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potential
05-09-2007, 02:55 AM
Can these guy's take down Luffy?

Dark Evangel
05-09-2007, 03:02 AM
This is a massive crumbstomp...Ironman can go toe-to-toe to someone like Hulk. And you put Venom on his side?

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05-09-2007, 04:25 AM
This is a massive crumbstomp...Ironman can go toe-to-toe to someone like Hulk. And you put Venom on his side?

No he can't

Thanatos
05-09-2007, 06:17 AM
Children, stop your bickering.

@potential: Are there any further limitations or exceptions for these characters? Or just current form for everybody?

Darklyre
05-09-2007, 06:42 AM
Iron Man gave decent showings against Hulk in his old armor. Now, with Extremis, he's a HELL of a lot faster in combat speed (he was calculating attacks in milliseconds) and has self-repair capabilities. Also, I don't think anyone in OPverse has anything on the level of a unibeam or repulsor blast.

Plus, he flies. At hypersonic speeds.

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05-09-2007, 07:15 AM
Iron Man gave decent showings against Hulk in his old armor. Now, with Extremis, he's a HELL of a lot faster in combat speed (he was calculating attacks in milliseconds) and has self-repair capabilities. Also, I don't think anyone in OPverse has anything on the level of a unibeam or repulsor blast.

Plus, he flies. At hypersonic speeds.

If he's Hulk - level then he's pretty damn weak considering his showings.

Dark Evangel
05-09-2007, 08:02 AM
The Proton Cannon can pretty much vaporize anyone.

Spy_Smasher
05-09-2007, 09:47 AM
IM has never had the ability to go toe-to-toe with HUlk or Thor for long periods, but his base armor has always been able to go toe-to-toe with them for short periods. He has multiple feats against both of them that go along these lines. He's also knocked out a fairly low-level Hulk (not particularly enraged, but not calm either) in his base armor (it caused his armor to shut down, but he did it). Against, other strong earth-bound heroes like Hercules and She-hulk his armor has no durability problems at all and he is usually able to beat them with just his fists.

The thing about IM, though, is he has much more powerful energy weapons than durability and they are backed up by the most sophisticated targetting systems on Marvel earth. He could slag Luffy in microseconds at ranges far beyond Luffy's abilities to even perceive him. The stealth capabilies of his base armor make him invisible to the naked eye, he can travel and fight from space, he can absorb far greater energy attacks than brawling attacks.

If he's Hulk - level then he's pretty damn weak considering his showings.Unless you are talking about him jobbing to Cap or Spidey (which he does from time to time), I have no idea what you're talking about.

Red Exodus
05-09-2007, 11:41 AM
The Proton Cannon can pretty much vaporize anyone.

Not an actual weapon of Stark's FYI, that was only for the fighting games.

Nice Gai
05-09-2007, 11:47 AM
I know its not canon but Ironman did talk about giving the military proton cannons in the Avengers the movie.

Red Exodus
05-09-2007, 01:10 PM
I know its not canon but Ironman did talk about giving the military proton cannons in the Avengers the movie.

Which means what?

Nothing. Especially since that was Animed Ultimate Avengers Iron Man.
Not the 616 Iron Man, who is being debated.

And for all we know, the Proton Cannons he was talking about don't even
look, much less are, the same Proton Cannon in the fighting game.

Nice Gai
05-09-2007, 01:16 PM
Which means what?

Nothing. Especially since that was Animed Ultimate Avengers Iron Man.
Not the 616 Iron Man, who is being debated.

And for all we know, the Proton Cannons he was talking about don't even
look, much less are, the same Proton Cannon in the fighting game.

Nothing it just funny the hype of proton cannons and we never see it. I just see a lot reference to cannon which is not canon.

Darklyre
05-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Actually, Iron Man DID build a proton cannon.

Only, he did so by giving Kyle Rayner the plans, which he then constructed with his GL ring.

Gotta love that JLA/Avengers crossover, eh?

Red Exodus
05-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Actually, Iron Man DID build a proton cannon.

Only, he did so by giving Kyle Rayner the plans, which he then constructed with his GL ring.

Gotta love that JLA/Avengers crossover, eh?

Actually...that's not the first time.

I believe Capcom looked to an Iron Man issue several years ago in the 90's
during the "Technivore" storyline for inspiration on the move.

In that issue, Iron Man uses a massive looking gun (looking very similar to the
PC he uses in the games).

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05-10-2007, 12:08 AM
Unless you are talking about him jobbing to Cap or Spidey (which he does from time to time), I have no idea what you're talking about.

Well then that makes Extremis even more of a screw-up. Iron Man was meant to be 'Hulk-level' before it yet gets pistol whipped against a druggie with some Extremis

So after he took Extremis he should be able to go trade blows with Hulk without armour

Spy_Smasher
05-10-2007, 12:23 PM
Well then that makes Extremis even more of a screw-up. Iron Man was meant to be 'Hulk-level' before it yet gets pistol whipped against a druggie with some Extremis. So after he took Extremis he should be able to go trade blows with Hulk without armourAnd yet he ended up jobbing to Cap (minus shield!) like everyone else. Extremis was massively fucked up because Millar and Bendis are shitheads when it comes to continuity.

masterriku
05-10-2007, 03:31 PM
why are we talking about the marvel bruce wayne ripoff

anyhow i would go with luffy if he could combine gear 2nd and 3rd

Dark Evangel
05-10-2007, 08:26 PM
why are we talking about the marvel bruce wayne ripoff

anyhow i would go with luffy if he could combine gear 2nd and 3rdDo you have any idea what Ironman can do?

potential
05-10-2007, 08:28 PM
Does Venom have to fight?

Dark Evangel
05-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Does Venom have to fight?Venom doesn't need to fight.

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05-11-2007, 12:55 AM
And yet he ended up jobbing to Cap (minus shield!) like everyone else. Extremis was massively fucked up because Millar and Bendis are shitheads when it comes to continuity.

Well Marvel and continuity are chum buddies

wheres the beef?
05-11-2007, 04:01 AM
Do you have any idea what Ironman can do?

dude he's not real take it easy :laugh

luffy could take them both with gear second and third then he'd finish them off with mini luffy ahaha jk

Dark Evangel
05-11-2007, 04:21 AM
dude he's not real take it easy :laugh

luffy could take them both with gear second and third then he'd finish them off with mini luffy ahaha jkNeither does Luffy so stop posting bullshit.

wheres the beef?
05-11-2007, 04:23 AM
you're takin it wayy too seriously :D but meh..

Dark Evangel
05-11-2007, 04:35 AM
you're takin it wayy too seriously :D but meh..
Ozzy Osbourne's Ironman can own your ass anytime.:wink

wheres the beef?
05-11-2007, 04:40 AM
LOL thats one fucked up sight ahahahahaha