The Official NarutoForums Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournament

[TenshiOni]

Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournament

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1205/tourneylogogp4cz3.png (http://imageshack.us)

The day has finally arrived, my fellow combatants. The day has finally arrived to put all our preparation and training to the test and prove just who is the Pokeymans master around here!
Welcome, participants and spectators, to the 1st official Naruto Forums Pokemon Diamond/Pearl tournament!!!

Note: If you've had a name change, please inform me in this thread so t hat we can avoid confusion.

Rules:

* Lvl 50 or 100 (Wi-Fi does this automatically so no need to worry)
* No clones allowed (as in, two of the same Poke)
* Hold items are allowed but no duplicates! You can't have two Leftovers, for example.
* OHKO moves (Fissure, Sheer Cold, etc) are banned
* Double Team and Minimize are banned
* Thunderdome-style finale/ single elimination
* Participants will be responsible for scheduling their matches within 24-48 hours of the scheduled round. Failure to participate with the agreed upon match will result in a forfeit.

The following Pokemon are NOT allowed:

Mewtwo
Mew
Wobbafett
Ho-Oh
Lugia
Dialga
Palkia
Giranta
Groundon
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Darkai
Wynaut
Regigigas
Deoxys
Arceus

Official Tournament Match-Up Bracket Round 2+:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7435/nfbracket2rf2.jpg
Final Results:
Kitsune vs Alcazar
Winner: Alcazar

Champion: Alcazar
Elite 4: Kitsune, Mecha Wolf, Duy Nguyen, Hero's Card

Semi-Final Results:
Mecha Wolf vs Kitsune
Winner: Kitsune

Duy Nguyen vs Alcazar
Winner: Alcazar
Round 3 Results:
Mecha Wolf vs Davee vs Hero's Card
Winner: Mecha Wolf

Duy Nguyen vs Skeets vs Reikai Demon
Winner: Duy Nguyen

Kitsune vs Shadow Blade vs Nico
Winner:

Shinji vs 2Shea vs Alcazar
Winner: Alcazar

Round 2 Results:

Block A:

Mecha Wolf vs Serp
Winner: Mecha Wolf

Davee vs Artificial Sunshine vs Sasuke_Uchiha
Winner: Davee

Countach vs Hero's Card
Winner: Hero's Card

Block B:

Duy Nguyen vs ~Kira Yamato~
Winner: Duy Nguyen

Skeets vs Dreikoo
Winner: Skeets

Mystictrunks vs ReikaiDemon vs Black Smoke
Winner: ReikaiDemon

Block C:

Kitsune vs Kewlmyc
Winner: Kitsune

Shadow Blade vs Ha-Ri
Winner: Shadow Blade

FoxStick vs Nico
Winner: Nico

Block D:

Shinji vs Basye
Winner: Shinji

Alcazar vs Dynamic Dragon
Winner: Alcazar

2Shea vs Kagemizu
Winner: 2Shea

Round 1 Results:

Slumpy vs Mecha Wolf
Winner: Mecha Wolf

Serp vs Sasugay
Winner: Serp by forfeit

Uchiha Fury vs Smackd
Winner:

mew42003 vs Hiyatsu
Winner:

Gintoki vs Davee
Winner:

ANBUKage vs Crazymtf
Winner:

Hero's Card vs Yoshitsune
Winner:

Countach vs Shikamaru Uzumaki
Winner: Countach by lack of opponent ever showing up

Duy Nguyen vs Mikuruki
Winner: Duy Nguyen

~Kira Yamato~ vs Taichi
Winner: ~Kira Yamato~

TenshiOni vs Skeets
Winner: Skeets

Dreikoo vs syclo421
Winner: Dreikoo via no show

Dotaitos16z vs Mystictrunks
Winner: Mystuctrunks

ReikaiDemon vs Taciturnity
Winner:

GIR-Kun vs BlackSmoke
Winner: BlackSmoke

Karin vs Alcazar
Winner: Alcazar

NaraShikamaru vs Kewlmyc
Winner: Kewlmyc

Kitsune vs MushroomBoy
Winner: Kitsune via forfeit

VaporOfTheStars vs J
Winner:

Linkaro 2.0 vs Shadow Blade
Winner: Shadow Blade

Ha-ri vs ATES
Winner:

O-Ren vs Fox Stick
Winner: FoxStick

Nico vs Rocklee1234
Winner: Nico

Artificial_Sunshine vs Ritzbitz8
Winner:

Shinji vs OniTasku
Winner: Shinji

Basye vs TypeZERO
Winner: Basye

Slimscane vs Silent Storm
Winner: Silent Storm

Blind Itachi vs Dynamic Dragon
Winner: Dynamic Dragon

2Shea vs Hagi
Winner: 2Shea

Pibrebaut vs Jiraiya12345
Winner:

Sir. Cruz vs Hyde
Winner:

Kagemizu vs ChickenNoodleSoupxD
Winner: Kagemizu via forfeit
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Alright, this is the place for discussion and information. Please post the results of all matches here.

If you're having problems contacting your opponent, know that they have up to 24 hours to respond. Matches can take place up to 48 hours of their scheduled time if personal reasons cause delay. If an opponent has failed to contact you within 24 hours as of this post then they are disqualified.

Please inform me via THIS THREAD of all tournament updates.


And with all that said.............

BATTORU!!!!!

The first ever Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Tournament is officially underway.

[basye]

yes I cant find my opponent TypeZERO username I even checked

[Mecha Wolf]

Round: 1st

Block: A

Matchup: Mecha Wolf vs. Stumpy

Winner: Mecha Wolf

Additional Note: I have asked him to PM your and Kira confirming the result. He had responded saying he has done so.

[TenshiOni]

yes I cant find my opponent TypeZERO username I even checked
Check the name change thread. It's possible he changed his name.
Round: 1st

Matchup: Mecha Wolf vs. Stumpy

Winner: Mecha Wolf

Additional Note: I have asked him to PM your and Kira confirming the result. He had responded saying he has done so.
Yeah, I just recently got his PM.

Going to update the 1st post now.

[Judgemento]

I have sent Yoshitsune my PM. Currently awaiting answer.

[Serp]

so i guess its me next ey :oh

[Alcazar]

TenshiOni you got Block B and Block C mixed up.

[TenshiOni]

TenshiOni you got Block B and Block C mixed up.
Thanks. Fixed that.

[Marufuji Ryo]

I made a speical kind Tournament tree so it could be used as an update tree for the tournament. By this I mean it will display the winners of a match showing them how far they are in the tournament, I made one for each block.

Want to use it. I can constantly update it if you like.

[TenshiOni]

^Sounds awesome. Let's see it. :D

[Marufuji Ryo]

OK, I will post the first block, hold on a minute.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7782/map1gy3.png (http://imageshack.us)



Red means the winner advances

[TenshiOni]

If you could continue to update that, that would be great.

Oh, and could I get that NarutoFan Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Wi-Fi Tournament logo for the 1st post? Preferably with a clear background.

[Kitsune]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Matchup: Kitsune vs. MushroomBoy

Winner: Kitsune

Additional Note: Default win, I PMd MushroomBoy who said he forfeits. Can forward PM for proof if required.

[Marufuji Ryo]

OK, I would update it when needed.

You mean this logo.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7404/jhhhhixj0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Credits go to 2Shea.

[Dreikoo]

My opponent syclo421 is not a member of the forums so i can't contact him so i post now to notify you that he probably won't show. (he was put into the tournament by word of another member)

[Judgemento]

:oh Lol Kitsune x]

Congrats ^__^ With the team we though of they better forfeit or suffer a slow death muahahaha. xD

[basye]

Round: 1st

Block: D

Matchup: Basye vs TypeZERO

Winner: Basye

Additional Note: I have asked him to PM your and Kira confirming the result. .

[Pein]

yes and i just pm'ed him

[Nico]

Nico vs Rocklee1234

Winner: Nico

[TenshiOni]

Will update now.

[2Shea]

Round: 1st

Block: D

Matchup: 2Shea vs. Hagi

Winner: 2Shea

Additional Note: Winner by default. Hagi has decided not to participate. PMed confiming so, will forward as proof, and asked him to PM Tenshi and Kira aswell.
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I will also be updating the main bracket, and Tenshi I can get you a big version of the logo w/ a transparent background if needed.

[TenshiOni]

^That would be appreciated.

[Alcazar]

Round: 1st

Block: B

Matchup: Karin vs. Alcazar

Winner: Alcazar

[Shadow Blade]

Sent Linkaro a PM, waiting for reply

[2Shea]

Here is the large, transparent, Tournament logo:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1584/tourneylogogp4.png

[TenshiOni]

^Thanks, 2Shea.

And so skeets utterly destroys me. :(

Updating.

[Portaljacker]

I'm still waiting for BlackSmoke to respond to my request for a match at 8PM EST. I might have other problems. Such as the forum errors and my power keeps randomly failing. It's happened twice now. I'll keep you updated.

[Davee]

I PM'd Gintoki, waiting for a response.

[Shadow Blade]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Matchup: Linkaro 2.0 vs. Shadow Blade

Winner: Shadow Blade

[NaraShikamaru]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Match-up: NaraShikamaru vs Kewlmyc

Winner: Kewlmyc

Note: Kewlmyc has went through by default as I have pulled out of the match. I sorta forgot about the tournament and haven't really been interested in playing Diamond lately so my Pokemon are still lower leveled.

[kewlmyc]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Match-up: NaraShikamaru vs Kewlmyc

Winner: Kewlmyc

Note: Kewlmyc has went through by default as I have pulled out of the match. I sorta forgot about the tournament and haven't really been interested in playing Diamond lately so my Pokemon are still lower leveled.

Thanks, I was just about to post the same thing.:)

[Dotaitos16z]

Hey, are we supposed to do best 2 out of three? or just one battle?
If it is just one battle then ... 8( the following is the result

Mystictrunks VS. Dotaitos16z
Winner:Mystictrunks

[Blind Itachi]

*sigh* i thought this started in monday... lol... well. i'll fight DD when he's ready...
You can use my msn to contact me... the forums are really bad...

[Mecha Wolf]

Hey, are we supposed to do best 2 out of three? or just one battle?
If it is just one battle then ... 8( the following is the result

Mystictrunks VS. Dotaitos16z
Winner:Mystictrunks

Single elimination. So one battle only.

[Dynamic Dragon]

BI, hi there 8)
im ready when u are, please go here so we can chat http://pub41.bravenet.com/chat/show.php/3486322551

[Duy Nguyen]

Duy Nguyen vs. Miruki

Winner: Duy

GG to Miruki by the way.

[Dynamic Dragon]

block D: blind Itachi vs DD
winner: DD

[BlackSmoke]

:( Got my match in 17 mins wish me luck. I have butterflies in my stomach.

[foxStick]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Matchup: foxStick vs. O-Ren

Winner: foxStick

Additional Note: Default win. I have been informed he lost his DS and cannot participate. I have requested that he post confirmation in this thread, and can forward PM to Kira.

[BlackSmoke]

How long till you auto win been 20 mins and my opponent has not shown up for a match he setted the time for >.>

[TenshiOni]

^He has until 24 hours as of the 1st post...unless personal reasons get in the way and then he has 48 hours to set-up the re-match within that time.

[Portaljacker]

How long till you auto win been 20 mins and my opponent has not shown up for a match he setted the time for >.>
I had a power outage. I need to restart. I used the wrong team.

[Portaljacker]

How long till you auto win been 20 mins and my opponent has not shown up for a match he setted the time for >.>
I had a power outage. I need to restart. I used the wrong team.

[BlackSmoke]

Lol 500 error
Well B Block
Gir-Kun Vs BlackSmoke
winner
Me of course he will send u a confirmation pm or whatever :D

[Portaljacker]

I lost but I forgot that my brother's Cyndaquill was still in my team after I traded him for it.

[BlackSmoke]

Itachi wanna battle? mono battle ?
till you drop? Roll battle, roll battle MEDABOOOOOTS....
Er yeah check to see if my friend code is still the same in ur pal thingy cuz i got a new ds jus make sure k
Ill battle ya!

[Lazybook]

Round: 1st

Block: D

Matchup: Shinji vs OniTasku

Winner: Shinji

[Kagemizu]

has any heard from ChickenNoodleSoupXD? I been waiting since 5 this morning

[Shadow Blade]

wait. tomorrow is round 2. what about those who haven't completed round 1 like my next opponents?

[Kagemizu]

Round: 1st

Block D Block

Match Up Kagemizu vs ChickenNoodleSoupXD

Winner Kagemizu (due to forfeit)

[Ha-ri]

Round: 1st

Block C Block

Match Up Ha-ri vs ATES

Winner N/A

Still haven't been able to contact him.

[Shadow Blade]

the only thing you can do is search for his name and sned him a PM. if by tomorrow he doesn't answer, the victory is yours

[Sir.Cruz]

No word of Hyde for me D:

Kagemizu and I are up next?:omg

[The Drunken Monkey]

This is strange. >.< Kira hasn't been online all week. Hope nothing bad happened.

[Judgemento]

^Yea I noticed too :/ Hopefully is nothing.

[Biscuits]

Block A is really slacking.

[TenshiOni]

Well, unless I hear anything, Block A will mostly be all disqualified. o.o

If that happens, we may have to mix up the tournament, guys. Re-do the brackets using the surviving competitors to make it fair.

[Davee]

Well, there is no response from my opponent--Gintoki.

Gintoki - Last Activity: 06-16-2007 03:52 PM
o.o

[Mecha Wolf]

I say just start a new Tourney. Half of the people are not even here or don't care. Have a sign up sheet for a tourney that starts in a week, so you'll know that people who sign up will actually be there.

[TenshiOni]

^I don't think an entirely new tournament is in order just yet but we may hold the 2nd official tournament earlier than planned because of this.

Because I didn't expect Kira to no show, I made the mistake of not bothering to send PMs to all participants at least 3 days before the tournament.

Rest assured this won't happen with the second official tourney.

[Marufuji Ryo]

I agree with Mecha.

I had a feeling most people would not compete in the tournament.

Block A is pratcially dead, some other blocks are lacking aswell, not alot of people have posted in this thread, most have forgotten or don't care and some dropped out.

[Judgemento]

I'm still contacting Yoshi... We haven't able to get on a agreement. Mostly due to personal reasons both his and mines but I expect our battle today.

[TenshiOni]

I agree with Mecha.

I had a feeling most people would not compete in the tournament.

Block A is pratcially dead, some other blocks are lacking aswell, not alot of people have posted in this thread, most have forgotten or don't care and some dropped out.
What's wrong with simply re-organizing the brackets for the remaining people? It would be fair, no?

[Marufuji Ryo]

I did not say anything was wrong with it?

[basye]

What's wrong with simply re-organizing the brackets for the remaining people? It would be fair, no?
I agree with u

[2Shea]

I think we should continue like any normal tournament would. Deal with the dropouts by just counting them as losses, and let the remaining people move on. The ones left are the ones whom would have moved on anyway. Besides this 2nd & 3 round will weed out any last dropouts.

A Block was hit the hardest, but I think we can cope and just continue on and finish out the tourney.

[TenshiOni]

^Re-organization is definitely in order though since it's now become incredibly likely Mecha will make it to the Elite 4 as all he needs to do is win 1 more match.

[Nico]

Artificial_Sunshine vs Ritzbitz8

Who will be my opponent. o_O;

[Shadow Blade]

block A is very empty :|

[Marufuji Ryo]

Round: 1st

Block: D

Matchup: Silent Storm vs. slimscane
Winner: Silent Storm

^Re-organization is definitely in order though since it's now become incredibly likely Mecha will make it to the Elite 4 as all he needs to do is win 1 more match.

Well if thats the case, are you going to redo who fights who so everyone fights a new person with the exception of of redoing Block A.

[TenshiOni]

Even though it is technically time for day 2 of the tournament please hold off on the matches because they most likely won't be your next opponents.

After I hear from a few people (Yoshitsune vs Hero's Card, for one) I'm going to completely re-do the brackets via random drawing using the remaining competitors.

[Marufuji Ryo]

So you are going to redo the brackets.

Thats cool, considering the fact that I had to face Dynamic Dragon next round X_X.

[Mecha Wolf]

I guess a redo will be cool too.

*Crosses finger hoping not to get Duy*

[TenshiOni]

As it is, we have 15 people ready to advance. With the winner of Yoshi vs Hero that'll be 16 but we're still forgetting all the others that are still waiting on their opponents.

(Speaking of which, to all people who have no heard from their opponents in the last 24 hours and still wish to participate in the tournament, please speak up. Your opponent is disqualified.)

I realize that's not enough for a good tournament set-up, though. So we're going to need at least 24 people so that we can break this down into 3 brackets of 8. And then the final 3 people will have to fight best of 2 out of 3 matches or something to determine the Champion.

We'll worry about the Elite 4 after the fact.

This may require some people to rejoin the tournament if we can't reach 24, though.

Blind Itachi, me, and a few others may have a second chance if we need to.

[Artificial_Sunshine]

Um, my opponent is still missing, does that mean I've won? (Or do I verse someone else?)

[Marufuji Ryo]

Well, would be it be a pain if I drop out.

I would still do an update tournament tree, its just that I have lost the battling feel.

[TenshiOni]

There'd be no gain in you dropping out, though. I mean, we're not going to have 16 either way unless even more people drop. We're going to have to aim for 24 people left and simply re-do the brackets.

Of course, if you really don't feel like going on, that's fine. No one's forcing you to compete.

And yeah, you win your match, Artificial_Sunshine.

[Marufuji Ryo]

OK, I will drop out.

But is it alright if I still do an update tournament tree.

[Marufuji Ryo]

OK, I will drop out.

But is it alright if I still do an update tournament tree.

[Davee]

I still want in!

[Serp]

Round: 1st

Block: A

Matchup: The Serp vs. sasugay

Winner: The Serp( by default)

[Dotaitos16z]

Hey, could I help fill up a spot? My battle with Mystictrunks was pretty close. I dare say that I could put up a good fight, and I've got more teams that I want to try.

[Dreikoo]

This may require some people to rejoin the tournament if we can't reach 24, though.

Blind Itachi, me, and a few others may have a second chance if we need to.

I don't think this should happen just so that the turney will have the correct number of participants....you lost fair and square and it's not fair to get a second chance just cause some (a lot) people didn't show...if you're not gonna scratch the whole turney and start again then like we'll uphold the winner's privilage to participate to the "configured" turney we should do the same with the losers....it's better to have you draw some lucky people to advance a round without battling than reentering people who lost fair and square cause if the lucky ones don't deserve to advance a round they'll surely lose the next thus not contaminating the e4 and if they deserve to win then no harm is done.

@skeets: you lucked out :P....i'll see ya at the finals :)

[Serp]

Hey Devin XD whats up

[Biscuits]

@Dreikoo: How did I luck out? Cause I don't have to battle you?if that's the case you got it all wrong.It was YOU who lucked out,thank you very much....http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u154/Skeets_Sigs/13.gif

[Countach]

my opponent has not made a post in 10 days

[TenshiOni]

I don't think this should happen just so that the turney will have the correct number of participants....you lost fair and square and it's not fair to get a second chance just cause some (a lot) people didn't show...if you're not gonna scratch the whole turney and start again then like we'll uphold the winner's privilage to participate to the "configured" turney we should do the same with the losers....it's better to have you draw some lucky people to advance a round without battling than reentering people who lost fair and square cause if the lucky ones don't deserve to advance a round they'll surely lose the next thus not contaminating the e4 and if they deserve to win then no harm is done.

@skeets: you lucked out :P....i'll see ya at the finals :)
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not suggesting this just to get a second chance. I know I lost and I'm perfectly fine with that.

But I don't agree with "drawing some lucky people." That scenario only leaves us with unhappy people and it's not fair to those who prepared hard for the tournament.

And what's with the "contaminating of the Elite 4" and they'll "surely lose." Stop talking like an elitist.

Look, we have over 16 people remaining.

Some suggestions as to how to approach the rest of the tournament are welcomed. And no, I will not simply eliminate people for the sake of having 16.

[Countach]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not suggesting this just to get a second chance. I know I lost and I'm perfectly fine with that.

But I don't agree with "drawing some lucky people." That scenario only leaves us with unhappy people and it's not fair to those who prepared hard for the tournament.

And what's with the "contaminating of the Elite 4" and they'll "surely lose." Stop talking like an elitist.

Look, we have over 16 people remaining.

Some suggestions as to how to approach the rest of the tournament are welcomed. And no, I will not simply eliminate people for the sake of having 16.

i say wait another day and disqualify anyone who has yet to battle. if that means that someone gets an automatic E4 title then so be it. Thats just life

[TenshiOni]

We need 4 people left and we can do the 24 thing.

One of those 4 will be either Hero or Yoshitsune.

So if 3 more winners can step forward it's easy.

[TenshiOni]

i say wait another day and disqualify anyone who has yet to battle. if that means that someone gets an automatic E4 title then so be it. Thats just life
No, I don't think it's fair to the Block B people to have to face one extra opponent than Block A people. It makes more sense to simply re-do the brackets.

[Countach]

We need 4 people left and we can do the 24 thing.

One of those 4 will be either Hero or Yoshitsune.

So if 3 more winners can step forward it's easy.

i'll take a win since the kid hasn't been here for 10 days

[Dreikoo]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not suggesting this just to get a second chance. I know I lost and I'm perfectly fine with that.

But I don't agree with "drawing some lucky people." That scenario only leaves us with unhappy people and it's not fair to those who prepared hard for the tournament.

And what's with the "contaminating of the Elite 4" and they'll "surely lose." Stop talking like an elitist.

Look, we have over 16 people remaining. Currently 20.

Some suggestions as to how to approach the rest of the tournament are welcomed. And no, I will not simply eliminate people for the sake of having 16.

First of all this wasn't aimed at you personally but rather all "candidates: for the unfair second chance .

Secondly...why is elitist to think that if one of those lucky drawn people to advance without battling does not worth advancing it he'll lose on the next round with opponents surely harder than those who he would fight on the previous round? I don't get it. And the contaminating part was about having someone who is weak be a part of the e4.

And lastly i do not want you to cut people. If you can, accept new entries if you can't allow some people to progress without battling(if they were gonna lose and wouldn't progress then they'll surely lose the next round and if they would have won then no harm done)... just do not give people who lost fair and square a second chance. That's all.

[TenshiOni]

Already counted you in the 20.

Oh, and it seems Kira posted recently. So he or Taichi may be winner #22.

[Countach]

No, I don't think it's fair to the Block B people to have to face one extra opponent than Block A people. It makes more sense to simply re-do the brackets.

life's not fair in general. the fact is this is how kira made the brackets. And your arguments about free victories can be made just by saying that a really good player got lucky and gets to face 4 noobs on his way to the championship

[ReikaiDemon]

OMG! It's June!?! Oh fuck, my clocks are all off, I'm still stuck in May! :cry Uhh...Well, I just PMed my opponent five minutes ago, what's the deadline?

[2Shea]

Well lets just see if we can get some results from these groups of Hero v. Yoshi, and Kira v. Taichi.

All the people whom dropped out etc. were indeed "n00bs" and most likely wouldn't have kept the people remaining from advancing to the point they will anwyay... There is a clear group of good players here whom would have went a long way no matter what.

But just remember everyone, its just a tournament, a POKEMON tournament lol, and in the end this is all just for fun.

[Serp]

Shea, fun :oh
this has far exceeded the realm of fun :yell this is WAR!!!!

[TenshiOni]

First of all this wasn't aimed at you personally but rather all "candidates: for the unfair second chance .

Secondly...why is elitist to think that if one of those lucky drawn people to advance without battling does not worth advancing it he'll lose on the next round with opponents surely harder than those who he would fight on the previous round? I don't get it.
You're assuming that the matches weren't close or anything though. Just because someone lost doesn't mean they necessary "they're unworthy" or that they'll "contaminate the Elite 4." It's possible that they lost by one Pokemon, is it not?

Contrary to popular belief, Pokemon DOES involve a certain amount of luck. Some people lose entire matches solely due to missing moves or an abundance of critical hits on the opponent's side. Not everyone uses 100% accurate moves and for good reason on some Pokemon (Megahorn on Heracross, Stone Edge on Rhyperior, etc.). And if someone uses Sandstorm, certain Pokemon can take advantage of that and totally turn the tide of battle due to Sand Veil (I'm looking at you, Garchomp).

And not everyone's of the same skill level here so it's not correct to say someone's 1st match would surely be easier than their 2nd match. Pokemon IS a situational game, after all. With near 50 different commonly used Pokemon, teams ARE different and some teams are just better suited for other teams than others. It's too hard to counter everything in this game.

And the contaminating part was about having someone who is weak be a part of the e4.
And what, because they lose one match they're "weak"? Like I just explained, they simply could've been up against an opponent that happened to have Pokemon perfect for countering their team.

And lastly i do not want you to cut people. If you can, accept new entries if you can't allow some people to progress without battling(if they were gonna lose and wouldn't progress then they'll surely lose the next round and if they would have won then no harm done)... just do not give people who lost fair and square a second chance. That's all.
It doesn't look like we'll have to worry too much, fortunately.

If Kira fights Taichi and Hero fights Yoshi we'll just need 2 people to step forward. 2 people already in the tournament with no show opponents, that is.

[TenshiOni]

OMG! It's June!?! Oh fuck, my clocks are all off, I'm still stuck in May! :cry Uhh...Well, I just PMed my opponent five minutes ago, what's the deadline?
You're fine. If your opponent doesn't contact you within 24 hours he/she is disqualified.

Hopefully we won't have to wait that long, though.

This is perfect. Now we have 23.

[ReikaiDemon]

You're fine. If your opponent doesn't contact you within 24 hours he/she is disqualified.

Hopefully we won't have to wait that long, though.

This is perfect. Now we have 23.
Is that 24 hours from now(from when I PM'ed Taciturnity), or 24 hours from when the first round started(11-ish o' clock last night)?

[Davee]

I think setting up the tournament as double-elimination (W/L brackets) would be better.
I'm not sure about having it as block for the results are only based on winner for that block.
If we go on with the tournament with double-elimination, those who have lost have a chance to fight others who they would've won against and you can crown the Elite Four after the tournament is done.
By doing this, the ranking would be more sound and the Elite Four would be who they should be.

I hope the way I wrote it made sense.

[TenshiOni]

Is that 24 hours from now(from when I PM'ed Taciturnity), or 24 hours from when the first round started(11-ish o' clock last night)?
From the PM.

But he may just be eliminated cuz his account says he hasn't signed on since the morning of the 21st.

[Dreikoo]

You're assuming that the matches weren't close or anything though. Just because someone lost doesn't mean they necessary "they're unworthy" or that they'll "contaminate the Elite 4." It's possible that they lost by one Pokemon, is it not?

Contrary to popular belief, Pokemon DOES involve a certain amount of luck. Some people lose entire matches solely due to missing moves or an abundance of critical hits on the opponent's side. Not everyone uses 100% accurate moves and for good reason on some Pokemon (Megahorn on Heracross, Stone Edge on Rhyperior, etc.). And if someone uses Sandstorm, certain Pokemon can take advantage of that and totally turn the tide of battle due to Sand Veil (I'm looking at you, Garchomp).

And not everyone's of the same skill level here so it's not correct to say someone's 1st match would surely be easier than their 2nd match. Pokemon IS a situational game, after all. With near 50 different commonly used Pokemon, teams ARE different and some teams are just better suited for other teams than others. It's too hard to counter everything in this game.


And what, because they lose one match they're "weak"? Like I just explained, they simply could've been up against an opponent that happened to have Pokemon perfect for countering their team.


It doesn't look like we'll have to worry too much, fortunately.

If Kira fights Taichi and Hero fights Yoshi we'll just need 2 people to step forward. 2 people already in the tournament with no show opponents, that is.

While all you say does apply...there's still more of a chance of what i'm describing to be true. Not ALL losers will lose with just one pokemon left on their opponent...most would lose with 6 pokemon left in their opponent with the exception of block B actually...and no they're not worthless in general...but losing just one match and wining just ONE match is all it's gonna take for us to decide who the champion (the best out of us all) is thus i believe it can also be a way to decide less important stuff...like who are the objectively weaker people.

And luck is everywhere and in everything...just cause your opponent lucked out it doesn't mean he'd lose the match without the freezing or the critical.

[ReikaiDemon]

From the PM.

But he may just be eliminated cuz his account says he hasn't signed on since the morning of the 21st.
:cry Really? Aww....Man, I was hoping to have at least one wi-fi battle experience at all, plus as a rookie, it feels suckage to win on default <.< I am so gonna get killed in the second round ;.;

[TenshiOni]

While all you say does apply...there's still more of a chance of what i'm describing to be true. Not ALL losers will lose with just one pokemon left on their opponent...most would lose with 6 pokemon left in their opponent with the exception of block B actually...and no they're not worthless in general...but losing just one match and wining just ONE match is all it's gonna take for us to decide who the champion (the best out of us all) is thus i believe it can also be a way to decide less important stuff...like who are the objectively weaker people.
Well, no shit there's a chance what you're describing is true. Because statistically it would make sense that some were totally destroyed while others barely lost.

And no, it's not, imo, a good way to decide the objectively weaker people. It's called making a generalization and sounding like an elitist while doing it.
And luck is everywhere and in everything...just cause your opponent lucked out it doesn't mean he'd lose the match without the freezing or the critical.
Of course not. I'm just pointing out examples to explain it's wrong to simply classify ANYONE as weak just because they lost their match when you didn't witness the match for yourself and don't know EXACTLY how EVERYTHING went down.

[TenshiOni]

:cry Really? Aww....Man, I was hoping to have at least one wi-fi battle experience at all, plus as a rookie, it feels suckage to win on default <.< I am so gonna get killed in the second round ;.;
Which is why I support re-doing the brackets to have everyone left back at an equal number of opponents to win.

[Kitsune]

Which is why I support re-doing the brackets to have everyone left back at an equal number of opponents to win.

At this point in the tourney I have to really argue against this plan. I'm happy with my underdog bracket the way it is, so please just leave things be.

[TenshiOni]

A new proposition:

If we leave the brackets as is, some people in their respective brackets don't have a match scheduled until tomorrow because they need to wait until the result of another match (not talking about Round 1 matches) to see their next opponent.

What if we take those people and simply assign them to other people with the same problem?

[2Shea]

I think, as of now we should just move on according as planned.

As I stated, the people whom dropped out would have lost their matches anyway (I know it's alot to assume, but there are a clear set of elite members in each bracket who would have advanced to certain points).

Its no harm no foul, I say continue how it is, let these last first round people report in. Then we move on to the next round, holding the battles and advancing whoever needs to be advanced.

The fact is, the tournament should have been organized better, but its too late now to change things as it is in fact already going on.

So I say we just do it better next time, and finish up this one the way it's going now.

[Dreikoo]

And no, it's not, imo, a good way to decide the objectively weaker people. It's called making a generalization and sounding like an elitist while doing it.

Well then the same applies to the winner too...will you not recognize the champion as the best one too because it would be a generalization (he's not the best one he may have lucked out on his final match or his opponent may had the flue or made a wrong move or or or)?There's no way to know ABSOLUTELY everything about the matches thus we let the results to guide us. Or do you recognize the best but not the worst so you will not sound "elitist" ? I'm not a hypocrite (i'm not saying you are) so if i recognize the winners as the best i'll also recognize the losers as worst and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. (expect the PFFFFTpolitical correctness)


A new proposition:

If we leave the brackets as is, some people in their respective brackets don't have a match scheduled until tomorrow because they need to wait until the result of another match (not talking about Round 1 matches) to see their next opponent.

What if we take those people and simply assign them to other people with the same problem?

Yes that sounds ok.

[TenshiOni]

Well, I've decided I'll wait for Kira's ultimate decision on this as he started the tournament in the 1st place. He's online now and is currently planning to battle Taichi before the day is over.

[TenshiOni]

Well then the same applies to the winner too...will you not recognize the champion as the best one too because it would be a generalization (he's not the best one he may have lucked out on his final match or his opponent may had the flue or made a wrong move or or or)?
Champion or not, no, of course I won't recognize him as the above all best. Like I explained, there is a certain amount of luck in Pokemon and there can never truly be one all-true unbeatable Pokemon Master.

I'll acknowledge him, as someone with an extremely well-built team, a top tier pro battler, and lucky (the level of luck depending on his/her bracket).

There's no way to know ABSOLUTELY everything about the matches thus we let the results to guide us. Or do you recognize the best but not the worst so you will not sound "elitist" ? I'm not a hypocrite (i'm not saying you are) so if i recognize the winners as the best i'll also recognize the losers as worst and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. (expect the PFFFFTpolitical correctness)
See my answer above.

No, there's no way I recognize the losers as the worst because there are incidents as you very well know where people of equal skill level just didn't bring the appropriate Poke counters for the cannot-be-completely-predicted opponent team and/or lost due to bad luck.

You're classifying people that lose matches as the "worst" and people who win matches as "the best." It's unfair and dismissive to those who truly did lose by a hair and it is, in my view, a generalization.

[Davee]

It has been over 24 hours since I PM'd Gintoki. I guess I'm advancing?

[TenshiOni]

^Yup, you are. He hasn't even signed on in the last 6 days.

And as soon as Hero vs Yoshi and Kira vs Taichi is done, we have our 24 winners to work with.

And now I see that we have 5 A Block 1st round winners so this tournament may be still do-able if we simply pair off Kagemizu with Davee and Artificial Sunshine with Reikai Blade (or his opponent). :)

[foxStick]

I'm ok with proceeding as planned. I also want to throw out the idea of using this tournament as a sort of "seeding" system for the next one, though I'm not sure how well that'd work.

[Kitsune]

For Round Two, Block C, Kewlmyc and I are having some scheduling conflicts, but we will be battling (if not today then tomorrow). Just wanted to state that.

[Kira Yamato]

Kira Defeats Taichi

[The Drunken Monkey]

^Yeah, confirmed. Beat me pretty bad too. xD
My damn confuse rays didn't work! I was out of luck. ;_;

[Ha-ri]

Well my opponent still hasn't posted, and I haven't been able to contact him so I'm just going to assume I advance..

[BlackSmoke]

And luck is everywhere and in everything...just cause your opponent lucked out it doesn't mean he'd lose the match without the freezing or the critical.

Lawl, my first pokemon was frozen during my match and I still won.



I'll acknowledge him, as someone with an extremely well-built team, a top tier pro battler, and lucky (the level of luck depending on his/her bracket).



Isn't that what a Pokemon Master/Champ is? A person who is skilled and knowledgeable enough to counter other crap and win in this current metagame. Dont be jealous of the soon to be champ. Also was bracket B the hardest?

[Judgemento]

Isn't that what a Pokemon Master/Champ is? A person who is skilled and knowledgeable enough to counter other crap and win in this current metagame.

Lol yes the champion should in theory be knowledgable about the current pokemon who are being used more commonly and should also have a decent amount of trained pokemon to switch between battles, but you cant expect them just because he has this "Champion" title to know everyones team nor can you expect him to win every battle.

Dont be jealous of the soon to be champ.

:oh Lol at this.

[Biscuits]

Since the forum's going super slow can someone just add me on MSN and keep me posted on the situation?

[Judgemento]

It's going great for me so I'll add you skeets. ^^

[Mecha Wolf]

So what's the plan now? Do I still battle Serp in the second round?

[Kagemizu]

Waiting on Sir.Cruz and My scheduled match

[TenshiOni]

^Did Sir.Cruz even show up?

I'll sort up the next stage of the tournament in a bit, guys. Though, I would love Kira's opinion on how to proceed.

[2Shea]

I'm sure we're all anxious to get moving and find out what is going on. But everyone just needs to stay calm about it from now on lol.

Anyway, thanks for taking care of all of this stuff Tenshi, you've done it as well as anyone could haha.

Is Kira busy, it seems he must be with how absent he has been this whole time. Well I hope we can get it all worked out here and keep everyone happy.

[Mecha Wolf]

Round: 2nd

Block: A

Matchup: Mecha Wolf vs. Serp

Winner: Mecha Wolf

[Duy Nguyen]

The fact is, the tournament should have been organized better, but its too late now to change things as it is in fact already going on.

I suggested Double Eliminations 10 million years ago with best 2/3 rounds per match, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Kagemizu]

sir.cruz hasn't shown up and hyde pm'd me because he thought it would be on pbr. so I don't if in defaulted again or what.

[2Shea]

I suggested Double Eliminations 10 million years ago with best 2/3 rounds per match, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Haha well I definately agree with that for the next one :amuse

[Shadow Blade]

Well I can't go to do the second round because I don't know who's my opponent :|

[ReikaiDemon]

Well I can't go to do the second round because I don't know who's my opponent :|
It's linkaro 2.0 isn't it? He's usually topic master in the NaruSaku FC

[TenshiOni]

And the tournament continues!!!

The rest of the tournament will proceed as follows:

Block A:

Mecha Wolf vs Serp

Davee vs Artificial Sunshine vs Sasuke_Uchiha

Countach vs who ever the hell finally wins between Yoshi and Hero

Block B:

Duy Nguyen vs ~Kira Yamato~

Skeets vs Dreikoo

Mystictrunks vs ReikaiDemon vs Black Smoke

Block C:

Kitsune vs Kewlmyc

Shadow Blade vs Ha-Ri

FoxStick vs Nico

Block D:

Shinji vs Basye

Alcazar vs Dynamic Dragon

2Shea vs Kagemizu

-------------------------------------------

As you guys see, some people have been moved around and there is a double elimination round in Block B. That's due to there just being an uneven amount of people left, sorry (and Block B being over-crowded as it is).

Some people who normally would have had to wait an additional day to fight another match have simply been moved to other brackets to avoid that.

And as you guys can see, the brackets will now end with 3 survivors, so yes, double elimination in order the final 4.

3-people matches will simply be decided by the person who wins the most within a pre-decided upon by the group number of matches.

Questions/complaints?

[slimscane]

Haha well I definately agree with that for the next one :amuse

When is that going to be? :nuts

Silent bested me in both team selection, and general skill and knowledge, but next time I think I will do a little better. :laugh

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

Uchiha Fury vs Smackd

Winner: Uchiha Fury(now know as Sasuke_uchiha)

Info: my opponent failede to respond to any pm i sent him

[TenshiOni]

^Oh, good.

Going to change the brackets a little now, then. Adding you to a Block A match against Davee and Artificial.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

so its
Davee vs Artificial Sunshine then the winner v.s me?

[TenshiOni]

No, the three of you have to agree to a certain number of matches and simply see who wins the most of them. Double elimination.

Please PM them ASAP.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok will do

[Mecha Wolf]

Already posted this, but I guess Tenshi must have missed it.

Round: 2nd

Block: A

Matchup: Mecha Wolf vs. Serp

Winner: Mecha Wolf

[2Shea]

Revised Bracket:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7435/nfbracket2rf2.jpg
(excuse the quick job)


Just so we have a new updated one now :amuse

EDIT--
Updated w/ Mecha's win.

[Mecha Wolf]

Can Artificial_Sunshine still be in the tourney? I though anyone who hacks are banned automatically? (Note: We know she has a bunch of pokemons with moves that are unlearnable...)

[Lazybook]

Lol close combat blissey

[Marufuji Ryo]

Who in their right mind would hack a blissey to have close combat and expect not to be caught.

Seems rather dumb, the person derserved to get disqualified.

Stupid attemps at hacking are common with bad players these days.

[Mecha Wolf]

And she seem to be able to hack Abilities. Which might be undetectable and still give her major advantages.

[Marufuji Ryo]

Detecting hacked abilities is hard, but if you do your homework, it is easy ^^.

[TenshiOni]

You own, 2Shea.
Already posted this, but I guess Tenshi must have missed it.

Round: 2nd

Block: A

Matchup: Mecha Wolf vs. Serp

Winner: Mecha Wolf
I didn't.

Rather I ignored it because you went ahead with the match before I OK'd it. =/

But w/e, it turned out Serp was your opponent anyway, without change.

Can Artificial_Sunshine still be in the tourney? I though anyone who hacks are banned automatically? (Note: We know she has a bunch of pokemons with moves that are unlearnable...)
Well then, I advise her opponents to be on the look-out.

If she gives me any reason to suspect here, automatic disqualification.

[Davee]

That's true, it can be hard to detect for sure. I guess an example would be . . . serene grace?

[Mecha Wolf]

You own, 2Shea.

I didn't.

Rather I ignored it because you went ahead with the match before I OK'd it. =/

But w/e, it turned out Serp was your opponent anyway, without change.


Well then, I advise her opponents to be on the look-out.

If she gives me any reason to suspect here, automatic disqualification.

So is there a need for a rematch between me and Serp?

To Sasuke_Uchiha and Davee. If you see any pokemon using moves that they shouldn't have when fighting Artificial_Sunshine (especially Thunder and Blizzard). Report right away.

Here's a link to the D/P Pokedex on Serebii which will give you a list of moves that can be learn by each pokemon: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/

My suggestion is to keep a record of the moves used by each of her pokemon and then go back and make sure they are learnable.

[Artificial_Sunshine]

Can Artificial_Sunshine still be in the tourney? I though anyone who hacks are banned automatically? (Note: We know she has a bunch of pokemons with moves that are unlearnable...)

You really think I'd be THAT stupid? Seriously, I may have blond hair, but I'm not about to go get myself banned, dumb----.


How'about I just list the Pokemon I'm going to use, their attacks, and abilities (I must admit, that Groudon ability on a grass Pokemon is quite genius...)

[Mecha Wolf]

You really think I'd be THAT stupid? Seriously, I may have blond hair, but I'm not about to go get myself banned, dumb----.


How'about I just list the Pokemon I'm going to use, their attacks, and abilities (I must admit, that Groudon ability on a grass Pokemon is quite genius...)

I'm not worry about moves as much as your ability to change abilities, which are harder to detect.

[Shadow Blade]

ok, besides A_S and all. What's the idea with the new bracket? I mean 1 vs. 1... vs 1? And besides I don't even know Ha-Ri :|

[TenshiOni]

^^^Just make sure you don't use anything like that for the tournament.

And no Mecha, it's fine. You two obviously agreed to the match beforehand so it's as good as official for me.

ok, besides A_S and all. What's the idea with the new bracket? I mean 1 vs. 1... vs 1?
Too many people. And I can distribute those 6 without giving one bracket more opponents than the others.

And besides I don't even know Ha-Ri :|
Ok.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

OK thats cool um davee and Artificial Sunshine um 4:00 EST is good for me

ok ill list the attack and weird and thanks for the web page

[Artificial_Sunshine]

How'about 5? I'm in the Hamptons right now, and I'm going to the beach at 2....

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok 5 is good ok the battles go as followes

davee v Artificial Sunshine

winner v me

both losers v each other

winner v 1st winner

winner of final match will update here and no lies if you lose you lose

[TenshiOni]

As long as all 3 people agree with it, I'm fine.

[Serp]

so im confused cos when had our match before the arranged time, do we need a rematch :oh

[Mecha Wolf]

so im confused cos when had our match before the arranged time, do we need a rematch :oh

No, he count it as official cause we both agreed.

[Serp]

oh ok :amuse

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok as long as davee agrees our match are scheduled for 5:00pm EST time or 2:00pm PST if need post here to change times u guys

[Judgemento]

Tenshi is it time yet? I see Tach is on so i'm awaiting for your final confirmation so I can challenge him.

[Mecha Wolf]

Tenshi is it time yet? I see Tach is on so i'm awaiting for your final confirmation so I can challenge him.

So you beat Yoshi, Hero?

[Judgemento]

Um no... we are dealing with that @_@;

[Countach]

sleep

:sgan/_\:sgan

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

is very good

[Davee]

I agree with those times

[Duy Nguyen]

No, the three of you have to agree to a certain number of matches and simply see who wins the most of them. Double elimination.

Please PM them ASAP.

That's not how Double Elims work. I may misunderstood your post, but this is how Double Elims goes...

Everyone starts in the middle of the bracket going through a simple tournament setup fighting in the "winners bracket" whoever loses in the winners bracket gets placed in the left side of the bracket known as the "losers bracket". There are specific ways on where to place the losers corrseponding to how far they have placed in the winners bracket, like the loser of winner's finals will 100% be in loser's final to get back to fight in grand finals. It's pretty much a double bracket setup where losers from winners bracket are placed accordingly to determine the champ of winners bracket and champ of losers bracket and at the end both champs will fight in grand finals to determine the tournament winner. Oh yea if you lose in winners finals you still have a chance in winning the whole tournament by advancing through losers bracket, however if you lose in losers bracket you lose entirely.

Tenshi what you're setting up there is a mini-Round Robin tournament within a tournament. I do not think that's a good idea at all, just let the tournament run as is and if there are complications in the finals we can deal with it later. Having a round robin or a double elims only in block B is worse than seeding top players so the tournament can be more interesting. If people are missing just set them as a Bye and let the other guy get a free win. If there ends up to be only 3 Elites, we can then have a round robin from all the 3rd place players in each blocks to to determine that lost slot.

[Dynamic Dragon]

block: ???

alcazar vs DD

winner: alcazar

i dunno the block since its all mixed up x_D

[Alcazar]

EDIT: DD beat me to it.

[Mecha Wolf]

If we're going to do 3 vs. in the Block final. THere should be definite rules set up for it.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok i dunno about Artificial Sunshine if shes ok with 5

[Judgemento]

1st post of the creation of the online subforum

[Artificial_Sunshine]

ok i dunno about Artificial Sunshine if shes ok with 5

Um, I'm not ready; maybe in another hour?

I just got back from 'teh beach' (Hamptons = love) and I need to change out of my bathing suit, wash off all the icky sand, and stuff...

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

really tomorrow better for me then ok tomorrow at 12:00 EST is good or 1:00 really up till about 6 tomorrow is good for me

[Davee]

Oh the wait~

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

srry because i got to go to dinner with my 80 yr old grandma

[kewlmyc]

Round: 2nd

Block: C

Matchup: Kitsune vs. Kewlmyc

Winner: Kitsune

Good Job, Kitsune. Helped me find the weaknesses in my team. :)

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

well tomorrow is our matchs thats ok right tenchi

o yeah i think there should be a reward for being the winner of the tournament should get a shiny or legendary pkmn or something for being champ

[Artificial_Sunshine]

Um, who do I verse again? And what's their FC?

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

me and my fc is in my sig and Davee and his is 5144 9411 3562

[ReikaiDemon]

Does anyone have any idea where blacksmoke or mystictrunks are? I sent them a PM hours ago

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

nope them might just not be on

[Artificial_Sunshine]

nope them might just not be on

So, do you wanna battle now? I'll go on wifi, I guess

[Davee]

Sorry give me a few minutes

I'm on now.

[2Shea]

Round: 2nd

Block: D

Matchup: 2Shea vs. Kagemizu

Winner: 2Shea

Great job man, keep at it and you can definitely be great :amuse

[Kagemizu]

gg man i lost like a legend tho, sleep lol

[Artificial_Sunshine]

How do you make it non voice-chat?

[Serp]

X press it

[Davee]

Oh sorry umm push X
umm i think im lagging

[Dreikoo]

How do you make it non voice-chat?

When in the lobby press X.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok u2 fight and winner face me tomorrow update me with a pm on winner

[2Shea]

Uh no, you all need to battle today, so round 3 can begin tomorrow.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok then that fine ill fight the winner of there match when there done then winner will post here

[Nico]

FoxStick vs Nico

Winner:Nico

A good opponent.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

well u guys done yet

[Artificial_Sunshine]

I'm such a dumbass! I let myself get handed to by a Blissey, not realizing I had an Infernape alive!

[Davee]

I made lots of mistakes, too. Good battle. It was intense. I was sure you had the game.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

so who one

[Davee]

I won that one.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

ok ill be in the rm in about 30 sec

[Davee]

What the hell?

Okay . . . you rearranged your pokemon . . .

Okay sasuke what is going on?
This is the second time . . .
I'm sure I had both game even though you rearranged your pokemons.

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

nah uwon i give ok heres the stats

AS v Davee v Sasuke_Uchiha

victor= Davee

DD a move i need
Davee ill cheer for you go to the finals o and 1st time my DS died

[Lazybook]

Round: 2nd

Block: D

Matchup: Shinji vs. Basye

Winner: Shinji

my opponent purposely disconnected so he could change his pokemon tema after seeing what i had in my party, but i owned him both times

[basye]

I did not! I disconected cause u were in a battle that wasnt me

[Lazybook]

You disconnected after you sent out your last pokemon, then went back on again with a different team

[basye]

that was the first time I battled u I never even knew your team

[Lazybook]

^ROFL.........

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

o well i los davee u better make it to the finals

[basye]

thats no funny u beat me so just win the whole thing ok

[Mecha Wolf]

Davee. When do you want to fight our 3rd round match? We can do it later tonight or 2morrow.

[TenshiOni]

That's not how Double Elims work. I may misunderstood your post, but this is how Double Elims goes...

Everyone starts in the middle of the bracket going through a simple tournament setup fighting in the "winners bracket" whoever loses in the winners bracket gets placed in the left side of the bracket known as the "losers bracket". There are specific ways on where to place the losers corrseponding to how far they have placed in the winners bracket, like the loser of winner's finals will 100% be in loser's final to get back to fight in grand finals. It's pretty much a double bracket setup where losers from winners bracket are placed accordingly to determine the champ of winners bracket and champ of losers bracket and at the end both champs will fight in grand finals to determine the tournament winner. Oh yea if you lose in winners finals you still have a chance in winning the whole tournament by advancing through losers bracket, however if you lose in losers bracket you lose entirely.

Tenshi what you're setting up there is a mini-Round Robin tournament within a tournament. I do not think that's a good idea at all, just let the tournament run as is and if there are complications in the finals we can deal with it later. Having a round robin or a double elims only in block B is worse than seeding top players so the tournament can be more interesting. If people are missing just set them as a Bye and let the other guy get a free win. If there ends up to be only 3 Elites, we can then have a round robin from all the 3rd place players in each blocks to to determine that lost slot.
I get your idea now and I like it but unfortunately I think it's too late to implement such a rule now that we're almost finished with round 2. The next tournament will be set up much better, I assure you. While this may still be official, think of it as the beta tournament, I guess.

But eh...after Round 2, we'll have 12 people left. 3 per bracket.

Any suggestions on how to proceed within the brackets?

[2Shea]

Any suggestions on how to proceed within the brackets?


Just like how the groups of 3 did within A and B block?

[Mecha Wolf]

I get your idea now and I like it but unfortunately I think it's too late to implement such a rule now that we're almost finished with round 2. The next tournament will be set up much better, I assure you. While this may still be official, think of it as the beta tournament, I guess.

But eh...after Round 2, we'll have 12 people left. 3 per bracket.

Any suggestions on how to proceed within the brackets?

Here's an idea. Each person fight one match with each opponent. If you win 2 match, you of course move on by default. If you loose both match, you're out. If there is more than one competitor with one win and one loss, the winner will be the one that won the one match with the least # of their pokemon fainted.

[Portaljacker]

I'm wondering, were the three legendaries from each game, Zapdos set, Entei set, Regi set and Mesprit set, allowed in the tournament? Also, when should the next tourny be? You know, so I have time to prepare.

[Dreikoo]

I'm wondering, were the three legendaries from each game, Zapdos set, Entei set, Regi set and Mesprit set, allowed in the tournament? Also, when should the next tourny be? You know, so I have time to prepare.

Yes they were allowed...and the second tourney could be on PBR....it would kick ass :P.

[Mecha Wolf]

Yes they were allowed...and the second tourney could be on PBR....it would kick ass :P.

It should be PBR or DS Wifi so those of us who don't have a Wii can still participate.

[Portaljacker]

I was wondering something. Will that game use your DS game's Friend code or it's own? I want to play but so does my brother. It would suck if I had to share a friend code with him.

[TenshiOni]

I've watched a lot of PBR vids on youtube and what I want to know is...

...is there a way to battle WITHOUT showing all your Poke to your opponent before hand? I hate how you basically see each other's six and can then decide who to choose.

And are all the matches 4 vs 4 on 1-on-1? or can you play 6 Poke vs 6?
Just like how the groups of 3 did within A and B block?
That's what I was thinking but I didn't want to proceed without general approval.
Here's an idea. Each person fight one match with each opponent. If you win 2 match, you of course move on by default. If you loose both match, you're out. If there is more than one competitor with one win and one loss, the winner will be the one that won the one match with the least # of their pokemon fainted.
Nice idea but I'm not sure about the "# of their pokemon fainted" part. If two people have 1 win and 1 loss they should just fight one more time.

But er...that's essentially what Sasuke_Uchiha, Davee, and Artificial did. xD

[Mecha Wolf]

Nice idea but I'm not sure about the "# of their pokemon fainted" part. If two people have 1 win and 1 loss they should just fight one more time.


Actually, the problem is that if there is more than one person with 1 win and 1 loss, it means all three have one win and one loss. Which also mean that they beat the person who beat the person that they loss to...so it's like starting from the beginning.

[Dreikoo]

I've watched a lot of PBR vids on youtube and what I want to know is...

...is there a way to battle WITHOUT showing all your Poke to your opponent before hand? I hate how you basically see each other's six and can then decide who to choose.

And are all the matches 4 vs 4 on 1-on-1? or can you play 6 Poke vs 6?

That's what I was thinking but I didn't want to proceed without general approval.



On the FC mode i'm not sure you see the pokemon your opponent has but since you chose which pokemon to use in the battle ( or which to send first if it's a 6 on 6) it adds another dimension to the level of pokemon battling which really rocks IMO. (like pokemon stadium)

I'm sure though that on FC mode you can chose it either 3 on 3 (single) 4 on 4 (double) and 6 on 6. (both single and double)

[Davee]

Get me 5 young teenagers with attitude!

[Serp]

ze fuk :shrooms

[Shadow Blade]

so the only battles left are me and Ha-ri, Kira and Duy and Countach\Hero\Yoshi thing

[2Shea]

Haha god, thats about the.. I don't even know lol. It is workable, albeit a bit complicated yes, but not now.

Ofcourse we can give out any suggestions for the next tourney, but as there was no real protest in proceeding w/ the 3 man finals for each block, then it seems the most logical way to go ahead and finish this one out. And focus any big planning on the next tournament.

[Kira Yamato]

so the only battles left are me and Ha-ri, Kira and Duy and Countach\Hero\Yoshi thing

I PM'd Duy about our battle over 11 hours ago and still haven't gotten a reply from him. Actually I replied to his battle request and have yet to hear from him.

[Duy Nguyen]

^Woopsies, I can get on right now if you're ready to battle.

Edit:

Duy vs. Kira

Block B

Winner: Duy

GG Kira, I still think Lati@s is shit broken.

[Kira Yamato]

Duy Defeats Kira

Wow...the match went down to the wire, but I made a few costly mistakes that forced me to make a comeback in the first place :sweat

[ReikaiDemon]

I, uh, guess I beat mystictrunks? Unless if he says otherwise. Our match was bogged down with errors, he won one, I got after a wi-fi error, but before it, he had two left(at least I think it was two, I got one of his two remaining pokemon to critical health I think), I had three, he claimed that he would be pretty much finished that round. Then he can't log on due to 50901 errors, I don't know how to call it. It sounds like Mystictrunks calls me the winner, I myself am confused @.@

[TenshiOni]

^Having him actually post here would be good. :O

[mystictrunks]

^Having him actually post here would be good. :O

Yea, my wifi is being a little puto so I can't log on anymore. I had 2 pokemon 1 had like 10 hp and the other was weak to the one he had out so he had it in the bag.

[Ha-ri]

Round: 1st

Block: C

Matchup: Shadow Blade vs Ha-Ri

Winner: Shadow Blade

[Dreikoo]

round 2

Dreikoo vs skeets

block b

winner : skeets.

GG skeets...i didn't expect that one to have both Ibeam and Tbolt ><

[Mecha Wolf]

Duy vs. Skeets...that is going to be mighty interesting.

[Shadow Blade]

Well now that the next round is up which is basically to decide who will be the elite.

so I'll ask again how this is gonna work. How do you decide out of 3 people who advances?

[2Shea]

Updated Bracket:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3403/nfbracket2dj9.jpg


These last few people need to finish up their battles >< Or post some clear results lol.

[Shadow Blade]

man Yoshi should at least come. Hero would've advanced to battling Countach :|

[ReikaiDemon]

Yea, my wifi is being a little puto so I can't log on anymore. I had 2 pokemon 1 had like 10 hp and the other was weak to the one he had out so he had it in the bag.
Well, I guess all that's left is a battle with blacksmoke, it's been a while since I pm'ed him for the match.

[Countach]

yoshi should be dqed its been more then 48 hrs

[2Shea]

yoshi should be dqed its been more then 48 hrs

I believe Tenshi said he would be after midnight.... and well it is so I guess he should be now.

[Countach]

I believe Tenshi said he would be after midnight.... and well it is so I guess he should be now.


it just was not fair to poor hero's card, just waiting there in his house, not being able to go out and get drunk like the rest of us

god bless u hero:cry

[mystictrunks]

Well, I guess all that's left is a battle with blacksmoke, it's been a while since I pm'ed him for the match.

Oh snap I forrgot about blacksmoke. I guess we can try to settle our match tommorow and we'll both battle BS. Sounds like a plan ?

forgot we had 48 hours >.>

[Shadow Blade]

if you do by pacific time, he has an hour. After that Count should battle Hero to finish the 2nd Round. Black Smoke is also not present.

[Countach]

im going to sleep, i have work tomarrow

[ReikaiDemon]

Oh snap I forrgot about blacksmoke. I guess we can try to settle our match tommorow and we'll both battle BS. Sounds like a plan ?

forgot we had 48 hours >.>
Cool :D Though, I don't know when I'll be available tomorrow.

[Mecha Wolf]

Davee, what time do you want to battle? And is it Hero or Count who's the third person?

[Sasuke_Uchiha]

good luck davee im rootin for u

[Shadow Blade]

Yoshi will probably get disqualified since 48 hours have passed. Count and Hero will battle and the winner will be one of your opponents, Mecha.

About my Block, Nico and Kitsune, I'm not gonna be home from 12:30 to 10:00 today so I won't be able to do our matches today. I will be available tomorrow. Though. Thank you for understanding.

[Mecha Wolf]

Davee, I see you online now. Let's get our battle over with.