Fūton: Rasenshuriken vs People with strong defenses

[Giovanni Rild]

Who will be left standing after a direct hit? Keep in mind that Fūton: Rasenshuriken attacks on a cellular level

Wolverine

Ryoga

The Goron Champion

Deathstroke

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci

Alexander Anderson

The Thing(Marvel)

A Rancor(Star Wars)

[The Internet]

Who will be left standing after a direct hit? Keep in mind that Fūton: Rasenshuriken attacks on a cellular level

Wolverine

Ryoga

The Goron Champion

Deathstroke

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci

Alexander Anderson

The Thing(Marvel)

A Rancor(Star Wars)

Wolverine - Survives

Ryoga - dead

The Goron Champion = dead

Deathstroke - dont know

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci - dead

Alexander Anderson - survives

The Thing(Marvel) - survives

A Rancor(Star Wars) - dead

[Shinkirou]

Anybody on here with regen lives.

[Orion]

I say we wait until we actually see it on an opponent with durability,kakuzu without his iron skin was still alive after being hit although not for long,the blades only attack on a cellular level once they pierce the skin,if the person is more durable then the blade can pierce then they wont do any real damage at all.

[Pipboy]

Wolverine: Alive

Ryoga: Dead

The Goron Champion: Don't know who this is

Deathstroke: Meh.... call it dead

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci: Alive

Alexander Anderson: Alive

The Thing(Marvel): Alive

A Rancor(Star Wars) : Dead

[The Internet]

How would Lucci survive that?

[Random Nobody]

Tekkai? It does say vs people with a strong defense so I assume he'd be using it.

[Pipboy]

Tekkai Utsugi or Gou, both would be more than enough to stop damage that couldn't even kill Kakuzu outright/

[Giovanni Rild]

Wolverine: Alive

Ryoga: Dead

The Goron Champion: Don't know who this is

Deathstroke: Meh.... call it dead

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci: Alive

Alexander Anderson: Alive

The Thing(Marvel): Alive

A Rancor(Star Wars) : Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNukgZ7lq6o&mode=related&search=

Gorons are a humanoid, rock-eating race that dwell in the mountains. Despite their hulking appearance, Gorons are a relatively peaceful species when they come in contact with the other races. Gorons are known to deeply respect individuals who display a great amount of strength, and particularly enjoy matching their strength with others in sumo wrestling matches (as seen in Twilight Princess). Gorons are usually considered, perhaps superficially, to be of low intelligence, although there is no particular indication of this in the games. They may also be fooled by appearances due to bad eyesight, similar to moles, as they are a subterranean species. Almost all Gorons say "goro" at the end of most of their sentences, but this was removed from the English versions of the games, save for a few rare cases such as the Goron tourist in Majora's Mask and some occasions during The Minish Cap. In Twilight Princess, Gorons often call other characters "Brother". In Ocarina of Time Darunia even referred to the King of Hyrule as his "Sworn Brother". The name "Goron" may come from the phrase "goron, goron", a Japanese onomatopoeia for the sound of a rolling rock.

[edit] Biology

Gorons are physically larger than an average human. They appear to be muscular, but their large bellies provide contrast. They maintain a strict diet of rocks, iron and water which might be the cause of the development of a rocky formation on their backs. From the size of the Goron Elder's growths in Majora's Mask, it would seem that these continue to grow throughout their lives. Due to their enormous weight, they are helpless in water because they will sink to the bottom and might not be able to get up to the surface. They don't seem to need to breathe though, as is seen in Twilight Princess - this may be due to their overall mineralized nature, as opposed to a more organic one. It is apparent in the Goron world that some Gorons grow to exaggeratedly huge sizes (though very rare), as seen in the case of Biggoron and his younger brother Medigoron, who were several hundred times larger than others of their species. Another feature of Goron biology is their ability to curl into a fetal position (with their heads tucked between their legs). This is the Goron's position when resting, but they also use it for transportation. Gorons can roll in this position, gradually speeding up until they reach speeds near 60 MPH. Gorons who are endowed with fairy magic can grow stone spikes while rolling. Gorons are also resistant to heat, to the point of being able to walk through shallow lava. This is a valuable capability when searching for food inside mountains. It has been suggested that Gorons in fact are made of a rocklike material and it is mentioned in "Twilight Princess" that Gorons are rock. It could explain most of their characteristics and why Gibdos aren't interested in them (as shown by Goron Link in Majora's Mask). Some older Gorons even have small smoking craters on their heads or bodies (seemingly as a result of aging). Most of them also have tattoos on their arms (usually present on both bicept muscles and occasionally on other parts of their bodies), which are often tribal-style patterns and the most common symbol is a spiky pawprint shape resembling the Goron's Ruby (belonging to the tribe leader, Darunia, in Ocarina of Time). They consider Rock Sirloin and Rock Brisket to be a delicacy, though they also enjoy the metal in shields and Lava Soup. A confusing quote from a Goron suggests that they also eat green rocks, which may imply that they can eat some vegetation.

[edit] Gender

The Gorons who appear in the games never show any visible cues to indicate their gender, and all Gorons who are referred to in the third person in in-game dialogue are called "he" and "him." It is possible, though, that referring to "him" and "he" to Gorons may not be gender pertaining at all. Furthermore, in Goron culture it is customary to call other Gorons "brother," as well as those who have earned the title (like Link and the King of Hyrule) - this practice is not limited to males, however. In Twilight Princess, a Goron elder refers to a young woman as "brother", although still using feminine pronouns to refer to her. Gorons are presumably all male, as outside of the manga no female or feminine-looking Gorons have appeared; another possibility is that they do not normally distinguish between genders. It is unclear how they reproduce, but they are obviously able to as Darunia bears a son in Ocarina of Time, named after Link. Goron males appear to remain fertile well into old age; the ancient Goron Elder of Majora's Mask has an infant son. Feminine-looking Gorons have been known to appear in the Legend of Zelda manga, but the manga are considered non-canonical.

[edit] The Goron "special crop"

Gorons grow Bomb Flowers, their "special crop" which resemble bombs in both appearance and function. These look like a standard bomb with a flower growing on top, and 3 large leaves growing outwards. Bomb Flowers will only grow in a dark area, except in Wind Waker, where Bomb Flowers were present outside in a light-bathed environment. Underneath the "bomb" is the stem (with the leaves growing out), but normally this is not visible. Bomb Flowers break easily from their stems and once plucked they soon explode (although not as soon as would a regular bomb). The stem and leaves of the flower are bomb-proof so a bomb-flower can not blow itself up, perhaps a defense-mechanism. Apparently Gorons use the plant for mining. These plants make an appearance in The Wind Waker on Dragon Roost Island. Bomb Flowers are also grown in the northern region of Labrynna (it is the main export of the Rolling Ridge Goron tribe) and the volcanic world of Subrosia (specifically, in Lava Lake) in the Oracle games. In these games, it is safe to assume that Bomb Flowers are more powerful than ordinary bombs, since in Oracle of Seasons, regular bombs would not suffice in the task of blowing up the excess of rock in front of the temple. They also make an appearance in Ocarina of Time, in which the bomb flowers are used before gaining the bomb bag in Dodongo's Cavern, they are also used to gain entry to Dodongo's Cavern, and are known to take up to twice as long to explode as a regular bomb. In The Wind Waker, bomb flowers are more blue in color and don't take as long to explode as Bombs do. They grow on Dragon Roost Island mainly, but are also found on small islands around the Great Sea. In Four Swords Adventures, Bomb Flowers grow practically everywhere.

[edit] Goron Society

Apparently, Goron culture revolves around brotherhood, honor, and strength. It appears that they find mining their ancestors' corpses honorable and perfectly acceptable. They are a peaceful, sometimes indolent race, although they are quite large and strong. Most Goron societies seem to rely on a few (sometimes only one known as their clan's Patriarch) powerful warriors to protect the entire clan. Usually, tribes have one or more respected elders that aid in the management of the clan's various affairs. Due to the toughness of the Goron race and the shortage of deadly predators in their environment, some tribes get along well with no warriors at all. As mentioned above, Gorons are often considered to be dull-witted, though a more accurate description would be "simple." They prefer basic pleasures such as eating, dancing, and bathing in Hot Springs, though some are also skilled craftsmen, blacksmiths, or sculptors. They are fond of drums as seen in Majoras Mask. In Twilight Princess, Gorons also enjoy sumo wrestling. Another notable aspect is that in Ocarina of Time, all Gorons love to hear the music of the Kokiri Forest (known as Saria's Song) that comes through a secret passageway to the Lost Woods. Upon hearing this music the Goron's spirit is lifted, all depression and stress disappears, and they want to just dance like crazy.

[edit] Gorons in The Wind Waker

In The Wind Waker, three Gorons, traveling merchants, are seen on separate islands, although their race is never explicitly referred to. The Goron symbol appears on their packs, and if the player uses the Deku Leaf to blow a gust of air at one of them, his hat will temporarily fly off, revealing his surprised, and clearly Goron, face. According to one of the Gorons, they hail from a faraway land, possibly Labrynna or Holodrum, and are only in Hyrule on business.

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[Giovanni Rild]

[edit] Gorons in Twilight Princess
[B][SPOILER]
In Twilight Princess, the Gorons have constructed a large mining complex within Death Mountain and they have also become more mechanical and industrialized developing magnetic cranes and elevator systems. The Gorons are governed by four tribal Elders and their Patriarch Darbus. In the game, Link is at first not at all welcomed by the Gorons, who attack him on sight. Their tribe's Patriarch, Darbus, had become possessed by the dark magic of the Fused Shadow which transformed him into an uncontrollable monster: the Twilit Igniter Fyrus. The four Goron Elders managed to subdue him and lock him away deep within the mines for the safety of the tribe and cut off relations with Kakariko Village. Link is forced to beat the elder, Gor Coron, in a sumo wrestling contest (using the Iron Boots to even the playing field) to earn their respect and gain entry to the Goron mines. In the mines, he is forced to fight the armored Goron, Dangoro, that protects the Hero's Bow and eventually the transformed Darbus. After freeing Darbus from the influence of the Fused Shadow, the Gorons restore relations with Kakariko Village, many of them (including two of the Goron elders) venture down to Kakariko to help (one young Goron sets up a small shop that opens at night; while the two Goron elders help Malo Mart collect donations to rebuild the east bridge of Castle Town and buy the overpriced shop in Castle Town). The Gorons also help Link by restoring the southern pathway that leads into Castle Town and by selling him arrows, lantern oil, potions, hot spring water, etc. Link can also save a Goron who accidentally got himself encased inside the hardened chunk of molten rock that he uses to unfreeze Zora's Domain.

The Gorons love bathing in hot springs and enjoy sumo wrestling (though its popularity seems to wane among the younger Gorons). The mayor of Ordon, Bo, is one of a few people known to have beaten a Goron at sumo (the other would be Link) in his youth, thus gaining the respect of the Gorons. However, he used the Iron Boots to level the playing field (as Gorons are heavier and stronger than the other races in Hyrule). Link later borrowed the Iron Boots from Bo, and gained respect from the Gorons the same way. However, one Goron does threaten Link if he finds out he cheated somehow.

Twilight Princess is the first Zelda game where Link must fight Gorons. It is the first game to feature a Goron boss (two, to be precise). Link also fights regular Gorons at first, but they are more obstacles than true enemies, as they can not be defeated, only stunned.[1] It should also be noted that child Gorons in Twilight Princess take on the appearance of Gorons from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, while regular Gorons take on larger and more mature appearances. Gorons in Twilight Princess also wear simple clothing, generally a loincloth wrapped over their hips, whereas previous games have not featured Gorons regularly wearing any clothing.

[EvilMoogle]

Who will be left standing after a direct hit? Keep in mind that Fūton: Rasenshuriken attacks on a cellular level

Wolverine = KO'd, but will come back eventually.

Ryoga = Dead or dieing at least

Deathstroke = Dead or dieing at least

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci = Dead or dieing at least

Alexander Anderson = Should be dead, however may heal since F:RS doesn't seem to kill instantly.

The Thing(Marvel) = Lives.

A Rancor(Star Wars) = Dead, assuming it can effect something that big on the same level that it does a human.

[Pipboy]

Goron seems to = rock, so dead or dying as FRS has no probs with rock

EDIT: moogle, how on earth would Lucci be harmed by something that couldn't penetrate his skin? Tekkai hardens it to the point where there is no dermal abrasion by even a blow that can bisect trains. Without any abrasion, there is literally no give to the skin, therefore the size of the projectiles is immaterial as they are faced with a solid wall.

The strength of Lucci's Tekkai is such that there is no way that if Kakuzu could draw breath he would even be harmed, and the rapid fragmentation of the attacks damage means no, its even less likely to hurt him seriously.

[Giovanni Rild]

Goron seems to = rock, so dead or dying as FRS has no probs with rock

They also can survive being submerged in lava for a indefinite amount of time.

[~Shin~]

Goron seems to = rock, so dead or dying as FRS has no probs with rock

EDIT: moogle, how on earth would Lucci be harmed by something that couldn't penetrate his skin? Tekkai hardens it to the point where there is no dermal abrasion by even a blow that can bisect trains. Without any abrasion, there is literally no give to the skin, therefore the size of the projectiles is immaterial as they are faced with a solid wall.

The strength of Lucci's Tekkai is such that there is no way that if Kakuzu could draw breath he would even be harmed, and the rapid fragmentation of the attacks damage means no, its even less likely to hurt him seriously.

You do understand that you don't have to pierce the skin to lice the cells right?

[Rellik]

Wolverine - Survives

Ryoga - dead

The Goron Champion = dead

Deathstroke - dont know

(Cat Form)Rob Lucci - dead

Alexander Anderson - survives

The Thing(Marvel) - survives

A Rancor(Star Wars) - dead

I agree and a little note on FRS, there are about 60 trillion cells in your body and if we assume that the FRS only affected the torso (Which I think is a good assumption) about 1/2 to 3/5's of a person's proportions. FRS hit 30-36trillion cells, it must have had a huge concentration to hit every single one of those cells. Wolverine with his god regen and adamantium dome might even die taking a hit to the face and the blades getting to his brain through the eye socket.

[Sylar]

FRS hasn't killed anybody yet.

So everybody survives for that reason.

They be hurt, but they won't die considering they all are tougher than Kakuzu without his iron skin, and he didn't.

[Giovanni Rild]

FRS hasn't killed anybody yet.

So everybody survives for that reason.

They be hurt, but they won't die considering they all are tougher than Kakuzu without his iron skin, and he didn't.

Kakuzu was good as dead. He was ripped to shreds. Only his head remained.

[Darklyre]

I agree and a little note on FRS, there are about 60 trillion cells in your body and if we assume that the FRS only affected the torso (Which I think is a good assumption) about 1/2 to 3/5's of a person's proportions. FRS hit 30-36trillion cells, it must have had a huge concentration to hit every single one of those cells. Wolverine with his god regen and adamantium dome might even die taking a hit to the face and the blades getting to his brain through the eye socket.

No way in hell does current Wolverine die to an FRS. He can regenerate from nothing but his skeleton, apparently, since adamantium beta is bonded directly to his bones.

[Pipboy]

You do understand that you don't have to pierce the skin to lice the cells right?

You do indeed need to pierce the skin. Lycing is a matter of direct physical contact between the cell and the lycing agent. For the same reason that you can stick your hands in contaminated blood and as long as your skin is cut free it won't contract anything.

The projectiles from the FRS are very tiny and move very rapidly, but that is immaterial to the fact that skin under the effect of tekkai is not normal. Its density has increased and its intermolecular bindings have hardened. Not only that but its systemic hardness that passes at least through the dermis into the musculature beneath.

If one can increase the density or somehow reinforce the skin against a blow like a bullet then the degree of rigidity and durability demands.

IE Whatever the Needles hit will stop them. When the needles do find an opening, which from their size is literally impossible, they will hit another cell as there is no such thing as a direct path into the body. Chances are they can't even make it past the epidermis because any solid matter they meet will be under the effect of Tekkai and will be hundreds of times harder than what they can be effected.

The FRS is not a chemical attack. It attempts to do damage through microscopic physical assault, which is still physical assault.

[Giovanni Rild]

You do indeed need to pierce the skin. Lycing is a matter of direct physical contact between the cell and the lycing agent. For the same reason that you can stick your hands in contaminated blood and as long as your skin is cut free it won't contract anything.

The projectiles from the FRS are very tiny and move very rapidly, but that is immaterial to the fact that skin under the effect of tekkai is not normal. Its density has increased and its intermolecular bindings have hardened. Not only that but its systemic hardness that passes at least through the dermis into the musculature beneath.

If one can increase the density or somehow reinforce the skin against a blow like a bullet then the degree of rigidity and durability demands.

IE Whatever the Needles hit will stop them. When the needles do find an opening, which from their size is literally impossible, they will hit another cell as there is no such thing as a direct path into the body. Chances are they can't even make it past the epidermis because any solid matter they meet will be under the effect of Tekkai and will be hundreds of times harder than what they can be effected.

The FRS is not a chemical attack. It attempts to do damage through microscopic physical assault, which is still physical assault.

I agree.:notrust

[MdB]

Kakuzu was good as dead. He was ripped to shreds. Only his head remained.

Really?
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter341hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26362
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter342.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26474
His limbs where still connected with the rest of his body.


The characters that I know are more durable then Kakuzu without his iron skin Jutsu. They will survive it.

[Giovanni Rild]

Really?
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter341hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26362
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter342.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26474
His limbs where still connected with the rest of his body.


The characters that I know are more durable then Kakuzu without his iron skin Jutsu. They will survive it.

Ok. I missed that. He was still in pieces.

[Endless Mike]

I agree with Pipboy

[~Shin~]

You do indeed need to pierce the skin. Lycing is a matter of direct physical contact between the cell and the lycing agent. For the same reason that you can stick your hands in contaminated blood and as long as your skin is cut free it won't contract anything.

The projectiles from the FRS are very tiny and move very rapidly, but that is immaterial to the fact that skin under the effect of tekkai is not normal. Its density has increased and its intermolecular bindings have hardened. Not only that but its systemic hardness that passes at least through the dermis into the musculature beneath.

If one can increase the density or somehow reinforce the skin against a blow like a bullet then the degree of rigidity and durability demands.

IE Whatever the Needles hit will stop them. When the needles do find an opening, which from their size is literally impossible, they will hit another cell as there is no such thing as a direct path into the body. Chances are they can't even make it past the epidermis because any solid matter they meet will be under the effect of Tekkai and will be hundreds of times harder than what they can be effected.

The FRS is not a chemical attack. It attempts to do damage through microscopic physical assault, which is still physical assault.

I'm inclined to agree.

[Shuntensatsu]

Wolverine is the only one that I am positive would survive.

Thing,AA, and Rob Lucci might be able to live through it as well, but they would be in very bad shape.

[Badalight]

Considering i don't know 2 or 3 of those guys I can't really say...

The Rasen Shuriken, as most people call it, targets individual cells.

In other words once your hit by this your screwed...

But Wolverine can regenerate, I'm sure he'd survive this if anyone.

Maby the thing since well... he has a friggen rock body o-o

I'm pretty sure the others would die...

REMEMBER, Kakazu did survive the attack but he had 3 lives... Meaning Naruto, with one attack, killed him twice and left him useless on his 3rd life.