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potential
05-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Sylar has conqured all of man kind and is bored. All os a sudden he sees a portal and he walks through. Now he is in One Piece verse with a book about DF's by his feet. He reads it. He sees Luffy walking by and sees him fight a mugger trying to steal from Nami. He notices Luffy's Devil Fruit power and his awesome strength. He decides that a frontal assault is suicide and is trying to figure a way to kill Luffy and get his power. From there he try to get all Devil Fruits and conquer One piece verse. Can Sylar achieve his goal or will he end up empty handed. Also if he eats thier brans he gets thier Devil Fruit.

Random Nobody
05-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Are we to assume his TK works on Logias?

potential
05-28-2007, 10:23 PM
Yep it sure can

atom
05-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Enel speedblitz the guy and shocks him with 1,000,000 volts of pure pwnage. Killing him. Besides, he won't get past the logias anyway. And if that doesn't work Ms.Goldenweek puts some red paint on some water. Forcing Sylar to try and use TK and etc on the water. But it will be ineffective. While this is happening Luffy is charging up a Giant Jet PWNAGE Pistol attack. Killing him.

I hope the One Piece verse has some durable condoms. Because this will be rape.

Havoc
05-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Enel speedblitz the guy and shocks him with 1,000,000 volts of pure pwnage. Killing him. Besides, he won't get past the logias anyway. And if that doesn't work Ms.Goldenweek puts some red paint on some water. Forcing Sylar to try and use TK and etc on the water. But it will be ineffective. While this is happening Luffy is charging up a Giant Jet PWNAGE Pistol attack. Killing him.

I hope the One Piece verse has some durable condoms. Because this will be rape.

Yes, because he will obviously face them all at once.

TWF
05-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Smoker cusses him out. Sylar cries. GG Sylar.

atom
05-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Yes, because he will obviously face them all at once.
Yeah.. this entire thread is circumstantial. Ok, then he faces Mr.1 first, he tries to eat his brain. But can't because its metal. Then Mr.1 proceeds to kill him. Good game

Or he meets Luffy first, same scenario as above except instead of killing him Luffy punches him to another island never to be seen again.

Or Ms. Goldenweek convinces Sylar that she is a good painter and Sylar forces her to paint a picture of him. Goldenweek puts some red paint on the floor and then he can't attack anyone but that spot. Goldenweek proceeds to rape.

Or

He meets Blackbeard and Co. Blackbeard skips all the details and just sucks him up and kills him.


etc, etc, etc, etc,
Again, Sylar Rape.

Random Nobody
05-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Except that this isn't a straight up fight. None of these characters know what he's planning and have no reason to just kill him.

TWF
05-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Except that this isn't a straight up fight. None of these characters know what he's planning and have no reason to just kill him.

Smoker cusses him out. Sylar cries. GG Sylar.

Smoker cusses him into nothing.

atom
05-29-2007, 12:11 AM
Except that this isn't a straight up fight. None of these characters know what he's planning and have no reason to just kill him.
Your point? There are ALOT of people in OP who kill/injure/immobilize others for no reason.

potential
05-29-2007, 12:38 AM
WTF are you talking about?

atom
05-29-2007, 12:46 AM
Can you not read?

T.h.e.r.e a.r.e p.e.o.p.l.e i.n o.n.e .p.i.e.c.e w.h.o i.n.j.u.r.y o.t.h.e.r.s f.o.r n.o r.e.a.s.o.n


Hopefully that helped ya.

Shuntensatsu
05-29-2007, 12:51 AM
This thread is retarded.

Bijuukage has already won it so I don't really need to say anything else.

Shishou
05-29-2007, 01:00 AM
Code says Zoro would stop him.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:01 AM
Do we assume he can eat two or more DFs and not die?

Also Bijuu Sylar is just some random guy walking around until he actually does something.

Why in the HELL would every strong person just walk up to him and attack for no reason at all?

Lord Snow
05-29-2007, 01:02 AM
One Piece wins.Bijuukage has said all that needs to be said.

The Internet
05-29-2007, 01:03 AM
Most of the mid tier is to fast for him.

Cthulhu-versailles
05-29-2007, 01:04 AM
Bjju guy owned the thread.

Lock it.

atom
05-29-2007, 01:12 AM
Also Bijuu Sylar is just some random guy walking around until he actually does something.

Why in the HELL would every strong person just walk up to him and attack for no reason at all?
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? No Comprende?

Should I post scans?

Almost ALL of the OP Verse except Luffy's crew and Arlong attack random travelers at a whim I'll post scans if you want. Also, once Sylar eats a Devil Fruit, then its just a matter of pushing him off the coast of the ocean drowning and killing him. That matter could be done by someone not as strong.

OP verse is just violent and strong. Honestly... Sylar better get ready for the anal raping.

I'll say some examples right now.


Enel destroying the entire island of Skypedia at a whim.
Blackbeard beating him some random guy.
Zoro (Pre Luffys crew) beating up some random marines.
The BW terrorizing random villages/cities/towns
The CP9 beating up Luffys crew just because "they are there."

etc etc

Random Nobody
05-29-2007, 01:15 AM
The OP specifically said the first ability he got interested in was Luffy's. If he gets Luffy's DF then he stands a chance. It's all a matter of if he can get Luffy's first.

atom
05-29-2007, 01:18 AM
How exactly would he eat Luffy's brain? Its made out of rubber. Sylar is human. He can't eat rubber. He would die either way. Either from attempting to hurt Luffy and get owned. Or from eating Rubber and getting his throat. clogged up and choking and dying.

Sylar is extremely strong.. however, he is still limited by human limitations.

Cthulhu-versailles
05-29-2007, 01:19 AM
The OP specifically said the first ability he got interested in was Luffy's. If he gets Luffy's DF then he stands a chance. It's all a matter of if he can get Luffy's first.

Because Luffy even with dozens of other mid tier powers would stand any chance whatsoever against WB, any of the highest tiers, Aokiji, or Ace ?

Code
05-29-2007, 01:20 AM
The OP specifically said the first ability he got interested in was Luffy's. If he gets Luffy's DF then he stands a chance. It's all a matter of if he can get Luffy's first.
Luffy's still far from the top in One Piece, and the only reason he's done so well would be mainly because of his base strength, though I haven't seen enough of Heroes to know Sylar's physical strength, the ability to become rubber isn't all that useful.

Random Nobody
05-29-2007, 01:23 AM
I know Luffy's not top tier. My point was that getting his ability would be a great help since it would increase his durability and assuming his knack for mastering skills quickly works on DFs too then it shouldn't take him long to figure out moves like the Gears. I'm not saying it'd guarantee him a win or anything, I'm just saying if he was successful he'd might stand a chance (assuming he can accumulate multiple DFs without dying of course).

The Internet
05-29-2007, 01:28 AM
It means nothing if he gets Luffy's powers.

Jesus christ people are fucking dense.


LUFFY'S DF POWERS <> HIS STRENGTH AND SPEED

Sylar would register as low tier in One Piece. He would be lucky to beat Kuro or Buggy (Who is extremlly underrated btw)

Random Nobody
05-29-2007, 01:31 AM
I know he wouldn't be nearly as strong or fast as Luffy. I was just saying it'd help.

atom
05-29-2007, 01:37 AM
Can you guys move this to the Joke Battledome. This isn't the Narutoverse you know.

The Internet
05-29-2007, 01:37 AM
I know he wouldn't be nearly as strong or fast as Luffy. I was just saying it'd help.

Very little.

Can you guys move this to the Joke Battledome. This isn't the Narutoverse you know.

Na, Sylar can possibly kill some of the low tier.

atom
05-29-2007, 01:51 AM
Very little.



Na, Sylar can possibly kill some of the low tier.
Na, Sylar can possibly kill some of the low tier.
Possibly.. but then again. Some of this "low tier" have been hit by attacks equal to nuclear bombs. Island throwing, island destroying, ocean freezing, lightning striking attacks. And they just get up and act like nothing happened.

potential
05-29-2007, 02:25 AM
Where's the opverse tier list

Supa Swag
05-29-2007, 04:18 AM
So uh...you guys do know that Future Sylar can't really die, right?

Violent Man
05-29-2007, 08:41 AM
No offense but there is a severe underestimation for Future Sylar.

His abilities that we know of
- Telekineses
- Phasing
- Regeneration
- Go Nuclear
- Freeze
- Super hearing
- Super Memory
- Fly
- Create flawless Illusions/Disguise himself as someone else
- Liquify
- Understand Extreme Complexities
- Precog (through painting)

Sylar isn't dumb, can react to bullets, and has excellent control over all his powers. And since he has the DF book he can easily create a plan to keep on getting stronger if he pleases. He's like a super souped up logia.

A no PIS/CIS Sylar is a very big threat to the One Piece verse.

Lord Snow
05-29-2007, 09:44 AM
So uh...you guys do know that Future Sylar can't really die, right?

Is powers only work when his brain is not damaged. Remeber Clarie was dead as long as the branch was stuck in her head+Peter(with clarie`s powers) was dead too because the piece of glass was stuck in his brain. All someone has to do his decapitate Sylar and he stays dead.

TWF
05-29-2007, 11:49 AM
Why is this thread not finished? Smoker kills him with his vulgar language attacks.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:43 PM
Is powers only work when his brain is not damaged. Remeber Clarie was dead as long as the branch was stuck in her head+Peter(with clarie`s powers) was dead too because the piece of glass was stuck in his brain. All someone has to do his decapitate Sylar and he stays dead.

But they wouldn't know that. :notrust

TWF
05-29-2007, 01:45 PM
They'd figure it out, Sylar. There are plenty of sword wielders in One Piece. If he runs across Mihawk, he'll be diced into so many little pieces, it won't matter.

What do you think One Piece is...Naruto!? :mad

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:47 PM
Why do you assume he runs across Mihawk right off the bat and why on earth would Mihawk just start attacking some guy not doing anything wrong as far he knows?

TWF
05-29-2007, 01:48 PM
Why do you assume he runs across Mihawk right off the bat and why on earth would Mihawk just start attacking some guy not doing anything wrong as far he knows?

Remember what Mihawk did to Don Krieg...who did nothing to Mihawk yet he totally wtfpwned his fleet. It'll be the same scenario.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:53 PM
Don Krieg was a pirate who caused untold destruction and killed many people.

Sylar hasn't done anything of the sort, that Mihawk knows anyway.

Lord Snow
05-29-2007, 06:01 PM
But they wouldn't know that. :notrust

The minute they realize Sylar can regenerate, they will decapitate him.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 06:10 PM
The minute they realize Sylar can regenerate, they will decapitate him.

No they won't. :notrust

atom
05-29-2007, 07:47 PM
No offense but there is a severe underestimation for Future Sylar.

His abilities that we know of
- Telekineses
- Phasing
- Regeneration
- Go Nuclear
- Freeze
- Super hearing
- Super Memory
- Fly
- Create flawless Illusions/Disguise himself as someone else
- Liquify
- Understand Extreme Complexities
- Precog (through painting)

Sylar isn't dumb, can react to bullets, and has excellent control over all his powers. And since he has the DF book he can easily create a plan to keep on getting stronger if he pleases. He's like a super souped up logia.

A no PIS/CIS Sylar is a very big threat to the One Piece verse.
There are so many broken people in OP that it wouldn't matter. Ms. Goldenweek would SOLO this.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 10:00 PM
No she wouldn't because Sylar would kill her with her own paintbrush before she can do anything.

Again for the final frickin time:

NOBODY KNOWS SYLAR WHO OR WHAT SYLAR IS OR WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO!!! THEY WIll NOT SET UP A TRAP OR EXPECT ANYTHING BECAUSE HE IS JUST A GUY HANGING OUT UNTIL SOMEONE, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, CATCHES HIM DOING SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!. HIM OFFING SOME LOW LEVEL DF USER AND GETTING RID OF THE BODY WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY GET BAROQUE WORKS, CP9, AND EVERY HIGH LEVEL PIRATE CREW ON HIM AT ONCE!!!!!

Jesus you people.

The Internet
05-29-2007, 10:04 PM
Yeah. but he isn't taking out any mid tier character. He could take every god damned low tier character (which he would have extreme difficulty doing) but once he reaches the mid tier, even if he surprises them, they would break him like a twig.

Code
05-29-2007, 10:06 PM
No she wouldn't because Sylar would kill her with her own paintbrush before she can do anything.

Again for the final frickin time:

NOBODY KNOWS SYLAR WHO OR WHAT SYLAR IS OR WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO!!! THEY WIll NOT SET UP A TRAP OR EXPECT ANYTHING BECAUSE HE IS JUST A GUY HANGING OUT UNTIL SOMEONE, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, CATCHES HIM DOING SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!. HIM OFFING SOME LOW LEVEL DF USER AND GETTING RID OF THE BODY WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY GET BAROQUE WORKS, CP9, AND EVERY HIGH LEVEL PIRATE CREW ON HIM AT ONCE!!!!!

Jesus you people.

Well his first fight would be against Luffy going from the original poster's setting. Would he be easily capable of killing him? Then also evading his crew and anyone noticing the crew's demise?

If he's just flying around, then someone will likely randomly attack him, there's also that possibility if he's traveling on ship and happens to come by another pirate crew. There's plenty of hostile crews we've seen that attacks others who approach them or encroach on some base. If he has to get Enel's devil fruit also up in Skypiea, he could very well be killed for making the wrong movements.

Depending on how much damage is done, the World Government (They do have Cipher Pol an intelligence service) and the Marine HQ would likely be out looking for them. Marine HQ also happens to have a potographer who has a knack for taking people's pictures all over the world.

There's plenty of pirate crews who have a guy with a bounty on their head. Even if they aren't purposely showing off. Though Captain Kuro did evade capture for some time by staging his death, he didn't do anything major like killing all devil fruit users.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 10:12 PM
You forget his illuson power.

He can literally be anyone.

If his ship is attacked by pirates, for example, he just casts an illusion on the pirates then kills them using his TK and Phasing.

Also I don't care how high-tier a character is, a fist phased through the head will kill you no matter what.

Violent Man
05-29-2007, 10:24 PM
Swords won't hurt Sylar, he can become intangible. So I doubt he would get decapitated as easily as you guys claim.

The Internet
05-29-2007, 10:25 PM
You forget his illuson power.

He can literally be anyone.

If his ship is attacked by pirates, for example, he just casts an illusion on the pirates then kills them using his TK and Phasing.

Also I don't care how high-tier a character is, a fist phased through the head will kill you no matter what.

Doesn't matter, you really under estimate most of the mid tiers intellegence.

I know Sylar is intellegent, but he is not tricking everyone in OP. he could be an incho behind someone and about to phase them, and they would just jet out of the way and break him.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 10:33 PM
Illusons make that null.

Don't even try to suggest that someone like Bellamy or Foxy would be able to see through an illusion.

Look let's say he walks into a bar and Bellamy and his crew are there. Bellamy goes to the bathroom and Sylar cuts his head open and takes his DF power and is gone before anyone even knows he was there. If you have doubts look at when he killed Charlie. Charlie was in a crowded diner and walked into a backroom whose doer was visible to everone sitting in the diner. Sylar killed her, ate her brain, and was gone before anyone noticed the body. He isn't slow and he isn't stupid. He WILL use his powers to the fullest. He will plan. He will wait. He will have a stategy for this and won't just kill everyone he meets.

Look I'm not saying he has a shot against Aokiji or Mihawk but he has WAY too many weapons which would spell instant death for any non-logia. Phasing, TK, and Nuke powers are not something to be underestimated.

Violent Man
05-29-2007, 10:34 PM
Doesn't matter, you really under estimate most of the mid tiers intellegence.

I know Sylar is intellegent, but he is not tricking everyone in OP. he could be an incho behind someone and about to phase them, and they would just jet out of the way and break him.

Even though he tricked the whole world for 7 years that he was the president. And when he went on the attack he used telekineses to hold his victim.

potential
05-29-2007, 10:52 PM
With the phasing and Tk plus illusions I think Sylar has a good chance. Hell just go up to Sanji and turn into Nami. He dies. THen turn into Sanji and go and sneak on usopp. Gone etc. But luffy will be kinda hard. Im guessing stay intangible and tk Luffy's head?

atom
05-29-2007, 10:52 PM
Sylar.. wow just wow. Ms. Goldenweek ALWAYS has paint on her Paint Table thingy. As soon as Sylar realizes that Ms.Goldenweek exists he will only be able to attack that paint stool. Then Ms. Goldenweek will simply kill him.

You don't seem the understand the brokenness of OP characters. Sylar gets ANALLY raped.

potential
05-29-2007, 10:54 PM
He will make her grab the paintbrush and Tk it down her throat. Sylar has gotten out of attacks of brokeness before. ex Hiro time stop

Sylar
05-29-2007, 11:04 PM
Sylar watches from afar and simply puts the paintbrush in between her eyes.

GG Goldenweek is dead.

And remember Sylar himself is pretty damn broken BEFORE he starts taking DFs.

atom
05-29-2007, 11:16 PM
He will make her grab the paintbrush and Tk it down her throat. Sylar has gotten out of attacks of brokeness before. ex Hiro time stop
OMG Do you even know Mrs.Goldenweeks power? HE CAN ONLY ATTACK THE PAINT. HE can't TK Goldenweek. He can TK the paint, he can freeze the paint, whatever. He can ONLY attack the paint. And even when the paint is gone. He can only attack the remaining parts of the paint.

Sylar gets raped.


Sylar watches from afar and simply puts the paintbrush in between her eyes.

GG Goldenweek is dead.

And remember Sylar himself is pretty damn broken BEFORE he starts taking DFs.
Wow.. just wow. You know NOTHING about Goldenweek. Red Paint means that he can only attack it. He wouldn't be able to TK anything else but the paint. He can ONLY attack the paint if he exists. Not to mention Goldenweeks other paints...

Sylar
05-29-2007, 11:17 PM
I never said he'd take out the whole verse.

Not once.

He has no shot and will lose horribly.

But don't assume that he can't make a good dent in most of the lowtiers and a couple of the stupider midtiers before he's stopped.

EDIT: Bijuu she has to paint the sign for the effect to happen. It isn't just paint. Its the design its painted on.

atom
05-29-2007, 11:26 PM
Bijuu she has to paint the sign for the effect to happen. It isn't just paint. Its the design its painted on.
This entire thing is circumstantial. So she could just happen to have the sign painted on the back of her painting board. so yeah.

The Internet
05-29-2007, 11:27 PM
I never said he'd take out the whole verse.

Not once.

He has no shot and will lose horribly.

But don't assume that he can't make a good dent in most of the lowtiers and a couple of the stupider midtiers before he's stopped.


....

.......

THEN WHY WERE WE ARGUEING WHEN WE AGREEED ><

I'm sorry for that last comment

Sylar
05-29-2007, 11:28 PM
This entire thing is circumstantial. So she could just happen to have the sign painted on the back of her painting board. so yeah.

Except she doesn't or Karue wouldn't have been able to attack her. So yeah.

@ Spectre: I was just trying to point out that the second he got to the OnePieceverse, every single hightier character would not immediately attack him and kill him. I got a little carried away. :P

shadowlords
05-29-2007, 11:30 PM
wat the u think mihawk wouldnt attack him for no reason?

mihawk destroyed don krieg's crew because they woke him up while he was sleeping. his crew isnt no cake walk either it was freaking 50 ships and only left one remaining but destroyed that one too with one hit.

van auger of the blackbeard pirates shoots things so far away that people cant even see the island he is shooting from and he does it because he wants to see what their destiny was. to die quickly or to die slowly.

doc q is a frail man on a frail horse who gives people apples that are actually bombs to eat just to test their fate.

sylar can go undercover as much as he wants but there are some seriously dangerous people that would rape him for no reason.

Finn Mac Cool
05-29-2007, 11:55 PM
I think this really hinges on whether or not taking the powers of two DF users would kill Sylar. If it does, then I doubt he stands much of a chance; if his power stealing ability lets him handle two DF powers, however, then I think Sylar could pull this off if he's patient.

The original poster said that Sylar found a book on Devil Fruits and is initially drawn to Luffy's power. Well, Sylar can use his superhearing to ███ on the Strawhat Pirates from miles away, letting him learn lots about them before making his move. He can then wait till Luffy's alone somewhere and use his illusion ability to make himself look like one of the Strawhat's with a big pile of food. Using Luffy's gluttony and trust of his friends against him, Sylar would then have ample opportunity to phase his hand through Luffy's brain, telekinetically seal his throat shut or throw him into the ocean (while phased out, so Luffy can't touch him), or, if all else fails, create a big, radioactive blast to take Luffy out. Once he gains Luffy's powers he'll probably have to deal with the rest of the Strawhat Pirates coming after him in revenge, but, if he masters Luffy's rubber abilities as quickly as he's mastered his other powers, combined with phasing, telekinesis, freezing, nuclear blasts, regeneration, and creating illusions, I don't see why Sylar couldn't take them out (and possibly steal Robin's DF power as well).

Once that's done, Sylar can use his illusion abilities to travel most anywhere in the world without attracting attention, hunting down DF users. In fact, with Luffy's powers, all he'd really need to become nearly invincible would be Buggy the Clown's. Luffy's rubber abilities would protect him from all but the strongest blunt forces, Buggy's would protect him from all sharp attacks, and he's got near perfect regeneration and phasing to protect him from the rest. As for how he'd handle certain OPverse characters:

Mr. 1 - Sylar can melt metal, remember; that seems like a natural counter to Mr. 1. He might have a speed advantage, but preptime and Sylar's powerful defenses could easily negate that.

Ms. Goldenweek - Sylar could just blow himself up. That would utterly vaporize any color traps and, while he wouldn't be directly attacking Ms. Goldenweek, she'd still get caught up in the blast radius.

Logias - Sylar would have to bide his time before taking on any of these guys; he'd have to avoid them until he'd acquired enough DF powers and researched their elemental weaknesses sufficiently to take them out. To those who say he wouldn't be able to avoid fighting them, again, Sylar can render all their attacks useless by becoming intangible and use his illusion abilities to escape.

Sylar couldn't just walk into the OPverse and start kicking ass and taking names. It might very well take as much as a decade to pull off a successful coupt; but, as Sylar has the ability to gain ever more powers, and seems highly skilled at developing them, given time and proper planning, I don't see why he couldn't take over the OPverse. Now, if he runs into Mihawk his first week in the universe, of course he's screwed, but, while there's a lot of crazy stuff in the world of One Piece, it seems highly unlikely that Sylar would just happen to run into one of it's high tier characters by pure chance. That would only be an issue of Sylar was overconfident and drew too much attention to himself; however, since Sylar made everyone think he was President of the United States for five years, I doubt it would be too hard for him to pose as a number of different people in order to avoid becoming too notorious in the OPverse until he had acquired enough power to do so safely.

atom
05-30-2007, 12:25 AM
The original poster said that Sylar found a book on Devil Fruits and is initially drawn to Luffy's power. Well, Sylar can use his superhearing to ███ on the Strawhat Pirates from miles away, letting him learn lots about them before making his move. He can then wait till Luffy's alone somewhere and use his illusion ability to make himself look like one of the Strawhat's with a big pile of food. Using Luffy's gluttony and trust of his friends against him, Sylar would then have ample opportunity to phase his hand through Luffy's brain, telekinetically seal his throat shut or throw him into the ocean (while phased out, so Luffy can't touch him), or, if all else fails, create a big, radioactive blast to take Luffy out. Once he gains Luffy's powers he'll probably have to deal with the rest of the Strawhat Pirates coming after him in revenge, but, if he masters Luffy's rubber abilities as quickly as he's mastered his other powers, combined with phasing, telekinesis, freezing, nuclear blasts, regeneration, and creating illusions, I don't see why Sylar couldn't take them out (and possibly steal Robin's DF power as well).
All of the below is moot anyway. Since he wouldn't be able to have 2 DF powers. It would contradict One Piece LAW. Sylar dies as soon as he gets a second devil fruit power.


Once that's done, Sylar can use his illusion abilities to travel most anywhere in the world without attracting attention, hunting down DF users. In fact, with Luffy's powers, all he'd really need to become nearly invincible would be Buggy the Clown's. Luffy's rubber abilities would protect him from all but the strongest blunt forces, Buggy's would protect him from all sharp attacks, and he's got near perfect regeneration and phasing to protect him from the rest. As for how he'd handle certain OPverse characters:
Mr. 2 tried that.... failed horribly.


Logias - Sylar would have to bide his time before taking on any of these guys; he'd have to avoid them until he'd acquired enough DF powers and researched their elemental weaknesses sufficiently to take them out. To those who say he wouldn't be able to avoid fighting them, again, Sylar can render all their attacks useless by becoming intangible and use his illusion abilities to escape.
1,000,000,000 Volts to brain at light speed GG Sylar.






Mr. 1 - Sylar can melt metal, remember; that seems like a natural counter to Mr. 1. He might have a speed advantage, but preptime and Sylar's powerful defenses could easily negate that.
Except Mr.1 has properties of metal. He isn't actually Metal. If that was the case. Then when Zoro cut him, he would've been completely cut in half. Rather then just cut normally and bled.



Ms. Goldenweek - Sylar could just blow himself up. That would utterly vaporize any color traps and, while he wouldn't be directly attacking Ms. Goldenweek, she'd still get caught up in the blast radius.
Yeah, except.. Sylar is blown up. Not to mention that Mrs. Goldenweek isn't stupid. She wouldn't put a color trap near herself unless she knows the enemy doesn't have techniques that could attack the color trap but still effect her.

potential
05-30-2007, 12:48 AM
^good knowlegdgable post. +rep(Finn Mac Cool)

Random Nobody
05-30-2007, 01:00 AM
1,000,000,000 Volts to brain at light speed GG Sylar.

Eneru isn't light speed.

Except Mr.1 has properties of metal. He isn't actually Metal. If that was the case. Then when Zoro cut him, he would've been completely cut in half. Rather then just cut normally and bled.

No it means Zoro can't cut through a layer of Steel as thick as the human body. As shown by how the Gears work, Fruits like Mr. 1's change the entire body.

Yeah, except.. Sylar is blown up. Not to mention that Mrs. Goldenweek isn't stupid. She wouldn't put a color trap near herself unless she knows the enemy doesn't have techniques that could attack the color trap but still effect her.

Nuking an area wouldn't kill him. It didn't kill Future Peter when he did it and he doesn't have regen like Sylar does.

Finn Mac Cool
05-30-2007, 01:07 AM
All of the below is moot anyway. Since he wouldn't be able to have 2 DF powers. It would contradict One Piece LAW. Sylar dies as soon as he gets a second devil fruit power.

Except Sylar wouldn't actually be consuming Devil Fruits; he'd be copying and/or absorbing powers from other people who have eaten Devil Fruits. Currently, the makers of Heroes have kept it vague exactly how Sylar obtains powers from other people; we know it has something to do with their brains, and Sylar eating their brains is a popular theory, but we don't know exactly how it works, or how it would relate to Devil Fruit powers. The only explanation we've been given that might explain why you can't consume two Devil Fruits without dying is that they contain actual devils inside them that, when both are in one person's body, will fight and tear that person to shreds. If Sylar merely alters his DNA to mimic someone else's powers, then he wouldn't actually have any devils inside him, so this wouldn't effect him.

I'm not saying for sure that Sylar could use his power stealing to have multiple DF powers, but I do think that how his power stealing works and how Devil Fruits work are both vague enough that you can't make either claim with 100% confidence.



1,000,000,000 Volts to brain at light speed GG Sylar.

Yes, because it's not like Luffy has a special resistance to electricity or anything.





Except Mr.1 has properties of metal. He isn't actually Metal. If that was the case. Then when Zoro cut him, he would've been completely cut in half. Rather then just cut normally and bled.

Well, then the question is "is he close enough to metal to be affected by Sylar's metal melting?" Even if that doesn't work, freezing or big radiation blasts could still take Mr. 1 out.




Yeah, except.. Sylar is blown up. Not to mention that Mrs. Goldenweek isn't stupid. She wouldn't put a color trap near herself unless she knows the enemy doesn't have techniques that could attack the color trap but still effect her.

First off, since the actor who plays Peter is scheduled to return in Season 2 of Heroes, I can only assume that Nathan's speculation was correct, and Claire's regenitive powers (which President Sylar has) can let a person recover even from being blown up.

Second, keep in mind, when discussing the kind of blasts Sylar can create, we're talking at least within a mile radius. I doubt she can put a color trap anywhere near Sylar without a) him noticing her with superhearing, and b) not having enough time to get away before Sylar nukes her.

This, of course, is assuming they're both aware of each other's abilities; if Sylar targetted Miss Goldenweek without her knowledge, she wouldn't have time to paint doodle one.

atom
05-30-2007, 01:10 AM
Eneru isn't light speed.
Whatever, hes half the speed of light. Same difference. He can teleport anyway so its irrelevant.


No it means Zoro can't cut through a layer of Steel as thick as the human body. As shown by how the Gears work, Fruits like Mr. 1's change the entire body.
Uhhhh, so your just saying the same thing that I just said..

Nuking an area wouldn't kill him. It didn't kill Future Peter when he did it and he doesn't have regen like Sylar does.
Did Peter take the attack directly? Besides, Sylar is only human. Regen or not. Unless you want to post some YouTube videos of Sylar blowing himself up (Notably the Brain) and regenerating back. Do it.

Sylar
05-30-2007, 01:17 AM
FTR, the producers confirmed that Sylar does eat the brains.

@Bijuu: Peter WAS the bomb. He blew up and didn't die without regeneration power. So why in the hell would Sylar WITH regeneration die from something Peter survived without it?

Supa Swag
05-30-2007, 01:19 AM
Currently, the makers of Heroes have kept it vague exactly how Sylar obtains powers from other people; we know it has something to do with their brains, and Sylar eating their brains is a popular theory, but we don't know exactly how it works, or how it would relate to Devil Fruit powers.


I think it's been confirmed by the director that Sylar eats the brains.

Did Peter take the attack directly? Besides, Sylar is only human. Regen or not. Unless you want to post some YouTube videos of Sylar blowing himself up (Notably the Brain) and regenerating back. Do it.

Future Peter WAS the attack. And he was still able to survive. It's not clear whether or not he had the regen. Either way, Future Sylar has nothing to worry about if he wants to become a nuke.


EDIT: lol, Sylar just pretty much said it before me.

Limit_Tester
05-30-2007, 01:25 AM
Future Peter did in fact have regeneration in that timeline due to Hiro's saving of the cheerleader. Sylar did not get regen until he killed Claire.

Random Nobody
05-30-2007, 01:31 AM
Uhhhh, so your just saying the same thing that I just said..


No you claimed Mr. 1 was not entirely metal because if he was Zoro would have cut through him entirely, which is false.


Did Peter take the attack directly? Besides, Sylar is only human. Regen or not. Unless you want to post some YouTube videos of Sylar blowing himself up (Notably the Brain) and regenerating back. Do it.

Take the attack directly? He was the attack. The explosion that took out New York was a result of Peter losing control of the Radiation manipulation power which caused an atomic explosion to radiate from his body. It's the equivalent of being the atom bomb.

atom
05-30-2007, 01:36 AM
Except Sylar wouldn't actually be consuming Devil Fruits; he'd be copying and/or absorbing powers from other people who have eaten Devil Fruits. Currently, the makers of Heroes have kept it vague exactly how Sylar obtains powers from other people; we know it has something to do with their brains, and Sylar eating their brains is a popular theory, but we don't know exactly how it works, or how it would relate to Devil Fruit powers. The only explanation we've been given that might explain why you can't consume two Devil Fruits without dying is that they contain actual devils inside them that, when both are in one person's body, will fight and tear that person to shreds. If Sylar merely alters his DNA to mimic someone else's powers, then he wouldn't actually have any devils inside him, so this wouldn't effect him.

I'm not saying for sure that Sylar could use his power stealing to have multiple DF powers, but I do think that how his power stealing works and how Devil Fruits work are both vague enough that you can't make either claim with 100% confidence.

No actually Oda said in a interview that it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to have 2 devil fruit powers. But then again Oda in interviews are somewhat moot because he usually makes fan speculation canon... anyway I'll look for the interview if you need the link.

Yes, because it's not like Luffy has a special resistance to electricity or anything.

Yes, because Sylar will automatically get rubber powers.

Well, then the question is "is he close enough to metal to be affected by Sylar's metal melting?" Even if that doesn't work, freezing or big radiation blasts could still take Mr. 1 out.
Except.. Sylar has basic human reaction time and speed. He will get speedblitz ed and killed.


First off, since the actor who plays Peter is scheduled to return in Season 2 of Heroes, I can only assume that Nathan's speculation was correct, and Claire's regenitive powers (which President Sylar has) can let a person recover even from being blown up.

Second, keep in mind, when discussing the kind of blasts Sylar can create, we're talking at least within a mile radius. I doubt she can put a color trap anywhere near Sylar without a) him noticing her with superhearing, and b) not having enough time to get away before Sylar nukes her.

This, of course, is assuming they're both aware of each other's abilities; if Sylar targetted Miss Goldenweek without her knowledge, she wouldn't have time to paint doodle one.
Sylar wouldn't be able to nuke her. He would only be able to nuke himself. And besides, there are other paints that make him depressed, change his mood, make him unable to attack, etc. So yeah. And this is assuming that Sylar is even near her. She could just randomly put some Red Paint on the floor. Even if Sylar is hundreds of miles away, he will have to attack that spot. Even though he will probably wonder why he is..

Also, if you want to go by "he said so in so" then that changes the game completely. I'm going by what they actually did. Until Sylar shows that he can blow himself up and regenerate from it. I'll assume his regeneative abilites are limited to like limbs and stuff.

atom
05-30-2007, 01:40 AM
@Bijuu: Peter WAS the bomb. He blew up and didn't die without regeneration power. So why in the hell would Sylar WITH regeneration die from something Peter survived without it?
Ok what episode is this. I WANT to see Peter getting blown him. There is a difference between getting blown him. And just getting a attack that blows up stuff at you. Did it show his limbs flying all over the place? Because thats the result of blowing yourself up.

Take the attack directly? He was the attack. The explosion that took out New York was a result of Peter losing control of the Radiation manipulation power which caused an atomic explosion to radiate from his body. It's the equivalent of being the atom bomb.
Again, see above. What epidsode was this. Did it show him actually? Or did it do the usual and just show the entire New York city and just a bomb going off. If its the latter, i'll take it with a grain of salt.

No you claimed Mr. 1 was not entirely metal because if he was Zoro would have cut through him entirely, which is false.
Whatever.







EDIT: Also, what channel is Heroes on. I've never actually seen it before. Just read about it and stuff. Can you download it over the net? If so where? Seems cool!

Random Nobody
05-30-2007, 02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFM40pqzzZA&mode=related&search=

Sylar and Peter in the Future after New York is destroyed, alive and well. There the only two Heros so far that can duplicate others power and Sylar even directly references the fact that Peter blew up New York.

There's no vid of how he did because the destruction was prevented at the end of the first season. Also I think you might be misunderstanding this a bit, he doesn't literally blow himself up, he radiates an explosion.

As for where to find Heros, there should be a pimping project for it on this site somewhere.

atom
05-30-2007, 02:23 AM
Also I think you might be misunderstanding this a bit, he doesn't literally blow himself up, he radiates an explosion.
Then the entire thing is irrelevant. In a earlier post uhm, I think he said that Sylar would blow himself up literally and survive. Which I doubt..

Random Nobody
05-30-2007, 02:30 AM
Well then that isn't true. He can nuke an area with ease, but he wouldn't be literally blowing himself up.

Oh and there is a Heros pimping project on this site if you want episodes. Its in the Manga pimping section for some reason though.

atom
05-30-2007, 02:32 AM
Well then that isn't true. He can nuke an area with ease, but he wouldn't be literally blowing himself up.

Oh and there is a Heros pimping project on this site if you want episodes. Its in the Manga pimping section for some reason though.
Oh ok then. I mean from what I've heard everyone in Heroes seems pretty strong. But blowing yourself up and surviving? Pretty unlikely, unless you have insanely regenerative abilities.

Random Nobody
05-30-2007, 02:35 AM
I don't think anybody in Heros can survive being blown up since the brain seems to be the source of all of there powers so losing that negates there abilities.

Finn Mac Cool
05-30-2007, 05:11 AM
Well, whether it's due to regeneration or not, it is clear that Peter and Sylar can create city destroying blasts without killing themselves in the process.

Also what the producers said was that their original plan was to have Sylar eat the brains, but they thought that seemed a little too zombie-ish, so they decided to leave it vague for a while, but, according to executive producer Tim Kring, we'll find out what exactly Sylar does with the brains during Season 2. See http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20015859,00.html for source interview.

Kagutsuchi
05-30-2007, 02:53 PM
Except.. Sylar has basic human reaction time and speed. He will get speedblitz ed and killed.

I'm sorry wut?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7382/11on2.gif

atom
05-30-2007, 03:37 PM
I'm sorry wut?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7382/11on2.gif
Thats not nearly as impressive as your making it out to be. Besides, he could just put a small force field around himself. Making reaction need pretty much unneeded.

potential
05-31-2007, 03:51 AM
Look at the picture. If they was a forcefield why would he have to turn around right when the bullets were about to hit him and stop them?

atom
05-31-2007, 03:54 AM
To catch the bullet (Well at least thats what it looked like he was doing) and attack that guy.

potential
05-31-2007, 04:13 AM
Why is there catching involved if there is a forcefield

Random Nobody
05-31-2007, 04:13 AM
Wouldn't a forcefield that made reacting to a bullet unimportant also help him take attacks though?

atom
05-31-2007, 04:48 AM
Why is there catching involved if there is a forcefield
Taunting maybe?

potential
05-31-2007, 05:15 AM
Sylar is not the one to taunt

escamoh
05-31-2007, 05:25 AM
In this weeks episode Sylar ate God's brain. So he is now omnipotent.

shadowrocks17
05-31-2007, 05:33 AM
In this weeks episode Sylar ate God's brain. So he is now omnipotent.End Thread, Sylar > Zabuza's Sword, Jplaya Itachi, and Enels Mantra.

atom
05-31-2007, 05:39 AM
WTF? Now this is just getting stupid. The "GOD" God? If so, then Heroes is trash and I'm going to stop watching it.

shadowrocks17
05-31-2007, 05:53 AM
WTF? Now this is just getting stupid. The "GOD" God? If so, then Heroes is trash and I'm going to stop watching it.Aww don't cry Optard.

Heroes > One Piece.

If it makes you feel any better, I stop watching One Piecewhen Luffy cheated in beating Lucci by just being Hax for no reason.

atom
05-31-2007, 06:07 AM
Aww don't cry Optard.

Heroes > One Piece.

If it makes you feel any better, I stop watching One Piecewhen Luffy cheated in beating Lucci by just being Hax for no reason.
What are you talking about? Are you stupid or something????

I don't care whether Sylar wins this or not. I'm saying that if he can beat Gods, as in "GOD" God. Then Heroes is just some broken wannabe real life comic show.

Everyone knows mere humans will never beat omnipotent gods <_<


If it makes you feel any better, I stop watching One Piecewhen Luffy cheated in beating Lucci by just being Hax for no reason.
Luffy didn't cheat? Luffy lost too.. it was a double KO. Luffy even said it himself <_<

Sylar
05-31-2007, 10:17 AM
What are you talking about? Are you stupid or something????

I don't care whether Sylar wins this or not. I'm saying that if he can beat Gods, as in "GOD" God. Then Heroes is just some broken wannabe real life comic show.

Everyone knows mere humans will never beat omnipotent gods

Esca was kidding. :notrust

The season finale was last week so no new episodes until September. :cry

G-Man
05-31-2007, 11:57 AM
The absurdity of the OP-fans on this thread is stunning.

Enel is going to kill Sylar? Enel is in freaking outer space! Why would he zip down from space just to kill Sylar, whom he doesn't even know exists? Sylar can't even know Eneru exists either since by and large no one believes Skypiea even exists, so he can't go after him.

Why would he even fight Ms. Goldenweek? She's not a Devil Fruit-user! She's currently running some little podunk resturaunt out in the stix of the Grandline. She only has weak DF-users (in terms of their powers) with her anyway except for Mr. 5 (the bomb guy) so Sylar probably wouldn't even bother with her and her crew.

And people seriously overrate her. Her power is not an actual power, but a tool in the form of hypnotic paint. We have no idea how strong-willed/intelligent you have to be to break out of it (because she only ever used it on Luffy) so people automatically go on this no-limits fallacy which is ridiculous. Luffy is infamous for being very vulnerable to hypnosis, even when he's not the direct target of said hypnosis. They even mentioned it during the fight with her that Luffy was especially vulnerable to her way of fighting.

Crocodile and Daz Bones are still in prison! He's not going to run into them!

Bellamy is dead. Don Flamenco killed him.

The OP fans sole arguement is that Sylar will somehow magically run into one of the top tier guys in OP before he has time to breathe and they will magically recognize him as a threat and kill him with extreme prejudice. Pure ridiculousness. Sylar would have to have the worst luck in the multiverse.

Even if he's on a ship and pirates attack the strongest of the pirates isn't going to magically zero in on him and kill him in an instant. They are going to take their time pillaging the ship like always giving him time to TK rape.

And really, it's up to the thread starter (in this case) as to whether or not Sylar can take multiple DF powers, especially given the explanation as to why you can't have more than two DF powers and as to how Sylar gets more than one power. Can someone ask the thread starter to clear this up?

The thread starter's answer will determine whether or nto Sylar takes over in a few years (should be child's play to replace one of teh World Government's rulers with his powerset), or whether or not he's stuck remaining mid-tier at best ion the OPverse for the rest of his life.

Code
05-31-2007, 12:04 PM
The absurdity of the OP-fans on this thread is stunning.

Enel is going to kill Sylar? Enel is in freaking outer space! Why would he zip down from space just to kill Sylar, whom he doesn't even know exists? Sylar can't even know Eneru exists either since by and large no one believes Skypiea even exists, so he can't go after him.

The original post mentioned his goal being to take "all" devil fruits and to conquer the One Piece "verse", so if he can't get Enel, then he can't accomplish his goal and therefore loses.

Random Nobody
05-31-2007, 07:26 PM
@ G-Man:

Goldenweek used her powers during one of the cover arcs to break most of the BW members out of jail. All the marines and even Crocodile where effected by her paint.

potential
06-01-2007, 01:14 AM
Sylar can have multiple DF powers. His goal is to take over one piece verse.

atom
06-01-2007, 01:48 AM
If he can have multiple DF powers then your contradicting One Piece rule. Your just going to keep on changing the rules until Sylar wins. Anyway, i'm out of here. (this thread)

escamoh
06-01-2007, 02:01 AM
He is the fucking OP, if he says Sylar can have multiple DF powers then he can.

This is the OB, not OP. Many fights here have been made that contradict said universes rules.

atom
06-01-2007, 02:04 AM
Thats like saying, oh yeah, they can fight, but not breath.... yeah, its stupid.

escamoh
06-01-2007, 02:16 AM
No it's not stupid, not in this case at least.

It was pretty apparent he meant for Sylar to be able to have multiple DF powers from the first post. Or else what reason would he have to collect all the DF powers, it's obvious the role Sylar played in Heroes he wanted him to do the same thing in OP, which is to collect multiple powers.

atom
06-01-2007, 02:38 AM
It would've made more sense for him to get a DF power, then "throw it away" for a more powerful/useful one while killing DF people.


Ok, if you want to play by your rules. This thread is auto fail, he will never get to Enel.

//// End Thread.

Finn Mac Cool
06-01-2007, 06:48 PM
This thread is auto fail, he will never get to Enel.

//// End Thread.

Unless of course he uses Nathan's power to fly up to the moon (it has not been confirmed yet whether there's air on the One Piece moon or not, I believe), and, if he's already taken Luffy's rubber powers, I imagine Sylar could (along with a lot of other powers he's acquired in the OPverse) defeat Enel.

potential
06-02-2007, 12:36 AM
Damn Skippy

atom
06-02-2007, 12:53 AM
Unless of course he uses Nathan's power to fly up to the moon (it has not been confirmed yet whether there's air on the One Piece moon or not, I believe), and, if he's already taken Luffy's rubber powers, I imagine Sylar could (along with a lot of other powers he's acquired in the OPverse) defeat Enel. A moon is a moon. Besides, he would instantly die as soon as he leaves the atmosphere.

Random Nobody
06-02-2007, 01:32 AM
Enel can survive on the moon. Even if we assume its just because he's a logia then Sylar just needs to "eat" one of them first.

Finn Mac Cool
06-02-2007, 01:37 AM
A moon is a moon.

Tell that to the Ewoks. Or the people living on One Piece's moon for that matter.

Besides, he would instantly die as soon as he leaves the atmosphere.

Actually, even a normal human being can survive in the vacuum of space for up to a minute. I imagine there are powers in the One Piece verse to let him survive long enough to reach the moon. If all else fails, he could just wait to acquire another Logia power first (such as TK killing Smoker with his own Seastone weapon), which would let Sylar survive just about anything.

mister_napolean
06-02-2007, 01:39 AM
syler can phase through anything...