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The Anti-Existence
05-27-2007, 07:24 PM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7007/brolyxs8.jpg

The insane Legendary Super Saiyan comes to the WH40K-verse.....

What happens?

Notes about Broly:
-Destroyed the South Galaxy in Dragonball Z
-Was shown to be capable of vaporizing planets with casual handblasts with no charging of energy.
-has the Saiyan ability to grow stronger from injury.
-in his "Legendary Super Saiyan" form (the pic) his power only increases.
-He can be mind-controlled but exposure to Goku is a bad idea.
-Survived his planet being destroyed as an infant by creating a bubble that protected himself and his father.
-Can travel through space on his own through this bubble.
-Also survived an assassination attempt as a baby.
-Not a very good fighter in terms of skill. He's a brawler.
-Not too bright; most likely categorized as a bloodthirsty psychopath.

From what I've heard of others on this subject, Broly will be controlled by a Chaos God in no time. And then he'll destroy everything and anything if it tries to fight him one-on-one. Only mindraping will be their hope.

A
05-27-2007, 07:33 PM
The most powerful beings are the Chaos God's followed by lesser, including the C'tan stargod's--Brurori showed in the 8th movie to be able to in one blast destroy a galaxy in about 3 second's (you see a green light expanding consuming a galaxy)
Such power have never been demostrated in Warhammer, he would fuck the universe up pretty bad, as long as he don't fly into a sun/star.
:P

TWF
05-27-2007, 07:56 PM
I think the Chaos gods would curbstomp him.

A
05-27-2007, 07:59 PM
I think the Chaos gods would curbstomp him.
He's backed up by Toei animation...Which have given him powers surpassing everyone in the manga.

TWF
05-27-2007, 08:03 PM
Their not involved with the Warhammer 40,000 game though. :P

In all serious, Brolly never destroyed the Southern Galaxy. All he did was eradicate all the life in the planets in the Southern Galaxy.

Crimson Dragoon
05-27-2007, 08:19 PM
Broly will become a Khornate in no time.

A
05-27-2007, 08:30 PM
Broly will become a Khornate in no time.

Seriously I would pay to see that :oh

Akatora
05-27-2007, 08:31 PM
Yeah Khorne would be the most likely place for him to end, Slanesh might have a chance, but not likely.

The 2 others i don't see work with him, unless Nurgle for Biobroly

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 08:39 PM
Their not involved with the Warhammer 40,000 game though. :P

In all serious, Brolly never destroyed the Southern Galaxy. All he did was eradicate all the life in the planets in the Southern Galaxy.

It clearly showed him wipe out the whole galaxy including the planets.

Akatora
05-27-2007, 08:50 PM
It clearly showed him wipe out the whole galaxy including the planets.

Thats true, but it could be a metafor, or just a quick summary.

Also is it only in the movies or did't DB originally only have 4 Galaxys:huh

Supreme Kai's ain't seeming all the great if 4 Galaxys is all there really is

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Thats true, but it could be a metafor, or just a quick summary.

Also is it only in the movies or did't DB originally only have 4 Galaxys:huh

Supreme Kai's ain't seeming all the great if 4 Galaxys is all there really is

It wasn't a summary. King Kai clearly sensed it at the moment Broly destroyed the galaxy.

It was in the original DB where it was established that there were only 4 galaxies. All the cardinal directions.

A
05-27-2007, 08:56 PM
Thats true, but it could be a metafor, or just a quick summary.

Also is it only in the movies or did't DB originally only have 4 Galaxys:huh

Supreme Kai's ain't seeming all the great if 4 Galaxys is all there really is
Than why did Kai looked so suprised and scared?
If this happened under a long period of time, Kai would be aware of it, and he wouldent say to Goku that just happen.
"Recently the south galaxy was destroyed."

Thanatos
05-27-2007, 08:56 PM
Thats true, but it could be a metafor, or just a quick summary.

And destroying the Galaxy would be a metafor for...?

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 08:57 PM
Here's proof:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v332386Wt4f2YRt?searchId=7272511331211506705&rank=0

The Anti-Existence
05-27-2007, 09:13 PM
How much destruction you reckon Broly would cause?

And Chaos Corruption...an even MORE violent Broly...poor WH40K.

atom
05-27-2007, 09:31 PM
[Fanboy]

Wwaht teh fukz? Tsi is stoppid. Brooly csaully vblows up teh univerze with his bomvb. omg his is no gaulet its rape.

luk it up mods.

The Nameless Pharaoh
05-28-2007, 08:22 AM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7007/brolyxs8.jpg
-Not too bright; most likely categorized as a bloodthirsty psychopath.

True but he is not un-intelligent. The fact that he still had memories of Goku after all those years proves that.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 09:38 AM
You are right. i wouldn't say Broly isn't smart but his thought processes are dominated by his mania and rage. He focusses more on sadism than rationale or strategy.

One could argue this berserker tendency makes him "stupid."

Gaelek_13
05-28-2007, 10:28 AM
Broly could be manipulated very easily by Tzeentch - just show him illusions of Goku and let him obliterate your enemies. No matter how strong or insane Broly is he can't compete with the will of a God.

To be honest though his sheer berserker fury would just leave him wide open for Khorne to control.

Broly the Daemon Prince *shudder*

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 11:30 AM
Questions, then.

1. As soon as you enter the WH40K, can these CHaos God sinfluence you?

2. Is there anyone actually as powerful as him? That could stop him in combat? Perhaps this God-Emperor I hear so much about? Or was it some guy named Angron?

3. So Daemon Prince is a ranking? Is there anything higher? Does it offer some sort of power-up?

Crimson Dragoon
05-28-2007, 11:46 AM
The Chaos Gods can influence someone who has a very strong presence in the warp. In Broly's case, he's going to shine very brightly in the warp.

The God-Emperor can stop Broly through sheer psychic might. The Emperor once fired a psychic lance of energy that was described as a supernova, which drove all four Chaos Gods back and killed their strongest avatar.

Daemon Prince does offer power-ups, yes. A Daemon Prince is one of the most powerful forces of chaos and also has many gifts given to him by the Chaos Gods, leading to many abilities.

Darklyre
05-28-2007, 12:13 PM
High-class psykers/sorcerers could possibly mindblast him. A Culexus Assassin has a chance, seeing as he's soulless and beings with bright warp presences are literally in pain just by being around them. Those guys are nigh-untouchable since people instinctively look away from them. Give them a C'tan phase blade and as long as they get the first attack, Brolly is dead.

No matter what, though, Brolly can't get past Lucius the Eternal. If he kills him, he becomes him and loses anyway.

A
05-28-2007, 12:18 PM
True but he is not un-intelligent. The fact that he still had memories of Goku after all those years proves that.
Actually intellect and memory are two completely different thing's.
The movie rainman illustrated that, that guy wasent unnormaly bright, just was very good at memorizing.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 12:25 PM
So what's the highest rank?

Crimson Dragoon
05-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Daemon Prince is the highest rank a servant of chaos can attain IIRC.

A
05-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Isnt Everchosen higher?

Crimson Dragoon
05-28-2007, 01:31 PM
The rank of Everchosen is in Warhammer Fantasy, not 40k.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 01:43 PM
The most powerful beings are the Chaos God's followed by lesser, including the C'tan stargod's--Brurori showed in the 8th movie to be able to in one blast destroy a galaxy in about 3 second's (you see a green light expanding consuming a galaxy)
Such power have never been demostrated in Warhammer, he would fuck the universe up pretty bad, as long as he don't fly into a sun/star.
:P

meh, I don't like this statement. As I see it, the C'tan Gods and Chaos Gods are equal and polar opposites from each other.

I would really like to see how Brolly is going to get through Lucius the Eternal.
The moment Brolly kills him, he is going to transform to Lucius anyway. :/

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 02:08 PM
Isn't Broly's Chaos God, Khorne, stronger than Lucius'?

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 02:12 PM
no, Lucius the Eternal is the champion of Slaneesh.

I'm just stating the fact that Chaos Gods aren't even NEEDED to beat Brolly.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 02:24 PM
Except that Broly would be Khorne's Daemon Prince.

And as such, you think his Chaos God would allow him to be turned into a Marine by the scion of a weaker god?

More than likely Khorne would keep Broly away from Lucius to begin with.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 02:33 PM
I dont think Khorne is able to transform brolly back to his original state.

If Brolly kills Lucius, he turns into Lucius.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 02:49 PM
But he wouldn't let Broly kill him in the first place.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 02:55 PM
and how is he going to "stop" Broly from killing Lucius if Lucius decides to attack Broly with the help of Slaanesh IF khorne intervenes?

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 03:00 PM
Well, from what I hear, Khorne is the strongest Chaos God...so there goes Lucius' god.

Plus Broly has a forcefield that he can cover his body in. I'm gonna wager it can take any attack Lucius has so he won't provoke or effect Broly by damage.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 03:18 PM
Actually Nurgle or Tzeentch is about to surpass Khorne
memory is a bit fuzzy right now


Besides, Khorne hasnt killed Slaanesh or any other chaos gods yet so i doubt he will now.

If ANYTHING, khorne is the blood god. He WOULD LOVE to see broly fight Lucius.

Why does it matter if Broly has a forcefield or not?

IF Brolly kills Lucius, it's the end of Broly, like it or not.

Heartgobbler
05-28-2007, 03:20 PM
In direct physical combat, nothing could match him.

When it comes to magic, he is killable. His mind isn't anything special.

There are forces in Warhammer capable of driving whole planets insane.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 03:21 PM
It matters because Broly wouldn't even be hurt by Lucius. There'd be no fight. He wouldn't do anything to Lucius. End of story.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 03:28 PM
How do you know there will be no fight? This is warhammer 40k for crying out loud

ITS ALL ABOUT fighting.

and knowing broly's temper, i wouldnt be surprise if he did attack lucius just for the hell of it.

Darklyre
05-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Even if Brolly isn't provoked by Lucius himself, his sorcerors will get past the forcefield and piss him off, or kill him outright via mind attacks.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 04:55 PM
What are the odds these two will meet anyway?

And won't have this god on his side protect him? I have this topic on multiple boards and they're saying Khorne won't allow such things while you all are.

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 05:00 PM
odds? well look at the topic :/.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 05:02 PM
Well, it's not Broly: Mission Kill Everything in WH40K.

Just him in the universe. And him just being there doesn't mean he'll meet everything and everyone, does it?

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 05:06 PM
so? i mentioned lucius. why cant he meet up with lucius?
fear?

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Broly never demonstrated fear of anything. Due mainly to his berserker nature.

And you said he'd meet Lucius. Tell me WHY he would. What reason would they have to meet?

Sengoku
05-28-2007, 05:10 PM
why? as i will state yet again, because seems like people are stating that the chaos gods are needed to beat broly which in this case is not TRUE.

lucius himself can already beat broly.

Darklyre
05-28-2007, 05:56 PM
Brolly would have problems depending on where he goes. The Imperium of Man's territories has high-class psykers all over the place, along with Culexus assassins and other such stuff. Eldar craftworlds pack Seers and Farseers, who are all easily high-end psykers. Necrons have C'tan, any of whom would probably erase Brolly from existence the moment he becomes a threat. If he tries for melee combat against Necron forces I'm not sure if he'd be able to dodge the Gauss Flayers. Walking into the Eye of Terror makes him an instant target for the Chaos Gods and their attendant champions (meaning Kharn, Lucius, etc.).

If he goes into Ork, Tau, Dark Eldar, and possibly remote Imperial and Tyranid space, he can take out pretty much everything there. The Orks and Tau are too physical in warfare to be able to take him on. Remote Imperial locations lack the psykers to do damage. There aren't enough Dark Eldar to really pose a threat to him, and the Tyranids are too set on simply slogging their way through to take notice of him or try and find a way around his physical defenses.

The Anti-Existence
05-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Well, this is what one person told me.
Khorne would give him a Collar of Khorne and the IoM would be like "Aw fuck".

Plus he seems to have the most raw destructive power of anything outside of this "Warp" thing. He should just go flying about and slagging galaxies.

Darklyre
05-29-2007, 12:26 AM
The thing with the Warp is that it's very destructive...metaphysically. Moving through the Warp alone can cause death via daemonic possession, among other nasty things. Simply being Warp-sensitive (meaning psykers before training or Inquisitorial death) is enough to make you a huge threat via daemonic taint.