Sasuke vs Kakashi

[bigblah]

Last time I posted that and said Sasuke is on Kakashi's level or stronger I was flamed by angry Kakashi fans and the thread was landfilled iirc (that was posted when Sasuke was first shown post timeskip or maybe before that). What do you think now? Before I thought Kakashi can fight Sasuke at all but after 343 I see it'd be a massacre.

[Epiphany]

If Kakashi admits that Naruto is equal or stronger than him then from what we've seen from Sasuke in this last chapter it seems logical that he definitely has surpassed his old sensei.

Sasuke is aiming for Sannin level now by fighting Orochimaru but he is ill... so would it be possible for him to beat him at full power? That's impossible to tell for now. I think Kakashi is probably worth Orochimaru in his current state so we'll have an answer in the next chapters.

[Saosin]

Sasuke .

[Spell]

Sasuke seems to be very confident. He definitely believws he is able to defeat Oro and probably Kabuto. However we won't know is Sasuke stronger than Kakashi until the end of a current fight.

[Choakslame]

Kakashi was HARDLY beaten by Itachi..
Sasuke can't beat Itachi at all.. It's obvious - Sasuke is still not enough to beat Kakashi..

[sel]

kakashi has MS/rasengan/millions of techniques and amazing taijutsu

though sasuke's awesome beating orochimaru whilst in a hospitalised state isnt that worthy - we'll have to see

[Epiphany]

Kakashi was HARDLY beaten by Itachi..
Sasuke can't beat Itachi at all.. It's obvious - Sasuke is still not enough to beat Kakashi..

Hardly huh? he went down with one Tsukuyomi... he would have been killed if Gai hadn't arrived... you have to admit that Kakashi didn't push Itachi to his limits.

kakashi has MS/rasengan/millions of techniques and amazing taijutsu

though sasuke's awesome beating orochimaru whilst in a hospitalised state isnt that worthy - we'll have to see

worthy or not it doesn't matter, he is a shinobi, he has to be opportunist and strike when he's sure he can kill. I'd rather consider that as being smart. Nevertheless I agree we'll have to wait for the next chapters to know what he's really worth.

[Kai]

In that gigantic massacre scene that Sasuke created with those no-name nins, it seems Sasuke could probably take on Kakashi.

He must have plowed through hundreds of shinobi without any short of breath or a single scratch on his body.

He's challenging to take on Orochimaru, and doesn't really fear anyone at this point.

I'll give it to Sasuke although I despise him.

[Gooba]

As much as I hate Sasuke, and love Kakashi, I think the Uchiha has this one. Kakashi's talk of the yonger generation taking over and Naruto surpassing him convinced me. Sasuke taking out a bunch of nameless nins isn't really impressive, but I still think he wins.

[Orga777]

When I see the next few chapters, then I will give you my answer.

[Yashamaru]

Hardly huh? he went down with one Tsukuyomi... he would have been killed if Gai hadn't arrived... you have to admit that Kakashi didn't push Itachi to his limits.

It seems clear to me as well. No wonder that Itachi wasn't pushing his self that hard against Kakashi. Seriously, what did he do against the Uchiha?

But then again...
kakashi has MS/rasengan/millions of techniques and amazing taijutsu

So, Kakashi.

[durtycheese]

if narut ohas reached his level, sasuke has as well.

[Splintered]

I honestly don't know anymore. Even if Kakashi says Naruto is his level a thousand times over, it's hard to wrap my mind around it, the same goes for Sasuke. It's hard to imagine that Kakashi would be chumped, with his level of brilliance, his taijutsu, his experience, his ninjutsu, and his mangekyou.

However, recent manga makes it hard to deny, Sasuke is incredibly powerful. Enough for him to be confident to run away from the Sound, regardless of Orochimaru being weak or not. His seemingly effortless victories make it look like that he would win, hands down.

[IonDragon]

Well, recent manga chapters point in favor of Sasuke. No doubt.

[sandydeath101]

kakashi is probably the winner of this battle, he is just an amazing nin (not that he's the best) but Sasuke would make it hard for Kakashi. But that's just my opinion after all...I HATE SASUKE.

[bigblah]

Sasuke taking out a bunch of nameless nins isn't really impressive
Lol and i suppose yondaime taking out 50 nameless nins (with the help of 4 konoha ninja) is impressive?

[Chaos Hokage]

Sasuke would win. Here's my proof.

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/343mq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26534

NUFF SAID!!

[Aizen]

^he can beat 100 cannonfodder ninja while oro mastrubates?

kakashi loses by a little... it could go either way though.

[little nin]

well, i guess sasuke would win, but then again i would just say it's because kakashi can be seen as weak compared to him nowadays if u ask me >_>

[hyuuga_neji14732]

Sasuke would win

[Pein]

kakashi not easily but sasukes got time before he takes kakashi

[blash]

i think that naruto with the half finished fuuton, which apperantly made him kakashi's equal, might be able to stand up to sasuke now. so what im sayin is that if naruto can match sasuke with his new jutsu being avaible this time, kakashi with his ms can at least fight sasuke on equal terms.

[Terryc250]

who knows, if what kakashi said was true about naruto being on his level or stronger, then sasuke would take kakashi

but honestly i cant see naruto being able to do what kakashi does, like protect his comrads while holding his own against kakuzu, and being smart like kakashi etc

[shurikentarget]

of course sasuke would win
anyone ever thought of curse seal lv 2?

[Mangekyo Bankai]

Unfortunately, Kakashi would probably lose, especially with CS and all.

[Spell]

I don't know why you Grrblt deleted my post. I didn't stated anything from 344 ( besides I havent read it yet xD, I've only seen first 2 pages and it was an assumption). However I respect your decision, I appreciate you care about battledome :)

[Dudemancool]

close but i think sasuke wins

Chidori Blade/Nagashi > Raikiri (range wise and usefulness wise that is)

2 Sharingans > 1 Sharingan

Speed... =?

Mangekyou is too slow to be even considered in this fight.

[barfly]

they are both at same speed; sasuke wont let kakashi use ms against him; kakashi wins cuz more chakra/experience

[Dudemancool]

waaait i forgot

Sasuke takes this one with CS2.

More speed, more chakra, more strength, better use of Sharingan = win.

[10InchPianist]

I think Kakashi would win with alot of difficulty. When he said that Naruto surpassed him, I think he meant just power-wise, Kakashi still seems smarter and more capable in battle than both of them.
And Sasuke DID NOT beat Orochimaru. Orochimaru, in an incredibly weakened state, tried to take over his body, and Sasuke managed to fight that off. That is not the same as beating him in a fight (Though, in his condition, I don't think he'd be able to beat Sasuke).

[Dementia]

I think they're quite equivalent. And becouse there is(was) shown some kind of parallel between them, it's even more likely, that they are.

[Haku]

sasuke FTW

[Grimmjowsensei]

Kakashi was HARDLY beaten by Itachi..
Sasuke can't beat Itachi at all.. It's obvious - Sasuke is still not enough to beat Kakashi..


hardly ? Our definitions of hard must be very different then... Itachi didn't drop a sweat while he was owning kakashi and he did that in a couple of seconds what is so hard in that ?
Hard to decide in sasuke vs kakashi battle the only time we saw sharingan users fight each other was Itachi vs kakashi and that happened pretty fast. What we learned was whoever has the mangekyou sharingan has the upper hand. In this case Kakashi having the mangekyou sharingan has a better chance of winning.