The NEW Mother Fucking Shiranui Genma FC

[Okeaninai]

Ah, one of the Disney Pixar Movies... I hope it wasn't Toy Story your talking about, that was really the only one that was good.

It is awesome. <3 On Genma's level of awesome, imo.

ha, well, i'm not so sure about that per se.....

[martryn]

Ah, one of the Disney Pixar Movies... I hope it wasn't Toy Story your talking about, that was really the only one that was good.

Up and the Incredibles were also good. The other ones are meh. I hated both Bug's Life and Cars.

[Toomin]

They were the lamer Pixar flicks. I also liked WALL-E, Finding Nemo, both Toy Story's and Monster's Inc.

[martryn]

Wall-E is incredibly overrated. I can't see how anyone can like it. I mean, not only does it say that humankind will destroy the planet, we'll also become fat and lazy.

[Okeaninai]

"Up"? I don't recall ever hearing about a movie with that title. The only good thing about 'Finding Nemo' was the sea turtles. From a more aesthetic stand point the jelly fish sequence was really impressive. I thought 'The Incredibles' was largely boring, and, 'Monster's Inc', well, I guess it was ok.

Never did see all of Toy Story 2, but I liked what I was able to see.

[martryn]

"Up"? I don't recall ever hearing about a movie with that title.

About the grouchy old man flying his house using helium filled balloons and accidentally kidnapping a cub scout? It came out this year. It's good. Look for it.


The only good thing about 'Finding Nemo' was the sea turtles. From a more aesthetic stand point the jelly fish sequence was really impressive.

I've only seen bits and pieces of Finding Nemo, but I really disliked the sea turtles. I hate it when movies point out stereotypes. That's one reason I hated Cars.

I thought 'The Incredibles' was largely boring

I loved it. Compared to other super hero movies, like X-Men, it was awesome! It was really cool to see what a family of super heroes would be like at home

[Toomin]

I loved The Incredibles the most out of all Pixar movies, I think. The Toy Story movies tie for second.

WALL-E is difficult, cuz it definitely has problems, but I think the fact that the first half functions without any dialogue is absolute genius.

[Okeaninai]

I think the fact that the first half functions without any dialogue is absolute genius.

:amazed wait so, there's no dialogue in the first half? Now that is interesting. Not enough to make me go watch it, but that's interesting, and rather impressive.

. I hate it when movies point out stereotypes. That's one reason I hated Cars.

hm - what was so bothersome about how they did it here? Particularly since it's during this segment where the dad's (can't remember his name right now) more or less learns to have faith in his own son.

Compared to other super hero movies, like X-Men, it was awesome!

:wha You really liked the Incredibles more than, let's say, the first X-Men movie? wow, that's different.

[martryn]

WALL-E is difficult, cuz it definitely has problems, but I think the fact that the first half functions without any dialogue is absolute genius.

If the movie didn't have any humans in it I would have been happy. If the movie didn't feature any other robots I would have been happy. Maybe hints of massive destruction or something like that throughout, a bloody past, something like that. If Wall-E was digging through the remains of a Fallout3 Washington DC, without any intelligent life left on the planet, still hopelessly trying to follow his programing, the story would have hit a note with me.

As it was, only the first fifteen minutes meant squat to me.

hm - what was so bothersome about how they did it here? Particularly since it's during this segment where the dad's (can't remember his name right now) more or less learns to have faith in his own son.

The entire surfer dude mentality of the turtles was annoying. I hate stereotypes like that playing such a huge role in the movie. I know they can't have racial or religious stereotypes anymore in film, but any stereotype is retarded.

And I hated Cars because the message sucks. It pretty much tells kids, hey, you can be a hot shot asshole with no respect for rural people and this will make hot chicks like you, even when you're mean to them, and old people respect you, even if you treat them like shit. The main character in Cars is an asshole for most of the movie, yet he ends up getting everything handed to him despite that. Fuck that.

You really liked the Incredibles more than, let's say, the first X-Men movie? wow, that's different.

Fuck yeah. I loved the Incredibles a lot more than the first movie in the Wolverine trilogy. The Incredibles had better developed characters all around, cooler fight sequences, and a lot more action and humor. The plot was a bit cliche, but you can say the same for the X-Men movie. And everyone in the Incredibles was at one point useful in the film, and each member contributed equally to the success of the "good guys".

The X-Men movie was all about Wolverine and Rogue. There were no awesome fight sequences until the very end, and Wolverine did all the work. I mean, there was the subway stuff, which was only ok, and the fight in Canada between Wolverine and Sabretooth, which was lame, and that was really it. Most of the movie is a snore fest. X-2 was far and away better. Fuck, the first Fantastic 4 film was more exciting and had a better plot.

[juturne]

Pixar isn't always excellent but they've definitely put a long needed boost into the animated film industry. I have to admit that 98% of everything I watch, big screen or small, is animated and most of their films have been entertaining enough to watch thru til the end.

I think you're over analysing Cars though ^ I personally don't even feel it's the industries duty to teach a lesson- just entertain; and given that it's a movie about talking Cars it actually wasn't too bad. Much better than what I expected at least.

What do you guys think of the new 3-D animation trend?

[martryn]

I think you're over analysing Cars though ^ I personally don't even feel it's the industries duty to teach a lesson- just entertain; and given that it's a movie about talking Cars it actually wasn't too bad. Much better than what I expected at least.

It's not as if the movie was trying to teach a lesson, but it's there, in the story. The main character isn't likable for the first hour of the film. He's a complete jerk and yet the "hot" female car falls for him despite that. It disgusts me. The movie is practically shouting at kids, "Be good at sports, treat others like shit, and life will reward you."

What do you guys think of the new 3-D animation trend?

I saw Up in 3-D this year. I didn't want to, but they didn't give you the choice of non-3D. I can't remember anything 3-D about it, but I do remember that the glasses were heavy and dug into my skin. I say leave 3-D for movies aimed at kids under 5 and for IMAX experiences in museums.

[Aman]

Hey LE! :glomp Did you SEE how Kakuza and Hidan reacted when he showed up?

I never really got why that typo is so commonplace. :P

[Toomin]

Pixar isn't always excellent but they've definitely put a long needed boost into the animated film industry. I have to admit that 98% of everything I watch, big screen or small, is animated and most of their films have been entertaining enough to watch thru til the end.
Agreed, if you're solely talking about Pixar here.

I think you're over analysing Cars though ^ I personally don't even feel it's the industries duty to teach a lesson- just entertain; and given that it's a movie about talking Cars it actually wasn't too bad. Much better than what I expected at least.
But when the "lesson" is there, then what? And almost all stories like that have some kind of moral--I agree that Cars' was a little sketchy. Now, I think it also is an ode to 50's culture, particularly car culture, and I don't think (haven't seen the movie in ages, so I can't be sure) the main character stayed a jerk the whole move, I thought he changed partway through. But I could be wrong...

What do you guys think of the new 3-D animation trend?
Can't say with authority, cuz I haven't seen a movie in 3-D yet, but I will say that some directors are excited by the "possibilities" (again, if they truly exist, I don't know about them) and that's a good thing I suppose, if it encourages creativity.

You really liked the Incredibles more than, let's say, the first X-Men movie? wow, that's different.
Not really. X-Men 1 sucked compared to X-2--too many characters, not enough time spent with any of them except Logan and Rogue, and Rogue is, tell the truth, kinda boring. No decent fight scenes either.

Hey LE! :glomp
I never really got why that typo is so commonplace. :P
Huh? What'd I do?

[Koi]

I come.. with Genmarts!

http://img05.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img5/12514/125145284919493.png

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http://img05.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img5/12518/1251885383673720.png
Follow the link, there's all sorts of little Genmas in the comments-
http://pipa.jp/tegaki/VBlog.jsp?ID=333989&TD=9846795

http://img01.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img3/12283/1228313320644572.png

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[Toomin]

KKKOOOOOOIIIIIIIIII. Them's some goood fanarts, I do say. New ones too...

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN????

[martryn]

Koi, where the fuck have you been? You've been ignoring us? *sniff* I don't smell, and I certainly can't bite you.

Anyways, thank goodness you came back in time to save the thread from getting off-topic. /sarcasm

I so bad want to put a Genma set back on, even though I'm content with mine, it just doesn't feel like me.

[Koi]

I've had work and class and family crap and ugh. D8

You have the Genma banner, though? Who is that in your set right now? I have no idea who that character is. xD

I think I had a few more fanarts to post, but I need to dig through my giant picture folder to find them.

[Toomin]

That's why I hang around. I'm the perma-Genma sig guy.

EDIT: My Picture folder in ginormous, too. It's a anime/manga fan thing...

[martryn]

I've had work and class and family crap and ugh. D8

I care little for your excuses!

You have the Genma banner, though? Who is that in your set right now? I have no idea who that character is. xD

Yeah. Old school. Not a lot of people on the forums still use the small banners like that anymore. I was always a fan. I thought they looked cute.

If you haven't read Ares, you need to. It's freakin' great.

EDIT: My Picture folder in ginormous, too. It's a anime/manga fan thing...

I used to have quite the collection of Genma fanart, but I didn't transfer it from one computer to another, and I lost it all. Probably for the best. It was a bit obsessive. Still, I did have enough to do "Month of Genma" sets, where I'd switch out my avatar and sig everyday for another Genma related one.

[Toomin]

Is Ares on Onemanga.com?

[martryn]

Is Ares on Onemanga.com?

Yes, though it's being released slowly.

[Toomin]

Okey doke. I'ma check it out.

[juturne]

In another FC someone mentioned the interview where Kishi was saying if he did a spin-off then one focusing on Minato would be the most likely. I guess that agewise Genma wouldn't make it into that series if it were based on his childhood but wouldn't he be featured if it focused on Minato's days as a sensei? Can you imagine- young Genma training as a genin/chuunin! Of course, I personally feel he deserves his own spin-off (something featuring all of the lmid gens would be lovely!!!!!) but little Genma I wouldn't mind seeing that one bit!!!!

[bug_ninja]

Hi Genma fc. smile-big

Anybody home?

[juturne]

Check one up ^ Gave us an interesting idea for thought and discussion although he's thinking more of focusing on young Minato. Too bad...

[martryn]

I think the best spin-off would feature ANBU, and Genma would make a good character in an ANBU based spin-off. Maybe one featuring Kiba, Shino, and Hinata as ANBU, with Genma, Raidou, and a few others as serving sorta like squad leaders for them on missions. I think that would be pretty kick ass.

[Toomin]

Hell, a spinoff involving any of the Rookie 9 as older jounin/ANBU types, or the current jounin when they were younger would be awesome. Also, any of DrerrRedclaw's fanfics would be incredible.

[Okeaninai]

any of DrerrRedclaw's fanfics would be incredible.

Oh? :hmm why is that? It's on the rare side to have fanfiction mentioned in such a way. Where do I find such fanfics to check out?

Minato :wha - I have no idea who this is. When do you first see this guy? And, try not to spoil it too much, I'll catch up with Shippuden...

[martryn]

I have no idea who this is. When do you first see this guy? And, try not to spoil it too much, I'll catch up with Shippuden...

You see him first in Kakashi Gaiden. If that doesn't give it away, it's Yondiame Hokage.

[Toomin]

Oh? :hmm why is that? It's on the rare side to have fanfiction mentioned in such a way. Where do I find such fanfics to check out?
*is glad to have another potential convert*
Right here. (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/93938/DrerrRedclaw) Read "The Game" and "Examination" first. I gots more authors for ya when you finish that, but this guy is the best.

You see him first in Kakashi Gaiden. If that doesn't give it away, it's Yondiame Hokage.
Lol, way to give it away. :P

[juturne]

Thanks for the links ^ !!!

[martryn]

Found a shit ton of Genma fanart, but I'm not one for posting it. Thought this one was too good to not share, though:

http://i37.tinypic.com/2uyiykn.jpg

Fucking Genma pirate.

[juturne]

Now I have a reason to like pirates!!!!

Hey is there a Genma photobucket page? There has to be!

[martryn]

We had a private fanart folder that the members of the FC had the password to at one time, but I've forgotten it.

[juturne]

No!!!! Cause then you could post all your finds there without having to do it here... Aw! I'm disappointed.... But I can tell that you've been delving into the Genma fanart lately. I love your new sig and avvie!!!! ^

[martryn]

Thanks. I've got a ton of material now to work with.

[juturne]

So, can we count on new Genma pics thanks to a new sig/avvie every so often???

[Toomin]

Thanks for the links ^ !!!
You're very welcome. Lemme know whatcha think of them. :amuse

Found a shit ton of Genma fanart, but I'm not one for posting it. Thought this one was too good to not share, though:

http://i37.tinypic.com/2uyiykn.jpg

Fucking Genma pirate.
Bad ass.

Thanks. I've got a ton of material now to work with.
You've definitely had that sig before....I 'members it.

[martryn]

So, can we count on new Genma pics thanks to a new sig/avvie every so often???

Maybe. I don't know. My avatar is actually from this pic:
http://i38.tinypic.com/mlihhy.jpg


http://i38.tinypic.com/3480cvq.png
http://i34.tinypic.com/10zvdb7.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2mcxfgo.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/2zqr1gi.jpg

You've definitely had that sig before....I 'members it.

It does seem familiar, but I don't remember ever having used it. Maybe.

[Toomin]

OH, what about that one by Technoelfie!? With Kurenai and the graveyard and stuff?? Badass one...

[Shiranui]

How could I not join this?

[martryn]

How could I not join this?

The fuck should I know? Your name is Genma's name. Seems like it'd be the first thing you should've done when you joined the forums.

[Toomin]

Welcome new member!!

[Jayka]

:oh

I joined a long time ago, but I never posted again! Shame on me!

Loved seeing all those fanarts of him on the last page! :X3

[martryn]

Yep, you sure did join a while back, Jay. But, no sweat, you're here now and that's what matters. Is that Kiba's hot sister, Hana, in your set?

[Jayka]

Thanks :amuse This time I subscribed to the thread, so I won't forget it again.

That's right. It's Hana. :amuse The guy is Shino

Kishi seems to have forgotten about her, just like Genma. That's really sad.

[martryn]

In all those threads where they ask you who you'd do, or what girl you'd want to date, etc from Naruto, I always answer Hana. I've always been a fan.

[Toomin]

I've always said Temari or Tsunade, honestly....:P

[juturne]

That looks like a pretty accurate Shino without the glasses.

[Jayka]

In all those threads where they ask you who you'd do, or what girl you'd want to date, etc from Naruto, I always answer Hana. I've always been a fan.That's very nice! :amuse

I don't reply very often in threads like that, but I'd say Genma :awesome Or Kiba from the younger generation.
That looks like a pretty accurate Shino without the glasses.Yes, my thoughts exactly! :amuse Myr did a really amazing job on that!

[martryn]

I don't reply very often in threads like that, but I'd say Genma Or Kiba from the younger generation.

Ah! You're a chick. Wasn't readily apparent. Even happier to have you in here.

[Sasori-puppet#100]

Hey, FC :hurr

[martryn]

I've decided at the beginning of the new year to reset the rankings in the FC. Most of the Ruling Council aren't present, and I feel as if it's wrong to keep them in their lives of luxury.

[Toomin]

Sounds fine to me, lol. Are you dismantling the Ruling Council entirely, or just re-assigning positions?

[martryn]

Sounds fine to me, lol. Are you dismantling the Ruling Council entirely, or just re-assigning positions?

Reassigning. No need to do anything too drastic.

[Jayka]

Ah! You're a chick. Wasn't readily apparent. Even happier to have you in here.Lol, I thought it was obvious. But I'm glad it makes you even happier :amuse

I'm just poor common folk now. It means I can only grow in ranks or stay the same of course

[Ryan]

I've decided at the beginning of the new year to reset the rankings in the FC. Most of the Ruling Council aren't present, and I feel as if it's wrong to keep them in their lives of luxury.

*waits for the the beginning of the new year*

martryn, you can't have all the cool fan arts. Seriously, post more!

[martryn]

martryn, you can't have all the cool fan arts. Seriously, post more!

I can't remember what I've posted already. I'll just start from the beginning of my folder and upload what I have.


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[Okeaninai]

Kishi seems to have forgotten about her, just like Genma. That's really sad.

I'm still not up to date so i may just be behind the curve but, what's Genma's connection to Hana?

Ah, and Toomin, thanks for the links, I'm checking them out now.

I don't remember what was up with the Ruling Council aspect, what was that all about again?

I love that pirate cosplay :pirate:urahaha

[martryn]

I'm still not up to date so i may just be behind the curve but, what's Genma's connection to Hana?

There is none that I can think of. We only got on the subject due to Jayka's sig. I still support Genma x Shizune all the way.


I don't remember what was up with the Ruling Council aspect, what was that all about again?

If the FC ever needs to make important, world shaking decisions, then the Ruling Council will be the ones to vote on it and the Knights will be the ones to enforce it.

[juturne]

Wow! This FC has a round table? How democratic and such.

[martryn]

Wow! This FC has a round table? How democratic and such.

Yes. We just need an excuse to use it.

[LightningElemental]

Marty? Your avatar? It's sexy. :nod

[Toomin]

There is none that I can think of. We only got on the subject due to Jayka's sig. I still support Genma x Shizune all the way.



If the FC ever needs to make important, world shaking decisions, then the Ruling Council will be the ones to vote on it and the Knights will be the ones to enforce it.
I don't think that's ever happened, though, has it? We need some world altering events to force the Ruling Council into action...

[Jayka]

http://i37.tinypic.com/nozkg5.gif
I don't think I saw that one already. I love it! :X3

[martryn]

Marty? Your avatar? It's sexy.

I know. Every time I look at I get impressed with myself.

I don't think that's ever happened, though, has it? We need some world altering events to force the Ruling Council into action...

Yep. The Ruling Council is just as laid back as Genma is.

[Toomin]

Lol, emulation of the Genma in all things, that's our motto. I read a fanfic once where a character described Genma as being "so laid back, he's practically perpendicular." :P

[Aman]

You'll hurt the nostalgia if you edit the ranks, martryn! XD

Oh well, guess it wouldn't be fair to the new, active members if you left it untouched.

[martryn]

You'll hurt the nostalgia if you edit the ranks, martryn! XD

Oh well, guess it wouldn't be fair to the new, active members if you left it untouched.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And most of the new members still haven't been active enough to do more than displace one or two people. krigarinna and I talked a lot back in 2005 and I will always hold her in the highest, and fondest, of regards. Course, I'm convinced now that she's dead. And I raised sunshine and gasoline like a son. And lady_ivan and her naming her dog Genma? *sigh* I still have the Genma Dog avatar saved on my computer. It'd be hard to let some of these people go.

[juturne]

Well I don't mind staying a minion. My love for Genma is great but I was definitely a latecomer and I should suffer as such.

[martryn]

Well I don't mind staying a minion. My love for Genma is great but I was definitely a latecomer and I should suffer as such.

Keep posting in this thread and you might make it for the revamping of 2010. The current council became so after only two years or so.

[Toomin]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And most of the new members still haven't been active enough to do more than displace one or two people. krigarinna and I talked a lot back in 2005 and I will always hold her in the highest, and fondest, of regards. Course, I'm convinced now that she's dead. And I raised sunshine and gasoline like a son. And lady_ivan and her naming her dog Genma? *sigh* I still have the Genma Dog avatar saved on my computer. It'd be hard to let some of these people go.
I remember S&G! Good dude....is he still on NF?

[martryn]

I remember S&G! Good dude....is he still on NF?

No, he's dead or something. He was an admin at one time. That makes me proud, as I helped raise him from newbhood to adminship.

[Toomin]

Ah, I see. That sucks. Hey, I started here as a newb, too!

[Jay-sama]

Here make a banner out of this.
make it happen

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7711/genmavssasuke2dz6.gif


Also this motherfucking post is supossed to be on the front page.



GENMA MOTHAFUCKAZ

[martryn]

Fucking fantastic! I'll have to definitely put that on the main page.

[LightningElemental]

Awesome. :laugh

[Toomin]

Damn. That's good. That's really good. That's like that think Spectrum did for the Aoba FC with that page from the Hidan and Kakuza arc...

[juturne]

@A-Jay- That is absolutely brilliant!!! Reps to you, my man!!!! Hope you don't mind if I pimp this over in another FC- can't resist!!!!!

[Jay-sama]

it's all yours mate.

[Toomin]

Uh whoa. I shoulda repped you for the sig too......I'm just going to stare at it for a while, kay?

[juturne]

Holy shit! Genma actually shows up in the new anime opening!!!! He's badly drawn but still....!!!!!

[Aman]

Juturne's right, he actually shows up! :D

[Toomin]

Damn. You think it's a sign? Like, the animators are Genma fans too?

[martryn]

Damn, had to go watch it for myself, and sure enough, he's there. Not for very long, and you'd miss him if you weren't looking, but I paused it and there he was.

Watching that opening made me want to watch the anime again. I have to be strong and resist because the anime has let me down and I will never again allow myself to be hurt.

[Sarutobi Asuma]

Martryn, did you watch the Immortals arc?

[martryn]

Martryn, did you watch the Immortals arc?

I watched the Asuma fight. And I watched most of Kakashi vs. Kukazu. I'll go and watch the badass fights on YouTube or something, but I don't watch the anime AT ALL otherwise. Haven't since Anko and Naruto went on a mission in one filler and met mermaids. Shit got too gay.

[LightningElemental]

Mermaids? In Naruto? :notrust

[martryn]

There was a fish girl. I know there was. And Anko got beat by someone so Naruto turned around, summoned Gamabunta, and beat him instead, and I was thinking, why can't Anko just beat him. She's a jounin.

[LightningElemental]

Wow. I suppose it's a good thing I never kept up on the anime. :laugh

[juturne]

There was a fish girl. I know there was. And Anko got beat by someone so Naruto turned around, summoned Gamabunta, and beat him instead, and I was thinking, why can't Anko just beat him. She's a jounin.

Don't forget that was filler. And even if it wasn't excellent it gave Anko some character development and Ino was in that arc! So I'm still rather fond of it. Plus there is this random black villager that Ino speaks with while they're out gathering information. I always thought that was special for the Narutoverse while awaiting the introduction of Cloud country.

Remind me there's something I wanna add about Genma and the animation but I gotta run now...

[martryn]

Don't forget that was filler. And even if it wasn't excellent it gave Anko some character development and Ino was in that arc! So I'm still rather fond of it. Plus there is this random black villager that Ino speaks with while they're out gathering information. I always thought that was special for the Narutoverse while awaiting the introduction of Cloud country.


It had a fish girl. That's an unforgivable crime in Naruto.

Course, with the recent manga release it seems that Naruto officially does suck. I was still holding out hope it wouldn't fall completely from being a decent manga, but now it has.

[Jayka]

Currently I'm watching the anime, because I like this arc.

I kind of lost interest in the manga too.
It just has too many characters and the whole focus on the Uchiha's bores me.

[Toomin]

It ought to bore you, Kishi overal development of the Uchiha into the most important ninjas in Naruto is just a pile of wankery. It used to piss me off. Now I'm just numb. Speaking of which, is Madara's plan the craziest thing you've ever read or what? I think Kishi was tripping some serious balls when he wrote that.

[juturne]

Yeah, the whole moon eye thing is total crap. So what happens when the moon isn't on your side of the globe? Are you set free... Well who really cares? Cause he won't win.

So that Genma thing. I wanted to talk about the messy animation of the characters. It seems that it was done by the top graphics artist of the series- the one who does the movie animation and the BIG arcs like the zombie twins when they feel like shelling out the big bucks. Well apparently his drawing style looks like crap when the characters aren't moving- hence the sloppy looking Genma. He's also the one who made Chouji look like hell back when he was digging holes behind his house when Shikamaru went to fetch him for their revenge mission. That has got to be some of the worst friggin' character renditions I've ever seen!

[martryn]

It ought to bore you, Kishi overal development of the Uchiha into the most important ninjas in Naruto is just a pile of wankery. It used to piss me off. Now I'm just numb. Speaking of which, is Madara's plan the craziest thing you've ever read or what? I think Kishi was tripping some serious balls when he wrote that.

Agreed. I sorta want to go back and move forward with our Naruto rewrite. Really. Like, the series was ok up until the chuunin prelims, and then it started becoming inconsistent. Sasuke winning his fight there was lame. Naruto winning his fight was lame, against both Kiba and Neji. Then the series was ok up until the SRA where Neji and Chouji somehow pulled through from their death scenes. Anything after the timeskip blows balls.

So that Genma thing. I wanted to talk about the messy animation of the characters. It seems that it was done by the top graphics artist of the series- the one who does the movie animation and the BIG arcs like the zombie twins when they feel like shelling out the big bucks. Well apparently his drawing style looks like crap when the characters aren't moving- hence the sloppy looking Genma. He's also the one who made Chouji look like hell back when he was digging holes behind his house when Shikamaru went to fetch him for their revenge mission. That has got to be some of the worst friggin' character renditions I've ever seen!

I'd comment, but like I've said I don't watch the anime anymore. I think I know what you're talking about, though. These were the same guys that likely did the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight at the Valley of the End. And that fight was full of faces and poses and stuff that looked retarded, despite being really well animated otherwise.

[jkingler]

Wave Arc = peak. Chuunin exams = decent. SRA = meh. Everything after = /facepalm

Re: Genma: Could anyone link to the current OP so I can see Senor Senbon's brief screentime?

[LightningElemental]

:jk!!! :wtf

Senor Senbon. :lmao

[Sarutobi Asuma]

Hey guys ^^

[Sarutobi Asuma]

-Editing-... ...

[Sarutobi Asuma]

Hey guys, I'm making a tribute towards Shikamaru and Asuma. It's not done yet, I'm going to be adding more effects soon. The Shikamaru and Asuma were from two seperate screenshots turned into one. I hope you guys like it so far. :ano
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/Zailos376/dontletgo2.png

...Asuma.... :cry

[jkingler]

@LE: Senor Senbon indeed. He sorta has that Latin Lover feel to him, don't you think?

[juturne]

@ Sarutobi- commented on that in Asuma FC. Man I hate seeing him down like that.... :cry ...message received.

That makes me think... Gooba hasn't been round to answer my alliance request over there... :notrust

Hey! How about a Genma - Team 10 FC alliance??? I know they'd get along well, just didn't think to ask up until now.

[martryn]

Hey! How about a Genma - Team 10 FC alliance??? I know they'd get along well, just didn't think to ask up until now.

I don't see a problem with it, though I don't see the connection. I suppose that Shikamaru interacted with Genma during the chuunin exams. And Genma was around and fought the Sound 4 first.

Hey guys, I'm making a tribute towards Shikamaru and Asuma. It's not done yet, I'm going to be adding more effects soon. The Shikamaru and Asuma were from two seperate screenshots turned into one. I hope you guys like it so far

I think it's a great start. Still needs some tweaking, though. It's going to look great when you finish it and I can't wait to see it.

Thought I'd post some more Genma fanart real quick, while I'm here. Some of it will be old, but I'm getting around to dumping my entire folder, so I'm not going to skip anything.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1z4zk3o.gif

http://i35.tinypic.com/5xncjc.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/hv860w.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/e0lqnr.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2d0atj9.jpg

[juturne]

Thanks for sharing your fanart finds! I really like the mid gen bar scene even if Genma's not the center of the pic. I mean, wow! Raido's there too!!!!! Not enough art out there with the third tier characters.

Great! Adding alliance before I sign out! Genma's awesome, Team 10 is awesome- that's enough for me!!!!

[Aman]

As a Jiraiya fan, I'm going to make sure to watch this fight.

The OP overall was unusually well made compared to what we've come to expect from Naruto (even though it was an OP). And the part with Jiraiya was epic.

[Jayka]

Thought I'd post some more Genma fanart real quick, while I'm here. Some of it will be old, but I'm getting around to dumping my entire folder, so I'm not going to skip anything.
http://i35.tinypic.com/5xncjc.jpg

Love those fanarts! That cosplay is awesome! :)

I always skip the opening and ending, but I will check it out now. ^^

[martryn]

Another good cosplay for Jayka, and a few more fanarts from my folder.


http://i38.tinypic.com/qz3mzm.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/5bz8u1.gif

http://i34.tinypic.com/2nbr3hl.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/14tpxrr.png

http://i36.tinypic.com/ajmgbm.jpg

[juturne]

Ok- which one of you bugged the reps to turn into little Genmas??? :nuts

Question- is Genma an official ANBU or is he just often drawn that way?

[martryn]

Question- is Genma an official ANBU or is he just often drawn that way?

I don't remember anything about Genma in ANBU. I think the association is due to the ANBU being present during the Chuunin finals.

[juturne]

Just wondering cause you see a LOT of fanart with him in ANBU garb but I always thought it would be too difficult for him to wear a mask AND suck a senbon.

[Koi]

Yeah Genma isn't ANBU, but I'm sure he'd be good at it. And he'd look pretty badassed in all that gear.

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs20/i/2007/296/b/6/Genma_by_Sideburn004.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/151/9/2/Stay_Cool___Genma_by_mayonaka_ni_sakayume.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/152/d/9/GENMA_X_HAYATE_by_manes117.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/164/f/a/Shiranui_Genma_by_Sideburn004.jpg
Apologies if these have been posted already. :3

[juturne]

Not denying he'd be great but then ANBU always seem to turn into fodder.... I've been rather disappointed.

[LightningElemental]

Ooh, that first fan art is lovely. I'm a sucker for nice pen shading. <3

[Jayka]

Another good cosplay for Jayka, and a few more fanarts from my folder.


http://i38.tinypic.com/qz3mzm.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/5bz8u1.gif

http://i34.tinypic.com/2nbr3hl.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/14tpxrr.png

http://i36.tinypic.com/ajmgbm.jpg

Aww, thank you! :D I love cosplay-pics when well done.

Yeah Genma isn't ANBU, but I'm sure he'd be good at it. And he'd look pretty badassed in all that gear.

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs20/i/2007/296/b/6/Genma_by_Sideburn004.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/151/9/2/Stay_Cool___Genma_by_mayonaka_ni_sakayume.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/152/d/9/GENMA_X_HAYATE_by_manes117.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/164/f/a/Shiranui_Genma_by_Sideburn004.jpg
Apologies if these have been posted already. :3Love that fanart too!

Genma looks good in anything :druul

[juturne]

Genma looks good in anything nothing.

Corrected :zaru

[Jayka]

That's even better! :druul

[juturne]

Glad you approve!!! 'Bout time there was another female in here (even if I haven't been around all that long...). But there is something very charming about Genma. I think it's even more the attitude than the looks. I love how laid back and observant he is.

[Toomin]

Not denying he'd be great but then ANBU always seem to turn into fodder.... I've been rather disappointed.
Ah, that's because Kishimoto's an idiot who doesn't understand that black ops guys are supposed to be look badass. Never mind. Rest assured that they are. I mean, they'd have to be, right? Anyway, the thing with everyone drawing the jounin in ANBU garb comes from, I think, the idea that all the jounin must have been in ANBU at some point as part of their training or as a second job.

[LightningElemental]

There's been another female in here for ages. :ninja

Yes, much love for the laid-back, suave Genma. <3

[Toomin]

Been two, really. LE and Koi. :amuse

[juturne]

Yeah ^ Great to know!!! Nothing against the guys but I hadn't sensed too much female presence around here. Go Genma for luring in the girls! :)

Don't wanna see Genma as an ANBU if it's just to get offed like all the others. But then I just wanna see him fight! No more "fades to black," please...

[Toomin]

Yeah ^ Great to know!!! Nothing against the guys but I hadn't sensed too much female presence around here. Go Genma for luring in the girls!
Zactly. More guys like Genma (and Shikamaru) need to be in Naruto, rather than douches like the Uchihas. :nod

[martryn]

To tell the truth, I think the best ANBU team would be Team 8. They all seem to have the covert ops thing going for them. Kiba is an excellent tracker, Shino is great at traps and strategy, and Hinata would be amazing as a scout. Add in a jounin like Genma and you've got yourself a nice combo team for search and destroy missions.

[juturne]

Ok- another ANBU question. In ANBU the guys wear their tattoo on their left shoulder but the girls on their right, right?

[martryn]

Ok- another ANBU question. In ANBU the guys wear their tattoo on their left shoulder but the girls on their right, right?

Never heard of that. If you're going off manga evidence then it could also be a slip up on Kishimoto's behalf.

[Toomin]

I just think the tattoo is badass.

@Marty: Well, they'd be a great spy/reconnaissance team for sure.

[Tarou]

An amazing new fan art by Mannmaruu (http://mannmaruu.web.fc2.com/framepage01.htm):

http://image.haaga.org/~tarou/muut/Gen003.jpg

[Toomin]

DAYUM. That's an awesome one, great find Tarou! Reps for you...

[LightningElemental]

Oooh. <3 ....

[juturne]

Never heard of that. If you're going off manga evidence then it could also be a slip up on Kishimoto's behalf.

Yeah, trying to figure out if it's a slip up or not. All the guys have had them on their left shoulders but Hayate's girlfriend (?) seems to wear hers on the right.... just looked at Narutopedia and they say it's to differentiate between the genders so I'll take that as a yes.

[martryn]

Bump for Genma justice! I'd post fanart, but I'm off to bed right now. If someone replies before I wake up, I'll post some tomorrow.

[Okeaninai]

Replies to what?

[martryn]

To this thread, of course. I just don't like seeing a couple of weeks go by with no activity in here, that's all. This FC has been around too long to die over something this stupid.

[Toomin]

Yo! I return...what's up guys?

[Okeaninai]

hasn't it always had periods of "quiet" throughout it's existence? It's pretty impressive if it hasn't.

[Toomin]

Yeah, this place is like a sine wave. It has high points of activity (usually started by marty, me, or LE), and then troughs of silence. :amuse

[martryn]

hasn't it always had periods of "quiet" throughout it's existence? It's pretty impressive if it hasn't.

Of course it has. But that doesn't mean I like it.

Yeah, this place is like a sine wave. It has high points of activity (usually started by marty, me, or LE), and then troughs of silence.

We have our loyal followers. This FC is the first thing I really owned on the forums. If for no other reason, I'll keep posting on NF just to keep the FC running strong.

[jkingler]

Could someone make that new fanart (http://image.haaga.org/~tarou/muut/Gen003.jpg) into an avy for me? I'll totally change my avy if it looks snazzy. :nod

[Toomin]

I could try my hand at it...you just want the head?

[jkingler]

Si. Solamente la cabeza, por favor.

[Aman]

Wicked avy! :omg

[LightningElemental]

Yes indeedy. *approves* XD

[Toomin]

Awesome. I guess you likes it then, jking?

[jkingler]

No! I hate it! Get it offa me! :uwah

:lmao

[juturne]

Ok, I just got back from voting (only did it for one reason...not important here). Genma got NO nominations. NONE! ZILCH! ZERO! WTF???!!!???

[MidnightToker426]

^

Yeah me too! :anger

Even if he didn't appear in the manga he should still be voted better then those that do YEAH

[Okeaninai]

Oh I forgot about (or rather, disregarded) those Naruto Awards (I'm assuming that's what your talking about). What is that that he should had been nominated for?

[martryn]

Damn, if someone would have mentioned it, I would have voted for him on something. We could have marshaled the FC and rallied support for Genma. That sounds like something the old FC would have done. I feel as if I've let everyone down.

[Toomin]

Damn, if someone would have mentioned it, I would have voted for him on something. We could have marshaled the FC and rallied support for Genma. That sounds like something the old FC would have done. I feel as if I've let everyone down.
Nah, it's ok man. We were all lax on this--but I think none of the categories could have fit Genma. Best Side Character, I suppose, but there aren't enough of us Genma fans left to make a sizable vote...

[martryn]

I suppose, but there aren't enough of us Genma fans left to make a sizable vote..

Kishimoto's fault. These newbies haven't seen enough of him. Sasuke rescue arc was like four years ago.

[Toomin]

Wow, true. So long ago....I got started with the Chuunin exams, myself. Read the beginning, Wave arc, etc later.

[martryn]

I came in about the Rescue Sasuke arc. At least, that's when I caught up. I likely got into the series around the start of the Sannin arc, but I DLed the episodes one at a time from some peer-to-peer program back in early fall 2004.

[Okeaninai]

oh damn how time flies. That was really 4 years ago? Funny, I just got out of the Sannin Arc (currently re-watching part 1).

I seam to remember, when I was playing catch up on that first run-through, downloading (via torrents) a lot of the episodes in packs for a good while. Can one still find part one like that? Or even part 2, now that it's what, 100 and some episodes in?

[martryn]

I don't DL or watch the anime at all. I only look on YouTube every now and then for the badass fight scenes, which are becoming less and less badass.

[Sarutobi Asuma]

Hey FC, been a while since I posted here. My
apologies. :smoke You guys like my new set?

[martryn]

You guys like my new set?

The avatar, yes. The smoking cig, yes. Creed and the red rep... not so much.

[Sarutobi Asuma]

I love negativity. :awesome Haha anyway, it's getting
late. I'll be sure to post here more often. Later dude! :smoke

[martryn]

Quick, men, Genma's lovable sidekick, Hayate, has come under attack. I know at least a few of you will want to fucking dropkick a mother fucker that bad mouths Hayate, so I say, TO ARMS!

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=569240

[Toomin]

Good call, sir! I left my two cents, and then some!

[martryn]

Careful, my brothers! They neg rep in that thread!

[juturne]

Yikes! And I do like Hayate but I can't think of one good thing to support him... And then everyone always compares him to Genma since they were the two proctors and I really do prefer Genma. I mean, at least he's healthy...

[Okeaninai]

They do? I didn't know the two were compared at all.

It is hard to say much about him as he did die before you could really get a good feel of who he was and what his special skills were. There isn't anything in existence that actually says what sickness he had is there?

I don't DL or watch the anime at all. I only look on YouTube every now and then for the badass fight scenes, which are becoming less and less badass.

really? oh wow. So, if you liked the battles, why not watch some of the anime? Or do you read the manga instead?

[martryn]

really? oh wow. So, if you liked the battles, why not watch some of the anime? Or do you read the manga instead?

I read the manga. Doesn't mean I'm liking it. This week's chapter was better than most.

[Okeaninai]

So Shippuden (sp?) isn't living up to part 1? That's rather disappointing to hear.

[martryn]

Part 1 hit it's peak in the chuunin exam prelims. This was before Naruto was able to beat Neji by utilizing some ground digging jutsu that he has never showcased since. This was before the death and rebirth of Chouji and Neji in the Rescue Sasuke arc. And certainly before most of the shit in part II.

Gaara as a kage? He's 15 and spent half of his life having his village try to kill him. What changed?

Gaara gets brought back to life as well? WTF?

Who the fuck is Sai and Yamato? Why do we have to introduce new main characters when we have perfectly good side characters waiting to be used?

So Pain can solo all of Konoha, and Jiraiya, but Naruto can solo Pain? Da hell is this shit?

And recently Sasuke was under the impression that he could honestly take out five kages at once.

Not to mention this shit about Itachi being a good guy all along and the manga revolving around fucking Uchihas.

"Hey, kid, murder your entire family, will ya, or else we'll have to fight a war. Heh, heh, I can't believe he's gonna do it. Little fucker is demented."
--overheard outside hokage's office circa a decade ago

[Toomin]

Careful, my brothers! They neg rep in that thread!
You got negged??

Part 1 hit it's peak in the chuunin exam prelims. This was before Naruto was able to beat Neji by utilizing some ground digging jutsu that he has never showcased since. This was before the death and rebirth of Chouji and Neji in the Rescue Sasuke arc. And certainly before most of the shit in part II.

Gaara as a kage? He's 15 and spent half of his life having his village try to kill him. What changed?

Gaara gets brought back to life as well? WTF?

Who the fuck is Sai and Yamato? Why do we have to introduce new main characters when we have perfectly good side characters waiting to be used?

So Pain can solo all of Konoha, and Jiraiya, but Naruto can solo Pain? Da hell is this shit?

And recently Sasuke was under the impression that he could honestly take out five kages at once.

Not to mention this shit about Itachi being a good guy all along and the manga revolving around fucking Uchihas.

"Hey, kid, murder your entire family, will ya, or else we'll have to fight a war. Heh, heh, I can't believe he's gonna do it. Little fucker is demented."
--overheard outside hokage's office circa a decade ago
:facepalm The Itachi nonsense was awful. And I think Naruto was halfway good during the Wave arc, and that arc only. The whole idea of the Chuunin Exams is just an excuse to have one-on-one battles with all the twerps and their "rivals." Lame.

So Shippuden (sp?) isn't living up to part 1? That's rather disappointing to hear.
Uh. Yeah. You could say it's doing than Part 1 ever did.

I read the manga. Doesn't mean I'm liking it. This week's chapter was better than most.
Except for the coolest Akatsuki character getting his head chopped off.

[MidnightToker426]

Careful, my brothers! They neg rep in that thread!

haha as in every neg hardened soldier that has come out of the HoU pairing wars





Except for the coolest Akatsuki character getting his head chopped off.

:arg

don't remind me

[Okeaninai]

:sweatdrop well, even though skipped over most of it - that's an awesome dose of spoilers. my fault for asking, though.:doh

[juturne]

You are SO far behind. In fact I think you're the only person I've run into in the forums who I've seen always complaining that we say too much. Where ARE you at in the series, just for future reference?

[martryn]

You got negged??

Meh, what's new? People look for any excuse to neg me. Then again, a lot of people look for any excuse to rep me. Guess which side is winning? I think my current rank speaks for itself.

The whole idea of the Chuunin Exams is just an excuse to have one-on-one battles with all the twerps and their "rivals." Lame.


The exams themselves didn't make sense, true, and it seems a terribly inefficient way to advance in rank, but you have to admit, though, that the cast of characters that arc introduced us to was worth whatever excuse it took to bring them together.

Except for the coolest Akatsuki character getting his head chopped off.

As I mentioned, that was the Akatsuki member that Kishimoto forgot about, so he had to find an excuse to kill him off.

[Okeaninai]

You get that much neg rep, martryn? You seam pretty chill though. Gotta love the kiddies, I guess.

juturne, i've seen up to about episode ... 16? of Shippuden. The cave where Gaara is having whats-his-name being sucked out of him was just discovered - that's the last thing I remember. So yes, I know, very far behind.

[Toomin]

Meh, what's new? People look for any excuse to neg me. Then again, a lot of people look for any excuse to rep me. Guess which side is winning? I think my current rank speaks for itself.



The exams themselves didn't make sense, true, and it seems a terribly inefficient way to advance in rank, but you have to admit, though, that the cast of characters that arc introduced us to was worth whatever excuse it took to bring them together.



As I mentioned, that was the Akatsuki member that Kishimoto forgot about, so he had to find an excuse to kill him off.
But your post wasn't even anything that neg-worthy? I mean, I've seen some inflammatory stuff from you before, but that was nothing..

OK, well, the characters introduced, yes. And Genma staring down Baki is one of the highlights of that arc, even if they never fight (giving us all Genma blue-balls).

Ah, right.

You get that much neg rep, martryn? You seam pretty chill though. Gotta love the kiddies, I guess.

juturne, i've seen up to about episode ... 16? of Shippuden. The cave where Gaara is having whats-his-name being sucked out of him was just discovered - that's the last thing I remember. So yes, I know, very far behind.
Damn, incredibly far behind. Have you been spoiled on much besides the most recent chapters?

[martryn]

You get that much neg rep, martryn? You seam pretty chill though. Gotta love the kiddies, I guess.

I'm a conservative Christian that posts in the Cafe. I'm also in an old breed of posters in the Battledome. Plus I don't conform to the Blender, so the big name Blenderites often neg rep me.

[Okeaninai]

Sounds rough, martryn. I stay clear of the Cafe - never been in there. So what's this 'Blender' thing all about?

Hm, The only other thing I came across, Toomin, is that Asuma dies, although I don't know how.

[martryn]

So what's this 'Blender' thing all about?

The Blender thing deals with my disapproval of the Blenderites repping habits and what they're able to get away with. Rep circles are illegal. They have always been. This last time we had access to all of our reps, several members calculated who has repped them the most, and how many times said person repped them. My highest was jkingler who has repped me 36 times in almost 5 years. That's about once every two months.

In the Blender, however, it's not uncommon to have someone who has been here for under two years to have another member rep them 80+ times. That's once every couple of days. And considering you have to wait 24 hours and 10-20 reps before you can rep that person again, you can see how freely the Blenderites are abusing their section's giant rep circle.

It'd be the equivalent of this thread being as active as it has been in the last 24 hours, and everyday when we post we rep everyone else in here for any reason we can think of. And since we're the ones repping each other, and we're the ones receiving the rep, all of our reps and rep altering powers will go up together. After a few months, we'd all have huge reps. And that's what's taking place in the Blender.

The mods are aware this is happening. Many of the mods were/are Blenderites. And many of the Blenderites are repped banned even now. But it doesn't stop them. They get away with it because the mods consider Blender rep to be a joke. But it's not a joke. If it were a joke we wouldn't have rep rules. And so we see bias for the Blender.

My proposals to the mods are ignored. I believe if the changes I suggest were implemented, no one would have cause to bitch about rep. I simply ask that you are prevented from repping anyone who has repped you within the last 24 hours and/or was one of the last 10-20 people who have repped you. No rep backs or revenge reps. No rep circles. Also, a three strike law for the rep rules. If you are rep banned once, make it for a week. A second time, maybe two weeks. If it happens a third time, then you've been abusing rep for some time, and should be slashed. Each subsequent abuse of rep should get your rep slashed. We can start cutting down these giant rep totals from members that don't really deserve it.

[juturne]

I don't know why people make such a big fuss about reps. It's not like they matter much. You don't get kicked out of the forums because of it.

Hm, The only other thing I came across, Toomin, is that Asuma dies, although I don't know how.

Well if you never read any farther, you HAVE to read that arc. Ok, I AM just a bit biased when it comes to anything related to Team 10 but I do think it was probably the last really great moment in the manga.

[Okeaninai]

:blink Wow, I did not know such a thing about reps existed! I seam to remember a period of time a few years ago when it was all the rage, so to speak, but not quite to such an extent. I suppose i was lucky enough to stay away from all of that somehow.

I'm an 'anime only' person, however. The only part of the manga I read was the kakashi back story thing (which I can't remember the proper name for). I believe it was presented right before the time skip. I remember there was a big thing about it, as people were hoping that it would be in the anime right before it started up again, for example.

yes, I know I need to get a move on and catch up already.

[martryn]

Meh, I really like the rep system and I think it's fun to use. I don't mind if people have higher rep than I do. I just think, if we have rules revolving around rep including the abuse of it, and there are consequences to and punishments for abusing rep, that they should effect everyone equally. And I certainly hate it when an entire group of forum members brag about their massive reps all the time even though they only have such massive rep through using a rep circle. The Blender is honestly just like one giant Agony/Rep Game thread.

[Okeaninai]

I just think, if we have rules revolving around rep including the abuse of it, and there are consequences to and punishments for abusing rep, that they should effect everyone equally.

Very true. I think anyone with some common sense can agree to that.

[Toomin]

I'm a conservative Christian that posts in the Cafe. I'm also in an old breed of posters in the Battledome. Plus I don't conform to the Blender, so the big name Blenderites often neg rep me.
Oh, I didn't know that...I'm Christian, too, although it would seem I'm a bit more liberal than you..:P
And that ain't cool, those guys still spread the hate on you? Lame...can't you complain about neg abuse if it wasn't for something legitimate?

Sounds rough, martryn. I stay clear of the Cafe - never been in there. So what's this 'Blender' thing all about?

Hm, The only other thing I came across, Toomin, is that Asuma dies, although I don't know how.
Asuma dies in a mostly lame fashion, but I usually comfort myself in knowing that if he was fighting any other guy, he would've won ages ago.

The Blender thing deals with my disapproval of the Blenderites repping habits and what they're able to get away with. Rep circles are illegal. They have always been. This last time we had access to all of our reps, several members calculated who has repped them the most, and how many times said person repped them. My highest was jkingler who has repped me 36 times in almost 5 years. That's about once every two months.

In the Blender, however, it's not uncommon to have someone who has been here for under two years to have another member rep them 80+ times. That's once every couple of days. And considering you have to wait 24 hours and 10-20 reps before you can rep that person again, you can see how freely the Blenderites are abusing their section's giant rep circle.

It'd be the equivalent of this thread being as active as it has been in the last 24 hours, and everyday when we post we rep everyone else in here for any reason we can think of. And since we're the ones repping each other, and we're the ones receiving the rep, all of our reps and rep altering powers will go up together. After a few months, we'd all have huge reps. And that's what's taking place in the Blender.

The mods are aware this is happening. Many of the mods were/are Blenderites. And many of the Blenderites are repped banned even now. But it doesn't stop them. They get away with it because the mods consider Blender rep to be a joke. But it's not a joke. If it were a joke we wouldn't have rep rules. And so we see bias for the Blender.

My proposals to the mods are ignored. I believe if the changes I suggest were implemented, no one would have cause to bitch about rep. I simply ask that you are prevented from repping anyone who has repped you within the last 24 hours and/or was one of the last 10-20 people who have repped you. No rep backs or revenge reps. No rep circles. Also, a three strike law for the rep rules. If you are rep banned once, make it for a week. A second time, maybe two weeks. If it happens a third time, then you've been abusing rep for some time, and should be slashed. Each subsequent abuse of rep should get your rep slashed. We can start cutting down these giant rep totals from members that don't really deserve it.
Agreed. And there should be harsher penalties on weaboos or jerks who neg rep for no good reason or because someone dislikes their character.

Meh, I really like the rep system and I think it's fun to use. I don't mind if people have higher rep than I do. I just think, if we have rules revolving around rep including the abuse of it, and there are consequences to and punishments for abusing rep, that they should effect everyone equally. And I certainly hate it when an entire group of forum members brag about their massive reps all the time even though they only have such massive rep through using a rep circle. The Blender is honestly just like one giant Agony/Rep Game thread.
Before I knew about the Blender nonsense and all the shit they pull, I used to think guys with large rep counts (and post counts) were "cool" or whatever, cuz it meant they had been around for a while. Most of them had been. And then I started seeing people with five digit post counts within a year and a half and massive rep powers.

[Okeaninai]

Asuma dies in a mostly lame fashion, but I usually comfort myself in knowing that if he was fighting any other guy, he would've won ages ago.

:wha Really? He's like a classic bad-ass of sorts, that's a bummer to know.

[martryn]

And that ain't cool, those guys still spread the hate on you? Lame...can't you complain about neg abuse if it wasn't for something legitimate?

No because that would make me a bitch. I'm not a bitch!

[Okeaninai]

Pride is a troublesome thing :smoke

[MidnightToker426]

mehh

can any of you direct me to some fanart?

I'm making a Genma set :gar

[Toomin]

No because that would make me a bitch. I'm not a bitch!
Lol, true.

mehh

can any of you direct me to some fanart?

I'm making a Genma set :gar
I believes the OP was a photobucket link.

[martryn]

I believes the OP was a photobucket link.

I don't think that's the case anymore.

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[Toomin]

Did it expire?

[martryn]

*shrug* I remember what you're talking about, but I'm not sure what happened. That was some time ago.

[Toomin]

Ah. Word.

So, how was everyone's Turkey Day break? I got in a car accident on the last day before I came back. It sucked.

[Okeaninai]

It's been a James Bond and Harry Potter movie marathon weekend for me.

Car accident? yikes. What a way to perk up the holiday weekend? Your ok, I presume?

[Toomin]

Yeah, I'm fine, physically. Everyone else involved is, too. Car is totally fucked up though. Right side is bent in, front right is smashed, front left is dented, back window is gone, windshield's cracked, front tires are blown.

James Bond and Harry Potter are both good. What movies did you watch?

I saw Fantastic Mr. Fox yesterday. It was winful.

[Okeaninai]

OH did that movie come out? It was hard to tell if that's the sort of movie worth watching in a theater. Seamed somewhat unique though, for some reason.

Watched half of Goldfinger (sad, that's one of my favorites), Goldeneye (one of my favorites), and Live and Let Die. In a little bit I'll be watching Octopussy, which I don't think i've ever seen the entire thing.

Watched the first two Potter movies thus far, going for #3 (Prisoner of Azkaban) later today too.

Sounds like that was quite a crash to come out of A-OK. Good though.

[martryn]

I dropped $100 on Thanksgiving dinner at a Japanese place. Spent most of the weekend watching football. Arkansas vs. LSU. Such a disappointing finish.

[Toomin]

OH did that movie come out? It was hard to tell if that's the sort of movie worth watching in a theater. Seamed somewhat unique though, for some reason.

Watched half of Goldfinger (sad, that's one of my favorites), Goldeneye (one of my favorites), and Live and Let Die. In a little bit I'll be watching Octopussy, which I don't think i've ever seen the entire thing.

Watched the first two Potter movies thus far, going for #3 (Prisoner of Azkaban) later today too.

Sounds like that was quite a crash to come out of A-OK. Good though.
Yeah, it was really really good. I'd definitely recommend it. First Wes Anderson movie that I think everyone could like...

Goldfinger is good. Haven't seen the other two. I really like the Casino Royale reboot. Its sequel was horrible though.

Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorite. Half-Blood Prince is a close second.

Yes. Not good. Thank God no one got hurt...

@Marty: Lol, why a Japanese place for Turkey day?

[martryn]

Harry Potter movies have been getting worse as time goes on. The best ones were the original ones, which is about opposite the bell curve the books did.

@Marty: Lol, why a Japanese place for Turkey day?

They don't celebrate it in England. Mary took me out anyways, and said we could stuff ourselves just the same, so we did.

[Toomin]

Oh that's right, I forgot you're in the UK....that's cool then. Where's she been, btw? Haven't seen her online in ages..

I like the later Harry Potter movies (barring Goblet of Fire)...as movies. As adaptations of the books, I do believe they consistently achieve the "spirit" but work poorly otherwise.

[Okeaninai]

I dropped $100 on Thanksgiving dinner....//They don't celebrate it in England

:blink That's a bit to drop for a holiday that doesn't exist in your county

Half-Blood Prince is a close second.

I have not seen this. Goblet of Fire was the last one I saw. I'm behind on these movies :amuse

Casino Royale was on the boring side for me actually. I don't particularly like Craig as Bond. I know this bond incarnation is supposed to be rough and whatever as it's the start of the 007 legacy and his bond is just starting out, so he doesn't have the class and such but.... that aside, i still can't get around Craig as bond. Something about him just doesn't fit right.

Never saw the other Royale movie, but as that was more of a spoof anyway and not considered a 'real' Bond movie....

[Toomin]

Marty ain't from teh UK originally--but Mary is.

[martryn]

Where's she been, btw? Haven't seen her online in ages..

Her computer's missing a plug thing that prevents it from charging or some shit. She bought a new one today, so she might be back online real soon. It's hard for her to post when I'm around, as she comes home from work and then wants to spend time with me, not random people on the internet. I only post as much as I do because she's at work all day.

Casino Royale was on the boring side for me actually. I don't particularly like Craig as Bond. I know this bond incarnation is supposed to be rough and whatever as it's the start of the 007 legacy and his bond is just starting out, so he doesn't have the class and such but.... that aside, i still can't get around Craig as bond. Something about him just doesn't fit right.

Nonsense! Casino Royale is easily the best Bond movie. It is much closer to the original Bond works than any of the drivel that came out in the 60's and 70's. I mean, I love Goldfinger and Doctor No as much as the next guy, but the movies themselves are incredibly cheesy and incredibly dated. Casino Royale is like the Next Generation to the earlier Bonds' Original Series. Kirk is the iconic captain of the Enterprise, but Picard and the NCC 1701-D will always be what I think of when I think of Star Trek.

And the sequel wasn't that bad. Sure, the plot fucking sucked, but have you seen the plot on a lot of these James Bond movies? I liked that they wrapped up the stuff that happened in Casino Royale.

[Okeaninai]

Calling the "dated" factor is lame, can't really do anything about that.

I don't read the novels so I look at them from a movie stand-point.

I love the campy cheesyness, even the ridiculousness of some of them - it's part of the appeal and why they are enjoyable. I love violence and crazy action, but at the same time..... All of them have a touch of ridiculousness in them - but didn't find much of that in Casino Royale.

It's almost as if Casino Royale takes its self too seriously. And if that's the future of Bond movies...that's just sad. I rather liked what GoldenEye did - changing up the aproach to the Bond movies and all that blah blah.

I had heard that Quantum of-whatever was still rather good. At least they wrapped up everything well (taking yoru word for it as i have not seen it).

Craig himself as Bond.... not feeling it, even with the handycapp. Maybe Quantum will change that but as of now... nah.

[Toomin]

Her computer's missing a plug thing that prevents it from charging or some shit. She bought a new one today, so she might be back online real soon. It's hard for her to post when I'm around, as she comes home from work and then wants to spend time with me, not random people on the internet. I only post as much as I do because she's at work all day.
Ah, I see.

Nonsense! Casino Royale is easily the best Bond movie. It is much closer to the original Bond works than any of the drivel that came out in the 60's and 70's. I mean, I love Goldfinger and Doctor No as much as the next guy, but the movies themselves are incredibly cheesy and incredibly dated. Casino Royale is like the Next Generation to the earlier Bonds' Original Series. Kirk is the iconic captain of the Enterprise, but Picard and the NCC 1701-D will always be what I think of when I think of Star Trek.

And the sequel wasn't that bad. Sure, the plot fucking sucked, but have you seen the plot on a lot of these James Bond movies? I liked that they wrapped up the stuff that happened in Casino Royale.
My take on Quantum. (http://toomintheellimist.blogspot.com/2009/04/important-thing-to-understand-about.html)

Calling the "dated" factor is lame, can't really do anything about that.

I don't read the novels so I look at them from a movie stand-point.

I love the campy cheesyness, even the ridiculousness of some of them - it's part of the appeal and why they are enjoyable. I love violence and crazy action, but at the same time..... All of them have a touch of ridiculousness in them - but didn't find much of that in Casino Royale.

It's almost as if Casino Royale takes its self too seriously. And if that's the future of Bond movies...that's just sad. I rather liked what GoldenEye did - changing up the aproach to the Bond movies and all that blah blah.

I had heard that Quantum of-whatever was still rather good. At least they wrapped up everything well (taking yoru word for it as i have not seen it).

Craig himself as Bond.... not feeling it, even with the handycapp. Maybe Quantum will change that but as of now... nah.
Ah, see, I'll take the cheese and camp of the early Bonds at face value, but if I want the Bond series to get a reboot, I want a change from the old stuff, because, frankly, it wouldn't work today. Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer are the current action hero trend--Bond kinda has to fit in, while still being Bond.

[Okeaninai]

Ah, see, I'll take the cheese and camp of the early Bonds at face value, but if I want the Bond series to get a reboot, I want a change from the old stuff, because, frankly, it wouldn't work today. Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer are the current action hero trend--Bond kinda has to fit in, while still being Bond.

Yea, I see where your going with that, they do have to fit in (are the "action heros" of right now even true action heros? they seam so drab, especially compared to the classic - real - action hero a-la 90's style), but I don't want that at the complete expense of the ridiculous-ness factor that's so awesome about Bond, so, for me I don't think too much needs to change - I thought the Brosnan (sp?) movies did a good job of that - mixing the old with the new; I felt it was really lacking with Royale (although there was this one stunt that was pretty Bond-ridiculous that fit). Additionally, Craig just doesn't quite have that spirit of Bond, even as a rookie double-O(story-wise).

I think there's a move slated for 2011 with him on it so, he's around for a while I guess.

Curious, what are some of your favorites? What do you think of Craig's Bond?

[Toomin]

Well, I disagree, I'd say Craig does have the spirit of, if not the classic Bond, at least a Bond who will slowly become the man we know and love (that is, a classy, calm, misogynistic, cold-blooded killer). He has the first and second ones down pat, and the last two are coming along nicely, the final one much faster than the second to last. I really do like Craig as Bond--I think he provides a much needed physicality and brutality to the role. Connery will always be the classiest and wittiest Bond, but I think Craig is Connery for the new era.

Jason Bourne is an action hero in the sense that he has fight scenes and is "cool" because he do all those martial arts moves and assassin butt-kicking, but what makes him poignant is that he has no idea who he is when the series begins, and he finds out on the way.

Jack Bauer is just a product of wish fulfillment, a guy who will save country time and again from terrorists. He's more of a traditional action hero than Bourne (who isn't exactly original himself, though his character more rare).

You probably meant the 80's when you said 90's action heroes, as I can think of none that would really fit the bill. The 80's heroes I assume you're talking about are guys like Ahnuld, Stallone, Bruce Willis, Van Damme, Chuck Norris himself and Mel Gibson. I think it's safe to say that there will always be a market for action films like the ones they starred in, but I think it's also safe to say that the majority of their action movies sucked in terms of filmmaking and even actual entertainment beyond numbing the mind, a trait that people tend to associate with "typical Hollywood flicks." Thus, people tend to be more receptive to a movie with a hero that seems different than the norm and a plot that seems more introspective and thought-out.

[Okeaninai]

You probably meant the 80's when you said 90's action heroes, as I can think of none that would really fit the bill. The 80's heroes I assume you're talking about are guys like Ahnuld, Stallone, Bruce Willis, Van Damme, Chuck Norris himself and Mel Gibson

Sans Mel Gibson (what big action style movie did he do?) and Chuck Norris (never watched any of his movies except Sidekicks and that's a kids movie so...), yea that's what I meant.

True, they arn't the prize of movie making by any sense of the word; classic action movies aren't the best written movies around, but it's not really about that - I've never much cared about artistc filmaking or any of that shit. I like a big dose of 'suspension of belief'.

I love the lame one-liners, crazy and borderline un-realistic stunts, ect... i dont know how to put it in words, but there's something really endearing about old style action movies that has all but dissapeared in movies in this genre today. doesn't have to be all crafy-smart like the Bourne movies to be entertaining. If it's too smart it kinda takes away from just enjoying crazy action for what it is - crazy action. At the same time of course, it can't be too simple either, unless it makes up for it in other areas....

I find nothing cool about Jack Bauer, in fact, he's rather boring to me. I'm rather indifferent to Jason Bourne. I guess he does have the one-up for not knowing who he was blah blah blah... There were some nice sequences in those movies, however.

I do hope Craig can become that bond - I know these first movies he's not supposed to be there yet - but yea I'm just not seeing the classy or calm - unless the calm came around in his second installment...?

I think he provides a much needed physicality and brutality to the role. Connery will always be the classiest and wittiest Bond, but I think Craig is Connery for the new era.

Hm - I don't know I think Brosnan did this well - he was a little more wild and more physical than the other bonds - (don't remember how physical Dalton was - it's been quite a while since i've seen the two installments he did) - but I think this aspect - some of that can also be attributed to the change in move making in that genre - so can't quite pin it all on the actors incarnations themselves. He was, however, for a Bond, rough around the edges in comparison wasn't he? He was also a bit more dryly sarcastic.

Plus, if nothing else, Craig doesn't at all, in anyway, fit the look and aura of Bond. I just can't see someone looking like Craig getting ladies to submit like they do to.... him.

hm... not a fan of the "blank" is the "blank for the new era" type comments. It seams too unfair to attribute to this.

[martryn]

I see Daniel Craig and I think Bond. I can't help it now. When it was reported Craig was going to be playing James Bond and jump starting the series I was so fucking psyched because I knew he could pull it off. If you need convincing that Daniel Craig can play a character who is both cool and calm, but also a little tongue-in-cheek the way Bond is, go and watch Layer Cake.

I just wish the new Bond franchise would have following the path of the novels. I suppose they didn't do that because Live and Let Die was already a film. Still, disappointing for the re-imagining of the series to go off track so quickly.

[Toomin]

Sans Mel Gibson (what big action style movie did he do?) and Chuck Norris (never watched any of his movies except Sidekicks and that's a kids movie so...), yea that's what I meant.
Um, Mel Gibson was in the Lethal Weapon movies, one of the biggest action series of all time.....

True, they arn't the prize of movie making by any sense of the word; classic action movies aren't the best written movies around, but it's not really about that - I've never much cared about artistc filmaking or any of that shit. I like a big dose of 'suspension of belief'.

I love the lame one-liners, crazy and borderline un-realistic stunts, ect... i dont know how to put it in words, but there's something really endearing about old style action movies that has all but dissapeared in movies in this genre today. doesn't have to be all crafy-smart like the Bourne movies to be entertaining. If it's too smart it kinda takes away from just enjoying crazy action for what it is - crazy action. At the same time of course, it can't be too simple either, unless it makes up for it in other areas....
Sure, if it's an action movie, there should be some suspension of belief, because everything that's going to happen is going to be over-the-top and ridiculous (think Arnold mowing down an entire base of baddies without ever reloading in "Commando"). But, a great action movie is one that can keep the action movie requirements while having good performances and/or a well thought-out plot and/or some measure of cinematic style. "Hard Boiled" is a classic example. There is nothing realistic about the shootouts in the movie--bullets are expended like there'll never be a shortage, and no one ever has to reload until the script requires it--but the way the shootouts were filmed was revolutionary. No one had ever seen gun fights that were balletic and dance-like, where people leapt sideways through the air, both pistols blazing. There have been few action sequences even since "Hard Boiled" that can equal the restaurant shootout for sheer camera-work and choreography.

I find nothing cool about Jack Bauer, in fact, he's rather boring to me. I'm rather indifferent to Jason Bourne. I guess he does have the one-up for not knowing who he was blah blah blah... There were some nice sequences in those movies, however.
I care not for Jack Bauer either. Kiefer Sutherland, unfortunately, did not inherit his father's acting ability.

I do hope Craig can become that bond - I know these first movies he's not supposed to be there yet - but yea I'm just not seeing the classy or calm - unless the calm came around in his second installment...?

Hm - I don't know I think Brosnan did this well - he was a little more wild and more physical than the other bonds - (don't remember how physical Dalton was - it's been quite a while since i've seen the two installments he did) - but I think this aspect - some of that can also be attributed to the change in move making in that genre - so can't quite pin it all on the actors incarnations themselves. He was, however, for a Bond, rough around the edges in comparison wasn't he? He was also a bit more dryly sarcastic.

Plus, if nothing else, Craig doesn't at all, in anyway, fit the look and aura of Bond. I just can't see someone looking like Craig getting ladies to submit like they do to.... him.
Calm and collected? Watch that whole poker game sequence again. By the end of Casino Royale and throughout all of Quantum he isn't, but that's because he's lost his love and is filled with rage.

I liked Pierce Brosnan as Bond. He brought Connery's charisma back, but added a world-weariness to the role. And you're right, a change in movie-making certainly affected the amount of violence and sex the Bond movies were allowed to show--can this not apply to "Casino Royale" as well?

You can't compare Craig's portrayal of Bond in "Casino Royale" to the "classic" character of Bond because he's simply not that character yet. Whether or not he will end up as that character remains to be seen (screenplays must be written, Craig must come through, etc), but cosmetic differences certainly should not be a factor either. Also, not being a woman, I can't say whether or not the mistress of a boorish bad guy could be seduced by Daniel Craig, but I can say he had no trouble convincing me in the movie.

hm... not a fan of the "blank" is the "blank for the new era" type comments. It seams too unfair to attribute to this.
I'm not sure how this is unfair...

I see Daniel Craig and I think Bond. I can't help it now. When it was reported Craig was going to be playing James Bond and jump starting the series I was so fucking psyched because I knew he could pull it off. If you need convincing that Daniel Craig can play a character who is both cool and calm, but also a little tongue-in-cheek the way Bond is, go and watch Layer Cake.

I just wish the new Bond franchise would have following the path of the novels. I suppose they didn't do that because Live and Let Die was already a film. Still, disappointing for the re-imagining of the series to go off track so quickly.
Agreed about Layer Cake. About the franchise not following the novels, I'm both OK and not quite OK with it. I don't mind not having gadgets and all, because frankly, they just got sillier and sillier. But, I think they run the risk of making the series a Bond series in name only. Hopefully they move back towards updating the stories, now that the Casino Royale/Quantum revenge arc is over.

[Okeaninai]

I see Daniel Craig and I think Bond. I can't help it now. When it was reported Craig was going to be playing James Bond and jump starting the series I was so fucking psyched because I knew he could pull it off. If you need convincing that Daniel Craig can play a character who is both cool and calm, but also a little tongue-in-cheek the way Bond is, go and watch Layer Cake.

I just wish the new Bond franchise would have following the path of the novels. I suppose they didn't do that because Live and Let Die was already a film. Still, disappointing for the re-imagining of the series to go off track so quickly.

So how much do they actually stray? Are there more novels than movies? I don't really know anything about the novels.

So Live and Let Die would had been a good point to re-imagine the series?

hm, i might try your suggestion. look wise he doesn't pull it off for me.

[Toomin]

Oh, all of the movies strayed from the novels, at least in terms of plot details and characters.

[martryn]

So how much do they actually stray? Are there more novels than movies? I don't really know anything about the novels.

So Live and Let Die would had been a good point to re-imagine the series?


I haven't seen that many Bond movies. Or, rather, I've seen them all, but I haven't watched any old Bond movies in probably around ten years.

All of the Bond books were made into films except for Casino Royale, which is weird, as Live and Let Die is really a direct sequel to Royale, and it's movie has many of the same characters, but doesn't follow the plot of the book at all.

The next book in the series, Moonraker, uses some of the same characters, but the plot is all fucked up. I don't think they went into space in the book. However, to set it in present times they'd really have to do some magic with the script. It's all about Nazis.

[Okeaninai]

Calm and collected? Watch that whole poker game sequence again. By the end of Casino Royale and throughout all of Quantum he isn't, but that's because he's lost his love and is filled with rage.

You can't compare Craig's portrayal of Bond in "Casino Royale" to the "classic" character of Bond because he's simply not that character yet. Whether or not he will end up as that character remains to be seen (screenplays must be written, Craig must come through, etc), but cosmetic differences certainly should not be a factor either. Also, not being a woman, I can't say whether or not the mistress of a boorish bad guy could be seduced by Daniel Craig, but I can say he had no trouble convincing me in the movie.

I don't mind not having gadgets and all, because frankly, they just got sillier and sillier. But, I think they run the risk of making the series a Bond series in name only.

Oh I wasn't comparing the two's Bond portrayal against each other - I know at this point in time Craig's Bond isn't supposed to be fully "Bond" yet. I was just pointing out that Brosnan did all the things you were saying Craig brought about in CRoyale, but, in my opinion, better. But then, he did have the advantage of not being a rookie double-O and already suited in his ways. But, I wasn't playing that aspect against Craig, as that wouldn't make any sense.

It looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree on Craig. Even as a not-yet-fully-Bond, Bond, he's just not... captivating in the role as most of the others were. There's something that radiates from the others that doesn't really from Craig to me. Whether it's the way he carries himself, expressions, the way he talks, whatever, its just... not there. He was not convincing in the getting-the-ladies dept. either, new bond or not.

I don't place a whole lot on looks; going on pure looks alone, it's not like the other bonds were overly amazingly sexy or what-have you as, well they weren't (Brosnan fairs a little better than the rest, however) but, they all did have a nice attractiveness (which ends up coming out more in their actions and such than anything else), which is something Craig is missing.

Obviously no one is going to be calm and collected when they are enraged - there had to be at least a couple other moments with other bonds that showed them at least on that edge.... that would be silly to count that against anyone.

I rather liked some of the more "silly" gadgets. But, I do rather like the touch of ridiculousness (Jaws, Oddjob anyone?) so.... But, what is it that you think will make them run the risk of having Bond movies in name only?

Have you also read some of the novels like martryn?

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oh damn - completely forgot about Lethal Weapon - my bad. For whatever reason I've never seen any of them outside of clips here and there. I think i've seen good chunks of the last one with Jet Li as the villain....

But, a great action movie is one that can keep the action movie requirements while having good performances and/or a well thought-out plot and/or some measure of cinematic style.

So what movies fit these requirements for you, aside from Hard Boiled and what it had within it?

[Okeaninai]

I haven't seen that many Bond movies. Or, rather, I've seen them all, but I haven't watched any old Bond movies in probably around ten years.

All of the Bond books were made into films except for Casino Royale, which is weird, as Live and Let Die is really a direct sequel to Royale, and it's movie has many of the same characters, but doesn't follow the plot of the book at all.

The next book in the series, Moonraker, uses some of the same characters, but the plot is all fucked up. I don't think they went into space in the book. However, to set it in present times they'd really have to do some magic with the script. It's all about Nazis.

So if Live and Let Die is/was supposed to be a sequel for Casino Royale, is QoS a type of re-telling of Live and Let Die?

What about the spoof Casino Royale that was done in the 60's? was that completely random then with nothing from the book at all?

The movies weren't made in order of the books were they? Moonraker is one of the movies i've never seen. But now I'm confused - Moonraker, Live and Let Die and Casino Royale share a lot of the same characters in the books - but how much of that were translated into the separate movies? And how does QoS fit in to all this?

Being that you read the novels - are you able to actually enjoy the movie and separate them from the novels?

[Toomin]

I rather liked some of the more "silly" gadgets. But, I do rather like the touch of ridiculousness (Jaws, Oddjob anyone?) so.... But, what is it that you think will make them run the risk of having Bond movies in name only?

Have you also read some of the novels like martryn?
No, only synopses. :amuse

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oh damn - completely forgot about Lethal Weapon - my bad. For whatever reason I've never seen any of them outside of clips here and there. I think i've seen good chunks of the last one with Jet Li as the villain....
If you liked Die Hard, you'll like the first Lethal Weapon (the only one I've seen).

So what movies fit these requirements for you, aside from Hard Boiled and what it had within it?
The Bourne movies (personal preference, I suppose), most movies by John Woo, Speed, Terminator 2, Aliens, The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Spider-man 2, Kill Bill Vol1 and 2, Hellboy, Hot Fuzz, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Iron Man, The Professional, The Road Warrior, Minority Report, Ronin, The Incredibles, The Matrix, X2, and probably more? :amuse

[Okeaninai]

Die Hard was bad-ass. I particularly loved the 3rd one for all the wise-cracks and such. I suppose it's less action-ish than the others.

hmm... some of those you listed I don't really see as actual action movies, rather just movies with a good amount of action in them. I guess I just have a unique view of what an action movie is in comparison to the rest of the world.

The Professional....:hmm Jean Reno and Natalie Portman right? The weird thing about that movie is that I honestly don't remember much action in that movie. I do remember it being rather good.... but it's also been years since i've seen it.

The Incredible.... the Disney/Pixar movie?:blink

Raiders of the Lost Ark - that's more of an adventure movie no? I've always counted those movies as more adventure than anything else. An awesome movie, of course.

[martryn]

So if Live and Let Die is/was supposed to be a sequel for Casino Royale, is QoS a type of re-telling of Live and Let Die?

It's a type of retelling, but it's not one. It serves the same purpose in the series as Live or Let Die does/did, but uses a radically different, and altogether worse, plot. In the book, we get our first look at the elaborate traps Bond villains seem fond of using, including death by shark, twice.

What about the spoof Casino Royale that was done in the 60's? was that completely random then with nothing from the book at all?

I have no idea. I haven't seen the spoof.

But now I'm confused - Moonraker, Live and Let Die and Casino Royale share a lot of the same characters in the books - but how much of that were translated into the separate movies? And how does QoS fit in to all this?

Quantum of Solace is a completely new script.

From what I can tell the Bond movies use a radically exaggerated plot, perhaps because they weren't filmed in order of the books. The characters seem to translate over well, and retain their personality, quirks, and abilities, but the plots only resemble each other in the vaguest fashion. Sorta like the original Naruto one-shot manga resembling the Naruto manga that we know today.

Being that you read the novels - are you able to actually enjoy the movie and separate them from the novels?

I saw the movies first and loved them for their campiness. After reading the books, however, I have to say that it would be hard to go back and see the movies. If you've already seen most of the Bond films, you should read the books.

[Okeaninai]

Such interesting info, martryn.

The characters seem to translate over well, and retain their personality, quirks, and abilities, but the plots only resemble each other in the vaguest fashion. Sorta like the original Naruto one-shot manga resembling the Naruto manga that we know today.

hmm. The movies seam more character driven than anything, particularly the older one's, so that's not that much of a negative to me. But it would be interesting to know the original plots and how they play out.

What's this one-shot manga you mentioned? I'm not a manga reader so, you'll have to enlighten me on this tid-bit. (if you don't mind).

we get our first look at the elaborate traps Bond villains seem fond of using, including death by shark, twice.

I'd be amusing to see how many times throughout the movies this is come up. it seams like quite a few movies have this. Twice in one book? wow.

I saw the movies first and loved them for their campiness. After reading the books, however, I have to say that it would be hard to go back and see the movies. If you've already seen most of the Bond films, you should read the books.

oh bummer, seams hard to not be able to not go back and enjoy the exaggerated world of James Bond movies! And with the added fun of old-style movie making, which can be unintentionally amusing when taken out of context. :amuse Hm. One of these days, if I can find them....

[martryn]

What's this one-shot manga you mentioned? I'm not a manga reader so, you'll have to enlighten me on this tid-bit. (if you don't mind).

Before Naruto was the best selling manga we know today, Kishimoto created the character and another manga and submitted it to a magazine somewhere once or something. That character Naruto looked liked our character Naruto, but instead of being a ninja, he was an actual demon or something, and could change quite readily into his demon fox form. I only read it once, and it sucked, but I remember that much, at least.

Twice in one book? wow.

Once was over an actual tank and caused Leiter to lose an arm and leg, the other was a plot to drag Bond and the Bond girl for the novel through a coral reef that was shark invested in the hopes that he'd be eaten.

[Okeaninai]

Can that still be found, somewhere? That one-shot? Seams like would be a nice prize for anyone that could find it.

through a coral reef - how fun, ha.

[martryn]

Can that still be found, somewhere? That one-shot? Seams like would be a nice prize for anyone that could find it.

I read it online, I'm pretty sure. Probably can find it on One Manga. Might be called Naruto chapter 0.

[Okeaninai]

hm. interesting.

[Toomin]

Found the new version of Scarlet Spiral here. (http://asylums.insanejournal.com/fallen_leaves/) For those of you who don't know, this is an online writing rpg-->premise. (http://asylums.insanejournal.com/fallen_leaves/profile) Good fanfiction writers are players on this site.

[Toomin]

I think we're gonna have to get all new members to rate this FC 5 stars---4 stars for this long is not acceptable...

[martryn]

Careful, FC! Apparently there is a lot of shit going down in the FC section where we might need stringent rules to keep us in line. And also there might be moles watching this thread waiting to report anything bad we say about other members or fandoms or some shit.

[Okeaninai]

:blink people really that bored huh?

keep what in line, exactly?

[Toomin]

What the fuck? I mean, if any FC's need watching, it's the Big 3 pairing FC's....but honestly, nothing that serious goes down in the FC section...why don't the mods watch the Blender or The Cafe more seriously or something?

[martryn]

keep what in line, exactly?

Our blatant rule-breaking, apparently.

What the fuck? I mean, if any FC's need watching, it's the Big 3 pairing FC's....but honestly, nothing that serious goes down in the FC section...why don't the mods watch the Blender or The Cafe more seriously or something?

That's one of the points I made in my thread. Since I think both FC mods have repped me for my posts in that discussion, I think they sorta agree with me. Apparently that thread is just for show. Something members can use to bitch about things without actually bothering the mods with a shit ton of "reported" posts.

Sorta on the subject, I've been repped 7 times while I think I've only posted in the thread three or four. I win?

[juturne]

Yeah, sounds like a serious case of boredom. And what happens if we bad-mouth the mods? :) Or will I get shot down for this off-topic post? *shaking in my boots*

BTW- Just voted 5 stars but don't think it'll make a difference. Hadn't voted yet. Sorry.

[Toomin]

Our blatant rule-breaking, apparently.



That's one of the points I made in my thread. Since I think both FC mods have repped me for my posts in that discussion, I think they sorta agree with me. Apparently that thread is just for show. Something members can use to bitch about things without actually bothering the mods with a shit ton of "reported" posts.

Sorta on the subject, I've been repped 7 times while I think I've only posted in the thread three or four. I win?
Good, good. At least not everyone's crazy.

[Okeaninai]

The whole thing, the little that I know about it, is almost amusing in a sense. Sadly so, however.

[juturne]

Well, I've warned my friends. I guess it's the "anti FC's" that will get the hardest hit anyway...

[Toomin]

Good. I don't actively post in any of the anti-FC's that I joined years ago...

[Okeaninai]

Well, I've warned my friends. I guess it's the "anti FC's" that will get the hardest hit anyway...

I've never joined one, but those seamed to be so amusing, in concept anyway. That's almost a bummer to hear.

But then again, if there is going to be any "unruly" behavior, it wouldn't be surprising that it'd come from these FC's.

[Aman]

Bump. I wonder if we'll ever see Genma in action again.

[Pesky Bug]

I am so wanting to join. :iria

Bump. I wonder if we'll ever see Genma in action again.Not very likely, I'm afraid. :( If anything it'll be a few panels of him collecting the left-overs from a fight like his last appearance. That doesn't change the fact that he's 2 cool though.

[LightningElemental]

Welcome, Pesky. :D It is a good club to be in.

[Okeaninai]

I am so wanting to join. :iria

Not very likely, I'm afraid. :( If anything it'll be a few panels of him collecting the left-overs from a fight like his last appearance. That doesn't change the fact that he's 2 cool though.

:shakefist what a bummer. I suppose a glimpse is better than nothing

welcome around :wOOt

[Toomin]

AMAN. :hi5 What's up, man?

[martryn]

What we need is another ninja war to break out fo reals. They keep talking about a war in the manga, but what's-his-face doesn't have any troops. If there were fodder troops I bet we'd see lots of fodder ninjas getting their ass owned by Konoha extras.

There's still a chance that Genma will be in the team that's hunting down Anko, right?

[Pesky Bug]

What we need is another ninja war to break out fo reals. They keep talking about a war in the manga, but what's-his-face doesn't have any troops. If there were fodder troops I bet we'd see lots of fodder ninjas getting their ass owned by Konoha extras.

There's still a chance that Genma will be in the team that's hunting down Anko, right?
I really hope you mean "searching" for Anko. :oh Not much of a reason to hunt her tbh. And I don't think she got any back up after Yamato and Sai were called back to Konoha for the rebuild, though Danzo did send ROOT to find Kabuchimaru before her.

As for the war, Kishi's too obsessed with Sasuke to think of the others. A toothpick from Genma, a snake from Anko, a swing from Raido's black blade. The Konoha 11 will be lucky to do anything other that watch Naruto. :( But maybe that's just me losing faith in Kishi. Who knows, he could surprise us by giving a damn for secondary characters.

[Aman]

Welcome, Pesky Bug. You seem like a dedicated fan. :)

Sup Toomin? :D :beer

[Toomin]

:beer Not much, dude. Just trying to get the will to study for my econ final. :arg

[Okeaninai]

:salute Good Luck with finding the will for that, Toomin. That's a challenge.

[Toomin]

I'll be starting soon!

[Okeaninai]

...and how many hours has gone by since you first posted about that? :hoho

[Toomin]

Four....:(

[Okeaninai]

discipline is a handy thing :kickcan

Good luck on your test, by the way. are you in cram mode?

[Toomin]

Not really. I understand all the material. I just hope I don't get confused....

[Okeaninai]

nerve-wrecking, that is.

Now for a random question - that I really should know the answer to but... i've forgotten, I know he's a special jounin but - did Genma actually serve as an ANBU member at all? I generally don't like using anything 'wiki' but I got bored and looked around the naruto-specific one... he's not listed as one so, I thought I'd ask.

[Toomin]

Nothing definitive is known about that, but I like to think most of the jounin have been ANBU at some point. It makes them even cooler.

[Okeaninai]

Most of them? But if that was the case, then being in ANBU wouldn't be such a... prestige? elite type of thing, as it is supposed to be.