Pai Mai vs Hyuuga Neji

[Heartgobbler]

Two legendary martial artists:

Pei Mei (Kill Bill, Volume II)

and

Hyuuga Neji (Naruto)


Which of them would be victorious?

[Gaelek_13]

Not really a contest since Neji is an Anime character and can defy reality a whole lot better. How can Pai Mei stop a flurry of kunai with attached exploding tags?

[Heartgobbler]

Well, when he was attacked with a sword, he dodged it by jumping on top of it. And he needs only 5 jabs to score a kill as opposed to 64 that incapacitate.

And throwing bomb tags isn't really Neji's style.

[Purgatory]

Is Pai going to have the Inner Coils System in this battle?

[Orion]

Pai Mai puts his fist through him hehe,neji should win but of course we never saw Pai Mai's limits since the only fight we saw was him playing and it was a complete beatdown.

[The Internet]

In his prime Pai Mai could win

[master bruce]

for everyone thinking pai mei even has a chance think of this.


neji moves so fast he could barely be seen(he was a complete blur)

neji can see superfast movement that are far faster than pai mei'sin slow motion.

neji has numerous jutsu other than just taijutsu.

neji has reflexes that are near godlike(see them fight where he hit hundreds of spiders all coming at high speed all at once/forest fight)

neji is just as skilled as pai mei in taijutsu(martial-arts)

neji can cut off chalkra to any of pai mei's body parts in one touch.(pai mei throws a punch nad is paralyzed by a mere finger tap)

neji can kill pai mei with one hit to the chest(dimak), while pai mei knows this technicque too, neji is fast and before at it.


neji won't allow pai mei time to do the exploding palm techicque, neji would have hit him 10 or 20 times before he could finish it.

even if pai mei went all out, I doubt he would be able to compensate for the speed of neji's movement and reflexes or for the fact that neji could send him flying with one hit or for the fact that neji could see every movement he would do in slow motion(plenty of time to react).


Neji can also see all around him at once, through martial-arts training it is only possible to heighten perrenphrial vison and hearing,but even if pai mei has hearing that could detect an attack from behind by a normal even peak human fighter, neji is far above that in speed/quickness.Neji woul easily move in from behind him and k.o. him before he could react.

Neji too smart in battle and quick on his brain to allow pai mei to out strategize him and once the fight actually started strategy would be enough for pai mei to compensate for neji's(low level) superhuman abilities.

Neji versus pai mei is like bloodlusted hulk versus wheelchair bound k-fed.



Neji:"For an old man you're fast, but to me,hpmh...All your punches look like they are coming in slow motion. I'll make this quick."

Pai mei:" Vhat? you dog! I'll kill y-...uhhh"
(neji has just stopped the flow of chalkra to pai mei's heart with multiple superfast finger taps to the chest before pai mei could finish his sentence.)


Neji:"I've just stopped the chalkra flow to your heart old man... this means...that you're already dead."
(Neji smiles, turns walks away.)

Pai mei drops dead.

[Hype]

Pai Mai plucks both his eyes out

[Gaelek_13]

Saying Neji wouldn't do something because it's not in character is retarded.

He's a ninja and armed with the standard ninja gear and basic Jutsu.

If he was seriously going to die and could see the attack coming are you saying he wouldn't use Kawarimi if he knew Kaiten was useless? Or Bunshin for a tactical avantage?

[Heartgobbler]

Saying Neji wouldn't do something because it's not in character is retarded.

Not at all. A character's personality is a very important aspect in battledome fights. If I said, lets say, that Spiderman could win a battle by taking hostage, everyone would disagree, wouldn't they?

[Gaelek_13]

Not at all. A character's personality is a very important aspect in battledome fights. If I said, lets say, that Spiderman could win a battle by taking hostage, everyone would disagree, wouldn't they?

That's true and you raise a very good point. However in this case if Neji had the weapons and tools at his disposal and knew for fact he'd get his ass kicked otherwise it's not too far of a stretch to say he'd use them even if it wasn't necessarily his style.

[master bruce]

neji is his superior in too many ways to name them all.

pai mei has the skill easily, he has neither the eyesight,the speed,the strength,the hitting power, the jutsu(besides taijutsu), the chalkra control/ki/chi control, or the pure brutal rawness to keep up with neji.


at most he can hope to get maybe oneof his finger jabs in before neji knocks him 50 feet through the air, and that wouldn't happen because he wouldn't even be able to touch neji.


this is like my kenshiro versus scar thread(God I don't know what the h#ll I was thinking when I made that one), Pai mei will get the h#ll kicked out of him.


Neji destroys all.

[Esponer]

I believe that for most of Part I, Neji's taijutsu skills are not adequate for him to fight against Pai Mei. Neji's skills are impressive but they are not worthy of being called legendary, and while playing around Pai Mei hinted at having anime level capabilities. Experience, knowledge and anime level capabilities are going to outstrip the young Neji, even if he uses jyuuken. Neji may be a young master of jyuuken, but Pai Mei can use very similar techniques himself.

The Hakke Rokujuuyonshou is the only saving grace Neji has in Part I, and I'm going to be a little controversial and say that it won't work. It's difficult to say as we never saw Pai Mei get serious (his most serious moment was jumping on top of Beatrix's sword faster than she could see, and that felt like playfuness to me), but I suspect that Pai Mei has the skill to avoid the Hakke Rokujuuyonshou.

As of Part II, I think that Neji will scrape a victory against Pai Mei, with a lot of help from Hakke Kuushou.

All of this depends on how stupidly unrealistic Pai Mei's skills are. I think he was just playing with Beatrix, and so we only have a lower bound to his skills. To be able to jump on top of someone's sword mid-thrust -- someone skilled, as well -- he is certainly displaying inhuman reflexes. To stand there casually with her not dropping the sword, he can also defy gravity partially. If both of these skills are part of a vast array rather than being his two solitary talents, then he's quite scarily powerful.

[X]

Pai Mei is gonna pluck Neji's eyeballs out.

[Neko]

Pai Mei is gonna pluck Neji's eyeballs out.

Yupz!:nod :nod

[Random Nobody]

Pai Mai takes this I'd say. He's shown Superhuman abilities well playing around. If Neji's lucky, Pai Mai won't kill him and/or take his eyes.

[thegoodjae]

Pai Mai takes this I'd say. He's shown Superhuman abilities well playing around. If Neji's lucky, Pai Mai won't kill him and/or take his eyes.

^? so has every ninja in naruto shown superhuman abilties, liek jumping great distances and from tree to tree, being able to land from a cliff to a ground wihtout breaking anything.... pai mai loses really badly, if i remember correctly, speed difference of these two wil lbe way too huge.

[blacklusterseph004]

Neji wins easily. He can basically beat Pai Mei to death because NAruto characters are stronger and faster than normal humans. Besides which the Byakugan make Neji virtually impossible to hit. If Lee can't land a hit on Neji without doing a reverse lotus, I don't see how Pai Mei is going to do it. Added to that, if Neji does a Kaiten at close range, Pai Mei is fucked anyway.

[master bruce]

it doesn't matter how legendary pai mei's skills are.


he is based on realistic type level fighter/human.
all his feats even though he was playing were nowhere near the insane level feats that take place on naruto.

pai mei's feats can be easily copied by any skilled wise martial arts master(except for the one where he stood on the sword while she was holdin it). And before anyone starts blbbing about exploding palm, thats nothing, there are "real" martial arts moves that require only one hit the give you massive heart attack, there are multiple types of dimak(death hit) moves that have even been proven by sciene(the real sciene) to actually deliver the force and power neede to decimate the heart's ability to perform and kill an opponent instantly not after they've taken five step.

hell with pai mei's move an opponent could still kill you before they drop dead, with something like dimak the opponent is unconsoius almost instantly and dies within seconds after if not revived.

and not just anyone can revive you, so you die.






lets see someone slow down time with superhuman eyesight like byukugan,

lets see someone jump 20 feet straight up into the air from a standing or crutching postion,

lets see someone move so fast across several yards/meters that they are almost invisible.

lets see someone destroy hundreds of fast moving spiders all falling at you at once from every direction,

lets see someone spins around sending chalkra/ki from every direction powerful enough to detroy almost everything in its path even if the opponents are all around you,

lets see someone see miles in a single direction by directing their eyesight,

lets see someone stop multiple kunai thrown all at once with one hand,

pai mei's "legendary" skills aren't squat compared to what neji can do,
neji could easily without effeort at all copy every feat that pai mei can do,



can pai mei do the same?!?

I seroiusly doubt it.

I'm not downplaying pai mei's skills cause I think he was cool, hell I love kill bill(one of the greatest movie sagas ever, be glad when quentin makes the third installment.),but pai mei is just no match for neji.


if he could manage a hit with the exploding palm he could kill neji,but quite frankly neji is 1. too fast for him to touch. 2. has rotation that will not let pai mei through(rotation stops all attacks even just physicall one like kunai or in this case pai mei's punches/kicks/sword) 3. neji will see pai mei's fastest attacks in instant slow motion that is just insane to imagine.

Now seriously, how do you propose pai mei will beat neji?!?


Neji destroys all.

[Random Nobody]

^? so has every ninja in naruto shown superhuman abilties, liek jumping great distances and from tree to tree, being able to land from a cliff to a ground wihtout breaking anything.... pai mai loses really badly, if i remember correctly, speed difference of these two wil lbe way too huge.

So a Superhuman beats another superhuman because he's superhuman? Nice logic there. Besides I don't remember Neji's speed being all that impressive.


lets see someone slow down time with superhuman eyesight like byukugan,


Neji has never slowed down time with his vision.


lets see someone jump 20 feet straight up into the air from a standing or crutching postion,

lets see someone move so fast across several yards/meters that they are almost invisible.


Pai Mei jumped on top of a trained assassin's sword mid-thrust and plucked out another assassin's eye before they could react. We also have nothing to indicate he was even trying in either of these situations.


lets see someone spins around sending chalkra/ki from every direction powerful enough to detroy almost everything in its path even if the opponents are all around you,

lets see someone see miles in a single direction by directing their eyesight,

lets see someone stop multiple kunai thrown all at once with one hand,


Yes because Kaiten is such a great defense that only everyone Neji has fought has found a way around it. His seeing for miles just prevents him from being snuck up on which Pai Mai wouldn't do anyway, and I remember Neji spamming Kaiten every time someone tosses Kunai at him, though I admit I might have forgot about a scene.


Neji destroys all.

He didn't destroy Kisame-clone. smile-big

[thegoodjae]

So a Superhuman beats another superhuman because he's superhuman? Nice logic there. Besides I don't remember Neji's speed being all that impressive.



Neji has never slowed down time with his vision.



Pai Mei jumped on top of a trained assassin's sword mid-thrust and plucked out another assassin's eye before they could react. We also have nothing to indicate he was even trying in either of these situations.



Yes because Kaiten is such a great defense that only everyone Neji has fought has found a way around it. His seeing for miles just prevents him from being snuck up on which Pai Mai wouldn't do anyway, and I remember Neji spamming Kaiten every time someone tosses Kunai at him, though I admit I might have forgot about a scene.



He didn't destroy Kisame-clone. smile-big

okay well neji beats a skilled martial artist with somewhat super human cabailities who showed speed feats les immpressive of a genin. neji had hundreds of spiders falling against him and knocked all of them down besids his blindspot. this is a spee feat greater than pai mei.

neji's reaction speed when it comes to fighting is ten times faster than pai meis. pai mei wont be ablet to use his secret move either because neji would definantly get his attacks in first before paimei due to h aving more range because he can emit charkra out his body from anywhere. there is no way pai mei can get close. you DO NOT want to go taijutsu or hand to hand with neji or even get close. in a certain range, he can just emit charkra out his body killing you. when has anythin close range hurt him besides narutos lucky little underground assualt?
exactly what can pai mei do to get close to neji before neji starts emitting charkra out hsi body killing pai mei? exactly, there is no way he can get close to nejis body..

[master bruce]

so when the spiders were falling time didn't slow down?
Wrong. You know it. Neji saw all those spiders moving in slow motion just like in every fight where he uses byakugan he can see in slow motion(unless he is fighting someone with far superior speed. Pai mei doesn't have anywhere near the speed needed to surpass byakugan slow motion vision.), sharingan does the same thing just byakugan is better at it.

Neji does have superspeed he has been shown to move at incredible speeds and his reflexes are even faster than his running speed.

I doubt pai mei can move so fast that he appears to be a blur or even a line to people who are a distance off watching the fight.
Neji has done this.


So to someone who is right there he'd look as though he disappear and reappear.

I refuse to believe that pai mei is anywhere near neji's running or reflex speed.
Cause he is not.

Pai mei did impressive things against normal assassins, neji whoops superhuman killing machines on the regular.


people who neji has curbstomped would make pai mei piss in his pants.


Oh and he didn't destroy kisame water clone, but pai mei would not have lasted 5 seconds.


Neji>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pai mei.



Neji destroys all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pein]

pai mai maybe a genius but even the greatest of genius's fall to mediocrity before the hyuga

[Random Nobody]

so when the spiders were falling time didn't slow down?
Wrong. You know it. Neji saw all those spiders moving in slow motion just like in every fight where he uses byakugan he can see in slow motion(unless he is fighting someone with far superior speed. Pai mei doesn't have anywhere near the speed needed to surpass byakugan slow motion vision.), sharingan does the same thing just byakugan is better at it.

Time never slowed down. Any kind of slow motion effect would be something the anime did because I've read the manga and no one has ever stated the Byakugan can slow down time, or make thing appear to be moving slower. It's only powers are seeing the chakra points, being a telescope, and almost 360 degree vision.


Pai mei did impressive things against normal assassins, neji whoops superhuman killing machines on the regular.

If by regular you mean one time and he barely won that fight.

people who neji has curbstomped would make pai mei piss in his pants.

He only curbstomped Hinata and she's not gonna make anyone piss their pants.


Neji destroys all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could list the people that curbstomp him if you want. smile-big

[thegoodjae]

i could list people taht can curbstomp pai mei....neji.

[Random Nobody]

I'm not even that worried about who wins anymore, I was just pointing out the inaccuracies in Master Bruce's argument. I'll admit upon checking out their feats again that pre-skip Neji could probably take him. Post loses for being almost as worthless as the rest of former genin (minus Team 7 and Broken Shikamaru obviously).

[thegoodjae]

yeah i get what you saying.

but its obivous post would win if he went jounin and his genin feats were around good neough to stomp pai mei. its just he went against fricken kisame and that cheap ball no cover jutsu haha.

master bruces arguements were somewhat flawed but because most of his dealed wiht anime. but w/e

[master bruce]

I do read some manga,but not alot.

I watch both english and jap versions of all my anime though, so I still get the good stuff that english version like to filter out.


You might not have seen it, but byakugan does give you the ability to see things slower the they happen. Sharingan does the same thing.
Byakugan doesn't just give you 360 degree vision,see chakra, and seeing great distances, it allows you to see even the small things. It also, gives you the ability to see things slowed down.

You don't have to believe it, but its true.

[thegoodjae]

i get what you saying but you are wording yourself wrong. it doestn slow dow time, but wit hte byakugan, he is able to see and react faster. sharingan is predicting looking at body movements and stuff where something will go next, basically enhance your eyes ability to see alot faster and react faster too alsmot same wiht byakugan but used in different ways. i think thats what randomnobody was tryna point out.

[master bruce]

i get what you saying but you are wording yourself wrong. it doestn slow dow time, but wit hte byakugan, he is able to see and react faster. sharingan is predicting looking at body movements and stuff where something will go next, basically enhance your eyes ability to see alot faster and react faster too alsmot same wiht byakugan but used in different ways. i think thats what randomnobody was tryna point out.



I see. I get what you said.

I was trying to say the same thing that he can see in a slow motion type vision cause he sees everything you do as if it were slow motion or something like that.
Just was using the wrong wording.

I see what you're saying. its cool dude.