Super Sonic vs The Black Flash(DC) [Archive]

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 07:02 AM

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Super Sonic has drifted into a unfamiliar world(DC universe) and is lost. He finds that his transformation is fueled by another unseen force(The Speed Force) and he sees a dark monster that wants to claim his life(Black Flash).

Does Super Sonic escape the DC universe before The Black Flash claims his soul?

Yagami-Kun

04-20-2007, 07:30 AM

Nice fight but I'm afraid I don't know much about Super Sonic.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 07:48 AM

Nice fight but I'm afraid I don't know much about Super Sonic.

Largely invulnerable, Super Speed and Time manipulation on a large scale. Can teleport himself and other objects over very long distances.

Birkin

04-20-2007, 10:11 AM

Wannabe Super Saiyan if you ask me. :notrust

Hangatýr

04-20-2007, 11:08 AM

Wannabe Super Saiyan if you ask me. :notrust

No one has, or will.

So Godspeed Redux, could you post some info/feats on both or links?

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 01:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL3CQejmOys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47eN-ERO6s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXkDW4woJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpFd4L_YNvQ&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47eN-ERO6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WzTo9PW40w&mode=related&search=

04-20-2007, 01:48 PM

You take game battles?
- Here is Super Sonic vs Perfect Chaos (real)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHeFn0irXg&mode=related&search=

04-20-2007, 02:07 PM

Seriously Super Sonic will blitz Black Flash like nothing.
Chaos Control - Time stops, now Sonic can move at normal speed while everything else (including Black Flash) He can hit Black Flash how many times he want before even Black Flash even know what has happend.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 02:07 PM

You take game battles?
- Here is Super Sonic vs Perfect Chaos (real)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHeFn0irXg&mode=related&search=

Non-canon.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 02:10 PM

Is this game Super Sonic?

With regards to the Black Flash, it can stop time -- only its victim and anything connected to the Speed Force can still move. If the Black Flash touches its victim(s), it dies upon contact. Not sure about the non-victims, like when the other Speedsters fought him.

04-20-2007, 02:12 PM

Non-canon.
Well so is game Sonic's feats, but it's more accurate than the game.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Well so is game Sonic's feats, but it's more accurate than the game.

Game Sonic is the strongest canon.

@Comic Book Guy: Game Sonic is the only one I use.

04-20-2007, 02:16 PM

Is this game Super Sonic?
It doesnt matter, with one emerald (works like the infinity gems, only powerful as a union) andyhow, with only one emerald Sonic can freeze time at will (chaos control)

Now as Super Sonic he is beyond time itself, I even think he would beat the crap out of the Runner (the skyfather, who blitzed Silver Surfer)

04-20-2007, 02:17 PM

Game Sonic is the strongest canon.

@Comic Book Guy: Game Sonic is the only one I use.

Hell no, if the player suck then the character suck, even though Sonic is invulnerable in this state.

Sonic from the comics have far better feats.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 02:18 PM

Hell no, if the player suck then the character suck, even though Sonic is invulnerable in this state.

Sonic from the comics have far better feats.

Comics aren't canon.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Game Sonic is the strongest canon.

@Comic Book Guy: Game Sonic is the only one I use.

Alrighty.

It doesnt matter, with one emerald (works like the infinity gems, only powerful as a union) andyhow, with only one emerald Sonic can freeze time at will (chaos control)

Now as Super Sonic he is beyond time itself, I even think he would beat the crap out of the Runner (the skyfather, who blitzed Silver Surfer)

And Black Flash corrupts the dimension it enters by slowing down time to an absolute stop -- only the victim and those connected to the Speed Force are immune.

Black Flash was defeated when Flash led him to the point where death ceased to exist at the conceptual level.

Hell no, if the player suck then the character suck, even though Sonic is invulnerable in this state.

Sonic from the comics have far better feats.

Comics aren't canon.

Yeah -- be it Archie or Sonic the Comic.

04-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Comics aren't canon.
Then what is? - The games, because they were created first?

Chaos Zero > Super Sonic (sucky player)
Super Sonic > Chaos Zero (good player)

You cannot messure power in games.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 02:23 PM

And Black Flash corrupts the dimension it enters by slowing down time to an absolute stop -- only the victim and those connected to the Speed Force are immune.

Black Flash was defeated when Flash led him to the point where death ceased to exist at the conceptual level.

Super Sonic has drifted into a unfamiliar world(DC universe) and is lost. He finds that his transformation is fueled by another unseen force(The Speed Force) and he sees a dark monster that wants to claim his life(Black Flash).

Does Super Sonic escape the DC universe before The Black Flash claims his soul

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 02:24 PM

Then what is? - The games, because they were created first?

Yes. An adaption is an adaption.

Chaos Zero > Super Sonic (sucky player)
Super Sonic > Chaos Zero (good player)

You cannot messure power in games.

Cutscenes and the actual canon endings.

Super Sonic has drifted into a unfamiliar world(DC universe) and is lost. He finds that his transformation is fueled by another unseen force(The Speed Force) and he sees a dark monster that wants to claim his life(Black Flash).

Does Super Sonic escape the DC universe before The Black Flash claims his soul

In that case, Super Sonic would have to do what Wally did.

For all Wally's speed, racing ahead to the future, Black Flash was still catching up to him and nearly grabbed his head were it not for the fact that Wally escaped the conceptual point of death.

Endless Mike

04-20-2007, 04:29 PM

Can Sonic travel to the end of time? Otherwise he won't win.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 06:32 PM

Can Sonic travel to the end of time? Otherwise he won't win.

In theroy, he could.

Yagami-Kun

04-20-2007, 06:40 PM

In theroy, he could.

If he could really do that then I think it's a tie.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 06:48 PM

Flash escaped from the Black Flash by racing to the past the point where death ceased to exist on a conceptual level. However, as Max (or was it Jay? can't remember) said, the Black Flash awaits all speedsters at "the end of the finish line".

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 06:54 PM

Isnt Black Flash earthbound? - If, Super Sonic could just fly out to space.
Can Chaos Control be used? - Because if it can then Sonic wins, or at least don't get his soul stolen.
Sonic's invulnerability don't help him here? - No, Super Sonic cannot die in the games.

04-20-2007, 06:57 PM

The wierd thing with CC is that it stops time completely, but the users are still able to see. I mean if time is stoped then so is the photons which means he cannot absorb them with his eye.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 06:58 PM

Super Sonic can slow down and stop time. It's quite possible that Super Sonic Can Time Travel using the Chaos Emeralds. But in the DC universe, breaking the lightspeed barrier is required for time travel, if I'm correct.

Super Sonic would be able to do so with ease using Chaos Control

Light Barrier < Time Barrier < Dimensional Barrier < Speed Force Barrier, if I remember the order right. Though Wally was racing to the future, Jay said he also broke the Speed Force barrier. I'd have to pick up the issue to find out the exact context of dialogue, if I can dig it out. . .

Isnt Black Flash earthbound? - If, Super Sonic could just fly out to space.
Can Chaos Control be used? - Because if it can then Sonic wins, or at least don't get his soul stolen.
Sonic's invulnerability don't help him here? - No, Super Sonic cannot die in the games.

Black Flash isn't earthbound -- where there's a Speedster that is to die, it'll be there.

If Black Flash touches its victim, the victim dies upon immediate contact.

And Super Sonic (and even Hyper Sonic in the Sonic 3 & Knuckles) can die in the games. Fall in a bottomless pit.

04-20-2007, 07:02 PM

Light Barrier < Time Barrier < Dimensional Barrier < Speed Force Barrier, if I remember the order right. Though Wally was racing to the future, Jay said he also broke the Speed Force barrier. I'd have to pick up the issue to find out the exact context of dialogue, if I can dig it out. . .

Black Flash isn't earthbound -- where there's a Speedster that is to die, it'll be there.

If Black Flash touches its victim, the victim dies upon immediate contact.

And Super Sonic (and even Hyper Sonic in the Sonic 3 & Knuckles) can die in the games. Fall in a bottomless pit.
Oh forgot those old games ... But in the later games there are no bottomless pit's.
Anyhow.
Technicaly with CC shouldent be be able to pick up Black Flash and go back in time with him? - He can use chopsticks or something.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 07:05 PM

Oh forgot those old games ... But in the later games there are no bottomless pit's.
Anyhow.
Technicaly with CC shouldent be be able to pick up Black Flash and go back in time with him? - He can use chopsticks or something.

I don't really see what Chaos Control would do, seeing as how Black Flash can also stop time.

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 07:11 PM

I don't really see what Chaos Control would do, seeing as how Black Flash can also stop time.

Then Sonic might be boned.

Badalight

04-20-2007, 09:15 PM

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 09:18 PM

So they both stop time... :huh

Interesting...

I don't know much about Black Flash.

I know a lot more about Super Sonic but by going with what I have I'd say Sonic could win IF he could time travel.

I don't know the limitations of Chaos Control so... =/

I do know Super Sonic is in a sence invincible.

The only way he loses is by running out of rings.

Which just means as soon as he's out of power then he is no longer Super Sonic.

Super Sonic has drifted into a unfamiliar world(DC universe) and is lost. He finds that his transformation is fueled by another unseen force(The Speed Force) and he sees a dark monster that wants to claim his life(Black Flash).

Does Super Sonic escape the DC universe before The Black Flash claims his soul?

If Black Flash touches its victim, the victim dies upon immediate contact.

Here ya go.

mystictrunks

04-20-2007, 09:21 PM

Depends on how sonic decides to handle it. If he goes to the end of time then he can live. if he doesn't he's boned.

Badalight

04-20-2007, 09:28 PM

Well in this case it's pretty much Impossible for Sonic to win if he can't touch his oponent without dying x-x

Giovanni Rild

04-20-2007, 09:30 PM

Well in this case it's pretty much Impossible for Sonic to win if he can't touch his oponent without dying x-x

Does Super Sonic escape the DC universe before The Black Flash claims his soul?
Read more carefully.

Comic Book Guy

04-20-2007, 09:44 PM

Well, the Black Flash nearly caught up to Wally (hands were just about to close upon his head) -- Wally was beginning to age (albeit his hairs were turning grey) from the proximity -- about a 100 million (or billion? been too long) years from the time where death ceased as a concept.

As for Super Sonic's speed being fast enough. . . I can't really say, at the moment.