Itachi Versus Sandaime Hokage

[HOOfan_1]

Does Sandaime have to pull out the sould sealing jutsu to take on Itachi? Does he even have a chance to try it while in Itachi's Tsukuyomi?

We have already heard Orochimaru claim that Itachi is stronger than he is and it was all Sandaime could do to keep Orochimaru from Destroying the village.

How about Sandaime's wealth of experience?

[darkwater297]

Yondaime is 4th Hokage not the third...

[HOOfan_1]

Yondaime is 4th Hokage not the third...

yeah I edited it

[Un]

Well, Orochimaru proved stronger than Sandaime and Oro said that Itachi is stronger than he is, so I think Itachi would win.

[Shirozaki]

Oro > 3rd

Oro pwned 3rd

Oro can't take Itachi

Itachi will pwn Oro

Conclusion: Itachi wins.

[Toomin]

That totally depends on how old the Sandaime is. If he's in his prime (thus not 80 years old), I think he could put up an extremely good fight, perhaps even win. He's not the God of Shinobi for nothing. However, if you mean when Sandaime is as old as he was when he fought Orochimaru, then yes, Itachi would win, though it would be difficult with Enma.

[Purgatory]

As a Hokage, he should have familiar knowledge of the Sharingan and the Uchiha family. Whether he knew about Mangekyou is unknown, so I guess it has to be assumed that he does not know, and for that, he pays dearly as he faces against Tsukuyomi. I think it could go either way. Sandaime's got the Reaper Death Seal and Enma, Itachi has Mangekyou and Art of Run.

[Kai]

Sandaime would rape Itachi in every hole possible in the human body.

[Yellow]

I can't see old Sandaime taking this because Itachi is way too fast and would put him in a genjutsu and kill him. If this were prime Sandaime it would be: Sandaime prime 51% and Itachi 49% chance of winning this fight. It would be pretty equal but Sandaime might be able to keep up with Itachi and Sandaime would have more stamina and was called the God of Shinobi so I think in his prime he has a slight adavantage over Itachi.

[mystictrunks]

3rd > Jiraiya > Itachi + Kisame > Itachi > Oro

[TreeofSephri]

Sandaime knew and Enma said that he could not beat Oro. Also I would Itachi said that him and Kisame could take Jiraiya on but would die also so that should be a equal sign. So its more like this Itachi>Oro>3rd

[Sai-kun]

Sandaime would rape Itachi in every hole possible in the human body.

Nose...two holes....
Ears...two holes....
Butt....one hole....
Mouth....one hole...
.....and.....
10 holes!!??

[orochimarusama21]

Sandaime knew and Enma said that he could not beat Oro. Also I would Itachi said that him and Kisame could take Jiraiya on but would die also so that should be a equal sign. So its more like this Itachi>Oro>3rd

ummm no the only reason the third had trouble against Orochimaru is because he summoned the 1st and 2nd Hokage's if he did not summon them then the 3rd Hokage would have killed Orochimaru. and Itachi and Kisame said that if they fought Jiraiya that Jiraiya would kill them both even if they had more Akatsuki members the result would be the same. so it like this The Third Hokage>Jiraiya and Orochimaru and Tsunade (i mean their the sanin for a reason)>Itachi and Kisame

[The Truth]

Sandaime is pretty old, Itachi wins. There really is no stopping him from copying everyone of Sandy's elemental jutsus.

[lollipop]

Itachi wins....

[MC.]

Oro > 3rd

Oro pwned 3rd

Oro can't take Itachi

Itachi will pwn Oro

Conclusion: Itachi wins.

You're most definately right.

[Jυstin]

Being Holage means nothing in Itachi's terms, "The Hokage is the strongest in the village that Itach was a part of, and thus Sarutobi's stronger." Itachi is no longer part of that village, if he was, he would be Hokage no doubt. As far as I'm concerned, he's way above Hokage, and he's only, what, 17.

[Raven Eyes]

itachi...nough said

[glenmiyashiro]

I say Itachi pwns Sandaime even with Enma, but if he was 40 years younger it would be one hell of a fight.

[Jυstin]

ummm no the only reason the third had trouble against Orochimaru is because he summoned the 1st and 2nd Hokage's if he did not summon them then the 3rd Hokage would have killed Orochimaru. and Itachi and Kisame said that if they fought Jiraiya that Jiraiya would kill them both even if they had more Akatsuki members the result would be the same. so it like this The Third Hokage>Jiraiya and Orochimaru and Tsunade (i mean their the sanin for a reason)>Itachi and Kisame


Itachi and Kisame were not talking about Jiraiya, they were talking about Kyuubi. Do you really think that Jiraiya could take on all 9 members of Akatsuki, Orochimaru was a part(just a part) of Akatsuki, and Jiraiya is weaker than him. Orochimaru was even getting beat down by Itachi while he was in Akatsuki. It goes.

Itachi>Orochimaru>Tsunade>Jiraiya>3rd Hokage(if he were younger, he'd be in 2nd place)

[allin4narnia]

Itachi and Kisame were not talking about Jiraiya, they were talking about Kyuubi. Do you really think that Jiraiya could take on all 9 members of Akatsuki, Orochimaru was a part(just a part) of Akatsuki, and Jiraiya is weaker than him. Orochimaru was even getting beat down by Itachi while he was in Akatsuki. It goes.

Itachi>Orochimaru>Tsunade>Jiraiya>3rd Hokage(if he were younger, he'd be in 2nd place)

Are you joking? They were not talking about Kyuubi. This has already been cleared up in another thread by numerous Admins and Moderators. If you still want to delude yourself into believeing that nonsense, then go ahead, but confuse others with it.

Here is the link to the thread. I think that the arguement about it starts on page 4.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=213803

I believe that Itachi would take down older Sarutobi. Sarutobi in his prime thought is another story. It would be an awesome fight but I would like to believe that Sarutobi would win. Can never be sure though as we don't know enough about Sarutobi in his prime other than the fact that he was labeled "God of Shinobi."

[ryne11]

Sharingan is too broken to lose

[Jυstin]

Are you joking? They were not talking about Kyuubi. This has already been cleared up in another thread by numerous Admins and Moderators. If you still want to delude yourself into believeing that nonsense, then go ahead, but confuse others with it.

Here is the link to the thread. I think that the arguement about it starts on page 4.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=213803

I believe that Itachi would take down older Sarutobi. Sarutobi in his prime thought is another story. It would be an awesome fight but I would like to believe that Sarutobi would win. Can never be sure though as we don't know enough about Sarutobi in his prime other than the fact that he was labeled "God of Shinobi."

Duh. I argued in that thread. And if you read to the end, you'll see that the theory that Itachi was afraid of Jiraiya was disproven. At least to the point that after Itachi met Jiraiya, he deduced that he could have taken him, but he had used Mangekyou 2 times already, or rather 3, because Jiraiya "took on" Itachi by using a jutsu behind Itachi's back while he was dealing with Sasuke. It was then decided that Itachi had to rest for overuse of his eyes and that Naruto could wait. He didn't like all that fighting anyway, he just wanted to accomplish his mission. Nevertheless, Itachi escaped this "unescapable" jutsu with to which Jiraiya commented on knowing nothing about it. He also stated that it is extremely powerful to have burnt through the toad's stomach, considering that the toad could breath fire, obviously indicating that it was fire-tolerrable.

[allin4narnia]

I see what your saying that Itachi isn't really "weaker" than Jaraiya. I do believe that was only in his current condition since he was weak from using his Mangekyou Sharingan too much. So I see your point on this. About them talking about the Kyuubi though. That was pretty much disproven also right? Hopefully we get to see Jaraiya and Itachi fight one day then we won't need to argue this ever again ^_^ That is my most anticipated fight too, if it ever happens.

[PandaBot]

hmm...i would go with itachi...tho it wouldn't be a easy win

[Jυstin]

I see what your saying that Itachi isn't really "weaker" than Jaraiya. I do believe that was only in his current condition since he was weak from using his Mangekyou Sharingan too much. So I see your point on this. About them talking about the Kyuubi though. That was pretty much disproven also right? Hopefully we get to see Jaraiya and Itachi fight one day then we won't need to argue this ever again ^_^ That is my most anticipated fight too, if it ever happens.

They were talking about the Kyuubi at some points, like when they said that it wouldn't matter how many went it. Cause if it was about Jiraiya, that wouldn't make sense, cause Orochimaru was overpowered by Itachi in that organization, which he was a part of,-snip- and if Orochimaru was just 1/10 of the members of Akatsuki(and not the strongest member either), the fact that people say that Itachi meant that even if all of Akatsuki attacked Jiraiya, they would lose, that doesn't add up. With that, they were talking about Kyuubi.

If there were a thread about Itachi vs Yondaime Hokage, I would admit that Itachi would get man-handled, even if Itachi is my fav.

[HOOfan_1]

Dude it had been established here multiple times that Itachi and Kisame were refering to Jaraiya...
1)Kisame said "never thought I'd have to go up against 1 of the Legendary Sannin....if we fight him..then both the Uchiha clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist would have there names dragged through the mud...
" umm Jaraiya is the sanin not Naruto
2)If they were refering to Naruto then why did they seem utterly unafraid of him and why did they confront him just a few hours later? Kisame's sword easily swallowed the chakra Naruto was drawing form the kyuubi

these two things make the argument that Itachi and Kisame were afraid of Naturo, utterly ridiculous


also your post is full of spoilers.

[allin4narnia]

While i still stand by what I said before, I think that people take it too literally that Itachi said Jaraiya is stronger than him. Maybe thats just his opinion out of respect for another strong Warrior, but if they fight we may find out its not true. There are way too many threads about that one episode where Itachi and Kisame decide not to fight Jaraiya head on.

Anyway, sorry for taking this thread off-topic.

[lucky]

sandaime would rape the crap out of all his holes... twice. there's a reason why only he was considered the GOD of shinobi.


Taht's right. not god of konoha nin... but god of all ninjas.



They were talking about the Kyuubi at some points, like when they said that it wouldn't matter how many went it. Cause if it was about Jiraiya, that wouldn't make sense, cause Orochimaru was overpowered by Itachi in that organization, which he was a part of,-snip- and if Orochimaru was just 1/10 of the members of Akatsuki(and not the strongest member either), the fact that people say that Itachi meant that even if all of Akatsuki attacked Jiraiya, they would lose, that doesn't add up. With that, they were talking about Kyuubi.

If there were a thread about Itachi vs Yondaime Hokage, I would admit that Itachi would get man-handled, even if Itachi is my fav.

they were so scared of naruto kisame swiped his sword and sucked out all his chakra. and was casually talking about cutting off his arms and legs. they were also so scared they confronted naruto stealthily and sneakily (ninjalike, y'know) by knocking on his door and looking at him.

[Kamina]

It depends what age Sandaime would be if he was in his early years he would put up a good fight but in his old years he will get owned.

[Jυstin]

Dude it had been established here multiple times that Itachi and Kisame were refering to Jaraiya...
1)Kisame said "never thought I'd have to go up against 1 of the Legendary Sannin....if we fight him..then both the Uchiha clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist would have there names dragged through the mud...
" umm Jaraiya is the sanin not Naruto
2)If they were refering to Naruto then why did they seem utterly unafraid of him and why did they confront him just a few hours later? Kisame's sword easily swallowed the chakra Naruto was drawing form the kyuubi

these two things make the argument that Itachi and Kisame were afraid of Naturo, utterly ridiculous


also your post is full of spoilers.

They said that pre-encounter. And only the dub mentions the Uchiha clan too, plus, Itachi put the Uchiha clan through the mud himself. After their encounter, their opinions changed a bit. And they didn't mean the Kyuubi through Naruto, they meant the full-blown beast, 9-tails and all.

[starblade876]

They said that pre-encounter. And only the dub mentions the Uchiha clan too, plus, Itachi put the Uchiha clan through the mud himself. After their encounter, their opinions changed a bit. And they didn't mean the Kyuubi through Naruto, they meant the full-blown beast, 9-tails and all.
No, even in the original anime, you can clearly hear Kisame saying "Uchiha".
Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gatana seem petty before his name.

They had no reason to be talking about the actual Kyuubi since they haven't even seen Naruto leaking Kyuubi chakra or had any reason to assume that the full-blown beast would come out.

As I was pointing out in the other thread, in episode 81, when Naruto is seen running towards Ichiraku, we see Itachi and Kisame.
Kisame: Have you located him?
Itachi: Yes.
Kisame: Then this will be easy.
Itachi: Let's go.

It wouldn't make any sense at all that they suddenly fear Naruto or Kyuubi after seeing Naruto run to Ichiraku, look for his free pass, and then eat ramen.

As for the topic, it's difficult to say because Sandaime had to fight Shodai and Nidaime instead of just Orochimaru, so the inequality of Sarutobi < Orochimaru < Itachi doesn't hold because I doubt Itachi knows Edo Tensei. It had been stated that Sandaime knew of all the jutsu in Konoha, so he might know how to not fall completely victim to Itachi's MS.

[delirium]

Let's not derail this topic like we did the Itachi vs. Kisame thread. This is about Itachi and Sandaime.

[Jυstin]

I am not admitting that they were talking about Jiraiya at all in this, but if they were, that was pre-encounter. Afterwards, remember when Jiraiya appeared, what did Kisame do, he said:

"HMHMHM, whatever name you go by, master Jiraiya, I must say, you're something of a disappointment. I lecturous old man with a disposition of a child, it's almost impossible to believe that you're one of the legendary Sannin."

This was post-encounter. Also note what is bolded.

Then when Jiraiya said to Itachi, "No way you're getting Naruto." Itachi said(with no fear or emotion at all), "Hm, we'll see about that." Does that sound like talk from someone who said he would get beaten by the person he said that to?

Then, when Jiraiya went to help Sasuke, Kisame blocked him and said(with no fear), "You heard him old man. This fight is none of our business. Let's let the two of them sort it out." And what did Jiraiya do? He obeyed.

Another thing is interesting too. If Itachi was so scared of Jiraiya, why did he ignore him and act like he wasn't a threat when he was talking and fighting Sasuke.

Then, after using his mangekyou for the second time, Jiraiya used a jutsu behind their backs that was supposed to kill them. Being taken by surprise and having just used Mangekyou, Itachi had no choice but to flee. He then used Amaterasu a minute later(which disproves your theory that he can't use Mangekyou in succession) to escape the "inescapable" jutsu.

Jiraiya even had all confidence that it was sure to kill them, but failed to do so. To which Jiraiya comented his jutsu by saying, "He did the impossible. He broke through the wall."

Kisame then commented, "So we just run away again? We do a lot of that."

to where Itachi then said, "There's no rush for now. We'll get Naruto when the time is right. Besides, I felt it wise for us to find some place to rest for a while and recharge my powers. On top of Tsukuyomi, I was forced to use Amaterasu as well. This was more exhausting than I thought."

"Than he thought." He said it was more exhausting for him. And seeing that he did not die, faint, or any of the sort, he thought pretty lighly of Jiraiya. The only reason it was so exhausting is the fact that Jiraiya used a jutsu behind his back that forced him to escape(unharmed) with a large chakra-consumming technique. He indicated in here that he did not need Naruto now, and that something more could have been done, had he not needed to rest.

Jiraiya then commented further on his jutsu by saying, "How did they do it? What did they use to escape? And these black flames, to burn this stone toad, when it has the power to spit fire itself, that is strong jutsu indeed."

First bold. He indicated no knowledge of Amaterasu, Itachi could easily have taken him by surprise with it. Jiraiya wouldn't even know that it came out of his eyes or that it needed no handsigns, he would not be prapered for it. Second bold. He was recognizing its ability to burn a fire-tolerable throat, giving detail on its destructive power. Third bold. He was commenting on its power. Indicating that it was very powerful(comming from Jiraiya.

As for proving who they were talking about in their conversation. Do you want me to bring up Kai's post to show you who was talked about? Because I will.

As to who would win between Sarutobi and Itachi. What did Itachi say, "Onle someone with the the same Kekkei Genkai Sharingan as me can defeat me." Does Jiraiya have the Mangekyou? Does Kisame have the Mangekyou? Does Sarutobi have the Mangekyou?

No, point made.

[Sharinganmaster29]

if sandaime is awared of MS and how it works(eye contact)-and i think 80% he is- he takes this

[Jυstin]

Doesn't matter if you know how it works. Did that help Kakashi? And he has a Sharingan. He had the best resistence to it. And still mentally collapsed. Itachi even could have killed him, but chose not to.

It is also not indicated anywhere that Sandaime knows about the Mangekyou Sharingan, let alone how to fight it without one.

[Sharinganmaster29]

Doesn't matter if you know how it works. Did that help Kakashi? And he has a Sharingan. He had the best resistence to it. And still mentally collapsed. Itachi even could have killed him, but chose not to.

It is also not indicated anywhere that Sandaime knows about the Mangekyou Sharingan, let alone how to fight it without one.

aaa no kakashi wasnt awared of itachi's MS
and what i said was a little logic...if sandaime knows about the jutsu..being the professer ...the one who has the knowledge of any jutsu he surely would find a way to counter it...otherwise it would be like itachi>>>>any hokage and its not

[Jυstin]

Here's a little analogy from DBZ. Freiza knew about Super Saiyans, did that help him defeat them?

[allin4narnia]

Here's a little analogy from DBZ. Freiza knew about Super Saiyans, did that help him defeat them?

if your gonna bring that shit up, Good always defeats evil right? Therefore Sandaime can't lose since Itachi is evil.

I pretty much think Hyuuchiha thinks that Itachi is unbeatable and there is no changing his mind about it so just have to wait until Sasuke beats him one day. I do agree that the list is short of who can beat Itachi but he is not invincible.

[Jυstin]

He's not unbeatable. I just haven't seen anyone in Naruto that can near match him, yet. There was one, but he's dead now. So he's not a factor. It is true, good always beats evil. But Naruto doesn't follow that as much as DBZ. What happened between Sarutobi and Orochimaru?(BTW, if Sarutobi lost to Orochimaru, and Orochimaru proved(and stated) inferior to Itachi, there is only one conclusion that can be made between Itachi and Sarutobi.

[allin4narnia]

Double post

[allin4narnia]

Yes, I already agreed with you that "OLD" Sarutobi can't handle Itachi. But, you have to remember from his fight with Orochimaru, he was fighting 2 Hokages and Orochimaru and he still held his own. I think he would give Itachi a run for his money even as an old man. In his Prime I think he would be able to defeat Itachi.

Also, its fair to assume some unforseen events could happen in certain fights and Itachi could lose to someone like Gai even though he might be stronger. You don't have to be noticeably stronger than someone to be able to beat them. A good example of this is Naruto beating Gaara. Im sure nobody would have thought he had enough power to do that until it actually happend.

[HOOfan_1]

BTW, if Sarutobi lost to Orochimaru, and Orochimaru proved(and stated) inferior to Itachi, there is only one conclusion that can be made between Itachi and Sarutobi.

not necessarily..the transitive property does not work that way in fights or sports...because different things can happen on different days and different skill sets match up against each other differently. I still think Itachi could defeat at least old man Sandaime, but you can't always use that argument...at least if a manga is put together thoughtfully.

[Jυstin]

Sarutobi(in his prime) might be able to defeat Itachi. But I still don't see how he would pull it off. I'll tell you what though. If he could beat Itachi, he'd be given a sprint for his money. I mean, he was the Hokage after all. But also, to someone like Itachi, who is not even a part of that village anymore, titles mean squat. It just means that he'd be a tougher opponent by far. But I still think Itachi could win, even if it is a hard-fought fight.

[Maikeru_Inabe]

Yeah Itachi is the cooliest. I think that he could beat the Fourth Hokage pretty easily, but we haven't really seen what he can do as of yet in the English dub (half of my friends watch teh Japanese one so I get a lot of info from them and watch a good amount myself, but don't worry: no spoilers from me). Tsukiyomi gives Itachi a HUGE advantage as we saw when he fought Kakashi. And not to mention that he broke out of Jiraiya's Toad Mouth Trap with Amaterasu (or however u spell it lol). Even Sasuke's Chidori was no match for him; he pushed it aside like it was nothing. Itachi is one of the most powerful shinobi of the Naruto Universe as you can easily see. It's difficult to answer this ? since we haven't seen a shole lot of the Fourth Hokage's jutsu, like I said b4, but I think Itachi would win.

[Jυstin]

Well, anyone BUT the Fourth. I will even admit when Itachi's beat.

[HOOfan_1]

not too much is actually known about the 4th's ability but the way talk about him, he was certainly something special..I just think it is sad that it is almost suggested that the only reason he was chosen as the 4th Hokage over Orochimaru was because Orochimaru was a crazy monster.

[Violent-nin]

In my opinion, Sarutobi in his old age he would lose the fight but give Itachi a good run for his money.

Now if Sarutobi is in his prime, I believe he would defeat Itachi. But that's just me.

:sarutobi

[#1 Shikamaru fan]

Itachi kills everyone.

[Maikeru_Inabe]

Ya know, what's surprising is that Itachi didn't kill Kakashi when he could have easily done so. The Sharingan Kekkei Genkai allows the user to see through Genjutsu, as was shown in the Forest of Death when the team was fighting the Rain Ninja and the clones, so Itachi must have known it was Kakashi's water clone (the one he stabbed in the back with the kunai). Perhaps he knows that the only two people who would stand a chance against him are Sasuke and Kakashi because they have Sharingan and he said that "only someone with Mangekyou Sharingan can kill me", so he probably wants a worthy challenger or something. I'm just throwing this out there, really.

[allin4narnia]

Yeah Itachi is the cooliest. I think that he could beat the Fourth Hokage pretty easily, but we haven't really seen what he can do as of yet in the English dub (half of my friends watch teh Japanese one so I get a lot of info from them and watch a good amount myself, but don't worry: no spoilers from me). Tsukiyomi gives Itachi a HUGE advantage as we saw when he fought Kakashi. And not to mention that he broke out of Jiraiya's Toad Mouth Trap with Amaterasu (or however u spell it lol). Even Sasuke's Chidori was no match for him; he pushed it aside like it was nothing. Itachi is one of the most powerful shinobi of the Naruto Universe as you can easily see. It's difficult to answer this ? since we haven't seen a shole lot of the Fourth Hokage's jutsu, like I said b4, but I think Itachi would win.

anyone who says Itachi could easily beat the 4th must be clueless. We can assume that the 4th is at least somewhere equal to Itachi based on his reputation alone.

[Itachi:.Uchiha17]

in his prime it would be one hell of a fight but old as he is lets just Itachi wins

[Talone]

Itachi's strong, but he's no match for a Kage in their prime, not Sandaime, nor Yondaime. Itachi might be a ninja prodigy/genius, but Sandaime and Yondaime are legends. Sandaime became Hokage at 15 and knows pretty much all of Konoha's jutsu as "The Professor", -snip-

The Sharingan is powerful, sure, but you're putting it on a pedestal, just like Orochimaru was. He has powerful doujutsu (eye techniques), but its not the only thing to be considered here. Itachi can only pull off his Mangekyou Sharingan techniques only a few times a day; if he tries anymore, he'll be burned out. Sarutobi took on 2 former Kages and Orochimaru all at once, I kind of doubt that Itachi could hold off those opponents as well as Sarutobi did, in his current (older/weaker) state.

Itachi's powerful, but he ain't the greatest in the Narutoverse. Of course, we can't really make a sound judgement here, seeing as how we haven't seen Itachi go all out, Sandaime or Yondaime in their prime, but we do know of (somewhat) their legendary status.

[Jeremy Feifer]

Itachi...check the avy, this is all the old guy would see... whats this about Itachi beating fourth...now come on Im a big itachi fan and all, but the fourth went up against the nine-tails in its true state...that I dont think Itachi could even half do.

[Jυstin]

Itachi's strong, but he's no match for a Kage in their prime, not Sandaime, nor Yondaime.

I admitted that the fourth could man-handle Itachi. But just because one is a "kage" doesn't mean they can take Itachi. Like I said, titles mean nothing to a missing-nin. If Itachi were part of Konoha, it would be safe to assume that a kage was stronger than him. If it were not so, then he would be a kage. Since he is a missing-nin, he cannot be a kage, and is not compaired by titles alone.

Itachi might be a ninja prodigy/genius, but Sandaime and Yondaime are legends. Sandaime became Hokage at 15 and knows pretty much all of Konoha's jutsu as "The Professor", -snip-

Itachi cannot beat Yondaime, but Sarutobi is nowhere near the fourtth in power. Itachi can see through any Genjutsu and copy any of the supposed Ninjutsu that Sarutobi knows.

The Sharingan is powerful, sure, but you're putting it on a pedestal, just like Orochimaru was. He has powerful doujutsu (eye techniques), but its not the only thing to be considered here. Itachi can only pull off his Mangekyou Sharingan techniques only a few times a day; if he tries anymore, he'll be burned out. Sarutobi took on 2 former Kages and Orochimaru all at once, I kind of doubt that Itachi could hold off those opponents as well as Sarutobi did, in his current (older/weaker) state.

I'm not even gonna try to explain this. Just look up what the Sharingan is freaking capable of, let alone the Mangekyou. Itachi(with his regular Sharingan) can use Genjutsu with just eye contact(and use Genjutsu another way too, but it's a spoiler). And even if he can only use Mangekyou about 3 times a day, how many uses do you think Sarutobi could stand. My answer would be only 1 without a doubt. And if Itachi can create many shadow clones in an instant, make them explode, genjutsu with eye contact, reverse genjutsu, really fast taijutsu, un-readable ninjutsu(even by a sharingan), ability to perceive, anticipate, and counter movements, copy ninjutsu, put you in a state of mental collapse, incinerate you, and catch chidoris with his bare hands, I have no doubt that he could take Orochimaru and his other Kages. And I didn't even mention what a 30% Itachi can do(that is in a shippuden episode and will not be discussed here.)

Itachi's powerful, but he ain't the greatest in the Narutoverse. Of course, we can't really make a sound judgement here, seeing as how we haven't seen Itachi go all out, Sandaime or Yondaime in their prime, but we do know of (somewhat) their legendary status.

I can go by the assessment that Itachi has never taken a scratch, never been enthusiastic in his fights, and barely had to blink in his fights. Plus, yeah, he has not even shown 50% of his capabilities. He doesn't even show 50% in shippuden either.

[HOOfan_1]

Sandaime didn't defeat the 1st and 2nd...he defeated a couple of dirt encased corpses with the 1st's and 2nd's souls....besides that he had to use the consuming seal to defeat them and Orochimaru..he died and Orochimaru lived. Who knows if Itachi can counter the consuming seal with his Sharingan or not.

[Silent Tatsumaru]

Sarutobi is the Professor. He is every bit as legendary as the Fourth. In his old/weakened state he likely could give Itachi one hell of a fight. In his prime? Itachi doesn't stand a chance.

Too many people make the Sharingan out to be some sort of ultimate jutsu, or Itachi out to be untouchable. For all we know, Itachi can't take Jiraiya on without getting seriously hurt. To beat Sandaime in his prime? Yeah, right.

Plus, Sandaime nowhere near Yondaime in power? Not so. In fact, Sandaime being the successor to Shodaime and Nidaime, knowing all the techniques of the hidden leaf, I believe Sandaime was the most powerful Hokage. He was taken down more by old age than Orochimaru, or anything else.

[.Arty ♥]

Itachi would win <3<3

[yondaime the 4th hokage]

sandaime would kill itachi

[jefu]

Prime Sarutobi would raepstomp, but older Sarutobi would go a good long few rounds, being so much more powerful than Kakashi, who survived against Itachi's genjutsu, and then probably lose. Itachi wins this one.

[ownageprince]

Sarutobi would kick Itachi's blind ass.

[Cap-ricorn]

Prime Sarutobi would raepstomp, but older Sarutobi would go a good long few rounds, being so much more powerful than Kakashi, who survived against Itachi's genjutsu, and then probably lose. Itachi wins this one.

i dont think kakashi necessarily survived. I think Itachi just let off of him

[BigGameJuice!]

I too think that Itachi would win this fight. Although Sarutobi would put up a pretty good fight.

[saint_Reginold]

Let's think about things this way. Itachi was stronger than Orochimaru when he was 11. He cut of Orochimaru's hand while extending little to no effort. I like the third hokage but if it was 1 on 1 Itachi wins. There is no way to beat a sharingan user of Itachis level 1 on 1. All Itachi has to do is trap him in a genjutsu and it's over.

[dodgekfc]

the sarutobi wins this but also could lose if he gets caught in the sharingan its over for him

[Lunar88]

Itachi. Sharingan, better than Orochimaru, and is sooooo smooth when he fights.

[Sōsuke Aizen]

itachi takes this.

[Kamina]

Itachi will win this.

[Kiba]

Itachi wins this

[Kakashi Hatake]

Hard to say but i think Itachi.

[Light Warrior]

Itachi. The Third Hokage couldn't beat Orochimaru and Orochimaru couldn't beat Itachi. It's that simple.

[Vangelis]

Itachi would most likely win since Sarutobi is aged.

[Dman]

evidence leads to itachi winning

[Stephen]

Itachi wins

[Lucien Lachance]

It would suck to lose your life to that oro (No offense to your oro lovers), but the 3rd did indeed part from this world in a fight with him...Itachi could kill oro, right? So he could probably kill the 3rd.

[Ryuk]

Oro > 3rd

Oro pwned 3rd

Oro can't take Itachi

Itachi will pwn Oro

Conclusion: Itachi wins.

Oro didn't pwn the 3rd he barley won and got his hands sealed in the process.
Just because A>B doesn't mean A>C.
Sarutobi wins this.

[yamiiguy]

Sandaime in his prime would win but Itachi would defeat the one Orochimaru faced.

[10000ruekergabarrage]

Itachi would have destroyed sandaime. Now itachi v.s yondaime/minato, i would love to have seen...

[allin4narnia]

Guys, transfer properties don't work in fighting. Just because Itachi > Orochimaru and Orochimaru > Sarutobi, doesn't mean that Itachi > Sarutobi.

Rock Lee beat Naruto and Naruto beat Neji. So therefore Rock Lee can beat Neji??? I am pretty sure that doesn't sound right eh?


I do believe that Itachi can beat Old Sarutobi(who has little stamina left). But I also think that a young Sarutobi would be a pretty even match with Itachi. And I would lean towards Sarutobi winning that fight. Remember when Sarutobi caught Orochimaru experimenting new Jutsu. He would have killed Orochimaru right there and Orochimaru knew it, he just didn't because his heart was torn since Orochimaru was his favorite student.

[Velliano]

Itachi beats old Sarutobi

Sarutobi prime curbstomps Itachi

[Haze is Dreamin']

Hokage wins this battle easily.

[Nesha]

Itachi would probably win, but I'll still vote for the Third.

[marveluz]

i think dat it would be a really tight battle, sealing vs tsukuyomi, enma vs ameratsu
s rank criminal vs hokage itachi would pull off da win though

[Matto-sama]

if this is old sandaime then it would be close, he fought 3 kage-level nin and just barely lost. If he was in his prime he rapes Itachi

[Linkdarkside]

Itachi wins easily prime or not prime, no one can defeat Tsukuyomi exsert a Sharingan user.

[GreenKnight]

i dont think so, but its up to you :P

[Sasuke]

Uchiha Itachi stomps.

[Grimmjow]

I give it to Itachi.

[Purge]

Itachi pwnz all.

[ZigZag]

I think Itachi.

[Vault]

itachi i think