Serenity crew vs. SG1 vs. Enterprise Crew vs Galactica Crew

[blacklusterseph004]

Serenity crew:
Mal
Jayne
Zoe
River

SG1:
Jack
Ti'ilk
Carter
Daniel (normal human)

Enterprise Crew:
Picard
Riker
Data
Worf

Galactica Crew:
Apollo
Starbuck
Helo
Tie

The enterpise crew only get standard phasers ,one phase rifle, and no tricorders. Everyone else gets standard kit. Battleground is Olduvai, the research facility from the movie Doom.

[Wesley]

River and Data are real problems. They could probably solo everyone really.

[EvilMoogle]

Oh 4-on-4(-on-4-on-4)?

River kills everyone in the first heartbeat.

[Hale]

Jack oneil solo's this he's fought worse aliens then river before

[Doggie]

Enterprse without a doubt.

They have Picard :nuts

[Gooba]

Data is a beast, he kills everyone. Like half of TNG was Data going bad and defeating the entire Enterprise crew until he feels like going good again.

[Hale]

Data is a beast, he kills everyone. Like half of TNG was Data going bad and defeating the entire Enterprise crew until he feels like going good again.
pft teal'c could take data easily

[Kaiox]

Wow, way to totally mispell "Teal'c"

[Limit_Tester]

Gotta go with the Serenity crew. Overall they are the most competent group and they have a killing machine/psychic in the form of river. River will automatically know what everyone else is doing with the exception of data, who would be the only problem. Jayne and Mal are excellent shots and River is of course impossibly good. Even Zoe can hold her own in a shoot out. This leads me to believe that everyone but Data will be eliminated rather quickly who is more durable and just plain better than everyone else. However, the Serenity team also has grenades so data can be taken out if durability proves to be a problem.

[Chatulio]

Worf and Data take this barely the only threats are River and Teal'c really. River being who she is probably kills everyone

[Kaiox]

Had the original post not restricted Daniel Jackson's Ascended Being state, SG-1 would definately win, but River is a beast. So I would have to place my bets on Serenity.

[blacklusterseph004]

Well to look at levelling things out:

The Serenity crew does have the most archaic weapons, and they don't have body armour. They do have two war veterans with experience, a merc with insane accuracy and physical strength, and a partial telepath that can shoot and fight hand-to-hand better than any human being.

SG1: Have weapons that have a much larger rate of fire than any other team, plus they have longer range. They also wear kevlar (i think) and they pack grenades and zats. Their radio com system is standard kit, so they are always in contact. All with the exception of Daniel are trained soldiers.

Enterprise crew: They don't really suffer from ammo shortage. They have moderate marine training while Worf and Data are more so. Data has superior reaction speeds and physical strength. Worf is very capable in hand-to-hand. They are probably the worst trained for this kind of fight, and they have no body armour. As far as I know, Data isn't particularly durable.

Galactica Crew: They are all trained soldiers. Their weapons are quite powerful, as they can take down the mettallic cylon troops with the standard hand gun. They have rapid firing weapons and they are granted body armour for this fight.

[Gooba]

Enterprise crew: They don't really suffer from ammo shortage. They have moderate marine training while Worf and Data are more so. Data has superior reaction speeds and physical strength. Worf is very capable in hand-to-hand. They are probably the worst trained for this kind of fight, and they have no body armour. As far as I know, Data isn't particularly durable.One thing I'd like to point out is that with their weapons body armor is useless. So while the armor will help with SG1 vs BSG or Firefly, the fact they don't have any just makes the durability playing field equal. Setting your phasers to kill does just that.

Data at his best makes River's shootout in War Stories look like amateur hour. I think the episode was "Fistful of Datas" where he goes evil in the holodeck in a shootout with Worf. In there he shows why he would be able to take out every opposing person in this fight before they can aim.

[blacklusterseph004]

One thing I'd like to point out is that with their weapons body armor is useless. So while the armor will help with SG1 vs BSG or Firefly, the fact they don't have any just makes the durability playing field equal. Setting your phasers to kill does just that.
True enough. I mentioned specifically because most of the other teams use bullets. Yes it doesn't matter for the trek guys, but I think it is worth mentioning.

Data at his best makes River's shootout in War Stories look like amateur hour. I think the episode was "Fistful of Datas" where he goes evil in the holodeck in a shootout with Worf. In there he shows why he would be able to take out every opposing person in this fight before they can aim.I think that the fight is still even because SG1 at least own everyone else with weapons range and rate of fire. So Data will not have his way with them. With Jayne using Vera, I think he has the Trek team ranged as well. Only the Galactica team is completely vunerable though. Even so, Olduvai is not an open area, and Data doesn't have eyes on the back of his head. He is up against some very well trained and cunning adversaries.

[Gooba]

True enough. I mentioned specifically because most of the other teams use bullets. Yes it doesn't matter for the trek guys, but I think it is worth mentioning.Oh I definitely agree it is important, since it will matter in 3/4ths of the fights, I just figured that other 1/4th deserved mention too. :P
I think that the fight is still even because SG1 at least own everyone else with weapons range and rate of fire. So Data will not have his way with them. With Jayne using Vera, I think he has the Trek team ranged as well. Only the Galactica team is completely vunerable though. Even so, Olduvai is not an open area, and Data doesn't have eyes on the back of his head. He is up against some very well trained and cunning adversaries.I think Phasers and the Phase Rifle are pretty much strictly better than any of the other guns. They are adjustable and have much more destructive capabilities. As far as rate of fire goes, they have infinite. If they need to it can act as a constant laser, which they have used to seal doors and heat up rocks (in ST6 on the lowest possible power setting). For range, it can go as far as they are accurate, which probably won't come up given the current battlefield.

When you go to training, I don't think anyone tops Worf's for warfare like this. Him and Picard both have lots of experience with stealthy expeditions, and theirs is even more impressive given the tech level they have to sneak around against. As an aside, I think we can all agree the overall tech level of Star Trek is the highest here, right? Not that it really matters too much, since they only have access to the phasers. While he can't see behind him, he does have very good hearing and fast reflexes so he can probably turn around before the other guys could set up.

[blacklusterseph004]

I think Phasers and the Phase Rifle are pretty much strictly better than any of the other guns. They are adjustable and have much more destructive capabilities. As far as rate of fire goes, they have infinite. If they need to it can act as a constant laser, which they have used to seal doors and heat up rocks (in ST6 on the lowest possible power setting). For range, it can go as far as they are accurate, which probably won't come up given the current battlefield.I haven't seen them use the phasors in constant fire mode much, especially in a fire fight. The phasors do do great damage, but I think it's pretty much a given that any one hit in a vital spot by any of the weapons these teams are carrying will be fatal.

When you go to training, I don't think anyone tops Worf's for warfare like this. Him and Picard both have lots of experience with stealthy expeditions, and theirs is even more impressive given the tech level they have to sneak around against. As an aside, I think we can all agree the overall tech level of Star Trek is the highest here, right? Not that it really matters too much, since they only have access to the phasers. While he can't see behind him, he does have very good hearing and fast reflexes so he can probably turn around before the other guys could set up.Star Trek does have the best tech. SG1 probably has the worst/lowest. That said though, I think that the limit I put on the Trekkies evens this out. Also, I don't think Worf is particualrly more expereinced or better trained that anyone of these other teams except Galactica. SG1's track record speaks for itself. And a lot of the fighting the Serenity Crew has been in , is close quarters fire fights.