Itachi (without MS/genjutsu) vs Hiashi/Hizashi & Neji

[TWF]

Can the current Clan Head of the Hyuuga Clan, his equally talented twin brother and the greatest prodigy and genius produced from the Hyuuga Clan defeat the prodigy of the Uchiha? Itachi does not have MS and can not use genjutsu. He is limited to only ninjutsu and taijutsu only.

[Hamaru]

With no MS or Genjutsu, im sure Hiashi would beat Itachi down.

[Keyser Söze]

3 on 1, and itachi has a major handicap, lol hyuuga boys win this one.

[TWF]

And if Itachi was allowed his genjutsu ability but the MS was still barred from use...?

[Keyser Söze]

it's tough, he'd probably put up quite a fight, but he'd lose eventually. before anyone jumps all over me, this is in response to the white fangs post above me....

[Hamaru]

And if Itachi was allowed his genjutsu ability but the MS was still barred from use...?

We still don't know if genjutsu would work on the Byakugan.

[Euraj]

We still don't know if genjutsu would work on the Byakugan.Genjutsu works against everyone, just not as effectively against certain people. Nevertheless, the Hyuuga apparently have very keen chakra control so I'm sure they would be able to handle Itachi's standard Genjutsu; esp. considering there are three of them.

[TWF]

It is up for grabs although personally I still don't see it working on the Byakugan simply by the sheer amount of chakra that can counter sight based genjutsu because of it pumping into the Hyuuga Kekke Genkai doujutsu.

And even if he did have genjutsu and does use it, the Hyuuga have prep on it. They can certainly avoid looking at the Sharingan itself...

[Hamaru]

Im sure the Hyuuga clan knows how the sharingan works since it came from the byaakugan Orgin. All they would have to do is focus their chakra to their eyes in a time of genjutsu and im sure they would be okay.

[durtycheese]

itachi wins, if he can use hsi genjutsu.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

Now I am glad that I see lots of people other than me with knowledge of Hyuuga clan..(except for one..)

Without MS + Genjutsu... Ultra Pawnage for Hyuuga...

Without MS but with Genjutsu... Mega Pawnage for Hyuuga...

With MS & Genjutsu... Super Pawnage for Hyuuga...

Note ---> It's three one...

1st situation ---> there's no need to mention it specially since in this state, Itachi dun have genjutsu & MS, & Itachi will lose to Hiashi alone as he has Kaiten & palms... It will be most likely 1-hit KO as we saw how head ninja of cloud died & Kaiten knocking out many shinobis...


2nd situation ---> Hyuuga will be able to cancel it out due to their KG & intellect level.. Even if ya assume one of Hyuuga is effected by Genjutsu, then another one can dispel it easily while the last one can attack Itachi from behind...

3rd situation ---> It's three-one, so even if Tsukoyomi did two on hyuuga.. The last one will take on exhausted Itachi...


(Ps - I maxed Itachi's fighting abilities this time.. But since it's max, there's no way to go further than this.. If ya do, Itachi will be god..) :laugh

[Keyser Söze]

Im sure the Hyuuga clan knows how the sharingan works since it came from the byaakugan Orgin. All they would have to do is focus their chakra to their eyes in a time of genjutsu and im sure they would be okay.

why would they know? if the hyuuga clan kept a tight lid on how the bayakugen worked then why do you assume that the uchiha's wouldn't do the same. even if it was a by-product of the bayakugen that doesn't mean that the hyuuga knew the properties of sharingan. besides, the uchiha clan was established for a very long time, whatever prior knowledge was probably lost through generations if they knew anything at all. just because sharingan was born from bayakugen doesn't mean instantly bayakugen users know how the sharingan works. there isn't any proof that the hyuuga's know more than the mere name, sharingan. No argument should be made that hyuuga's know about how sharingan works. it's just really stupid to assume it, because 1, there isn't any proof at all what so ever, 2, sharingan doesn't develop over night, it was born from bayakugen and became independant from it, 3, nobody knows about MS except for a select few. i can't believe i'm the one who's defending the uchihas..... :sigh jeez.... i sound like a fucking fanboy.... :cry

[TWF]

The Sharingan's useage by the Uchiha weren't a clan defended secret, the Mangekyou Sharingan was. The Byakugan's abilities even as a doujutsu was generally a very guarded secret for the Hidden Leaf Village and the Hyuuga Clan.

There is no reason to say that with the interaction between the Uchiha and Hyuuga Clans that aside from the MS, they don't know anything of the Sharingan.

If enemy ninjas already know everything about the Sharingan's abilites ie it's copying and mimicry technique, genjutsu and hypnosis as well as Foresight and predication, then the Hyuuga would know it as well.

[Keyser Söze]

The Sharingan's useage by the Uchiha weren't a clan defended secret, the Mangekyou Sharingan was. The Byakugan's abilities even as a doujutsu was generally a very guarded secret for the Hidden Leaf Village and the Hyuuga Clan.

There is no reason to say that with the interaction between the Uchiha and Hyuuga Clans that aside from the MS, they don't know anything of the Sharingan.

If enemy ninjas already know everything about the Sharingan's abilites ie it's copying and mimicry technique, genjutsu and hypnosis as well as Foresight and predication, then the Hyuuga would know it as well.

this is all after the clan was wipped out..... how do we know definitively that enemies knew this before kakashi made it famous. the reason why a lot of shinobi know about it is because of copy ninja kakashi. second, i'm not talking about the general knowledge, it copies it and foresight, i'm saying people are talking like hiashi knows the inner workings of the sharingan. nobody knows except a sharingan user. aside from that i would go so far as to say that the hyuuga back when uchiha was still a clan knew as much as the sharingan users knew about the hyuugas. if the sharingan was born from hyuuga then it's more logical that the uchiha knew more about bayakugen then the hyuuga knew about the sharingan.

[Metric]

We haven't even seen Itachi do anything non genjutsu/MS related, except an exploding bunshin and throwing kunai at targets. So its impossible to tell, though even as an Itachitard i doubt he could take the 3 strongest Hyuuga at once without his preferred style availible.

If he was allowed normal genjutsu and the normal Sharingan, i think he could beat all 3.

[Law]

If Itachi has genjutsu, but no MS - versus three genius Hyuuga, then the Hyuuga win.

First off, the Hyuuga are one of the best clans for escaping a genjutsu as they have near perfect chakra control. They can stop their flow of chakra and blast it from every tenketsu with ease.

If they didn't realize they were in the genjutsu, then one of the two who did not get put in genjutsu would help them out of it. Without MS, Chiyo's strategy is a sure-bet.

Genjutsu will not be a factor in this match unless you give Itachi his MS back.

Now, versus three major Hyuuga, with them knowing the fight is coming (instead of attacking them at night while they are resting/not anticipating a betrayal...get it?) he has little to no chance at victory. At least two, if not all three of the Hyuuga use kaiten and Jyuuken (sp?) and with 359 degrees of sight, Itachi will never get the drop on them.

It would be fun to watch, but eventually Itachi would be caught in the Hyuuga finishers...and even sharingan can't protect against that.

Hyuuga wins, and Itachi would have likely retreated before the match began. Because he's a wuss? No, because he's smart and likes living unlike some other villains who stay and fight no matter what.

[PradaBrada]

Hiashi = Kakashi/Gai-level Neji
Genjutsu are probably ineffective to Hyuugas
One hit from Hiashi = death, be it dieing from the hit or the Hakke that comes after it

Hyuugas win

[Sasori]

What I wana know is that when Byakugan is activated, they don't have to focus on a specific spot because they can see 360 around them.

So if Itachi was behind them, and they could see into his eyes, even though their eyes were not directed in the same place, would they fall into a genjutsu?

This could prove useful if it doesn't, because the Hyuugas could just direct their eyes to a stationary object, but still be able to have plain sight of Itachi, without being able to fall into Genjutsu.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

What I wana know is that when Byakugan is activated, they don't have to focus on a specific spot because they can see 360 around them.

So if Itachi was behind them, and they could see into his eyes, even though their eyes were not directed in the same place, would they fall into a genjutsu?

This could prove useful if it doesn't, because the Hyuugas could just direct their eyes to a stationary object, but still be able to have plain sight of Itachi, without being able to fall into Genjutsu.

I guess, it won't.. Becuz the sense of visions is different each case... What I meant is, it's different from normal vision.. Unlike normal vision, they mostly see the chakra instead of clear figures... So, they wouldn't fall into genjutsu if they use their Byakugan, IMO... :laugh

[The First Hokage Shodaime]

Well It Seem's Itachi Is Useless Now No Ms........... Hiashi Or Hizashi Would Beat The Living Hell Out Of Itachi.... That's If They Don't Just Kill Him With A Single Blow....... Also Is It Pre or Three Years Neji?