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Birkin
03-05-2007, 05:49 AM
Fight occurs in the desert, no nearby water. Can the Narutoverse kill off "By fire be purged!"

Art of Run
03-05-2007, 06:56 AM
This is horrid rape. It takes 40 level 60's to beat rag. No summon gonna kill him.

Birkin
03-05-2007, 07:04 AM
But in general, any Naruto char can beat a lvl 60 :o

Art of Run
03-05-2007, 07:07 AM
But in general, any Naruto char can beat a lvl 60 :o

Fuck no :D

Resistances FTW

Khamzul
03-05-2007, 08:52 AM
^Wouldn't count on it. All my Naruto characters vs lvl 60's didn't go the way of the ninja.

Now as to the fight, I don't think that the major Summons / Bijuu would lose. Kyuubi would have no problem, for example. Examples of people who could put up a fight could possibly be Gaara, as his AoE is the one with the biggest effect so far. Deidara is another candidate, but I do not know if Ragnaros would be bothered with his attacks.

This depends on what perspective you see this in though. Narutoverse would have no problem with 30 level 60's. But if you think about Ragnaros lorewise he is much more powerful then a few nin.

Goodfellow
03-05-2007, 10:01 AM
Well, technically, the Ragnaros is a big wuss. Fourty jounins could take him on!!

Well, alright, let's hype him a little bit, let's say that the akatsuki could take him on^^

And yes, I know that my argument has no real effect, I know nothing about this guy, besides that which has been said. I just assumed that a level 60 = jounin

Haruni
03-05-2007, 02:12 PM
Really, Ragnaros couldn't take on the narutoverse Your placing him against way more than 40 fucking people. Plus most of the ninjas way fucking surpass your level 60 People in WoW.

Kung Lao
03-05-2007, 02:24 PM
Kisame > Ragnaros.

Fenix
03-05-2007, 02:49 PM
Kisame > Ragnaros.

That's completely wrong

He is not extra vulnerable to water/frost attacks. But he is immune to fire.

Giovanni Rild
03-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Rogue>>>>Jonin

Shadowstep FTW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIt6r3Ys6GI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqhl3rh4Yl8&mode=related&search=

Goodfellow
03-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Rogue>>>>Jonin

Shadowstep FTW

Wait a minut, won't a jounin own a rouge o.O Zabuza, Kakashi, everyone seem to be able to sneak and backstab:amazed !!

Giovanni Rild
03-05-2007, 03:00 PM
Wait a minut, won't a jounin own a rouge o.O Zabuza, Kakashi, everyone seem to be able to sneak and backstab:amazed !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIt6r3Ys6GI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqhl3...elated&search=

Anyway, Rogue stealth>>>>>>>Narutoverse stealth

Birkin
03-05-2007, 03:44 PM
Pff, warlock power to the end! Let the shadowbolts fly

Haruni
03-05-2007, 04:17 PM
WoW sucks! It can't compare to the narutoverse at all!

Giovanni Rild
03-05-2007, 04:20 PM
WoW sucks! It can't compare to the narutoverse at all!

http://www.wowwiki.com/Dreadlord

1 Dreadlord can pwn Narutoverse.

Rice Ball
03-05-2007, 08:49 PM
Narutoverse with ease.

Just because you've been ganked by raggy for the past 2 years and you've only just managed to kill him with your pug, it doesn't mean hes nigh unbeatable.

It means your shit at WoW.

Fenix
03-05-2007, 09:17 PM
Narutoverse with ease.

Just because you've been ganked by raggy for the past 2 years and you've only just managed to kill him with your pug, it doesn't mean hes nigh unbeatable.

It means your shit at WoW.

This reply shows how much of a scrub you are at WoW

First you try to attempt to laugh at people for not being able to kill Rag

Then you say "killing him with a pug". Need I remind you these "pugs" are 99% of the time organized by guilds who have him on farm status or no longer even does MC. So if "my" pug killed him, i sure as hell did not struggle with him for 2 years.

Besides, why are you even bringing up Rag's ingame difficulty now? BC is out, noone does the old raids anymore

Also, "ganked" by a mob? Who says that? Ganking is and has always been about pvp

Way to throw around terminologies you don't know anything about.

Back to the topic though. Using in-game mechanics is dumb.

Lore wise, Ragnaros is the immortal fire lord of all the fire elementals in the WoW world. If Titans can't defeat him directly (they banished all the elementals by defeating and banishing the Old Gods who maintain the elementals' essences in the physical world", then Kyuubi and the likes sure as hell can't.

Limit_Tester
03-05-2007, 09:27 PM
I think most of the people in this thread are underestimating the power of a level 60, although I think Narutoverse might be able to win. Level 60's have the advantage of obscene durability and strength, although they lack in speed. For example, my level 60 paladin can stand still while being chomped a near indefinite period of time by a bear. And that same bear can be killed with 1/10th of one strike. If a bear has 20 hitpoints, and Ragnaros has 1.1 million hitpoints, then killing him might be pretty difficult. And by the same token, he one-shots level 60's. And are we counting the fact that Ragnaros resets if he isn't contantly fought?

thegoodjae
03-05-2007, 10:52 PM
....well i was playing wow and even with aspect of the cheetah on or having a mount im slower than any normal genin. also the griffin mount is not that fast either, or at least fast enough for the human eye to see what is passing by. as for naruto characters, they speedbliz too fast even for ninja eyes. anyways rag would die. just throw a couple summons in there...we saw what gammas waterball does on the land, and waht katsuya can do. they can level forest easily.

the only thing WoW has that is amazing is durability. Strength isnt even that ridiculous, seriously, druids cant even turn into stuff like gamma or manda at level 60. shamans and paladins would be the only useful thing. hunnters guns are weak enough to not kill stuff like bears in 10 shots when same level. WoW also doesnt have wide ranga attacks unless you count totem poles. idk WoW can withstand pain well but this is just ragnaros, i mean seriously, there is around 1000 ninjas altogether and im sure they wuld rape him inside out. even the akatsuki or all the kages now i think can do it. some one like gaara himself maybe. ragnaros didnt ever show in the game wtf he can do to get out of the avanlanche. he afterall, onlly can hurt living objects, not the environment, plus WoW characters jumpin abilties and movement suck too.

Orion
03-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Stop using game mechanincs its getting retarded,lore ragnaros would melt all the freaking ninjas with lava or fire and thats the end of it,massively powerful beings couldnt even completely destroy ragnaros what in the hell makes you think ninjas who couldnt even deal with someone like kyuubi can take out ragnaros.

Hale
03-06-2007, 12:11 AM
Stop using game mechanincs its getting retarded,lore ragnaros would melt all the freaking ninjas with lava or fire and thats the end of it,massively powerful beings couldnt even completely destroy ragnaros what in the hell makes you think ninjas who couldnt even deal with someone like kyuubi can take out ragnaros.
Wait is this game vs show or lore vs show, Lore vs show is always gonna be unfair because lorewise most things are invincible or damn close, the only way to be fair would be lore of both vs or game vs show
Edit: I bet kirin from ffxi pwns ragnaros >.>

Fenix
03-06-2007, 01:22 AM
lorewise most things are invincible or damn close

Not really

Plenty of things die in the Warcraft lore

thegoodjae
03-06-2007, 01:51 AM
vlaad either you havent played WoW or never read naruto. did you ever hear of something called, sasori can kill around alot of level 60s with ease. his poison last till death unlike alot of WoW poisons.

Also, the only amazing thing WoW characters have is durability. but thats only because the attacks are weak as hell, i mean seriously, how can you not kill a 16 bear with a gun when level 14. even if weaker, a gun should be strong enough jsut to kill a bear. this shows that WoW attacks are really low. each class also doesnt have many attacks as you think. over half of them you dont learn or are useless once you get stronger.

rogue stealth also disappears once a rogue attacks once. a kage bushin can easily take care of that, also, no WoW player would even be able to spot stuff taht are fast as hell, like the chidori would just killl them. Chidori is hell of alot stronger than stuff like dumb lighting from a mage, that barely kills a wolf when first gotten.

thinking kyuubi would lose to rag is ignorant. ragnaros and kyuubi are just fire gods, wouldnt even make since.

But seriously, if you jump of a cliff, you get hurt. ninjas just go jump from cliff to cliff, going just down hill straight, i mean any naruto genin can do anything speed feat greater than any level 60.

seriously, i saw my friend and a bunch of other people against ragnaros and they took him out in a decent amount of time plus he didnt have anything note worthy compared to gaara's continous avalanche. even at his size he can be buried and drowned....well WoW people dont drown but im sure rag would just die in a lake.

i serously believe gaara and kisame can take him in a matter of a minute.. fight is in the desert as the first post says. all that has to happen is, kisame shoots out a lake, while gaara takes the sand needed in air, then once underwater. finished. hes sure as hell not fast enough to dogde that.

gamma can so ragnaros too. gamma is from a fire breathing or fire resistant clan, plus he shoots huge waterballs, wtf is ragnaros gonna do. this is either narutohaters or WoWfanboys, this is just bs thinking ragnaros can solo narutoverse. utter bs

Orion
03-06-2007, 02:46 AM
vlaad either you havent played WoW or never read naruto. did you ever hear of something called, sasori can kill around alot of level 60s with ease. his poison last till death unlike alot of WoW poisons.

Also, the only amazing thing WoW characters have is durability. but thats only because the attacks are weak as hell, i mean seriously, how can you not kill a 16 bear with a gun when level 14. even if weaker, a gun should be strong enough jsut to kill a bear. this shows that WoW attacks are really low. each class also doesnt have many attacks as you think. over half of them you dont learn or are useless once you get stronger.

rogue stealth also disappears once a rogue attacks once. a kage bushin can easily take care of that, also, no WoW player would even be able to spot stuff taht are fast as hell, like the chidori would just killl them. Chidori is hell of alot stronger than stuff like dumb lighting from a mage, that barely kills a wolf when first gotten.

thinking kyuubi would lose to rag is ignorant. ragnaros and kyuubi are just fire gods, wouldnt even make since.

But seriously, if you jump of a cliff, you get hurt. ninjas just go jump from cliff to cliff, going just down hill straight, i mean any naruto genin can do anything speed feat greater than any level 60.

seriously, i saw my friend and a bunch of other people against ragnaros and they took him out in a decent amount of time plus he didnt have anything note worthy compared to gaara's continous avalanche. even at his size he can be buried and drowned....well WoW people dont drown but im sure rag would just die in a lake.

i serously believe gaara and kisame can take him in a matter of a minute.. fight is in the desert as the first post says. all that has to happen is, kisame shoots out a lake, while gaara takes the sand needed in air, then once underwater. finished. hes sure as hell not fast enough to dogde that.

gamma can so ragnaros too. gamma is from a fire breathing or fire resistant clan, plus he shoots huge waterballs, wtf is ragnaros gonna do. this is either narutohaters or WoWfanboys, this is just bs thinking ragnaros can solo narutoverse. utter bs
Iv read naruto about 12 times fully,and play end game wow,ragnaros lorewise would destroy all of narutoverse quite easily sasori gets melted,gaara's sand gets turned it glass from the heat,and kisame's lake would instantly turn into steam,ragnaros's heat is too much for narutoverse,and kyuubi in naruto hasnt used one fire attack so you have no proof he is like his myth counterpart.

Fenix
03-06-2007, 12:39 PM
vlaad either you havent played WoW or never read naruto. did you ever hear of something called, sasori can kill around alot of level 60s with ease. his poison last till death unlike alot of WoW poisons.

Also, the only amazing thing WoW characters have is durability. but thats only because the attacks are weak as hell, i mean seriously, how can you not kill a 16 bear with a gun when level 14. even if weaker, a gun should be strong enough jsut to kill a bear. this shows that WoW attacks are really low. each class also doesnt have many attacks as you think. over half of them you dont learn or are useless once you get stronger.

rogue stealth also disappears once a rogue attacks once. a kage bushin can easily take care of that, also, no WoW player would even be able to spot stuff taht are fast as hell, like the chidori would just killl them. Chidori is hell of alot stronger than stuff like dumb lighting from a mage, that barely kills a wolf when first gotten.

thinking kyuubi would lose to rag is ignorant. ragnaros and kyuubi are just fire gods, wouldnt even make since.

But seriously, if you jump of a cliff, you get hurt. ninjas just go jump from cliff to cliff, going just down hill straight, i mean any naruto genin can do anything speed feat greater than any level 60.

seriously, i saw my friend and a bunch of other people against ragnaros and they took him out in a decent amount of time plus he didnt have anything note worthy compared to gaara's continous avalanche. even at his size he can be buried and drowned....well WoW people dont drown but im sure rag would just die in a lake.

i serously believe gaara and kisame can take him in a matter of a minute.. fight is in the desert as the first post says. all that has to happen is, kisame shoots out a lake, while gaara takes the sand needed in air, then once underwater. finished. hes sure as hell not fast enough to dogde that.

gamma can so ragnaros too. gamma is from a fire breathing or fire resistant clan, plus he shoots huge waterballs, wtf is ragnaros gonna do. this is either narutohaters or WoWfanboys, this is just bs thinking ragnaros can solo narutoverse. utter bs

Why do you keep bringing up low level WoW stuff?

Are those the only things you know ?

I don't even wanna try to counter your stupid points. Sasori's poison kill till death?! Okay fine, but did you know wow chars can cure poison?

You "saw your friends fight rag" ? So you admit you don't know crap about the mechanic behind the fight ?


Saying Naruto ninjas can kill Rag is like saying you can kill rag with just Rogues and gimped Mages

Not happening

Rice Ball
03-06-2007, 02:36 PM
1 billion level 60 rogues with no weapons could kill him in a second :)


First you try to attempt to laugh at people for not being able to kill Rag

No i laugh at people who lick its ass. A level 60 character in wow is discribed as a minor hero of the Warcraftverse, just like say.. every Ninja is to the narutoverse?

Then you say "killing him with a pug". Need I remind you these "pugs" are 99% of the time organized by guilds who have him on farm status or no longer even does MC. So if "my" pug killed him, i sure as hell did not struggle with him for 2 years.

I was talking about those funny 40man level 70 pugs you see, funny stuff.


Also, "ganked" by a mob? Who says that? Ganking is and has always been about pvp

Way to throw around terminologies you don't know anything about.

Oh, I believe ganked can mean a great deal of things, from Stolen to killed.
In MMORPGS its used to discribe an encounter where one side (normally higher level or better equiped) killed another, which is what i guess happened here.

Fenix
03-06-2007, 03:38 PM
1 billion level 60 rogues with no weapons could kill him in a second :)

Cause there are one million ninjas in naurotverse right? in a world where the strongest village only produced 9 genins in one YEAR, there are millions of strong ninjas right?






No i laugh at people who lick its ass. A level 60 character in wow is discribed as a minor hero of the Warcraftverse, just like say.. every Ninja is to the narutoverse?

Oh, definitely. It is a minor hero. Then again, where do you draw the line? Do you go with the...Lore stuff? Or game mechanics? You cant just ignore all the abilities and treat them as equals of a regular ninja simply because of their similar ranks within their own universes





I was talking about those funny 40man level 70 pugs you see, funny stuff.

I dont know what server you play on, but any attempt to do such thing on Mal'ganis you would be laughed off the server. But yes I do realize what you mean, there are ppl who do this with their 70 stuff i suppose.



Oh, I believe ganked can mean a great deal of things, from Stolen to killed.
In MMORPGS its used to discribe an encounter where one side (normally higher level or better equiped) killed another, which is what i guess happened here.

Gank is a corrupted form of Gang-Kill. Which has always been about player vs. players in WoW. I won't comment on other MMOs, since I'm not famailiar with too many of them. Rag is from WoW afterall, and it's an AI scripted monster.

Dshadow1839
03-06-2007, 04:44 PM
You dont need to kill someone or something to defeat it. Narutoverse may not be able to kill Ragnaros, but saying they wouldnt be able to defeat him is silly. He was banished once, and he can be banished again.

Fenix
03-06-2007, 05:40 PM
You dont need to kill someone or something to defeat it. Narutoverse may not be able to kill Ragnaros, but saying they wouldnt be able to defeat him is silly. He was banished once, and he can be banished again.

He was banished after the Old Gods were defeated and chained beneath the world.

The Old Gods were in fact, pound for pound, stronger than the Titans who shaped countless worlds in their journey around the nether.

So no, they can't banish him.

thegoodjae
03-06-2007, 08:25 PM
k i admit, only level 48 shaman but still, i know the mechanics or ragnaros in and out. i study all the maps and levels of it. trust me, i saw videos and stuff just for this post. i think you are basically thinking of 1000 ninjas verse a firelore. now considering 100 of these ninjas to use water and other one of these to have fire immune frogs that shoot big waterballs, im sure ragnaros isnt takin these guys out. i think you are being really biased on WoW.

duh wow people can cure poison. but every one uses the same poison in WoW. Sasori has a special poison. i was bringing those weak level monsters just to show that real monsters in our world was hard to kill by these guys even with a gun or a lighting bolt coming out there hands.

ragnaros also doesnt have the advantage of the dungeon and has no lava near him for people to screw over with. basicall a desert and him against everyone.

would it be easy for everyong(cause everyone is definantly fast enough) to dogde any attack, even the ones knocking you back like 20-30 yards, just all at once do the biggest ater jutsu they know against him. im sure it would have some affect on him. also, Ragnaroscan just be desert avanal nhe over, so what if it turns to glass, then its a big huges class heap that falls on him, also gaara has an endless supply in the desert. this is stupid. seriously.

Fenix
03-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Okay it's go time since I'm doing laundry and might as well humor you



k i admit, only level 48 shaman but still, i know the mechanics or ragnaros in and out. i study all the maps and levels of it. trust me, i saw videos and stuff just for this post.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ok sry

i think you are basically thinking of 1000 ninjas verse a firelore. now considering 100 of these ninjas to use water

So what? He is not extra vulnerable to water. I already stated this. People need to wear armor crafted specifically to resist fire to even survive against him, and this is with healers backup far beyond Tsunade's capabilities.


and other one of these to have fire immune frogs that shoot big waterballs

Hmm no. Only ONE frog has been stated to be fire immune. Gamma has never been said to be fire immune, and only he has shown to be able to shoot giant water balls. The other frogs are all tiny.



i think you are being really biased on WoW.

i think you're being biased about Naruto, since you're obviously making stuff up.



duh wow people can cure poison. but every one uses the same poison in WoW. Sasori has a special poison.

everybody uses the same poison? what!? rogue poisons are the same as hunter poison!? Princess Huhuhuhuhuhuuhuhuhuhuhuhhuuhran uses the same poison as players ? Not only is that not true ingame, it also makes zero sense lore-wise.


i was bringing those weak level monsters just to show that real monsters in our world was hard to kill by these guys even with a gun or a lighting bolt coming out there hands.

So low level lightning takes a bit to take out low level monsters!? I think that's fairly obvious isnt it?!

Do you see low level players in MC ? NO YOU DONT. So it's irrelevant.


ragnaros also doesnt have the advantage of the dungeon and has no lava near him for people to screw over with. basicall a desert and him against everyone.

That's true, terrain is part of the fight.


would it be easy for everyong(cause everyone is definantly fast enough) to dogde any attack, even the ones knocking you back like 20-30 yards

Ok this is why I laughed when you said you watched vids and stuff. His knockback is a small range AoE attack. If you're in melee range or close, you will be sent flying.

This is why everyone, except for the Main Tank, backs out when the AoE is coming. If by some chance the MT (with 300+ Fire reist should be resisting a good amount of the knockbacks) is also sent flying, the OT rushes in so someone is in melee range. If noone is in melee range, he starts throwing fire blasts randomly. Need I remind you those things are not visible, not dodgable and certainly pwns anyone without fire resists. Go look up more detailed numbers/names if you want. check wowwiki


, just all at once do the biggest ater jutsu they know against him. im sure it would have some affect on him.

I suppose....but the point is defeating him. Not "have some effect on him." You sound like youre accepting defeat (as you should be) already using such weak statement.


also, Ragnaroscan just be desert avanal nhe over, so what if it turns to glass, then its a big huges class heap that falls on him, also gaara has an endless supply in the desert.

Yeah, those sand and glass are really gonna stop the legendary Sulfuras hammer that has struck down the Prince of Air himself.

this is stupid. seriously.

it is stupid, for you to argue a group of ninjas (total number unknown, unconfirmed) can defeat an elemental god. you ignore his lore strength, then shows you obviously don't have enough knowledge of his ingame mechanics. so what's the point -_-

Rice Ball
03-07-2007, 02:26 PM
The prince of Air was a wuss.

Dshadow1839
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
So basically, youre saying that 40 level 60's can take on the entire Narutoverse.

Giovanni Rild
03-07-2007, 04:10 PM
So basically, youre saying that 40 level 60's can take on the entire Narutoverse.

Yup. 40 Mages could.

40 Warlocks do it with ease

40 Hunter rape narutoverse.

Limit_Tester
03-07-2007, 04:28 PM
Yup. 40 Mages could.

40 Warlocks do it with ease

40 Hunter rape narutoverse.

Yeah... thats not happening.

Birkin
03-07-2007, 04:30 PM
Yup. 40 Mages could.

40 Warlocks do it with ease

40 Hunter rape narutoverse.

You're saying 40 hunters can take out 40 warlocks? That's not happening, anywhere remotely close to today.

The Internet
03-07-2007, 04:51 PM
Ragnaros would be on the level of Kyuubi most likely.

Giovanni Rild
03-07-2007, 05:20 PM
You're saying 40 hunters can take out 40 warlocks? That's not happening, anywhere remotely close to today.

No. People misunderstand me on purpose. That list vs narutoverse.

The Internet
03-07-2007, 05:35 PM
I don't think a lvl 60 is equal to that of a powerful naruto character, though honestly, in Warcraft Lore character would tear apart anyone from Naruto.

Fenix
03-07-2007, 08:21 PM
So basically, youre saying that 40 level 60's can take on the entire Narutoverse.

Is this thread about 40 players vs. narutoverse?

No it's not

The fact that you even try to say it shows you don't know anything about the Rag fight.

Ragnaros is about 40 players wearing Fire Resist gear taking him down

So, if 40 lvl 60's can somehow get their hands on Ninja Resist gears, then yes, I do think they can take down Narutoverse.

Kisame
03-07-2007, 08:46 PM
I always go by the lore/books for games like Halo/starcraft/warcraft and the likes.

And Raganaros would own this.

he is defeatable by 40 level 60's because if we went according to lores then he would rampage on all those newbs and take over the game.

Hale
03-07-2007, 11:39 PM
I always go by the lore/books for games like Halo/starcraft/warcraft and the likes.

And Raganaros would own this.

he is defeatable by 40 level 60's because if we went according to lores then he would rampage on all those newbs and take over the game.
Raganaros would take the kyuubi... I don't know if i can agree with this, the 9 tailed fox that destroys mountains with a wave of it's tail?

Kisame
03-07-2007, 11:47 PM
the 9 tailed fox that destroys mountains with a wave of it's tail?no this is the nine tail fox that was held off by kunais.

Hale
03-08-2007, 11:25 AM
no this is the nine tail fox that was held off by kunais.
I don't recall seeing any kunai's thrown at maybe you can provide me with a scan?

Dshadow1839
03-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Is this thread about 40 players vs. narutoverse?

No it's not

The fact that you even try to say it shows you don't know anything about the Rag fight.

Ragnaros is about 40 players wearing Fire Resist gear taking him down

So, if 40 lvl 60's can somehow get their hands on Ninja Resist gears, then yes, I do think they can take down Narutoverse.


The Rag fight? Its a basic tank and spank fight, with some adds thrown in to try and spruce things up. /yawn. But whats to stop the Narutoverse from being able to come up with some type of resist gear? Game-wise, it would only take 1 char who was immune to fire (which there is a summon in Narutoverse that is) to beat Rag. Lore-Wise....I gotta read up on it to be sure, but I think he was banished by the Titan's. So its not really a fair fight in my opinion. Might as well ask who would win in a fight between a cat and mouse IRL.

Fenix
03-08-2007, 07:53 PM
The Rag fight? Its a basic tank and spank fight, with some adds thrown in to try and spruce things up. /yawn.

That's essentially what every fight comes down to. It's the variables that make it unique. Loatheb, 4 Horse Men, all huge roadblocks in Naxxramas, despite their super unique designs, still come down to tank + dps. All encounters are boring after the 10th time, way to *yawn* over common sense.



But whats to stop the Narutoverse from being able to come up with some type of resist gear? Game-wise, it would only take 1 char who was immune to fire (which there is a summon in Narutoverse that is) to beat Rag.

Well, noone has really shown to have any FR gear. We've seen fire supressors by Jiraiya, so I wouldn't count it out tbh. That's a valid point I guess

Still it takes alot more than one person wearing FR gear, and you can't become Immune with just FR gear anyway. There's a hard cap.





Lore-Wise....I gotta read up on it to be sure, but I think he was banished by the Titan's. So its not really a fair fight in my opinion. Might as well ask who would win in a fight between a cat and mouse IRL.

Well, that's what battledome threads are for. There are tons of unfair ones, shrug.

Giovanni Rild
03-08-2007, 08:00 PM
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=191465


Lore thread(Still in progress)

Dshadow1839
03-08-2007, 08:13 PM
That's essentially what every fight comes down to. It's the variables that make it unique. Loatheb, 4 Horse Men, all huge roadblocks in Naxxramas, despite their super unique designs, still come down to tank + dps. All encounters are boring after the 10th time, way to *yawn* over common sense.




Well, noone has really shown to have any FR gear. We've seen fire supressors by Jiraiya, so I wouldn't count it out tbh. That's a valid point I guess

Still it takes alot more than one person wearing FR gear, and you can't become Immune with just FR gear anyway. There's a hard cap.





Well, that's what battledome threads are for. There are tons of unfair ones, shrug.

I said "basic" tank and spank fight. Tank goes up to Rag, hits on him, while everyone else is spread out and beats on him. Only time they move is when he does his PBAOE and when the sons come out. Not a lot of fights are like that outside of MC.

I was speaking theoretically. I said "If" someone could be fire immune (which they cant).

And....point taken.

Giovanni Rild
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Ragnaros burns Narutovsere to a crisp

Nahrootoe
03-09-2007, 07:53 AM
I said "basic" tank and spank fight. Tank goes up to Rag, hits on him, while everyone else is spread out and beats on him. Only time they move is when he does his PBAOE and when the sons come out. Not a lot of fights are like that outside of MC.

I was speaking theoretically. I said "If" someone could be fire immune (which they cant).

And....point taken.

Applying game mechanics is stupid, because you can't translate the Narutoverse into a system that is compatible with WoW.

By this logic, Ragnaros can attack more than one ninja at the same time because many of his attacks target one macro unit.

Naturally, you have to take the lore/logical model of the representative side. And in this case, Ragnaros literally owns this fight. Gamabunta is not stated to be fire immune. Secondly, the durability in WoW is absolutely obscene compared to the Narutoverse. Given that the majority of the ninjas won't have fire resistant gear, they get burned to a crisp.