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The Nameless Pharaoh
04-24-2007, 03:37 PM
All the characters, bosses and enemies from each verse.

Which verse wins ?

EVERYTHING is allowed.

Taleran
04-24-2007, 03:39 PM
God of War


1. more characters

2. they're gods

3. see 2

4. see 3

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-24-2007, 03:42 PM
God of War


1. more characters

2. they're gods

3. see 2

4. see 3

1- My good sir, numbers are not everything.

2- DMC has gods too.

3- See 2.

4- See 3.

Taleran
04-24-2007, 03:44 PM
in this fight I think the numbers would help


Atlas
Gaia
Zeus
Kratos


vs.

Mundus (everyone else is chump change to him)......yeah thats REAL FAIR

Birkin
04-24-2007, 03:44 PM
Everything is allowed? Quicksilver all the way! DT mode would nullify Kratos' God powers.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-24-2007, 03:50 PM
in this fight I think the numbers would help


Atlas
Gaia
Zeus
Kratos


vs.

Mundus (everyone else is chump change to him)......yeah thats REAL FAIR

Dante and Vergil can handle Kratos, Zeus and Mundus will fight and Sparda can take Gaia on. Atlas would be too busy lifting the island.

I'm still not sure though.

Off topic: GOW 2 was a rip off of Prince of Persia 2. Both character travel to an island to travel back through time and change their fate.

Taleran
04-24-2007, 03:59 PM
except GoW2, you know did it right

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-24-2007, 04:03 PM
^ umm...what ?

Comic Book Guy
04-24-2007, 04:47 PM
As far as I know, God of Wars deities actually holds up to that bargain, as oppose to DMC's Mundus, Argosax the Chaos, and Despair Embodied.

Dante
04-24-2007, 05:34 PM
Depends, can the gods in GOW be killed? as far as I knoww Kratos took down Ares at the end of GOW and I consider that the power level in the DMC verse is considerably higher than the one in the GOWverse...

Pein
04-24-2007, 05:57 PM
god of war they have the god's and the titan's

Purgatory
04-24-2007, 06:48 PM
This does mean the high-tier demons/devils are allowed, even Arius, Trish, and Lucia?

Tears
04-24-2007, 08:43 PM
DMC all the way. DMC has stronger people and demons.

Purgatory
04-24-2007, 09:24 PM
DMC all the way. DMC has stronger people and demons.

Word of advice: Don't just say who you thinks wins. At least try to give a logical explanation of why you think they win.

As of now, I'm not so sure, since I don't know how fast the Gods are. If Dante is able to use all weapons/styles/guns/forms, as well as Vergil being able to use all forms, his Summoned Swords at the highest level, and the three weapons, it would be an interesting battle. Thing is, the Sparda brothers are able to instantaneously teleport nearby their foes (This is thanks to Dante's level 3 Trickster Style and Vergil's DarkSlayer Style). The others might have a bit of a tight situation, seeing as they don't have that kind of speed (the teleportation bit, just to freshen some minds). Although not having it, their speed and reaction time is quite above the average humans. All I know is that the lower tier demons get slaughtered by Kratos, not so sure about the armies since they're just mortal beings. Also, take into account that if Dante is able to use everything from all of the games, he could just go into the limitless DT form and use Quicksilver to either:

A.) Entirely stop time itself (If cutscenes are allowed)

Or..

B.) Slow down time incredibly (I'm almost certain it works on bosses too. This is also gameplay-only).

Remember, in their devil forms, the Sparda twins are faster, stronger, able to take more damage, and their stamina rises dramatically. Even in human form Dante was stabbed by swords countless times, shot in the skull twice, was surprised by another devil and took a whooping, and can indefinitely and nearly rival his twins power, had he not been so cocky and careless. Vergil is very witty, yet keeps his guard up. With his kind of speed, he can slice at far away distances (Judgement Cut), throw Force Edge at the enemy like a boomerang, and use Summoned Swords to either guard himself, or he could send them at the enemy, firing one after another. I'm also sure that Vergil's way of fighting could confuse Kratos, not saying he would stand about like a moron and take the hits.

Jester is one I'm not too particular of. It seems that in his devil form, that he can instantaneously teleport as well (the scene where Dante keeps firing at Jester after the second Vergil fight). As for Mundus and Sparda, I'm pretty sure most know of their feats.

But I digress, the God of War verse seems very powerful with its Gods, the man who took down Ares with the Blades of Chaos, and pretty much more Gods. To be more fair and unbiased, this match may be more of a toss-up for me, since I don't have as much information on the GoW games. With all respect towards God of War, I'm slightly leaning more along the sides of the DMCverse and their capabilities.

Crimson Dragoon
04-24-2007, 09:31 PM
I'm just here to say that in the second God of War game, Kratos also has a slow-down-time thing going for him with his Amulet of the Fates. This may be able to turn the tides quite a bit.

Anyways, like Corrupt Vergil says, this battle does seem like to be a toss up because both sides have powerful beings such as Mundus, Ares, Zeus, and Sparda.

Amaru
04-24-2007, 11:44 PM
It's a draw.

The sheer badass destroys the universe.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 07:10 AM
Here is how it goes:-

1- The Gods will fight the Higher devils of DMC (Mundus, Argosax the Chaos, and Despair Embodied) .
2- The Titans will fight Hell, led by Sparda.
3- Dante and Vergil will fight Kratos.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 07:49 AM
It's a draw.

The sheer badass destroys the universe.Um, God or War Badassness > DMC Badassness. Because in God of War, you get to fuck two women and Beat the shit out of gryphons by ripping their wings off. DMC, it's like a a shonen/sennin video game with the most chicle corny badassness rather than the get to the point badassness that I like. Plus I don't like Dante's or Vegils goddamn banter about them being teh win. That is so anime.:notrust

Oh and God of War wins, Kratos kills them with Blade of Artemis and scewers the Lamedar Bros.

Birkin
04-25-2007, 07:52 AM
Um, God or War Badassness > DMC Badassness. Because in God of War, you get to fuck two women and Beat the shit out of gryphons by ripping their wings off. DMC, it's like a a shonen/sennin video game with the most chicle corny badassness rather than the get to the point badassness that I like. Plus I don't like Dante's or Vegils goddamn banter about them being teh win. That is so anime.:notrust

Oh and God of War wins, Kratos kills them with Blade of Artemis and scewers the Lamedar Bros.

Are you serious? DMC Badassness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW Badassness. Kratos is fugly and needs to die.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 07:56 AM
Are you serious? DMC Badassness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW Badassness. Kratos is fugly and needs to die.Dante's a girly man and a bishi, Kratos is pure man and total rawness.

Kratos > Dante.

God of War > Devil May Cry.

None of kratoses games have sucked and the New DMC is with a N00b. WTF?

Dante's lacks hatred, Kratos doesn't shown in as repping the head off a gorgon.:laugh

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 01:16 PM
Dante's a girly man and a bishi, Kratos is pure man and total rawness.

Kratos > Dante.

God of War > Devil May Cry.

None of kratoses games have sucked and the New DMC is with a N00b. WTF?

Dante's lacks hatred, Kratos doesn't shown in as repping the head off a gorgon.:laugh

Did you know that Dante owns a weapon that was once a woman? You know, that guitar/schythe weapon thing. That was once a woman.

And the fact that he is constantly fingering a woman while at the same time, molesting demons indicates that he is more badass than Kratos will ever be.

None of kratoses games have sucked

The only thing that disappointed me in GOW2 was that it was too short. I finished it in less than a day.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 01:23 PM
Are you serious? DMC Badassness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW Badassness. Kratos is fugly and needs to die.

1.while dante was riding a missile and saying ''WhoO!!! Yeah baby!!"

Kratos was too busy dying and climbing his way back from hell

2.Kratos badassness > times 100 Dante badassness.

3.Pretty boy + childish hippie wisecracks doesn't equal badass

4.gow owns dmc as an overall game

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 01:25 PM
^ Read above. Besides, Dante's home is hell.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Dante's Quotes:you wreck my shop!I didn't even name it!I hope you all have money to pay for this for this?!

Its time to party!

Need I go on.

1.He looks like a male stripper
2.Dante is a pussy.

3.vergil in the other hand...


Oh and Ive played and beat all dmcs. not once have Ive seen him actually living there. Kratos is a god and Nails giant mythical creatures to walls

Oh and kratos sleeps with a bed full of women everyday

ghost of sparda >son of sparda

sorry im so critical to dmc but gow gets ripped unbiasly by dmc fanboys

Edit I Also like to point out that that the normal version of dmc 3 is hard in japanese version.Put it on easy and you can bust it down
in two days. Also the other modes aren't hard if you know the mechanics well

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 01:38 PM
He doesn't have to live there. He is half-devil, which means that being in hell isn't a problem at all.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Did you know that Dante owns a weapon that was once a woman? You know, that guitar/schythe weapon thing. That was once a woman.

And the fact that he is constantly fingering a woman while at the same time, molesting demons indicates that he is more badass than Kratos will ever be.



The only thing that disappointed me in GOW2 was that it was too short. I finished it in less than a day.That woman was the worst demon ever and that sythe/guitar wepaon is totally weak. Dante's a fucking fag, he wears a man bra and fucking twirls his guns like some gay stripper man. Kratos beats the hell out of a Minotaur that puts him above the badass ladder pretty high. When had Dante fingered a woman, let alone two women like kratos? Never.

GOW2 is the best game I've ever played since Super Mario Bros and Xenosaga episode 1. DMC was hard, frustrting, and repetitive, God of War had Reply and and the combos were win.


God of War > Devil May cry.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 01:44 PM
He doesn't have to live there. He is half-devil, which means that being in hell isn't a problem at all.

Ahem read all my above post. If that doesn't prove kratos is more badass i don't know what will.

@Above poster^ I wouldn't go that far dmc has better action and combos.But yeah every thing else pales in comoparison to gow(music characters storyline. etc)

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 01:45 PM
He doesn't have to live there. He is half-devil, which means that being in hell isn't a problem at all.Dante would be a pansy in Hell if he lived there, Vergil has the balls to be their dante's a poser.

Plus Ancient Greece was Hell to, for a sparda. Spardas > any Demon.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 01:49 PM
When had Dante fingered a woman, let alone two women like kratos? Never.

When I said that he is fingering a woman, I meant that he was using the guitar. The woman is the guitar weapon and he is fingering the guitar, which means that he's fingering the woman.

Birkin
04-25-2007, 01:56 PM
How can you say GOW is a better game than DMC? The characters in DMC is far better than GOW characters. DMC characters provide fun and originality in a game, while GOW focuses on old Gods like they have no brains to think of a game with a storyline not including that exists in real life.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 01:56 PM
When I said that he is fingering a woman, I meant that he was using the guitar. The woman is the guitar weapon and he is fingering the guitar, which means that he's fingering the woman.No not the same and still not badass, when I see him with two women in the bed and him getting some punny. He's a cunt compared to Kratos, plus Kratos is a god killer, he'll make Mundus lick his ghost face nuts. He can just go to hell and rapestomp every single demon plus Mundus and Sparda himself. Since Gaia > Sparda.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Prove that Sparda can't beat Gaia.

Oh, I don't care who is more badass since I made this thread to have them fight. Badassness doesn't make you win in a fight.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 02:18 PM
How can you say GOW is a better game than DMC? The characters in DMC is far better than GOW characters. DMC characters provide fun and originality in a game, while GOW focuses on old Gods like they have no brains to think of a game with a storyline not including that exists in real life.Lets see most of the side characters were chicks, that dante never slept with. Dante is a mix of shonen heroes and shonen anti heroes all in one generically obvious fan service I'd like to call.........Bishi's gone badass Trish she mediorce but still cute, because she's his mother's clone. Lucia sucked ass, and Lady was fugly as sin. Vergil is the only character that rocked and had a decent personality, the bald headed guy was so lame and cliched it was not funny, Sparda was just not interesting, he's a plot device just like Gold D Roger and Kyuubi no kitsune from Naruto. Kratos is the man, he was so damn in depht it wasn't funny, plus with his personality he doesn't need other characters to appeal, he is the whole damn game. Ares was a complex villan and a major player in kratoses life he was the best villain ina game imo since he actually is a despicable bastard unlike Mundus who just genericly rules hell in a boring way, he ruined Kratos's life, and he made kratos into a mindless killer. Thats top notch villany, not some agrosax. Athena is just as appealing as Lady, and the Orcle was annoying, okay she is annoying. The AI IMO is more interesting than characters in DMC with devolpment. Dude, it's not a matter of which characters are fun, it's how they're portrayed, so far Dante's is just some cocky gary stu badass who takes the fun out of being a total conflicted character. Kratos is more human, Dante's a fantasy camp hero. Kratos has fought through hell and been in total shit all his life. So he keeps fighting, Dante is just some random demon slayer who hangs out at an Shop with all the pizza he can eat while some bitch tells him to get off his ass and start fighting demons, I'd take Kratos story over Dantes.

And all the rest you've just said opinion. God of War sells more and is more popular than DMC, it got perfect scores. While DMC gets 8 out of 10. On Ign God of War is the #1 action game for the PS2, what is Devil May Cry?

God of War > Devil May Cry. The Amount of Chracters don't matter in a game the gameplay matters in a game. So far God of War's gameplay trumps DMC's Story GOW, Fun Factor GOW.

Over all The Chain Blades > The Claymore.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 02:24 PM
On topic, Kratos has athena's and the god blessing so if he gets all the powers of olmpus than it's God of War FTW. I have't [lay DMC i so long, s I don't know How Dante would fare.

Birkin
04-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Lets see most of the side characters were chicks, that dante never slept with. Dante is a mix of shonen heroes and shonen anti heroes all in one generically obvious fan service I'd like to call.........Bishi's gone badass Trish she mediorce but still cute, because she's his mother's clone. Lucia sucked ass, and Lady was fugly as sin. Vergil is the only character that rocked and had a decent personality, the bald headed guy was so lame and cliched it was not funny, Sparda was just not interesting, he's a plot device just like Gold D Roger and Kyuubi no kitsune from Naruto. Kratos is the man, he was so damn in depht it wasn't funny, plus with his personality he doesn't need other characters to appeal, he is the whole damn game. Ares was a complex villan and a major player in kratoses life he was the best villain ina game imo since he actually is a despicable bastard unlike Mundus who just genericly rules hell in a boring way, he ruined Kratos's life, and he made kratos into a mindless killer. Thats top notch villany, not some agrosax. Athena is just as appealing as Lady, and the Orcle was annoying, okay she is annoying. The AI IMO is more interesting than characters in DMC with devolpment. Dude, it's not a matter of which characters are fun, it's how they're portrayed, so far Dante's is just some cocky gary stu badass who takes the fun out of being a total conflicted character. Kratos is more human, Dante's a fantasy camp hero. Kratos has fought through hell and been in total shit all his life. So he keeps fighting, Dante is just some random demon slayer who hangs out at an Shop with all the pizza he can eat while some bitch tells him to get off his ass and start fighting demons, I'd take Kratos story over Dantes.

And all the rest you've just said opinion. God of War sells more and is more popular than DMC, it got perfect scores. While DMC gets 8 out of 10. On Ign God of War is the #1 action game for the PS2, what is Devil May Cry?

God of War > Devil May Cry. The Amount of Chracters don't matter in a game the gameplay matters in a game. So far God of War's gameplay trumps DMC's Story GOW, Fun Factor GOW.

Over all The Chain Blades > The Claymore.

Have you played Devil May Cry 1? this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_1kETIVweo) is one example of what happens. Pure badassness. And for the record, GOW got a 9,3/10 by Gamespot while old games such as Metal Gear Solid 2 got a 10/10.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Have you played Devil May Cry 1? this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_1kETIVweo) is one example of what happens. Pure badassness. And for the record, GOW got a 9,3/10 by Gamespot while old games such as Metal Gear Solid 2 got a 10/10.

Kratos gets impaled by a tree,dies and climbs out of hell to kick aries ass.If you played gow one you would know that.


And plus The dmc characters are typical anime stereotypes.

Taleran
04-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Kratos level of Badassness > DMC 1 Dante > DMC 3 Dante > Vergil > DMC2 Dante


that is all.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 03:50 PM
Have you played Devil May Cry 1? this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_1kETIVweo) is one example of what happens. Pure badassness. And for the record, GOW got a 9,3/10 by Gamespot while old games such as Metal Gear Solid 2 got a 10/10.So? IGN > Gamespot, besides God of wart for Ign and Gamespy got 10/10 and 9.8 out of 10. Bigger number.

Kratos got impaled by a fucking stake and he wen to hell to kick ass.

Taleran
04-25-2007, 03:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YBl0QJERQ


GoW2 Spoilers

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 04:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YBl0QJERQ


GoW2 Spoilers

Thats a thread closer

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-25-2007, 04:28 PM
Thats a thread closer

This thread is not about badassness.

Taleran
04-25-2007, 04:34 PM
it deviated that way and I was merely ending that side of the thread.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 06:08 PM
Vergils level of Badassness > DMC 1 Dante > Kratos > DMC3 Dante

that is all.

Fixed. Also, excess blood =/= badass in some cases. Now, if you want badass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiX8gLuSgwE

Since you intend to become bias as well, I suppose I should turn my bias aura on to counter yours.

Crimson Dragoon
04-25-2007, 06:23 PM
I prefer the scene where he cuts Beowulf apart without any effort at all. I'm surprised you didn't respond with those kickass Vergil combo videos.

dommyman18
04-25-2007, 06:36 PM
Fixed. Also, excess blood =/= badass in some cases. Now, if you want badass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiX8gLuSgwE

Since you intend to become bias as well, I suppose I should turn my bias aura on to counter yours.Dude, you whorship Vergil to much, he's just a video game character, jeeze.

Plus I have to disagree, Kratos beats Vergil in that to.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jo3Fl9BntaM

azngamer87
04-25-2007, 07:25 PM
God of war takes this because the of the sister of fate. They can just make it that god of war are destined to win or they can just cut the strings of all devil may cry charc. thus erasing their existence.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 07:26 PM
I prefer the scene where he cuts Beowulf apart without any effort at all. I'm surprised you didn't respond with those kickass Vergil combo videos.

You want 'em? You got 'em..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3lkl0DYxVY

If you think that's not amazing, I don't know what is.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Dude, you whorship Vergil to much, he's just a video game character, jeeze.

Plus I have to disagree, Kratos beats Vergil in that to.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jo3Fl9BntaM

Hrmph, Vergil has taken down a monster around that size with ease. Hell, he even used part of Beowulf against him to rid of the trash that Dante could not kill.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 07:37 PM
God of war takes this because the of the sister of fate. They can just make it that god of war are destined to win or they can just cut the strings of all devil may cry charc. thus erasing their existence.

What's the point of even trying to kill them if their battle speed includes instantaneous teleportation?

azngamer87
04-25-2007, 07:47 PM
What's the point of even trying to kill them if their battle speed includes instantaneous teleportation?

That may be but with power of the fate Kratos can go back in time before the battle begins and cut their strings. Show me proof that they have instantaneous teleportation.

Triggerhappy69
04-25-2007, 07:55 PM
Christ, this thread again?

Dante vs Kratos would be an awesome fight, we all know this. Why? Because both contain godly powers, and are both uber awesome.

But if it came down to Dante's world vs Kratos's world, I think Kratos's would win. Dante's foes are very admirable, but Kratos's foes are usually Titan's or God's. I think the only characters in Devil May Cry that are on god like levels are Sparda, Dante, and Vergil, while God of War has pretty much over 10.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 09:05 PM
That may be but with power of the fate Kratos can go back in time before the battle begins and cut their strings. Show me proof that they have instantaneous teleportation.

Question is: Can he do it before he's instantly speedblitzed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k

You see those blue flashes? That's instantaneous teleportation. They can do it anytime they please, and it doesn't even take a though to activate it. If you're nearby an enemy, you can teleport near them.

Crimson Dragoon
04-25-2007, 09:25 PM
You want 'em? You got 'em..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3lkl0DYxVY

If you think that's not amazing, I don't know what is.

Thanks for the vid. That player is awesome and those combos are great but it's too bad Youtube makes the video quality crap. DMC 3 really has a great combat system which allows awesomeness like this to flourish.

As for this battle, I say again this fight could go either way because of the sheer number of beings involved and their power levels. Zeus vs Mundus would be a pretty good fight IMO.

Purgatory
04-25-2007, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the vid. That player is awesome and those combos are great but it's too bad Youtube makes the video quality crap. DMC 3 really has a great combat system which allows awesomeness like this to flourish.

As for this battle, I say again this fight could go either way because of the sheer number of beings involved and their power levels. Zeus vs Mundus would be a pretty good fight IMO.

Pretty much most of those videos show off their maximum potential, if you're the right player for it anyways. Even I couldn't do those attacks that fast, and I'm a rather formidibale player with Vergil.

azngamer87
04-25-2007, 10:04 PM
I will admit that teleportation is fast, but is it faster then light. Also that teleportation seems to be limited to how far it can go. If that teleportation is not faster then light krastos will win.

Crimson Dragoon
04-25-2007, 10:14 PM
You don't need to be FTL to speedblitz Kratos. And this is coming from a big GoW fanboy. I am more than willing to admit Kratos would get blitzed by Vergil and the only thing that might save him is his damage soak or his Amulet of the Fates.

Tears
04-25-2007, 10:17 PM
Word of advice: Don't just say who you thinks wins. At least try to give a logical explanation of why you think they win.

As of now, I'm not so sure, since I don't know how fast the Gods are. If Dante is able to use all weapons/styles/guns/forms, as well as Vergil being able to use all forms, his Summoned Swords at the highest level, and the three weapons, it would be an interesting battle. Thing is, the Sparda brothers are able to instantaneously teleport nearby their foes (This is thanks to Dante's level 3 Trickster Style and Vergil's DarkSlayer Style). The others might have a bit of a tight situation, seeing as they don't have that kind of speed (the teleportation bit, just to freshen some minds). Although not having it, their speed and reaction time is quite above the average humans. All I know is that the lower tier demons get slaughtered by Kratos, not so sure about the armies since they're just mortal beings. Also, take into account that if Dante is able to use everything from all of the games, he could just go into the limitless DT form and use Quicksilver to either:

A.) Entirely stop time itself (If cutscenes are allowed)

Or..

B.) Slow down time incredibly (I'm almost certain it works on bosses too. This is also gameplay-only).

Remember, in their devil forms, the Sparda twins are faster, stronger, able to take more damage, and their stamina rises dramatically. Even in human form Dante was stabbed by swords countless times, shot in the skull twice, was surprised by another devil and took a whooping, and can indefinitely and nearly rival his twins power, had he not been so cocky and careless. Vergil is very witty, yet keeps his guard up. With his kind of speed, he can slice at far away distances (Judgement Cut), throw Force Edge at the enemy like a boomerang, and use Summoned Swords to either guard himself, or he could send them at the enemy, firing one after another. I'm also sure that Vergil's way of fighting could confuse Kratos, not saying he would stand about like a moron and take the hits.

Jester is one I'm not too particular of. It seems that in his devil form, that he can instantaneously teleport as well (the scene where Dante keeps firing at Jester after the second Vergil fight). As for Mundus and Sparda, I'm pretty sure most know of their feats.

But I digress, the God of War verse seems very powerful with its Gods, the man who took down Ares with the Blades of Chaos, and pretty much more Gods. To be more fair and unbiased, this match may be more of a toss-up for me, since I don't have as much information on the GoW games. With all respect towards God of War, I'm slightly leaning more along the sides of the DMCverse and their capabilities.


Well i dont want to give a essay why but kratos wouldnt even hit dante or vergil in his life, they get pierced with swords and live, he gets pierced and dies. The gods are weak and overrated just because theyre called "gods". Dante has everything to counter anything from GOW and vergil nelo angelo and his dt so its all gravy.

Tears
04-25-2007, 10:24 PM
That woman was the worst demon ever and that sythe/guitar wepaon is totally weak. Dante's a fucking fag, he wears a man bra and fucking twirls his guns like some gay stripper man. Kratos beats the hell out of a Minotaur that puts him above the badass ladder pretty high. When had Dante fingered a woman, let alone two women like kratos? Never.

GOW2 is the best game I've ever played since Super Mario Bros and Xenosaga episode 1. DMC was hard, frustrting, and repetitive, God of War had Reply and and the combos were win.


God of War > Devil May cry.

I hope your joking, GOW2 is nothing special, neither GOW.

Tears
04-25-2007, 10:29 PM
Lets see most of the side characters were chicks, that dante never slept with. Dante is a mix of shonen heroes and shonen anti heroes all in one generically obvious fan service I'd like to call.........Bishi's gone badass Trish she mediorce but still cute, because she's his mother's clone. Lucia sucked ass, and Lady was fugly as sin. Vergil is the only character that rocked and had a decent personality, the bald headed guy was so lame and cliched it was not funny, Sparda was just not interesting, he's a plot device just like Gold D Roger and Kyuubi no kitsune from Naruto. Kratos is the man, he was so damn in depht it wasn't funny, plus with his personality he doesn't need other characters to appeal, he is the whole damn game. Ares was a complex villan and a major player in kratoses life he was the best villain ina game imo since he actually is a despicable bastard unlike Mundus who just genericly rules hell in a boring way, he ruined Kratos's life, and he made kratos into a mindless killer. Thats top notch villany, not some agrosax. Athena is just as appealing as Lady, and the Orcle was annoying, okay she is annoying. The AI IMO is more interesting than characters in DMC with devolpment. Dude, it's not a matter of which characters are fun, it's how they're portrayed, so far Dante's is just some cocky gary stu badass who takes the fun out of being a total conflicted character. Kratos is more human, Dante's a fantasy camp hero. Kratos has fought through hell and been in total shit all his life. So he keeps fighting, Dante is just some random demon slayer who hangs out at an Shop with all the pizza he can eat while some bitch tells him to get off his ass and start fighting demons, I'd take Kratos story over Dantes.

And all the rest you've just said opinion. God of War sells more and is more popular than DMC, it got perfect scores. While DMC gets 8 out of 10. On Ign God of War is the #1 action game for the PS2, what is Devil May Cry?

God of War > Devil May Cry. The Amount of Chracters don't matter in a game the gameplay matters in a game. So far God of War's gameplay trumps DMC's Story GOW, Fun Factor GOW.

Over all The Chain Blades > The Claymore.

GOW gameplay trups DMC? ahahahaha i hope your joking. GOW has the weakest gameplay in a action game. I mean the moves are useless and arent even pratical.

King Bookah
04-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Strictly speaking combat wise, DMC shits on GOW in that gameplay department. The combat in DMC is far more responsive and tuned than GOW. Most of the beauty of GOW comes from the WTF elements and epic scope.

But this thread isn't about that, so....................

azngamer87
04-25-2007, 10:34 PM
You don't need to be FTL to speedblitz Kratos. And this is coming from a big GoW fanboy. I am more than willing to admit Kratos would get blitzed by Vergil and the only thing that might save him is his damage soak or his Amulet of the Fates.

If I were you go to youtube and watch the ending for gow 2. It cleary show him turn to lighting when he travel through time.

Crimson Dragoon
04-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Bullshit. The moves are far from useless. The Lance of the Furies is generally a good move for clearing out enemies and giving you space. It doesn't work all the time though as the Satyrs have proven. Apollo's Ascension works best on them.

Plus, can you try and prove to me how the Gods are weak? Ares used only a tiny fraction of his power to demolish an army that tried to massacre the Spartans and Zeus beat down the Titans all by himself.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-25-2007, 11:15 PM
GOW gameplay trups DMC? ahahahaha i hope your joking. GOW has the weakest gameplay in a action game. I mean the moves are useless and arent even pratical.

Weakest gameplay in an action game? hardly. Only ninja gaiden and dmc has better gamplay and its not by much.And i ve played beaten the games in those series

Gow of war also rapestomps both games (especially dmc) in all other aspects of a video game catergories.(Story,music,etc) thats why it gets better reviews


Now as far as this thread goes.I tired of people saying what vergil and dante can do in cutscenes.In actual ghameplay they get kiled in three or four hits.

When ares destroyed army with his mine power(can't find cutscene on youtube)If this is god power kratos.Dante would get killed.And plus Dmmc uses modern technology? why do they always get put in combat with gow

EDIt
I never understood what the big prolbem betewen dmc fans and gow Games?

Is like they were destined to hate and shit on it and refuse to see why the game deserves all the respect it gets

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 12:29 AM
Bullshit. The moves are far from useless. The Lance of the Furies is generally a good move for clearing out enemies and giving you space. It doesn't work all the time though as the Satyrs have proven. Apollo's Ascension works best on them.

Plus, can you try and prove to me how the Gods are weak? Ares used only a tiny fraction of his power to demolish an army that tried to massacre the Spartans and Zeus beat down the Titans all by himself.

Just wondering something...have the ancient Gods been proven to be actual "Gods" themselves? It doesn't really seem so since a human with demi-God powers was able to defeat them. Also, about the earlier post about the speedblitz and damage soaking, If Vergil did change to Beowulf and decided to teleport over to Kratos, one hit would surely do much damage. If he could kill off a mid-high tier demon with his own weapon in only a few hits, I'd rather not imagine how much force Kratos' body would go up against when faced with those gauntlets/grieves.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 12:40 AM
Weakest gameplay in an action game? hardly. Only ninja gaiden and dmc has better gamplay and its not by much.And i ve played beaten the games in those series

Gow of war also rapestomps both games (especially dmc) in all other aspects of a video game catergories.(Story,music,etc) thats why it gets better reviews


Now as far as this thread goes.I tired of people saying what vergil and dante can do in cutscenes.In actual ghameplay they get kiled in three or four hits.

When ares destroyed army with his mine power(can't find cutscene on youtube)If this is god power kratos.Dante would get killed.And plus Dmmc uses modern technology? why do they always get put in combat with gow

EDIt
I never understood what the big prolbem betewen dmc fans and gow Games?

Is like they were destined to hate and shit on it and refuse to see why the game deserves all the respect it gets

I hope you've watched those videos I put up. If you haven't, I recommend it. I just wish to remind you that Dante has taken countless stabs through the chest, and got right back up (Alastor moment is a better example though), he was shot twice right in the forehead by Mary's handgun and dusted it off as if it were a trifle wound. the Sparda twins have rather incredible stamina and durability, and with their transformations, they become even more durable, their strength, speed, stamina, etc. increase. Not sure if you played it, but in DMC3 in the last Vergil battle, Vergil had a "Super DT" form that was impossible to knock him out of (in regular DT form, you could knock him out of it within a few hits from Beowulf).

As for story, GoW is pretty much killing off mythical beasts and gods themselves, whereas DMC might have a rather...more complex storyline.

In battle music...well...have you ever heard of Griffon's boss battles from DMC? I think that song is very fitting for the fight.

Also, reviews =/= how good a game is some of the times.

Please don't think of me as a GoW hater, I really do respect the game. Don't think of me as a biased DMC fanboy either. I try to be as fair as possible, trying to keep my Vergiltard-ness from being unleashed.

P.S. Isn't it odd how the two games are sort've like Bleach fans and OP fans? Or maybe Naruto fans and OP fans?

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-26-2007, 01:57 AM
1.1 have played and beat dmc 1 currently playing 3.

2.I strongly disagree.DMC storyline is not complex at all And your vague generalization of gow tells me you never played let alone beat any of them.


Dmc the music is basically punk rock.And gow dramatical orchestra intensifies the feel

the only thing dmc trumps over gow is gameplay.Gow is not just how many combos you can pull off. Its more of an experience

Now on topic.

I just realized

Isn't God kratos is fucking huge?!He will just step on dante!

azngamer87
04-26-2007, 03:31 AM
As I said before if dante or any devil may cry charc. aren't faster then light gow tale this. Kratos will time travel into the past before the battle begins and cut their strings thus erasing them from existence. Also how will any charc. from devil may cry will be able to stand up to the wielder of the sword of olympus. The S.O.O can kill a god with one hit and if vergil or dante get hit by the S.O.O they will get killed.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-26-2007, 03:34 AM
He can't cut their strings because they are not from his world. Kratos has no power over any DMC character with those strings.

azngamer87
04-26-2007, 03:38 AM
He can't cut their strings because they are not from his world. Kratos has no power over any DMC character with those strings.

You do know that dante and vergil are half human right. Kratos erase dante mother from existence then dante plus vergil would have never existed.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-26-2007, 03:50 AM
Dante's mother is NOT from the GOW universe. Those strings will only work on GOW characters. So yeah, that cheap tactic won't work. Kratos has to fight Dante.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Just wondering something...have the ancient Gods been proven to be actual "Gods" themselves? It doesn't really seem so since a human with demi-God powers was able to defeat them. Also, about the earlier post about the speedblitz and damage soaking, If Vergil did change to Beowulf and decided to teleport over to Kratos, one hit would surely do much damage. If he could kill off a mid-high tier demon with his own weapon in only a few hits, I'd rather not imagine how much force Kratos' body would go up against when faced with those gauntlets/grieves.

For beating Ares, Kratos needed a power-up(Pandora's Box) in order to match his power and defeat him. For Zeus, there was the Blade of Olympus. Kratos also has this nasty habit of defying the odds such as killing the Fates and solving the deadly puzzles of Pandora's Temple. About the Beowulf gauntlets, Kratos can soak up blunt damage better than edged weapons. He did take on the Colossus of Rhodes after all, and threw him off after it tried to step on him. He also crashes into stone pillars at a great velocity(about 60kph) and it doesn't bother him at all.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 05:44 PM
For beating Ares, Kratos needed a power-up(Pandora's Box) in order to match his power and defeat him. For Zeus, there was the Blade of Olympus. Kratos also has this nasty habit of defying the odds such as killing the Fates and solving the deadly puzzles of Pandora's Temple. About the Beowulf gauntlets, Kratos can soak up blunt damage better than edged weapons. He did take on the Colossus of Rhodes after all, and threw him off after it tried to step on him. He also crashes into stone pillars at a great velocity(about 60kph) and it doesn't bother him at all.

Then perhaps one fatal stab with the Yamato should do the trick. unless there's something in Kratos body that doesn't allow penetration.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 05:47 PM
1.1 have played and beat dmc 1 currently playing 3.

2.I strongly disagree.DMC storyline is not complex at all And your vague generalization of gow tells me you never played let alone beat any of them.


Dmc the music is basically punk rock.And gow dramatical orchestra intensifies the feel

the only thing dmc trumps over gow is gameplay.Gow is not just how many combos you can pull off. Its more of an experience

Now on topic.

I just realized

Isn't God kratos is fucking huge?!He will just step on dante!

...Punk...music? Griffon's battle theme was NOT punk, it's a little thing called Metal. You don't need an orchestra to intensify a scene, you could do it with any type of music that gives it an even more intensified feeling.

All GoW is is killing mythical beasts, killing Gods, having sex with women. Seriously, that last part is getting a little old.

Prove this "God" Kratos you speak of.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-26-2007, 05:50 PM
Then perhaps one fatal stab with the Yamato should do the trick. unless there's something in Kratos body that doesn't allow penetration.

Well if Kratos is in his God of War form then he is immortal, I think since they said in the game that after Kratos lost his godly powers, death has power over him.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 06:07 PM
...Punk...music? Griffon's battle theme was NOT punk, it's a little thing called Metal. You don't need an orchestra to intensify a scene, you could do it with any type of music that gives it an even more intensified feeling.

All GoW is is killing mythical beasts, killing Gods, having sex with women. Seriously, that last part is getting a little old.

Prove this "God" Kratos you speak of.

Actually, GoW gives you a good perpective of the world through the character's eyes. At least, that's how I felt. It's all about perspective. No real good, nor evil. Blood, gore, and sex are just icing on the delicious cake that is GoW. Hasty generalizations are not the way to go. Plus, I found the music in Vergil 3 to be the best in the DMC series. Second place is Vergil 2.

I'm a sucker for epic sounding orchestra if you want to know.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-26-2007, 06:17 PM
Prove this "God" Kratos you speak of.


http://www.tv.com/uservideos/?action=video_player&id=K3M2k2aq5bkPuTLc

this would be kratos at his best.Its a cut down version of the intro cutscene

EDit.Also I can tell you never played god war.

Its a shame.

Also here's a link of clips of all the dmc 1 cutscenes.Mundus looks knowhere near threatening

http://www.phantombabies.net/dmc1cutscenes/

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
http://www.tv.com/uservideos/?action=video_player&id=K3M2k2aq5bkPuTLc

this would be kratos at his best.Its a cut down version of the intro cutscene

EDit.Also I can tell you never played god war.

Its a shame.

Also here's a link of clips of all the dmc 1 cutscenes.Mundus looks knowhere near threatening

http://www.phantombabies.net/dmc1cutscenes/

Reminds me of the old saying:

"The bigger you are, the harder you fall"

Also, Mundus should not be counted out. Although Sparda was strong enough to rival Mundus' strength, he was only able to seal him in Mallet Island.Dante with Sparda's power was overall incredible, but as I've said, Mundus himself is very powerful. It's also noted that he was able to fly in the first part of the Mundus fight, along with creating those orbs that shoot out many beams, and that defense mechanism that you had to destroy all of them to harm Mundus. Of course, he also has such incredible strength, and he could should those red beams at Dante in Sparda form.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Actually, GoW gives you a good perpective of the world through the character's eyes. At least, that's how I felt. It's all about perspective. No real good, nor evil. Blood, gore, and sex are just icing on the delicious cake that is GoW. Hasty generalizations are not the way to go. Plus, I found the music in Vergil 3 to be the best in the DMC series. Second place is Vergil 2.

I'm a sucker for epic sounding orchestra if you want to know.

As delicious as it may be, it's not the onle one with such qualities.

crimson darkness
04-26-2007, 08:07 PM
mundus looks a lot stronger than gods in that clip

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-26-2007, 08:10 PM
Sorry I don't see how anyone from dmc would defeat Kratos for that matter form. Aeries in the first game was like this also.Add in the ability to throw thunderbolts. summon souls. And flash freeze people into stone, and you have a near impossible person to beat.

Unless dante Opens pandoras box from gow 1 Dante/vergil/whoever in dmc series would get smashed.

mundus looks a lot stronger than gods in that clip

What?!

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 08:34 PM
Sorry I don't see how anyone from dmc would defeat Kratos for that matter form. Aeries in the first game was like this also.Add in the ability to throw thunderbolts. summon souls. And flash freeze people into stone, and you have a near impossible person to beat.

Unless dante Opens pandoras box from gow 1 Dante/vergil/whoever in dmc series would get smashed.



What?!

Like I said..."The bigger they are, the harder they fall."

Although Kratos in his "God" form is gigantic enough, he'd lose at least some of his speed. And as I've said time and time again, it will not be easy for Kratos to hit the Sparda twins because of their battle speed. Also, if they are able ot work together, they could more than probably take down Kratos, human or demi-god form. When they worked together to kill Arkham with Sparda's power, they seemed to have no quarrels, since he wasn't the one to take all the spotlight.

The twins are very durable, attacking from both long and close range. Dante has his guns, and Vergil has his Summoned Swords and his Judgement Cut. And since he can attack while he summons the Summoned Swords, it'll probably distract/harm Kratos as Vergil goes in for the kill. Do not forget that Vergil doesn't play around, nor is he as oblivious as his twin sibling.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-26-2007, 08:55 PM
1..why is he fighting vergil and dante at the same time?


2.even if kratos is big it doesnt mean he is slow.He's the same guy Just 500 times bigger.

3.He can cast electricity around his body so they can't get near.

4.He he can freeze flash them and turn them to stone.

5.He summons armies of souls that follow you.

6.His has god of war armor. so bullets wouldn't be a problem(hell at that size even without armor those bullets would be like misquito bites.)

7.Ares the guy,the guy kratos beat can fuck with your mind(sorta like an itachi effect) I don't even need to get into what zeus can do.

I think this is enough.dante and vergil at their best would get killed.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 08:58 PM
I don't think the Sparda brothers can hurt God of War Kratos at all since he's pretty huge and has all his magic from the first game, only giant sized. That could be very, very troublesome. The smaller version of God Kratos, the one who was stripped of most of his GoW powers, is a different story.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 09:29 PM
1..why is he fighting vergil and dante at the same time?

They'd realize he could be a possible threat and put aside their sibling rivalry.

2.even if kratos is big it doesnt mean he is slow.He's the same guy Just 500 times bigger.

I somehow don't get the same feeling...

3.He can cast electricity around his body so they can't get near.

They can attack with long range distance attacks then

4.He he can freeze flash them and turn them to stone.

Not if Dante is quick enough to go into Quicksilver mode and slow down/stop time.

5.He summons armies of souls that follow you.

With their incredible stamina, they'll just slice 'em up, or Dante could just use the Grenade Gun/Kalina Ann to literally blow them to bits.

6.His has god of war armor. so bullets wouldn't be a problem(hell at that size even without armor those bullets would be like misquito bites.)

Vergil can just constantly attack with Summoned Swords to dent the armor and even find a weakness (if it has one), and like I've stated with the previous sentence, Dante could use Grenade Gun/Kalina Ann to make a rather...large dent, possibly even push Kratos back.

7.Ares the guy,the guy kratos beat can fuck with your mind(sorta like an itachi effect) I don't even need to get into what zeus can do.

Surprisingly, they're not alone. Although he was weakened from the last fight with Dante, Vergil was somehow possessed by Mundus to be brainwashed and transformed into Nero Angelo. Mundus could probably mindfuck Kratos and control him.

I think this is enough.dante and vergil at their best would get killed.

Need I remind you of their battle speed? They won't just sit around like sitting ducks, waiting to be hit.

crimson darkness
04-26-2007, 09:33 PM
1..why is he fighting vergil and dante at the same time?

doesn't matter if it's the same time, and this is all of dmc against gow. you gotta agree that kratos and gow gods are slower than vergil atleast


2.even if kratos is big it doesnt mean he is slow.He's the same guy Just 500 times bigger.

size=/=everything the skyscraper monster from dmc2 was huge. nearly every dmc boss can be considered huge.


3.He can cast electricity around his body so they can't get near.

dante can do the same with alastar/nevan dt, and so could griffon. dante never had problems getting close to griffon.
if phantom is included in this battle, he's made of magma so no gow chars can get close to him.


4.He he can freeze flash them and turn them to stone.

and dante can use the time baggle and freeze him while cutting him into pieces. or vergil can just disappear and cut him before he moves.


5.He summons armies of souls that follow you.

so could arius from dmc2


6.His has god of war armor. so bullets wouldn't be a problem(hell at that size even without armor those bullets would be like misquito bites.)

too bad dante can just charge up his shots, especially with trish around. instant sealing


7.Ares the guy,the guy kratos beat can fuck with your mind(sorta like an itachi effect) I don't even need to get into what zeus can do.

I think this is enough.dante and vergil at their best would get killed.
and yet he still died from a simple stab from a bigger sword, which the sparda brothers take on a regular basis.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 09:37 PM
It's not that they'll be standing around like retards waiting to be hit, it's just that God Kratos' magic, such as his lightning, covers far too much of the area around him. Even the Sparda brothers aren't quick enough to get away from that. Again, I'm talking about giant God Kratos. I also don't think Mundus can control Kratos at full strength. The only reason he was able to control Vergil was that he was not at full strength becuse of his battle with Dante.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 09:41 PM
It's not that they'll be standing around like retards waiting to be hit, it's just that God Kratos' magic, such as his lightning, covers far too much of the area around him. Even the Sparda brothers aren't quick enough to get away from that. Again, I'm talking about giant God Kratos. I also don't think Mundus can control Kratos at full strength. The only reason he was able to control Vergil was that he was not at full strength becuse of his battle with Dante.

I have two words for the first part of that paragraph:

Instant Teleportation

They can do it continuously without any drawbacksI can tell you it'd be pretty damned hard trying to hit them if they kept moving around

crimson darkness
04-26-2007, 09:43 PM
and area lightning filling was pretty much what nevan/griffon was doing, they both lost to dante.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 09:47 PM
I suppose they can survive the lightning blasts if they can use their speed to get through its gaps. But Kratos may be able to keep it up for a long time and they'll get hit sooner or later if it lasts long enough.

OT: This thread has been pretty interesting, I have to admit. There's a lot of variables that have to be considered and one cannot hastily say that one side wins.

Crimson Dragoon
04-26-2007, 09:49 PM
and area lightning filling was pretty much what nevan/griffon was doing, they both lost to dante.

The God version of Kratos is a lot bigger than Nevan or Griffon, so it's only reasonable to assume that his area filling magic has a far wider radius also.

Purgatory
04-26-2007, 09:53 PM
I suppose they can survive the lightning blasts if they can use their speed to get through its gaps. But Kratos may be able to keep it up for a long time and they'll get hit sooner or later if it lasts long enough.

OT: This thread has been pretty interesting, I have to admit. There's a lot of variables that have to be considered and one cannot hastily say that one side wins.

I forgot to mention...even when Vergil teleports, he can charge up his Yamato to use Judgement Cut, so when Kratos is finished with his magic, Vergil would quickly go into stance and start firing off Judgement Cuts at his face/body.

About that other post, Phantom could probably do some damage. In the first fight with Dante, he would occasionally put his head into the ground, and shoot out flame pillars wherever Dante was, and this is magma/lava we're talking about here, so Kratos might literally become "hot-headed"

triggerc
04-27-2007, 03:51 AM
GoW = button mashing with Kratos until things die, roll around a bit to dodge stuff. And what is this God Mode? It's easier than DMC's normal mode...

DMC = Insane combos, techs, waaaaaaay more refined gameplay engine, and great story (DMC3).

I don't understand how people can say that GoW is a better game.

And for the record Super Sparda = Unlimited DT and regen, you just can't kill him. So everytime Kratos climbs back from hell he just gets sent back again.

Birkin
04-27-2007, 08:55 AM
GoW = button mashing with Kratos until things die, roll around a bit to dodge stuff. And what is this God Mode? It's easier than DMC's normal mode...

DMC = Insane combos, techs, waaaaaaay more refined gameplay engine, and great story (DMC3).

I don't understand how people can say that GoW is a better game.

And for the record Super Sparda = Unlimited DT and regen, you just can't kill him. So everytime Kratos climbs back from hell he just gets sent back again.
This post is the post I've been waiting for. GoW is overrated and deserve a foot up its ass.

dommyman18
04-27-2007, 09:02 AM
This post is the post I've been waiting for. GoW is overrated and deserve a foot up its ass.False GOW > DMC, Kratos can just calll out hades and finsish the the sparda bros. Oh and his posidens rage plus Medusa intance flash gaze would turn them in to stone.

dommyman18
04-27-2007, 09:03 AM
I have two words for the first part of that paragraph:

Instant Teleportation

They can do it continuously without any drawbacksI can tell you it'd be pretty damned hard trying to hit them if they kept moving aroundPosidens rage until they stop, they have a limit to.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-27-2007, 11:50 AM
Are you guys serious.Every god ,titan and hero from gow 1 an 2 versus dmc world? Let me just put a scenerio

Zeus stays above the heavens where he can't be touched and throws lightining bolts at vergil and dante til they die.

SEE! two of the strongest charcters gets solo'd by zeus alone!Throw in ares who doesn't need to come down to earth that showed he can rip people in half with his telekenic powers.He can also summon and ulimted supply of dead peope to use as cannon fodder (wait till i find vid) God kratos who is also giant has a shit load load a powers and a tactical genuis,ATena who strips pwers away from peple,Giant ass titans with elemental powers,and the sisters of fate that actually control time(not some cheap power up) all of this equals rapestop for dmc army

Also they can't die because gaia can heal others and open up the underworld so they can keep coming back and rape more dmc characters.

and yet he still died from a simple stab from a bigger sword, which the sparda brothers take on a regular basis.

This is the by far dumbest most ignorant statement I have ever heard in this thread.And it shows how far hasty generalizations can go.If you spew more crap like this It would be best for me to ignore you

1.It not just a big sword Its a sword with heavenly status made from gods and it steals powers

2.where did u get simple stab? They fought in an epic battle And ares got stabbed many times.

3.At that size,If vergil and dante stood there to take a single stab from that sword they would get impaled in half.they woude die instanly with one hit.Hell at that size they onl;y need to get stepped on to die.

4.you fail.

I have two words for the first part of that paragraph:

Instant Teleportation

They can do it continuously without any drawbacksI can tell you it'd be pretty damned hard trying to hit them if they kept moving around

If they keep teleporting how are the gona fight? uselses argument.

GoW = button mashing with Kratos until things die, roll around a bit to dodge stuff. And what is this God Mode? It's easier than DMC's normal mode...

DMC = Insane combos, techs, waaaaaaay more refined gameplay engine, and great story (DMC3).

I don't understand how people can say that GoW is a better game.

And for the record Super Sparda = Unlimited DT and regen, you just can't kill him. So everytime Kratos climbs back from hell he just gets sent back again.
This post is the post I've been waiting for. GoW is overrated and deserve a foot up its ass.


1.goku heres how you suck ,You constantly look for a moment to rip on a game

2.A game isn't all about combos.Gow has and epic feal interesting monster designs,Better cutscenes,A better musical score better voice acting better visuals. etc

Dmc has better action and thats it.Ninja gaiden rapes dmc horribly because it has almost up to par action and better graphics and storyline.
Gow also appeals better to a casual gamer.

Its an overall better game.Some people don't want hardcore blitzkrieg action to metal and punk rock.Its all preference

Have your ever even tried to comprehend why it gets better reviews from professionals? or do you think they all are biased?Ninja gaiden gets better reviews also.And it just as hard and its action packed

Purgatory
04-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Are you guys serious.Every god ,titan and hero from gow 1 an 2 versus dmc world? Let me just put a scenerio

Zeus stays above the heavens where he can't be touched and throws lightining bolts at vergil and dante til they die.

SEE! two of the strongest charcters gets solo'd by zeus alone!Throw in ares who doesn't need to come down to earth that showed he can rip people in half with his telekenic powers.He can also summon and ulimted supply of dead peope to use as cannon fodder (wait till i find vid) God kratos who is also giant has a shit load load a powers and a tactical genuis,ATena who strips pwers away from peple,Giant ass titans with elemental powers,and the sisters of fate that actually control time(not some cheap power up) all of this equals rapestop for dmc army

Also they can't die because gaia can heal others and open up the underworld so they can keep coming back and rape more dmc characters.


This is the by far dumbest most ignorant statement I have ever heard in this thread.And it shows how far hasty generalizations can go.If you spew more crap like this It would be best for me to ignore you

1.It not just a big sword Its a sword with heavenly status made from gods and it steals powers

2.where did u get simple stab? They fought in an epic battle And ares got stabbed many times.

3.At that size,If vergil and dante stood there to take a single stab from that sword they would get impaled in half.they woude die instanly with one hit.Hell at that size they onl;y need to get stepped on to die.

4.you fail.

I have two words for the first part of that paragraph:



If they keep teleporting how are the gona fight? uselses argument.



1.goku heres how you suck ,You constantly look for a moment to rip on a game

2.A game isn't all about combos.Gow has and epic feal interesting monster designs,Better cutscenes,A better musical score better voice acting better visuals. etc

Dmc has better action and thats it.Ninja gaiden rapes dmc horribly because it has almost up to par action and better graphics and storyline.
Gow also appeals better to a casual gamer.

Its an overall better game.Some people don't want hardcore blitzkrieg action to metal and punk rock.Its all preference

Have your ever even tried to comprehend why it gets better reviews from professionals? or do you think they all are biased?Ninja gaiden gets better reviews also.And it just as hard and its action packed

They could still do one action while teleporting about. Vergil could fire off about a couple of Summoned Swords, depending how fast he can fire them off..

Also, pretty much no other action game comes close to the DMC franchise (they're lucky if they're even equal with DMC2, which was utter shit.)

Birkin
04-27-2007, 06:42 PM
They could still do one action while teleporting about. Vergil could fire off about a couple of Summoned Swords, depending how fast he can fire them off..

Also, pretty much no other action game comes close to the DMC franchise (they're lucky if they're even equal with DMC2, which was utter shit.)

Action game using swords? I'm pretty sure Onimusha (Although not as fast-paced) could rival DMC. Onimusha's storyline is so epic it ain't even funny. And regarding Onimusha powers, Shin Onimusha could solo both DMC and GOW verses. I love DMC and in my opinion, it slaughters GOW in every way.

Purgatory
04-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Posidens rage until they stop, they have a limit to.

Never seen them tired from doing it, so it's pretty much endless.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-27-2007, 07:24 PM
thanks corrupt vergil for ignoring my whole post.You even ignored the part of why i think ninja gaiden or gow is better.

you and goku are a bias fanboys

I came to a horrible realization that I wrote that long reply for no apparent reason since you won't attepmt to listen to what I got to say so im done with this argument.

One thing I want to say though? Do dmc fans disrespect gow because it's not Japanese?

Action game using swords? I'm pretty sure Onimusha (Although not as fast-paced) could rival DMC. Onimusha's storyline is so epic it ain't even funny. And regarding Onimusha powers, Shin Onimusha could solo both DMC and GOW verses. I love DMC and in my opinion, it slaughters GOW in every way.

Ominusha is indeed a great game. it even had great reviews to back it up.

I still think ninja gaiden black is better than dmc though

Purgatory
04-27-2007, 07:55 PM
thanks corrupt vergil for ignoring my whole post.You even ignored the part of why i think ninja gaiden or gow is better.

you and goku are a bias fanboys

I came to a horrible realization that I wrote that long reply for no apparent reason since you won't attepmt to listen to what I got to say so im done with this argument.

One thing I want to say though? Do dmc fans disrespect gow because it's not Japanese?

Boyo, what the fuck are you smoking? I told you from the first post in here that I would make an unbiased decision, respecting the GoW-verse, and you have the audacity to call me biased?

I never cared for DMC's japanese versions, I'm a true American gamer, even if I play games that originally came from Japan. Some VAs can perfectly fit with the character and give the exact emotion, if not better.

You should come to the realization that you haven't played through all of DMC/DMC3. Have you ever Got Dante's QuickSilver Style? Leveled up his Quickster Style to level 3? Played with all combinations of his Devil Arms and Guns? Played the Special Edition?

You, sir, have made me no other decision then to use this devil's true strength..

"You will not forget this devil's power...."

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-27-2007, 08:05 PM
Boyo, what the fuck are you smoking? I told you from the first post in here that I would make an unbiased decision, respecting the GoW-verse, and you have the audacity to call me biased?

I never cared for DMC's japanese versions, I'm a true American gamer, even if I play games that originally came from Japan. Some VAs can perfectly fit with the character and give the exact emotion, if not better.

You should come to the realization that you haven't played through all of DMC/DMC3. Have you ever Got Dante's QuickSilver Style? Leveled up his Quickster Style to level 3? Played with all combinations of his Devil Arms and Guns? Played the Special Editio

I've beaten dmc1,borrowed dmc 3 from my friend,played till vergil before I gave it back.I brought dmc SE and Im currentrly fighting vergil for the second time(im playing on hard mode because normal mode is too easy)

I just got quicksilver in the last mission

I called you biasd because you refuse to listen to the logic im throwing at you of why gow universe would kill dmc universe

You mean to tell me your not a teeny weeny bias on dmc favor?

Purgatory
04-27-2007, 08:26 PM
I've beaten dmc1,borrowed dmc 3 from my friend,played till vergil before I gave it back.I brought dmc SE and Im currentrly fighting vergil for the second time(im playing on hard mode because normal mode is too easy)

I just got quicksilver in the last mission

I called you biasd because you refuse to listen to the logic im throwing at you of why gow universe would kill dmc universe

You mean to tell me your not a teeny weeny bias on dmc favor?

I've said countless times again and again...Kratos cannot hit what he cannot see. This battle should be counted more of a toss-up, if it'll please your GoW fanboy-ism. But you still have not answered my questions, so you're in no position to insult me, especially since you've just did the same thing.

crimson darkness
04-27-2007, 09:27 PM
Action game using swords? I'm pretty sure Onimusha (Although not as fast-paced) could rival DMC. Onimusha's storyline is so epic it ain't even funny. And regarding Onimusha powers, Shin Onimusha could solo both DMC and GOW verses. I love DMC and in my opinion, it slaughters GOW in every way.

i don't know about onimusha being better than dmc. it might have a more epic storyline, but dmc3's storyline was also fun. dante/vergil are a lot more memorable than any onimusha characters. dmc had more stylish/fast paced gameplay.

as far as shin onimusha soloing dmc. I wouldn't think so. Soki would still have a lot of trouble with mundus and sparda dante. shin onimusha still drawed with fortinbra snake form, and mundus is pretty much like that with more dimension warping abilities. dante in sparda form is like shin onimusha with an energy dragon attack.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-27-2007, 09:35 PM
dmc beating ominusha is even more ridiculous than dmc beating gow

crimson darkness
04-27-2007, 09:37 PM
Are you guys serious.Every god ,titan and hero from gow 1 an 2 versus dmc world? Let me just put a scenerio

Zeus stays above the heavens where he can't be touched and throws lightining bolts at vergil and dante til they die.

SEE! two of the strongest charcters gets solo'd by zeus alone!Throw in ares who doesn't need to come down to earth that showed he can rip people in half with his telekenic powers.He can also summon and ulimted supply of dead peope to use as cannon fodder (wait till i find vid) God kratos who is also giant has a shit load load a powers and a tactical genuis,ATena who strips pwers away from peple,Giant ass titans with elemental powers,and the sisters of fate that actually control time(not some cheap power up) all of this equals rapestop for dmc army


and you are calling everyone else biased.

mundus threw a lightning bolt at griffon in the sky. nearly all demons can stay in hell where they can't be touched.

that loser arius from dmc2 can summon an army of demons. the giant skyscraper demon had elemental powers and was huge.

a counter for everything gow can come up with, and then more. plus dmc>ng>>>>>>>>>GOW. want to know why
dmc was actually fun
dante=cool, vergil=badass. kratos=ugly emo bitch.
better music, gameplay, enjoyable story, etc.
actually takes skill instead of random mashing, and pushing buttons as fast as you can to out muscle bosses.

Purgatory
04-27-2007, 09:56 PM
dmc beating ominusha is even more ridiculous than dmc beating gow

And how so is this Ominusha stronger than the DMCverse, counting all demons from every tier?

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-27-2007, 10:08 PM
and you are calling everyone else biased.

mundus threw a lightning bolt at griffon in the sky. nearly all demons can stay in hell where they can't be touched.

th
at loser arius from dmc2 can summon an army of demons. the giant skyscraper demon had elemental powers and was huge.

a counter for everything gow can come up with, and then more. plus dmc>ng>>>>>>>>>GOW. want to know why
dmc was actually fun
dante=cool, vergil=badass. kratos=ugly emo bitch.
better music, gameplay, enjoyable story, etc.
actually takes skill instead of random mashing, and pushing buttons as fast as you can to out muscle bosses.

those are not counters.who cares if they can do all that?All of these are weaker versions than what the gods can do.

dmc>ng>>>>>>>>>GOW. want to know why
dmc was actually fun
dante=cool, vergil=badass. kratos=ugly emo bitch.
better music, gameplay, enjoyable story, etc.
actually takes skill instead of random mashing, and pushing buttons as fast as you can to out muscle bosses.[/QUOTE]



1.Yeah but thats your opinion.Others would disagree with that,and plus gow gets better reviews.

2.Spikey haired pretty boys are overused and boring with wise cracks

3.Dante looks like a fag.

4.vergil is ok but kratos is tens times more badass

5.story is forgetable.

6.dmc=horrible voice acting

7.epic orchestral score>>>>>metal and punk rock

8.Again Im saying this.gow had better reviews world wide

9.Better boss battles

10.better visuals

11.Mundus is a fucking fairy

12.while dante was eating pizza riding a motor cycle playing a guitar and getting shot up by chicks,Kratos was banging chicks climbing out of hell leading his own army and owning gods


13. dante:A)whoo!!!,b)yeah baby,c)this party is getting crazy!!! D)jackpot!!

Kratos: a)......*takes out blades and proceeds to fuck shit up

14.............vergil doesn't even have his own stages.....

15.Bald,angry,ugly,emo that tears shit up and bangs many chicks *war god>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spikey haired flaming pretty boy with -7th grade california wise cracks-that tears shit up*Half human half devil.

And how so is this Ominusha stronger than the DMCverse, counting all demons from every tier?

Sigh* I don't even want to explain

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=211734&page=2

crimson darkness
04-27-2007, 10:20 PM
too bad mundus can just teleport all of the gow gods into space, and doesnt even need to be there to throw lightning bolts in the sky. and dmc low level demons>gow's dead ppl army

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrPaGutCrJ0
and this happens to kratos as soon as he draws his sword.

Sigh* I don't even want to explain

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=211734&page=2


that doesn't explain anything. I'm an onimusha fan and the only thing that poses a thread to dmc was fortinbra and soki, who are possibly at mundus's level but never showed anything about him.

and no onimusha cannot destroy the world, in terms of planet busting. it just meant destroy as in destroy human life, which nearly all dmc higher demons can do by itself.

you are just jealous because gow lost.

MIDNIGHT TERROR
04-27-2007, 10:36 PM
Unless dante pulls out a bag of vital stars, I'd say it's pretty even

dommyman18
04-27-2007, 10:43 PM
DMC Fanboys keep forgeting GOW has it's own demons and Devil Warloads. Satrys, Cennataurs and Hades are nigh Onipotent. Kraots beat them all. Except Hades who is to cool to die by the ghost of sprada.

Plus Kratos who ever says he's emo, is more realistic than Dante and Vergil, since they belong to the Anime Otaku Sterotype.

So Kratos > The Sprada twins.

Never seen them tired from doing it, so it's pretty much endless.So Kratos still had souls of hades and Zeus's Thunder, Face it Kratos is a tank. The only thing that can kill him is a weapon fromgod, because The Instant teleporting his a game mechanic, Might as well bring in the reaction commands and grapples Dante and Vergil till he rips them apart.

Comic Book Guy
04-27-2007, 11:40 PM
If the thread can't remain civil, it will be closed.

Purgatory
04-28-2007, 01:04 AM
If the thread can't remain civil, it will be closed.

I vote that it should be closed, since this debauchle will never end.

Purgatory
04-28-2007, 01:13 AM
2.Spikey haired pretty boys are overused and boring with wise cracks

Vergil comes up with witty retorts, not his fault Dante sucks at dissing.

3.Dante looks like a fag.

If you mean by "bad-ass", then yes, he is a fag.

4.vergil is ok but kratos is tens times more badass

Kratos will never be as bad-ass as Vergil will. Have you even seen the scene after the first Vergil battle? He completely owned Dante, and also added insult to injury.

5.story is forgetable.

I could say the same for GoW

[/quote]6.dmc=horrible voice acting[/quote]

Dan Southworth is an amazing VA for Vergil, you should come to realize that.

7.epic orchestral score>>>>>metal and punk rock

Not always.

9.Better boss battles

I take it you never played Dante Must Die mode.

10.better visuals

I call bullshit.

11.Mundus is a fucking fairy

Ares wasn't too smart considering he was easily fucking killed by a demi God, and that Ares was a full-fledged God.

12.while dante was eating pizza riding a motor cycle playing a guitar and getting shot up by chicks,Kratos was banging chicks climbing out of hell leading his own army and owning gods

And perhaps those "Gods" do not live up to their original title in Greek mythology. Games aren't all about killing the strongest of the strong and having sex with more women then Gene Simmons, don't forget it's also WTFPwning enemies and showing off your heavy guitar skills.

13. dante:A)whoo!!!,b)yeah baby,c)this party is getting crazy!!! D)jackpot!!

Kratos: a)......*takes out blades and proceeds to fuck shit up

That's Dante for ya....unless we're talking about DMC1 and probably DMC2 Dante

14.............vergil doesn't even have his own stages.....

But he is able to tear Jester a new asshole.

15.Bald,angry,ugly,emo that tears shit up and bangs many chicks *war god>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spikey haired flaming pretty boy with -7th grade california wise cracks-that tears shit up*Half human half devil.


...Dante doesn't have spikey hair, that's Vergil. If you were referring to Vergil, I'd suggest you take that remark back, because Vergil happens to be the wiser of the twins, and he does not hesitate to kill anyone who's an obstacle in gaining the ultimate power.[/QUOTE]

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-28-2007, 03:10 AM
@crimsondarkness: Soki is nigh-omnipotent. He solos both GOW and DMC.

Crimson Dragoon
04-28-2007, 10:48 AM
I vote this thread be closed just because of the post above. Alright, seriously, this thread should just die because everyone is getting all biased and hostile. There is no worthwhile debate to have anymore, just a big, dick-waving contest.

Birkin
04-28-2007, 11:13 AM
GOW has better voice-casting than DMC? I guess we'll never know as Kratos never opens his fucking mouth and when he does, you fall asleep. Vergil has a really good voice actor. I doubt anyone could do it better.

crimson darkness
04-28-2007, 07:05 PM
@crimsondarkness: Soki is nigh-omnipotent. He solos both GOW and DMC.

not really since sparda trigger and mundus has shown to be equally omnipotent if not more. and dante still wastes him easily in his base form, since they'd possibly just cancel each other out.

soki's only temporarily fortinbra's equal anyways since he's a reincarnation, while fortinbra was the real thing from what it seemed. the only thing he did more was create the oni race, but being able to create doesn't mean he's all powerful. mundus can create powerful being like trish.

Purgatory
04-28-2007, 07:56 PM
DMC Fanboys keep forgeting GOW has it's own demons and Devil Warloads. Satrys, Cennataurs and Hades are nigh Onipotent. Kraots beat them all. Except Hades who is to cool to die by the ghost of sprada.

Can someone say "Greek Mythical Legends"?

So Kratos < The Sprada twins.

You are correct, sir!

So Kratos still had souls of hades and Zeus's Thunder, Face it Kratos is a tank. The only thing that can kill him is a weapon fromgod, because The Instant teleporting his a game mechanic, Might as well bring in the reaction commands and grapples Dante and Vergil till he rips them apart.

The Instant Teleportation is their battle speed, along with the incredible speed they already possess.

Taleran
04-28-2007, 11:25 PM
GOW has better voice-casting than DMC? I guess we'll never know as Kratos never opens his fucking mouth and when he does, you fall asleep. Vergil has a really good voice actor. I doubt anyone could do it better.


do you like making it completely obvious that you don't even play the respective games?

Birkin
04-29-2007, 10:27 AM
do you like making it completely obvious that you don't even play the respective games?

I've played through GOW 1 only and I have to say, he rarely opens his mouth.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-29-2007, 01:51 PM
Analysis

Before I post this analysis, I'd like to say that I'm NOT biased. I love both game series equally.

Here we go:-

Kratos Vs The Sparda Brothers:-

1- Physical Strength: Easy. Kratos wins in this category, he has shown many feats of superhuman strength. Example: Like when the Colossus tried to crush him with his foot but Kratos sent him flying backwards.

2- Speed: Sparda brothers take this. They were shown to fight so fast under the rain that not even one drop reached the ground. They also have instant teleportation, like Corrupt Vergil said.

3- Transformations: The Sparda brothers have Devil Trigger whereas Kratos has the Rage of the Titans. Devil Trigger has proved to be more useful than Rage of the Titans. Devil Trigger wins. (Remember, Kratos doesn't have Rage of the Gods anymore, which gave him infinite magic and invulnerability)

4- Magic: The only type of "Magic" that the Sparda brothers have is quicksilver and time bangle. Kratos has many magical abilities given to him from the gods (and the titans) and he also has time manipulation. However, Sparda brothers can activate quicksilver in an instant. Best thing I can say is a tie.

5- Stamina and Durability: The Sparda brothers have shown to be able to take MUCH more punishment than Kratos (Who died in GOW2 from a stab from Zeus after being crushed by the Colossus). They laugh all the punisment off. They also have insane stamina and regeneration abilities.

In the end, the Sparda brothers defeat Kratos, 3-1.

Gods Vs Demon Kings:-

Not much to say here but the Gods outnumber the Demon Kings of DMC.

Gods win this. (Unless someone would summarise Mundus' powers)

GOW Bosses Vs DMC Bosses:-

DMC bosses are more diverse than GOW bosses. They also outnumber them, however, GOW bosses have many unique abilities. I'm not really sure who wins this, so you decide.

Sisters of Fate Vs Sparda:-

Sparda > Sparda brothers > Kratos > Sisters of Fate.

GOW enemies Vs DMC enemies:-

GOW wins this due to having a more diverse set of enemies.

Titans VS ???

I can't think of anyone from DMC who will fight them since all the powerful characters are busy fighting the above.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

So far, GOW wins this fight but my analysis could be flawed. Please correct me if I screwed up in something.

Birkin
04-29-2007, 01:56 PM
Good analysis but you forget one thing. The Sparda twins have some serious regeneration and stamina. After they take out Kratos (Which I'm sure they will) they can take on the titans. They rarely tire out. Just look at DMC 2 Dante (I hate the game, but he traveled to the dimension where Argosax was and came out without any sign of fatigue.)

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-29-2007, 02:00 PM
Whoops. I edited the above.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-29-2007, 02:22 PM
By the way, what will Nelo Angelo contribute here. I know that he is Vergil but still....

Also, it will be really helpful if someone could post a list of DMC bosses. (I only played DMC 1 & 3)

Birkin
04-29-2007, 02:38 PM
Devil May Cry 1 Bosses

Phantom:

The first "true" boss enemy you fight in the game, Phantom is a giant rock spider/scorpion creature, with lava-like blood. He fights for Mundus while trying to further his own agenda. In any case, he is one really big spider/scorpion thingy. You must fight him on two different occasions, but there are three occasions where a fight is purely optional. One of these fights is in the courtyard in Mission 5 at Hard Difficulty or higher, so be very careful when passing through this area so you don't get nailed by a fireball the instant you step in.

Nero Angelo:

It would be hard to describe the true nature of this dark knight without spoiling the story for those of you who haven't finished it, so I will simply say this: He's a knight dressed in black, he carries a sword bigger then
yours and he's about 7 feet tall. He never says much preferring to taunt you with that infernal laugh. Ha ha ha.

Griffon:

After the defeat of the Phantom, the Griffon, the oldest and most loyal of Mundus' dark henchmen, rises up to take Dante down. His skills may be fading, but fights with a determination that is truly inspiring.

Nightmare:

An Underworld equivalent of a bio-weapon, Nightmare is designed to destroy and not much else. It is sentient, but it acts as though it has no will of its own, blindly obeying its creator Mundus. Any opponent trapped inside its recesses is doomed to an eternal torment by their own nightmares...

Mundus:

The Emperor of the underworld, and the ultimate enemy of the game. He was defeated 2000 years ago by the Legendary Knight Sparda, and he not too pleased about that. He seeks to rule Earth via entry through some portal that can only be accessed at Mallet Island.



Found this info on a site. There's so many to list from Devil May Cry 2.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-29-2007, 02:44 PM
Thank you for the list, I can use it in the analysis.

Where would you place Mundus. Is he anywhere near nigh omnipotent ?

Birkin
04-29-2007, 02:58 PM
Watch what he does and says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zzydMLP4Fjw

And after the 1st fight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NX6GPWGcBhM

When you fight him: (Turn down the sound a little) http://youtube.com/watch?v=6sA3RvQYyOc

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-29-2007, 04:32 PM
1.I apologize of how much of and asshole I was being(even though you forced my hand)


2.I would only like to point out one thing:


In the beginnng of gow2 it was stated that kratos "lost his immortality" when he drained his powers into the blade. And when he got the blade back he gained the power of pandoras box back ( and immortality)= that is why he could even approach zeus=he can't get killed.


If anyone played gow they would know that the gods are immortal.The only way they can die is if you open pandora's box or if you are a stronger diety than them.


And also.Mundus.....is....not.....omnipotent

Bullet
04-29-2007, 05:55 PM
But Mundus is still crazy powerful.

crimson darkness
04-29-2007, 08:35 PM
being able to teleport ppl to space, or warp into an outer space like dimension(whatever that was), create seals, throw around lightning, meteors, etc, pocess different forms, destroy things without being there, create powerful being like trish, etc shows him being pretty close to omnipotent in most cases.

you also forgot vergil has anime like sword techniques, being able to cut up things without being anywhere close to it, and also dante at a lower level, shown as his sword extends and create a dome, and cutting up his own place in the official manga prequel.

dante/trish combination can just seal things with a bullet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3xwlg_FIY
nero is physically strong and skilled, though he'll probably be weaker than the sparda bros. vergil/dante tend to use skill more than strength for a reason, and probably have more power as far as punches go being able to split giant monsters in 1/2 with a kick, while kratos has to try to rip with both hands.

Purgatory
04-29-2007, 09:07 PM
being able to teleport ppl to space, or warp into an outer space like dimension(whatever that was), create seals, throw around lightning, meteors, etc, pocess different forms, destroy things without being there, create powerful being like trish, etc shows him being pretty close to omnipotent in most cases.

you also forgot vergil has anime like sword techniques, being able to cut up things without being anywhere close to it, and also dante at a lower level, shown as his sword extends and create a dome, and cutting up his own place in the official manga prequel.

dante/trish combination can just seal things with a bullet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3xwlg_FIY
nero is physically strong and skilled, though he'll probably be weaker than the sparda bros. vergil/dante tend to use skill more than strength for a reason, and probably have more power as far as punches go being able to split giant monsters in 1/2 with a kick, while kratos has to try to rip with both hands.

Sorry but, Vergil uses the style of Iaido (Also known as Iaijutsu, which relates to the use of Battou-Jutsu, the sheathing of the sword).

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-30-2007, 05:46 AM
And also.Mundus.....is....not.....omnipotent

Of course he isn't. If he was then Dante would be dead now.

crimson darkness
04-30-2007, 06:34 AM
what does mundus have to do to show that he's omnipotent?

wheres the beef?
04-30-2007, 07:16 AM
ppl over rate DMC so hard seriously..i want to see dmc die for once fuckin come on GOW 1/2 charas would absoultly beat the living shit out of DMC chars..i mean wtf dante and as for dante's little devil trigger move kratos will match that with the rage of the titans easily +all his abilities he'd grab dante and rip his body in half :D

Bullet
04-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Yeah, like people don't overrate GOW too.

DMC takes the majority.

dommyman18
04-30-2007, 04:41 PM
Nothing convinces me the the sparda bros can beat Kratos with their haxxors speed and corny ass tricks and moves. Kratos is the perfect example of pure brute strenght and graceful magical power. He has the abiltys of the gods of olmypus, plus the stamina of a god other wise creaturs like orcs and the minoturs and the magataur wouldn't body slam him on the pave ment when ever he misses a reaction command grappling the fuckers. Plus the rage of thje gods gives him extra immortality and the advantage with incoming speed movements of both brothers. Plus, HADES, Sparda doesn't compare to hades, the greek god of satan. The souls would rip out their flesh before they even move, I don't see any move that could put HADES in his place since he's immortal in his world.

Kratos wins this God of war wins everything else.

Crimson Dragoon
04-30-2007, 04:47 PM
Hades isn't the Greek mythology's version of Satan. He's not evil and wasn't Zeus' enemy. He was just a God of the Underworld where all souls, good or evil, go to.

dommyman18
04-30-2007, 04:52 PM
Hades isn't the Greek mythology's version of Satan. He's not evil and wasn't Zeus' enemy. He was just a God of the Underworld where all souls, good or evil, go to.So? Still it's still rapestomp for the sparda twins.

The Nameless Pharaoh
04-30-2007, 04:56 PM
Nothing convinces me the the sparda bros can beat Kratos with their haxxors speed and corny ass tricks and moves. Kratos is the perfect example of pure brute strenght and graceful magical power. He has the abiltys of the gods of olmypus, plus the stamina of a god other wise creaturs like orcs and the minoturs and the magataur wouldn't body slam him on the pave ment when ever he misses a reaction command grappling the fuckers. Plus the rage of thje gods gives him extra immortality and the advantage with incoming speed movements of both brothers. Plus, HADES, Sparda doesn't compare to hades, the greek god of satan. The souls would rip out their flesh before they even move, I don't see any move that could put HADES in his place since he's immortal in his world.

Kratos wins this God of war wins everything else.

Prove it. You haven't proven anything or said anything useful to counter my analysis. At least try to counter it with proof. I proved that Sparda twins > Kratos in my post above.

Also prove that Hades > Sparda.

Kamina
04-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I Like GOW much better although i cant wait for DMC4 to be released.

crimson darkness
04-30-2007, 04:58 PM
if you want to talk about satan himself, you can claim that dante took him on seeing that he guest stared in nocturne.

though that wouldn't really make sense how he just didn't do anything in the ending. it really felt incomplete since it probably should have shown a scene with him showing up and atleaste saying something about lucifer's plans(i'm sure he won't approve of it)

mundus had more power than lucifer from their game displays, and dante had help from a less powerful demon who hired him, and was spared twice, eventhough he never dt'd in the whole game.

Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 05:29 PM
Devil May Cry. First off the bosses IN DMC had better strengths and were more powerful than the ones in god of War, Vergil would be enought to handle kratos. Vergil.would just go to devil mode or super devil. Dante could solo alot of peopel with quicksilver with Quicksilver. and his weapons are a monster. The titans themselves are too old to fight, btu if needed Sparda or tfinal final boss could take them out. The red falcon guy at the end of DMC2 not arius or the girl. The fact is that DMC has better All around skills when it would come to a huge battle. they have attacks, techniques, weapons, and styles that would do kratos them.
DMC for te win..

dommyman18
04-30-2007, 05:31 PM
Devil May Cry. First off the bosses IN DMC had better strengths and were more powerful than the ones in god of War, Vergil would be enought to handle kratos. Vergil.would just go to devil mode or super devil. Dante could solo alot of peopel with quicksilver with Quicksilver. and his weapons are a monster. The titans themselves are too old to fight, btu if needed Sparda or tfinal final boss could take them out. The red falcon guy at the end of DMC2 not arius or the girl. The fact is that DMC has better All around skills when it would come to a huge battle. they have attacks, techniques, weapons, and styles that would do kratos them.
DMC for te win..*clears throat* Pandoras Box and Souls of Hades. Thank you.

Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 05:37 PM
*clears throat* Pandoras Box and Souls of Hades. Thank you.

If you get killed you're obviously not a god.. show proof that DMC can't beat GOW... you can't cause they can..


ppl over rate DMC so hard seriously..i want to see dmc die for once fuckin come on GOW 1/2 charas would absoultly beat the living shit out of DMC chars..i mean wtf dante and as for dante's little devil trigger move kratos will match that with the rage of the titans easily +all his abilities he'd grab dante and rip his body in half :D

you obviously haven't played all 3 games.If you playd all 3 you know they have more than chance to win.....

dommyman18
04-30-2007, 05:47 PM
If you get killed you're obviously not a god.. show proof that DMC can't beat GOW... you can't cause they can..




you obviously haven't played all 3 games.If you playd all 3 you know they have more than chance to win.....Same goes to Mundus and Sparda. How are they gods exactly? And last I checked Athena, Ares, and Artemis were immortals to when they were high time with kratos.

Oh and Pandoras box is the power cosmic of the GOW verse.

Plus Kratos can summon the souls of the dead, he just sould take the sparda twins souls.

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 06:44 PM
Same goes to Mundus and Sparda. How are they gods exactly? And last I checked Athena, Ares, and Artemis were immortals to when they were high time with kratos.

Right...that's why they got killed off by a being who was only part God.

Oh and Pandoras box is the power cosmic of the GOW verse.

He can't kill what kills him first. For the umpteenth time, the Sparda Twins have instant teleportation which they can go near their enemies God Damnit. What part of instant teleportation don't you understand?

Plus Kratos can summon the souls of the dead, he just sould take the sparda twins souls.

Big deal, Arius, although being a crappy villain as is, can do the same damned thing, as well as Mundus. Also, Jester with the Sparda powers can summon dolphin-like appendages, and many of them, to keep Kratos at bay.

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 06:45 PM
I Like GOW much better although i cant wait for DMC4 to be released.

Now that's a biased opinion if I ever saw one. Give a logical reasoning as to why, and I'll respond with a kinder reply.

Crimson Dragoon
04-30-2007, 06:56 PM
I really don't like saying the same thing twice, but in this case I'll do it anyway. The reason Kratos is able to kill a God is because of Pandora's Box, The Blade of Olympus, or some other plot-device that allows him to match a God's power.

TAM ZEDEKIAH
04-30-2007, 07:29 PM
Every time we state something kratos can do you quickly say oh another boss or another can do something of the sort also

That goes to show you how much Kratos kicks ass.Him alone can do a whole bunch of shit;while in dmc it takes a whole bunch of bosses and charcters to amount to the skills he has

Now that's a biased opinion if I ever saw one. Give a logical reasoning as to why, and I'll respond with a kinder reply.

so everybody has to give a reason why they like gow better than your so called messiah game.....You can't seem to understand preference

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 08:38 PM
Every time we state something kratos can do you quickly say oh another boss or another can do something of the sort also

United, they stand.

That goes to show you how much Kratos kicks ass.Him alone can do a whole bunch of shit;while in dmc it takes a whole bunch of bosses and charcters to amount to the skills he has

A little thing called VARIATION. If every damned boss was the same like that, the game would feel tasteless.

so everybody has to give a reason why they like gow better than your so called messiah game.....You can't seem to understand preference

Fine, I'll say it bluntly if you want me to say it so fucking much.

DMC 1 AND 3 FUCKING ROCK. GOW IS TOTAL SHIT COMPARED TO THE GODS THAT BE

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Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Same goes to Mundus and Sparda. How are they gods exactly? And last I checked Athena, Ares, and Artemis were immortals to when they were high time with kratos.

Oh and Pandoras box is the power cosmic of the GOW verse.

Plus Kratos can summon the souls of the dead, he just sould take the sparda twins souls.

quote where I said they were gods. He can summon dead souls doesn't mean he can take them. GOW evrse loses. Sparda died sacraficing his own power to seperate the wordls, and mundus died because dante was stronger.DMC's unique abilities is what gives them the edge. How is GOW supposed to stop Quicksilver style, or how can they contend with trickster, or swordsmaster. How can they stop adult super devil mode dante from DMC 2 he could solo alot of people.


United, they stand.



A little thing called VARIATION. If every damned boss was the same like that, the game would feel tasteless.



Fine, I'll say it bluntly if you want me to say it so fucking much.

DMC 1 AND 3 FUCKING ROCK. GOW IS TOTAL SHIT COMPARED TO THE GODS THAT BE

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GREAT QUOTE, but dont forget about 2 it was bad as hell also.

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 10:07 PM
GREAT QUOTE, but dont forget about 2 it was bad as hell also.

Well, I did leave it out because of it's rather...dull plotline and pathetic villain and side character.

Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 10:28 PM
I just liked going Adult super devil mode, and fighting that phoenix guy boss was pretty fun, and bloody palace.

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 10:45 PM
I just liked going Adult super devil mode, and fighting that phoenix guy boss was pretty fun, and bloody palace.

..Phoenix guy? :huh Do you mean Griffon from DMC1?

Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 10:47 PM
no it was the final boss of DMC2 after you beat the blob of all the bosses you already beat then you have to fight this phoenix man that leaps out. he could only be damaged when he tried to suprise attack u. It's when you go to the demon's world.

Purgatory
04-30-2007, 11:09 PM
no it was the final boss of DMC2 after you beat the blob of all the bosses you already beat then you have to fight this phoenix man that leaps out. he could only be damaged when he tried to suprise attack u. It's when you go to the demon's world.

Oh...OH! That's Arius' demon form if I'm certain. There was a name for it, too. That form is called Despair Embodiment, and it's one fucking hard boss too.

Halcyon Days
04-30-2007, 11:12 PM
yeah.. thats it

crimson darkness
05-01-2007, 12:48 AM
i agree that liking gow more isn't a biased opinion, since it's the person's taste. I personally didn't like gow.

timebaggle=absolute time stopage>quicksilver and kratos's ability

The Nameless Pharaoh
05-01-2007, 04:18 AM
You guys never bothered to read my analysis:cry :cry .

Halcyon Days
05-01-2007, 04:22 AM
i read it...