View Full Version : F.B.L. - Naruto Edition Discussion.
Genis-Vell
07-09-2007, 11:45 PM
For those who are not familiarized with F.B.L.
It stands for Fantasy Battle League.
The name originated from the first tournament held in the OB. (thanks to Radisbak).
Well since, I am for pro radical ideas.
Well versed in Naruto.
And experienced tournament participant (and sponsor).
I decided to branch of the Main Tournament.
To hold my own in my vision of how a tournament should be held. (though huge input is brought forth thanks to the members).
In any case these are the working ideas.
Its not a single tournament. Form a pair, and make a team.
Non Seniors that wish to participate must have a background check (I will run the back ground check).
Strategies must be brought in, before the match starts.
As more ideas flow in. More changes will be made.
F.B.L. Sponsor
Id
F.B.L. Staff Member
Shin
F.B.L. Supporters
midnight joker
The White Fang
elite shinobi
Dudemancool
Violent By Design
Distracted
F.B.L. Trial Tournament Registration - Naruto Edition.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=241238
Genis-Vell
07-09-2007, 11:47 PM
Paired Members.
You have 80 points to spend on your team.
1. Vote on the clear victor and it is required you state why they would in. Votes will be voided if there is no explanation, or spam.
2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other team, then only that vote will count.
3. No Plot No Jutsu. (Naruto doesn’t defeat Kakuzu, Sasori, and everyone just because Kishimoto won’t let him die.)
4. No filler jutsu’s. (We're letting TenTen have her crossbow.)
5. No Giant or Boss summons except for Kakashi (Pakkun), Temari (Beaver thing), Kido (Spider), Tayuya (3 Monster things.)
6. KWGoD, Aoba, Mecha Hidan and the Gai hype (Chuck Norris type hype) not allowed. Otherwise, one could have all 3 on their team and own EVERYONE. Please try and be serious and just go off their skills.
7. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST ninja's are in play. (I.E. if you choose Kiba-Shino-Hinata, they may work better since they are a team and know eachother's strengths and weaknesses. Or... Kakuzu will know to fight Hidan from a great distance since he doesn't want his blood drawn, and because they are partners. Hidan will have an advantage of characters who don't know of his ability). EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 363 AND BEFORE.
8. No Prep Time. (Besides the 60 second strategy run-down you give them prior to the match starting).
9. It’s a team fight. Team vs. Team
10. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.
Once Registration closes. And we have team parings finalized.
I shall post a list of the matches that will take place.
I shall PM you the pending match.
In order for me to make an actual match. I need strategies from both teams.
With strategies at hand, I proceed to make the match.
You shall have a grace period of three days.
What this means is, for 3 days you get to debate your strategies with no interfeance from us spectators.
Interfere and I shall warn you (and ask a mod to delete your post).
Do it again, and I shall neg rep you (and ask a mod to delete your post).
Do it again, and you are out of this tourney (and ask a mod to delete your post).
Do it again, and I shall ask an Admin to section ban you. :amuse
I shall post how many days left until the grace period is over.
And I shall post when its ok for us spectators to give our vote and comment.
High Kage – 40 points
Orochimaru
Sasori
Kakuzu
Deidara
Post Time Sasuke
Mid Kage – 32 points
Gaara w/ Shukaku
KN3 (before wind training, and starts in base form, quick transformation)
Low Kage – 25 points
Post-Skip Kakashi
Chiyo
Tsunade (no blood phobia)
Naruto (after wind training, only KN0)
Old Sarutobi (No Shiki Fuujin, and Enma only in staff form)
Post Gai w/ 6 gates (time limited)
Hidan
High Jounin – 20 points
Pre-Skip Kakashi
Pre-Skip Gai (no gates)
Yamato
Kabuto
Zabuza
Asuma
30% Kisame
30% Itachi
Mid Jounin – 15 points
Kurenai
Gaara (SRA)
Sick Kimimaro
Oro with no hands
Post Shikamaru
Low Jounin - 10 points
KN1 Naruto (pre)
CS2 Sasuke (pre)
Pre Lee (exam, 5 gates)
Pre Chouji (red pill)
High Chuunin – 8 points
Gaiden Kakashi (2 dot sharingan).
Post Sakura
Kidomaro (CS2)
Tayuya (CS2)
Sakon/Ukon (CS2)
Jirobou (CS2)
Pre Kankuro (SRA)
Pre Temari (SRA)
Pre Neji (SRA)
Pre Chouji (yellow pill)
Haku
Mid Chuunin – 6 points
Post Chouji
Sakon/Ukon (normal)
Jirobou (CS1)
Tayuya (CS1)
Kidomaro (CS1)
Pre Kiba (SRA)
Pre Gaara (Chunnin preliminaries)
Naruto (final exam)
Sasuke(final exam - CS not allowed?)
Pre Sasuke (FotD - CS allowed)
Drunk Lee
Low Chuunin – 4 points
Tayuya (normal)
Kidomaro (normal)
Jirobou (normal)
Pre Naruto (exam)
Pre Kankuro (Chunnin exam)
Pre Temari (Chunnin exam)
Pre Shino (exam)
Pre Neji (Chunnin exam)
Pre Shikamaru
Pre Chouji (green pill)
Dosu
Lee with weights, Initial Gate
Post Ino
High Genin – 3 points
Pre Sasuke (zabuza arc)
Zaku
Hinata
Kiba
Pre Tenten
Tsurugi Misumi
Arkado Yoroi
Pre Chouji (SRA)
Mid Genin – 2 points
Base Naruto (zabuza arc)
Kin
Low Genin - 1 point
Pre Sakura
Pre Ino
Pre Chouji
Kagari
Muri
Oboro
Keyser Söze
07-09-2007, 11:53 PM
i'll support this if you need any help....
Genis-Vell
07-10-2007, 12:00 AM
i'll support this if you need any help....
Ah thank you.
Just to clarify.
Supporters are those who are pro F.B.L. views.
Staff members, are those who discuss F.B.L. privately. Thus finalize ideas, and/or take votes for new rules
Keyser Söze
07-10-2007, 12:40 AM
i would love to be a staff member, but i doubt i qualify seeing as how i've been in the thick of this tournament thing for only 2 weeks or so.
Elite Uchiha
07-10-2007, 12:42 AM
im in....with dudemancool i support!
I'll support this, the premise of it sounds fairly interesting.
Genis-Vell
07-10-2007, 01:22 AM
i would love to be a staff member, but i doubt i qualify seeing as how i've been in the thick of this tournament thing for only 2 weeks or so.
Dude I will give it some thoughts.
I am recruiting staff members I personally know for some time.
But I dont know, throw some ideas and express your views.
NO Matter how ridicules it may sound.
And I will see from their.
im in....with dudemancool i support!
I'll support this, the premise of it sounds fairly interesting.
Thank you for the support. I say the more input and support the better.
Alright, going by the topic at hand.
And continuing from the old thread.
Should the we allow the first and second.
Now I know, some of you are going to rip this idea to thread.
But consider a few things.
Like I mentioned before, this is for Mid Kage status.
Despite lack of jutsu display.. how each individual can use their terrain forming and ability wielding can be used for strategies.
More so for the lack of chioces in the Mid Kage rank.
Let me know what you think. We shall discuss this, and take a public vote.
From their me and the staff members will make a decision.
Thank you for the support. I say the more input and support the better.
No problem at all.
Alright, going by the topic at hand.
And continuing from the old thread.
Should the we allow the first and second.
Now I know, some of you are going to rip this idea to thread.
But consider a few things.
Like I mentioned before, this is for Mid Kage status.
Despite lack of jutsu display.. how each individual can use their terrain forming and ability wielding can be used for strategies.
More so for the lack of chioces in the Mid Kage rank.
Let me know what you think. We shall discuss this, and take a public vote.
From their me and the staff members will make a decision.
What is this topic your refering to?
Keyser Söze
07-10-2007, 01:29 AM
I can see them playing a supporting cast type role, but there would have to be some limitation to his forrest regenisis. We really don't know how huge it could get, he could make a fucking forrest!!!! hahahaha. i'm not entirely opposed to the idea. it's been a while since i read the chapter and the anime may have corruptd my mind, what have we seen from shodai and nidaime. i know forrest regenisis, but did he use anything else. was it the second who used the pure darkness jutsu or the first. nidaime also used a high level suiton did he not....
i'm also not opposed to assume that they can use some basic ninjutsu, henge, regular bunshin, and/or kage bunshin.
Dudemancool
07-10-2007, 03:05 AM
i support this, i agree with most of ur ideas.
Genis-Vell
07-10-2007, 07:34 PM
What is this topic your refering to?
Should The First and Second Hokage be allowed in the tournament?
i support this, i agree with most of ur ideas.
A thank you [adds to the list]
I can see them playing a supporting cast type role, but there would have to be some limitation to his forrest regenisis. We really don't know how huge it could get, he could make a fucking forrest!!!! hahahaha. i'm not entirely opposed to the idea. it's been a while since i read the chapter and the anime may have corruptd my mind, what have we seen from shodai and nidaime. i know forrest regenisis, but did he use anything else. was it the second who used the pure darkness jutsu or the first. nidaime also used a high level suiton did he not....
i'm also not opposed to assume that they can use some basic ninjutsu, henge, regular bunshin, and/or kage bunshin.
Ah I see. Well I agree that, they are limited to what they have bin shown to do.
(Similar to how 30 Itachi or Sarutobi are limited to what they have shown).
And it is true that some of us are rusty in what they are capable off.
Manga - Chapter 117 and on ward
http://devilbox.dead.org/n/111-120/
Anime - Ep 71 and on ward
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v675044Z4P9Pcfk
Ah well, as to the point if there is a limitation on Shodai's Mokuton Kenjutsu: Genesis Rebith/Birth of Trees, it is said in his Databook Profile that he created the very land that the Hidden Leaf Village is surrounded by.
So I'd wager based on his performance as both a revived Edo Tensai Summon and as the true Shodai, he'd likely completely rip apart landscapes with it, at least to a signifigant degree if not totally. It was crushing and breaking apart Sandaime's Doton Wall like it was nothing and it totally occupied the super majority of the space that the barrier sealed off, which was not small in any comparison.
Keyser Söze
07-12-2007, 01:18 PM
if he's in, he's in low kage i'd say at the least. then we must consider his complete darkness jutsu thing, this is a great tool that could completely nullify a genjutsu specialist. would this be included? in regards to nidaime, should he even be included?
if he's in, he's in low kage i'd say at the least. then we must consider his complete darkness jutsu thing, this is a great tool that could completely nullify a genjutsu specialist. would this be included? in regards to nidaime, should he even be included?
I disagree if your saying that Shodai is a low level Kage. And Nidaime's Suitons have proven a lot more powerful then anything people like Kakuzu, Kisame, Zabuza or even Kakashi have shown.
Weren't all elementals{except Mokuton} traded in the Sarutobi vs Oro fight no higher than B-rank?
Violent By Design
07-12-2007, 04:20 PM
I guess im in.
Distracted
07-12-2007, 04:59 PM
I don't know what's going on, but I'll participate in any tournaments that get started.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-12-2007, 06:01 PM
What was the point of this thread? Don't we already have a discussion thread for the pair match? And why wasn't the registration thread stickied? Anwsers please.
Genis-Vell
07-12-2007, 08:44 PM
Shodai & Nidaime's - abilities (along with title of Hokage), defiantly places them at least Mid Kage.
As for Shodais Mokuton. I do not trust the data books 100%. I think we should just go with what the manga has shown us. His area of influence done by Mokuton. Should not exceed the battle ground vs. the 3rd.
What was the point of this thread? Don't we already have a discussion thread for the pair match? And why wasn't the registration thread stickied? Anwsers please.
The thread of team pairing discussion was just that. A thread dedicated, in discussing team pairing for future tournaments. But I recived ample feed back. And members wanting to try out this idea right away. So I took it upon myself to hold a short trail.
(just to test it out).
I didnt think it was necessary to have it sticked. If you want I shall make a link from this thread (first post).
Current status on the trial tournament - finalizations on the team must be submitted on Sunday.
Matches begin on Monday.
Any how
.So then I decided, make a new organized tournament. Headed by myself (with the assistance of some senior OB members, along with Naruto ave.)
I gave it a name. FBL.
The purpose - to modify the tournament after every major tournament.
Thats right after the trail. We will give this idea a full 100% green light.
Once that ends, a new theme will be brought in ( I already know what the next theme will be).
And I plan to continue to do so, until I run out of idea or we FBL can no longer come up with fresh themes.
Not only will the tournament have a theme. We will insert (I will try vary hard) new characters. And bend the rules on what is and isnt allowed (compared to the official tournament).
Characters like Shodai & Nidaime. Ware members are generally not sure if we should give them a chance. I will attempt to reason, and discuss why we should give them a chance.
I want this tournament, to have as many options as possible.
F.B.L. is all about trying out radical ideas.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-12-2007, 08:52 PM
A link to the registration would be nice for those few interested. But i get it now.
I already said so in the other thread, but you have my support, Id.
In fact, you should probably give me a high ranking staff position due to my high levels of awesome. :noworry
... but still no Sho and Nidaime. >.>
Genis-Vell
07-12-2007, 09:06 PM
I already said so in the other thread, but you have my support, Id.
In fact, you should probably give me a high ranking staff position due to my high levels of awesome. :noworry
Ah, I would consider you as a staff member.
But this post lacks your lips on my but cheeks.
So get it working.
JK - :sag
... but still no Sho and Nidaime. >.>
This is a semi democracy. :nerve
I bring in an idea.
We discuss it (pros & cons, - actions & reactions)
Take a vote on it (after discussion - 1 at a time).
And us staff members will take in consideration all of thee above.
Thus make a final decision.
If you don’t like it, I could just force feed my idea to FBL.
~Shin~
07-12-2007, 09:13 PM
Staff member posting :knk
What exactly is the difference that the Staff member performs?
Anyway, at least Shodai Hokage should be included. The performance of his Mokuton far outshines in the minimum the majority of Sandaime's own techniques and Nidaime's performance at large.
At least to me that is.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Anyway...put me down on the list Id. I'm all for new ideas and such.
Genis-Vell
07-12-2007, 11:06 PM
What exactly is the difference that the Staff member performs?
Discuss with me, FBL related topics on a messenger.
Finalize idea, rules, character tier list.
Help with the actual FBL tournament.
Anyway...put me down on the list Id. I'm all for new ideas and such.
Dude you are in.
Personal smile icon seal of approval
named after me - :id
Id, when exactly is the team tournament going to begin?
Genis-Vell
07-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Id, when exactly is the team tournament going to begin?
If there is no delay - Monday.
Note
I am also eager to try out this paired tournament.
But I must say, strategizing with a partner does add a level of depth.
Although, I wished the tournament did commence earlier.
I am glad I gave everyone, one week worth of time to discuss and fine tunes ones team.
Spell
07-13-2007, 06:00 AM
2 tournaments at once can be troublesome =/
Keyser Söze
07-13-2007, 03:21 PM
i agree with risu..... but if you need help running the trial paired tournament i'm sure most of us will be glad to help out.
with shodai - i think he should be in
with nidaime - i think he should be out.... due to his 1 jutsu?
i agree with risu..... but if you need help running the trial paired tournament i'm sure most of us will be glad to help out.
with shodai - i think he should be in
with nidaime - i think he should be out.... due to his 1 jutsu?
Nidiame has shown more then just a single Suiton Ninjutsu....
Cabbage Cabrera
07-13-2007, 06:08 PM
.....ok this Nidaime and Shodai thing has been argued to high hell ever since the tourney began. Since this is a tourney for new ideas let's add them just to test it.
Man....i think i'm gonna do poorly in the trial. Vance is good and all but his showing in Tourney going on now was lame. I hope he does better for the pair matches.
How broken would you guys consider Sandaime Kazekage and Shodai Hokage as a team with their Kekke Genkai techniques...ie Mokuton + Satetsu.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-13-2007, 07:10 PM
Not very broken....both styles seem to conflict too much.
Keyser Söze
07-13-2007, 07:54 PM
ok, let's add them. not just to test it, but to add a few characters and options aswell. what are your thoughts on adding itachi? if we're going there.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-13-2007, 08:02 PM
The real Itachi has shown us less then either Nidaime or Shodai...i say no.
Keyser Söze
07-13-2007, 08:06 PM
not really. we can assume he can do all the things shoten itachi can do, genjutsu counter, the deidara genjutsu, clones explosion. the water technique. then all ms techniques are debateable.
Not very broken....both styles seem to conflict too much.
As in if they were paired together? Because I don't see the conflication between them, care to elaborate?
ok, let's add them. not just to test it, but to add a few characters and options aswell. what are your thoughts on adding itachi? if we're going there.
Might as well throw in White Fang in that as well because Itachi's real capabilites are unknown except for Katons, handseal speed and Sharingan/MS techniques.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-13-2007, 08:29 PM
@ WF...i see a conflict because Shodai's Moukton could accidentaly destroy some of Sasori's puppets and Sandaime Kazekage's Iron Sand could destroy certain trees Shodai meant for other pruposes.
I'm not saying they'll bumble around and trip over eachother like fools but shit happens and what i said is a very real possibility.
Besides, they've never worked together and have no clue what the other does.
Keyser Söze
07-13-2007, 08:58 PM
definately a crazy duo in theory. add the fact that shodai can use that total darkness genjutsu it would be extremely hard to get close to them, or use long ranged genjutsu.
Genis-Vell
07-15-2007, 02:11 PM
.....ok this Nidaime and Shodai thing has been argued to high hell ever since the tourney began. Since this is a tourney for new ideas let's add them just to test it.
Man....i think i'm gonna do poorly in the trial. Vance is good and all but his showing in Tourney going on now was lame. I hope he does better for the pair matches.
Any Idea on ware you would like to rank them?
I was thinking - Mid Kage 32 points.
Once we finalize on this idea, I am going to bring up another topic.
I dont want to reveal it yet, I am afraid it might disregard the one at hand.
Any Idea on ware you would like to rank them?
I was thinking - Mid Kage 32 points.
Once we finalize on this idea, I am going to bring up another topic.
I dont want to reveal it yet, I am afraid it might disregard the one at hand.
I'd put Shodai well above the level of being ranked as a mid tier Kage. Genjutsu and Ninjutsu showing with his Mokuton show this, and Sarutobi nearly shitting his panets at the start of the Genesis Rebirth/Birth of Trees technique only proves this.
Keyser Söze
07-15-2007, 02:18 PM
i'd put him around low kage, if he showed more i would put him in high kage position. where would you rank nidaime? let's do it this way
shodai - mid kage
nidaime - low kage.
there's too much confusion right now, cause they seem like a package discussion. lol.
~Shin~
07-15-2007, 02:22 PM
How is Shodai mid kage?
This guy has mokuton and an immensely strong genjutsu. And if Yamato is this good with mokuton, imagine how strong Shodai would be.
Shodai's strength , Taijutsu and speed were barely matched by The Professor, his genjutsu skills are obviously high from the Darkness Genjutsu technique and his Mokuton can rip apart landscapes.
More then enough IMO to be at borderline high kage level, if not already.
Keyser Söze
07-15-2007, 02:23 PM
How is Shodai mid kage?
This guy has mokuton and an immensely strong genjutsu. And if Yamato is this good with mokuton, imagine how strong Shodai would be.
that's part of the problem. we can't just image how strong he is, we gotta go by what he's shown. other than forrest regenisis and the genjutsu i don't think we've seen anything else. those two jutsus alone don't put him in high kage.
~Shin~
07-15-2007, 02:25 PM
that's part of the problem. we can't just image how strong he is, we gotta go by what he's shown. other than forrest regenisis and the genjutsu i don't think we've seen anything else. those two jutsus alone don't put him in high kage.
I think it's reasonable speculation considering Yamato specifically commented on the fact that his mokuton isn't as good as Shodai's. I would say Mokuton alone in the hands of a very experienced ninja like Shodai would put them in high tier league.
Everything Yamato can do with Mokuton, Shodai can do 10 times better. Seriously, Genesis Rebirth had Sarutobi shitting himself and did you see the size of the trees and the scope of how much area it took up within the barrier?
The only reason Sarutobi broke out of it was because of a henged diamond form Enma had to save his ass. He can use Mokuton Bunshins and certainly use the same techniques that Yamato does like Dotons and Suitons as well.
Keyser Söze
07-15-2007, 02:32 PM
mmmmm, i can see where you guys are coming from but, we cannot say that because yamato can do this, shodai can do it, and better. although it does make perfect sense.
mmmmm, i can see where you guys are coming from but, we cannot say that because yamato can do this, shodai can do it, and better. although it does make perfect sense.
If it makes perfect sense, and is supported by the manga, then why exactly can't we say that Shodaime can do what Yamato can do?
But we know from Yamato who has admitted completely inferiority to Shodai Hokage, that he is certainly capable of high level Suitons and Doton techniques in addition to the sum of Mokuton itself.
Although obviously Shodai's taijutsu is obviously less stellar then Nidaime's and his Suitons are inferior to the Suiton Specalist.
Genis-Vell
07-15-2007, 02:45 PM
I'd put Shodai well above the level of being ranked as a mid tier Kage. Genjutsu and Ninjutsu showing with his Mokuton show this, and Sarutobi nearly shitting his panets at the start of the Genesis Rebirth/Birth of Trees technique only proves this.
The highest level is High Kage - 40 points worth.
But I agree with MJ. We need to stick on by what he has shown us.
Well that's where I seriously rank him, Shodai can also curbstomp Jinchurriki too. :noworry
Genis-Vell
07-15-2007, 03:15 PM
Well that's where I seriously rank him, Shodai can also curbstomp Jinchurriki too. :noworry
We can make open assumptions such as those.
I mean, when has naruto ever openly shown a single person bend the Bijuu to their will?? other then the Jinchurriki themselves (sort of)?
The most we have seen was suppressing the Bijuu influenced power or extracting.
Yes but if Yamato, who has admitted inferiority to Shodai, can surpress the considerable power of MK Naruto, which is half of the Kyuubi's total power, then Shodai certainly can.
And if this applies to Bijuu....well then, that's open to debate.
Dudemancool
07-15-2007, 11:21 PM
bringer darkness genjutsu needs to be banned if shodai's allowed.
Keyser Söze
07-16-2007, 01:21 AM
bringer darkness genjutsu needs to be banned if shodai's allowed.
i don't think it should be banned by the AOE should be limited to a short range.
Genis-Vell
07-23-2007, 01:25 AM
Well F.B.L. Trail Tournament is on the way.
Clarifications.
Manga feats can be used up to chapter 363.
Yet C3 + C4, Garuda and self destruction for Deidara are a no show. (dont bother argueing or debating this. My word is final damn it >_<).
Sasuke Recent, summon + genjutsu in the nick of time is also banned. (sheesh summon I can understand the summon..he has done that before ..but come on T__T)
Paired Members : Asuma: Konoha's Blade, tiger
Team: : Team I like Cookies
Sasori [40]
Kakuzu [40]
Paired Members : Esponer + edyh
Team : Team Hawt Bitches!
Uzumaki Naruto [25],
Yuhi Kurenai [15]
Sarutobi [25]
Sabaku no Gaara [15]
Paired Members: Joe Gear + Vance
Team : White Flower
Sasori- [40]
Zabuza- [20]
Haku- [8]
Pre Naruto- [2]
Oboro Team- [3]
SRA Chouji- [3]
Neji- [4]
Paired Members : The 4th Hokage + Eddy-sensei
Team : Aerodynamic Entry
Uzumaki Naruto [25]
Maito Gai [25]
Momochi Zabuza [20]
Aburame Shino [4]
SRA Akimichi Chouji [3]
Rain Trio [3]
Paired Members : Dudemancool + Elite Shinobi
Team : Da Kings
Post Sasuke [40]
Hidan [25]
Sick Kimiramaru [15]
Paired Members : citan + Distracted
Team : Heibi on Crack
Post Kakashi - [25]
Gai with gates - [25]
Sick Oro - [15]
Sick Kimi - [15]
Paired Members : materpillar and Kyon
Team : Irony
Uchiha Sasuke [40]
Deidara [40]
Paired Members : Id & Comic Book Guy
Team Shattered Dreams
Post Time Sasuke [40]
Gaara w/ Shukaku [32]
Tayuya (CS2) [8]
Well the matches will be coming soon. (within the next few days).
Ill keep you posted.
- Id
Genis-Vell
07-25-2007, 12:51 AM
The Rulez
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=9378124&postcount=2
The matches
3-7
4-8
2-5
1-6
So, first of I declare witch matches will go first.
Team 3 and 7
Paired Members: Joe Gear + Vance
Team: White Flower
Sasori- [40]
Zabuza- [20]
Haku- [8]
Pre Naruto- [2]
Oboro Team- [3]
SRA Chouji- [3]
Neji- [4]
vs.
Paired Members: materpillar and Kyon
Team: Irony
Uchiha Sasuke [40]
Deidara [40]
Team 1 and 6
Paired Members: Asuma: Konoha's Blade, tiger
Team: Team I like Cookies
Sasori [40]
Kakuzu [40]
vs.
Paired Members: citan + Distracted
Team: Heibi on Crack
Post Kakashi - [25]
Gai with gates - [25]
Sick Oro - [15]
Sick Kimi - [15]
For some reason I lol'd hard when I saw you named Deidara and Sasuke's combo as "Team Irony". For Deidara's Suicide Jutsu, we aren't allowing the hyperbole ten kilometer as fact for its range are we?
Vance
07-25-2007, 12:59 AM
Awesome, I'm against two High Kages, not to mention Joe Gear is BARELY online...
Genis-Vell
07-25-2007, 01:33 AM
Garuda is not allowed.
Self Destruction is not allowed
Vance
07-25-2007, 01:42 AM
I am typing a strategy now, hopefully, Kyon proves to be troublesome.
Distracted
07-25-2007, 05:52 AM
Don't worry Vance, I'm by myself as well.. and I also am against 2 high kage characters.
Vance
07-25-2007, 05:58 AM
Hey, if you need help, I'm here.
I'm confident I can outstrategise Kyon with some Joe Gear help, and I'll even help you if needed.
I definately improved from last time.
Cabbage Cabrera
07-25-2007, 02:32 PM
Well Vance i just happen to be on at different times, our schedules conflict.
Vance
07-25-2007, 03:31 PM
I PMed you the strat Joe, hope you like it. :amuse
materpillar
07-27-2007, 11:07 AM
gah where is my match? *has been very inactive*
Vance
07-27-2007, 12:44 PM
You lost, it's over.
Joe Gear and I are against you and Kyon, materpiller. :evil
materpillar
07-27-2007, 01:47 PM
i know your against me BUT WHERE IS THE MATCH?!
Vance
07-27-2007, 01:50 PM
It's not up yet...:oh
Keyser Söze
07-27-2007, 01:50 PM
matches haven't started yet. this tournament has yet to begin.
Cochise
07-27-2007, 01:53 PM
When do the doubles start????
Vance
07-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Soon...Wait young one...
materpillar
07-27-2007, 02:06 PM
i will enjoy destroying you vance!!! like i would enjoy destroying you on hak's rp website but your never active
Vance
07-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Me > You :oh
Cochise
07-27-2007, 10:16 PM
Such overconfidence Vance......
The only guy who can back up his talk on this forum is me everyone knows that:bow :bow
Vance
07-27-2007, 10:23 PM
Me > You :oh
Cochise
07-27-2007, 10:28 PM
Oh snap...I've been beaten
Vance
07-27-2007, 10:38 PM
:pleased
Hey, how about we have a practice battle through PMs? We each have 70 points, and we can have a practice battle.
Genis-Vell
07-27-2007, 11:01 PM
i know your against me BUT WHERE IS THE MATCH?!
I sent out pms.
Strategies must be submitted to me
BEFORE I can make match.
Once I have strategies from both teams.
The match is made.
And you guys get a 3 day grace period to debate.
So hand them over already:mad
Cochise
07-27-2007, 11:02 PM
Are you talking to me Vance-Sensei...Oh that would be wonderful :cry
Bd convo thread we pick teams
Vance
07-27-2007, 11:38 PM
I made two strategies, should I hand them to you Id?
Genis-Vell
07-29-2007, 12:08 AM
I am waiting for Team: Irony and Team I like Cookie strategies to be handed over via pm.
I say, keep nagging them via pm, to hand over the strategies…so we can get a started :mad
Vance
07-29-2007, 12:09 AM
I sent mine to you Id :angry
Distracted
07-29-2007, 12:10 AM
that's pathetic... I have work and class... and I'm arguing for Grrblt while getting ready to match up against Tiger again in the real tournament...
oh and Citan is MIA and I'm left alone... and Tiger + Asuma can't make a strategy already?
Vance
07-29-2007, 12:12 AM
I pity you, Distracted.
I also pity myself, because Joe will be offline for the next few weeks. :S
Distracted
07-29-2007, 12:22 AM
I think my strategy is going to be completely unexpected... I'm expecting certain things from Tiger... and hopefully if I predicted right I will end up slaughtering his characters.
Vance
07-29-2007, 12:23 AM
Por Que?
I wonder how tiger will live without Zaku.
tGre teh Disleksik
07-29-2007, 03:16 AM
Por Que?
I wonder how tiger will live without Zaku.
Zaku is neither in my team.. and will probably never be in my teams again for any real BD tournament... there was a reason why its called a trial tournament :amuse.
And sorry Distracted... I spent yesterday getting some sleep and sleeping off my hangover... I'll try and get a semi-non-shitfaced strategy soon so Id can send it off...
bleh :/
Distracted
07-29-2007, 06:37 AM
Heh you PANSY!
Last friday I was drinking like a mofo... mostly due to my friend though. I was proving that he was a pansy.
He threw up after only 3 shots of jack... so I took 6 shots to prove that he was a wimp.
Then we went to an improv show that lasted about 2 hours... and then I took 3 more when I got back. Yeah... I'm badass..
but the reason I call you a pansey is that I did this from 11 pm to 3 am. I then woke up and got ready for work and was there by 10 am... WITH my hangover in full control.
Yeah... I'm totally badass.
tGre teh Disleksik
07-29-2007, 07:26 AM
lies! You used sleeping pills and ritalin!
Distracted
07-29-2007, 07:36 AM
well I didn't use ritalin...
tGre teh Disleksik
07-29-2007, 07:47 AM
touche!
I had about 20-25 drink from 12pm - 5am :/
so fuck u fag!!
I had a burger while I was drunk... so I threw up after I passed out on my bed :/...fucking burger... mmm
Better get started on that strat soon :(
Vagrant Tom
07-29-2007, 07:54 AM
I laugh at all your drinking feats! In my first year of uni, I would drink so much more everyday without fail, starting at 11 in the morning. But I've quit, for my health and my bank balance. But I do miss my spirit collection sometimes.
You 80 pound 10 year old girls spam too much.
(I'm just speculating your age and weight based on your tolerance for alcohol :wink)
Distracted
07-29-2007, 08:13 AM
9 shots of jack is a light weight? Wow... then I've met some people who are REALLY wimpy. I could have kept drinking but I didn't want to completely forget everything that was going on.
The biggest reason for my hang over was because I woke up late and had to skip breakfast. Otherwise I'd have been fun.
The only thing that really worries me is that there is a girl I like and I called her last night... and now she desperately wants to get drunk with me... but I don't remember a damn thing I said to her.
I guess I'm charming when I'm not sober?
Vagrant Tom
07-29-2007, 08:18 AM
Lol nine shots of anything is pretty light for what I used to do every day. But on the up hand, at least it is cheaper to get drunk quickly. JD is only 37.5% by volume anyway.
Distracted
07-29-2007, 08:35 AM
I don't know where you get your jack from, but mine is 80% proof... that's 40% by volume.
3 shots is light to me... 9 shots is enough to keep me drunk without a messed up hang over the next day.
I say it doesn't matter because Jack is disgusting.
I'll take my Jager, thank you very much.
lolspamid'sthread
Vagrant Tom
07-29-2007, 08:45 AM
I don't know where you get your jack from, but mine is 80% proof... that's 40% by volume.
3 shots is light to me... 9 shots is enough to keep me drunk without a messed up hang over the next day.
you're right actually, but a lot of whiskeys are 37.5% and same with other spirits. The main whiskey I used to drink was Southern Comfort and that is usually 38%.
Here's a picture of my old spirit collection from back in the day. I think this was on my 19th birthday as my girlfriend got me few bottles of it as a present.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z75/vagranttom/Drink.jpg
I used to drink around 12 doubles a day (I only had double shot glasses) of a mix of the stuff there, but mostly absinth. The stuff I used to have is La Fee Absinthe which is 68-70% (I can't remember which, it's been a while since I drunk it). But I'm really glad I quit drinking, because for a while I really had a serious problem. I must have spent £4000 on alcohol in a year, which was worrying. And although I rarely got hung over and never got sick, I did start to worry about my health a lot. Plus I could be a twat whilst drunk. Yeah, so don't drink :)
Distracted
07-29-2007, 08:46 AM
Lol... I almost feel bad about spamming this thread... but seriously I'm bored waiting for my match to start.
Also I don't think many of us really want to go to the bath house just to talk about our drinking habits.
Jack is the only thing I can drink straight... I don't know why. Probably cause it was the first thing I drank so it doesn't bother me. Though I prefer my jack and coke.
***edit***
Heh to be honest I went and checked my bottle to confirm that it was 40%. So it wasn't just off the top of my head - - but I did think it sounded wrong.
My thing though is that I can drink a lot, but I don't like getting messed up... and I did have to go to work in the morning.
I would say that at some point we should play some sort of online shot game... but then I realized that the opportunity for cheating... or sneaking shots... is too great.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z75/vagranttom/Drink.jpg
Warez the jager? :huh
Vagrant Tom
07-29-2007, 08:50 AM
I wouldn't join an online shots game for I no longer drink. Would have been up for it a while ago though.
Is absinthe illegal in America? I know they have stricter laws. The strongest absinthe is only legal in Czeq anyway.
Jager was always hard to find in bottles. Bar sold the shots but getting hold of bottled Jager proved impossible. And I really looked.
Vance
07-29-2007, 03:00 PM
When I become 21, I'm going to surpass all of you. :wtf
tGre teh Disleksik
07-29-2007, 06:18 PM
lies... you will never surpass us. We are all almighty. Bow down. Now.
Vagrant Tom
07-29-2007, 06:38 PM
When I become 21, I'm going to surpass all of you. :wtf
or go to the UK and start at 18! But seriously, alcohol is bad, even if it seems (and is) very cool. And now I'll stop spamming this thread.
Genis-Vell
07-29-2007, 07:18 PM
Spam my thread again. :nerve
Not only will you receive a neg rep from me, but neg's from fellow OB members:evil
Vance
07-30-2007, 06:51 AM
Spam :wtf
When are teh matches to be teh posted?
Distracted
07-30-2007, 07:34 AM
We're still waiting for the opposing teams to make their strategies.
Damnit Tiger and Asuma... now you guys are starting to piss me off.
tGre teh Disleksik
07-30-2007, 09:55 AM
I sent Asuma a PM asking him if he wants to contribute... I received no reply... guess I'm going to have to solo this...
Andy, I'll have one up and PMed to Id in about 24 hours... lemme just study for my Bio test first :sag
Spell
07-30-2007, 12:05 PM
I sent Asuma a PM asking him if he wants to contribute... I received no reply... guess I'm going to have to solo this...
You have Kakuzu and Sasori in your team? You have my support. You will win this.:wink
Distracted
07-30-2007, 09:47 PM
Hey Risu... don't state that without having read the strategies... muwhahahaha
Vance
07-30-2007, 10:06 PM
I see Sasori and Kakuzu as a bad combo.
Sasori doesn't seem like the person to help someone with an "up-in-your-face" fighting style, but whatever.
Distracted
07-30-2007, 10:31 PM
Especially when they are in the ravine where Kakashi and Naruto chased Deidara.
Spell
07-31-2007, 07:34 AM
Hey Risu... don't state that without having read the strategies... muwhahahahaSorry, I'm Sasori biased =/
I just don't see how this team could lose to anyone >__<
I see Sasori and Kakuzu as a bad combo.
Sasori doesn't seem like the person to help someone with an "up-in-your-face" fighting style, but whatever.I don't think Kakuzu would need so much help >_____> , these two have incredible defence.
Distracted
07-31-2007, 08:04 AM
Oh I have my ways Risu... or do you doubt me?
Spell
07-31-2007, 08:07 AM
Oh I have my ways Risu... or do you doubt me?No, I don't :P, but well.... I believe tiger will prepare something good either
Distracted
07-31-2007, 08:18 AM
unless Tiger does the complete opposite of what is expected (which... won't help him either) I think I start off with a huge advantage.
Spell
07-31-2007, 08:32 AM
You are pretty confident :D
Genis-Vell
07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
I just don't see how this team could lose to anyone >__<
Oh.
Well those two ware my initial team.
But when I was discussing our team.
Me and CBG spotted a few major flaws.
1) I really could not come up with a decent strategy. It seem that during the debate. We would most likely focus on overwhelming (just muscle or force) our way through.
2) Both are powerful mid range fighters. Each can hold their own (by themselves) a group of enemies..thanks to their abilities. Thats the pro. The con side of this two faced quarter.
Well, their major attacks seem to spam over a vary significant amount of range and length.
Meaning, a number of Sasoris 100 puppets would receive friendly fire, from Kakuzu 4 elemental jutsu attack.
This seems to hold ground on the biases of who their partner ware.
Hidan thanks to his immortality could take and even strategize with Kakuzu friendly fire.
Deidara would simply stay out of reach, and support Sasori.
I dont know, to me those two flaws seemed clear and with enough significance to seek out another cast for the team.
Vance
07-31-2007, 10:00 PM
I think Joe and I overdid it with the strategy. :sweatdrop
Genis-Vell
07-31-2007, 10:08 PM
I think Joe and I overdid it with the strategy. :sweatdrop
Over strategizing, is better then under strategizing
.um I think.
Keep your head up:nuts
Vance
07-31-2007, 11:00 PM
I wrote that strategy, and Joe Gear revised it.
Of course, when Kyon replied, I knew we lost the match. :(
Genis-Vell
08-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Then let Joe Gear take over.
Maybe your are missing on something, Joe Gear can catch on.
Si me entiendes?
Vance
08-01-2007, 12:49 AM
I created a thread in the OB battledome, so far, three pages. Soon, I will rise. :wink
Of course, at my prime, I will probably be as tell as the sole of your shoes. :sweatdrop
I guess I get intimidated easily, but I won't back off.
tGre teh Disleksik
08-01-2007, 01:03 AM
lol, I dont get it... is it just about making threads now?
lol, intimidation at making threads :D.
Yeah, GL and HF. I guess I'll get my strat now.
tGre teh Disleksik
08-01-2007, 01:11 AM
Sorry for Double Post... but I PMed you the strategy Id.
Vance
08-01-2007, 01:13 AM
I mean intimidated at Kyon. :sag
tGre teh Disleksik
08-01-2007, 01:17 AM
ah... you seemed pretty assertive in your retorts... dont know how Kyon will take it. :D
Genis-Vell
08-01-2007, 01:17 AM
I created a thread in the OB battledome, so far, three pages. Soon, I will rise. :wink
Of course, at my prime, I will probably be as tell as the sole of your shoes. :sweatdrop
I guess I get intimidated easily, but I won't back off.
I told you.
Me = Uchiha SHIN elite super genius (With a Bijuu inside me)..
You = Diedara wanna be, possibly genin rank Sakura.
lol, I dont get it... is it just about making threads now?
lol, intimidation at making threads :D.
Yeah, GL and HF. I guess I'll get my strat now.
He wishes to be come a renown debater among the OB (and various other battle domes I suppose >_>).
Vance, you have your work cut out for you.
I guarantee you'll be typing a lot, but I'll probably lose~
(I'll lose interest after tomorrow or so most likely :sag)
Vance
08-01-2007, 02:43 AM
Kyon, I will beat you...Because you have a life. I do not have a life, therefore, I will win...But I lost at life...But isn't teh internets more important? :wtf
tGre teh Disleksik
08-01-2007, 04:38 AM
well, in my short time that I've known Kyon... he's nothing to shake a stick at...
your strategy is simply huge and intimidating to the untrained eye... but you are simply assuming too much and placing some abilities outside of your character depths... your strategy skill isn't bad at all...
just your over-assumptions..
Get over that, and you'll get into the ring of elite Battledomers (not saying Im in it) but yeah... you still have ways to go... and think of that as a good thing :D.
There's my pep talk... take with it what you will.
Distracted
08-01-2007, 06:36 AM
I always have a problem where i go through and double check with half of the people and see if I can do something... and then when I do it everyone says "NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT!" and everyone starts claiming I can't cause they didn't realize I was going to use it.
I.E. Mine and tigers match in the tournament with armless oro + Kusanagi.
Vance
08-01-2007, 09:45 AM
I already believe that Kakuzu/Sasori is a horrid pair. Just because one has the strongest members of the tournament does not make them the strongest team in the tournament.
Spell
08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
1) I really could not come up with a decent strategy. It seem that during the debate. We would most likely focus on overwhelming (just muscle or force) our way through.Well, I can somehow understand you. I'm quite experienced in "Saspring" :P , and I'm a little biased so preparing a strategy for him wouldn't be a problem for me. I realize I would have much more problems with creating a strategy for Oro, since I don't like him =/
2) Both are powerful mid range fighters. Each can hold their own (by themselves) a group of enemies..thanks to their abilities. That’s the pro. The con side of this two faced quarter.
Well, their major attacks seem to spam over a vary significant amount of range and length.
Meaning, a number of Sasoris 100 puppets would receive friendly fire, from Kakuzu 4 elemental jutsu attack.It's true, therefore I wouldn't use army of puppets here ^^
This seems to hold ground on the biases of who their partner ware.
Hidan thanks to his immortality could take and even strategize with Kakuzu friendly fire.
Deidara would simply stay out of reach, and support Sasori.I agree. I just can't understand why no one made a team with Sasori and Shikamaru, considering my matches in the first tournament. Furthermore, now, we can prepare a strategy (since there is 60 seconds to explain it), so the variety of moves is increased a lot. It's much easier to team these 2 characters.
Seriously I don't understand it, and in your next tournament I would like to use them ^^
Btw. I would like to add FBL matches to Tournament directory, but I'm too lazy busy to gather links from 2 tournaments :sweatdrop, could you, please, gather them for me :P
Genis-Vell
08-01-2007, 11:02 PM
Sure. Ill promptly make links to FBL Matches.
Genis-Vell
08-03-2007, 09:54 PM
As promised here are the links to FBL matches.
F.B.L. TT - Match 1 - White Flower vs Team: Irony
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=250849
F.B.L. TT Match 2 - I like Cookies vs. Heibi on Crack
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=250906
Also, the 3 day grace period has ended. Votes, comments and posts are know accepted.
Vance
08-03-2007, 10:21 PM
Id, my internets are messed up. I can't see anyone online, I didn't get to post all day, for some reason, I can't even view the pages. WTF is going on?
Distracted
08-05-2007, 08:22 AM
The board is screwed up for a while... for some strange reason.
Vance
08-05-2007, 05:44 PM
I can't even view my new posts on my profile. Is everyone having the same problem?
Distracted
08-05-2007, 08:56 PM
yeah we all are. Though seriously... it's been like 3 days. This should have been fixed by now.
WTF is up with NF?
Vance
08-05-2007, 09:36 PM
I don't know, I'm nervous how this will affect my match, I mean, you and I both lost pracitcally 2 days of debating, and I had great points to bring up.
I sent an email, but Tazmo is too rich to bother with a little punk like me...And where is kojak? He's unb&, yet he never came near us again.
Genis-Vell
08-08-2007, 11:24 PM
Well due to major forum faliure.
I sort off did not keep to much tabs on FBL.
But to get things back to speed.
We will continue to debate, if the 1st and 2nd Hokage should be allowed.
And ware.
I also have a few other characters I wish to add on.
FBL TT, next 2 matches will be posted soon.
Vance
08-08-2007, 11:25 PM
Yayz! I'ma be up all night to post.
CONGRATULATIONS VANCE.
*shoots confetti at Vance*
Now where is the afterparty with the hot womenz and the booze? :sag
Vance
08-11-2007, 12:08 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u218/codycat411/picture1.jpg
Yeah! :yell
Distracted
08-11-2007, 12:14 AM
Mudkips? Ihasamudkip
Vance
08-11-2007, 12:16 AM
No, Charmanders. :3
Cochise
08-12-2007, 07:27 PM
*pukes*
Is that a self portrait Vance???????
Vance
08-12-2007, 08:47 PM
It's your momma. (For some reason, that lame old line fits so well here)
So, Id, you hate the Manga Battledome now or what..? -_-''
Maybe it has something to do with a certain group of people spamming your thread.... no names though. ^^^^^^ :notrust
Is this thing ever going to get to the second half of the first round?
Vance
08-16-2007, 11:09 PM
Probably not. :pek
Elite Uchiha
08-22-2007, 02:40 PM
when are we goin to start this tournament??
Distracted
08-22-2007, 02:43 PM
This tournament started... but it has only had it's first 2 matches (WOOT I WON!!) but it seems Id has gone MIA and doesn't want to continue this.
Id can do whatever the hell he wants to... at least he WILL do whatever the hell he wants to. I don't feel like running this tournament when it seems people are complaining aobut the other tournament as well.
Elite Uchiha
08-22-2007, 02:48 PM
what?!?!?!?!? the 2on2 torunament started!?!??!
Vance
08-22-2007, 04:42 PM
I PMed Id, he said he's sort of busy with other tourneys.
Elite Uchiha
08-22-2007, 06:38 PM
im confused when does the 2on 2 start?
Distracted
08-22-2007, 06:41 PM
It has already started... just Id hasn't kept up with it
Vance
08-22-2007, 06:42 PM
Should we just post the next matches?
Distracted
08-22-2007, 06:44 PM
I didn't agree with running this at the same time as the other tournament in the first place, I'm not about to post the matches when even the tournament itself is having trouble.
Vance
08-22-2007, 06:50 PM
Should I post them?
Keyser Söze
08-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I would say no, since we are not his beloved "staff" members. LOL. but if you want to do it anyway, i would not object to that.
Vance
08-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I'm making ONE more PM, if he doesn't post it today, those damn matches are going up.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 07:28 PM
Vance, I'm asking you, do not post more matches. We already have people making exhibition matches, and we already have the main tournament going on. Please, we don't need MORE of this shit.
Vance
08-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Then the entire idea is trashed?
Keyser Söze
08-22-2007, 08:00 PM
i think this tournament is taking a break. I wouldn't say it's trashed, i think everyone's having a tournament over-load really. LOL. we need a break, this is nice, not having any matches to read.
Vance
08-22-2007, 08:04 PM
I worked my ass off on the F.B.L. Match, it betta keep going.
Distracted
08-22-2007, 08:13 PM
it will, when Id decides to re-start it again.
Vance
08-22-2007, 08:25 PM
We have to re-do the matches? :arg
Distracted
08-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Where the hell are you getting these weird ideas vance? Fuck it let me make this PERFECTLY clear.
1. start up again does not mean RESTART THE WHOLE THING
2. Id is the only person running this one. There is no someone else, there is no me, there is no you... ID IS RUNNING IT.
3. If Id is not here... this tournament stagnates. Let it do so.
4. Just cause it's not running at this moment, does not mean the idea is trashed.
Now just shut up and let it sit until Id gets back.
Vance
08-22-2007, 08:32 PM
You're mean to me. I'm going to tell. :bees
Violent By Design
08-22-2007, 08:45 PM
I saw this coming. Id should of been more patient and have the FBL after the Naruto Tournament.
Vance
08-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Lol, my days of arguing with Kyon, made me anxious for more.
Esponer
08-29-2007, 07:18 PM
Distracted, there's really no need to get edgy with Vance.
I hope nobody minds that I'm unstickying this for the time being. If Id PMs me to tell me that he's restarting FBL, I'll sticky it again immediately.
Vance
08-29-2007, 07:19 PM
Such a great idea gone to waste. :(
Elite Uchiha
08-29-2007, 08:07 PM
Y shud we wait... im thirsty for some rematches
Violent By Design
08-30-2007, 02:14 AM
Distracted, there's really no need to get edgy with Vance.
I hope nobody minds that I'm unstickying this for the time being. If Id PMs me to tell me that he's restarting FBL, I'll sticky it again immediately.
Should of been done long ago.
Genis-Vell
09-04-2007, 09:36 PM
I deemed the pair tournament a failure.
In the sense, it to complicated, or to much involvement for members to keep interest.
However, lets kick FBL in gear.
Amalgam style.
Genis-Vell
09-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Ok so it took longer then what I thought.
But the idea kicks ass.
Its simple, different, and most importantly - F.U.N.
FBL - We do shit differently.
Oh and Sticky please.
First Wave
FBL Amalgam - GaruTekra vs. Kyon
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=273876
electric Eric vs. hyuuga_neji14732
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=273877
Crimson Magician vs. Blaizen
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=273878
FBL Amalgam - edyh vs. tiger
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=273881
Spell
09-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Um, Id this is FBL thread, not Amalgam >___<
So stick this one?
Cochise
09-26-2007, 12:16 PM
I guess the FBL and the Amalgam are now the same...
Spell
09-26-2007, 01:38 PM
Isn't FBL a pair tournament?
Esponer
09-26-2007, 01:52 PM
It seems the pair tournament has been removed for now.
Id, your thread has been stickied, but if this is going to be the discussion thread for the Amalgam tournament, would you please edit the original post to avoid confusion? If you want to make a totally new thread, I'll move all the posts about Amalgam here into there and stick it for you.
Cochise
09-26-2007, 03:42 PM
There are a few things that need to be discussed but this dilemma has me perplexed...
Elemental affinities...Body or Mind
This is a must know when dealing with Asuma's knives
Esponer
09-26-2007, 03:46 PM
We're going to have to go with whatever Id says, as I doubt we'll find a consensus. I'd vote for one's elemental affinity being connected to the body, not the mind.
Cochise
09-26-2007, 03:59 PM
I was thinking the opposite because of Shikamaru's Kage Mane Shuriken...We need to work out a few things before we proceed...I can't believe I'm calling for a delay
Esponer
09-26-2007, 04:02 PM
Could you clarify on your reasoning, redrazorback? I'm sure it's reasonable, but I'm not sure what you mean yet.
Kakashi and Yamato's explanation was that an elemental affinity was the element that your chakra naturally leans to. Kakuzu was able to 'steal' the elemental affinities of others by integrating their hearts into his body, and the heart seems to also be the centre of the Inner Coils, which is the chakra network in the body. Kakuzu stealing others' affinities makes more sense to me if the affinity is something encoded in that person's Inner Coils, rather than a matter of their mind or spirit.
Cochise
09-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Asuma's knives take the "chakra nature" of the user...For Asuma and Naruto it was their natural wind affinity but Shikamaru's Kage Mane to my knowledge isn't natural its learned (mind) ...So this "Nature" to me seems like a spiritual thing, something in the mind...I had a more reasonable reason earlier but I forgot if I ever remember it I'll post it
Distracted
09-26-2007, 05:08 PM
The body has any physical traits of the user, speed, strength, etc... however, the jutsu and such are all of the mind in Id's tournament.
For example, I have Naruto's body, which has the kyuubi bijuu in it for a trait. However, the jutsu that can be used is the Kage Mane that shikamaru use. The worst part is I can't have him use Kage Bunshin because Shikamaru doesn't necessarily know kage bunshin.
that explain it for you guys?
Cochise
09-26-2007, 06:17 PM
The body has any physical traits of the user, speed, strength, etc... however, the jutsu and such are all of the mind in Id's tournament.
For example, I have Naruto's body, which has the kyuubi bijuu in it for a trait. However, the jutsu that can be used is the Kage Mane that shikamaru use. The worst part is I can't have him use Kage Bunshin because Shikamaru doesn't necessarily know kage bunshin.
that explain it for you guys?I understand that u silly little bearded man...My whole thing is 'How do we know what affinity Asuma's knives take if the Mind is Shika and the Body is Asuma???' You can substitute those characters for others if you want...My point is how do you know?...What if you gave those knives to a Naruto body...is Hien usable...What if you gave the knives to a Naruto mind...Is Hien usable...There's alot of gray area to me
Distracted
09-26-2007, 06:23 PM
I understand that u silly little bearded man...My whole thing is 'How do we know what affinity Asuma's knives take if the Mind is Shika and the Body is Asuma???' You can substitute those characters for others if you want...My point is how do you know?...What if you gave those knives to a Naruto body...is Hien usable...What if you gave the knives to a Naruto mind...Is Hien usable...There's alot of gray area to me
I don't understand your confusion.
If Shika is in control of Asuma's body using the knives, then the knives will be able to use the shadows abilities. You'll just have to prove that Shika would be more effective in Asuma's body.
If you gave those to a Naruto's body then it depends on the mind. Any element that the mind can use will be what the body can use.
Basically for the tournament assume that the affinity is transferred with the mind. Any elemental abilities used by the mind of the character can be used in the knives.
Cochise
09-26-2007, 06:32 PM
I'm fine with that...
Genis-Vell
09-26-2007, 08:46 PM
Sorry about the confusion.
I deemed the pair tournament a failure ( I some what posted this in this thread). So FBL, moved on with the next theme.
Keep in mind, FBL is not pairs tournament only. Its more or less an organization dedicated to bring a new flavor after every tournament. None the less, I will modify the first two posts, so it concedes with the current tournament theme/rules.
None the less, thanks for the sticky. (Esponer or Risu)
I got your PM, It seems I have bad luck in kicking off tournaments at the same time as the other.
Ill try not to post to many matches at once.
And I will still discuss on how should be added, kicked out or limited.
@ red razorback - what was the dilemma again?
Esponer
09-27-2007, 08:23 AM
Basically for the tournament assume that the affinity is transferred with the mind. Any elemental abilities used by the mind of the character can be used in the knives.
Why do you believe that the affinity is transferred with the mind, when Kakuzu stole the affinities of others by stealing a part of their body other than their brain?
Cochise
09-27-2007, 12:47 PM
I say we just roll with the Mind/Affinity thing for now and work on it later...
@Id...Since the matches are one on one how would you feel with cutting the starting distances to 30 or 40 metres...The standard tournament has already done so and I think it would work better for this one aswell
Genis-Vell
09-27-2007, 10:24 PM
I say we just roll with the Mind/Affinity thing for now and work on it later...
@Id...Since the matches are one on one how would you feel with cutting the starting distances to 30 or 40 metres...The standard tournament has already done so and I think it would work better for this one aswell
mmm...point taken. Ill check this out in wave 2.
Oh and I have something planed for the next FBL tourney.
I shall wait for this one to settle down, and clear the smoke.
But some of you will be vary happy, and others will be utterly pissed.
But keep in mind, I am taking the next one the vary next level.
Han Solo
10-09-2007, 02:18 PM
I geuss I'm in the camp that one's Elemental Recomposition level is via one's body, i.e the Chakra coils....
Kakuzu's stealing the hearts of people for their Elemental affinity confirmed that for me.
Esponer
10-10-2007, 08:37 AM
A note about match threads.
A maximum of four active at any time will be imposed from now onwards. If a fifth is posted, it will be locked until one of the earlier ones is finished. It doesn't matter if that fifth match thread posted is MB:T, FBL or an exhibition match.
Violent By Design
10-10-2007, 02:00 PM
Agreed theres to much of that stuff. Especially the exhibition matches which I think are pointless.
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