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Misery D Spare
02-27-2007, 08:07 AM
Hinata will be treated as being the same as she was post skip because we have no evidence to the contrary. So Hinata in the same frame of mind as during the figt with Neji vs post skip Sakura.

They've both got one hit kills and both rely on taijutsu so who wins between the two

PradaBrada
02-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Not enough info on Hinata's skills, but Sakura probably takes this.

Panic Attack
02-27-2007, 12:56 PM
With no info on time-skip Hinata's abilities, i'd say this is a gimme to Sakura.

Blue
02-27-2007, 01:05 PM
Not enough info on Hinata's skills, but Sakura probably takes this.
I'd say so. Hinata has the advantage of the Byakugan, but unlike the Sharingan, it doesn't disadvantage taijutsu fighters like Sakura.

While on the other hand Sakura was trained by the Godaime Hokage.

Misery D Spare
02-27-2007, 02:41 PM
Are you guys suggesting Sakura's form of taijutsu is superior to Jyuuken. If anything I'd say Sakura's fighting style is only slightly better than Naruto's as shown in the flashback her style is based on avoiding hits and finishing fights quickly.

IMO Hinata's taijutsu pre-skip exceeded Sakura's post skip and can only have gotten better

PradaBrada
02-27-2007, 03:42 PM
Are you guys suggesting Sakura's form of taijutsu is superior to Jyuuken. If anything I'd say Sakura's fighting style is only slightly better than Naruto's as shown in the flashback her style is based on avoiding hits and finishing fights quickly.

No, Jyuuken is superior, but Sakura's taijutsu skills are probably higher than Hinata's.

IMO Hinata's taijutsu pre-skip exceeded Sakura's post skip and can only have gotten better

I really doubt Hinata preskip had the skills to face Sasori and survive.

Blue
02-27-2007, 03:48 PM
Hinata's Taijutsu was easily superior to Sakura's pre-skip.

Fast forward 2.5 years of insane training with the Hokage.

Sakura's taijutsu is now a one-hit kill. Unlike Juuken, which relies on the Byakugan to pinpoint vital areas and damage them with a number of hits, Sakura only needs to hit you once, anywhere, and you're paste.

When fighting Sakura, you need to keep your distance or you're dead - and that's one thing Hinata cannot do.

Spell
02-27-2007, 04:00 PM
When fighting Sakura, you need to keep your distance or you're dead - and that's one thing Hinata cannot do.
Not true. There is still possibility to dodge those punches. However we do not know much about Hinata post-timeskip. We can only assume, but I dislike assumptions in battledome, therefore I'm not going to state who would win.

TWF
02-27-2007, 04:04 PM
Sakura's training with Godaime Hokage exceeds Hinata's Jyuuken and Taijutsu abilties. Plus she's an extremely talented medic-nin who is already on her way to surpassing Tsunade, whatever Hinata does, she can heal it if allowed to.

Sakura helped kill Sasori. She's levels above Hinata, even with her bloodline limit and Byakugan.

Spell
02-27-2007, 04:07 PM
Sakura's training with Godaime Hokage exceeds Hinata's Jyuuken and Taijutsu abiltiesI'll repeat my mantra again: not enough evidence. None of us know how much stronger is Hinata post-timeskip.

durtycheese
02-27-2007, 04:28 PM
no info on hinatas skills, but ilil say sakura since she was trained by the current hokage.

Blue
02-27-2007, 04:47 PM
I'll repeat my mantra again: not enough evidence. None of us know how much stronger is Hinata post-timeskip.
In any battle that has not actually occurred in the series, assumptions must be made. While I'd be the first to admit that there's not a ton of evidence, what evidence we do have - Hinata being a mediocre Hyuuga, Sakura receiving training from the Hokage herself, everything Sakura has shown up to this point, and the nature of Hinata's abilities, one can make a reasonable assumption.

Woozie
02-27-2007, 06:05 PM
Until we see Hinata in action we can only compare to the pretimeskip one, and it doesn't take a Sasuke to know the outcome.

TreeofSephri
02-27-2007, 06:06 PM
Hinata wins this. Hinata has trained her whole life in taijutsu. Sakura may have a one hit kill punch but what is the point if she cannot hit you. Hinata would close her tenketsu and get rid of her ability to channel chakra into her hands. Not to mention that Jyuken hits still hurt even when they miss so her evasion will not be that useful.

Chee
02-27-2007, 06:08 PM
Hinata wins this. Hinata has trained her whole life in taijutsu. Sakura may have a one hit kill punch but what is the point if she cannot hit you. Hinata would close her tenketsu and get rid of her ability to channel chakra into her hands. Not to mention that Jyuken hits still hurt even when they miss so her evasion will not be that useful.

Your forgetting that Sakura is a medical ninja and is quite smart. She can find a way to get past those.

TWF
02-27-2007, 06:08 PM
Hinata wins this. Hinata has trained her whole life in taijutsu. Sakura may have a one hit kill punch but what is the point if she cannot hit you. Hinata would close her tenketsu and get rid of her ability to channel chakra into her hands. Not to mention that Jyuken hits still hurt even when they miss so her evasion will not be that useful.

Evading a kage level ninja like Sasori and his puppets and jutsus> Hinata's Jyuuken and taijutsu abilties. Easily.

Blue
02-27-2007, 06:11 PM
Evading a kage level ninja like Sasori and his puppets and jutsus> Hinata's Jyuuken and taijutsu abilties. Easily.
Very easily.

Also remember that when attacking with Taijutsu, you cannot evade an enemy's blows, only block them - look at Neji vs. Hinata for an example - and you cannot block Sakura.

Misery D Spare
02-27-2007, 06:15 PM
Hinata wins this. Hinata has trained her whole life in taijutsu. Sakura may have a one hit kill punch but what is the point if she cannot hit you. Hinata would close her tenketsu and get rid of her ability to channel chakra into her hands. Not to mention that Jyuken hits still hurt even when they miss so her evasion will not be that useful.

Finally someone see's what I'm seeing. Sakura's taijutsu is sub par. It's saved from being utterly useless by virtue of the fact she can cause great damage if she lands a hit. As for one hit kills Jyuuken can kill you in one blow if it hits a vital spot.

You can't use medical jutsu if you can't use your chakra and I doubt there are drugs that re open them because that would pretty much render useless the Jyuuken style.

In addition Sakura avoiding a puppet user does not equate to her avoiding a taijutsu user. Not only are they completely differant style they recquire completely differant responses.

Beau Logan
02-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Using my ninja 'sKiLlz' of seeing underneath the underneath. I can see this is a pairing debt on the inside.

Any-who. I'm going with Sakura.

She's not only a one-hit kill, she has speed now, something which Hinata has shown to lack. Now while Hinata's abilities haven't been shown in this period as of yet...I believe Sakura would win as Godaime's training would be of a higher caliber that of a head of house.

Blue
02-27-2007, 06:40 PM
Finally someone see's what I'm seeing. Sakura's taijutsu is sub par. As for one hit kills Jyuuken can kill you in one blow if it hits a vital spot.
What makes you say Sakura's taijutsu is subpar? As for killing in one hit - the only Hyuuga we've seen do that is Hiashi. Neji was unable to do any such thing.

In addition Sakura avoiding a puppet user does not equate to her avoiding a taijutsu user. Not only are they completely differant style they recquire completely differant responses.Wrong. Sakura defends against taijutsu users by reading the movements of their limbs. She's so incredibly good at this she could read the movements of Sasori's puppets by watching his fingers. After that, Hinata would probably be playtime.

hyuuga_neji14732
02-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Sakura wins

gabzilla
02-27-2007, 08:19 PM
In any battle that has not actually occurred in the series, assumptions must be made. While I'd be the first to admit that there's not a ton of evidence, what evidence we do have - Hinata being a mediocre Hyuuga, Sakura receiving training from the Hokage herself, everything Sakura has shown up to this point, and the nature of Hinata's abilities, one can make a reasonable assumption.

Well, Sakura was a mediocre ninja pre-time skip, so it isnīt fair to judge Hinata before seeing her fight post-time skip.

Micah
02-27-2007, 08:23 PM
Were this a pre-timeskip battle I would give it to Hinata. However it isnt :( Seeing as how Hinata's battle abilities havnt been shown yet I can only make assumptions, and I assume that Sakura wins this fight.

narutofangd
02-27-2007, 08:28 PM
Well you have to consider that the Hyuuga's, people who use the style Jyuuken are the worst natural enemy to people like Sakura and Tsunade who's main offensive is augmenting their strength with perfect timed Chakra release.

In this scenario Sakura could not afford to allow Hinata to hit her once because if she did and manage to close or even impede the Tenkstu flow, the augmented strength would vanish.

Basically watch what Kabuto did to Tsunade when he severed her muscles but only more effective

Sakura would have to start and finish the fight in a one-hit KO but it's not like Hinata is going to stand still and allow that we have seen the strength of the Hyuuga defence.

Veil of Dreams
02-27-2007, 08:34 PM
We don't know Hinata's abilities after the timeskip. It's impossible to say. Nonetheless, I'll counter some poor points.

Hinata's Taijutsu was easily superior to Sakura's pre-skip.

Fast forward 2.5 years of insane training with the Hokage.

Sakura's taijutsu is now a one-hit kill. Unlike Juuken, which relies on the Byakugan to pinpoint vital areas and damage them with a number of hits, Sakura only needs to hit you once, anywhere, and you're paste.

When fighting Sakura, you need to keep your distance or you're dead - and that's one thing Hinata cannot do.

Sakura's hits are so powerful because she focuses chakra into them. If Hinata hits first, Sakura loses her strength, and it's all downhill from there. The gentle fist is said to be the greatest taijutsu style there is, with its chakra and body disabling strikes. The weakness of those specializing in gentle fist taijutsu is apparently long range combat, which Sakura does not seem to be capable of. Sakura is at a natural disadvantage, so she actually needs to be stronger than Hinata to match her.

Very easily.

Also remember that when attacking with Taijutsu, you cannot evade an enemy's blows, only block them - look at Neji vs. Hinata for an example - and you cannot block Sakura.

Yes you can. Hinata and Neji were evading and blocking in that fight.

Lastly, keep in mind that Hinata is (probably) a taijutsu specialist, whereas Sakura is divided between taijutsu and medical jutsu. Medical jutsu will serve no purpose in a fight where hits also cut off chakra flow.

TreeofSephri
02-27-2007, 08:58 PM
The thing people are forgetting is that Jyuken blows never really miss. Even if the actually hit misses then the chakra will knick you. Chakra hurts. No matter how much see evades she will get hurt and then damage will build up.

TWF
02-27-2007, 11:50 PM
It's over. Blue ownt this thread.

Dre
02-28-2007, 12:04 AM
Sakura was trained by my favorite person in the naruverse so i give it to her.

Blue
02-28-2007, 12:45 AM
Sakura's hits are so powerful because she focuses chakra into them. If Hinata hits first, Sakura loses her strength, and it's all downhill from there.How is Hinata supposed to hit first, exactly? Are her arms that much longer than Sakura's?

The gentle fist is said to be the greatest taijutsu style there is, with its chakra and body disabling strikes. The weakness of those specializing in gentle fist taijutsu is apparently long range combat, which Sakura does not seem to be capable of.The weakness of Sakura is apparently long range combat, which Hinata does not seem to be capable of.
As for Gentle Fist - I'm very much sure it is the greatest. But the greatest martial artist in the world is helpless when mauled by a bear.
What doesn't seem to be registering here is that Hinata apparently has to close to melee range to fight, and once there absolutely nothing is going to stop Sakura from punching her into chunky salsa. Were Sakura of anything approaching normal strength, Juuken could block the incoming blows and prevail. Blocking Sakura will be the end of whatever you use to block with.
Sakura is at a natural disadvantage, so she actually needs to be stronger than Hinata to match her.She's not?

Yes you can. Hinata and Neji were evading and blocking in that fight.Evasion comes before attack. Try hitting something while dodging. And if you really want to argue evasion, Sakura is the one evading multiple puppets based on the movements of someone's fingers. There is really no comparison.

Lastly, keep in mind that Hinata is (probably) a taijutsu specialist, whereas Sakura is divided between taijutsu and medical jutsu. Medical jutsu will serve no purpose in a fight where hits also cut off chakra flow.Honestly, I don't enjoy being unimaginative, but keep in mind that Sakura ends battles in one hit. She won't be the one needing medical jutsu.

Seto Kaiba
02-28-2007, 01:02 AM
I'd give this one to Sakura.

Pein
02-28-2007, 03:23 AM
hinata she probably learned byakugans master moves

TWF
02-28-2007, 03:30 AM
Someone explain to me how the Jyuuken empowers Hinata the ability to overcome super-human strength.

naruhina26
02-28-2007, 03:47 AM
I`ll get back to you when Kishi finally shows what Hinata learned in 2.5 years

Veil of Dreams
02-28-2007, 03:54 AM
How is Hinata supposed to hit first, exactly? Are her arms that much longer than Sakura's?

How is Sakura supposed to hit first, then? Each person can't afford to be hit by the other, so each person will place an emphasis on dodging until they can land a critical hit.

The weakness of Sakura is apparently long range combat, which Hinata does not seem to be capable of.
As for Gentle Fist - I'm very much sure it is the greatest. But the greatest martial artist in the world is helpless when mauled by a bear.

The greatest martial artist usually can't incapacitate a bear with a few strikes. Hinata doesn't have that problem.

What doesn't seem to be registering here is that Hinata apparently has to close to melee range to fight, and once there absolutely nothing is going to stop Sakura from punching her into chunky salsa.

Tell that to Kabuto. He didn't seem to have a problem going toe to toe with Tsunade even before taking advantage of her phobia, and Tsunade is supposed to be a legendary ninja, stronger than both Sakura and Kabuto. So much for the amazing super strength taijutsu, eh?

Were Sakura of anything approaching normal strength, Juuken could block the incoming blows and prevail. Blocking Sakura will be the end of whatever you use to block with.
She's not?

You don't seem to be understanding the way Sakura's super strength works. Kakashi describes it as "she builds up the maximum amount of chakra in her fist, then releases it in an instant". (V28_C246_P11) Sakura's attack is not strong until the moment of impact, and the chakra is focused in the fist, not the entire arm. By parrying the attack (Knocking aside or redirecting the arm so that the attack's energy is wasted on air, instead of just blocking by putting a less vital part of your body directly in the attack's path), Hinata is able to circumvent Sakura's super strength.

It's a battle of dodging and parrying attacks that will be pretty much decided by the first hit. If Sakura hits, it's knockout. If Hinata hits, it will disable chakra flow, thus crippling both Sakura's strength AND jutsu. (Unlike Kabuto's chakra knife attacks which could only cripple Tsunade's strength) While Hinata needs to land more than one hit to win, the fight becomes much more in her favor with each hit. If Hinata hits first, weakening Sakura's strength, she can no longer take out Hinata in one hit. Sakura becomes exponentially less dangerous with each gentle fist strike that lands, but the gentle fist will remain dangerous as long as Hinata is capable of attacks.

Evasion comes before attack. Try hitting something while dodging. And if you really want to argue evasion, Sakura is the one evading multiple puppets based on the movements of someone's fingers. There is really no comparison.

Yes, Sakura is good at evading, medics are supposed to be. So are taijutsu specialists, since they specialize in up-close combat. Just look at Neji vs. Kidoumaru, Neji vs. Naruto, Naruto or Lee vs. Kimimaro...

Honestly, I don't enjoy being unimaginative, but keep in mind that Sakura ends battles in one hit. She won't be the one needing medical jutsu.

The point was that she divides her time between learning taijutsu and learning medical jutsu, whereas Hinata likely focuses all her time in taijutsu. Even if Sakura has more potential, her time is split in half, and the half spent on medical jutsu will end up being a waste against a gentle fist user like Hinata.

Woozie
02-28-2007, 06:01 AM
Also remember that when attacking with Taijutsu, you cannot evade an enemy's blows, only block them - look at Neji vs. Hinata for an example - and you cannot block Sakura.

Yeah, which is why Kabuto, who sucks in taijutsu, was kicking Tsunade like a dog in the ground with it. And Hinata is a taijutsu specialist.

And Jyuuken should have the same effect as chakra scalpel, few hits to the right place and no more super-strength.

Evading a kage level ninja like Sasori and his puppets and jutsus> Hinata's Jyuuken and taijutsu abilties. Easily.

Sakura avoiding Sasori's attacks? When did this happen?

Marsala
02-28-2007, 06:10 AM
Hinata faints, and the massive impact of her hitting the ground throws Sakura off her feet and into a hard object headfirst, knocking her out.

Tie.

Spell
02-28-2007, 09:04 AM
In any battle that has not actually occurred in the series, assumptions must be made. While I'd be the first to admit that there's not a ton of evidence, what evidence we do have - Hinata being a mediocre Hyuuga, Sakura receiving training from the Hokage herself, everything Sakura has shown up to this point, and the nature of Hinata's abilities, one can make a reasonable assumption.
Yes, sometimes assumptions must be made. But believe me this fight isn't good for assumptions, because we know absolutely nothing about Hinata post-timeskip. It's like Jiraiya vs AL, no one except Kishimoto is able to state who would win this.

In that case any assumption would not be wise here. And the fact Sakura trained under Tsunade does not prove her training was better quality than Hinata'a, could you ensure me Hinata wasn't trained by Hiashi or someone from the elite of Hyuuga?

Mangekyo Bankai
02-28-2007, 02:50 PM
Finally someone see's what I'm seeing. Sakura's taijutsu is sub par. It's saved from being utterly useless by virtue of the fact she can cause great damage if she lands a hit. As for one hit kills Jyuuken can kill you in one blow if it hits a vital spot.

You can't use medical jutsu if you can't use your chakra and I doubt there are drugs that re open them because that would pretty much render useless the Jyuuken style.

In addition Sakura avoiding a puppet user does not equate to her avoiding a taijutsu user. Not only are they completely differant style they recquire completely differant responses.

I agree completely. Sakura took Sasori on with the help of 10 Chikamatsu puppets while being controlled by a master puppeteer. That has nothing to do with throwing down with a Jyuuken specialist 1 on 1. I'm guessing filler moves don't count here so that thing she did with the chakra whips is out of the question. But even just her normal style of fighting would take Sakura.

Tsunade's taijutsu isn't all that great, from what we've seen it's just a bunch of straight on punch manuevers. And really, thats what both her and Sakura seem to rely heavily on. Sakura most likely focused more on studying and medical training than actual combat techniques in the past 2.5 years. Hinata hits the right Tenketsu, and there goes Sakura's strength and healing abilities. It would be an interesting fight however.

Law
02-28-2007, 10:00 PM
If Hinata improved as much as Sakura did over the time-skip, then this would be an entertaining fight.
The OP says we have to answer this question ASSUMING that Hinata still fights like she did against Neji. Spirited, but not game-winning...

If we follow the OP's rules for the question - then the outcome is clear. She lacks the confidence to skillfully avoid Sakura's attacks, and would try and block them. She would then get tossed halfway across the battlefield. Hinata is for the moment my favorite character and has been since the Chuunin exams...but if we cannot imagine them both improving, Sakura takes this one easily.

So take off that rule that we have to assume Hinata hasn't improved any...she trained at LEAST as hard as Sakura through the time-skip, where the only difference (albeit a huge difference) is Sakura was trained by a Legendary Sannin.
If they both improved at an equal rate in their respective jutsu...

This battle goes to Hinata.

-HE

TWF
02-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Someone explain to me how the Jyuuken empowers Hinata the ability to overcome super-human strength.

Still waiting for answer. But I bet it'll be like this. Regardless of her training with Jyuuken, the strongest of Konoha's taijutsu styles, it doesn't change the level of difference between her and Sakura's pyshical difference.

One blocked blow would equal Hinata's whole arm shattering. If not outright broken to pieces.

TreeofSephri
02-28-2007, 10:27 PM
Still waiting for answer. But I bet it'll be like this. Regardless of her training with Jyuuken, the strongest of Konoha's taijutsu styles, it doesn't change the level of difference between her and Sakura's pyshical difference.

One blocked blow would equal Hinata's whole arm shattering. If not outright broken to pieces.

Knowing about Sakura's insane power, do you actually think she would resort to blocking? She could merely release chakra from the area Sakura is aiming.

Veil of Dreams
02-28-2007, 10:38 PM
Still waiting for answer. But I bet it'll be like this. Regardless of her training with Jyuuken, the strongest of Konoha's taijutsu styles, it doesn't change the level of difference between her and Sakura's pyshical difference.

One blocked blow would equal Hinata's whole arm shattering. If not outright broken to pieces.

The answer is to do the same thing Kabuto did to Tsunade. Play evasion until you can land a hit and disable the super strength. The difference is where Kabuto used a chakra scalpel to sever muscles, Hinata would use Jyuuken to cut off chakra flow. No chakra = no super strength, or any jutsus for that matter.

I made a more detailed post on this earlier, and the answer pretty much boils down to first hit wins on either side. It shouldn't be hard to find.

KuwabaraTheMan
02-28-2007, 11:25 PM
Hinata just needs to hit once and Sakura loses. The Byakugan plus superior taijutsu form lets her do just that.

Close combat against a Hyuuga is tantamount to suicide.

Hinata wins with relative ease. Doubt she even breaks a sweat.

Lafiel4
02-28-2007, 11:38 PM
It's hard to take Hinata seriously when all the opponent has to do is henge into "N-N-Naruto-kun!!!". <faints>

Mangekyo Bankai
02-28-2007, 11:45 PM
Hinata's Byakugan allows her to see the immense and irregular chakra build-up in Sakura's fist prior to attack, I doubt she would try to block. If Sakura's first punch misses and hits something then it will break, and Hina-chan will be like "Oh shit, I'd better not let this broad hit me or it's lights out." (or something along those lines haha). So it would be pure evasion and Hinata was able to keep up with Neji back in part 1, so I'm pretty sure she can dodge Sakura's punches fairly easily. It's not like Sakura has crazy speed or anything, and she doesn't have any special Taijutsu skill from what we've seen. It's just Sakura with super strength. One hit takes that away. And her medical prowess doesn't come into play here because the only time she would need it is if she got injured... and if Hinata injures her then she most likely won't be able to use her medical abilities.

It would be a good fight, but Hinata seems to have the advantage here, even if we assume (and this is highly implausible) that she hasn't improved at all since the chuunin exam.

TreeofSephri
03-01-2007, 12:30 AM
Sakura is not known for her taijutsu skill. She just happens to have one hell of a punch. She is about to fight someone who has trained all her life in a unique form of taijutsu. Engaging a jyuken user in taijutsu is crazy as hell because their blows never miss. If the actually hit misses, then the chakra will hit you. The damage may be slight but it accumulates and will lower your performance over time. Then Hinata close her tenketsu and battle is over.

Veil of Dreams
03-01-2007, 12:53 AM
Hinata's Byakugan allows her to see the immense and irregular chakra build-up in Sakura's fist prior to attack, I doubt she would try to block. If Sakura's first punch misses and hits something then it will break, and Hina-chan will be like "Oh shit, I'd better not let this broad hit me or it's lights out." (or something along those lines haha). So it would be pure evasion and Hinata was able to keep up with Neji back in part 1, so I'm pretty sure she can dodge Sakura's punches fairly easily. It's not like Sakura has crazy speed or anything, and she doesn't have any special Taijutsu skill from what we've seen. It's just Sakura with super strength. One hit takes that away. And her medical prowess doesn't come into play here because the only time she would need it is if she got injured... and if Hinata injures her then she most likely won't be able to use her medical abilities.

It would be a good fight, but Hinata seems to have the advantage here, even if we assume (and this is highly implausible) that she hasn't improved at all since the chuunin exam.

I wouldn't go that far... If Hinata hasn't improved at all, post-timejump Sakura would school her. But Kishimoto has said in an interview that he wants to convey the theme of hard work paying off, so Hinata (and Lee, for that matter) should be significantly stronger than she used to be when we get to see her as the focus of a fight.

balmung29
03-01-2007, 12:59 AM
Sakura because even if Hinata has the ability to cut off chakra and her new abilites whcih are not known Sakura could easily break Hinata's arms and legs.

TreeofSephri
03-01-2007, 01:00 AM
Sakura because even if Hinata has the ability to cut off chakra and her new abilites whcih are not known Sakura could easily break Hinata's arms and legs.

If you cut off Sakura chakra then you cut off her new abilities. Sakura without her mega punch and healing abilities is Preskip Sakura.

sakura"s
03-03-2007, 02:36 PM
If you cut off Sakura chakra then you cut off her new abilities. Sakura without her mega punch and healing abilities is Preskip Sakura.

Oh and how is Hinata gonna hit sakura first is hinata that much faster than Sakura huh ?

CrazyApple
03-03-2007, 02:54 PM
ima going for hinata here...^_~

first:
ima speed>strength thinker...

it is a fact that hinata in pre-skip is definitely faster than sakura...
even in post-time skip, sakura has not improved her speed at all..only her chakra concentration for her insane strength..what is teh use of her strength if she cant land a single blow on hinata?... hinata i presume is almost as fast as neji...which means that dodging the ever slowpoke sakura is a piece of cake..and one hit from hinata to sakura's chakra points, say byebye to sakura's insane strength and she is back to pre-skip sakura, except for the part where she knows medic ninjutsu..but it is possible taht hinata wont give her any chance to sakura for healing...even i wont be that stupid..^_~

Uzumaki
03-03-2007, 03:15 PM
Hinata = No Info, She Could Improved Incredible much, or nothing at all, But with the Byakugan, She Could just Avoid Sakuras Punches, and Hope for a Hit with the Jyuken towards a vital/stunning point. But If Sakura Hits Hinata... Hinata Will be used as Jelly later on in the show.. :oh

One blocked blow would equal Hinata's whole arm shattering. If not outright broken to pieces.

Neji Firmly stated Putting Chakra into Chakra Kinda Nulify the Chakra, So, they could just Nulify each other.. Kinda We Dont know the effect on Sakuras Punches tought. To many Factors labeld X at the moment.

They will fight each other till Dawn, and fall asleep. Tie

TreeofSephri
03-03-2007, 03:53 PM
Oh and how is Hinata gonna hit sakura first is hinata that much faster than Sakura huh ?


If Sakura has any hope of landing her mega punch, then she will have to get close to Hinata. Like I have said about 1000000 times, Jyuken blows never and Sakura will take damage no matter what. That damage will accumulated hampering her ability to perform and once she stumbles then Hinata closes tenketsus.

sakura"s
03-03-2007, 07:43 PM
If Sakura has any hope of landing her mega punch, then she will have to get close to Hinata. Like I have said about 1000000 times, Jyuken blows never and Sakura will take damage no matter what. That damage will accumulated hampering her ability to perform and once she stumbles then Hinata closes tenketsus.


Well if Sakura knows what hinata can do then why would she just rush in like what kind of person says that.Also sakura knows a fair bit about closing the tenkutsus and such things awhile Hinata knows zero information on her opponent.

Veil of Dreams
03-04-2007, 12:25 AM
Well if Sakura knows what hinata can do then why would she just rush in like what kind of person says that.Also sakura knows a fair bit about closing the tenkutsus and such things awhile Hinata knows zero information on her opponent.

They've both been in Konoha for the past 2.5 years, and it's not really a secret that Sakura has been training under Tsunade, nor is it a secret that Tsunade has super strength. I'm pretty sure Hinata has the intelligence to put two and two together and have an idea of what to expect.

sakura"s
03-04-2007, 02:22 PM
They've both been in Konoha for the past 2.5 years, and it's not really a secret that Sakura has been training under Tsunade, nor is it a secret that Tsunade has super strength. I'm pretty sure Hinata has the intelligence to put two and two together and have an idea of what to expect.


If hinata was training so hard then she wouldnt be caring about what the hell goes on with sakura and tsunade.Also how would Hinata know if tsunade has super strenght or not or even that sakura is her apprentice is Hinata constantly spying on sakura cause if thats the case then hinata dont train that much does she.

Anyways how would Hinata know tsunade has super strenght when she never even seen tsunade use her super human strenght.Like geez u and your damn hinata excuses like why dont u just marry the damn girl already and leave us all alone.

Neji is the best
03-04-2007, 02:42 PM
hinata she probably learned byakugans master moves

Hinata does not have a very strong kekkai genkai, also she was shonned by her father who wanted to train neji so she had to learn alot of it by herself or with neji, plus she cannot see chakra points only the coil so hitting sakura wont immediatly stop her from using chakra

Veil of Dreams
03-04-2007, 04:29 PM
If hinata was training so hard then she wouldnt be caring about what the hell goes on with sakura and tsunade.Also how would Hinata know if tsunade has super strenght or not or even that sakura is her apprentice is Hinata constantly spying on sakura cause if thats the case then hinata dont train that much does she.

It's because Sakura is the apprentice of the H.O.K.A.G.E. Every ninja from genin to jounin has to visit the Hokage on a regular basis to receive and report missions. Sakura was likely often near Tsunade, being her apprentice. Are you trying to say that over the past 2.5 years, Hinata never even once saw Sakura near Tsunade or even heard an off-hand mention of her training under the Hokage? Not even something as simple as her coming in for/from a mission, seeing the Hokage isn't there, and random chuunin X saying that the Hokage is currently busy training her apprentice Sakura?

Anyways how would Hinata know tsunade has super strenght when she never even seen tsunade use her super human strenght.Like geez u and your damn hinata excuses like why dont u just marry the damn girl already and leave us all alone.

I don't know, maybe because Tsunade is one of Konoha's LEGENDARY THREE NINJAS? Anyone who paid any attention in the academy would know of the three ninjas and what they're famous for. Hinata is neither dense and inattentive like Naruto nor lazy like Shikamaru.

I'm not making "excuses" for Hinata, or saying anything even the slightest bit unreasonable or illogical. I simply have the intelligence to effectively extrapolate, which is something you seem to lack. Severely.

Hinata does not have a very strong kekkai genkai, also she was shonned by her father who wanted to train neji so she had to learn alot of it by herself or with neji, plus she cannot see chakra points only the coil so hitting sakura wont immediatly stop her from using chakra

This is actually a very good point, though I don't think it's been clarified whether or not the strength of an individual's byakugan is fixed at birth or if it develops over time. Hinata may now be capable of seeing the opening points, but that's uncertain. Hopefully this will be clarified when Hinata finally has a battle in the manga.

sakura"s
03-04-2007, 09:56 PM
It's because Sakura is the apprentice of the H.O.K.A.G.E. Every ninja from genin to jounin has to visit the Hokage on a regular basis to receive and report missions. Sakura was likely often near Tsunade, being her apprentice. Are you trying to say that over the past 2.5 years, Hinata never even once saw Sakura near Tsunade or even heard an off-hand mention of her training under the Hokage? Not even something as simple as her coming in for/from a mission, seeing the Hokage isn't there, and random chuunin X saying that the Hokage is currently busy training her apprentice Sakura?



I don't know, maybe because Tsunade is one of Konoha's LEGENDARY THREE NINJAS? Anyone who paid any attention in the academy would know of the three ninjas and what they're famous for. Hinata is neither dense and inattentive like Naruto nor lazy like Shikamaru.

I'm not making "excuses" for Hinata, or saying anything even the slightest bit unreasonable or illogical. I simply have the intelligence to effectively extrapolate, which is something you seem to lack. Severely.



This is actually a very good point, though I don't think it's been clarified whether or not the strength of an individual's byakugan is fixed at birth or if it develops over time. Hinata may now be capable of seeing the opening points, but that's uncertain. Hopefully this will be clarified when Hinata finally has a battle in the manga.

Apprentice can mean alot of things it dont need to mean u are train under that person it can just mean u help them out.Anyways why would anybody tell Hinata about tsunade and sakura like for Hinata to know that she'd have to ask and if hinata was constantly training and minding her own business then she shouldnt have the need to ask.


Just cause tsunade if is the hokage of where Hinata lives doesnt mean she knows every detail about tsunades life and abilities.Anyways when naruto saw tsunade he barely even knew who she was so why would any of the other rookies.Anyways I will finish this post later cause I am tired hope u dont mind.

basye
03-04-2007, 09:57 PM
im going with sakura