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Midnighter takes on all the non Lugia characters one by one.
He gets rested in between each fight and replenishes his ammo.
Who takes this.
Midnighter has access to only his standard weapons.
He won't get past Luffy.
Non Lugias.
Midnighter will fight everyone but the Devil Fruit users.
In that case, he won't get past Zolo.
Sylar
05-09-2007, 10:36 PM
Luffy isn't a Logia....
Also how is it One Piece characters are all banned from the OB tournament but a guy you claim can take the One Piece verse isn't?
Luffy isn't a Logia....
Also how is it One Piece characters are all banned from the OB tournament but a guy you claim can take the One Piece verse isn't?
Has to do with Midnighter ability and not its power.
The crazy homothug can calculate billions of ways of defeating you in a sec. High tier combat skills.
He strategic mind makes post Shikamaru look like infinite.
Physically, he is no greater then Spiderman or Death stroke (possibly weaker).
Suzumebachi
05-09-2007, 11:17 PM
The crazy homothug can calculate billions of ways of defeating you in a sec. High tier combat skills.
With his speed and power, there won't be a billion ways for him to defeat anyone.
Has to do with Midnighter ability and not its power.
The crazy homothug can calculate billions of ways of defeating you in a sec. High tier combat skills.
He strategic mind makes post Shikamaru look like infinite.
Physically, he is no greater then Spiderman or Death stroke (possibly weaker).
Whats the point of calculating ways to beat your opponent if you do not have the means or resources to do it. I could think of 10 ways right now to end the Iraq war, could I do it though? Nope.
Think of it this way. I am not trying to debate Midnighter can beat everyone in OP.
But more along the lines of who can and cant beat Midnighter restricted to the non logia users of the OP verse.
Suzumebachi
05-09-2007, 11:28 PM
But more along the lines of who can and cant beat Midnighter restricted to the non logia users of the OP verse.
Almost everybody could beat him.
Almost everybody could beat him.
Then make your case and point out it.
State Midnighters Limitations, and how X character is many times stronger, faster, durable etc..
Suzumebachi
05-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Then make your case and point out it.
State Midnighters Limitations, and how X character is many times stronger, faster, durable etc..
Not sure who you mean. Should I just list everyone that could beat him?
Not sure who you mean. Should I just list everyone that could beat him?
Make a list from weakest to strongest.
And have Midnighter run your personal gauntlet. (to see how far he gets).
And please explain why he is overwhelmed (defeated).
Suzumebachi
05-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Lucci
Kaku
Jabura
Blueno
Califia
Fukuro
Kumadori
Garp
Saul
Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Dorry
Broggy
Mr. 1
Mr. 2
Alvida
T-Bone
Oimo
Kaashi
Wiper
Enel's priests
The Groggy Monsters
Nico Robin
Kuro
Arlong
Hina the Cage
And it goes on..
And please explain why he is overwhelmed (defeated).
He's not strong enough to kill these guys. Or even fight with them. There is nothing he can do to them.
Lucci
Kaku
Jabura
Blueno
Califia
Fukuro
Kumadori
Garp
Saul
Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Dorry
Broggy
Mr. 1
Mr. 2
Alvida
T-Bone
Oimo
Kaashi
Wiper
Enel's priests
The Groggy Monsters
Nico Robin
Kuro
Arlong
Hina the Cage
And it goes on..
He's not strong enough to kill these guys. Or even fight with them. There is nothing he can do to them.
I see a few Logia users. I think I made myself clear…well Ill try once more.
NO one who has consumed a Devil fruit and gain devil fruit abilities are allowed to fight.
I think he can take on Kuro or Arlong.
Wow. Just to list some people here that would destroy this Midnighter guy.
Zolo
Kaku (Pre Devil Fruit)
Califa (Pre Devil Fruit)
Blackbeard (Pre Devil Fruit)
Whitebeard
Garp
Sanji
Saul
Ussop
Nami
Franky
etc.
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 12:24 AM
Not everyone who ate devil friuts are Logias. Dumbass.
Fukuro
Kumadori
Garp
Saul
Zoro
Sanji
Dorry
Broggy
T-Bone
Franky
Oimo
Kaashi
Wiper
Enel's priests
The Groggy Monsters
Kuro
Arlong
Like the devil fruits matter at all. Half these guys have powers Devil Fruit users would kill for.
Comic Book Guy
05-10-2007, 12:32 AM
This is why I need to track down and read the Authority.
Not everyone who ate devil friuts are Logias. Dumbass.
You get the idea. No Logia or devil fruit users. I could not be any clear.
Fukuro
Kumadori
Garp
Saul
Zoro
Sanji
Dorry
Broggy
T-Bone
Franky
Oimo
Kaashi
Wiper
Enel's priests
The Groggy Monsters
Kuro
Arlong
Like the devil fruits matter at all. Half these guys have powers Devil Fruit users would kill for.
Just concentrate on he debate.
Like I mentioned earlier. I see no reason why Midnighter could not take on Arlong or Kuro.
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 12:39 AM
Like I mentioned earlier. I see no reason why Midnighter could not take on Arlong or Kuro.
What exactly is he going to do to them?
Think of a billion plans at them?
What exactly is he going to do to them?
Think of a billion plans at them?
Shows how much you know.
I would think he would be fast and strong enough to deal with them.
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 12:58 AM
I would think he would be fast and strong enough to deal with them.
Well, thats what you think. And you don't do that very well.
Well, thats what you think. And you don't do that very well.
Oh.. does that make your pussy quiver or do you get a hard on?
Never mind, you are confusing as is.
From what I have read. Midnighter is fast and strong enough to deal with likes such as Kuro or Arlong.
What evidence do you bring forth, states otherwise?
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 01:07 AM
And from what I've read, Midnighter is too weak to put a scratch on Arlong.
Could Midnighter KO a giant monster with one punch?
And from what I've read, Midnighter is too weak to put a scratch on Arlong.
Could Midnighter KO a giant monster with one punch?
And Arlong has?T___T
Midnighter carries a nifty sword and enough strength to slice off head ^__^
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 01:14 AM
What I was getting at with the giant monster punches is that Arlong shakes off a barage of punches from a guy who can KO a giant monster with one punch.
And Arlong is just as strong. The dude can tear a house up from its foundation and toss it.
Midnighter carries a nifty sword and enough strength to slice off head ^__^
Arlong stops it with his nose.
Arlong stated that if Zoro were at full strength, he might have been able to make a bruise on his nose.
What I was getting at with the giant monster punches is that Arlong shakes off a barage of punches from a guy who can KO a giant monster with one punch.
And Arlong is just as strong. The dude can tear a house up from its foundation and toss it.
Arlong stops it with his nose.
Arlong stated that if Zoro were at full strength, he might have been able to make a bruise on his nose.
Oh I see, comparison to some one who has hit big, ugly monsters.
Midnighter has dealt with Apollo. Argurbly stronger then Luffy or Arlong.
Did he beat him with strength, or threw tactics? If its the latter, then your point is moot.
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 01:22 AM
Oh I see, comparison to some one who has hit big, ugly monsters.
No, he takes punches from guys who hit big ugly monsters and treats them like jokes.
Arlong himself is strong enough to lift buildings.
Did he beat him with strength, or threw tactics? If its the latter, then your point is moot.
He used his abilities.
You avoided the question. I'll just assume his "billions of plans a second" ability. So yeah, Arlong rapes this guy. Even harder if their near water.
No, he takes punches from guys who hit big ugly monsters and treats them like jokes.
Arlong himself is strong enough to lift buildings.
In front of Apollo, Luffy is a joke.
Here is a big guy…and he is down.
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58vb.jpg
And Midnighter is dealing with some one who can physically move faster then machine gun fire and jump kick a tank’s artillery.
You avoided the question. I'll just assume his "billions of plans a second" ability. So yeah, Arlong rapes this guy. Even harder if their near water.
I mentioned a single ability Midnighter has. You can scout the internet or pick up a comic book to look up farther information.
Your point is? He would limited to information from his own universe. So its moot in this fight. Arlong rapes.
Suzumebachi
05-10-2007, 01:38 AM
In front of Apollo, Luffy is a joke.
Here is a big guy…and he is down.
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58vb.jpg
And Midnighter is dealing with some one who can physically move faster then machine gun fire and jump kick a tank’s artillery.
Luffy a joke, from that feat alone? LOL
And here Midnighter is dealing with someone who can flip buildings, can launch himself like a torpedo, and can catch cannonballs in his teeth and breaks them.
Your point is? He would limited to information from his own universe. So its moot in this fight. Arlong rapes.
As to Arlong is limited to his own.
And in character, Arlong seems to hold back in front of humans because he regardes them as week. In comparison to Midnighter he goes for the kill with out remorse, or negligence.
In front of Apollo, Luffy is a joke.
Here is a big guy…and he is down.
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58vb.jpg
And Midnighter is dealing with some one who can physically move faster then machine gun fire and jump kick a tank’s artillery.
LMAO! Are you serious? In Gear 3rd. Luffys FINGER is bigger then the entire guy. LMAO, we have a real comedian over here!
As to Arlong is limited to his own.
And in character, Arlong seems to hold back in front of humans because he regardes them as week. In comparison to Midnighter he goes for the kill with out remorse, or negligence.
Yeah, except, Midnighter's attack wouldn't even do anything. If Luffy's attack didn't do anything (At first) then Midnighters attack definitely won't.
Again, Arlong rape.
Luffy a joke, from that feat alone? LOL
And here Midnighter is dealing with someone who can flip buildings, can launch himself like a torpedo, and can catch cannonballs in his teeth and breaks them.
Tank Artilary>>Cannon Balls.
Dealing with someone that flips Skyscrapers>>>>Building
Yeah, except, Midnighter's attack wouldn't even do anything. If Luffy's attack didn't do anything (At first) then Midnighters attack definitely won't.
Again, Arlong rape.
Sure......:oh
Tank Artilary>>Cannon Balls.
Dealing with someone that flips Skyscrapers>>>>Building
A Skyscraper is a building so your point is very moot there.. this "building" could be bigger then a skyscraper. So, yeah.
A Skyscraper is a building so your point is very moot there.. this "building" could be bigger then a skyscraper. So, yeah.
Arlong did not flip over a building that was bigger then a skyscraper.
Apollo did, and thats the type of character Midnighter has dealt with.
What is your point exactly? Maybe because that was the biggest building around?
Wow, honestly. How low can you go?
What is your point exactly? Maybe because that was the biggest building around?
Wow, honestly. How low can you go?
Point is Midnighter has dealt with Apollo who happens to be on a higher strength scale then Arlong.
And the feats are the back bone of my claims.
You can try an weasel your way into making justifications for his lack of feats, but unless its stated or showed. Your point is moot.
Ryoma_Echizen
05-10-2007, 02:11 AM
*munches on popcorn*
-Ryoma Echizen
Point is Midnighter has dealt with Apollo who happens to be on a higher strength scale then Arlong.
And the feats are the back bone of my claims.
You can try an weasel your way into making justifications for his lack of feats, but unless its stated or showed. Your point is moot.
Your point is still moot. Apollo is bigger then Arlong, so obviously he would be able to lift something like a skyscraper. But Arlong could lift a skyscraper either way.
If Arlong was as big as Apollo, then he would be able to lift, a island, going with proportions. Anyway, it still doesn't make any difference. Who cares about Apollo anyway? Arlong would still rape Midnighter until you prove otherwise.
Ryoma_Echizen
05-10-2007, 02:21 AM
I didn't know you could do that. Man Arlong is the shiznit.
-Ryoma Echizen
Lift an island :laugh
Its not really that impossible, even for real life. Lifting or moving an island wouldn't be as difficult as it sounds. Its all about size.
Elijah Snow
05-10-2007, 02:23 AM
I read Authority and One Piece almost religiously and I can say with most confidence that Midnighter would not win. Kuro is too fast, Krieg's durability is too much, and Arlong is too powerful. If Midnighter can beat these characters then these character's have every right to be in your tournament.
ZergKage
05-10-2007, 02:50 AM
What are you talking about ID, the only time i saw Midnighter fight Apollo was with his Super armor which was basically tailor made to beat Apollo. Do you know of another time???
Lambo
05-10-2007, 07:06 AM
Judging from your first post, I'm not too sure if you know how devil fruits work, Id. Of course, if you do know, then what I'm about to type is going to be entirely useless.
Basically, devil fruits can be broken up into three different categories.
The first, most common type is the paramecium fruit, which gives the eater a specific superhuman ability. For example, Luffy ate the rubber fruit, and turned into a rubber human with the ability to stretch. Another example would be Mr. 5, who ate the bomb bomb fruit. This fruit allows him to turn any part of his body into a bomb, as well as making himself impervious to explosions (if I remembered right).
The second type of fruit is the zoan fruit. This fruit grants the user the ability to turn themselves into a specific animal, as well as a hybrid of their original form and animal form. For example, Dalton ate the cow cow fruit, model: bison, which gives him the ability remain in human form, turn into a bison, or turn into a bison-human hybrid. Zoan users are supposed to be the most adept at melee fighting, with zoan users who can transform into carnivorous animals being particularly deadly. However, most zoan users are furries and therefore suck.
The third ability, and by far the rarest, is the Logia fruit. Note that the second letter of Logia is an O, not a U. As much as I like pokemon, Lugia is not part of the One Piece verse. Logia fruits grant their users the ability to turn into a certain element or substance. For example, Admiral Aokiji ate the ice ice fruit, and thus can become ice, as well as generate it. They cannot be physically harmed, unless they are attacked by their weakness, or seastone, and I guess Blackbeard's powers work as well.
Zoan devil fruits are easily distinguishable from other devil fruits because they grant their users the ability to transform into animals. However, paramecium and logias are sometimes more difficult to distinguish between. For example, Mr. 2 has the ability to generate wax that is harder than steel. However, he cannot actually turn himself into wax (although he can make wax armor), which makes him a paramecium. The same applies to Kalifa, who can generate soap, and make soap armor, but cannot actually turn herself into soap.
Also, I just wikied devil fruit, and it turns out that I've been spelling paramecium wrong this whole time. It's actually spelled paramecia, although paramecium are some kind of fresh water protozoan thing, and is the singular form of paramecia, so I'm not totally wrong?
I know nothing about Midnighter so I don't know if he could kill people in one piece verse
Sylar
05-11-2007, 12:59 AM
Enel just vaporizes the island Midnighter is on.
Game, Set, Rape.
Green Lantern
05-11-2007, 04:50 AM
I've read the Planetary, and honestly, I would place Midnighter on around Ultimate Captain America level in terms of strength, agility etc, and around Lady Shiva (or slightly higher) level of hand to hand knowledge and abilities.
All up, a pretty strong dude, but, inspite of this, alot of the OP characters from what I've seen tank harder hits and have done some quite impressive feats..
Midnighter probably just seems more impressive cause he's in Wildstorm Universe and they're allowed to show more gritty and "realistic" violence, as opposed to the stylised fighting of the MU or DCU, or the shonen mangas.
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