Deidara prediction

[Zarigani]

Well, since it seems that many dislike Deidara, I will post my thoughts on him.
I only watch the anime, so I don't know anything about him other than the little we have seen of him in the first episodes.

I believe Deidara is at the same level as Itachi, if not slightly above. And I see Itachi as one of the stronger Akatsuki members. I don't believe Deidara is the strongest, but among the top 4. I'm not going to take it futher, as only a few Akatsuki members have been revealed in the anime.

The abilities we saw in Shippuuden episode 3 were only the start. I'm certain Deidara will shock all you anime-only who don't believe in him.
Well, I think he will kick ass in the next episodes, and then I will laugh at you.

Just you wait and see.

[Uchiha Amik]

i think you are correct... he will kick ass...

but i think it is premature to say he is stronger than itachi...

i find it difficult to believe that anyone ... unless they are the absolute strongest...

could be completely invulnerable to the Mangekyou Sharingan...

[Denizen]

Well, since it seems that many dislike Deidara,

You're sooo wrong. Actually, now that the anime is out, I like him more. Dunno why.

[Dream Brother]

Same level as Itachi?

Now that would REALLY surprise me. I haven't read the manga, so I'm guessing Itachi is the second strongest in Akatsuki - the strongest being the leader.

[Skoemie]

I don't realy think Akatsuki has real power level's within theyr ranks only the AL stands high above... every member is suposed to be a kage level shinobi with theyr own strenghts and weaknes Let's say I can beat Itachi - Itachi beats Sasori and Sasori beats me... one can never tell

[Woofie]

I don't hate Deidara by any means, but I definitely doubt he's stronger than Itachi. Mostly because Itachi actually has a rather important role in the series - he's the final opponent of one of second most important character in the series. :P Which should make him the second strongest villain in theory. Top 3, anyway.

All Akatsuki members should be pretty damn powerful though. :amuse

[deidarox]

well itachi was revealed a long time ago, since this is the start of grown up naruto...maybe Deidara is like the new Itachi?? :D

i don't think itachi could fight off deidara who is like a bomber plane

[Lastier]

Deidara has a huge fanbase. Just look at the fanclubs forum. There are many FCs dedicated to him. But there are also many people who dislike him, because of the rabid fanboys he has which like to overhype him and which are more interested in pairing Deidara than the character himself.

You will soon see what he is capable of, but you shouldnt make an assumption yet, like he is stronger than Itachi, because you really havent seen an Akatsuki gone all out yet as an Anime only watcher.

[Geg]

For those of you who aren't manga readers, Deidara is the most popular member of Akatsuki in Japan, or at least he was a year ago. In the most recent popularity poll Shounen Jump did, Deidara got 3rd place - higher than Naruto, who was only 4th in this one.

[Zarigani]

I haven't read the manga, so I'm guessing Itachi is the second strongest in Akatsuki - the strongest being the leader.

Not that would really suprise me. Even though we have not seen every Akatsuki members, it seems quite crazy that Itachi is the second strongest.
Just think about it; Jiraiya said that Naruto would someday fight people stronger than Orochimaru. I know it's slim, but that's the main reason why I believe there are a at least few Akatsuki members stronger than Itachi. I don't believe Jiraiya was thinking of Itachi when he said that.

But it's a good thing we have different opinions.

This got a little off -topic, kedo, I have a feeling than some of you have to high thoughts about Itachi. Anyway, yeah, we still have not seen an Akatsuki go all out.

[Loki]

nop thats not like that he abute naruto lvl ....maybe a bit more.
Its just that thay're making it now soo evryone will think wow akatsuki own.

(Oh man asking the same questons we had when this chap was out..)

[Hell On Earth]

We all know what happens when he faces Gaara, well at least the people that read the manga. Deidara stronger than Itachi? Ahahahaha LOL that was a good one.Deidara is no for match Itachi, there's not many Shinobi that can pair up with Itachi to be honest. You anime watchers you need to seriously read the manga, what have y'all been doing? watching the fillers LOL.

[deidarox]

We all know what happens when he faces Gaara, well at least the people that read the manga. Deidara stronger than Itachi? Ahahahaha LOL that was a good one.Deidara is no for match Itachi, there's not many Shinobi that can pair up with Itachi to be honest. You anime watchers you need to seriously read the manga, what have y'all been doing? watching the fillers LOL.


why is deidara no match for itachi?? just because you read the manga doesn't mean you know :oh

itachi and kisame ran away from 3 jounins, and deidara is going up against the sand's kazekage!!!! who's gaara!

since deidara was just introduced, i bet he beats gaara like a fly. :D

[Continuity]

For those of you who aren't manga readers, Deidara is the most popular member of Akatsuki in Japan, or at least he was a year ago. In the most recent popularity poll Shounen Jump did, Deidara got 3rd place - higher than Naruto, who was only 4th in this one.

Yep... I feel bad for Naruto though, he didn't even get top 3 in his own manga. :(

Deidara is awesome. As for the thread starter, what's your opinion on Sasori so far?

[Taffer]

Well i'm really looking forward to seeing some more of his 'artistic skills'.

[Milo-]

We all know what happens when he faces Gaara, well at least the people that read the manga. Deidara stronger than Itachi? Ahahahaha LOL that was a good one.Deidara is no for match Itachi, there's not many Shinobi that can pair up with Itachi to be honest. You anime watchers you need to seriously read the manga, what have y'all been doing? watching the fillers LOL.

Put your spoilers in your butt and stop giving away manga info.

[Nock]

I don't read the manga either but I expect Deidara to be about Kakashi's level. He also called Sasori "Master" implying Sasori is indeed stronger than himself.

I think Orochimaru and Itachi will be the end villains (As Itachi is Sasuke's ultimate goal, Kishi wouldn't make it easy, would he?)

[Hell On Earth]

Put your spoilers in your butt and stop giving away manga info.

What info you idiot, I didn't leak anything. I just said that we all(manga readers)know what happens. I didn't give away any details or nothing about the upcoming battle. Just your facts straight.

[Continuity]

I don't read the manga either but I expect Deidara to be about Kakashi's level. He also called Sasori "Master" implying Sasori is indeed stronger than himself.

I think Orochimaru and Itachi will be the end villains (As Itachi is Sasuke's ultimate goal, Kishi wouldn't make it easy, would he?)

Calling Sasori that can also be referencing seniority, and not necessarily strength. For example, if Sasori was older and joined Akatsuki before Deidara did, that could be a reason he said that besides strength.

[deidarox]

We are finally getting introduced to akatsuki and they are suppose to be the new villains in the show. Orochimaru and Itachi are probably just one of the many side stories in the show...or else part 2 will be exactly the same as part 1.

I still don't know how Itachi can stop a bird bomb coming his way...

[Hell On Earth]

Honestly, we still haven't seen Itachi's true strength throught the anime/manga only little glimpses.

[Uchiha Amik]

Just think about it; Jiraiya said that Naruto would someday fight people stronger than Orochimaru. I know it's slim, but that's the main reason why I believe there are a at least few Akatsuki members stronger than Itachi. I don't believe Jiraiya was thinking of Itachi when he said that.


Now wait a second... Orochimaru is not stronger than Itachi...

he says so himself... the reason he left Akatsuki is because Itachi was stronger than him...

Now... given that fact... it seems that either...

A: The only reason he was in Akatsuki.... was so he could get Itachi's body and get the Sharingan...

or...

B: The resaon he left Akatsuki was because he was the strongest member until he realized that Itachi was stronger...

if "B" holds true... than Itachi would be te strongest Akatsuki member.


Itachi also became stronger than Orochimaru as soon as he developed Mangeykou Sharingan.... so .... Itachi has been stronger than Orochimaru since the age of 11 i believe.

[Zarigani]

As for the thread starter, what's your opinion on Sasori so far?

I guess since Deidara have so much respect for him, he must be insane strong, like Buu in DBZ. They're both fat and ugly.smile-big

Maybe Sasori isn't in his original form, just like Buu were at the beginning.:) Sasori probably fused together with a ugly and old female shinobi or something.
He need to remember his old self, and then he really kick ass.

Now wait a second... Orochimaru is not stronger than Itachi...

You misunderstood. I believe that Jiraiya said that there are stronger people than Orochimaru and Itachi. I agree with you that Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru.

[Uchiha Amik]

oh i got you... i thought you meant just orochimaru. my bad.

but i do think imo Jiraiya was speaking of just orochimaru... but whatever... the more we learn of Akatsuki.. the more we'll know and then we'll be able to make better judgements...

but you have to admit... it's tough to think that Itachi is not one of the strongest members of all... at least top 2 or 3

also... i cant wait to be able to talk about sasori and diedara (and all other akatsuki) more... we cant now b/c of spoiler rules.

[Fighting Spirit]

Well, since it seems that many dislike Deidara, I will post my thoughts on him.
I only watch the anime, so I don't know anything about him other than the little we have seen of him in the first episodes.

I believe Deidara is at the same level as Itachi, if not slightly above. And I see Itachi as one of the stronger Akatsuki members. I don't believe Deidara is the strongest, but among the top 4. I'm not going to take it futher, as only a few Akatsuki members have been revealed in the anime.

The abilities we saw in Shippuuden episode 3 were only the start. I'm certain Deidara will shock all you anime-only who don't believe in him.
Well, I think he will kick ass in the next episodes, and then I will laugh at you.

Just you wait and see.

I don't give a f*** about him kicking ass, I still think his hand+ability is stupid.

[Nock]

Each to their own, I guess. His hand ability is one of my main reasons for liking him.

[deidarox]

I don't give a f*** about him kicking ass, I still think his hand+ability is stupid.


I think a lot of the techniques in Naruto are stupid, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying the show or characters, stop trolling Deidara!



Also...if Itachi knew fire jutsu and Kisame knew water jutsu....what do Deidara/Sasori know?

is Sasori's jutsu kind of the opposite of Deidara's? clay and ...? o_O I was thinking Sasori was a doton user...but isn't deidara's headband rock...

[NarSakSasKak]

Stupid guess...so far. All that we've seen Deidara do is make some stupid exploding clay figures, like Itachi is going to get caught in that shit.

I think that Itachi is top 3 strongest Shinobi ever. That bad ass mother fucka has the most powerful moves, that and he's fast as hell.

[Hell On Earth]

I guess since Deidara have so much respect for him, he must be insane strong, like Buu in DBZ. They're both fat and ugly.

Maybe Sasori isn't in his original form, just like Buu were at the beginning. Sasori probably fused together with a ugly and old female shinobi or something.
He need to remember his old self, and then he really kick ass.

You're so clueless....:laugh You won't be when you keep watching the show.

[deidarox]

^Just because Itachi has sharingan doesn't mean he's invulnerable to Deidara's attacks. All Deidara would need to do is sneak something on him when he is distracted and blow his limb off.

[Hell On Earth]

You don't understand, Itachi's speed is remarkable. His sharingan is on a different level.

[Nock]

I think people are overestimating Deidara. I think Deidara is like Zabuza, a "silent killing" character that only excells in his profession. In hand-to-hand combat I think he would lose. He doesn't look like a Genjutsu type either.

Itachi was supposed to be a genius. One of his Mangekyo Sharingan effects traps the user in a powerful Genjutsu that implies he must be skilled in it. The way he handled Kurenai easily in taijutsu implies he can stand his ground in that too.

[Uchiha Amik]

i think diedara could hurt itachi...

but his Mangekyou is too powerful...

the only thing that can withstand it is... another Mangekyou user...

i guess diedara could just never look into itachi's eyes....

but itachi is not limited to just sharingan...

i think any akatsuki vs any akatsuki would be an interesting fight....

anime only people will be in awe i think as soon as stuff begins to come out...

or may be not.... we'll see...

[Undercovermc]

From what we've seen so far in the anime Itachi appears to be stronger than Deidara. I prefer him as a character also because of his attitude and the manner in which he dealt with the Konoha Jounin. On topic, we'll learn a lot more about Deidara's abilities and character exposition in the fight with Gaara and he must be strong if he was designated the task of battling/capturing the Kazekage.

[deidarox]

if sharingan was so powerful, itachi would not be able to murder his clan or wouldn't be in an organization if he could do what he wants himself.

I think you're overrating Itachi just because he has a more deadly atmosphere with Sasuke's past. Deidara can just fly on one of his birds and use explosions to disrupt Itachi.

[NarSakSasKak]

if sharingan was so powerful, itachi would not be able to murder his clan or wouldn't be in an organization if he could do what he wants himself.

I think you're overrating Itachi just because he has a more deadly atmosphere with Sasuke's past. Deidara can just fly on one of his birds and use explosions to disrupt Itachi.

....What? Can you not read the posts? Itachi's speed is remarkable. He can probably outrun Diedara's clay. That and his sharigan is more than enough to see past Diedara's tricks.

[deidarox]

^Oh please. Explosions are going to hinder his sight and allow Deidara to get him either way. Sharingan users are not invincible. As long as Deidara is on a bird, Itachi is screwed.


But then again, all Itachi has ever done is run away...

[Shinji]

wait till you see Sasori

[Uchiha Amik]

ok... lets make one important distinction here...

Uchiha Itachi does not have Sharingan...

He has Mangekyou Sharingan.

Whole different ball game. It can be argued that the Mangekyou is as different from regular Sharingan as regular Sharingan is different from Byakugan.

According to Itachi....We know that Sauske and one other person are capable of achieving it...

But the fact is.... only 2 Shinobi in the history of narutokind have EVER been able to attain it...

that alone puts Itachi on another level.

I cant wait for the anime to catch up to the manga (well, minus fillers... you all know what i mean)... b/c so far... Itachi has not even been challenged... or tested... he has only played games with people b/c he is on a completely different level... he has no need to even try.

Consider kakashi thought he could not defeat Kabuto in his current state back during chunnin Exams...

I would say that Kabuto vs. Itachi would be no contest.

I would say Kimmimaro in his prime vs. Itachi would be no contest.

We know Orochimaru would get defeated by Itachi.

Diedara vs. Itachi would be a good fight... but i dont think that simply flying around would help him....

remember in the world of Naruto.... there are people who can defeat long-distance type shinobi like Diedara....

Take Temari for instance...

Since birds have wings... couldnt Temari just blow diedara away?

I mean she deflected sound with her wind techinique, something that doesnt even have a physical structure... she can attack and defend at that same time.

but i think we all agree that Itachi would utterly destroy Temari.

[Vegitto-kun]

ok... lets make one important distinction here...

Uchiha Itachi does not have Sharingan...

He has Mangekyou Sharingan.

Whole different ball game. It can be argued that the Mangekyou is as different from regular Sharingan as regular Sharingan is different from Byakugan.

According to Itachi....We know that Sauske and one other person are capable of achieving it...

But the fact is.... only 2 Shinobi in the history of narutokind have EVER been able to attain it...

that alone puts Itachi on another level.

I cant wait for the anime to catch up and show us everything.

....

mangekyou sharingan is not a different sharingan, its just a upgrade you can turn off and on

[deidarox]

ok... lets make one important distinction here...

Uchiha Itachi does not have Sharingan...

He has Mangekyou Sharingan.

Whole different ball game. It can be argued that the Mangekyou is as different from regular Sharingan as regular Sharingan is different from Byakugan.

According to Itachi....We know that Sauske and one other person are capable of achieving it...

But the fact is.... only 2 Shinobi in the history of narutokind have EVER been able to attain it...

that alone puts Itachi on another level.

I cant wait for the anime to catch up and show us everything.


Perhaps a whole new level if he was fighting another sharingan user...like say, Kakashi?

Stop acting like Itachi's sharingan/mangekyou sharingan makes him the strongest person in the naruto universe. Sasori and Deidara should be around his level if they belong in the same group, and everyone has their own weakness and strength. So this whole thread is probably meaningless, but I feel if Deidara and Itachi were to fight, Deidara would win with enough clay.

[Excalibur]

I seriously don't like where this thread is going....:oh

if you want to debate who is the strongest member of akatsuki, do so in one of the battledomes in house of uzumaki.

now back on the actual topic of liking deidara and later predictions:

deidara is a very interesting character and he complements Sasori in their beliefs of "art"....

he has many awesome moments that are coming really soon, but to judge his character now is a bit premature...all he has done is use exploding spiders...wait until the actual fight occurs

As much as I like Deidara, I actually like Sasori more....he is still my favorite member of akatsuki even though the manga has introduced other members.

[Uchiha Amik]

i say clay versus jutsu where the user doesnt even need to move...

user who doesnt even need to move wins.

who knows ... maybe they will fight... and then we'll all know!

[deidarox]

deidara is a very interesting character and he complements Sasori in their beliefs of "art"....

...all he has done is use exploding spiders....


Hey, in the preview it showed exploding birds thingies too!

Sasori is an artist? :laugh Doesn't seem like the type.

[Uchiha Amik]

....

mangekyou sharingan is not a different sharingan, its just a upgrade you can turn off and on

oh no... i'm not saying that it is a different kekkai genkai... just that it is completely diff from regular sharingan....

remember... the only thing that can fight a Mangeykou user... according to Itachi... is that same level of Mangeykou sharingan.

so it can be argued that regular Sharingan is not equal to Mangeykou... obviously.

[Excalibur]

Hey, in the preview it showed exploding birds thingies too!

Sasori is an artist? :laugh Doesn't seem like the type.

if you really want to know the connection of "artistry"...I'd be happy to PM you with those spoilers...:amuse

[Svenjamin]

Well consider this... if you think that Deidara is around Itachi's level... then why does he call his partner 'Master'??? How strong must his partner be???

EDIT: OOOOps just read BH's post... ummm.. DEIDARA ROCKS MY SOCKS!

Next episode should be sweeeeet as... if the animation is fluid, and there is plenty of fillery action, Deidara will probably move up 1 rank on my list of favourite characters, hm!

[deidarox]

I hope Deidara has one of those fights that look really cool...like episode 133...

[Uchiha Amik]

i cant imagine the diedara gaara fight not being awsome.

I am a bit worried about this whole Korean Art Director thing though...

is it anything we should really be worried about?

[Katon_Chidori]

I would believe that Deidara would probably put up a good fight against gaara, but then leave because he wouldnt want to scratch that pretty face of his. :p
Also, didnt they mention in part one something about Orochimaru leaving the Akatsuki and now he is one of their targets?

Sry to be a lil off topic lol but I wasnt sure if Oro was still in Akatsuki

[Undercovermc]

Didnt they mention in part one something about Orochimaru leaving the Akatsuki and now he is one of their targets?

Sry to be a lil off topic lol but I wasnt sure if Oro was still in Akatsuki
Correct, Orochimaru is no longer a member of Akatsuki.

[Continuity]

Didnt they mention in part one something about Orochimaru leaving the Akatsuki and now he is one of their targets?

Sry to be a lil off topic lol but I wasnt sure if Oro was still in Akatsuki

Akatsuki was a group originally consisting of 10 members, but ever since Orochimaru left, they are now 9 members.

At the end of part 1, they did mention that they would deal with Orochimaru eventually, but he doesn't seem to be high on their target list.

[Hell On Earth]

He looks like he's a metrosexual.

[MasamuneX7]

Akatsuki was a group originally consisting of 10 members, but ever since Orochimaru left, they are now 9 members.

At the end of part 1, they did mention that they would deal with Orochimaru eventually, but he doesn't seem to be high on their target list.

If you're counting all past and present members of Akatsuki, the number would be 11.

On the subject of "artists":

Sasori is a very different type of artist than Deidara. He is indeed the stronger one just as Itachi is stronger than Kisame. The Fire-Water relationship between Itachi and Kisame is shared by Sasori and Deidara, but it is not so straightforward as Clay and ___. Rather, they are opposites in a different aspect. This extends to the next duo of Akatsuki members too, though abilities start getting weirder once you start moving onto the members that are from villages we are not so familiar with (every member with the exception of Orochimaru and Itachi is from a different village).

Kishimoto has done a great job with creating Akatsuki, as they are all so different and uniquely designed. To anime-only watchers, you've only seen the tip of the iceberg. Here's a hint at what's to come: each member has a gimmick, some attribute that makes them really cheap and difficult to fight against. With Itachi, it's the Mangekyou Sharingan, where an exchange of eyesight can kill, by both physical and mental means. With Kisame, it's Samehada, a sentient sword that can drain chakra and move on its own. With Deidara, it's Kibaku Nendo, explosive clay that can be shaped into animal familiars for any situation, such as flight. For Sasori, you'll find out... he's a bitch for anyone to fight.

[Hell On Earth]

Sasori is cool....

[Uchiha Amik]

agreed... i think sasori would be one of the most annoying shinobi to fight against... regardless of anything...

in fact....
no spoilers...even in tags....>__< ~TBH


this is so great... that we are all actually talking about "real" naruto events.... instead of filler events.

[cinosweiv]

I did not like him either at first in Manga, but he is quite a cool, interesting character. But still not one of my fave Akatsuki though.

[KentaLjung]

wait till you see Sasori

I agree, people here think itachi is badass...wait till you see sasori, thats one raw motherfucka for sure

[Zarigani]

As I have posted before, some of you seem to have to high thoughts about Itachi. He's not invisible. Remember Vegeta when he became a SSJ? The android ran away because Vegeta gave the impression that he wasn't tired at all. But the truth is that he was all out of energy.

When someone give their all, they are bound to run out of energy quite fast.

As the next episodes unfold, I'm confident we will see that Deidaras' abilities is around the same level as Itachi's.

[Yondaime Hokage]

i think you are correct... he will kick ass...

but i think it is premature to say he is stronger than itachi...

i find it difficult to believe that anyone ... unless they are the absolute strongest...

could be completely invulnerable to the Mangekyou Sharingan...

Seconded. I agree.

[M E L O D Y]

Well I read the manga and Deidara is known for being the SMARTEST Akatsuki. He's like the smartest naruto character, added that with his strength he can get out of just about anything. He's a genuis ^^ you guys will all see soon =D

[MasamuneX7]

To clear things up without spoiling too much:

No, Deidara is not one of the strongest. The one who has the quickest wits? Yes. Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru. This was stated in Part 1. It is stated yet again in Part 2. The gap between them may be bigger than we thought previously. I would say this means he is one of the strongest Akatsuki members. Yes, Sasori is indeed stronger than Deidara, not just older and more experienced. You will see why and how, and an official statement from Deidara himself when you get to a certain point later on. Every Akatsuki team has a stronger and a weaker member.

As for certain members here whom I will not name, please stop acting like you're anime-only and saying this and that "might" happen. You know it already, you're not guessing.

[starmandeluxe]

I know this is an older post but I wanted to reply to it anyway.

ok... lets make one important distinction here...

Uchiha Itachi does not have Sharingan...

He has Mangekyou Sharingan.

Whole different ball game. It can be argued that the Mangekyou is as different from regular Sharingan as regular Sharingan is different from Byakugan.

According to Itachi....We know that Sauske and one other person are capable of achieving it...

But the fact is.... only 2 Shinobi in the history of narutokind have EVER been able to attain it...

that alone puts Itachi on another level.

I cant wait for the anime to catch up to the manga (well, minus fillers... you all know what i mean)... b/c so far... Itachi has not even been challenged... or tested... he has only played games with people b/c he is on a completely different level... he has no need to even try.

Consider kakashi thought he could not defeat Kabuto in his current state back during chunnin Exams...

I would say that Kabuto vs. Itachi would be no contest.

I would say Kimmimaro in his prime vs. Itachi would be no contest.

We know Orochimaru would get defeated by Itachi.

Diedara vs. Itachi would be a good fight... but i dont think that simply flying around would help him....

remember in the world of Naruto.... there are people who can defeat long-distance type shinobi like Diedara....

Take Temari for instance...

Since birds have wings... couldnt Temari just blow diedara away?

I mean she deflected sound with her wind techinique, something that doesnt even have a physical structure... she can attack and defend at that same time.

but i think we all agree that Itachi would utterly destroy Temari.

I feel like....you have...an uncontrollage ...urge....to hit the period key...unnecessarily...all too often...

1) The Mangekyou Sharingan is, as stated above, not different from the Sharingan. It's analogous to an "upgrade," type deal. And he can use it or deactivate it as he pleases.

2) We -don't- know that only 2 Uchihas have ever attained it. All we know is it's baller hard to get, and allegedly three people are capable of having it in the current time.

3) We know -nothing- of Kabuto, seriously. IMO, and this is all my own anime-based theory, I feel like Kabuto is pulling the strings on the whole ordeal. I have no concrete evidence other than a few here and there snippets; regardless, we don't know Kabuto's true strength. Who's to say he hasn't been hiding it from Orochimaru? We don't know his purposes, all we know is that he's strong and a cunning deceiver.

4) Temari would wreck Itachi. All she'd have to do is summon her all-purpose ferret.

and uh

Tachi-kun..Are you dumb? Why would you state that not only did you read the manga, but gave out information about it too? Of course we will see, we are watching the f*cking anime; what we don't need is knowing what's going to come.

[Zarigani]

I can't wait to see the next episode. Then we will all hopefully witness when Deidara get's serious.

[HisshouBuraiKen]

I predict that you will all think Deidara and Sasori are both awesome.

[MitsukiShiroi]

Deidara is strong, but as another posted said, it's too early to proclaim Deidara stronger than Itachi. Manga readers will someway know about what I'm talking about. XD

And no, he doesn't die >_> For the people who were worried about my post.

[Danny]

kinda screwed up the tags there

[IronFist Alchemist]

Sasori/Deidara are my favorite Akatsuki duo....ooo, I can't wait until later on! :amuse

[Insomnium]

I still don't know how Itachi can stop a bird bomb coming his way...

lol... he dosn't need to stop it when he can outrun it! ::laugh

[FrostXian]

Deidara is currently, officialy more popular than Naruto. It was in the manga..
Well I read the manga and Deidara is known for being the SMARTEST Akatsuki. He's like the smartest naruto character, added that with his strength he can get out of just about anything. He's a genuis ^^ you guys will all see soon =D

Itachi is smarter, and the Akatsuki Leader is obviously the most intelligent one, or is strong enough to arm wrestle released Kyuubi.

[adam5aby]

for some reason i believe itachi would destroy deidara..just because he's that more intense...plus it seems like deidara has to stall a lot to make his little creations, itachi would just freakin hypnotize him and pants him in 3 seconds flat

[uchiha_sasuke9]

Now I dont want to offend anyone or make it seem like Im tryin to start a argument, but Deidara IMO is the most worthless Akatsuki character we have been introduced to thus far. I dont understand at all how he could be more popular than Naruto himself, and I have no idea how Deidara could ever possibly beat Itachi. Ok so Deidara is smart and uses explosive clay animals which is not really all that impressive. Seems to me that Deidara is a step above Shikamaru using kunai with exploding tags. Saying anyone could go head to head with Itachi is a bold statement in itself. Now the AL may be able to but no one knows because we have no idea what he can do. The only other person I see that can probably go dead even with Itachi is the Fourth. Itachi is not normal in any sense of the word and is a genius among geniuses. Plus we have not even seen his full capabilities as of yet...all we know is that he wiped out his whole genius clan when he was a kid.

but then again Im probably biased lolololol

[Uchiha Amik]

I know this is an older post but I wanted to reply to it anyway.



I feel like....you have...an uncontrollage ...urge....to hit the period key...unnecessarily...all too often...

1) The Mangekyou Sharingan is, as stated above, not different from the Sharingan. It's analogous to an "upgrade," type deal. And he can use it or deactivate it as he pleases.

2) We -don't- know that only 2 Uchihas have ever attained it. All we know is it's baller hard to get, and allegedly three people are capable of having it in the current time.

3) We know -nothing- of Kabuto, seriously. IMO, and this is all my own anime-based theory, I feel like Kabuto is pulling the strings on the whole ordeal. I have no concrete evidence other than a few here and there snippets; regardless, we don't know Kabuto's true strength. Who's to say he hasn't been hiding it from Orochimaru? We don't know his purposes, all we know is that he's strong and a cunning deceiver.

4) Temari would wreck Itachi. All she'd have to do is summon her all-purpose ferret.

and uh

Tachi-kun..Are you dumb? Why would you state that not only did you read the manga, but gave out information about it too? Of course we will see, we are watching the f*cking anime; what we don't need is knowing what's going to come.


OK, first and foremost... i's sorry about the ellipsis thing... i... as you can see.... cannot help it.... LOL

But to clarify somethings... I'm not saying the Mangeykou Shagingan is a different eye techinque, but that it is as differnet from regular sharingan as can be.

A regular sharingan user is no match whatsoever for a Mangeykou Sharingan user. Itachi says so himself... and Sasuske knows from reading the scroll in the secret Uchiha meeting place.

The only thing that can match up equally, or that can fight itachi's Mangeykou Sharingan is none other than another Sharingan user.

So in that respect, regular Sharingan is essentially worthless against Mangeykou Sharingan.

I know you can turn it off and on... but it is not regular shringan... it is completely different...

none of the jutsu that can be accomplished with Mangeykou Sharingan... are even possible with normal sharingan.

AS for the number of people capable of attaining it... you are right... i misspoke. We really dont know, there could have been 50 Uchiha in the past who had it, but all we really know is that there are three people who are capable of achieveing it at this time.

Kabuto - the reason i wrote what i did about Kabuto is b/c Kakashi says he cannot defeat Kabuto in his current state. You may be right about Kabuto as well. Now that there has been a time skip... we dont know how much Kabuto has improved if any... and we havent seen Kakashi's true abilites yet either.

Lets keep in mind that Kabuto feared Sauske's chakra, and that was no act. He was genuinley scared by Sauske's chakra.

But Orichimaru was not... he basically got an orgasm from sensing it.

I would lean towards Orichimaru being able to kill Kabuto at any time if he wished.

But it will be interesting to see what happens.

Temari and Itachi... ha ha... you are joking i know... very funny.

And lastly, I know nothing of Tachi-Kun...

Tachi-Kun and I, we do not roll together.

[NarSakSasKak]

Blah blah blah. I haven't read the manga yet and from what I am seeing out of Diedara so far, he blows.

[Uchiha Amik]

Also, lets all wait and see how opinions change after a few more episodes of Anime. The Anime only people have not had a fair chance to assess everyone, which is one of the reasons this thread exists.

diedara may be the strongest shinobi ever, may be not... maybe kakashi is... or Kabuto, or anyone... maybe Itachi is a huge pussy... maybe aliens come and give Naruto an implant that allows him to shoot poison bees out of his eyes that can track diedaras bombs and parasitically infect them and reverse them back onto the user... utterly destroying Diedara... only for us to all find out that he is actually orichimaru... but a robot version of him... designed by Microsoft.

I think the next few episodes will being to put everyone on the same page.

I am sure when the Manga was first released, people had this same argument going on.... but now manga people have a better grip on things... as will the anime people soon enough.

[Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki]

plus it seems like deidara has to stall a lot to make his little creations

He doesn't have to stall at all in the manga.

First of all, you might not have noticed it but he comes into battle with a few sculptures prepared in advance. In addition to this, Deidara is FAST. Like... Ridiculously fast.

It doesn't take much time at all to create the clay sculptures either. At most a few seconds. The whole stalling thing at the beginning of this battle was added by the anime team.

If they were to fight, Itachi would probably win, though.

[AyaneDaButtafly]

Deidara has a huge fanbase. Just look at the fanclubs forum. There are many FCs dedicated to him. But there are also many people who dislike him, because of the rabid fanboys he has which like to overhype him and which are more interested in pairing Deidara than the character himself.

You will soon see what he is capable of, but you shouldnt make an assumption yet, like he is stronger than Itachi, because you really havent seen an Akatsuki gone all out yet as an Anime only watcher.

You're right:amuse he has HUGE fanbase , but 80% of them is fangirls lol and that including me....
:nuts OMFG DEIDARA YOU LOOK SOOO FREAKIN HOT IN
EPISODE 4 :nuts I THINK IAM GONNA DIE IN UR SEXYNESS :love :drool :drool

[AyaneDaButtafly]

Now I dont want to offend anyone or make it seem like Im tryin to start a argument, but Deidara IMO is the most worthless Akatsuki character we have been introduced to thus far. I dont understand at all how he could be more popular than Naruto himself, and I have no idea how Deidara could ever possibly beat Itachi. Ok so Deidara is smart and uses explosive clay animals which is not really all that impressive. Seems to me that Deidara is a step above Shikamaru using kunai with exploding tags. Saying anyone could go head to head with Itachi is a bold statement in itself. Now the AL may be able to but no one knows because we have no idea what he can do. The only other person I see that can probably go dead even with Itachi is the Fourth. Itachi is not normal in any sense of the word and is a genius among geniuses. Plus we have not even seen his full capabilities as of yet...all we know is that he wiped out his whole genius clan when he was a kid.

but then again Im probably biased lolololol

Excuse me :notrust ? What's with the deidara-bashing here ??? UN ? UN?

We all know that Deidara isn't the strongest one in Akatsuki but thats ok, We (deidara's fans) will still like him, for who he is. Funny, active, cute,smart, and Loveable. He is an akatsuki but not like itachi or most of the member he's really different(tobi is different too) he seem...more friendly and...talkative:amuse... well iam not good at explaining how i feel about deidara but what i mean is STOP thinking that deidara is the most useless akatsuki member out there, because he isn't. If he was useless then where do you think all his fans come from, he doesn't have to be powerful to be love by fans. Beside Deidara himself never said anything about being the most powerful, he admitted that he is weaker than sasori and other members,(not hidan though) he accepted the fact that Naruto beat him. That what I like about him.

Ok lets get to the itachi power thingy. :oh ...Look iono if he is really THAT poweful, i alway thought that he was overated. So far all we see is "The art of run " whenever he was about to get into a real fight. And stop saying "OMFG WOW ITACHI KILLED HIS WHOLE CLAN HE MUST BE POWERFUL" no. Thats wrong. Maybe his clan was all useless or maybe he wasn't the one who killed them, all we saw was dead bodies everywhere and him holding his katana or w/e and sasuke screaming, we didn't really see him kills them, maybe he was just lying, maybe he wanted to be the cover for someone else (maybe AL). Ok so maybe he was THAT powerful, so what ?:oh does that make him the most "OMFG MR.IMPORTANT MEMBER OF AKATSUKI" ? and deidara the most "OMFG MR. WORTHLESS MEMBER OF AKATSUKI? WTH????:huh

You guy gotta admit that deidara pwn itachi with his fanbaseT.T Its an anime so fans is the most important thing >.> duh !

[AyaneDaButtafly]

sorry uchiha_sasuke9 iam not trying to pick on u or anything, iam just trying to tell everyone that itachi is not the most important akat and deidara is not the most useless akat >.>

[uchiha_sasuke9]

so "useless" was the wrong word to use to describe Deidara. What I was trying to convey was the fact that there is no way that Deidara is one of the strongest members of Akatsuki and not a chance he would beat Itachi in a fight. Now if you think that Itachi is overrated or a weakling, you and I dont watch the same anime. Being made a Anbu commander at like 12 is not something a weak nin accompishes, and If Im not mistaken he pwned Kurenai in genjutsu who is one of the strongest genjutsu users. Itachi's full power or array of techniques has not even been displayed in the slightest and he has taken out so many without even displaying any effort...even Oro knows he cant beat him. Now I understand everyone likes Deidara cuz he is a good character and everything...I just dont think he is a very exciting nin or a extremely talented one. I would say talent wise he is on par with kabuto which is not bad at all, just not one of the stronger characters in the story. The only point Im tryin to make is Deidara as a nin is not one of the strongest no matter how many fans he has. In fact

kakashi pwns Deidara and Itachi fawked Kakashi up within a heartbeat

[Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki]

so "useless" was the wrong word to use to describe Deidara. What I was trying to convey was the fact that there is no way that Deidara is one of the strongest members of Akatsuki and not a chance he would beat Itachi in a fight. Now if you think that Itachi is overrated or a weakling you and I dont watch the same anime. Being made a Anbu commander at like 12 is not something a weak nin accompishes, and If Im not mistaken he pwned Kurenai in genjutsu and she is one of the strongest genjutsu users. Itachi's full power or array of techniques has not even been displayed in the slightest and he has taken out so many without even displaying any effort. Now I understand everyone likes Deidara cuz he is a good character and everything...I just dont think he is a very exciting nin or a extremely talented one. I would say talent wise he is on par with kabuto which is not bad at all, just not one of the stronger characters in the story. The only point Im tryin to make is Deidara as a nin is not one of the strongest no matter how many fans he has. In fact

kakashi pwns Deidara and Itachi fawked Kakashi up within a heartbeat

Regarding what you have in your spoiler: no.

[Danny]

ah anime only people and itachi fans its like talking to a brickwall with downsyndrome

[Excalibur]

*moves to house of uzumaki*

[Tayuya]

hahah we have to move anime threads because you can't stop manga-whores from being spoiling idiots.

[Woodrokiro]

I agree that he hasn't shown us his all yet, but I don't think he's at the same level as Itachi.

[durtycheese]

to me deidara is pretty cool, i like most akatsuki, but fomr what ive seen hes a very popular character in the series. most people like him out of all the akatsuki we have seen so far. i dont think hes on the same level as itachi but hes one of the stronger guys for sure.

[Zarigani]

i dont think hes on the same level as itachi but hes one of the stronger guys for sure.

Yes, I have a strong feeling he's one of the stronger Akatsuki member. I believe he at least could beat Kisame.

[M E L O D Y]

I guess since Deidara have so much respect for him, he must be insane strong, like Buu in DBZ. They're both fat and ugly.smile-big

Maybe Sasori isn't in his original form, just like Buu were at the beginning.:) Sasori probably fused together with a ugly and old female shinobi or something.
He need to remember his old self, and then he really kick ass.



You misunderstood. I believe that Jiraiya said that there are stronger people than Orochimaru and Itachi. I agree with you that Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru.
u'll be VERY suprised with Sasori's real form... He's not even close to ugly at all ^^

[M E L O D Y]

Itachi's not smarter than Deidara -.- the AL is probably but not Itachi. Itachi is stronger yes but not as much of a quick thinker like Deidara

Deidara tricked Kakashi (a sharigan user), and Neji (a Byakugan user)
they thought he died... like Itachi could do that.

[-Deidara-]

Deidara is awesome.

[AyaneDaButtafly]

so "useless" was the wrong word to use to describe Deidara. What I was trying to convey was the fact that there is no way that Deidara is one of the strongest members of Akatsuki and not a chance he would beat Itachi in a fight. Now if you think that Itachi is overrated or a weakling, you and I dont watch the same anime. Being made a Anbu commander at like 12 is not something a weak nin accompishes, and If Im not mistaken he pwned Kurenai in genjutsu who is one of the strongest genjutsu users. Itachi's full power or array of techniques has not even been displayed in the slightest and he has taken out so many without even displaying any effort...even Oro knows he cant beat him. Now I understand everyone likes Deidara cuz he is a good character and everything...I just dont think he is a very exciting nin or a extremely talented one. I would say talent wise he is on par with kabuto which is not bad at all, just not one of the stronger characters in the story. The only point Im tryin to make is Deidara as a nin is not one of the strongest no matter how many fans he has. In fact

kakashi pwns Deidara and Itachi fawked Kakashi up within a heartbeat

Kakashi does not pwn Deidara. :notrust If you're talking the deidara vs kakashi + NARUTO fight then i think u need to read the manga again cuz when deidara fight TWO of them he was running out of clayhe just fought Gaara not so long ago,its a 2 vs 1 fight and he was trying to run not trying to fight .But Deidara still manage to escape alive while kakashi pass out after using his "missy missed" MK, not to mention that deidara was about to blows everyone off with his clone >.> I dont think that what you call "Pwn"

If you're talking about kakashi popularity pwn deidara then u gotta start reading from the start again czu deidara only appear in a few chapter and kakashi was there from teh start, 150 chapters or something >.>

[Hell On Earth]

Deidara is just lucky.

[Kay-kun]

He's an okay character. But I think he will showcase his skills more in the next ep of Shipuuden

[Mangekyo Bankai]

The fallacy in this thread is almost tangible... like some dank mist hanging in a mauseloeum. I wonder where this was before it plopped into the HoU, may I never stray into that dark and confused crevice of NF....

Anyway, yeah Deidara is cool but I wouldn't erect (laugh it up children) a statue of him or say he can "like totally pwn Itachi lolz!1!" or anything outrageous like that... but he's ok. I would like to see a fight between him and Sai in the future. Hopefully a fight that ends in Sai's death.

[Hell On Earth]

Sai's outfit does not do him any justice.

[Kayuuko]

Kakashi does not pwn Deidara. :notrust


Not to mention the fact that he...
... had no arms and still was able to fight with just a kunai in his mouth and the bunshin explosion you mentioned~

So yeah... Deidara has been awesome so far... in the anime and in the manga >_>

[M E L O D Y]

OK, first and foremost... i's sorry about the ellipsis thing... i... as you can see.... cannot help it.... LOL

But to clarify somethings... I'm not saying the Mangeykou Shagingan is a different eye techinque, but that it is as differnet from regular sharingan as can be.

A regular sharingan user is no match whatsoever for a Mangeykou Sharingan user. Itachi says so himself... and Sasuske knows from reading the scroll in the secret Uchiha meeting place.

The only thing that can match up equally, or that can fight itachi's Mangeykou Sharingan is none other than another Sharingan user.

So in that respect, regular Sharingan is essentially worthless against Mangeykou Sharingan.

I know you can turn it off and on... but it is not regular shringan... it is completely different...

none of the jutsu that can be accomplished with Mangeykou Sharingan... are even possible with normal sharingan.

AS for the number of people capable of attaining it... you are right... i misspoke. We really dont know, there could have been 50 Uchiha in the past who had it, but all we really know is that there are three people who are capable of achieveing it at this time.

Kabuto - the reason i wrote what i did about Kabuto is b/c Kakashi says he cannot defeat Kabuto in his current state. You may be right about Kabuto as well. Now that there has been a time skip... we dont know how much Kabuto has improved if any... and we havent seen Kakashi's true abilites yet either.

Lets keep in mind that Kabuto feared Sauske's chakra, and that was no act. He was genuinley scared by Sauske's chakra.

But Orichimaru was not... he basically got an orgasm from sensing it.

I would lean towards Orichimaru being able to kill Kabuto at any time if he wished.

But it will be interesting to see what happens.

Temari and Itachi... ha ha... you are joking i know... very funny.

And lastly, I know nothing of Tachi-Kun...

Tachi-Kun and I, we do not roll together.
im confussed @.@ what did i do? and Hell No i don't roll with u >:O

[SinnisterSinner]

WOOOOOOT!!! GO DEIDARA!!!!

[BigHazz]

Rematch Deidra vs Gaara Hopefully

[-Deidara-]

Not to mention the fact that he...
... had no arms and still was able to fight with just a kunai in his mouth and the bunshin explosion you mentioned~

So yeah... Deidara has been awesome so far... in the anime and in the manga >_>


yeah thats the truth. hes awesome. especially fighting with no arms.

[Terrence Urameshi]

I'm not trying to say Deidara is weak, but what if you take his clay away from him? Would he still be so strong? You can't tell. Maybe he has an entire array of ninjutsu and genjutsu that he holds out on because the clay usually does it for him. We have no idea really what he's truly capable of, so it's kinda premature to say anyone's stronger than anyone. If we can assume anything, it's that the Leader is at some sort of level where all the members respect him as a leader.

[Cr1msonBl0od]

He seems so limited in his jutsus, compared to itachi it just looks like he only knows one jutsu and itachi knows like 100...but deidara is really good at what he does!

[AyaneDaButtafly]

He seems so limited in his jutsus, compared to itachi it just looks like he only knows one jutsu and itachi knows like 100...but deidara is really good at what he does!

He has more than one jutsu ! he has different kind of kibaku nendo (exploding clay) one # is one justsu ( for example #18 was count as 1 jutsu) :) :)

[Hell On Earth]

The Uchia's are invincible.