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HK-47
05-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Halo's
Brutes,
Covenant,
Flood,
And
Marines

Vs

Star Wars'
Clone Army,
Empire(I know they are from different times),
Rebels,
and
Sepratists

Two Worlds Collide,
Which Will Survive?

Sylar
05-27-2007, 08:12 AM
The Halos destroy all life in the galaxy without exception....

You do realize that right?

Its a draw for that reason.

Fuujin
05-27-2007, 08:29 AM
If the Halo's weren't used and Star Wars wasn't allowed any Jedi/Sith I think Halo would win.

Blix
05-27-2007, 10:12 AM
Halo ftw XD

Tao
05-27-2007, 11:10 AM
Even though I have seen this thread like 20 times I am gonna go with Halo.

Bresakar
05-27-2007, 11:13 AM
Whoa that a hardly answerable question.
I think the Jedi and Sith together would make up a cool army but if they don't join and they won't, they'll loose.

PS: Sidious using his warp hole would fucking pwn half of the universe but he can't control it so the tech itself is not worth much if not properly used against the Halos

Crimson Dragoon
05-27-2007, 11:28 AM
With wank allowed, Star Wars wins in a curbrape. Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, and Eclipse SSDs FTW. Without wank, SW still wins. The Empire has superior firepower and industrial capacity. They built the Death Star in less than a year! Far less. In fact, I think it only took a few months.

Tao
05-27-2007, 11:36 AM
The elites do have a much better agilty than the SW troopers and the energy shield does provide an extra boost and the Brutes are powerful enough to take out their fair share. The Jackals may hold out for a bit but they might possibly take out a few; the sniper Jackal will take out some. The Grunts are nothing they will be easy for the troopers to take out.

Vehicle to vehicle I would have to give it to SW. Their vehicles are much more advanced than the Covenants.

Weapons to weapons got to go with Halo on this one. Can't really think of an explanation but I feel that Halo has better weapondry.

Crimson Dragoon
05-27-2007, 11:49 AM
Halo has better weaponry? Does the Covenant have anything like the Death Star or a ship that can reduce a planet to molten lava in less than an hour?

Arishem
05-27-2007, 11:53 AM
With wank allowed, Star Wars wins in a curbrape. Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher, and Eclipse SSDs FTW. Without wank, SW still wins. The Empire has superior firepower and industrial capacity. They built the Death Star in less than a year! Far less. In fact, I think it only took a few months.

Uhh, if you're going by SW movie calculations, then you should know that Spacebattles rated Covenant plasma torps in the teratons. Although even capital ships can only fire a few in a full broadside, but that should be more than enough to take out a movie ISD. Their weapons planetside seem to have parity with each other with a slight edge going to the Covenant. The scarab's big beam of death should be able to pop an AT-AT or destroy a whole swathe of AT-ST's. Without the wank, Star Wars falls flat on its face in most battles with its huge advantage coming in the form of Hyperdrive. Halo FTL isn't slow though.

TWF
05-27-2007, 12:29 PM
Uhh, if you're going by SW movie calculations, then you should know that Spacebattles rated Covenant plasma torps in the teratons. Although even capital ships can only fire a few in a full broadside, but that should be more than enough to take out a movie ISD. Their weapons planetside seem to have parity with each other with a slight edge going to the Covenant. The scarab's big beam of death should be able to pop an AT-AT or destroy a whole swathe of AT-ST's. Without the wank, Star Wars falls flat on its face in most battles with its huge advantage coming in the form of Hyperdrive. Halo FTL isn't slow though.

Your an idiot. The SW EU explicitly stated that old mark I ISD's can take out a planet and reduce it to glass by itself. It takes an armada of Covenant warships to glass Reach. One ISD = Covenant Armada.



Halo gets curbstomped without the actual Halo's. Oh yeah that'd still only make it a draw seeing how SW completely outnumbers them by a factor of 1 to 200,000,000. And that their technology makes the Forerunners look like shit.

Hype
05-27-2007, 12:33 PM
Halo has better weaponry? Does the Covenant have anything like the Death Star or a ship that can reduce a planet to molten lava in less than an hour?

If they are in control of a Halo then yes

Halo fires oops there goes a galaxy

TWF
05-27-2007, 12:38 PM
If they are in control of a Halo then yes

Halo fires oops there goes a galaxy

Except not as only the Monitors know how to do that, and that just make it a stalemate. Oh wait, not for the Sun Crusher or Sith Super Weapons, so SW universe still wins.

In every category Star Wars beats out Halo.

Hype
05-27-2007, 12:41 PM
Except not as only the Monitors know how to do that, and that just make it a stalemate. Oh wait, not for the Sun Crusher or Sith Super Weapons, so SW universe still wins.

In every category Star Wars beats out Halo.

It almost fired in Halo 2

TWF
05-27-2007, 12:43 PM
It almost fired in Halo 2

Only with the guidance from 05's Monitor and from Cortana's knowledge of the previous Halo and being interfaced with Guilty Spark and the Forerunner database....

You have to understand, there are still things in Star Wars that will survive the Halo. And it's only when all seven of them act in coordination that it's powerful.

Do you know what Centerpoint Station can do that Halo while its powering up? Collapse the Halo in on itself with its gravity generators or throw it into a sun.

Arishem
05-27-2007, 01:17 PM
There's no need to be hostile. Movie showings only put turbolasers at megaton levels. Including the books they're bumped up to gigaton level. Even the warsies on spacebattles acknowledge that EU ISD's and Covenant ships have a pretty close parity in firepower. The reason that SW wins in EU is because of their huge advantage in FTL, which is still present in the movies combined with the odd superweapon. Industrial capacity is up in the air. The covenant considered the loss of a covenant fleet consisting of 500 ships and a 30km battle station negligibe.

However, this doesn't change the fact that G-canon showings are nowhere near as impressive as EU. C-canon Star Wars would defeat the Covenant, but it wouldn't be a total curbstomp like a match up against ST or B5. Not to mention, Covenant ships freqeuntly "glass" planets regardless of the class of ships they're using to assault it. There's no question of that version prevailing over the Halo universe. The movie universe is another thing entirely. You can bring this up with Lucas since he himself stated that he views them as two different universes.

TWF
05-27-2007, 01:22 PM
There's no need to be hostile. Movie showings only put turbolasers at megaton levels. Including the books they're bumped up to gigaton level. Even the warsies on spacebattles acknowledge that EU ISD's and Covenant ships have a pretty close parity in firepower. The reason that SW wins in EU is because of their huge advantage in FTL, which is still present in the movies combined with the odd superweapon. Industrial capacity is up in the air. The covenant considered the loss of a covenant fleet consisting of 500 ships and a 30km battle station negligibe.

Because they have humanity in its own backyard while possessing 1 to 1000 advantage in numbers. This a vastly different corresponding between SW and the entire Haloverse. Secondly, I don't see how the Covenant can class their plasma cannons in the gigatons at all, it took an armada several times to glass a planet.

And ISD can do that by itself. G-Canon still corresponds that, if not directly.

This doesn't change the fact that G-canon showings are nowhere near as impressive as EU. C-canon Star Wars would defeat the Covenant, but it wouldn't be a curbstomp like a match up against ST or B5. Not to mention, Covenant ships freqeuntly "glass" planets regardless of the class of ships they're using to assault it.

We've never seen a planet become BDZ in the movies.

In any case, warship class does not matter, they require dozens upon dozens of warships at minimum in the novels to glass human planets. Novel > Game Mechanics for Halo. SW rapestomps Halo.

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 01:33 PM
What in the Star Wars universe is surviving Halo?

TWF
05-27-2007, 01:38 PM
What in the Star Wars universe is surviving Halo?

The Sun Crusher for one, it detonates stars by launching a severely powerful torpedo into, destroying the local star system. And its armor cannot be destroyed. It took a hit from a Death Star's main turbolaser and shrugged off the hit.

It has also smash through Star Destroyers like a cannon with just its speed. The super hydrated quantanium armor cannot be destroyed by anything. The Halo will have no effect on it.

Tao
05-27-2007, 01:41 PM
Nothing except robots and non-living things since Halo only destroys all living things to kill/starve the Flood.

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 01:43 PM
The Halo is supposed to kill all life right? Then that means every living thing in the Star Wars universe would be destroyed resulting in only robots/non living things which can't be used without a living being (most of the time).

Tao
05-27-2007, 01:45 PM
So one conclusion is a draw between both forces.

Arishem
05-27-2007, 01:50 PM
It did not take a covenant armada several times to glass a planet. Furthermore, the amount of ships present wasn't "dozens upon dozens."
Take a look for yourself. This is taken from the very first scene in The Fall of Reach.

"Three dozen Covenant ships - big ones, destroyers and cruisers - winked into view in the system. They were sleek, looking more like sharks than starcraft. Their lateral lines brightened with plasma - then discharged and rained fire down upon Jericho VII."
"The Chief watched for an hour and didn't move a muscle."
"The planet's lakes, rivers, and oceans vaporized.
"Fields and forests were glassy smooth and glowing red-hot in patches."
"Where there had once been a paradise, only hell remained."

In order to boil away all of the planet's water, you would need to be putting out teratons of energy. The KT event that wiped out the dinosaurs was a 100teraton event and it didn't even manage that. Each of those ships was putting out an insane amount of power during that sixty minutes. There also were no battleships or super carriers present during the bombardment.

G-canon ship showings are not conducive to a BDZ. You'd be orbiting a world for a huge amount of time with only megaton rated weaponry. It would probably take a huge fleet to do such an act within just a day. All things considered, Imperial Star Destroyers in the movies are far weaker than their EU novel counterparts.

TWF
05-27-2007, 02:20 PM
The Halo is supposed to kill all life right? Then that means every living thing in the Star Wars universe would be destroyed resulting in only robots/non living things which can't be used without a living being (most of the time).

So because there is no Force in Halo, Luke can't use it against the Haloverse? That's a load of shit. The Sun Crusher in practically immortal to ANYTHING.

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 02:28 PM
So because there is no Force in Halo, Luke can't use it against the Haloverse? That's a load of shit. The Sun Crusher in practically immortal to ANYTHING.

If the suncrusher is a non living object then it's unaffected if not then it dies like any other living thing. As for the "force" thing, it's pointless to say that it can provide some sort of resistence against Halo since it'll only be speculation.

TWF
05-27-2007, 02:30 PM
If the suncrusher is a non living object then it's unaffected if not then it dies like any other living thing. As for the "force" thing, it's pointless to say that it can provide some sort of resistence against Halo since it'll only be speculation.

The Sun Crusher is piloted by living beings who will not be effected by the Halo's. A small thermo-nuclear explosion from the PoA destroyed it. And they have to act in conjunction with teh other Halo's to destroy the galaxy.

You are simply making retarded inferences on what the Halo can do, when neither its abilties have been shown and individually its range its weak. And you don't know what the Halo does to kill the lifeforms.

SW wins.

~Shin~
05-27-2007, 02:33 PM
The Sun Crusher is piloted by living beings who will not be effected by the Halo's. A small thermo-nuclear explosion from the PoA destroyed it. And they have to act in conjunction with teh other Halo's to destroy the galaxy.

You are simply making retarded inferences on what the Halo can do, when neither its abilties have been shown and individually its range its weak. And you don't know what the Halo does to kill the lifeforms.

SW wins.

So you're only argument is that I'm making "inferences" on its ability? It's ability is pretty simple as it wipes out all life. Stop analyzing it to its fine details. And who said it's going to attack individually?

TWF
05-27-2007, 02:43 PM
So you're only argument is that I'm making "inferences" on its ability? It's ability is pretty simple as it wipes out all life. Stop analyzing it to its fine details. And who said it's going to attack individually?

Not really. And again, the Halos only work together in a group of seven charging stations. There are plenty of super weapons besides the Sun Crusher and the Death Stars that will destroy the Halos before they can use it.

And again, SW possess far greater technology and numbers then the Haloverse. The Jedi and Sith curbstomp this as well. Face it, its a rapestomp. The Sun Crusher can just blow up a star and that will destroy the Halo, one by one.

masamune1
05-27-2007, 03:34 PM
The Halo is supposed to kill all life right? Then that means every living thing in the Star Wars universe would be destroyed resulting in only robots/non living things which can't be used without a living being (most of the time).

Robots in Star Wars- that is, droids- can survive independantly of their living masters. They are actually intelligent and apparently sentient (despite what Obi-Wan said in Attack of the clones), and would survive a Halo.

Also, I'm not sure if one Halo can cover an entire Galaxy, which is what Star Wars has. And the Covenant, who control the Halo's, do not see them as weapons, and will not use tham as such. I doubt anyone in halo is in hurry to die, either.

Star Wars will win.

TWF
05-27-2007, 04:23 PM
25,000 Light Years is a joke in the SW EU size. That'd be a single star system. They may wipe out a dozen or so planets, and not too mention colony worlds and stations but that is a speck of sand to the size of the population and volume of the SW universe.

Ion
05-27-2007, 04:31 PM
The Sun Crusher is piloted by living beings who will not be effected by the Halo's. A small thermo-nuclear explosion from the PoA destroyed it. And they have to act in conjunction with teh other Halo's to destroy the galaxy.

You are simply making retarded inferences on what the Halo can do, when neither its abilties have been shown and individually its range its weak. And you don't know what the Halo does to kill the lifeforms.

SW wins.The Halos destroy all life. Plain and simple.

It only makes sense that whatever energy wave causes that result is able to pass through organic and inorganic objects alike, destroying only the organic.

If it was a simple "BOOOM!" weapon(as you seem to be assuming), Humans, the Covenant, the Flood, none of them would have existed as the Halo universe is shown, since whatever planets they spawned and lived on would have been destroyed as well.

TWF
05-27-2007, 04:38 PM
The Halos destroy all life. Plain and simple.

It only makes sense that whatever energy wave causes that result is able to pass through organic and inorganic objects alike, destroying only the organic.

If it was a simple "BOOOM!" weapon(as you seem to be assuming), Humans, the Covenant, the Flood, none of them would have existed as the Halo universe is shown, since whatever planets they spawned and lived on would have been destroyed as well.

Nothing can penetrate the Sun Crusher's armor. And secondly, as I stated, SW technology is far above Halo's. The Centerpoint Station will collapse them inward with gravity fields, Sun Crusher will just fly around exploding stars that will destroy them.

gg Halo.

Ion
05-27-2007, 04:47 PM
How are you so certain?

I'm not just going to take your word for it. I want to see specific evidence suggesting that the Sun Crusher would be able to handle energy waves that pass through inorganic matter instead of impacting it.

TWF
05-27-2007, 04:59 PM
How are you so certain?

I'm not just going to take your word for it. I want to see specific evidence suggesting that the Sun Crusher would be able to handle energy waves that pass through inorganic matter instead of impacting it.

Because the Sun Crusher's feats include twice being sent into a sun. Several times the pilot of the Sun Crusher destroyed solar systems, which release hundreds of thousands of waves of radiation and cosmic energies, from multiple stars exploding. And even after it was sent into a black hole, all that did was keep it from others from abusing its power.

The head scientist in the Champions of the Force Trilogy of books, used several reinforced layers of molecular armor otherwise known as Quantum-Crystalline armor as closely as physics allowed, according to Qwi Xux. That way the atoms were literally bounded together so that the ship was literally invincible against anything, including the radiation emitted from stars that went supernova caused by the Sun Crusher.

It also has survived the extreme pressures exerted from the core of the gas giant planet, Yavin, itself. The ship, Haterade, is designed to survive..ANYTHING.

Go look it up.

Secondly.

How can you be so sure that the World Destroyers, Star Destroyers, SSDs, ESDS, and other major warships won't survive the Halo blast? Is there proof of the Halo killing all major lifeforms will technology more advanced then the Forerunners?

No.

The only references we have from the Halo Bible is that the Forerunners eliminated themselves and all forms of previous life because the Forerunners were all on each of the Halo's.

And they can only work to their fullest if all seven fire in conjunction. And the total range is 25,000 light years. Which is a ripple in the pond to the size of the Warsie universe.

TWF
05-27-2007, 05:08 PM
Tell me Haterade, how are the Halo Installations going to survive against the Sun Crusher? Installation 04 was destroyed by a small thermo-nuclear explosion generated by a warship (Pillar of Autumn) that was less then two kilometers in size.

The yield of the torpedos that kill stars for the Sun Crusher are in the order of millions time more powerful than that. And here is an excerpt from the Star Wars Databank on the Sun Crusher's weaponary.

The Sun Crusher's primary weapon was a payload of 11 energy resonance torpedoes. Each torpedo resembled an oval-shaped plasma discharge and was activated when it passed through the Sun Crusher's resonance torpedo launcher. The resonance torpedo then traveled to the system's sun or stars at near-lightspeed velocity.


Upon impact, the torpedo burrowed into the star's core, releasing dense packets of energy that rendered the star's core unstable. Then initiating a chain-reaction supernova that forced even low-mass stars to go supernova.

The star would be ripped apart in the explosion, sending waves of energy and radiation out across the system that destroyed every planet and life in its path. The Sun Crusher could obliterate an entire system in mere hours. Once launched into the star, it was impossible to stop the impending supernova.

Ion
05-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Because the Sun Crusher's feats include twice being sent into a sun. Several times the pilot of the Sun Crusher destroyed solar systems, which release hundreds of thousands of waves of radiation and cosmic energies, from multiple stars exploding. And even after it was sent into a black hole, all that did was keep it from others from abusing its power.

The head scientist in the Champions of the Force Trilogy of books, used several reinforced layers of molecular armor otherwise known as Quantum-Crystalline armor as closely as physics allowed, according to Qwi Xux. That way the atoms were literally bounded together so that the ship was literally invincible against anything, including the radiation emitted from stars that went supernova caused by the Sun Crusher.

It also has survived the extreme pressures exerted from the core of the gas giant planet, Yavin, itself. The ship, Haterade, is designed to survive..ANYTHING.This is what I mean. I don't care if the ship survives, just the crew.

Are you saying that after all of that was done to it, the crew was still intact?
Go look it up.The burden of proof is on you, not me.

Secondly.

How can you be so sure that the World Destroyers, Star Destroyers, SSDs, ESDS, and other major warships won't survive the Halo blast? Is there proof of the Halo killing all major lifeforms will technology more advanced then the Forerunners?

No.

The only references we have from the Halo Bible is that the Forerunners eliminated themselves and all forms of previous life because the Forerunners were all on each of the Halo's.

And they can only work to their fullest if all seven fire in conjunction. And the total range is 25,000 light years. Which is a ripple in the pond to the size of the Warsie universe.I never said any of this.

I really only rebutting your claim about the Sun Crusher, since you had yet to give sufficient evidence suggesting that anyone should believe that the crew of the Sun Crusher would be able to survive.

I don't know enough of either universe to make claims of who would win.

TWF
05-27-2007, 05:39 PM
This is what I mean. I don't care if the ship survives, just the crew.

It will protect the crew, what's the point of armoring the starship if their mission is to blow up stars, then die from radiation sickness or exposure?

Are you saying that after all of that was done to it, the crew was still intact?

Yes he was.





I really only rebutting your claim about the Sun Crusher, since you had yet to give sufficient evidence suggesting that anyone should believe that the crew of the Sun Crusher would be able to survive.

The author at the end of the Champions of the Force, even stated that a black hole was not even able to destroy or even damage the Sun Crusher. Just able to capture it.

If it and the crew of the Sun Crusher can survive multiple stars going supernova, with all the radiation from the molecular armor which resists the energy on an atomic level, I don't see the Halo's killing the crew.

I don't know enough of either universe to make claims of who would win.

Then why are you attempting to rebuke me on something you have little to no knowledge on?

Ion
05-27-2007, 05:44 PM
It will protect the crew, what's the point of armoring the starship if their mission is to blow up stars, then die from radiation sickness or exposure?Noted.

The author at the end of the Champions of the Force, even stated that a black hole was not even able to destroy or even damage the Sun Crusher. Just able to capture it.

If it and the crew of the Sun Crusher can survive multiple stars going supernova, with all the radiation from the molecular armor which resists the energy on an atomic level, I don't see it killing the crew.Noted.

Then why are you attempting to rebuke me on something you little to no knowledge on?To help me understand why you think the Sun Crusher would be able to withstand it.

I'm sure anyone else coming into this thread would also like to know the reasons why as well, instead of just taking your word for it.

Fuujin
05-27-2007, 06:00 PM
Sun crushers have to have a weak point though, how could the crew get in or out unless there was a door? And the Halo death beam/ray/whatever it is could get through these tiny gaps. That's the flaw in the writing of the sun crushers, they wouldn't be able to survive a black hole since even the slightest weakness along the seam of the doorway would be exploited and the crew sucked out in space. It doesn't work in scientific principle but from a fictional perspective SW would win this one.

TWF
05-27-2007, 06:04 PM
Sun crushers have to have a weak point though, how could the crew get in or out unless there was a door? And the Halo death beam/ray/whatever it is could get through these tiny gaps. That's the flaw in the writing of the sun crushers, they wouldn't be able to survive a black hole since even the slightest weakness along the seam of the doorway would be exploited and the crew sucked out in space. It doesn't work in scientific principle but from a fictional perspective SW would win this one.

The Sun Crusher has taken a blast from a Death Star with no visible effect other then being altered off its course. The Death Star beam is not as powerful as the gravitional pull of a Black Hole, which also did nothing to the Sun Crusher.

Crimson Dragoon
05-27-2007, 06:14 PM
The Sun Crusher has taken a blast from a Death Star with no visible effect other then being altered off its course. The Death Star beam is not as powerful as the gravitional pull of a Black Hole, which also did nothing to the Sun Crusher.

To be fair, it wasn't a full power DS blast. Still, the Suncrusher is wanktastically uber and I doubt there is anything like it in the Haloverse.

Zack_Strife
05-27-2007, 06:49 PM
ISD's glass planets? OK.
How long does it take for a single ISD to glass the entire surface area of a planet and boil away all the water? Can a single ship actually glass an entire planet like that in under an hour?
Covenant Plasma literally boils away metres of Titanium A armour like nothing. Of course it's impossible to quantify how strong that armour is with it being a fictional metal, however we can assume it's plenty fucking strong.
The size of their fleet is also being under estimated. That can lose literally hundreds of ships and it isn't seen as any sort of significant loss.
A Covenant crusier can match and destroy an ISD, both ships are powerful but it's unfair to suggest that the Covenant would be "rapestomped" considering the power of their weaponry and sheilds. So far no Covenant ship has ever had it's shields knocked out by single ship fire, it takes nothing less than a heavy MAC round or nuclear missile to drop the sheild and even at that their ships are still extremely resilient.
As for super weapons, I'm not going down that road. It's stupid to debate Sun Crusher vs Halos because one is invincible and one destroys all organic life. There's no way to determine with any truth which would survive.

TWF
05-27-2007, 06:54 PM
ISD's glass planets? OK.
How long does it take for a single ISD to glass the entire surface area of a planet and boil away all the water? Can a single ship actually glass an entire planet like that in under an hour?
Covenant Plasma literally boils away metres of Titanium A armour like nothing. Of course it's impossible to quantify how strong that armour is with it being a fictional metal, however we can assume it's plenty fucking strong.
The size of their fleet is also being under estimated. That can lose literally hundreds of ships and it isn't seen as any sort of significant loss.
A Covenant crusier can match and destroy an ISD, both ships are powerful but it's unfair to suggest that the Covenant would be "rapestomped" considering the power of their weaponry and sheilds. So far no Covenant ship has ever had it's shields knocked out by single ship fire, it takes nothing less than a heavy MAC round or nuclear missile to drop the sheild and even at that their ships are still extremely resilient.
As for super weapons, I'm not going down that road. It's stupid to debate Sun Crusher vs Halos because one is invincible and one destroys all organic life. There's no way to determine with any truth which would survive.

tl;dr

Are you dense or what? UNSC is completely inferior to the Covenant in the Haloverse in terms of technology. Their still using ballistic weaponary against shielded warships.

And ISD does uses turbolasers that have glassed planets to nothing. One Star Destroyer was stated to have greater firepower then the fleet that glassed an outer rim world under an Imperial Sector Moff.

The Covenant are completely technologically inferior to the Empire and the Old Republic. It took thirty six warships from the Covenant armada several weeks to glass Reach.

It took one ISD to do the same in hours. You fail.

Arishem
05-27-2007, 10:46 PM
That is a blatant exageration on your part. It took three dozen non-capital ships one hour to turn the planet into a scene from hell. All of the water, the atmosphere, the landscape, and organisms of Reach were reduced to a distant memory in that short amount of time. They took their time orbiting the planet afterwards because they were looking for Forerunner artifacts. No religious zealot is going to glass a planet knowing that they might cause an affront to their gods.

I guarantee you that a Covenant battle station, which is really a giant ship, would be able to go toe to toe with any Star Dreadnought short of an Eclipse or Sovereign. It's a roughly spherical ship that is 30km wide and has more plasma emitters than you can wave a stick at. The monstrous thing would probably BDZ a planet in one volley. Seeing how the Unyielding Hierophant was considered expendable, the Covenant probably has a bunch of them.

TWF
05-27-2007, 10:53 PM
That is a blatant exageration on your part. It took three dozen non-capital ships one hour to turn the planet into a scene from hell. All of the water, the atmosphere, the landscape, and organisms of Reach were reduced to a distant memory in that short amount of time. They took their time orbiting the planet afterwards because they were looking for Forerunner artifacts. No religious zealot is going to glass a planet knowing that they might cause an affront to their gods.

I guarantee you that a Covenant battle station, which is really a giant ship, would be able to go toe to toe with any Star Dreadnought short of an Eclipse or Sovereign. It's a roughly spherical ship that is 30km wide and has more plasma emitters than you can wave a stick at. The monstrous thing would probably BDZ a planet in one volley. Seeing how the Unyielding Hierophant was considered expendable, the Covenant probably has a bunch of them.

I have Fall of Reach, and First Strike sitting infront of me. And I am not exaggerting. And even if Covenant warships were a match for Imperial warships, they do not have the numbers to match them.

Arishem
05-27-2007, 10:53 PM
I agree with you there. :( The stupid but awesome Death Star put their industry on another level. I've seen the threads on how many ISD's they could've made instead.

Kai
05-27-2007, 10:59 PM
The Halos destroy all life in the galaxy without exception....

You do realize that right?

Its a draw for that reason.

They can do that, yet it's been stated that the Flood will not be completely exterminated.

It's the only known way to cut off their food supply.

Arishem
05-27-2007, 11:12 PM
This might become more even once more Forerunner stuff is revealed. This is a spoiler for Ghosts of Onyx. They truly have some wank tech that makes the Halos look shitty.Onyx is actually a forerunner shield world. It's composed of billions of interlocking and unique sentinels. This construct is powered by a core made of a dyson sphere compressed by an ultra-powerful slipstream field. In the book, a couple dozen interlocked sentinels one shotted and vaporized a covenant cruiser. That's an insane amount of power, considering just how many sentinels Onyx is made up of. All of them firing together might put them on par with the Death Star. I just had to throw that teaser out there. :P

Oh yeah, the humans now have a nova bomb that shattered a medium sized moon and ravaged an earth like world. The great thing is that it was between both stellar bodies when it popped. Another insane example of wank technology brought to you by Haloverse.

TWF
05-28-2007, 12:45 AM
Galaxy Gun = sniping planets away. FYI it's impossible to destroy the torpedos. They travel at lightspeed. Nothing the Halo's can do about that.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 12:58 AM
why are we on the subject of Halo extinguishing all life?

the OP says nothing on using the Halo's
so drop the argument.

anyways, based on the OP, unless Star Wars gets to throw in Jedi in the mix, they'll most likely lose. Brutes are like Wookies on crack, and the Covenant and Flood have what it takes to win in a ground battle against Star Wars troops. Marines...lolz. They get slaughtered though.

Space battle is a different story. ISD's and Mon Cal cruisers are like Covenant and USD ships combined. They have proton torpedo's to shove up your ass, and lasers that can glass planets just like the Covenant can. Star Wars would win a space battle.

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:01 AM
why are we on the subject of Halo extinguishing all life?

the OP says nothing on using the Halo's
so drop the argument.

anyways, based on the OP, unless Star Wars gets to throw in Jedi in the mix, they'll most likely lose. Brutes are like Wookies on crack, and the Covenant and Flood have what it takes to win in a ground battle against Star Wars troops. Marines...lolz. They get slaughtered though.

Space battle is a different story. ISD's and Mon Cal cruisers are like Covenant and USD ships combined. They have proton torpedo's to shove up your ass, and lasers that can glass planets just like the Covenant can. Star Wars would win a space battle.

Do you realize the SW universe is composed of millions of races? Yuuzhan Vong, Wookies > Brutes, Elites, Spartans. Arc Troopers, Mandalorians will rape ODSTs and Marines and the Mandalorians defientely will out fight the Spartans, even if they don't have the same amount of strength or speed.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:10 AM
yes, but the OP says nothing on Yuuzhong Vong or Mandalorians :amuse

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:12 AM
Doesn't matter as they are included in the SW universe.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:13 AM
but this isnt SW Universe vs Halo Universe :oh

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:14 AM
The Vong are a part of the Star War's universe. Are they Star Trek now or something?

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:17 AM
uh i think you misunderstood me

the OP doesnt specify SW Verse vs Halo Verse

therefore, Yuuzhong Vong and Mandalorians are not a factor in this fight.

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:19 AM
Yet the Haloverse gets Halo? That's bullshit.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:25 AM
i didnt say Haloverse gets Halo...

i have no idea why that argument was brought up in the first place. The OP says nothing at all about using Halo.

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:26 AM
Maybe because the whole premise that the OP set up is too vague for most normal posters to take understanding in?

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:45 AM
probably so

HK-47
05-28-2007, 01:45 AM
but this isnt SW Universe vs Halo Universe :oh

Actually that is kinda what I had intended....

TWF
05-28-2007, 01:48 AM
Actually that is kinda what I had intended....

Exactly. Galaxy Gun snipes Halos and the rest of the Covenant/UNSC to nothing. GG Halo.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 01:54 AM
Actually that is kinda what I had intended....

ah

well then, SW Verse wins in a curbstomp.
they simply have way too many numbers. Covenant cant do shit against Yuuzhong Vong, UNSC cant do shit against Empire/New Republic, Halo's cant do shit to half of the superweapons in Star Wars

add in the factor of Jedi and Sith, and Haloverse is officially fucked.

TWF
05-28-2007, 02:02 AM
ah

well then, SW Verse wins in a curbstomp.
they simply have way too many numbers. Covenant cant do shit against Yuuzhong Vong, UNSC cant do shit against Empire/New Republic, Halo's cant do shit to half of the superweapons in Star Wars

add in the factor of Jedi and Sith, and Haloverse is officially fucked.

ARC Troopers are more or less equal to the Spartans and Elites.

Soul Vibe
05-28-2007, 02:06 AM
eh i dunno about that, ARC Troopers are Prime Human capable, while Spartans are Super-Human capable.

TWF
05-28-2007, 02:08 AM
eh i dunno about that, ARC Troopers are Prime Human capable, while Spartans are Super-Human capable.

Jango Fett > Master Chief. The Arc Troopers in Clone Wars were blowing up tanks with blaster pistols.

HK-47
05-28-2007, 03:11 AM
I think The Mandeloreans would be enough of a rapestomp

TWF
05-28-2007, 03:19 AM
The sheer numbers, technology, military might (army and navy), super weapons and factions that Haloverse faces is completely mind numbingly staggering.

It's not just a curbstomp, its a cosmic level assfucking, Cronos. I love Halo man, but this is just mean. :(

HK-47
05-28-2007, 03:27 AM
Dude,the Mandeloreans would rapestomp the covenant and marines in themselves,I like Halo,but they're proper fucked.

The Space Cowboy
05-28-2007, 07:36 AM
The Haloverse looses badly. Very badly.