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Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 04:00 PM
That’s right I am going to host one more tournament.
Its basically a 3 man cell vs. 3 man cell match using fictional characters.


This tournament is open to Comics and Manga only.
No characters from books, anime, ova’s, video games, etc…

It’s a low-Mid Tier tournament.

Ok lets run some of the details.
*20 min prep time is allowed. Submitting prep time will not be enforced this time around.

*It’s a variation to the Keo style tournament. (some of you my be familiar in how to submit your votes + comments).

*3 man team. (limited in choosing 3 characters only)

*To avoid duplicate characters. It’s a first come first serve.


you didnt awnser how the tournament works...

Step One - Team is registered and approved.
Step Two - Match is made (PM’s will be sent to both parties


Standard match rules
PIS off
CIS on (In Character)
Bloodlust off. Albeit, characters are out to win.
No ring outs
Knock out or fatality



~Shin~ vs. Goku

Team Shin
1. Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
2. Jotaru (JJBA)
3. Luffy (One Piece)

vs.

Team Goku
Gutts (Berserk)
Schierke (Berserk)
Kenpachi (Bleach)

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Step three - Debate, place you vote + comment

Step four - after grace period, match is closed, judges place in their votes and comments.

Step Five - I come in to tally up votes and declare the winner.


- Note -
Only votes with an actual explanation will be taken. (nothing fancy required….. but please something significant).

Each vote is worth 1 point.
Each judges vote is worth 2 points.

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 04:02 PM
Here are some of the restrictions of this tournament.
(Keep in mind this is in effort to keep it Mid-Low Tier)



Rules
Banned - Speed Force Users (Flash >_<)
Banned - Reality Bending
Banned - Time Manipulation
Banned - Actual (Shin/True) Immortality (Lobo, Deadpool etc..)
Banned - Matter Manipulation/Transmutation.
*You can not effect your opponent directly.
*The environment and yourself is fine.

Banned - Absolute Invulnerability (Sasquash, Dark Urizen, Classic Juggernaut)
Banned - No death touches/stares/blasts/etc (Saint Of Killers and others)

Speed - No fluid movements that exceed Mach 10 (around
Power - Nothing that exceeds City Block leveling/busting
Strength - Nothing That exceeds class 100
Durability - Nothing that exceeds CONSTANLY tanking class 100 blows, or City Block Busters.

Comic Book
I you want a general idea of permitted comic book characters for this tournament.
And a general idea of the ranking of popular comic book characters.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=7977666&postcount=41

Manga
On these forums I often see One Piece grossly overestimated. I am uncertain if they should be allowed.
So while I speak to the judges please refrain from picking One Piece Characters.

Saint Seiya Restricted (Silver Saint Level)
Samurai Deeper Kyo Banned
Fist of the North Star Banned
Dragon Ball (Z and GT as well) Banned
One Piece - Banned
^Defiantly break the power curve.

Bleach, Naruto etc..are permissible

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 04:04 PM
I reserve this post to keep track of all approved contestants.

Sylar
05-06-2007, 04:07 PM
Would a logia count as banned?

~Shin~
05-06-2007, 04:07 PM
1. Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
2. Jotaru (JJBA)
3. Luffy (One Piece)

You can ban time stop for Jotaru.

This is subject to change

masamune1
05-06-2007, 04:09 PM
Here are some of the restrictions of this tournament.
(Keep in mind this is in effort to keep it Mid-Low Tier)



Rules
Banned - Speed Force Users (Flash >_<)
Banned - Reality Bending
Banned - Time Manipulation
Banned - Actual (Shin/True) Immortality (Lobo, Deadpool etc..)
Banned - Matter Manipulation/Transmutation.
*You can not effect your opponent directly.
*The environment and yourself is fine.

Banned - Absolute Invulnerability (Sasquash, Dark Urizen, Classic Juggernaut)
Banned - No death touches/stares/blasts/etc (Saint Of Killers and others)

Speed - No fluid movements that exceed Mach 10 (around
Power - Nothing that exceeds City Block leveling/busting
Strength - Nothing That exceeds class 100
Durability - Nothing that exceeds CONSTANLY tanking class 100 blows, or City Block Busters.

Deadpool is not immortal. I'm not sure about Lobo, either.

This is still too vague. you should come up with a list of those who are permitted.

Cipher
05-06-2007, 04:20 PM
1. Cross (666 Satan, post time skip) If needed, remove his angel form
2. Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
3. Pride (Fullmetal Alchemist manga) Only his shown feats, since he's only just been revealed

This may be changed.

Birkin
05-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Gutts (Berserk)
Schierke (Berserk)
Kenpachi (Bleach)

May be changed over time.

Sylar
05-06-2007, 04:22 PM
Sparda- Devil May Cry
Tao Pai Pai- Dragonball
Future Peter- Heroes (You can take his time-stop, I guess)

Participents are subject to change.

atom
05-06-2007, 04:23 PM
Zolo
Ichigo
Gutts

Suzumebachi
05-06-2007, 04:23 PM
1. Yomiko Readman
2. Rob Lucci
3. Master Asia
Bubbles
Buttercup
Blossom

Way way way too powerful.

Dio Brando
05-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Do manga characters have to be at current/end of series? Could I use, for example, silver-saint level Hyoga?

Taleran
05-06-2007, 05:54 PM
I believe the idea is any character that doesn't break the rules so that should work, although even the silver Saints were pretty damn fast.

Enrico Pucci (Stand: C-Moon) (JJBA)
Alexander Anderson (with Nail in inventory) (Hellsing)
DS - Bastard! (early manga)


NOTE: this list isn't finalized just laying down framework, I'm thinking of using Cars but I believe he may be a bit too strong.

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 06:08 PM
I will answers questions for the time being. Once my judges respond I will commence approval of the teams.

In the mean time you have 3 days to make up your mind once the post have bin submitted.
After the 3 days, their will be no character changes. Got it? Good!!!

Chocochip
05-06-2007, 06:15 PM
Is YYH allowed? They might as well break the power curve too.

My pick

Espada 1-3

By the time the tournament starts, they will probably show up:amuse

Of course, in case this does not work, I pick

Byakuya
Ichigo
Blackbeard(does this guy break the rules)

mystictrunks
05-06-2007, 06:16 PM
@Sylar Colosus is above the curve,he's class 100 . . .


My Team
Steel(John Henry)
KazeKage Gaara(pre-extraction)
SuperBoy(kon-el)

Subject to change

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 06:27 PM
For comic book placement. Look in post 2 under Comic Book Characters
It links you to their tier ranking.

As for Manga
YYH is banned.
And I am uncertain about OP characters.


Please refrain from posting OP as of know.

ÐÈPRÈŞŞÈÐ
05-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Hm, I want to give this a try.
I'll take:
Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
Soi Fon (Bleach) Is she too strong?

Dio Brando
05-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Assumming it's allowed:
1.Shun (Pre-sanctuary arc)
2.Sasuke (current)
3.Ranma
and for lulz Tsubasa Ozora

~Shin~
05-06-2007, 06:41 PM
For comic book placement. Look in post 2 under Comic Book Characters
It links you to their tier ranking.

As for Manga
YYH is banned.
And I am uncertain about OP characters.


Please refrain from posting OP as of know.

OP isn't all that powerful that it breaks the rules. Just refrain from the use of logias and it's fair.

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 06:45 PM
I don’t know.
When you have characters casually throwing canon balls the size of war ships, claiming to move at mach 20...that kind of stats violate the rules set forth.

Which is why I need to discuss with the judges who can or cant be allowed or if OP should be banned all together. YYH is already banned. And there is a relentless discussion on how OP>YYH (which I disagree but what ever)

~Shin~
05-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I don’t know.
When you have characters casually throwing canon balls the size of war ships, claiming to move at mach 20...that kind of stats violate the rules set forth.

Which is why I need to discuss with the judges who can or cant be allowed or if OP should be banned all together. YYH is already banned. And there is a relentless discussion on how OP>YYH (which I disagree but what ever)

Those were all calculations by Limit Tester which means it's not entirley canon since it wasn't directly stated by the author himself. So there shouldn't be a problem.

Code
05-06-2007, 06:56 PM
I don’t know.
When you have characters casually throwing canon balls the size of war ships, claiming to move at mach 20...that kind of stats violate the rules set forth.

Which is why I need to discuss with the judges who can or cant be allowed or if OP should be banned all together. YYH is already banned. And there is a relentless discussion on how OP>YYH (which I disagree but what ever)
I don't recall relentless discussion on how OP >YYH. Aside from the Dragonball characters compared to Yu Yu Hakusho, I've only seen that done with Bleach, where a lot of people believed a moderate portion of the Bleach characters to be near the top of Yu Yu Hakusho in standings.

And the mach 20 thing, is something I'd disagree with, though the other case was done by a stronger characters. So you can't use a character from a series where the stronger characters might violate the rules?

Dio Brando
05-06-2007, 06:58 PM
All this means I shouldn't be allowed to use Shun. As long as they limit the characters to a certain part of the story it should be allowed right?

Kazuma the Shell Bullet
05-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Which is why I need to discuss with the judges who can or cant be allowed or if OP should be banned all together. YYH is already banned. And there is a relentless discussion on how OP>YYH (which I disagree but what ever)I dont know how you got OP>YYH. The general consensus is that late Dark Tournament and beyond curbstomps OP.


Anyhoo, as for my team

Aizen
Toxin
Yondaime

~Shin~
05-06-2007, 07:02 PM
It's funny that I have one of the most broken characters on my team :rofl

DoomBringer
05-06-2007, 07:08 PM
I cant use Dokuro-chan :cry

Hakufu Sonsaku (Ikkitousen)
Mink (Dragon Half)
Akutabi Gamma (Zombie Powder)

Comic Book Guy
05-06-2007, 07:10 PM
Flame, you're disqualified.
--Reznor, moridin, Gooba, Comic Book Guy, Taxman

Vynjira
05-06-2007, 07:14 PM
So, what are the teams thus far?

Comic Book Guy
05-06-2007, 07:18 PM
Prize being finalized.

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Flame, you're disqualified.
--Reznor, moridin, Gooba, Comic Book Guy, Taxman

Their you have it. The mods have said so.

So, what are the teams thus far?
Vyn are you going to help me judge again?:wtf

I need judges for the approvel of teams

Um I wont be taking names for 3 days, just answer questions to what is allowed and isn’t.
Once the 3 day grace period is over. All who wanted to participate can no longer change their team line up.

That’s right you have 3 days to make up your mind :mad

~Shin~
05-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Prize being finalized.

What are the prizes you guys came up with?

Fenix
05-06-2007, 07:21 PM
I don’t know.
When you have characters casually throwing canon balls the size of war ships, claiming to move at mach 20...that kind of stats violate the rules set forth.



Claimed by some nobody, not the author. I don't think OP breaks the rules, at least the non-logias don't.

Vynjira
05-06-2007, 07:28 PM
Vyn are you going to help me judge again?:wtfWouldn't have posted if otherwise lol.

Sylar
05-06-2007, 07:30 PM
Can I use Future Peter since he's in a comic? :wtf

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Can I use Future Peter since he's in a comic? :wtf

If he is in a comic, and he does not break the rules its all good.

Wouldn't have posted if otherwise lol.
That’s why you rock hardcore:glomp

Claimed by some nobody, not the author. I don't think OP breaks the rules, at least the non-logias don't.
Aright, I consider non-logias for know. Ill get back as soon as possible.

Darklyre
05-06-2007, 08:00 PM
20-minute preptime? Time to abuse that!

1. Layla Miller (post-Decimation)
2. Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies)
3. Black Alice (DC)

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 08:05 PM
i call
1.Grunbeld aka "Dragon Knight" from Berserk
2.Irvine from Berserk
3.Spiderman(Iron Suit)

The Internet
05-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Is Alucard allowed?

Pein
05-06-2007, 09:17 PM
1.ichigo
2.grimmjow
3.ulquiorra
team bleach

Thanatos
05-06-2007, 09:44 PM
Is Alucard allowed?

He doesn't break any of the rules and he's technically not immortal.

Taleran
05-06-2007, 09:45 PM
yep hes just crazy strong constantly bloodlusted and has a rough estimate of a thousand lives swirling around inside him (only estimation)

Code
05-06-2007, 09:49 PM
Are the characters matched up individually, or all 3 at once?

Thanatos
05-06-2007, 09:50 PM
yep hes just crazy strong constantly bloodlusted and has a rough estimate of a thousand lives swirling around inside him (only estimation)

Well, there is that line that Integra says about there being "thousands of 10's of thousands of lives in him". Which does relatively hold true to the size of the army that Vlad Tepes used back in the day.

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 09:50 PM
so how does this work?

Sylar
05-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Sparda- Devil May Cry
Tao Pai Pai- Dragonball
Future Peter- Heroes (You can take his time-stop, I guess)


Does my team work?

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 09:54 PM
Do manga characters have to be at current/end of series? Could I use, for example, silver-saint level Hyoga?

Because I am a total SS-Tard. And it happens to be my tounament (thus do what ever the hell I want).

Ill let Silver Saints and equivalent go, as long as they don’t break the rules. (and believe me I know who breaks the rules).
I don't recall relentless discussion on how OP >YYH. Aside from the Dragonball characters compared to Yu Yu Hakusho, I've only seen that done with Bleach, where a lot of people believed a moderate portion of the Bleach characters to be near the top of Yu Yu Hakusho in standings.

And the mach 20 thing, is something I'd disagree with, though the other case was done by a stronger characters. So you can't use a character from a series where the stronger characters might violate the rules?
I remember being involved with a few….like a year ago (or more).
I don’t remember the details though.

Despite not being a big fan of One Piece, I do want to make it accessible for this tournament.
I am still discussing if OP should be allowed, or just set forth character restrictions.


Are the characters matched up individually, or all 3 at once?
3 at once.



Oh and people please tell me what serious or comic that character is.

Example
Ichigo (Bleach)
Sasuke (Naruto)
Spawn (Image - Spawn)

Etc…

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 09:57 PM
you didnt awnser how the tournament works...

The Internet
05-06-2007, 09:58 PM
No official team yet, but i call Alucard regardless

Thanatos
05-06-2007, 10:00 PM
you didnt awnser how the tournament works...

Go back and read the first page.

Suzumebachi
05-06-2007, 10:03 PM
I am still discussing if OP should be allowed, or just set forth character restrictions.

It should be certain OP characters, not all.

Like Luffy. City block busting is the limit, right? Well, Luffy did indeed destroy a city block.

Thanatos
05-06-2007, 10:05 PM
It should be certain OP characters, not all.

Like Luffy. City block busting is the limit, right? Well, Luffy did indeed destroy a city block.

I get what you mean, but Luffy's Strength and Durability is well above class 100, isn't it?

Suzumebachi
05-06-2007, 10:08 PM
^Dear lord, yes. Well above.

Sylar
05-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Since I didn't get any negatives, my team is apparently okay.

My final team:

Sparda- Devil May Cry
Tao Pai Pai- Dragonball
Future Peter- Heroes (You can take his time-stop, I guess)

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 10:18 PM
no i mean when is the registration over? and how are you gonna decide who faces who and such...

Thanatos
05-06-2007, 10:22 PM
Who faces who is randomised.

Kuya
05-06-2007, 10:23 PM
Master Roshi (for force)
Samurai Jack (for style)
Reed Richards (for prep)

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 10:26 PM
you didnt awnser how the tournament works...

Step One - Team is registered and approved.
Step Two - Match is made (PM’s will be sent to both parties


Standard match rules
PIS off
CIS on (In Character)
Bloodlust off. Albeit, characters are out to win.
No ring outs
Knock out or fatality



~Shin~ vs. Goku

Team Shin
1. Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
2. Jotaru (JJBA)
3. Luffy (One Piece)

vs.

Team Goku
Gutts (Berserk)
Schierke (Berserk)
Kenpachi (Bleach)

---------------------------commentary-----------------------------------



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Step three - Debate, place you vote + comment

Step four - after grace period, match is closed, judges place in their votes and comments.

Step Five - I come in to tally up votes and declare the winner.


- Note -
Only votes with an actual explanation will be taken. (nothing fancy required….. but please something significant).

Each vote is worth 1 point.
Each judges vote is worth 2 points.

Cipher
05-06-2007, 10:28 PM
Rules
Banned - Speed Force Users (Flash >_<)
Banned - Reality Bending
Banned - Time Manipulation
Banned - Actual (Shin/True) Immortality (Lobo, Deadpool etc..)
Banned - Matter Manipulation/Transmutation.
*You can not effect your opponent directly.
*The environment and yourself is fine.


I'm a smidge confused on this. Does it outlaw all reality bending whatsoever, or reality bending that would immediatly affect the opponent? (bending reality so the opponent does not exist versus changing a desk into a metal spike and then attacking with that)

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 10:28 PM
yeah thats ncie how you explained that you should throw it on the front bag also

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 10:30 PM
I'm a smidge confused on this. Does it outlaw all reality bending whatsoever, or reality bending that would immediatly affect the opponent? (bending reality so the opponent does not exist versus changing a desk into a metal spike and then attacking with that)
Reality bending is banned all together. It wont be allowed in any shape or form.
Matter manipulation/transmutation on yourself or the environment is allowed (not to be confused with reality bending).

Kuya
05-06-2007, 10:32 PM
wait. Samurai Jack is not considered Comic or Manga huh?

AND, does 20 minute prep time include knowing the opponents abilities???

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 10:35 PM
wait. Samurai Jack is not considered Comic or Manga huh?

AND, does 20 minute prep time include knowing the opponents abilities???
Yup Samurai Jack is not considered comic or manga.

Only if some one on your team has previous knowledge on the opposing party.
Other wise no.

Code
05-06-2007, 10:45 PM
Calipha (One Piece)
Kirin (666 Satan)
Kurapica (Hunter x Hunter)

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 10:53 PM
are the guyvers cosmic? i wouldnt think so..if not i call both 1 and 3
ill swicth em out if there avaliable

Code
05-06-2007, 10:56 PM
The Megasmasher's break the city-block limit.

mister_napolean
05-06-2007, 11:16 PM
someone is removing peters time maninpulation so i wonder if i can remove their megasmasher

Kuya
05-06-2007, 11:32 PM
new team

Pre-Crisis Karate Kid (DC)
Iron Man (Marvel, 616)
Ultimate Namor (Marvel)

lemme know if i need to switch anybody out. i lack computer so i'm only on the forums a little bit right now.

Genis-Vell
05-06-2007, 11:46 PM
First and formost. Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT are all banned.
Even the dirt on thier feet are banned.

I borrowed this from another website.
Its contradicting but you get a general idea.

Keep in mind that I only copy pasted it. And I do not agree with the list 100% (more like 65-70%)

Transcendent (Sub-Skyfather):
Amazo, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mogo(?), Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Stayne, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus



Super High - Herald
Adam Warlock, All-Star Superman, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Superman Blue/Red, Thor, The Void

High Class

Upper High
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Eradicator, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Lower High
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, The Atom, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Doom, Death Metal, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lobo, Loki, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Union, Vulcan, Winter

Mid Level.

High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx, Nightshade

Middle - Permissible
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Jenny Sparks, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress

Low <----What I am aiming for and lower.
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Rom, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Low Level Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine, Crossbones, Daredevil, Drakon, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle
Red Hood ,Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat

Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger

Sylar
05-06-2007, 11:55 PM
Wait Dragonball characters are banned? The first one?

Genis-Vell
05-07-2007, 12:04 AM
Wait Dragonball characters are banned? The first one?

Yup even the first one.

I don't even want to discuss why they are banned, (it brings head aches) but they simply are.

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:09 AM
First and formost. Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT are all banned.
Even the dirt on thier feet are banned.

I borrowed this from another website.
Its contradicting but you get a general idea.

Keep in mind that I only copy pasted it. And I do not agree with the list 100% (more like 65-70%)

Transcendent (Sub-Skyfather):
Amazo, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mogo(?), Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Stayne, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus



Super High - Herald
Adam Warlock, All-Star Superman, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Superman Blue/Red, Thor, The Void

High Class

Upper High
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Eradicator, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Lower High
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, The Atom, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Doom, Death Metal, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lobo, Loki, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Union, Vulcan, Winter

Mid Level.

High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx, Nightshade

Middle - Permissible
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Jenny Sparks, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress

Low <----What I am aiming for and lower.
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Rom, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Low Level Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine, Crossbones, Daredevil, Drakon, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle
Red Hood ,Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat

Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger

Very restrictive tournament. It's gonna be boring.:notrust

Taleran
05-07-2007, 12:11 AM
only to those with limited series read, theres alot of 'interesting' abilities and characters that fit within the terms

Sylar
05-07-2007, 12:12 AM
Well then new team:

Sparda (Devil May Cry)
Urahara (Bleach)
Future Peter (Heroes)

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:14 AM
only to those with limited series read, theres alot of 'interesting' abilities and characters that fit within the terms

Only two forms of fiction allowed. One specifically banned that I am a expert in(Video Games.)


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Taleran
05-07-2007, 12:15 AM
if there wasn't any limits it'd be, whoops my characters just destroyed the planet your characters that have to breathe are all dead...


and Video games are too random, to hard to tell whats actual feat and whats just filler for the action/plot.

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:20 AM
if there wasn't any limits it'd be, whoops my characters just destroyed the planet your characters that have to breathe are all dead...


and Video games are too random, to hard to tell whats actual feat and whats just filler for the action/plot.

You do know how much history you have to read to be knowledgeable in comics?

And you have to know what you are looking for. Coulda made a cutsence only rule or something.

Id's intentions was good,(To kill arguments) but this is simply isn't gonna be fun for the people who haven't read loads of manga and know the total history of a certain comic book character.

The Internet
05-07-2007, 12:21 AM
You do know how much history you have to read to be knowledgeable in comics?

And you have to know what you are looking for. Coulda made a cutsence only rule or something.

Id's intentions was good,(To kill arguments) but this is simply isn't gonna be fun for the people who haven't read loads of manga and know the total history of a certain comic book character.


theeeeeeeen dont take part


Urahara (Bleach)
Why use someone who we havent seen really fight yet?

Taleran
05-07-2007, 12:22 AM
This is also probably the best way to infuse new characters into the OB so thats another reason I like it.


oh and Sylar remember Peter and his myriad amounts of power still can't use the specific ones that break the rules.

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:26 AM
theeeeeeeen dont take part



Why use someone who we havent seen really fight yet?

Don't start. I'm not taking part. Just stating that if you kick out whole genres, then you are also limiting the number of people participating to two types of fans.


The natives are restless, I'm out.

Taleran
05-07-2007, 12:28 AM
2 whole genre's.....WTF you talking about.

The Internet
05-07-2007, 12:32 AM
2 whole genre's.....WTF you talking about.

He doesn't approve because we're not using things he is familiar with.

Taleran
05-07-2007, 12:36 AM
I know of one being Video games


but whats the other one?

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:36 AM
He doesn't approve because we're not using things he is familiar with. Remember, Rild doesn't read.

You always have to push it to next level eh?

I know of one being Video games


but whats the other one?

This tourney only allows Comic and Manga. There are more than those two in the very vast realm of fiction.

The Internet
05-07-2007, 12:37 AM
You always have to push it to next level eh?

It's the only way you will stay, and I <3 you:wtf

Genis-Vell
05-07-2007, 12:37 AM
Remember any flaming in your banned instantly from the tournament.
I am going to let the staff members enforce this rule.

Rild, its hard to keep track of different video games, rule out what’s permissible and what isn’t, and times tough to establish proof.

At least with manga or comics only, scan can easily provided to back up a claim. Or hunt them down.

The Internet
05-07-2007, 12:38 AM
It's also that feats are totally inconsistent in games.

Giovanni Rild
05-07-2007, 12:42 AM
It's also that feats are totally inconsistent in games.

Feats are inconstant in Manga and Comics. "COUGH" Captain America "COUGH" Manga speed "COUGH"

Id@: I'm not gonna harm your tourney.

Scum
05-07-2007, 12:49 AM
1. Ubogin(HxH)
2. Kurogane(Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles)
3. Hisoka(HxH)

I'll call them team Bloodlusted

mister_napolean
05-07-2007, 12:54 AM
imma change my first roster to Wolverine

Chocochip
05-07-2007, 01:18 AM
Orochimaru healthy with Edo Tensei
Sasori
Byakuya

Elijah Snow
05-07-2007, 01:55 AM
Elijah Snow(Planetary)
Masataka Takayanagi(Tenjou Tenge)
Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)

Is this team legit?

Chocochip
05-07-2007, 02:10 AM
I think someone called Zaraki.

Elijah Snow
05-07-2007, 02:17 AM
Ok, I substitue him with Masataka Takayanagi

Green Lantern
05-07-2007, 03:04 AM
Hmm.. There are way too many teams being posted XD its hard to keep track of who posted what- Id, if you could summarise the teams so far (or maybe I'll re-read and copypaste them all into a single post)

Also- we need a manga specialist judge, cause there are a heap of mangas on being used, and someone well versed in the realm of manga would help. Maybe Code?

edit:

The Teams which have been submitted so far:
~Shin~
-Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
-Jotaru (JJBA)
-Luffy (One Piece)- Too strong

Hyoutsume
-Cross (666 Satan, post time skip) If needed, remove his angel form
-Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
-Pride (Fullmetal Alchemist manga) Only his shown feats, since he's only just been revealed

Goku
-Gutts (Berserk)
-Schierke (Berserk)
-Kenpachi (Bleach)-Too strong?

Sylar
-Sparda (Devil May Cry)- Videogame character...
-Urahara (Bleach)
-Future Peter (Heroes)- There is a Heroes comicbook, but still... this is quite iffy

Bjuukage
-Zolo (One Piece)
-Ichigo (Bleach)- Too strong?
-Gutts (Berserk)- has already been picked

Suzumebachi
-Yomiko Readman
-Rob Lucci
-Master Asia
(Could you please state which mangas they are from just for reference :amuse)

Taleran
-Enrico Pucci (Stand: C-Moon) (JJBA)
-Alexander Anderson (with Nail in inventory) (Hellsing)
-DS - (Bastard! early manga)

Thegoodjae
-Orochimaru healthy with Edo Tensei (Naruto)
-Sasori (Naruto)
-Byakuya (Bleach)

Mystictrunks
-Steel(John Henry Irons, DC)
-KazeKage Gaara(pre-extraction, Naruto)
-SuperBoy(Kon-el, DC)- Abit iffy, as Kon-el is class 100, and very fast. I would say too powerful.

Depressed
-Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
-Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
-Soi Fon (Bleach)- Is she too strong?

implosion
-Shun (Pre-sanctuary arc, which manga?)
-Sasuke (current)
-Ranma (Ranma 1/2)

Kazuma the Shell Bullet
-Aizen (Bleach)- Abilities too hax?
-Toxin (Marvel)
-Yondaime (Naruto)

Doombringer
-Hakufu Sonsaku (Ikkitousen)
-Mink (Dragon Half)
-Akutabi Gamma (Zombie Powder)

Darklyre
-Layla Miller (post-Decimation, Marvel)- *Sigh* :P
-Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies)
-Black Alice (DC)

mister napolean
-Grunbeld aka "Dragon Knight" (Berserk)
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel)

typeZERO
-Ichigo (Bleach)- Already been picked
-Grimmjow (Bleach)
-Ulquiorra (Bleach)

Kuya
-Pre-Crisis Karate Kid (DC)
-Iron Man (Marvel, 616)- Abit iffy... opinions?
-Ultimate Namor (Marvel)- Too strong

Code
-Calipha (One Piece)
-Kirin (666 Satan)
-Kurapica (Hunter x Hunter)

ezxx
-Ubogin(HxH)
-Kurogane(Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles)
-Hisoka(HxH)

Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk
-Elijah Snow (Planetary)- Nice pick :nod
-Masataka Takayanagi(Tenjou Tenge)
-Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)

I'll throw in my thoughts on what is legal or not when I re-read the list later. Other Judges- Make your calls and I'll edit this list and strike out the chars which y'all think are too overpowered.

BTW- we have 20 entries so far.. I'll make the list more legible as I go through it

edit:
Phew! Done, I made some comments on the characters which looked dodgy. Show me some love people :amuse

Birkin
05-07-2007, 03:47 AM
@ Sylar: I didn't know Sparda and Future Peter were either manga or comic characters.

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 05:06 AM
Bjuukage
-Zolo (One Piece)
-Ichigo (Bleach)- Too strong? Can't see why he'd be too strong
-Gutts (Berserk)- has already been picked

Suzumebachi
-Yomiko Readman - Read Or Die
-Rob Lucci - One Piece
-Master Asia - Mobile Fighter G Gundam? (sorry, not too sure)
(Could you please state which mangas they are from just for reference :amuse)

Depressed
-Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
-Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
-Soi Fon (Bleach)- Is she too strong? She neither breaks the speed nor strength limit.

Just giving my 2 cents.

Darklyre
05-07-2007, 05:20 AM
@ Sylar: I didn't know Sparda and Future Peter were either manga or comic characters.

There's a DMC manga, though I don't remember if Sparda ever showed up.

Kuya
05-07-2007, 05:56 AM
my replacement for Namor will be War Machine.

Pein
05-07-2007, 06:15 AM
my replacement for ichigo is sesshomaru from inuyasha

Ryoma_Echizen
05-07-2007, 07:42 AM
Deidara (Naruto)
Naruto w/ 4 Tails (Naruto)
Amidamaru w/ Murasame (Shaman King)

Deidara's #18 attack might be pushing it, but Deidara's other methods seem to be safe. Lots of fun to be had summoning clay animals to attack. Naruto is there at his full power form because I couldn't really think of anyone else who could match up with Yondaime, Aizen, Orochimaru w/ 2 Hokages, Master Asia, etc. Amidamaru seemed fun to include because he was Ichigo before Ichigo was even created. Just a highly skilled Samurai with a ranged attack and something of a legendary status in history.

-Ryoma Echizen

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 08:06 AM
Naruto is there at his full power form because I couldn't really think of anyone else who could match up with Yondaime, Aizen, Orochimaru w/ 2 Hokages, Master Asia, etc.

Naruto still couldn't handle Aizen, even with that power up.

~Shin~
05-07-2007, 08:46 AM
Why is Luffy banned, but Ichigo isn't?

EDIT: And wtf Ulqoirra and Grimmjow are allowed but Luffy isn't?

Birkin
05-07-2007, 08:48 AM
Kenpachi ain't too strong! :mad

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 09:08 AM
Why is Luffy banned, but Ichigo isn't?

Ichigo has no reason to be banned. Even in Vaizard form his movement speed doesn't exceed Mach 10, he can't one-shot a city, and isn't great when it comes down to both strength and durability.

Luffy on the other hand has well over class 100 str, and has shared blows with people of similar str.

@Goku: He probably isn't. His best feat was slicing through that skyscraper.

~Shin~
05-07-2007, 09:12 AM
Ichigo has no reason to be banned. Even in Vaizard form his movement speed doesn't exceed Mach 10, he can't one-shot a city, and isn't great when it comes down to both strength and durability.

Luffy on the other hand has well over class 100 str, and has shared blows with people of similar str.

@Goku: He probably isn't. His best feat was slicing through that skyscraper.

And Luffy's mach 10 in movement speed? (pls don't pull up that thread Limit Tester made, I want actualy proof from Oda) And when did Luffy one shot a city? He shook bedrock in albasta. He didn't actually completely break it. And actually Ichigo's KGT also is capable of cutting through skyscrapers if not multiple.

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 09:15 AM
And Luffy's mach 10 in movement speed? (pls don't pull up that thread Limit Tester made, I want actualy proof from Oda) And when did Luffy one shot a city? He shook bedrock in albasta. He didn't actually completely break it. And actually Ichigo's KGT also is capable of cutting through skyscrapers if not multiple.

Shin, Luffy only needs to go against one limitation to be banned, not all of them.

The point I was making is that Ichigo hasn't broken any rules, while Luffy has completely overstepped 2 of them.

EvilMoogle
05-07-2007, 09:32 AM
20 Minutes of prep-time eh? Okay, I can break that.

Team "Oh @#$^!"
Rogue (Marvel/X-Men), In her current, but healthy form (Sunfire Powers)
Sage (Marvel/New Excalibur)
Mimic (Marvel/Exiles/Earth-12), (Prior to events of Exiles 37)

Kagutsuchi
05-07-2007, 09:45 AM
Guyver (Without Megasmasher) (Guyver)
Hao Asakura (Shaman King)
Ishida (Bleach)

Taleran
05-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Huzzah my team isn't too strong


since 2 of them may not be too well known I'll direct you to posts that show the relative strength

Enrico: Able to take blows from the higher power stands and not die proving some durabilty, nothing really a speed feet but his ability compensates that

Stand: http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=7768445&postcount=24

and

DS:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5754400&postcount=28
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5754400&postcount=29
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5754400&postcount=30

NOTE: I'm not taking all of that just what fits into the guide lines

Elijah Snow
05-07-2007, 10:27 AM
Why is Pre-Crisis Karate Kid allowed? He did go toe to toe with Pre-Crisis Superboy.

Pein
05-07-2007, 11:11 AM
Why is Pre-Crisis Karate Kid allowed? He did go toe to toe with Pre-Crisis Superboy.

if he is that's so unfair

Ryoma_Echizen
05-07-2007, 11:18 AM
Naruto still couldn't handle Aizen, even with that power up.

Oh, I agree... but Aizen can defeat half the teams by himself in my opinion. KN4 is one of the few characters I can even begin to argue taking a character like Aizen. While I would likely lose such a matchup, I would at least make the debate entertaining. The only other shinobis in Naruto capable of debate are either taken (Yondaime), or have deathstares (Kakashi, Itachi). The only other manga I have enough familiarity to make interesting arguments is Bleach... which Aizen sort of rules.

I have some questions about the contests, how does one argue against combatants from mangas one has no familiarity with. For example with Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk's team I've never heard of any of those manga. Also what happens during the prep time? Is that when we each present opening arguments or what not?

What is the criteria for judging "class 100 blows". I've never heard of this and would like to see examples of such violent hits. :) How also would you judge "Mach 10" speed in manga. I'd like more explanation of how the limits on attributes are determined, since I am a n00b and all.

-Ryoma Echizen

Birkin
05-07-2007, 01:06 PM
Oh, I agree... but Aizen can defeat half the teams by himself in my opinion. KN4 is one of the few characters I can even begin to argue taking a character like Aizen. While I would likely lose such a matchup, I would at least make the debate entertaining. The only other shinobis in Naruto capable of debate are either taken (Yondaime), or have deathstares (Kakashi, Itachi). The only other manga I have enough familiarity to make interesting arguments is Bleach... which Aizen sort of rules.

I have some questions about the contests, how does one argue against combatants from mangas one has no familiarity with. For example with Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk's team I've never heard of any of those manga. Also what happens during the prep time? Is that when we each present opening arguments or what not?

What is the criteria for judging "class 100 blows". I've never heard of this and would like to see examples of such violent hits. :) How also would you judge "Mach 10" speed in manga. I'd like more explanation of how the limits on attributes are determined, since I am a n00b and all.

-Ryoma Echizen

Trust me. If my team meets Aizen I got the perfect way of ending him. :P

Ryoma_Echizen
05-07-2007, 01:32 PM
Well its something I'll look forward too as I don't know much about Beserk. The main thing with Aizen is that his powers haven't really been shown to have any sort of limit. Add to that his ability to control his opponent's mind... My idea with KN4 is because its also a character that hasn't really shown to have any limits. The upper limit is undefined and can be argued.

I'm not trying to diss anyone's team, I'm just finding it difficult to envision a scenario where Aizen loses (even hypothetically) just because he's been portrayed as an untouchable god, and he's only appeared for briefly. All the characters selected I would assume have appeared in the respective manga/comics for 20 chapters or so and have had time to flesh out what they can and can't do. Because the creator of Bleach hasn't revealed the way which Aizen can be defeated, he is invulnerable imho.

-Ryoma Echizen

The Internet
05-07-2007, 04:06 PM
My Team

Alucard
Aokiji
Kaku

Aldric
05-07-2007, 04:20 PM
Why not...

My team:

-Ede Ee (Bastard!!)
-Gally (Gunnm Last Order)
-Abigail (Bastard!!)

Sylar
05-07-2007, 04:50 PM
So no Sparda despite the manga?

Aight.

New team:

Urahara (Bleach)
Future Peter (Heroes) with no time manipulation
Human Torch (Fantastic Four)

Peter's fine right?

Elijah Snow
05-07-2007, 05:01 PM
Can I change my choice of Masataka Takayanagi and change him with Kagiroi Tetsuhito(Tenjou Tenge as well)?

This would make my team:
Elijah Snow(Planetary)
Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)
Kagiroi Tetsuhito(TenTen)

Birkin
05-07-2007, 05:22 PM
Jesus love of God. I just had the perfect team. If only movies were allowed. :(

Taleran
05-07-2007, 05:27 PM
wait wait wait Human Torch is allowed.....O.O, oh and Spectre I believe Logia's are a no go


and before I finish my team I need to know


1. Whats the arena
2. Time of Day

Sylar
05-07-2007, 05:36 PM
Is Human Torch no good?

My team is changing way too much. :notrust

Taleran
05-07-2007, 05:38 PM
well just that there isn't anyone of the tier we are in that can survive Nova Level flame except for like a couple...

Sylar
05-07-2007, 05:45 PM
:Sigh: I'll take him off...

Cipher
05-07-2007, 06:36 PM
Not to attack you, Shin, but I have to wonder if Tyki Mikk is too strong for this tourney... He's practically a reality warper... (this is purely for the fairness aspect, it doesn't matter too much to me, since I have Allen :P ).

~Shin~
05-07-2007, 06:59 PM
Not to attack you, Shin, but I have to wonder if Tyki Mikk is too strong for this tourney... He's practically a reality warper... (this is purely for the fairness aspect, it doesn't matter too much to me, since I have Allen :P ).

I don't see how he's a reality warper? He has broken powers but not reality warping.

Lol that's fucking cheap. You basically don't have to debate at all if Allen faces Tyki Mick.

Taleran
05-07-2007, 06:59 PM
well yeah it depends on the other 2 members aswell

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 07:31 PM
My Team

Alucard - Hellsing
Aokiji - One Piece (possibly banned)
Kaku - One Piece

Well, I've got nothing better to do right now.

~Shin~
05-07-2007, 07:34 PM
Okay here's my new team:

Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
Kujaku (666 Satan)
Jotaru (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

Also subject to change.

The Internet
05-07-2007, 07:49 PM
Well, I've got nothing better to do right now.

Don't see why he would be, he is not invulnerable, he is not super faster, and he hasnt shown any strength feats.

It's just, if he touches you you're gunna be rather cold.

~Shin~
05-07-2007, 08:06 PM
Aokoji definitely breaks the power curve. The power needed to freeze that big of an ocean takes more energy than a nuke (a fuck lot more).

Taleran
05-07-2007, 08:07 PM
not to mention he can tank blows to a limit we don't yet know

Thanatos
05-07-2007, 08:09 PM
Don't see why he would be, he is not invulnerable, he is not super faster, and he hasnt shown any strength feats.

It's just, if he touches you you're gunna be rather cold.

Actually, I was just re-ittereating Taleran's thoughts from before. I realise that he doesn't actually break any of the rules.

Vicious
05-07-2007, 08:15 PM
Ishiyumi Tessen (Tenjo Tenge)
Tsumuji Mataza (Tenjo Tenge)
Yoruichi Shihouin (Bleach)

Probably end up changing them.

Chocochip
05-07-2007, 08:48 PM
Mitsui of Shohoku.

Fuuji of Sengoku.

Himura of Demon Devil Bats.

These are actually the most hack people ever.

Dio Brando
05-07-2007, 09:08 PM
I'm changing Sasuke for Ikki....
1.Shun (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
2.Ikki (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
3.Ranma (Ranma 1/2)

Fenix
05-07-2007, 09:23 PM
This tournament is a bit too strict. Unless you know shit tons of mangas/comics, it's a bit hard to come up with a really strong char that just fits under the curve

Setsuna Sakurazaki - Negima
Feitan - HxH
Kakuzu - Naruto

Yeah I'm lacking imagination I guess, if any of these people are already taken or DQs, just count me out I got one last final left I got study for, don't wanna exert too much time on this before that one's over.

Cipher
05-07-2007, 09:34 PM
My new team is:

Cross (666 Satan, post timeskip) most likely, his full Metatron form will be barred
Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
Teresa (Claymore)

This may be subject to change.

Actually, Shin, until we know what Allen's new powerup does, I'm of the opinion that Tyki would still whip him.

mister_napolean
05-08-2007, 12:17 AM
alot of characters are repeated

Sylar
05-08-2007, 12:21 AM
Okay New Team:

Future Peter with no time stopping. (Heroes comics)
Urahara (Bleach)
Gecko Moria (One Piece)



If Gecko isn't allowed then I'll just use Brook (One Piece).

Taleran
05-08-2007, 12:22 AM
whats the point of using a character who hasn't been in a real fight?

atom
05-08-2007, 12:22 AM
Ok new team time.

Megas XRL
Samurai Jack
Dante

The Internet
05-08-2007, 12:22 AM
I know...

We haven't seen anything much from urahara or Gecko

Taleran
05-08-2007, 12:23 AM
lol Megas is definate banned, Button for EVERYTHING

Sylar
05-08-2007, 12:28 AM
I know...

We haven't seen anything much from urahara or Gecko

I just can't win.

OKAY.

NEW TEAM FOR THE GOD ONLY KNOWS HOW MANY TIME.

Brook (One Piece)
Future Peter (Heroes comics) with no time stopping.
Lavi (D. Grey-man) I mean if Allen is allowed...

The Internet
05-08-2007, 12:29 AM
.

Brook (One Piece)
Future Peter (Heroes comics) with no time stopping.
Yu Kanda (D. Grey-man) I mean if Allen is allowed...

...

Dude....oi. Forget it.

Sylar
05-08-2007, 12:30 AM
What? He's fought.

atom
05-08-2007, 12:31 AM
lol Megas is definate banned, Button for EVERYTHING
He's still within the rules though.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 12:32 AM
What? He's fought.

yes because 1 sword attack is a fight.

The Internet
05-08-2007, 12:32 AM
What? He's fought.

But, what can he do?

His fight was vague. It's questionable how he killed that thing.

Suzumebachi
05-08-2007, 12:34 AM
He's still within the rules though.

Its a city block buster.

atom
05-08-2007, 12:42 AM
Its a city block buster.
Gah, ok, in that case.

New Team

Zolo
Samurai Jack
Dante

Sylar
05-08-2007, 12:45 AM
New Team:

Future Peter (Heroes comics) with no time stopping
Lavi (D. Grey-man) Heck, if Tyki Myki is allowed....
Still thinking about the third one...

Is Doc Ock allowed?

Chocochip
05-08-2007, 12:47 AM
Byakuya
Mayuri
Sasori

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 12:51 AM
Gah... too... many... teams...

*Sigh*

Give me another 20 minutes or so, and I'll repost the team list.

Could y'all stop making changes like every 2 minutes or so- it's making me dizzy :S

Code
05-08-2007, 12:54 AM
Gah, ok, in that case.

New Team

Zolo
Samurai Jack
Dante
I think Samurai Jack was already prohibited due to not being from a comic or manga.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 12:54 AM
Dante aswell I believe

Sylar
05-08-2007, 12:56 AM
The thing is there is a Devil May Cry manga so Dante and Sparda (who I wanted on my team) should be allowed.

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 12:56 AM
Ok new team time.

Megas XRL
Samurai Jack
Dante

Megas XRL (comic and manga only - Well above city block busting)
Samurai Jack (comic and manga only)
Dante (Comic and manga only)


I am participating as well. I only have one member chosen so far.
Ian Nottingham (Witchblade)
~Having Witchbalde and The Darkness Siphoned~

atom
05-08-2007, 12:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that Dante and Samurai Jack have comics. Also, I changed Megas XRL to Zolo from One Piece.


EDIT:

Yep Jack is in a comic.
http://www.animationusa.com/general/cn003.html

Suzumebachi
05-08-2007, 01:00 AM
Megas XRL (comic and manga only - Well above city block busting)
Samurai Jack (comic and manga only)
Dante (Comic and manga only)


I am participating as well. I only have one member chosen so far.
Ian Nottingham (Witchblade)
~Having Witchbalde and The Darkness Siphoned~

You should put a cap on the entries soon so we can start.

atom
05-08-2007, 01:02 AM
Ok well, my last entry was the final one.

Zolo (One Piece): He is in a manga (One Piece.. duh)
Dante (Devil May Cry): He is in the manga.
Jack (Samurai Jack): He is in the Cartoon Network official comic.

Thanatos
05-08-2007, 01:04 AM
Gah... too... many... teams...

*Sigh*

Give me another 20 minutes or so, and I'll repost the team list.

Could y'all stop making changes like every 2 minutes or so- it's making me dizzy :S

Can I start changing other people's teams too? :amuse

Sylar
05-08-2007, 01:06 AM
Okay:

Future Peter (Heroes comic) with no time stopping
Lavi (D. Grey-Man) If Tyki Myki is allowed.
Black Tarantula a.k.a. Fabian LaMuerto (MC2)

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 01:14 AM
The Teams which have been submitted so far:
~Shin~
-Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
-Kujaku (666 Satan)
-Jotaru (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

Hyoutsume
-Cross (666 Satan, post timeskip) most likely, his full Metatron form will be barred
-Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
-Teresa (Claymore)

Goku
-Gutts (Berserk)
-Schierke (Berserk)
-Kenpachi (Bleach)-Too strong?

Sylar
-Future Peter (Heroes comic) with no time stopping
-Lavi (D. Grey-Man)
-Black Tarantula a.k.a. Fabian LaMuerto (MC2)

Bjuukage
-Zolo (One Piece)
-Dante (Devil May Cry)
-Jack (Samurai Jack)

Suzumebachi
-Yomiko Readman (Read or Die)
-Rob Lucci (One Piece)
-Master Asia (Mobile Fighter G Gundam)

Taleran
-Enrico Pucci (Stand: C-Moon) (JJBA)
-Alexander Anderson (with Nail in inventory) (Hellsing)
-DS - (Bastard! early manga)

Thegoodjae
-Byakuya (Bleach)
-Mayuri (Bleach)
-Sasori (Naruto)

Mystictrunks
-Steel(John Henry Irons, DC)
-KazeKage Gaara(pre-extraction, Naruto)
-SuperBoy(Kon-el, DC)- Abit iffy, as Kon-el is class 100, and very fast. I would say too powerful.

Depressed
-Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
-Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
-Soi Fon (Bleach)

implosion
-Shun (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ikki (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ranma (Ranma 1/2)

Kazuma the Shell Bullet
-Aizen (Bleach)- Abilities too hax?
-Toxin (Marvel)
-Yondaime (Naruto)

Doombringer
-Hakufu Sonsaku (Ikkitousen)
-Mink (Dragon Half)
-Akutabi Gamma (Zombie Powder)

Darklyre
-Layla Miller (post-Decimation, Marvel)- *Sigh* :P
-Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies)
-Black Alice (DC)

mister napolean
-Grunbeld aka "Dragon Knight" (Berserk)
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel)

typeZERO
-Sesshomaru (Inuyasha)
-Grimmjow (Bleach)
-Ulquiorra (Bleach)

Kuya
-Pre-Crisis Karate Kid (DC)
-Iron Man (Marvel, 616)- Abit iffy... opinions?
-War Machine (Marvel, 616)

Code
-Calipha (One Piece)
-Kirin (666 Satan)
-Kurapica (Hunter x Hunter)

ezxx
-Ubogin(HxH)
-Kurogane(Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles)
-Hisoka(HxH)

Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk
-Elijah Snow(Planetary)
-Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito(TenTen)

Ryoma Echizen
Deidara (Naruto)
Naruto w/ 4 Tails (Naruto)
Amidamaru w/ Murasame (Shaman King)

Evil Moogle
Rogue (Marvel/X-Men), In her current, but healthy form (Sunfire Powers)
Sage (Marvel/New Excalibur)
Mimic (Marvel/Exiles/Earth-12), (Prior to events of Exiles 37)

Kagutsuchi
Guyver (Without Megasmasher) (Guyver)
Hao Asakura (Shaman King)
Ishida (Bleach)

Spectre
-Alucard (Hellsing)
-Aokiji (One Piece)
-Kaku (One Piece)

Aldric
-Ede Ee (Bastard!!)
-Gally (Gunnm Last Order)
-Abigail (Bastard!!)


4thandnaruto
-Ishiyumi Tessen (Tenjo Tenge)
-Tsumuji Mataza (Tenjo Tenge)
-Yoruichi Shihouin (Bleach)

April Vacation
-Setsuna Sakurazaki (Negima)
-Feitan - (HxH)
-Kakuzu (Naruto)


*sigh*

If everyone could make their updates in a NEW post in the following format:
Update
Poster's Name
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)

That would help alot :amuse

@Thanatos- Feel free to start slashing away at the teams :P
I seem to be functioning more as an admin then a judge at the moment...

Also- 27 teams so far. There needs to be a cap or this tourney is going overboard.

Sylar
05-08-2007, 01:16 AM
Is Sparda allowed since Devil May Cry is a manga and can I replace BT with Sparda?

atom
05-08-2007, 01:20 AM
Yeah, you can.

Thanatos
05-08-2007, 01:24 AM
Radishbak, exactly why do you think Kenpachi is too strong?

@Sylar & Bijuukage: Keep in mind that means you can only use feats from their comics as the video games would be deemed non-canonical.

Elijah Snow
05-08-2007, 01:43 AM
OK someone needs to ban Pre Crisis Karate Kid. Like right now. He's too damn strong.

Sylar
05-08-2007, 01:49 AM
@Sylar & Bijuukage: Keep in mind that means you can only use feats from their comics as the video games would be deemed non-canonical.

Ah, nevermind then. :amuse

atom
05-08-2007, 01:56 AM
Update
Bijuukage
-Zolo (One Piece)
-Jack (Samurai Jack)
-MewTwo (Pokemon)

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 02:08 AM
I am going to be vary vary strict on my rules.

If you attempt to use a cartoon or video game character that know has its own comic or manga (yeah fucking loop holes I hate them).

You will not be able to use anything from the cartoon or video game!!!!
Only its respective comic or manga feats.


32 members cap.
So once 32 teams are approved. Registration is closed.

First round - 16 matches
Second round - 8 matches
Quarter finales - 4 matches
Semi - finales - 2 matches
Final Match - 1 matches

My judges have agreed. And I will comply. One Piece in general (not all but the really popular characters) exceed the rules set forth.

To avoid any headaches One Piece is banned.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 02:11 AM
I was wondering if I could grab answers to my earlier questions

1. Arena
2. Time of Day.

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 02:17 AM
I was wondering if I could grab answers to my earlier questions

1. Arena
2. Time of Day.

You are going to ruin the show for me. (I wanted to surprise ppl)
Each round takes place in a different arena.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 02:19 AM
well that screws up my roster considering part of my plan was to have Enrio mention the other 2 that he was going to switch the focci in the area to make the fight happen sideways,

but if its a bit flat piece of land everyone but him would go sliding down it....(that seems a little bit too much like Reality Manipulation so I'm gonna switch him out...

My Team
1. DS - early manga (Bastard!)
2. Alexander Anderson w/ nail (Hellsing)
3. Bruno Buccarati (JJBA)

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 02:24 AM
Yeah DS early manga……………..you need to point out from chapter 1-chapter XXX specifically. Because DS also happens to be beyond a Mid Low character.

Or else DS is completely banned. (he should be >_>)

Taleran
05-08-2007, 02:25 AM
yeah I guess I can find someone else to fill the spot

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 02:28 AM
2nd day is over. In one more day I will be reviewing everyone’s teams and after approvals, you will not get the chance to switch characters. Registration will be closed as soon as we hit 32 members.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 02:34 AM
okay all finished just needing approval


My Team
1. Alexander Anderson w/ Nail (Hellsing)
2. Yoshikage Kira (Stand: Killer Queen (minus time manip stuff) (JJBA)
3. Bruno Buccarati (Stand: Sticky Fingers) (JJBA)

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 02:38 AM
Mid Level.

High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx, Nightshade

Middle - Permissible
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Jenny Sparks, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress

Low <----What I am aiming for and lower.
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Rom, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Low Level Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine, Crossbones, Daredevil, Drakon, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle
Red Hood ,Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat

Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger

I am just reposting this for future refrense. Remember we are aiming for a Mid Low tier. But I deem, Mid Mid characters permissible.

Updates to my team.
I am participating as well. I only have one member chosen so far.
Ian Nottingham (Top Cow - Witchblade)
~Having Witchbalde and The Darkness Siphoned~


Midnighter (Wildstorm - The Authority)

Sylar
05-08-2007, 02:44 AM
Update
Sylar

1. Future Peter (Heroes comic) with no time stopping
2. Lavi (D. Grey-Man)
3. Captain Hans Günsche (Hellsing)

Darklyre
05-08-2007, 03:26 AM
Update
Darklyre
-Layla Miller (Marvel-616, post-Decimation)
-Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies, pre-destruction by Ult. Reed Richards)
-Black Alice (DC, post-OYL)

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 03:34 AM
Radishbak, exactly why do you think Kenpachi is too strong?

@Sylar & Bijuukage: Keep in mind that means you can only use feats from their comics as the video games would be deemed non-canonical.

His durability, and his crazy strength levels... Maybe?

I'm not too sure though, which is why I asked.

I'll update the list once more later on today.

BTW if you're posting a new team use the following format:
New Team
Poster Name
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)

Whereas if you're updating please post in the following format:
Update
Poster Name
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)

Just makes it abit easier for me to sort out :P (Especially with 32 participants :oh)

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 03:44 AM
The Teams which have been submitted so far:
~Shin~
-Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
-Kujaku (666 Satan)
-Jotaru (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

Hyoutsume
-Cross (666 Satan, post timeskip) most likely, his full Metatron form will be barred
-Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
-Teresa (Claymore)

Goku
- Gutts (Berserk)
- Schierke (Berserk)
- Killua (Hunter X Hunter)

Sylar
-Future Peter (Heroes comic) with no time stopping
-Lavi (D. Grey-Man)
-Captain Hans Günsche (Hellsing)

Bjuukage
-Zolo (One Piece)
-Jack (Samurai Jack)
-MewTwo (Pokemon)- Um... I don't think so... Weather manipulation on a large scale... Psycho telepathy...

Suzumebachi
-Yomiko Readman (Read or Die)
-Rob Lucci (One Piece)
-Master Asia (Mobile Fighter G Gundam)

Taleran
-Alexander Anderson w/ Nail (Hellsing)
-Yoshikage Kira (Stand: Killer Queen (minus time manip stuff) (JJBA)
-Bruno Buccarati (Stand: Sticky Fingers) (JJBA)

Thegoodjae
-Byakuya (Bleach)
-Mayuri (Bleach)
-Sasori (Naruto)

Mystictrunks
-Steel(John Henry Irons, DC)
-KazeKage Gaara(pre-extraction, Naruto)
-SuperBoy(Kon-el, DC)- Abit iffy, as Kon-el is class 100, and very fast. I would say too powerful.

Depressed
-Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
-Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
-Soi Fon (Bleach)

implosion
-Shun (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ikki (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ranma (Ranma 1/2)

Kazuma the Shell Bullet
-Aizen (Bleach)- Abilities too hax?
-Toxin (Marvel)
-Yondaime (Naruto)

Doombringer
-Hakufu Sonsaku (Ikkitousen)
-Mink (Dragon Half)
-Akutabi Gamma (Zombie Powder)

Darklyre
-Layla Miller (Marvel-616, post-Decimation)
-Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies, pre-destruction by Ult. Reed Richards)
-Black Alice (DC, post-OYL)

mister napolean
-Grunbeld aka "Dragon Knight" (Berserk)
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel)

typeZERO
-Sesshomaru (Inuyasha)
-Grimmjow (Bleach)
-Ulquiorra (Bleach)

Kuya
-Nightcrawler (Marvel, Age of Apocalypse)
-Iron Man (Marvel, 616)
-War Machine (Marvel, 616)

Code
-Calipha (One Piece)
-Kirin (666 Satan)
-Kurapica (Hunter x Hunter)

ezxx
-Ubogin(HxH)
-Kurogane(Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles)
-Hisoka(HxH)

Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk
-Elijah Snow(Planetary)
-Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito(TenTen)

Ryoma Echizen
Deidara (Naruto)
Naruto w/ 4 Tails (Naruto)
Amidamaru w/ Murasame (Shaman King)

Evil Moogle
-Rogue (Marvel/X-Men), In her current, but healthy form (Sunfire Powers)
-Sage (Marvel/New Excalibur)
-Mimic (Marvel/Exiles/Earth-12), (Prior to events of Exiles 37)

Kagutsuchi
-Guyver (Without Megasmasher) (Guyver)
-Hao Asakura (Shaman King)
-Ishida (Bleach)

Spectre
-Alucard (Hellsing)
-Aokiji (One Piece)
-Kaku (One Piece)

Aldric
-Ede Ee (Bastard!!)
-Gally (Gunnm Last Order)
-Ninja Master Gara (Bastard!!)


4thandnaruto
-Ishiyumi Tessen (Tenjo Tenge)
-Tsumuji Mataza (Tenjo Tenge)
-Yoruichi Shihouin (Bleach)

April Vacation
-Setsuna Sakurazaki (Negima)
-Feitan - (HxH)
-Kakuzu (Naruto)

Berwyn
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito (Tenjou Tenge)
-Itachi (Naruto)
-Future Sylar (Heroes)

I'll update it once more later tonite (Aus time).

Remember the formats guys:
Update=
Update
Postername
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)

New Entries=
New Entry
Poster Name
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)
-Team Member (Comic/Manga)

Aldric
05-08-2007, 04:15 AM
I just remembered Abigail took hits with a 1 million tons pressure behind them and had a potential city destroying spell so I think he's not going to cut it.

Update

Aldric

-Ede Ee (Bastard!!)
-Gally (Gunnm Last Order)
-Ninja Master Gara (Bastard!!)

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 04:30 AM
At least you're honest :amuse

List updated

Kuya
05-08-2007, 04:53 AM
Karate Kid didn't break any rules, but i guess i'll change him.
And didn't i have Samurai Jack earlier but wasn't allowed to keep him?

Lemme figure out a replacement then.

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 05:09 AM
Technically speaking, Karate Kid is fine, but featswise, the ability to take out Daxamites (Pre Crisis) and Superboy (Pre Crisis) easily puts him into another league :P

Uhh.. AFAIK you didn't pick Samurai Jack either that or you picked it, it was determined to be a TV show char, so you unpicked it, then someone else showed that there was a Cartoon network comic with it in, so they managed to pick it over you...

Something like that :S

Birkin
05-08-2007, 07:25 AM
Update
Goku
- Gutts (Berserk)
- Schierke (Berserk)
- Killua (Hunter X Hunter) -- Unsure about Killua, if not approved, tell me.

Violent Man
05-08-2007, 07:29 AM
Guess I'll join

New Entry

Berwyn
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito (Tenjou Tenge)
-Itachi (Naruto)
-Future Sylar (Heroes)

Thanatos
05-08-2007, 07:55 AM
Update
Goku
- Gutts (Berserk)
- Schierke (Berserk)
- Killua (Hunter X Hunter) -- Unsure about Killua, if not approved, tell me.

Why'd you change Kenpachi? I think radishbak has accepted him now (at least, that's the impression I got from his most recent team update).

Kuya
05-08-2007, 08:01 AM
Technically speaking, Karate Kid is fine, but featswise, the ability to take out Daxamites (Pre Crisis) and Superboy (Pre Crisis) easily puts him into another league :P

Uhh.. AFAIK you didn't pick Samurai Jack either that or you picked it, it was determined to be a TV show char, so you unpicked it, then someone else showed that there was a Cartoon network comic with it in, so they managed to pick it over you...

Something like that :S

no worries. i understand u on that. i'll find another, thanks.

Kuya
05-08-2007, 08:13 AM
My team

Nightcrawler (Marvel, Age of Apocalypse)
Iron Man (Marvel, 616)
War Machine (Marvel, 616)

also. can we double check on allowing Black Alice???

~Shin~
05-08-2007, 08:50 AM
Just giving you a heads up, Goku you shouldn't use Shierke. Her attacks are basically useless outside the Berserkverse since she summons the spirits that dwell there.

Birkin
05-08-2007, 09:13 AM
Why'd you change Kenpachi? I think radishbak has accepted him now (at least, that's the impression I got from his most recent team update).

I just realized I already have a strong melee fighter so I need a speedster.

@ Shin: I would assume her attacks would work outside the Berserk verse. At least they should. If not I will change, got to ask a judge first.

Cthulhu-versailles
05-08-2007, 10:10 AM
hmm,

Leeria
-Ability= can teleport you as far as another galaxy, and with bloodlust anything in between with the thought activate teleportation. Can also teleport herself anywhere. Note, has non offensive telepath.
Base abilities- Is as big as an elephant, has about 4 tetomorphic arms, and is faster then anything of our earth in the water. Durability= relatively human.

Killy- his gun might mean he banned. He has a graviton beam emitter that can punch threw anything and has destroyed whole sectors.

Shiki Tonho Prime
-his ability to kill anything if he hits might mean he's banned also...

If all three are banned I need some time to think of others. lol, all three are probably banned though...........

Aldric
05-08-2007, 10:31 AM
Gally can run at Mach 18, but that's on long distances, not short bursts. Also Gara has an attack striking at light speed, but that's not his movement speed. Are they allowed?

Darklyre
05-08-2007, 10:38 AM
also. can we double check on allowing Black Alice???

My reasoning for using Black Alice is that she has very few magical abilities of her own. Her power is directly limited by the other team's, assuming we're using a neutral universe for the arena.

Elijah Snow
05-08-2007, 02:02 PM
Just to keep things straight, character's can not be used by two different people right?

Birkin
05-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Just to keep things straight, character's can not be used by two different people right?

That's right.

DoomBringer
05-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Would this be over the limit?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9941/42gc0.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42gc0.jpg)

mister_napolean
05-08-2007, 03:29 PM
Update
Mister Napolean
-Wolverine (X-Men)
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel)

Sylar
05-08-2007, 05:16 PM
Guess I'll join

New Entry

Berwyn
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito (Tenjou Tenge)
-Itachi (Naruto)
-Future Sylar (Heroes)

Future Sylar isn't in a comic.

Only Present Sylar was.

Taleran
05-08-2007, 05:23 PM
one other question

is Deme-Chan (Hunter X Hunter) too powerful?

Birkin
05-08-2007, 06:53 PM
Radishbak: I need an answer really soon. Does Schierke's powers work in this universe? In the Berserk universe she calls upon spirits that dwell there. Does it still work in this universe?

mystictrunks
05-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Update
Gaara(Post skip,Pre-extraction) - Naruto
Steel(John henry) - Various DC comics
Static-Static Shock(milestone comics)

Violent Man
05-08-2007, 08:26 PM
Update
Shin Natsume(TenTen)
Uchiha Itachi(Naruto)
Sylar(Heroes)

atom
05-08-2007, 09:11 PM
Update
Zolo (One Piece)
Jack (Samurai Jack)
Hidan (Naruto)

mister_napolean
05-08-2007, 09:15 PM
you cant use jack

atom
05-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Yes I can. Zolo and Jack are already my confirmed people by the OP.

mister_napolean
05-08-2007, 09:21 PM
ohh really?
Update
-Juggernaut(Marvel)
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel)

atom
05-08-2007, 09:27 PM
Juggernaut is WAAAY too strong.

Vicious
05-08-2007, 09:31 PM
Update
Nidaime Hokage (Naruto)
Yoruichi Shihouin (Bleach)
Ishiyumi Tessen (Tenjou Tenge)

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 09:44 PM
Would this be over the limit?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9941/42gc0.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42gc0.jpg)

God yes.:notrust

EvilMoogle
05-08-2007, 09:54 PM
Juggernaut is WAAAY too strong.

Classic Juggernaut, yes. If he means current Juggernaut I'm not going to argue with him.

atom
05-08-2007, 10:04 PM
Current Juggernaut is hardly a factor. Sure he is still strong and such.. but really he is just a strong guy.. thats pretty much it. He would get owned by alot of people.

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 10:38 PM
1
~Shin~ - Approved
-Tyki Mick (D. Gray Man)
-Kujaku (666 Satan)
-Jotaru (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

2
Hyoutsume -- Approved
-Cross (666 Satan, post timeskip) most likely, his full Metatron form will be barred
-Allen Walker (D.Gray-man)
-Teresa (Claymore)

3
Goku - Approved
- Gutts (Berserk)
- Schierke (Berserk)
- Killua (Hunter X Hunter) --

4
Sylar - - Approved
-Future Peter (Heroes comic) with no time stopping
-Lavi (D. Grey-Man)
-Captain Hans Günsche (Hellsing)


5
Suzumebachi - Approved
-Yomiko Readman (Read or Die)
-Rob Lucci (One Piece)
-Master Asia (Mobile Fighter G Gundam) - No gundam for master Aisa >.<

6
Taleran - Approved
-Alexander Anderson w/ Nail (Hellsing)
-Yoshikage Kira (Stand: Killer Queen (minus time manip stuff) (JJBA)
-Bruno Buccarati (Stand: Sticky Fingers) (JJBA)

7
Thegoodjae - Approved
-Byakuya (Bleach)
-Mayuri (Bleach)
-Sasori (Naruto)

8
Mystictrunks - Approved
Gaara(Post skip,Pre-extraction) - Naruto
Steel(John henry) - Various DC comics
Static-Static Shock(milestone comics)

9
Depressed - Approved
-Yuu Kanda (D Gray Man)
-Legato Bluesummers (Trigun Maximum)
-Soi Fon (Bleach)

10
implosion - Approved
-Shun (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ikki (pre-sanctuary arc, Saint Seiya)
-Ranma (Ranma 1/2)

11
Kazuma the Shell Bullet - Approved
-Aizen (Bleach)- Abilities too hax?
-Toxin (Marvel)
-Yondaime (Naruto)

12
Doombringer - Approved
-Hakufu Sonsaku (Ikkitousen)
-Mink (Dragon Half)
-Akutabi Gamma (Zombie Powder)

13
Darklyre - Approved
-Layla Miller (Marvel-616, post-Decimation)
-Susan Richards (Marvel Zombies, pre-destruction by Ult. Reed Richards)
-Black Alice (DC, post-OYL)


14
typeZERO - Approved
-Sesshomaru (Inuyasha)
-Grimmjow (Bleach)
-Ulquiorra (Bleach)


15
Code - Approved
-Calipha (One Piece)
-Kirin (666 Satan)
-Kurapica (Hunter x Hunter)

16
ezxx - Approved
-Ubogin(HxH)
-Kurogane(Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles)
-Hisoka(HxH)

17
Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk - Approved
-Elijah Snow(Planetary)
-Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)
-Kagiroi Tetsuhito(TenTen)

18
Ryoma Echizen - Approved
Deidara (Naruto)
Naruto w/ 4 Tails (Naruto)
Amidamaru w/ Murasame (Shaman King)

19
Evil Moogle - Approved
-Rogue (Marvel/X-Men), In her current, but healthy form (Sunfire Powers)
-Sage (Marvel/New Excalibur)
-Mimic (Marvel/Exiles/Earth-12), (Prior to events of Exiles 37)

20
Kagutsuchi - Approved
-Guyver (Without Megasmasher) (Guyver)
-Hao Asakura (Shaman King)
-Ishida (Bleach)




21
4thandnaruto - Approved
Nidaime Hokage (Naruto)
Yoruichi Shihouin (Bleach)
Ishiyumi Tessen (Tenjou Tenge)

22
April Vacation - Approved
-Setsuna Sakurazaki (Negima)
-Feitan - (HxH)
-Kakuzu (Naruto)

23
Berwyn - Approved
Shin Natsume(TenTen)
Uchiha Itachi(Naruto)
Sylar(Heroes)

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 10:39 PM
24
Bjuukage - Pending
Zolo (One Piece) - OP is banned
Jack (Samurai Jack)
Hidan (Naruto)

25
mister napolean - Pending
-Juggernaut(Marvel) - Way to strong
-Irvine (Berserk)
-Spiderman(Iron Suit, Marvel) - I need to over the specs of his suit.

26
Kuya - Pending @ you can make a case and plea for the judges if Iron Man should be allowed.
Nightcrawler (Marvel, Age of Apocalypse)
Iron Man (Marvel, 616) - High Mid Tier - Exceeds city block busting
War Machine (Marvel, 616) - High Mid Tier - Exceeds city block busting

27
Spectre - Pending
-Alucard (Hellsing)
-Aokiji (One Piece) OP is banned
-Kaku (One Piece) OP is banned

28
Aldric - I am not sure if I want to allow Bastard characters. Ill get back to you.
-Ede Ee (Bastard!!)
-Gally (Gunnm Last Order)
-Ninja Master Gara (Bastard!!)

29
Kaname
Leeria
Killy
Shiki Tonho Prime

30
Id - I have not made my mind up >.<
Ian Nottingham (Top Cow - Witchblade)
~Having Witchbalde and The Darkness Siphoned~

Midnighter (Wildstorm - The Authority)

Psylocke (Marvel - X-Men) - Keep in mind this is the semi classic one. Not the current one.
Teleporting, Telepathy, Psy blade

Taleran
05-08-2007, 10:41 PM
wait wait I need that final question asked if Shizuka's Vaccum is too powerful

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 10:48 PM
Black Alice does not really break any rules. She happens to be capable of sucking up anything of mystic nature regardless of how powerful or distance. But that just happens to be her ability.

In a match ware there are no mystic being, artifacts etc.. (as in magic nature), she is almost powerless. it’s a double edged sword.


Goku - the chick can summon spirits. But there is a technicality, it seems to be limited only to her verse.
In a neutral verse would she be capable of doing such things?? That’s something for you to debate in a match, if it gets brought up.

For know I approve of Schierke.

Genis-Vell
05-08-2007, 10:49 PM
wait wait I need that final question asked if Shizuka's Vaccum is too powerful

Oh sorry, can you provide me with the manga or comic title. And possibly a brief explanation?

Code
05-08-2007, 10:50 PM
wait wait I need that final question asked if Shizuka's Vaccum is too powerful
I don't see how it will break the rules, in terms of affecting the living body, it only sucks in blood, not really transmuting it or anything. Though on that note, wouldn't Kujaku's ability fall under that?

I'll have to change Calipha from team though

Taleran
05-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Nen Ability - Deme-chan (Blinky): Shizuku uses her nen to create a self-styled vacuum cleaner she names "Deme-chan" that is able to consume any inanimate matter under her command. This has proven very useful in many occasions for cleaning up evidence that the members leave behind, especially blood and dead corpses. Anything sucked up into her vacuum cleaner cannot be retrieved, except for the last material that was sucked in.

http://mangarun.com/hunter_x_hunter/Hunter_X_Hunter_228/HunterXHunter228-p01.png
http://mangarun.com/hunter_x_hunter/Hunter_X_Hunter_228/HunterXHunter228-p02.png


basically she can just name a bodily fluid as long as they have open wounds with direct access to it.

atom
05-08-2007, 10:59 PM
Update since OP is banned.

Bjuukage
Venom (Spiderman) -
Jack (Samurai Jack)
Hidan (Naruto)

Taleran
05-08-2007, 11:08 PM
ehh screw it i'll just use Phinx


Final Team

Taleran
1. Alexander Anderson w/ Nail (Hellsing)
2. Bruno Buccarati (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
3. Phinx (Hunter X Hunter)



and I think a good idea would be to make a team thread, where everyone gets one post to post everything they can find about they're 3 characters as used for reference throughout the tournament.

The Internet
05-08-2007, 11:13 PM
Kaku is far from breaking the limits. I'll replace aokiji.

Blaze of Glory
05-08-2007, 11:16 PM
Eeeeeeeeeeeeey what's up bitches? Am I too late? :amuse

Here's my team for the tournament. Hopefully, they aren't too powerful

KOS-MOS (Xenosaga ) *In her Xenosaga III form*

Son Goku (Saiyuki)

Inuyasha (Inuyasha) (Current manga techniques)


Though I'm not sure If I'm completely 100% sure if I want them to be my team so I can change them until we completely star this tourney right?

Taleran
05-08-2007, 11:18 PM
1 no just VG characters
2 I don't know the other 2 so I'll leave that to someone else

Thanatos
05-08-2007, 11:44 PM
2 I don't know the other 2 so I'll leave that to someone else

Inu Yasha is fine to my knowledge. But I've never read Saiyuki so I can't comment there.

Blaze of Glory
05-08-2007, 11:46 PM
1 no just VG characters
2 I don't know the other 2 so I'll leave that to someone else

KOS-MOS is an anime character too just in case you didn't know.

The Internet
05-08-2007, 11:49 PM
KOS-MOS is an anime character too just in case you didn't know.

I guess the Manga and Comic's only thing is hard to read.


And Son Goku from Saiyuki is WAY to strong.

Green Lantern
05-08-2007, 11:51 PM
I'll make updates to the team list sometime in the next hour when I can be bothered :P

The Internet
05-08-2007, 11:57 PM
Anywho

Alucard
Kaku (seriously, far from unstoppable, his largest feat was cutting a giant stone tower in half)
Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Blaze of Glory
05-09-2007, 12:06 AM
I guess the Manga and Comic's only thing is hard to read.


And Son Goku from Saiyuki is WAY to strong.

You make it sound as if his powers reach DBZ levels also that's for Taleran and Id to judge.


But If he says so I,ll change.

The Internet
05-09-2007, 12:09 AM
He could take on pre saiyen saga goku.

Thanatos
05-09-2007, 12:13 AM
You make it sound as if his powers reach DBZ levels also that's for Taleran and Id to judge.

Taleran actually has no say in this (no offense meant). He's not a judge.

Blaze of Glory
05-09-2007, 12:14 AM
He could take on pre saiyen saga goku.

That's DB NOT DBZ plus, during that saga Goku was hardly able to cause the destruction of an entire planet much less anything Inuyasha or KOS-MOS could compare to. If anything that makes him a weakling compared to my other characters or anybody else's.

Edit:

So who gives me the word to change?

Besides Id?

Son Goku can't be that powerful especially if he's weaker then pre-saiyan saga Goku.

The Internet
05-09-2007, 12:16 AM
And DB isn't allowed either.

And like I said, anime isn't allowed

Code
05-09-2007, 12:20 AM
Pre-Saiyan Saga Goku definitely breaks the limits. Though I've read most of the first series of Saiyuki and Son Goku (Saiyuki) doesn't break any of the limits. That that might likely change towards the end and in the sequels.

Thanatos
05-09-2007, 12:22 AM
So who gives me the word to change?

Besides Id?

radishbak, cbg, I'm not sure who else is a judge.

Probably "Seth & Nuku" or "Code" would be the person to make this particular call.

Blaze of Glory
05-09-2007, 12:31 AM
Pre-Saiyan Saga Goku definitely breaks the limits. Though I've read most of the first series of Saiyuki and Son Goku (Saiyuki) doesn't break any of the limits. That that might likely change towards the end and in the sequels.


Alright, so do I get rid of him or can I keep him?

Thanatos
05-09-2007, 12:36 AM
Alright, so do I get rid of him or can I keep him?

That means you can keep him

The Internet
05-09-2007, 12:38 AM
I still highly disagree with that. He's top tier DB level.

Code
05-09-2007, 12:41 AM
Alright, so do I get rid of him or can I keep him?
In the first series or the gaiden he didn't break any of the rules (from what I recall). But that's not taken into account his immortality whose extent wasn't fully established at least in regards to taking damage, so he might very well break that limit.

Though I haven't read Reload yet, so I suppose it's best for Seth & Nuku or someone else who knows a lot about him to confirm that.

mystictrunks
05-09-2007, 12:49 AM
Xenosaga had a manga IIRC . . .

EvilMoogle
05-09-2007, 12:57 AM
Xenosaga had a manga IIRC . . .

Quoteth Wikipedia:
Xenosaga: The Manga

In 2004, an official Japanese manga adaptation for the series was written by Atsushi Baba and serialized in Monthly Comic Zero Sum. As of 2006, Baba has finished development of Episode I's adaptation and is currently working on Episode II. It is believed that the manga will focus more closely on character development rather than scientific, religious jargon and mysterious shadow games much like with the Neon Genesis Evangelion manga.[citation needed]

Dunno anything about this manga though. But from the Anime and the cutscenes of the games KOS-MOS is way above the powerscale.

KOS-MOS makes her move at around 4:45.
f_VZMLfAY7Q

Genis-Vell
05-09-2007, 12:59 AM
radishbak, cbg, I'm not sure who else is a judge.

Probably "Seth & Nuku" or "Code" would be the person to make this particular call.

Vynjira
Havoc
Evilmoogle
radish back
Code
Keollyn (aka Seth and Naku)

Blaze of Glory
05-09-2007, 01:29 AM
Quoteth Wikipedia:


Dunno anything about this manga though. But from the Anime and the cutscenes of the games KOS-MOS is way above the powerscale.

KOS-MOS makes her move at around 4:45.
f_VZMLfAY7Q

So you want me to remove her?

If that's the case can I replace her with Ryu from the Street Fighter comics?

Bolt Crank
05-09-2007, 01:56 AM
Sailor Saturn (Sailor Moon)
Devilman (Devilman)
Sakura Kinomoto (Cardcaptor Sakura)

Code
05-09-2007, 02:00 AM
Wouldn't most if not all of them surpass the limits?

Rules
Banned - Speed Force Users (Flash >_<)
Banned - Reality Bending
Banned - Time Manipulation
Banned - Actual (Shin/True) Immortality (Lobo, Deadpool etc..)
Banned - Matter Manipulation/Transmutation.
*You can not effect your opponent directly.
*The environment and yourself is fine.

Banned - Absolute Invulnerability (Sasquash, Dark Urizen, Classic Juggernaut)
Banned - No death touches/stares/blasts/etc (Saint Of Killers and others)

Speed - No fluid movements that exceed Mach 10 (around
Power - Nothing that exceeds City Block leveling/busting
Strength - Nothing That exceeds class 100
Durability - Nothing that exceeds CONSTANLY tanking class 100 blows, or City Block Busters