Kiba vs Akatsuki Round Two (Read First Post before responding) [Archive]

KuwabaraTheMan

02-28-2007, 08:50 PM

Well, with the old threads gone, and some new info on Akatsuki, it is time to bring this back.

Info on the fight:
Akatsuki is with Sasori
Kiba has infinite stamina
Kiba faces the Akatsuki members one at a time
He has been briefed on all their abilities and has confered before hand with those who have fought them(so he knows about Kakuzu's 5 hearts, Itachi's genjutsu, Sasori's heart, etc) This includes being able to talk to Chiyo(somehow) to find out about Sasori's traps

Kiba has an infinite supply of Sakura's antidote
He has a special pill which makes him immune to Itachi's genjutsu

So, can Kiba pull if off?

Kyon

02-28-2007, 08:53 PM

Deidara takes to the sky, and blasts the hell out of him. He has no long range capabilities to speak of, so he'll lose.

Or Kisame could drown him and take however much chakra he needs.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-28-2007, 08:55 PM

Deidara takes to the sky, and blasts the hell out of him. He has no long range capabilities to speak of, so he'll lose.
Kiba would dodge them and then Garouga Deidara to hell.

He's too fast for Deidara.

Or Kisame could drown him and take however much chakra he needs.

Kiba's not dumb enough to get stuck in the water.

Shik@maru

02-28-2007, 09:06 PM

Maybe but i doubt it

Esponer

02-28-2007, 09:24 PM

Victoream

02-28-2007, 09:28 PM

Kisame would own him.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-28-2007, 09:36 PM

If Kiba is fast enough to dodge all of Deidara's attacks and has the skill to completely avoid Kisame's Suiton, then he is some imaginary Kiba who may just be able to pull this off.

The Kiba I know and love couldn't do it. Neither could Wolf's Rain's Kiba, as amazing as he is.

Kiba was the fastest of the Rookie 9 pre-timeskip. Post-skip that should still be the case, therefore he is fast enough.

Kyon

02-28-2007, 09:42 PM

Kiba was the fastest of the Rookie 9 pre-timeskip. Post-skip that should still be the case, therefore he is fast enough.

There is still the matter of him hitting Deidara once Deidara takes to the skies.

This is how high he is in the sky. Kiba does not have an attack that can reach that range. (http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol28.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13630)

Esponer

02-28-2007, 10:00 PM

Kiba was the fastest of the Rookie 9 pre-timeskip. Post-skip that should still be the case, therefore he is fast enough.
Kiba was the fastest or second fastest of the Rookie Nine in Part I, yes (Databook suggests the fastest, some evidence in the series suggests Sasuke was capable of being faster). It is not true to say that this must be the case in Part II, nor is it true to say that being the fastest of the Rookie Nine would automatically make him so much faster than Deidara or other Akatsuki members that he could avoid their attacks.

Ryugaisan

02-28-2007, 10:05 PM

Kiba was the fastest of the Rookie 9 pre-timeskip. Post-skip that should still be the case, therefore he is fast enough.

30% Kisame was owning Base Gai in speed so unless you're saying PTJ Kiba is faster than Base Gai, Kiba is not faster than Kisame. Considering Kiba has gotten no real power upgrades besides infinite stamina, Kisame will just catch him eventually and own the crap out of him.

KuwabaraTheMan

02-28-2007, 10:29 PM

Kisame can't survive being ripped in two by Garouga.

Shik@maru

02-28-2007, 10:34 PM

Kisame can't survive being ripped in two by Garouga.

but dont forget that kisame is not a low rank ninja, it wouldnt be that easy for kiba to kill kisame with the garouga

Kyon

02-28-2007, 10:36 PM

Kisame can't survive being ripped in two by Garouga.

That's assuming Kiba can actually connect a hit on Kisame with Garouga. Remember, he can't see with Garouga and goes by smell alone, the entire reason for Dynamic Air Marking and I have enough faith in Kisame that he can either dodge a bunch of piss or wash it off quickly.

That and he can turn the entire battlefield into water, giving Kiba no real safe haven.

Hell, Itachi could probably do this without genjutsu. If Kiba were to come at him with Garouga, he can see it coming and use Amaretsu to burn Kiba.

Of course, once Deidara takes to the skies this battle is easily won. I've covered that in a previous post.

Any of the unknown characters have a chance of taking him. However, until we see them who knows?

Kai

02-28-2007, 11:19 PM

Pakkun said he lost Sasuke's scent because of the rain after Naruto vs Sasuke.

Kiba will lose his smell once Kisame performs a similar feat.

Gooba

03-01-2007, 01:13 AM

I don't think there is a single Akatsuki Kiba could beat.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-01-2007, 01:24 AM

I don't think there is a single Akatsuki Kiba could beat.

Hidan is easy enough since he can avoid being cut. Not to mention Garouga is a bad match for Hidan since it takes his body apart.

Kakuzu is just a battle of attrition.

Kisame if he can avoid him he can win the battle.

With Itachi, the lack of genjutsu takes away Itachi's biggest weapon.

Deidara is his toughest match, but he can just keep dodging, and take him down.

Kyon

03-01-2007, 01:28 AM

Hidan is easy enough since he can avoid being cut. Not to mention Garouga is a bad match for Hidan since it takes his body apart.

Yup.

Kakuzu is just a battle of attrition.

And a hell of a lot of dodging. I think Kiba could possibly beat Kakuzu, but S-rank elemental jutsus are not to be ignored. They could possibly stand up to Garouga, and it's a matter of time before Kakuzu would get a lucky shot.

Kisame if he can avoid him he can win the battle.

That's a pretty big if.

With Itachi, the lack of genjutsu takes away Itachi's biggest weapon.

True enough, but Itachi is godly for other reasons.

Deidara is his toughest match, but he can just keep dodging, and take him down.

How can Kiba kill him if he can't hit him?

Gooba

03-01-2007, 01:35 AM

Hidan is easy enough since he can avoid being cut. Not to mention Garouga is a bad match for Hidan since it takes his body apart.Kiba starts spinning in, Hidan dodges to the side and sticks out his big scythe and gets some blood, GG.

Kakuzu is just a battle of attrition.He could use his tenticles to slow down Kiba and send in massively powerful elemental jutsus to destroy him. Plus I don't know if Kiba could even get past his Earth Defense.

Kisame if he can avoid him he can win the battle.I like this think of this match as Mark McGuire on even more steroids vs a baseball. Plus, he could just wash off the urine and be immune to Gatsuga in which case Kiba is even more screwed. Even if he left it on he is fast enough to dodge.

With Itachi, the lack of genjutsu takes away Itachi's biggest weapon.Luckally for him, he has hundreds of others which could beat Kiba. Like Exploding Kage Bunshin, make him ram into one of those. Or just burn him down with some Katons/Amaretsu. He would never get hit by such a linear attack at Gatsuga with his MS prediction and his speed.

Deidara is his toughest match, but he can just keep dodging, and take him down.He can keep dodging, until he fails to and dies. I don't see Deidara ever letting Kiba get close enough to hit him.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-01-2007, 11:45 AM

Kiba starts spinning in, Hidan dodges to the side and sticks out his big scythe and gets some blood, GG.
Kiba's way too fast for Hidan to dodge.

Even if he did, and that's a huge if, it would be Akamaru's blood(remember when in Garouga form Akamaru will always take the blow for Kiba).

[quoe]He could use his tenticles to slow down Kiba and send in massively powerful elemental jutsus to destroy him. Plus I don't know if Kiba could even get past his Earth Defense.[/quote]
Kiba's strong enough to get past the defense.

The Elemental Jutsu are tricky, but Kiba is probably fast enough to dodge. He just needs to keep dodging and getting in strong hits.

I like this think of this match as Mark McGuire on even more steroids vs a baseball. Plus, he could just wash off the urine and be immune to Gatsuga in which case Kiba is even more screwed. Even if he left it on he is fast enough to dodge.

Kisame may be fast, but not Garouga level fast. You have a good point about him washing off the urine, but I think Kiba can still pull it out.

Luckally for him, he has hundreds of others which could beat Kiba. Like Exploding Kage Bunshin, make him ram into one of those. Or just burn him down with some Katons/Amaretsu. He would never get hit by such a linear attack at Gatsuga with his MS prediction and his speed.

Garouga would hit him, though. Itachi wouldn't be fast enough to dodge.

If he did use Exploding Bunshin, only Akamaru would be hurt. But there's a problem there. Kiba would sniff out the real Itachi, so that would never happen.

You say Kiba's attacks are linear, well Amaterasu certainly is, Kiba could easily dodge with his Lee-level speed.

He can keep dodging, until he fails to and dies. I don't see Deidara ever letting Kiba get close enough to hit him.

Kiba has infinited stamina in this fight, remember.

And he could probably reach Deidara with a Garouga.

Orga777

03-01-2007, 12:10 PM

Not this stupid thread again...

Kakuzu would own him in... Well, about one second. Probably with the first kick.

Deidara, blows him to itty bitty peices. Kiba has something call lack on intellect, he will be caught in one of the explosions eventually.

Sasori kills him with the Kazekage puppet. Kiba does NOT have the strength to shatter it like Sakura, and Sasori is definitly quick with his fingers to get the puppet out of harm if Kiba goes Garouga. Eventually, the Iron Sand will kill him, and if not, then he is wiped off the planet by the Puppet Army.

Kisame totally kills him. Water Clones + Kiba's stupidity= Kiba loses. Not to mention Samehada drains chakra. Kiba goes down. And are we forgetting that it took 6 Gates just to beat a 30% clone? Kisame would totally kill him.

Hidan kills him within the first minute as well. Kiba is stupid, and will not use Garouga off the bat, even if he already knew about Hidan's immortality. He WILL be cut, and he WILL be killed. And don't underestimate Hidan's speed, he was able to keep up with Kakashi in a fight as well as Asuma.

Itachi kills him too. Amaratsu (sp?), and Kiba is a cooling corpse. And if not, he has all the other Jutsu's that he can use to pull out.

Pretty much he dies to every single one of them and would STILL only last about a minute each battle. Kiba has no intellect and relys mostly on instinct. Not to mention he is an overconfident person that will end up being killed.

Gooba

03-01-2007, 02:05 PM

I think you are horribly underestimating the speed of people who can keep up with Kakashi going all out if you think Kiba is way way faster than them, enough for his big linear jutsu to always hit them. Also, I don't see how he will dodge while doing Garouga.

Kiba is just totally outclassed here, but a lot. If Kiba could take them all down, they wouldn't be a threat to anyone. For storyline reasons it makes no sense for Kiba to be able to win, and the feats of the various nins involved backs it up. If Sakon/Ukon can dodge him, so can these S Rank nins.Itachi wouldn't be fast enough to dodge.You're joking right?

sel

03-01-2007, 03:44 PM

the only way sakura managed to beat/get close to sasori was while chiyo controlling her + chiyos puppets ; no way kiba could touch sasori

KuwabaraTheMan

03-01-2007, 05:39 PM

Not this stupid thread again...

Kakuzu would own him in... Well, about one second. Probably with the first kick.
Kakuzu isn's THAT strong. And Kiba is fast enough to dodge. Kakuzu would be a tough opponent, but Kiba could wear him down.

Deidara, blows him to itty bitty peices. Kiba has something call lack on intellect, he will be caught in one of the explosions eventually.

Kiba's actually very sharp, he's the one who comes up with all of Team 8's strategies, and he managed to outsmart Sakon many times.

Deidara isn't exactly a Rhodes Schollar himself.

Sasori kills him with the Kazekage puppet. Kiba does NOT have the strength to shatter it like Sakura, and Sasori is definitly quick with his fingers to get the puppet out of harm if Kiba goes Garouga. Eventually, the Iron Sand will kill him, and if not, then he is wiped off the planet by the Puppet Army.

Garouga is way stronger than Sakura. Hell, it managed to make a dent in Orochimaru's ultimate defense PRE-timeskip.

Post-skip he should be ripping through anything like butter. He'd be able to break the puppets, since he has conferred with Chiyo.

A) Kiba isn't stupid, he's smart
B) Kiba has infinite stamina in this fight, so Samehada is irrelevant

Garouga would tear Kisame in two, so everything else is pointless.

[quote]Hidan kills him within the first minute as well. Kiba is stupid, and will not use Garouga off the bat, even if he already knew about Hidan's immortality. He WILL be cut, and he WILL be killed. And don't underestimate Hidan's speed, he was able to keep up with Kakashi in a fight as well as Asuma.

KIBA IS NOT STUPID.

He knows Hidan's ability, he avoids being cut and rips Hidan in two. The end.

Itachi kills him too. Amaratsu (sp?), and Kiba is a cooling corpse. And if not, he has all the other Jutsu's that he can use to pull out.
What other jutsu? Stop making stuff up.

Esponer

03-02-2007, 11:29 AM

Kiba's intelligence in Part I ranged between 1.0 and 1.5. This is equivalent to Naruto, and joint second lowest in the Rookie Nine (Chouji being lowest). Kiba is not intelligent. His strategies in both of his fights have been "Charge!"

And I agree with you Hinata's Fan, anybody who claims Itachi knows any techniques other than Tsukuyomi is making things up. All other techniques he's demonstrated have been imaginary.

Orga777

03-02-2007, 12:59 PM

Kakuzu isn's THAT strong. And Kiba is fast enough to dodge. Kakuzu would be a tough opponent, but Kiba could wear him down.

Yea? I have a feeling Kakashi thought he was a strong opponent. Especially when he got kicked which leveled some damn trees.

Deidara isn't exactly a Rhodes Schollar himself.

Of course that is contradictory to the manga. Dei has great analytical skills.

Garouga is way stronger than Sakura. Hell, it managed to make a dent in Orochimaru's ultimate defense PRE-timeskip.

And? These guys are fast enough to MOVE out of the way and won't need anything like that. Sakon also was not fast, or even strong. Remember, the Sound 4 had to use CS2 against two tired Jounin. They were wimps.

Post-skip he should be ripping through anything like butter. He'd be able to break the puppets, since he has conferred with Chiyo.

And your point is what? He is also a damn idiot that lets people get teh best of him. All you have to do is look at the Naruto fight to see that.

A) Kiba isn't stupid, he's smart
B) Kiba has infinite stamina in this fight, so Samehada is irrelevant

Stamina is NOT the same thing as chakra. If chakra runs out, you die. All stamina does is keep you in the fight longer.

Garouga would tear Kisame in two, so everything else is pointless.

Except it would not even HIT him. He was keeping up with Gai for heavens sakes.

KIBA IS NOT STUPID.

Of course that totally contradicts all his fights which he never planned out real well.

He knows Hidan's ability, he avoids being cut and rips Hidan in two. The end.

Asuma knew to avoid it too, but guess what? He didn't, and he died. Asuma is smarter than Kiba, Kiba is a close range fighter, Kiba dies.

What other jutsu? Stop making stuff up.

He has the god damn Sharingan. He COPIES jutsu. If you are too blind to see that, then this whole discussion is useless... Oh wait, it was useless when it was posted...

Zeche

03-03-2007, 01:49 AM

Wow...

If he faces Hidan first he dies of old age.
If Deidara? Then Deidara takes flight and Kiba dies of old age or gets bombed to death.
If Kisame?Kisame argueably physically strongest in the series and Kiba is almost all taijutsu so it's overkill.
If Kakuzu? Kiba can't cut through iron skin and would get killed by one explosion. He might be able to dodge one if hes lucky but not if all 5 corner him and tenticles trap him.
If Sasori or Itachi? Just lol....

03-03-2007, 01:52 AM

Agree with him ^ XD

MasamuneX7

03-03-2007, 06:40 AM

Kiba loses against any of them. I don't need to explain. It's not like you can be persuaded anyways. That's how these character bias threads usually flow.

KuwabaraTheMan

03-05-2007, 12:29 AM

Yea? I have a feeling Kakashi thought he was a strong opponent. Especially when he got kicked which leveled some damn trees.
Yeah, but Kiba is physically stronger than Kakashi, by quite a bit.

Of course that is contradictory to the manga. Dei has great analytical skills.

He tends to not think things through very well, though. He gets rash often.

And? These guys are fast enough to MOVE out of the way and won't need anything like that. Sakon also was not fast, or even strong. Remember, the Sound 4 had to use CS2 against two tired Jounin. They were wimps.

Do you comprehend how fast Kiba was pre-timeskip? And he got faster with Garouga.

Most Akatsuki members would be outclassed by that speed.

Stamina is NOT the same thing as chakra. If chakra runs out, you die. All stamina does is keep you in the fight longer.
Well, Kiba is faster than Kisame, so it's not like he'd get hit a whole lot anyways.

Except it would not even HIT him. He was keeping up with Gai for heavens sakes.
Kiba with Garouga is faster than Gai post skip, I'm sure. Look at how fast he was at age 12, and look at how much everyone has come in 3 years.

Of course that totally contradicts all his fights which he never planned out real well.
He always plans well. Just look at how many traps he lured Sakon into.

Asuma knew to avoid it too, but guess what? He didn't, and he died. Asuma is smarter than Kiba, Kiba is a close range fighter, Kiba dies.

Kiba also has preptime, and is far, far faster than Asuma.

He has the god damn Sharingan. He COPIES jutsu. If you are too blind to see that, then this whole discussion is useless... Oh wait, it was useless when it was posted...

Not everyone uses their Sharingan to copy jutsu, though. Sasuke never has.

He might, but for the purpose of this thread, we're going on what we've seen from him.

Anbu Squad 7 Leader

03-05-2007, 09:12 PM

Kakuzu owns him in one second with his invisible Katon Zukkoku.
Kisame shaves him with Samehada.
Deidera 18's him to death.
Itachi is too fast.
Sasori's puppets easily kill Kiba, especially Kazekage puppet.
Hidan is immortal, but he will have the most trouble, but he will also have the easiest time, because he can hit Akamaru and Kiba for blood and kill the other through blackmail. And Akamaru is a lot bigger now, so its easier to hit.
Zetsu can eat Kiba.
Tobi would be such a good boy that Kiba would bow down in shame of being so cocky.
Lol, Kiba cannot handle any Akatsuki, yet...

DmonkeyD

05-30-2008, 06:23 PM

Hidan is easy enough since he can avoid being cut. Not to mention Garouga is a bad match for Hidan since it takes his body apart.

Kakuzu is just a battle of attrition.

Kisame if he can avoid him he can win the battle.

With Itachi, the lack of genjutsu takes away Itachi's biggest weapon.

Deidara is his toughest match, but he can just keep dodging, and take him down.

wow,now this is a kibatard^^.

Vagrant Tom

05-31-2008, 06:16 AM

Ragormha

05-31-2008, 06:22 AM

Everyone who says Kiba loses are idiots. Kiba is your god. Akamaru pisses in Itachis eyes, gg. Kiba blitzes Deidera before he can fly, gg. Kiba destorys all Kakazus hearts in one with garuga, gg. Hidan... lol. Sasori quits and kills himself (again) at the idea of fighting Kiba, gg. Wolf > Fish, gg Kisame. Kiba defeats all of Peins bodies with his taijutsu, 6 on 2 isn't enough, gg.

Please VT, it's most distasteful to resort to fanboyism here.

I like Kiba, he's a wacky and fun kinda guy with a reckless street and damn the consequences, the way a good movie cop should be (which marks Shino his by-the-book partner who has to cover his ass.)

But seriously, Akatsuki is out of his league, like a wolf howling at the moon.