luffy vs spiderman

[Sōsuke Aizen]

the battle takes place in new york city spiderman is bloodlusted so he will be chucking cars and willing to do anything to win and same goes for luffy, oh and spiderman doesnt know about the devil fruits users and there weakness agianst water

[Shuntensatsu]

Luffy curb stomps.

[Morpheus]

Luffy curb stomps.

Agreed :amuse

[Limit_Tester]

A better match from One Piece might have been Don Krieg.

[Iris]

Luffy stomps, but I think Krieg loses.

[Limit_Tester]

Luffy stomps, but I think Krieg loses.

Well I thought it would at least be a reasonable fight. Anyone past Krieg would pretty much destroy Spiderman. However, Krieg would definately have a shot at winning. Might be a good fight. It's at least worth debating.

[Iris]

Completely agreed.

[MdB]

Bloodlusted Luffy? This fight is over before I can blink.

[The Internet]

Buggy vs Spiderman would be better. Buggy is totally under estimated.

[Havoc]

Been done before

[Sōsuke Aizen]

so spiderman sense wouldnt help spidey at all?

[Iris]

so spiderman sense wouldnt help spidey at all?

Luffy attacks too fast for Spidey to keep up.

[martryn]

I hate to say this, but I agree. Luffy is a beast.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Luffy attacks too fast for Spidey to keep up.

do you have any idea how insane spidey spider sense is he can dodge machine guns and shit, are luffys punches faster than machine guns umm.... dont think so. I could post more feats but I am waiting for more people who dont know just how strong and insane spidey sense is and his other ablilties and also to everyone here please read wikipedia or some others source if you dont know about spidey's powers and abilities because then you will just end up makeing bias post and I can tell especially if you write luffy rapes, because if you really know spiderman you wouldnt write something like, not to mention spiderman is way smarter than luffy and is in new york city his own environment he could just web luffy's entire face and If I remember correcty luffy does need oxygen to live so......yeah

[Ceej17]

LUFFY by a long shot.

[Havoc]

do you have any idea how insane spidey spider sense is he can dodge machine guns and shit, are luffys punches faster than machine guns umm.... dont think so. I could post more feats but I am waiting for more people who dont know just how strong and insane spidey sense is and his other ablilties and also to everyone here please read wikipedia or some others source if you dont know about spidey's powers and abilities because then you will just end up makeing bias post and I can tell especially if you write luffy rapes, because if you really know spiderman you wouldnt write something like, not to mention spiderman is way smarter than luffy and is in new york city his own environment he could just web luffy's entire face and If I remember correcty luffy does need oxygen to live so......yeah

I heard he does.

[Limit_Tester]

do you have any idea how insane spidey spider sense is he can dodge machine guns and shit, are luffys punches faster than machine guns umm.... dont think so. I could post more feats but I am waiting for more people who dont know just how strong and insane spidey sense is and his other ablilties and also to everyone here please read wikipedia or some others source if you dont know about spidey's powers and abilities because then you will just end up makeing bias post and I can tell especially if you write luffy rapes, because if you really know spiderman you wouldnt write something like, not to mention spiderman is way smarter than luffy and is in new york city his own environment he could just web luffy's entire face and If I remember correcty luffy does need oxygen to live so......yeah

Yes actually.

Usually I wouldn't stop to explain why this isn't a curbstomp, but since you seem convinced otherwise, I'll give you some reasons as to why Spiderman loses badly.

1) Spiderman can't hurt Luffy. Rubber body, combined with insane durability nullifies any attacks that Spiderman can dish out.
2) Luffy travels at speeds multiple times that of the speed of sound and that is before Gear 2nd. He of course is able to punch at speeds greater than that.
3) Luffy was benching 700+ tons 200 chapters back and even able to punch with that weight attached to his arm. He now is probably in the 4k+ ton range.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Yes actually.

Usually I wouldn't stop to explain why this isn't a curbstomp, but since you seem convinced otherwise, I'll give you some reasons as to why Spiderman loses badly.

1) Spiderman can't hurt Luffy. Rubber body, combined with insane durability nullifies any attacks that Spiderman can dish out.
2) Luffy travels at speeds multiple times that of the speed of sound and that is before Gear 2nd. He of course is able to punch at speeds greater than that.
3) Luffy was benching 700+ tons 200 chapters back and even able to punch with that weight attached to his arm. He now is probably in the 4k+ ton range.



thats why I made this fight in new york city spidey is smart enough to think of something and again you fail to explain how luffy is going to land a hit with spidey's spider sense which is like 3 tomoe sharingan on steroids , but even if in some crazy luck way he landed a hit on spidey he could take it since he fights people like hulk and shit and can takes his hits and last time I remember in strength wise hulk > luffy in strength

[Iris]

Spiderman got hit by way slower people than Luffy.

Didn't you read what Limit Tester said about Luffy's attacking speed? Spiderman isn't dogding that, even with his Spider-sense.

Couple punches would do him in.

[Havoc]

Just wondering, where do you get Luffy is multiple speeds of sound?

[Iris]

Douriki calculations.

[Guy Gardner]

Kid, I'm not even a One Piece fan, but I'm going to fuck you up because you, like many people here, believe Spidey is some sort of God. He's not.

do you have any idea how insane spidey spider sense is he can dodge machine guns and shit,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Precognition. He knows where they are going to be and doesn't go there.

are luffys punches faster than machine guns umm.... dont think so.

They don't need to be. They are closer and they track, unlike bullets. For Spidey, punches have always been harder to avoid than bullets. Just look at him get knocked by dozens of different heroes and villains. The nature of a punch just makes it harder to avoid, and with Luffy's speed and sheer ability to throw dozens of punches in quick succession, Spidey doesn't have a chance.

I could post more feats but I am waiting for more people who dont know just how strong and insane spidey sense is

We've gone over it extensively in other threads, Donny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski#Main_characters). You're out of your element.

and his other ablilties and also to everyone here please read wikipedia or some others source if you dont know about spidey's powers and abilities because then you will just end up makeing bias

Blah blah blah... Trust me, we run into you people all the time. Trust me, Limit Tester is being nice to you right now. While they do have some bias towards One Piece, they back it up with calculations and facts.

post and I can tell especially if you write luffy rapes,

If I remember some of the calculations correctly, he can move at Super-sonic speeds. That alone should fuck over Spidey, without mentioning his ridiculous strength, durability, and rubber-man powers.

because if you really know spiderman you wouldnt write something like,

If you really knew Spider-Man, you'd know that he isn't invincible. He's a fantastic street-level hero. But he isn't much beyond that. Get over it.

not to mention spiderman is way smarter than luffy

That's a fair assumption, but gap between them is too big to cross with just intelligence. That, and from what I've seen, Luffy isn't blatantly dumb in combat, just childish.

and is in new york city his own environment

This is true, but it's often overrated. It's not as if he has the city memorized and can use every fire escape and ledge to his advantage. It just allows him to take advantage of most of his powers. I mean, most of the time when you take Spider-Man out of the city, it takes away a lot of his advantages (Web-slinging, wall-crawling, etc...).

he could just web luffy's entire face

He'd need to hit him first.

and If I remember correcty luffy does need oxygen to live

Well, I'm fairly sure this is correct.

so......yeah

You should look into things like punctuation (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/07/07) and grammar (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/11/03).

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Spiderman got hit by way slower people than Luffy.

Didn't you read what Limit Tester said about Luffy's attacking speed? Spiderman isn't dogding that, even with his Spider-sense.

Couple punches would do him in.

do you know anything about spiderman? read this and make sure to read the spider sense part than maybe you will get it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man%27s_powers_and_equipment#Spider-sense

[Guy Gardner]

do you know anything about spiderman? read this and make sure to read the spider sense part than maybe you will get it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man%27s_powers_and_equipment#Spider-sense

It's precog, and bullets follow a linear path; move out of the way, and there isn't a chance that bullet is hitting you. Punches can be directed and track; they adjust, unlike bullets. He gets punched a lot, by people much slower than Luffy (And, consequently, a lot slower than bullets as well).

[Havoc]

He seriously shouldn't get hit by a lot of ppl that he does get hit by though.

[Iris]

do you know anything about spiderman? read this and make sure to read the spider sense part than maybe you will get it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man%27s_powers_and_equipment#Spider-sense

I don't read wikipedia and I probably know about Spidey more than you do.

If you really knew him that well, you wouldn't put him up against Luffy moron.

[Guy Gardner]

He seriously shouldn't get hit by a lot of ppl that he does get hit by though.

Even if you take out a lot of them, though, I don't think I can cite one that would be considered a 'speedster'. Personally, I don't see it being too out there for him to get hit by Daredevil, who is reasonably fast and a great hand-to-hand combatant.

People have to realize that fighting something that can think and direct and guide its blows is much different than dodging things that follow a purely linear path.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

I don't read wikipedia and I probably know about Spidey more than you do.

If you really knew him that well, you wouldn't put him up against Luffy moron.

no acutally you dont cause if you did you would know he has faced much worse than luffy and can and will beat him but you know what is funny you have not explained in details just how luffy is going to win all you say is that luffy is gonna win and not explain. why dont you prove it rather than call me childish names like "moron".

[Havoc]

Even if you take out a lot of them, though, I don't think I can cite one that would be considered a 'speedster'. Personally, I don't see it being too out there for him to get hit by Daredevil, who is reasonably fast and a great hand-to-hand combatant.

People have to realize that fighting something that can think and direct and guide its blows is much different than dodging things that follow a purely linear path.

I do, Spidey is faster than Daredevil, more agile, has his spider sense, and was trained by Cap to fight. If boxers can predict punches, I'm sure Spidey knows how with Caps training, and add that to his other advantages and DD shouldn't be punching Spidey.

[martryn]

Just wondering, where do you get Luffy is multiple speeds of sound?

While I agree that Luffy wins, this here is probably just more One Piece hype from fans who whack it to pics of Luffy whist sniffing rubber erasers.

[Orion]

And I thought we were rid of martryn forever.

[Pipboy]

Wait Martryn, I thought we cured the battle dome of that.

[martryn]

You guys ever think you go a little crazy with all the One Piece fervor? Especially since this is a Naruto forum and there are plenty of active One Piece forums you could join.

[Guy Gardner]

I do, Spidey is faster than Daredevil, more agile, has his spider sense, and was trained by Cap to fight. If boxers can predict punches, I'm sure Spidey knows how with Caps training, and add that to his other advantages and DD shouldn't be punching Spidey.

I suppose I'll just disagree. I don't see Spidey being that far above Daredevil that Daredevil couldn't get a punch on him, even with Spider-Sense. But this isn't exactly the thread for it.

At any rate, I still don't see him being so fast that all the people who punch him represent freak occurrences. I simply think people over-estimate Spidey's capabilities.

Edit: I foresee this thread quickly degenerating into stupidity and flames. A mod might want to consider either closely watching or just closing this thread now before it gets out-of-hand.

[Limit_Tester]

While I agree that Luffy wins, this here is probably just more One Piece hype from fans who whack it to pics of Luffy whist sniffing rubber erasers.

My sexual proclivities are my own business, thank you very much.

@Havoc
Just check my threads made for more details.

[Suzumebachi]

I hate to say this, but I agree. Luffy is a beast.

Gasp! Martryn is...right!:omg:omg

[Havoc]

I'm not saying all, I just don't think people like Daredevil or Wolverine should be getting consistent hits on him.

And this thread is pretty pointless anyway...he's not beating luffy

[Iris]

no acutally you dont cause if you did you would know he has faced much worse than luffy and can and will beat him but you know what is funny you have not explained in details just how luffy is going to win all you say is that luffy is gonna win and not explain. why dont you prove it rather than call me childish names like "moron".

Jobber much?

I didn't explain because Limit Tester and JAR already did, you fail again.

[Pipboy]

You guys ever think you go a little crazy with all the One Piece fervor? Especially since this is a Naruto forum and there are plenty of active One Piece forums you could join.

Arlong Park doesn't have a battledome.

[Suzumebachi]

oh yeah and that will help to prove your argument real well saying the grammer and shit

This will help your argument too.

EDIT: Aw fuck, I made this three pages.

[Phenomenol]

I do, Spidey is faster than Daredevil, more agile, has his spider sense, and was trained by Cap to fight. If boxers can predict punches, I'm sure Spidey knows how with Caps training, and add that to his other advantages and DD shouldn't be punching Spidey.

Yeah I know, His spider sense should allow him to dodge almost anything. Spidey consistently being tagged most of the time overrides his spider sense.

With that said I take Luffy. In One Piece Yellow; Gear 2 attacks are damn near "invisible." Bullets and machine guns are not invisisble.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

"Kid, I'm not even a One Piece fan, but I'm going to fuck you up because you, like many people here, believe Spidey is some sort of God. He's not."

I now he is not I am just saying that spidey will not bet raped

"Welcome to the wonderful world of Precognition. He knows where they are going to be and doesn't go there."

and that statment is going to help luffy how?


"They don't need to be. They are closer and they track, unlike bullets. For Spidey, punches have always been harder to avoid than bullets. Just look at him get knocked by dozens of different heroes and villains. The nature of a punch just makes it harder to avoid, and with Luffy's speed and sheer ability to throw dozens of punches in quick succession, Spidey doesn't have a chance."

first of all spidey dodges speedsters ? second of all spidey has agility necessary to dodge those punches. third all name some heroes and villians that have got him in those so called punches you say. fourth of all again spidey has the agility and speed to dodge or the smarts to do a back flip and get the fuck away from them



"We've gone over it extensively in other threads, Donny. You're out of your element."

I find that hard to believe because if you had then you wouldnt even try to argue against spidey

"Blah blah blah... Trust me, we run into you people all the time. Trust me, Limit Tester is being nice to you right now. While they do have some bias towards One Piece, they back it up with calculations and facts."

not so far nothing anyone has said have any "calculations and facts"


"If I remember some of the calculations correctly, he can move at Super-sonic speeds. That alone should fuck over Spidey, without mentioning his ridiculous strength, durability, and rubber-man powers."

when has luffy moved in super sonic speed? give me the episode or the chapter because so far unless you prove it your calculations will not be enough

"If you really knew Spider-Man, you'd know that he isn't invincible. He's a fantastic street-level hero. But he isn't much beyond that. Get over it."

"invincible"? i never said that and spiderman fights hulk and iron level people not to mention he has enemys like Dormammu who has Virtually unlimited magical powers


"That's a fair assumption, but gap between them is too big to cross with just intelligence. That, and from what I've seen, Luffy isn't blatantly dumb in combat, just childish."


but spiderman is the type to use that to his advantage and read his opponets

"This is true, but it's often overrated. It's not as if he has the city memorized and can use every fire escape and ledge to his advantage. It just allows him to take advantage of most of his powers. I mean, most of the time when you take Spider-Man out of the city, it takes away a lot of his advantages (Web-slinging, wall-crawling, etc...)."

true I will give you that one but thats why I gave spiderman the environment advantage because I know luffy is one strong ass dude



"He'd need to hit him first."

no he could just hide somewhere or stay up in a dark place and web him from a distance





"You should look into things like punctuation and grammar. "

oh yeah and that will help to prove your argument real well saying the grammer and shit

[Havoc]

Manuelli, don't think your post could be more confusing...

[Suzumebachi]

How much of One Piece have you seen?

[Iris]

How much of One Piece have you seen?

Uhm...zero?

[Sōsuke Aizen]

is deathscythe jokeing he has not seen anything in One Piece, then why the hell are you even posting?

[Iris]

I was talking about you, comprehension isn't your strong point as it seems.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

I was talking about you, comprehension isn't your strong point as it seems.

look I already told you how i think spiderman would win quit talking shit and just give a reasonable response to how luffy would win

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Manuelli, don't think your post could be more confusing...

I was just focusing on what was said by justice and rule before, check it out in page 2

[Iris]

look I already told you how i think spiderman would win quit talking shit and just give a reasonable response to how luffy would win

Guess I'll have to repeat myself.

Limit Tester and JAR ALREADY EXPLAINED IT TO YOU.

Do I have to fucking repeat it again, what they said?

Or are you simply that retarded that you didn't understand what they said?

[Phenomenol]

Looks like Deathscythe doesn't even know what they said.

[Iris]

Okay, Phenomenol, you're right like always.

[thegoodjae]

Why do you wondering. Luffy attacks at a rate of multiples faster than a gun. Spidey has to concentrate to catch one bullet. He can only "dodge" them, due to a gunmens lack of accuracy or reaction time. Luffy can move so fast to where he dissapears out of sight OF people who can do dissapear out of sight. Luffy has enough strength to punch someone so far that they land on another island. He is durable to the point of being able to take attacks that can break ships in half.

Spidey actually got hurt by Dare Devil. LOL.

[EvilMoogle]

I am a Spider-man fanboy and I think he loses this *shrugs*.

My take on it is that current Spidey wins against pre-gear-2 Luffy, but loses after that point. But I'll leave quietly before the OP crowd gets restless :P

The only chance Spidey would have in this arrangement is if for some reason he started far enough away from Luffy and retreated to get a McGuffin while Luffy searched New York for him.

[Havoc]

Why do you wondering. Luffy attacks at a rate of multiples faster than a gun. Spidey has to concentrate to catch one bullet. He can only "dodge" them, due to a gunmens lack of accuracy or reaction time. Luffy can move so fast to where he dissapears out of sight OF people who can do dissapear out of sight. Luffy has enough strength to punch someone so far that they land on another island. He is durable to the point of being able to take attacks that can break ships in half.

Spidey actually got hurt by Dare Devil. LOL.

When did Daredevil really hurt Spiderman. Yes he's hit him, but I don't remember Spiderman being hurt.

[Iris]

lol Luffy would destroy NY to find Spidey assuming he's bloodlusted.

[Limit_Tester]

I am a Spider-man fanboy and I think he loses this *shrugs*.

My take on it is that current Spidey wins against pre-gear-2 Luffy, but loses after that point. But I'll leave quietly before the OP crowd gets restless :P

The only chance Spidey would have in this arrangement is if for some reason he started far enough away from Luffy and retreated to get a McGuffin while Luffy searched New York for him.

Not so fast. Luffy still destroys Spiderman without any gears.

[Havoc]

Luffy kills innocent people?

[Suzumebachi]

Luffy kills innocent people?
He beats them up.

[Zephos]

Spidey sense for all intents and purposes would seem to be weaker than mantra, ergo it really means shit all in this fight.

[Havoc]

Explain this mantra to me. You're talking about Enel right?

[Limit_Tester]

Luffy kills innocent people?

Not a problem if he doesn't like them. He is the definition of sociopath.

[Suzumebachi]

Spidersense is better because it alerts you to all danger.

Enel couldn't predict the Octo Fireworks.

[Havoc]

Not a problem if he doesn't like them. He is the definition of sociopath.

How would he know he likes them?

[Phenomenol]

Okay, Phenomenol, you're right like always.

Don't you ever forget it.

[Suzumebachi]

How would he know he likes them?

If they get in his way.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Why do you wondering. Luffy attacks at a rate of multiples faster than a gun. Spidey has to concentrate to catch one bullet. He can only "dodge" them, due to a gunmens lack of accuracy or reaction time. Luffy can move so fast to where he dissapears out of sight OF people who can do dissapear out of sight. Luffy has enough strength to punch someone so far that they land on another island. He is durable to the point of being able to take attacks that can break ships in half.

Spidey actually got hurt by Dare Devil. LOL.

you see If spiderman relied on eye sight I would agree but he doesnt, the minute luffy decides to attack spiderman will know and get out the way and when has it been STATED that luffy punches are faster than a machine guns

[Havoc]

What if they offer him some food, but it turns out it's been poisoned by Spiderman. Would Spiderman win then?

[Iris]

Don't you ever forget it.

It's already history.

@Manuelli: You're lucky I'm out of rep, I was going to neg you.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Guess I'll have to repeat myself.

Limit Tester and JAR ALREADY EXPLAINED IT TO YOU.

Do I have to fucking repeat it again, what they said?

Or are you simply that retarded that you didn't understand what they said?

okay then now you listen mutha fucker I dont give a shit about what they said I want to know what kind of explaination you would say, get now bitch

[Iris]

hahaha, you would go this far to ignore other people's opinions, what are you doing here then anyway, if you don't care? Seriously, gtfo.

@Havoc: Luffy is immune to poison.

[Zephos]

okay then now you listen mutha fucker I dont give a shit about what they said I want to know what kind of explaination you would say.

Are you retarded or something? He's saying what they're saying is why Luffy wins.
Having him say it himself is fucking redundant.

Stop trying to act tough and stop making horrible rapestomps.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

hahaha, you would go this far to ignore other people's opinions, what are you doing here then anyway, if you don't care? Seriously, gtfo.

@Havoc: Luffy is immune to poison.

I am not ignoring anyone I just think that you dont know what the fuck your talking about and trying to hide behind people

[Iris]

Wow, I thought you were more intelligent, seems like you're retarded after all.

Anyone with half a brain would be able to figure it out, you however didn't.

Me hiding behind other people? No silly, if I don't know about certain characters then I wouldn't bother posting at all, you on the other hand didn't read OP, so whatever the fuck you say is considered failure in purest form.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Are you retarded or something? He's saying what they're saying is why Luffy wins.
Having him say it himself is fucking redundant.

Stop trying to act tough and stop making horrible rapestomps.

omg, look listen what the other people said isnt even all that covinceing I replyed back to all of them and told them why I thought they were wrong, I am not ignoring anyone

[Iris]

This coming from a guy who doesn't read OP, instead browses through wiki lulz.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Wow, I thought you were more intelligent, seems like you're retarded after all.

Anyone with half a brain would be able to figure it out, you however didn't.

Me hiding behind other people? No silly, if I don't know about certain characters then I wouldn't bother posting at all, you on the other hand didn't read OP, so whatever the fuck you say is considered failure in purest form.

how would you know if I read it or not

[Zephos]

you see If spiderman relied on eye sight I would agree but he doesnt, the minute luffy decides to attack spiderman will know and get out the way

Thats pure no limits fallacy.

[Zephos]

how would you know if I read it or not

Well have you?

[Sōsuke Aizen]

This coming from a guy who doesn't read OP, instead browses through wiki lulz.

dog just shut the fuck up cuss you dont know me, you wouldnt know what I read so just shut up.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

Thats pure no limits fallacy.

spiderman was once blind and still beat his enemys

[Havoc]

Guys, calm down. This is a battle between 2 fictional characters, it's not that important to get mad over.

[Iris]

how would you know if I read it or not

1. You wouldn't make this thread if you read OP.
2. You post wiki links about abilities even though people already know them.
3. You didn't answer Suzumebachi's question.
4. Because I said so and you know it's true.

[Zephos]

spiderman was once blind and still beat his enemys

Your point?

[Suzumebachi]

You're right. We don't know what you read.

Do you read One Piece?

[Pipboy]

How would he know he likes them?

If he meets and forms a relationship with them. In Alabasta Luffy was more than willing to see a million die in civil war. He only really cared that Vivi was being hurt by the deaths.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

1. You wouldn't make this thread if you read OP.
2. You post wiki links about abilities even though people already know them.
3. You didn't answer Suzumebachi's question.
4. Because I said so and you know it's true.

1. I only post wikipedia links about spiderman dumbass
2.yess acutally I did but only up to where luffy beat crocodile to be truthful
3. again YOU DONT KNOW ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Guy Gardner]

I now he is not I am just saying that spidey will not bet raped

He will, though. He doesn't have anything that will take Luffy down, and Luffy has all the tools to take HIM down.

and that statment is going to help luffy how?

The fact that he doesn't dodge bullets, he just knows not to get in front of them. When you say "OMG HE CAN DODGE BULLETS!" you have to understand that the mechanism that drives it means that he's not "dodging" bullets as much as he's "staying in the safe zone".

first of all spidey dodges speedsters ?

Are you questioning yourself? Spidey gets hit by people much slower than Luffy. Whatever you think his speed is, subsonic, transonic, supersonic, he's faster than most Marvel character that hit Spidey.

second of all spidey has agility necessary to dodge those punches.

Agility doesn't mean anything when someone is punching you before you can complete your second move. He's not fast enough to avoid all the punches of people who are much slower than Luffy. Luffy WILL hit him.

third all name some heroes and villians that have got him in those so called punches you say.

I should just link you to the Sasuke vs. Spider-Man thread, but lemme see if I can remember them all. Note: These are all basically during the Civil War and immediately thereafter.

1) Captain America.
2) Iron Man, multiple times.
3) Rhino.
4) Venom, Lady Deathstrike, and someone else I can't remember right now.
5) Hand Ninjas.
6) Elloe the Warbound.
7) Daredevil.
8) Komodo

That's basically in the last year or so. Being as I don't follow Spider-Man as much as I follow Ultimate Spider-Man, I could probably find more if I really looked into it.

fourth of all again spidey has the agility and speed to dodge or the smarts to do a back flip and get the fuck away from them

You just repeated #2. He doesn't have the speed. He moves faster than a peak human, yes. But he's not ridiculously fast. Luffy IS ridiculously fast.

I find that hard to believe because if you had then you wouldnt even try to argue against spidey

Read: "Those are good burgers, Walter."

I've argue this entire thing before for someone who is slower (At least, from what we can discern at the moment), not as strong, and not nearly as tough.

not so far nothing anyone has said have any "calculations and facts"

I'm sure someone will be as kind to direct you to them.

But the fact of the matter is, against your very crappy argument, writing them out really isn't necessary. You are touting things about Spider-Man you don't yourself seem to understand. The fact of the matter is that I've gone through this in a half dozen threads already. Havoc, Limit Tester, Pipboy, and others know this, because I argued against them in the last one, and they brought scans. We ALL seem to agree, except for you, and you seem content to bash your head against the wall repeating "Spidey-Sense" without even trying to understand what's against you.

Simply put, I'm playing down to my competition. Give me a real argument, and I might actually take you seriously. But until then, let's keep playing with the kiddie gloves, because I'm not in the mood to beat on a 12-year old.

when has luffy moved in super sonic speed? give me the episode or the chapter because so far unless you prove it your calculations will not be enough

Limit Tester, could you post the link to your thread? Battledome should really consider a "Feats" Subforum, where we can have dozens of threads that are just devoted to feats that we could easily access. C'est la vie, though.

"invincible"? i never said that and spiderman fights hulk and iron level people

And loses. Miserably.

Just thought to add that in there.

not to mention he has enemys like Dormammu who has Virtually unlimited magical powers

When you say "He", you must mean Dr. Strange, because Dormammu isn't Spider-Man's enemy. Dormammu doesn't sit back and think "How can I get Spider-Man today!" He might attack Spider-Man to get to Dr. Strange, but he's certainly not what you'd define as an 'enemy' (Or perhaps a better way to put it, a 'regular enemy') of Spider-Man.

but spiderman is the type to use that to his advantage and read his opponets

Intelligence can only take you so far, and then you need the goods to back it up. Shikamaru is a genius, but when he's going up against Drax the Destroyer, he doesn't have a chance in hell, no matter how much smarter he is. The fact of the matter is that Luffy's strength, speed, and durability are on such a different level that Spider-Man doesn't have a chance. Not at all.

true I will give you that one but thats why I gave spiderman the environment advantage because I know luffy is one strong ass dude

Again, it's not as much an "environment advantage" as much as it lets Spider-Man do what he normally does. It doesn't make him any weaker.

no he could just hide somewhere or stay up in a dark place and web him from a distance

Oh God, let's not go there. At any rate, he's apparently bench-pressed 200 tons (I'll trust Limit Tester, he seems to know what he's talking about... unless it's Quicksilver :amuse :P ). You only need to be class 15-20 ("Only need to be... talk about relative) to rip off the webbing. You web his mouth, and he'll tear it right off, and he's not going to stand still after that. It's a losing strategy.

oh yeah and that will help to prove your argument real well saying the grammer and shit

Well, grammar and punctuation will help your argument immensely by making it easier for people to understand your ideas and concepts. It may not actually improve the actual idea, but explaining your conclusions is half the battle. So you should definitely consider it, because frankly you write/ramble the same way a drunken hobo talks about "the War".

Also, look into quoting (http://forums.narutofan.com/misc.php?do=bbcode#quote). And stop double posting. Either edit, or wait until someone else posts. It's irritating and against forum rules.

[Zephos]

What is Gear2 Manuelli?

[Limit_Tester]

714 tons was the precise number, but again that was back at Skypiea. Of course, most people can appreciate some of his more recent feats:
http://mangarun.com/one_piece/one_piece_363/One_Piece-363-14-15.png

And speed of course:
http://forums.narutofan.com:80/showthread.php?t=184491

[Sōsuke Aizen]

What is Gear2 Manuelli?

again I already said I only read up to crocodile defeat but thats why I go to others soucres to know all the characters powers and abilities and gear 2 is basically where he gets a boost in strength and speed but he can only use it for a short period of time

[Iris]

1. I only post wikipedia links about spiderman dumbass
2.yess acutally I did but only up to where luffy beat crocodile to be truthful
3. again YOU DONT KNOW ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

1. That's very convincing.
2. Okay, then you should stop debating here, RIGHT NOW.
3. Your the type that possess half a brain and problems with reading.


lol, I guessed it correctly that he browsed through wiki for Luffy.

[MdB]

So you basically made a judgement about Luffy... Before catching up. Yeah, that is really smart of you.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

:notrust 1. That's very convincing.
2. Okay, then you should stop debating here, RIGHT NOW.
3. Your the type that possess half a brain and problems with reading.


lol, I guessed it correctly that he browsed through wiki for Luffy.

I am going to say this for the last time and then I am leaving this thread alone because you are right I dont know all about one piece, YOU DONT KNOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP you wouldnt know if I could read or not or any of that shit so shut the fuck up.:P

[Iris]

lol okay, that means Luffy wins.

[Guy Gardner]

because you are right I dont know all about one piece,

You say this, and then...

YOU DONT KNOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

... say this. Do you see the contradiction in what you just said?:huh

[Zephos]

Massive Fail.

[Iris]

lol what to expect from some1 who won the dumbest thread maker award.

[MdB]

:notrust

I am going to say this for the last time and then I am leaving this thread alone because you are right I dont know all about one piece, YOU DONT KNOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP you wouldnt know if I could read or not or any of that shit so shut the fuck up.:P

Man, you're funny....

[Havoc]

I will be happy when Spiderman finally divulges the truth that throughout his entire career he has been using only 25% of his max power.

[Limit_Tester]

I will be happy when Spiderman finally divulges the truth that throughout his entire career he has been using only 25% of his max power.

Can't say that would help much for this fight.

[Guy Gardner]

I will be happy when Spiderman finally divulges the truth that throughout his entire career he has been using only 25% of his max power.

That'd be fucking awesome.

"In fact, Tony... I'm not even in my final form!"

*Creates Deathball to destroy the planet*

[Havoc]

Lol, or Super Saiyan Spiderman.


Then Phenom would be one of his biggest supporters.

[Phenomenol]

No, I wouldn't.

[Havoc]

No, I wouldn't.

Shut up, yes you would.

[Phenomenol]

No, man I won't. I am above the influence. I have taken D. A. R. E. classes.

[Havoc]

Listen Phenom, all the cool kids would back Spiderman, don't you wanna be cool?

[Suzumebachi]

I'd back Spiderman.

[Tash]

Spider-man causes cancer :oh

[Suzumebachi]

If you have sex with him.

[Zephos]

Spider-man causes cancer :oh

Luffy takes advantage of his rubber body and pops the tumour out of his ass.

Than he beats it up.

[Phenomenol]

Listen Phenom, all the cool kids would back Spiderman, don't you wanna be cool?

Nah, I am bold enough to overcome peer pressure (over th internet) LOL.