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potential
05-27-2007, 06:07 PM
Sylar is transported there by some omnipotent being for entertainment. He wakes up and sees Nauto nin's in action and decides he wants to takeover narutoverse and take there powers. Do you think through cunning and wits he can takeover. BTw he can take there powers by eating them an shit.

The Foot Of Justice
05-27-2007, 06:08 PM
Can he take their powers?


Byakugan/sharingan? :nuts

potential
05-27-2007, 06:09 PM
Yep sure can.

Violent Man
05-27-2007, 06:21 PM
1.) Well current Sylar is dead so you have to choose the last live Sylar or President Sylar.

2.) And when he eats them does he get all of their powers and jutsu's, their strongest or can he choose which one.

3.) Do the nins know he is their enemy or do they see him as just some civilian.

Enclave
05-27-2007, 06:25 PM
1.) Well current Sylar is dead so you have to choose the last live Sylar or President Sylar.

2.) And when he eats them does he get all of their powers and jutsu's, their strongest or can he choose which one.

3.) Do the nins know he is their enemy or do they see him as just some civilian.

Knowing Sylar he would do his best to avoid being known for as long as he can.

King Bookah
05-27-2007, 06:25 PM
Narutoverse wins, unless Sylar decides to go nuclear. In which, Sylar wins. If they kill Sylar before that, it's a done deal.

mystictrunks
05-27-2007, 06:27 PM
sylar goes up to tsunade. eats her. then eats her brain.

Learns all her techniques and henges into her. he then goes out and starts making power moves.

Pimp of Pimps
05-27-2007, 06:32 PM
Sylar isn't dead.

If sylar did his mind thing, he would only be able to take bloodlines. He'd have to actually learn the jutsus to use them.

Taleran
05-27-2007, 06:35 PM
he wouldn't need them


his TK, Ice, Melting, Nuclear, etc etc would be enough

The Foot Of Justice
05-27-2007, 06:47 PM
Sylar isn't dead.

If sylar did his mind thing, he would only be able to take bloodlines. He'd have to actually learn the jutsus to use them.


If he gets a sharingan he wouldn't.

Pimp of Pimps
05-27-2007, 06:50 PM
If he gets a sharingan he wouldn't.

In order to copy a jutsu with the sharingan, one must have the amount of chakra control required to use the jutsu in the first place. Sylar probably won't have much chakra control in the start.

But when he does gain enough chakra control, then he should be able to.

And when are you coming back :arg

potential
05-27-2007, 07:13 PM
Sylar with one eye sharingan an one eye byakugan. Scary powerful

Sylar
05-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Sylar takes this easily.

If he gets jutsu by eating brains, then he just takes out a couple of no name escaped ninja and, thanks to his power of understanding, instantly masters them.

From there he starts making moves and killing ninjas and acquiring as many jutsu as possible.

Eventually he'll be offered a role in Akatsuki because he WILL be that powerful.

From there he either kills his partner or simply uses Akatsuki to get as many abilities as possible.

Soon he will be unstoppable.

potential
05-27-2007, 07:31 PM
Sylar better not try to fight ITachi from the beggining though

Sylar
05-27-2007, 07:37 PM
I actually don't see why he couldn't.

The second he discovers not to look at Itachi, he just closes his eyes and uses his hearing to find Itachi and then TKs his brain.

Simple, clean, and brainerific!

The Foot Of Justice
05-27-2007, 07:38 PM
Sylar better not try to fight ITachi from the beggining though

If Itachi doesn't go for the kill from the start he loses. Sylar isn't one to hold back.

Pimp of Pimps
05-27-2007, 07:39 PM
By the time he discovers not to look into Itachi's eyes, it would have been too late.

potential
05-27-2007, 07:42 PM
Thats what im saying. I think though that Sylar will somehow know Itavh is powerful and wait till the time is right to attack. Or he could wait till itachi turn around and tk

Blix
05-27-2007, 09:41 PM
lol Imagine sylar with the abilities of bijuus. Oh yeah slyar wins this with nuke

Supa Swag
05-27-2007, 10:39 PM
Current Sylar takes this with time.


President/Future Sylar CURBRAPES them

Sylar
05-27-2007, 10:40 PM
Future Sylar versus almost ANY verse is rape.

He's just so damn cheap and powerful.

Elijah Snow
05-28-2007, 01:43 AM
He takes over and defeats the Naruto U with ease. Next stop, Bleach U.

Taleran
05-28-2007, 01:53 AM
Future Sylar versus almost ANY verse is rape.

He's just so damn cheap and powerful.


maybe in underpowered shounen

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:57 AM
Sylar gets stabbed by a katana and dies

wonder where that idea came from...

K I S K E
05-28-2007, 02:08 AM
Well, ninjas don't have powers... Justy abilities... . . .
I think Gaara would kill him... >_>

Random Nobody
05-28-2007, 02:19 AM
I don't know a great deal about Sylar besides what I've read online due to my inability to consistently catch TV shows at the right time, but didn't he gain the power to manipulate radiation? The same power that caused one of the characters to nuke New York?

Supa Swag
05-28-2007, 03:15 AM
Well, ninjas don't have powers... Justy abilities... . . .
I think Gaara would kill him... >_>


Well considering Sylar has:
-Ice powers
-Telekinesis
-Radiation
-Super hearing (can differentiate a persons heart beat and hear their footsteps miles away)
-Liquidizing objects with a touch
-Knowing how things "work"
-Super memory
-premonition (ability to know what happens in the future by drawing it)
-some other powers we haven't seen yet



Gaara's gonna have to pull some serious stuff to kill Sylar.

Havoc
05-28-2007, 03:28 AM
Sylar has to have some sort of healing ability as well.

potential
05-28-2007, 04:08 AM
Can Sylar liquify people?

Havoc
05-28-2007, 04:09 AM
There was no indication of if he could or couldn't. I'd assume he could though.

potential
05-28-2007, 04:10 AM
Then utter rape. He could just touch and liquify you

masamune1
05-28-2007, 08:47 AM
Itachi catches him in a simple Genjutsu. Whilst Sylar wonders what is going on, Kisame cuts him to pieces.

Lord Snow
05-28-2007, 01:10 PM
Itachi can solo Sylar with the sharingan. Also most of the ninjas in Naruto can speed blitz Sylar.
Sylar probably won`t use his nuclear powers because he would kill himself since he has no healing abilities.

Limit_Tester
05-28-2007, 01:13 PM
Sylar doesn't have the speed or reaction time to defeat the Narutoverse. He wouldn't even be able to kill a village.

Sylar
05-28-2007, 03:29 PM
If Sylar goes nuclear he WOULD survive because Peter lived in the future despite not having healing powers.

And Future Sylar would solo the Narutoverse easily.

Supa Swag
05-28-2007, 03:53 PM
Itachi can solo Sylar with the sharingan. Also most of the ninjas in Naruto can speed blitz Sylar.
Sylar probably won`t use his nuclear powers because he would kill himself since he has no healing abilities.


I think Sylar does have some kind of speed. In one episode, he managed to sneak up behind a woman who has super hearing (meaning she could hear a person coming miles away).


Sylar doesn't have the speed or reaction time to defeat the Narutoverse.


Hes gotta have some reaction time if he can deflect bullets.

Havoc
05-28-2007, 05:36 PM
Itachi can solo Sylar with the sharingan. Also most of the ninjas in Naruto can speed blitz Sylar.
Sylar probably won`t use his nuclear powers because he would kill himself since he has no healing abilities.

Sylar can stop bullets when a gun is fired a couple feet away from him...

Finn Mac Cool
05-28-2007, 06:04 PM
Well, first Sylar has to find and kill some low rank ninja and take his powers; he will then have the ability to manipulate chakra and train his body to high levels of strength and speed like ninjas do. He wouldn't learn how to perform jutsus just from taking their brains, but Sylar's "knowing how things work" ability has let him master abilities pretty quickly in the past, so I imagine he'd be a fast learner. Combined with the abilities he already has (including telekinesis that can throw cars around and block bullets, and radiation powers that could take out an entire city), and the ability to steal bloodline limits, it might take Sylar a few years, but I think he could very well take over the Narutoverse.

Steven Pinhead
05-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Well since there's ways to learn jutsu's from a person's body, there would be no need to make that a given ability. He could already figure it out.

Sylar basically rapes the whole universe

potential
05-28-2007, 10:01 PM
Sylar Tking orochimaru's head in half. SWEeeeeeeet

Sylar
05-28-2007, 10:03 PM
Sylar w/ Hidan's Power!!

:omg :omg :omg :omg :omg

Random Nobody
05-28-2007, 10:08 PM
So he'd be like Hidan only intelligent and he'd have TK. Yeah not many people are beating that.

Lord Snow
05-29-2007, 01:10 AM
Sylar can stop bullets when a gun is fired a couple feet away from him...

Yeah, but there are many in Naruto who can move faster than a bullet.

I think that everyone is forgetting that all someone in the Narutoverse has to do to kill Sylar is decapitate him because if you remeber all the way back at the begininng of the season Clarie`s powers stop working when there was a branch lodged in her neck. Thus even President Sylar could be killed if he was beheaded.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:28 AM
Because of course they'll know that. :notrust

Havoc
05-29-2007, 01:32 AM
Didn't Sylar stop a bullet after it was fired like a foot away from his face?

The Internet
05-29-2007, 01:36 AM
Didn't Sylar stop a bullet after it was fired like a foot away from his face?

Only time I remember that is when the cop fired at him, and dude, he was NOT a foot away. He was at least 10 yards away

Sylar
05-29-2007, 01:56 AM
Mohinder was less than a foot away and Sylar was tied to a chair at the time.

He stopped the bullet a cm from his forehead like it was nothing.

atom
05-29-2007, 02:02 AM
Sylars winning streak ends at Sasori.

Sylar: I've come to eat your brain.
Sasori: Huh?
Sylar: *Eats*
Sasori: Oh yeah... forgot to tell you.. I dun got a brain.
Sasori: *stabs*
Sasori: But I do got poison!

Sylar has left the game
Sylar is eliminated.

Havoc
05-29-2007, 02:03 AM
Mohinder was less than a foot away and Sylar was tied to a chair at the time.

He stopped the bullet a cm from his forehead like it was nothing.

Yep, that's it.

Sylar
05-29-2007, 02:32 AM
Sylars winning streak ends at Sasori.

Sylar: I've come to eat your brain.
Sasori: Huh?
Sylar: *Eats*
Sasori: Oh yeah... forgot to tell you.. I dun got a brain.
Sasori: *stabs*
Sasori: But I do got poison!

Sylar has left the game
Sylar is eliminated.

He'd know Sasori doesn't have a brain.

His understanding power allows him that just like it let him know Peter's power was similar to his.

atom
05-29-2007, 02:47 AM
He'd know Sasori doesn't have a brain.

His understanding power allows him that just like it let him know Peter's power was similar to his.
Either way, Sasori would beat him, one way or another.

Supa Swag
05-29-2007, 04:16 AM
Sylars winning streak ends at Sasori.

Sylar: I've come to eat your brain.
Sasori: Huh?
Sylar: *Eats*
Sasori: Oh yeah... forgot to tell you.. I dun got a brain.
Sasori: *stabs*
Sasori: But I do got poison!

Sylar has left the game
Sylar is eliminated.

Sylar uses his super hearing to figure out that Sasori has no organs. Sylar deems him as useless and proceeds to TK throw him away.

Lord Snow
05-29-2007, 10:02 AM
Because of course they'll know that. :notrust

-Zabuza`s sword is a head cleaver.
-When Asuma and Co. found out about Hidan`s abilities they decided to behead him.

-Also Suigetsu is known for beheading people.

Limit_Tester
05-30-2007, 01:22 AM
Sylar sets up a TK field before the gun is fired. It's why the bullets slow down and stop when they come within a few inches of him. He does not actually have the speed or reaction time to deal with bullets after they are fired. No one in the Heroesverse has any notable speed. Certainly, not in line with that of Chuunin+ ninjas.

Supa Swag
05-30-2007, 01:24 AM
Nathan can fly pretty fast.

And I still think Sylar has some type of speed to be able to sneak up on a woman with super hearing.

Limit_Tester
05-30-2007, 01:27 AM
Nathan can fly pretty fast.

And I still think Sylar has some type of speed to be able to sneak up on a woman with super hearing.

Nathan can break the sound barrier if he is in a clear area, but otherwise he is pretty much a normal human. Sylar killing a middle-aged woman with super hearing because he used TK to float over isn't exactly an accomplishment.

Supa Swag
05-30-2007, 01:35 AM
I thought about the floating being the reason, but she should still be able to hear his heartbeat.

Limit_Tester
05-30-2007, 05:57 PM
I thought about the floating being the reason, but she should still be able to hear his heartbeat.

She did. That and she constantly muffles her hearing with loud rap music.

Nihonjin
05-30-2007, 09:00 PM
At first I figured Sylar would win.
But seeing how Hiro actually stabbed him pretty easily I say he loses to anyone who has above avarage speeds...

Elijah Snow
05-31-2007, 01:54 AM
^yeah cause fighting someone who can teleport and manipulate time is easy to dodge.

Plus this was like Hiro's 2nd or 3rd attempt to kill Sylar, he must have assumed he didn't have the nerve to do it.

Cthulhu-versailles
05-31-2007, 02:00 AM
Any Team Chunnin is enough to completly destroy Current Sylar. Sylar's only truly dangerous threat against multiple opponents, all of which are utterly and totally faster/stronger/durable then him, would be his nuclear powers. However, if he goes to big, he is liable to die, given that he lacks claire's ability. Further still, releasing that kind of output is going to get him discovered and put in a bingo book. In any case, Sylar is blitz with extreme ease. Not to mention that basically any Naruto nin could kill him with one direct physical hit.

Now, even if Sylar gains a few ninja's abilities any team of competant Jounin utterly destroys him without question. He is completly defenseless against the most basic genjutsu. Moreover, Sylar may have super hearing, but Naruto nins aren't exactly normal humans in that regard either. Yet, there are still those that can sneak up on one another and vice versa.

Final note = Any high tier annihaltes Sylar even if he goes and takes some ninja abilties here and there. In fact, Sylar is unlikely to even get too many good abilties before being killed, or being put in a bingo book. Seriously, he really needs to go after the fodder ninja's. Most of which won't give him anything decent to take on even mid level nins.

Elijah Snow
05-31-2007, 02:08 AM
I severely doubt that any ninja short of Yondaime can sneak up on Sylar with his super hearing is involved.

Random Nobody
05-31-2007, 02:27 AM
Show me a ninja that can conceal there heartbeat. No stealth skill in Naruto at this point has been shown to conceal a person's heartbeat.

atom
05-31-2007, 02:51 AM
Sasori could sneak up on him. Since he only has a artificial heart. Not a real one.

Lord Snow
05-31-2007, 03:20 AM
I severely doubt that any ninja short of Yondaime can sneak up on Sylar with his super hearing is involved.

What Rock lee told Sasuke applies to this situation as well, what does it matter if Sylar can hear his opponent coming if his body cannot react in time. Sylar is no where near being able to match the speed of characters like Gai,Itachi and Yondaime.

or

Shikamaru can just use his Kagemane to trap Sylar(from a distance) then have another ninja kill him.

escamoh
05-31-2007, 04:22 AM
Did you guys see when that guy was using his nuclear powers in Claire's house?


No Naruto nin would even be able to get close to him, no attack could reach him, neither could any weapon.

Sylar would have problems against summons though, I don't think anyone has brought that up yet.

And also since there is no ring out, Sylar could always just fly away if need be.



On a side note I have a question. What ever happened to that invisible guy?

potential
05-31-2007, 04:24 AM
dunno i guess he'l come back in the second season

Sylar
05-31-2007, 10:13 AM
For those who say the ninjas can sneak up on Sylar:

Dale, whose hearing was weaker and not as controlled as Sylar's, was able to hear a cockroach crawl over her neighbor's floor so well it sounded like a drum.

Sylar's hearing is much more controlled and most likely improved. You're not sneaking up on him. He will hear you coming, period.

rockst☆r sin
05-31-2007, 10:17 AM
Did you guys see when that guy was using his nuclear powers in Claire's house?


No Naruto nin would even be able to get close to him, no attack could reach him, neither could any weapon.

Sylar would have problems against summons though, I don't think anyone has brought that up yet.

And also since there is no ring out, Sylar could always just fly away if need be.



On a side note I have a question. What ever happened to that invisible guy?

Now that Thompson and Linderman is dead, Claude might stop running away and try and help Noah and Mohinder.

G-Man
05-31-2007, 10:45 AM
What is this bizarre obsession this board has with rapestomping the Narutoverse?

Anyway, Sylar's biggest advantage isn't just his power-stealing, but also his patience. He will kill scrub nuke-nins until he feels strong enough or he gets something significant to allow him to challenege the big guns. Killing nuke-nins won't get him put in the Bingo Book. It'll take him years, but he'll conquer the Narutoverse.

Hell, he can just kill some daimyo, rule that country, and use it to start a world shinobi war. He can scour the battlfefields for recently dead ninjas that way. Or, he can hire ninjas that are high-level and hire high-levels from some other village to assasinate them. Teh two sides fight, and he finishes off the weakened survivors while they are offguard with his very impressive TK.

He's basically one of us, if we had the power (and ruthlessness) to steal other people's abilities by eating their brains. And he's too smart to pick a direct fight.

The only way he loses is if he's unlucky and stumbles across someone major before he's learned the lay of the land and how the Narutoverse works. Highly unlikely since most Narutoverse ninja would just see him as a harmless civilian and underestimate him, giving him time to TK them.

Lord Snow
05-31-2007, 01:21 PM
For those who say the ninjas can sneak up on Sylar:

Dale, whose hearing was weaker and not as controlled as Sylar's, was able to hear a cockroach crawl over her neighbor's floor so well it sounded like a drum.

Sylar's hearing is much more controlled and most likely improved. You're not sneaking up on him. He will hear you coming, period.

His hearing is useless if his body can`t react in time. Also Shikamaru`s Kagemane will make no noise as it gets close to Sylar. After he`s trapped any ninja can go up to him and kill him.

shadowrocks17
05-31-2007, 01:25 PM
Ninja's fall even the might Uchiha Bros are mediorce in front of a guy who ate gods mind.

Sasori
05-31-2007, 01:40 PM
Yeah, but there are many in Naruto who can move faster than a bullet.

I think that everyone is forgetting that all someone in the Narutoverse has to do to kill Sylar is decapitate him because if you remeber all the way back at the begininng of the season Clarie`s powers stop working when there was a branch lodged in her neck. Thus even President Sylar could be killed if he was beheaded.Actually the only point where they can be killed is the back of the head, probably where their genetic defect which causes their powers originates from.

1. Claire and Peter both died due to objects lodged in the same general location.

2. Peter specifically stated that Claire should shoot him in the back of the head, ie. the only place it would work for.

Wait Future Sylar has Claire's abilities lol?

^yeah cause fighting someone who can teleport and manipulate time is easy to dodge.

Plus this was like Hiro's 2nd or 3rd attempt to kill Sylar, he must have assumed he didn't have the nerve to do it.Yea, it wos pretty much plot if u think about how far away Hiro was from Sylar.

There was more than enough time to TK him away.

Did you guys see when that guy was using his nuclear powers in Claire's house?


No Naruto nin would even be able to get close to him, no attack could reach him, neither could any weapon.

Sylar would have problems against summons though, I don't think anyone has brought that up yet.

And also since there is no ring out, Sylar could always just fly away if need be.Yea I agree with esca.

On a side note I have a question. What ever happened to that invisible guy?Fucking sleepin wominz lulz

Also are we forgetting that Future Sylar has that chick's power of illusions?

lol that's Aizen level h4x right there.

Also DL's intagibility?

Also although not relevent in this debate, I'm pretty sure Sylar has a tonne more abilities than he showed, seeing how many ppl he killed.

Pimp of Pimps
05-31-2007, 06:23 PM
Future Sylar was strong as fuck. The man was basically a God.

Nihonjin
05-31-2007, 08:27 PM
Sylars hearing isn't perfect btw...when he was "killing" Ando Hiro popped up behind him, Sylar didn't even notice him until Hiro said something >_>
He'll get raped...seriously...
Future Sylar might be able to do it, but the current Sylar? NO WAY.

escamoh
05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
The Ando part was obviously PIS. I mean he just stood there and left himself get stabbed. When just 5 minutes earlier he was fast enough to stop bullets with his TK.

Moogoogaipan
05-31-2007, 08:36 PM
I think current Sylar could win this win time. He has almost unlimited potential. As long as he plays this safe slowly becoming stronger and stronger he coudl rule the narutoverse.

Also Hiro stabbing Sylar was just fucked up. I mean cmon the writers had to be on crack when they wrote that scene. If it wasnt that then they probably thought Hiro just teleporting, surprising Sylar was enough to kill him.

@lk3mizt
05-31-2007, 08:45 PM
The Ando part was obviously PIS. I mean he just stood there and left himself get stabbed. When just 5 minutes earlier he was fast enough to stop bullets with his TK.

it's called shock my friend. The Hiro he knew was a bumbling gutless twit. he honestly did not expect Hiro to pluck out the courage to stab him. a while ago, i used to say that i can never be killed in a car crash if i saw the car coming from behind. that i would jump out of the car before it hit. i was soooo wrong! a big ass truck come towards my car and i just stood there, mouth wide open. that's what is called shock.

I think current Sylar could win this win time. He has almost unlimited potential. As long as he plays this safe slowly becoming stronger and stronger he coudl rule the narutoverse.

all he needs to do it get itachi's brain (simple as fuck, telekinesis his ass to the wall and get that brain!! :kukuku
Also Hiro stabbing Sylar was just fucked up. I mean cmon the writers had to be on crack when they wrote that scene. If it wasnt that then they probably thought Hiro just teleporting, surprising Sylar was enough to kill him.


same as above ...

escamoh
05-31-2007, 08:50 PM
it's called shock my friend. The Hiro he knew was a bumbling gutless twit. he honestly did not expect Hiro to pluck out the courage to stab him. a while ago, i used to say that i can never be killed in a car crash if i saw the car coming from behind. that i would jump out of the car before it hit. i was soooo wrong! a big ass truck come towards my car and i just stood there, mouth wide open. that's what is called shock.


all he needs to do it get itachi's brain (simple as fuck, telekinesis his ass to the wall and get that brain!! :kukuku



same as above ...

Shock = PIS in this occasion...

@lk3mizt
05-31-2007, 09:05 PM
lol suit yourself! :amuse

Elijah Snow
06-01-2007, 01:55 AM
The flaw in a lot of pro-Naruto people have in this debate is how you guys all assume Sylar is just gonna pop up and start fighting left and right. The man is methodical and patient. He will wait and wait and when you least expect it he will kill you. He doesn't let his excitement get to him if he realizes it's detrimental to his mission. The man is cunning and tactical, he makes no wasted moves and will patiently wait for his chance to strike.

Steven Pinhead
06-01-2007, 07:53 PM
His hearing is useless if his body can`t react in time. Also Shikamaru`s Kagemane will make no noise as it gets close to Sylar. After he`s trapped any ninja can go up to him and kill him.

Trapping Sylar in Kagemane will do about as good as.... NOTHING!

Sylar can only be stopped with brain paralysis, which didn't last for long, and he doesn't need to move to use any of his powers.

And if you can stop a bullet in it's path before it's reaching you, then nothing in Narutoverse is getting close to him. Sylar doing that is the equivalent of Neo in the Matrix.

potential
06-02-2007, 12:33 AM
Damn u right. I never thought about that. And he could fly at mach speed. Hmm...

Limit_Tester
06-02-2007, 05:51 PM
Again, Sylar stops bullets by putting up a TK field before the bullets are fired. It's why the bullets slow down and stop as they approach within a few inches. He is not capable of "reacting" to bullets. Heck, he wasn't even capable of reacting to a pudgy japanese guy from 10 feet.

Sylar
06-02-2007, 05:52 PM
He had no clue that the Japanese guy had the balls to do what he couldn't do just a few hours ago.

Limit_Tester
06-02-2007, 06:10 PM
He had no clue that the Japanese guy had the balls to do what he couldn't do just a few hours ago.

Well he did have the balls to do it a few hours back, but he hesitated first, and Sylar withdrew his offer, so to speak. Granted there was PIS with the way Hiro killed Sylar, but the fact remains that Sylar's reaction time and speed is really not much more than peak-human. Someone like Captain America would probably be able to take him down with some prep.

Sylar
06-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Well he did have the balls to do it a few hours back, but he hesitated first, and Sylar withdrew his offer, so to speak. Granted there was PIS with the way Hiro killed Sylar, but the fact remains that Sylar's reaction time and speed is really not much more than peak-human. Someone like Captain America would probably be able to take him down with some prep.

Okay explain how he managed to catch Hiro's sword after Hiro stopped time.

Time restarted when the sword was inches from beheading Sylar and he never hesitated and caught the sword with his HAND.

atom
06-02-2007, 06:12 PM
There are so many plot holes in Heroes its not even funny.

Limit_Tester
06-02-2007, 06:18 PM
Okay explain how he managed to catch Hiro's sword after Hiro stopped time.

Time restarted when the sword was inches from beheading Sylar and he never hesitated and caught the sword with his HAND.

Because the time stop ended and the sword was about a foot away. Hiro at that point was a below average human in terms of physical ability with zero sword experience. A peak-human like Sylar would have no problem stopping the sword with TK, which he did.

Sylar
06-02-2007, 06:23 PM
But he didn't stop it with TK.

He caught it with his hand.

Cthulhu-versailles
06-02-2007, 06:23 PM
The flaw in a lot of pro-Naruto people have in this debate is how you guys all assume Sylar is just gonna pop up and start fighting left and right. The man is methodical and patient. He will wait and wait and when you least expect it he will kill you. He doesn't let his excitement get to him if he realizes it's detrimental to his mission. The man is cunning and tactical, he makes no wasted moves and will patiently wait for his chance to strike.

And my problem with your thinking is that you believe Sylar can effortless sneak about in Narutoverse and acquire a decent enough assortment of abilties to be able to contend with any high tier, or any group of mids. he can't. there are milatary forces, Anbu, and far more tactically briallant people then him in Naru verse. In addition, there is surely a vast amount of entierely random semi-strong ninja roaming about. I.E. Criminals, Orochimaru hideout's, armies, etc.

Anyway, the moment he crosses over and starts trying to actively kill ninja's, not people but ninja's ninja's, he would make someone or something aware of his presence. After this, although it could take a long while, Sylar would eventually be discovered and hunted down (bingo book). Incidently, even if sylar kills say 2 dozen ninja's, the chances are he is going to be killing fodder ninja's, and is unlikely to kill anyone with the better or more versatile jutsu's. Regardless, he isn't gonna gain speed anyway.

Now even if Sylar isn't discovered after killing a few nins, which in of itself is quite silly, he needs too many high end abilties to stand even a ghost of a chance against the highest tiers. Simply going Nuclear is a silly tactic, which gains him no abilties, and would get him quickly discovered. In short, Current Sylar is too slow and can be blitz with ninjutsu, genjutsu, or taijutsu, can be killed by a single direct physical hit by a genin, is to susceptible to genjutsu, henge, and bunshin's, and would adapt badly to various ninjutsu he is seeing for the first time. If that's not enough, any decent genin is likely to detect him and perhaps even his killing intentions long before he strikes. Sylar is going to try hanging back and spying on someone, like he was the heroes of the show, but this time they are going to suddenly disappear before his eyes and stab him in the head.


He had no clue that the Japanese guy had the balls to do what he couldn't do just a few hours ago.

Who cares. The fact is pudgy entirely human level speed Hiro was able to stab him. Hence, if Sylar actually had anything even remotely close to bullet reaction speed he would have effortlessly dodged Hiro's blade even in the last moment it was coming at him. Sylar's reaction speed is human.

Limit_Tester
06-02-2007, 06:28 PM
But he didn't stop it with TK.

He caught it with his hand.

With the help of TK.

Sylar
06-02-2007, 06:30 PM
With the help of TK.

How do you figure?

Limit_Tester
06-02-2007, 06:46 PM
How do you figure?

Because he wasn't cut and he is otherwise a normal human without the help of his TK and other powers. Feel free to go through the series again. You will find Sylar and the rest of the Heroes cast are pretty normal (as in peak-human level) physically (slightly more durable), especially in terms of reaction time and speed. The only person to demonstrate super human strength was of course Nikki/Jessica and that was her power (as well as a nice skill set and nasty personality). The only one to obtain faster than human travel would be Nathan when he was flying (and the people who borrowed his powers). Sylar also has a reaction time advantage over most people because he works at the speed of TK, which is the speed of his mind.

Lord Snow
06-02-2007, 07:18 PM
We had a number of questions about that, actually, so thanks for clearing that up. James Jeffrey goes back a ways with his question. "Mr. Bennet had a gun that was powerful enough to knock Sylar off his feet, but not kill him. Will we see more weapons specifically developed by Primatech?"

Mr. Bennet just has a normal gun and James Jeffrey, you have just forced us to give a little discussion on physics. A typical bullet fired from a gun travels at 400-500 meters per second. Sylar's had a number of bullets fired at him – most of which he telekinetically stopped. Matt. HRG. Suresh. Each has had a different effect. Matt knocked him down. HRG knocked him back (and if you read the Webcomic “Road Kill” you'd see that one or two actually penetrated him). Suresh's bullet stopped in mid-air. The more time Sylar has to concentrate the easier the bullet is to stop, but sometimes the impact can still propel him backwards as he's trying to prevent the bullet from piercing his skin. Have we bored enough people yet? Good.

link:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10433


Anyway this means that Sylar has normal reaction time and his ability to stop bullets depends on if he notices them. This means that someone like Rock lee is fast enough to takeout Sylar before he even realizes what happened.
Remember when Rock Lee unlocks the gates he was so fast that he literally disappeared because Naruto and Co.`s eyes couldn`t register Lee`s movements

Finn Mac Cool
06-03-2007, 02:05 AM
Something people should please keep in mind: while it is debated whether chakra exists in non-Narutoverse characters or not, once Sylar finds out about chakra, one of two things will happen (a) if Sylar already has a chakra system, he'll start learning how to use it, or (b) if Sylar doesn't have a chakra system, he can kill any random person in the Narutoverse to obtain one. Either way, soon after arriving in the Narutoverse, Sylar will have the ability to learn ninja skills like anyone else, which includes training his reflexes to superhuman levels. Sylar will be held back a bit by not having a teacher, but, given how he quickly he became adept using the powers he stole in the Heroes universe, he's likely to be a natural prodigy at learning ninja skills.

mystictrunks
06-03-2007, 03:14 AM
Sylar could just take out an academy student for the basic techniques.

Lord Snow
06-03-2007, 03:48 PM
Sylar could just take out an academy student for the basic techniques.

Sylar`s power only allows to take special abilities that are genetically passed down such as bloodlines. Thus Sylar can`t learn basic skills by killing a academy student, he would have to instead learn them for himself.

atom
06-03-2007, 03:51 PM
Doesn't Sylar have that one ability that lights him make illusions? Isn't he basically like Aizen?

Finn Mac Cool
06-03-2007, 03:58 PM
Doesn't Sylar have that one ability that lights him make illusions? Isn't he basically like Aizen?

Only the Sylar we saw five years in the alternate future had that power. Presumably Sylar acquired a lot of powers over five years in that timeline, but the only differences we know of between him and current Sylar are (1) the illusion power, (2) flight, (3) phasing through objects, and (4) near-instant regeneration and immortality.

atom
06-03-2007, 04:03 PM
Ahh. Nvm then.

Random Nobody
06-03-2007, 04:47 PM
Sylar`s power only allows to take special abilities that are genetically passed down such as bloodlines. Thus Sylar can`t learn basic skills by killing a academy student, he would have to instead learn them for himself.

Read the first post. This fight assumes Sylar can take their abilities by eating their brains.

Limit_Tester
06-03-2007, 05:00 PM
You can't steal speed. And that is why Sylar really isn't getting anywhere, no matter how long he is around. In fact, the longer he is around snatching people, the more chance he will get caught.

Lord Snow
06-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Read the first post. This fight assumes Sylar can take their abilities by eating their brains.

Yes he can take their powers, meaning bloodlines. Sylar can`t steal learnt skills he can only take special abilities because that is how his powers work.

Finn Mac Cool
06-03-2007, 11:44 PM
You can't steal speed. And that is why Sylar really isn't getting anywhere, no matter how long he is around. In fact, the longer he is around snatching people, the more chance he will get caught.

Except consider this: Sylar has the ability to take on the genetic abilities of the people he kills (and, for the purposes of this thread, this doesn't only apply to Heroes universe characters). Narutoverse characters are capable of attaining superhuman speed. Therefore, if Sylar takes the brain of a Narutoverse character, he then has the potential to train himself until his speed increases, just like anyone else in the Narutoverse (though likely far faster, since Sylar's quick mastering of abilities indicates he could very well learn how to control the chakra in his body for enhanced strength/speed very quickly and easily).

Elijah Snow
06-04-2007, 12:30 AM
Accept consider this: Sylar has the ability to take on the genetic abilities of the people he kills (and, for the purposes of this thread, this doesn't only apply to Heroes universe characters). Narutoverse characters are capable of attaining superhuman speed. Therefore, if Sylar takes the brain of a Narutoverse character, he then has the potential to train himself until his speed increases, just like anyone else in the Narutoverse (though likely far faster, since Sylar's quick mastering of abilities indicates he could very well learn how to control the chakra in his body for enhanced strength/speed very quickly and easily).

I totally agree and this is the main reason I believe that Sylar could overcome the Naruto U. He could overtime improve since he would attain a Chakra system and due to his original power to "know how things work" he would improve at a high rate and become a larger and larger threat as he went on.

atom
06-04-2007, 01:31 AM
Except consider this: Sylar has the ability to take on the genetic abilities of the people he kills (and, for the purposes of this thread, this doesn't only apply to Heroes universe characters). Narutoverse characters are capable of attaining superhuman speed. Therefore, if Sylar takes the brain of a Narutoverse character, he then has the potential to train himself until his speed increases, just like anyone else in the Narutoverse (though likely far faster, since Sylar's quick mastering of abilities indicates he could very well learn how to control the chakra in his body for enhanced strength/speed very quickly and easily).
The only thing that is genetic in Naruto is bloodlines. Everything else, killing them wouldn't do anything. Since abilities you learned are hardly genetic. So really. The only abilities Sylar will have is Sharingan and Byukugan.

Finn Mac Cool
06-04-2007, 03:19 AM
The only thing that is genetic in Naruto is bloodlines. Everything else, killing them wouldn't do anything. Since abilities you learned are hardly genetic. So really. The only abilities Sylar will have is Sharingan and Byukugan.

Once again, it's not that Sylar would learn how to become super fast and perform ninjutsu by taking their brains, but taking their brains would give Sylar the capacity to learn, and, if he masters chakra manipulation as easily as he's mastered his other powers, he'll become very powerful very quickly.

atom
06-04-2007, 03:22 AM
Once again, it's not that Sylar would learn how to become super fast and perform ninjutsu by taking their brains, but taking their brains would give Sylar the capacity to learn, and, if he masters chakra manipulation as easily as he's mastered his other powers, he'll become very powerful very quickly.
Well thats quite a presumption, but its logical I guess. Sylar really doesn't need extra abilities, all he needs to do is just train and get some scrolls and get the better moves and kill Itachi for Sharingan and find Hidan for his immortality and he takes this pretty easily <_<