That's only because he's a Hokage (he was Nidaime Hokage, meaning the Second, by the way). That is actually the fight where we first learned that you usually DO need a Water source, because the ANBU watching the fight mentioned how amazing it was that he could use that jutsu without said source.
I know, my point is that if you are strong enough, you can do them without water.
masamune1
08-17-2007, 03:45 PM
I know, my point is that if you are strong enough, you can do them without water.
And since Hydro-Man IS water, he will be losing to Suiton-using weaklings.
Morpheus
08-17-2007, 03:49 PM
And since Hydro-Man IS water, he will be losing to Suiton-using weaklings.
Never said that he will :P
Havoc
08-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Wait, are you saying they could control Hydroman, because you have no proof that suggest they would have more control over his own body than he does.
Darklyre
08-17-2007, 04:05 PM
The argument that ninjas are somehow able to control elementals or are naturally stronger than non-ninjas (even superpowered non-ninjas) just because they're ninjas and have chakra is highly retarded.
masamune1
08-17-2007, 04:10 PM
To perform Water jutsu you (usually) need a Water source. No, they won't be able to control him, but I will be very annoying for him if they keep on reating all sorts of Water dragons, sharks, clone's etc. out of his own body.
Oh, I suppose he'll survive it, but most of the time a decent Water jutsu user would be able to defeat him in a fight, even if they can't kill him.
Banhammer
08-17-2007, 04:13 PM
Misterio uses Retcon no Jutsu, Konoha gets stormraped.
Juggernaut kills everione due lack psychics in narutoverse and the fact his helmet is on.
Banhammer
08-17-2007, 04:14 PM
I know, my point is that if you are strong enough, you can do them without water.
No, if your strong enough you can use it out of the moist in the air(aka iceman)
masamune1
08-17-2007, 04:19 PM
Misterio uses Retcon no Jutsu, Konoha gets stormraped.
Juggernaut kills everione due lack psychics in narutoverse and the fact his helmet is on.
Juggernaut is not in this match. Even if he was, a Genjutsu would stop him if they get his helmet off (which should'nt be too much trouble, really).
Banhammer
08-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Juggernaut is not in this match. Even if he was, a Genjutsu would stop him if they get his helmet off (which should'nt be too much trouble, really).
He's the Juggernaut, bitch!
So they would temporary stop him. They cannot kill him. They cannot trap him(such tech does no exist in naruverse) in a matter of time, juggs would win.
Comic Book Guy
08-17-2007, 07:14 PM
If he's competent enough to think of it, that is.
He did pull it off. Against X-Man, of all mutants.
Havoc
08-17-2007, 07:48 PM
To perform Water jutsu you (usually) need a Water source. No, they won't be able to control him, but I will be very annoying for him if they keep on reating all sorts of Water dragons, sharks, clone's etc. out of his own body.
Oh, I suppose he'll survive it, but most of the time a decent Water jutsu user would be able to defeat him in a fight, even if they can't kill him.
The point is he would have control over the water, so they wouldn't be doing shit with it.
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