Darth Vader vs Asajj Ventress and Sora Bulq

[Crimson Dragoon]

Just like the title says. Battle takes place in the Geonosis Arena and both sides are in character. Who takes this contest of Dark Side powers?

[TWF]

Which Darth Vader is this? Pre-Mustafar or Post-Mustafar?

[Crimson Dragoon]

Scenario 1: Pre-Mustafar

Scenario 2: Post-Mustafar, end of Rise of Darth Vader

[TWF]

Pre-Mustafar Anakin would rape Sorq Bulq hard, even if he had the help of Ventress. He beats both of them with some injuries.

Post-Mustafar Vader has limited speed and over-all less Force ability ie agility, speed, ect..I can still see Sora getting physically over-powered here. Ventress might make it a draw between them.

[Crimson Dragoon]

When was it stated that suited Vader had less Force ability than ROTS Anakin? Hell, he should have more since he had twenty years to hone his abilities. Palpy himself states in Dark Lord that Vader still has a ton of power within in him. Whatever weakness he had was psychological.

Plus, agility really wasn't much of a problem for Vader. In RoDV, he was running and Force leaping. Not Anakin level(not that he needs it), but some form of mobility nonetheless. He's not a slow moving retard people make him out to be, his fighting style has just changed because of his condition.

[Suzumebachi]

Ventress would beat post Mustafaar Anakin.

[Crimson Dragoon]

Depends on which one. She'll beat the Vader who was still rather noobish with the suit in RoDV for sure but just after RoDV the fight would become closer. Vader in the later years of the Jedi Purge would beat Asajj handily.

[Soul Vibe]

Vader has less Force power Post-Mustufar because he has less organic tissue in which to channel the Force through.

anyways...i agree with the above posters. Pre-Mustufar wins, Post-Mustufar wins with much more difficulty.

[Gaelek_13]

When was it stated that suited Vader had less Force ability than ROTS Anakin? Hell, he should have more since he had twenty years to hone his abilities. Palpy himself states in Dark Lord that Vader still has a ton of power within in him. Whatever weakness he had was psychological.

Plus, agility really wasn't much of a problem for Vader. In RoDV, he was running and Force leaping. Not Anakin level(not that he needs it), but some form of mobility nonetheless. He's not a slow moving retard people make him out to be, his fighting style has just changed because of his condition.

Vader is less agile clearly because he's got more mechanical parts like his legs and arms which frankly aren't going to be as good as the real thing.

Also, The Force requires living tissue to generate it so being more machine than man made Post-Mustafar Vader weaker. He was "Forever crippled in both body and power."

Of course that's not to say he was a bitch...he was still very strong.

[Crimson Dragoon]

The "forever crippled in both body and power" is clearly hyperbole since Palpatine states in Rise of Darth Vader that Vader possesses the same amount of power he had pre-Mustafar and his weaknesses were psychological in nature. The amount of organic tissue in the body does not dictate Force power or else Yoda would be a weakling. As for agility, Vader could just use the Force to make himself run faster and jump higher. I don't understand why some think this is a problem. We're talking about a guy who tears apart industrial machinery with ease. Using TK to make his cybernetic parts lighter should be easy. Backflips and the like are going to be problematic though.

Having said that, I believe Vader could still reach his full potential but it will take him longer to achieve it than Luke because of his injuries.