Should Departed have won?

[narutosimpson]

Departed is a remake of a chinese movie that isn't even a few years old. If it wins awards they should go to the chinese people, since they made that movie the hit.

Do people still get awards for performing Shakespeare and stuff like that? Even then at least shakespeare is hundreds of years old and nobody knows what those performances were like.

:P

[Potentialflip]

Well Marty as well as that guy that won adaptation did credit the Chinese film (Infernal Affairs orig. rel. 2002) in their acceptance speeches.

[narutosimpson]

not exactly, my understanding was that while scorcese credited the chinese film, the other award speech credited the chinese film as being "japanese". haha, I wonder how many chinese were flipping out about that :laugh

[Gooba]

Yea, it should have won. More goes into making a movie great than just the overall plot and all that deserves recognition.

[tank!]

Well, its like the whole Yojimbo/Sanjuro - Dollars Trilogy thing....films still have merit even if they're 'remakes' in a different setting. I mean, if you re-make Shakespeare but set it in outer space, wouldn't that count as essentially a different film? Movies are always re-working, re-making, tributing everything else.

But i think the reason why the Departed won was everyone wanted to give Scorsese an Oscar for things like Taxi Driver and Raging Bull.

Personally I was impressed by the acting in Departed though. And the constant swearing :laugh

[Hell On Earth]

This man deserves it, he fucking put Dinero on the map with Taxi Driver.

[Sky is Over]

IMO, it should've gotten an award (very surprised it didn't).

[Potentialflip]

not exactly, my understanding was that while scorcese credited the chinese film, the other award speech credited the chinese film as being "japanese". haha, I wonder how many chinese were flipping out about that :laugh

No, both credited the chinese. It was the PA guy who said the film was japanese. I don't remember what the producer said (the one who accepted for Best Picture). But I'm sure the only time japanese came on air was from the PA guy.

[The Internet]

IMO, it should've gotten an award (very surprised it didn't).

...It won picture of the year.


And it damn well deserved it. The acting was top notch, the writing was beutifully done, and overall it was a bloody phenomoral film. And if he never even said it was a remake, no one would have known for the most part.

I mean honestly, all of you saying the departed didn't deserve to win are just pissed because the movie you wanted to win didn't win and are crying due to it being a remake.

get over it.

[Lucid]

It definitely deserved to win. Pretty much every movie nowadays is a remake of something else, this just so happened to be a phenomenal remake.

Just because they took the story from the chinese film doesn't mean that the chinese film made this movie good. If it was put in the hands of someone less capable then scorsese it could have easily turned out really bad.

Departed is also significantly better then infernal affairs anyway.

[sj2k]

It certainly deserved to win. The best film of the year. That is what you usually give the award for best film to, the actual best film. Which was the departed.

[conceptz]

Sadly, I haven't seen The Departed yet. Will see it soon as soon as exams are done and I'm expecting a lot seeing how the IA film (and it's sequels somewhat) rocked.

Just saw the Oscar presentation on youtube and I must say the announcer and/or the script writer are idiots.

[Zissou]

Well since I'm way behind on the releases I doubt I could do the question justice but then again it was a great movie.

Departed is also significantly better then infernal affairs anyway.

I'll have to disagree with you there. In my opinion, the character development is alot better in infernal afffairs and Tony Leung is definitely better acting out his role. But then again we all have our different views ^_-

Not to mention that Kelly Chen is hawter than Vera Farmiga ;>

[erictheking]

The award was a result of the Academy Award's guilt for not giving him one for Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Goodfellas. The Departed was an excellent movie though, and probably deserved the award anyway.

I actually preferred Infernal Affairs, but a lot of credit is deserved to everyone involved in The Departed.

[Spanish Hoffkage]

The departed is a good movie but its not probably even in the top 10 movies of Scorsese. But since it was a sacrilege that director never won an Oscar, well, they chosed to give it for that.

I personally think Babel and specially Letters from Iwo Jima are better movies. Eastwood's one was hard to be a winner since he already has two best picture winners (Mystic river could be the third if Return of the King wasnt that year) so Babel was my option. Better movie IMO, with a deepier and more important message.

[narutosimpson]

^ u should really support pan's labyrinth, it's a spanish movie and it's excellent...best movie i saw this year.

[Instant Karma]

Yeah.. i think it did.

Overall as a whole it was a good movie with good elemnts and acting.

And really, it was about damn time they gave Marty something.

Good Fellas is better though. :wink

[narutosimpson]

fuck marty, who cares if he deserved to win b4, now who's gonna award the makers of labyrinth, or babel, or whatever else got the shaft this year. THat kind of thinking is stupid. Not every sports legend has a ring, nobodies gonna retroactively give them one either. ughh :(

[Instant Karma]

fuck marty, who cares if he deserved to win b4, now who's gonna award the makers of labyrinth, or babel, or whatever else got the shaft this year. THat kind of thinking is stupid. Not every sports legend has a ring, nobodies gonna retroactively give them one either. ughh :(

I get what you're saying, but it wasn't a shit movie either and Scorsese hasn't been an overall shit director if you check his history. Mind you, i'm not a big huge fan. Personally though, imo, I could care less about Pans Labrinth and whatever others those were. Though Babel i did like and i agree was equally deserving.

True, some shit is unfair, but guess what, thats the way they roll in Hollywood. And it ain't gonna change. They'd give it to a veteran whose made at least 15 classic movies and has never been awarded first before a noob. The dude will proably retire soon. So he won, thats it. He had his glory. Pans Labyrinth director guy and the Babel director guy will have more years to prove themselves and win all they want. Eitherway, most times those Academy jerks just like the popular vote, but most importantly whatever will make the ideal story to remember.

[fabio]

"maybe maybe not maybe go fuck yourself"

[Spanish Hoffkage]

^ u should really support pan's labyrinth, it's a spanish movie and it's excellent...best movie i saw this year.

El laberinto del fauno (original name, biatches :mad) was the best movie nominated in the Oscar along with Letters from Iwo Jima.

I heard the german movie who won best foreign language film is also very good. I will see it some day of those. :plot

[Hell On Earth]

I don't think Scorsese is going to retire anytime soon.

[Spanish Hoffkage]

I don't think Scorsese is going to retire anytime soon.

He has a lot of projects. He still has quite a time to make movies.

That portuguese guy, Manoel de Oliveira, is still making movies an he is almost 100 years old. >___<

[Sakura]

Bah.

The movies were all really good, so it was a tough choice, I guess.

[Spanish Hoffkage]

Bah.

The movies were all really good, so it was a tough choice, I guess.

I watched the last 12 or 13 Oscar ceremonies and that was by far the most difficult one to guess the winner. Except for The Queen (good movie but nearly impossible to win) the other four movies could have win perfectly.

[Efraim Longstocking]

The Departed isn't even in the top 5 of Scorcese. And it's not in the to 10 of Jack Nicholsons acting performances. However, I loved his baldness in the Oscars :)

[narutorulez]

I havent seen the Departed yet and it may be great but this is Oscar and they aew often retarded and give the most popular films the awards, just look at all the LOTR movies. I would rather give the original film the award. that would be better even if The Departed is great. but thats just mine opinion

[Insomnia]

Well I just saw The Departed today, and it was pretty good. Not as good as a lot of Scorsese's other stuff, but good nonetheless. I think it was right that he won, I mean they shafted him enough times. This time they just shaft someone else, it happens all the time in Hollywood, especially in the Oscars.

Just a few years ago when Return of the King got all those Oscars, it was basically because they kind of got shafted for the first two Lord of the Rings movies, so they were kind of crediting the entire Trilogy, not just Return of the King.

I haven't seen Internal Affairs, though. But now that I've seen The Departed I'll check out IA to see which version I like more.