View Full Version : If the 4th is Naruto's dad then why keep that fact secret?
moezee
02-21-2007, 02:40 PM
why whould everyone in the village hide it from naruto
JeffStudios
02-21-2007, 02:42 PM
why whould everyone in the village hide it from naruto
Cause Naruto never asked i guess.
nara90
02-21-2007, 02:47 PM
First of all he isn't and i think he was told that they died in some way
catiprojectc
02-21-2007, 02:51 PM
It's a good theory but to far fetched if you ask me.. but yeah.. if the 4 th was his dad why keep it hidden.. maybe because they were just to damn lazy to explain.. I think naruto still thinks baby's come from flowers or something.. (!!*sorry don't mean to bash naruto so no offense to naruto fans)
AmitG1984
02-21-2007, 02:52 PM
The 4th is not naruto's father ,infact naruto is a clone of the 4th but let to grow up in a normal way!only a few know about that including me!
Bresakar
02-21-2007, 02:55 PM
Check the theory section out and you'll find the thread that discusses that topic. And he's not his father to make sure, I want some manga proof!
Micah
02-21-2007, 03:04 PM
How did Naruto come into existance? Yondy found a newborn baby just lying around somewhere? If no one knows anything about Naruto's parents it is safe to assume that Yondy could have had a woman with Naruto in secret. Why keep it secret? Because Kishimoto wants to reveal it later and make you go "OMG!" It's the suspense factor.
donmonly
02-21-2007, 03:51 PM
maybe the village doesn't know about it
Cirus
02-21-2007, 03:52 PM
Well this thread type has been done before. As to the question that has been asked I would say that he is not the father of Naruto but rather a close relation such as a brother or something along those lines. As of not knowing about it I would have to say that someone passed an edict stating that he should not find out about it. But that is just my opinion.
durtycheese
02-21-2007, 07:37 PM
yea i agree its wierd how they never talked about his parents or what happened to them.
-Dargor-
02-21-2007, 07:49 PM
Naruto = Yondy
Believe it >.< !
LordKazekage
02-21-2007, 07:56 PM
Whoaa nice info didnt know that
Wait. If? When did it become if? That 'secret' has been thrown in everyone's face since the moment the 4th was mentioned.
As for why doesn't Naruto know? He was always too gay for Sasuke to bother wondering about parents and whatnot.
zain-za-nara
02-21-2007, 08:02 PM
Well this thread type has been done before. As to the question that has been asked I would say that he is not the father of Naruto but rather a close relation such as a brother or something along those lines. As of not knowing about it I would have to say that someone passed an edict stating that he should not find out about it. But that is just my opinion.
is it just me or does anyone else see the resemblance between this an enother certain decree ment to hide vital secrets from naruto ... (hint think Mizuki and manga vol 1)
Master Shake
02-21-2007, 08:03 PM
well if the 4th is his fater there would be good reason one he would feel like he killed his father or such by having the demon in him . two trying to live up to him and possibaly not making it. three not being able to be taught by him knowing he would have tauhght him as a child and how great he would be.
Lucid
02-21-2007, 08:09 PM
IMO it would be a big plot hole is the 4th was his father. If he was, no one would treat Naruto the way they did (although how he was treated didn't seem too bad to me...) and some one would have told him by now, there would be absolutely no reason not to tell him. If the 4th does end up being Naruto's father then it obviously is something Kishi thought of way after he started writing the manga.
Naruto's parents will be revealed towards the end of the series, if not at the end of the series.
Woodrokiro
02-21-2007, 08:13 PM
Maybe he already knew, but we don't yet. Like whenit revealed Kurenai was pregnant with Asuma's baby
kimidoll
02-21-2007, 08:16 PM
The entire "Yondaime is Naruto's Dad" thing is still a theory, despite all the hard evidence. Kishimoto will tell us Yondaime's role when he wants to.
And IF it's true, maybe they just don't want him to know. 7/8 of the village doesn't exactly like him.
Instant Karma
02-21-2007, 08:20 PM
I always thought it wrong and strange.
However, it might have something to do with the Sandaime or someone like that forbidding others to speak of it for reasons that have yet to be explained. And plot no jutsu would deem that the revelation of Naruto's parentage will make a much bigger impact later on in the series.
Assuming Yondy is Naruto's dad at all of course....
dragon695
02-21-2007, 11:48 PM
Those citizens are so wack for the way they treated Naruto it wouldn't surprise me at all they wouldn't tell him something like this. Besides, does he seem like the kind of person who would endanger someone else's child to attempt a very risky jutsu? He probably knew his fate for sometime, how else would he know to develop the complicated jutsu before the Kyuubi appeared? Its application seems rather limited and the price very high to be developed just as an afterthought.
Batman
02-22-2007, 12:40 AM
It's because Naruto is his clone baby. I thought we've been over this already.
sukettebayo
02-22-2007, 12:50 AM
the 4th supposedly died with the kyubbi and all of narutos relatives apparently died as well. The real question is why would you tell a little kid "hey everyone you love is dead..." no, they wanted to give him a glimmer of hope to give him the feeling that he still had someone out there who cared for him.
But he never asked so they probably have just never told him...
KentaLjung
02-22-2007, 11:41 AM
Maybe he just didnt want naruto to think badly of him.
he sealed a demon fox in naruto who lived his life in misery for like 12 years, thats probably why.
I remember when jiraiya checked out narutos Seal on his stomach, he said something like "its designed so that some chakra is able to leak out, you did it to proctect him didnt you Fourth?". "Him" as in "random village baby"? dont think so...
Pugthug
02-22-2007, 05:55 PM
I think it is his brother and AL is the father to them and if that blue haired Akatsuki member is a female that is his mom.
gabzilla
02-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Because Kishimoto knew there would be countless of threads dedicated to the "is he or is he not?" topic.
JarethDallis
02-22-2007, 11:20 PM
Because Kishimoto knew there would be countless of threads dedicated to the "is he or is he not?" topic.
I agree to that.
And also because there is some plot reason that Kishimoto hasn't thought of yet.
soniclinx
02-23-2007, 12:26 AM
i dont believe he is for some reason people want him to be for no good point actually
Konoha no Kīroi Senkō
02-23-2007, 01:36 AM
I don't know why it is never revealed to Naruto but it is showed in the manga and anime. It shows on the first episode/chapter The 4th on top of the frog boss and when naruto signs the contract the person right next to it is arashi uzumaki.
sangofluter8448
02-24-2007, 02:58 AM
I think he already knows. Either that or telling him is part of the decree. If that is the case, and everyone knows, maybe they still hate him because his mom was a loser, idk. there must be some reason why they still hate him if he were Yondaime's son. I don't think the Naruto/4th clone theory works because it's stated that the fox was sealed into a baby boy...?
KyuubiLover
02-24-2007, 05:02 PM
Well, like it was already said, what kind of a Hokage would Yondy have been using someone else's child rather than his own? We know that he practically was the embodiment of everything a Hokage has to be.
Now as to why would they keep the fact Yondy is Naruto's father a secret? First of all, exactly how many people would've been able to know about this fact?
1) Jiraiya
2) Sandaime
3) Kakashi (maybe)
Three people, tops. And another thing: Yondaime probably made numerous enemies, especially Iwagakure. Now, if it had been revealed that Naruto is Yondaime's son, his heir, the would've either tried to kill or abduct him to mould him into a weapon they could use against Konoha. And we all know about the crappy level of security in Konoha if the Chuunin exams are any indication....
Choakslame
02-24-2007, 05:19 PM
Yondaime put the demon fox in him.. Why would Naruto want to know that it was his father?
maybe because he's not the father? :amazed
NarutoShippuuden16
02-24-2007, 05:33 PM
Well, like it was already said, what kind of a Hokage would Yondy have been using someone else's child rather than his own? We know that he practically was the embodiment of everything a Hokage has to be.
Now as to why would they keep the fact Yondy is Naruto's father a secret? First of all, exactly how many people would've been able to know about this fact?
1) Jiraiya
2) Sandaime
3) Kakashi (maybe)
Three people, tops. And another thing: Yondaime probably made numerous enemies, especially Iwagakure. Now, if it had been revealed that Naruto is Yondaime's son, his heir, the would've either tried to kill or abduct him to mould him into a weapon they could use against Konoha. And we all know about the crappy level of security in Konoha if the Chuunin exams are any indication....
I agree with this.
Kalessin
02-24-2007, 06:34 PM
Personally, I think Naruto is just a clone too like others think. He used The Seal technique that took the life of the 3rd in his battle with Orochimaru, to take away the soul of the fox demon and seal it within him (as said by the 3rd during his final fight).
There are still a couple of things missing to make this 100% solid. The 4ths mastery of the clone technique is still unknown. Could he make a clone of himself to become any age? Where there any other techniques involved in which allowed this one particular clone to survive the Soul steal technique's final outcome of death?
Why its kept a secret from him might have to do with 3rd party interests taking notice of what just happened and wanting to manipulate it and gain its strength for their advantage (as currently already illustrated by the interest in Naruto from other groups). Think aboout it, a way in which one can steal the soul of another being, add it to their own, and be reborn with the strengths of all souls involved. Immortality and ultimate strength in one neat little package.
The rest of the Village might indeed have known that he had the fox demon inside of him, but they might not have been privy to knowing that he was a clone of the 4th, which would have been privy only to a select few (the 3rd, Jiraiya, the 5th, etc.).
sukettebayo
02-25-2007, 12:41 AM
why whould everyone in the village hide it from naruto
He was an accident...?
TreeofSephri
02-25-2007, 12:43 AM
I am the only one who find Yondaime unusally handsome.
staradderdragoon
02-25-2007, 12:46 AM
maybe cause he isnt? i mean, it's a logical assumption. but why cant ppl get it out of their head that maybe yondaime isnt naruto's father?
TreeofSephri
02-25-2007, 12:51 AM
Maybe it was to save Naruto the embarrasment. I know I would be so embarrased if I had a asshole like Yondaime for father.
ThoraxeRMG
02-25-2007, 02:13 AM
A) They don't know it.
B) Yondaime Hokage told them not to tell him untill he was ready,if they did anyways he could of been a arrogant, stating "My dad's a Hokage Bitches, bow to me."
C) Naruto never asked.
ArtsaBang
02-25-2007, 02:44 AM
Okay, it's never been proven that Naruto is the 4th's son, and although it's an interesting concept, I wont beleieve it till it's written in the damned manga
•Fallacy•
05-18-2007, 02:10 PM
I think he is, but Kishi still hasn't confirmed it.....if Yondie is his dad then it won't be much of a surprise.
We don't even know his freakin' name.
And why not say it?
To annoy us, ofcourse.
DetaH
05-18-2007, 05:15 PM
i would suggest not trying to understand the complicated ways of kishi you'll only end up with a migraine
Uchiha Arlent
05-18-2007, 06:20 PM
WOw im tried of threads like this .... but since it came up ........... i dont think the 4th was naruto's father .....I....................................think... .................................................. .....he .................................................. ..............was................................. .......................his........................ ...........brother....because maybe thier parents died a long time ago ....................... sooooo i think the yondamine is his brother not father becuase they should at least give some int that , that was his father............becuase i bet money the animators did this unpurpose they we probably like " lets make him look like naruto soo they will think it's his dad " but sometimes the obvious isnt always the truth .
Noein
05-18-2007, 06:22 PM
because kishi sucks like a 2 dollar hooker
Uchiha Arlent
05-18-2007, 06:36 PM
OOOOOOO
ZOMFG maybe the 4th used some kind of techqiune that takes him back to the past and brings him back.
And he took his baby form to the future and sealed the demon within himself.........wow weird.............OOOORRRRRRRRR he could be some guy that looks like naruto u never know.
Loulabelle
05-21-2007, 02:07 PM
Well, there's always the possibility that none of the villagers know about it, which is likely, seeing as though they could tell anyone, which could result into Naruto ebing kidnapped/killed before he learnt to defend himself...
Also, it would be hard for Naruto, who didn't really have any extra training (most got extra from parents/siblings) to live up to expecations...
...I suppose.
Plus, it makes the story a bit more interesting, e.g. this thread. Its one of the many mysteries of Naruto that the readers/watchers love... It would be boring without all the secrets and twists, wouldn't it? Like I said on a similar thread, and many people have probably already said this, but it's probably going to be a while until anything big like this happens anyway, so we should just enjoy the story for now, and keep the surprise until the whole thing unfolds...
frenchmax
05-21-2007, 04:50 PM
i bet that yondaime is his father (im not saying that i actually know that he is, i guess we have to wait till kishi decides when to say who is naruto's fathers) there are several reasons why i think that yondai is his father:
1.- yondaime and naruto are the same spiky blonde haired, person also they look almost equally in aspects.
2.- is that the only one that have been able to make a rasengan as strong as the rasengan made by the fourth is naruto, also the one that is so close to create the rasengan + element is naruto, what more proof than that a father that created a technique that he himself could complete, so that his son could make what his father coulldn't.
3.- also the fact that both of them can summon gamabunta, i know that this is a little bit silly but think for a while, if being able to summon gamabunta as yondaime is stupid why kishi didnt make jiraiya teach naruto learn to summon frogs why he didnt make jiraiya teach naruto to summon something else. of all the possible summons we have seen so far why naruto had to summon gamabunta as his first summon (fourth used this same frog to stop the nine-tails)
4.- now it is about the sealed nine tails, why did yondaime the one whose mission and wish is to protect konoha decided to seal the nine tails inside and uknown kid????, why not inside his son, his own blood, the one that he knew would be able to control the same beast he sealed before dying. why sealing a so dangerous monster inside an uknown kid when your wish is to protect konoha.
5.- an the last brainwaved proof, look back to the jinchuuryki that exists rigth now... Gaara have had the same feelings as naruto, not being acknowledge, being alone the whole time and everything because he has a beast sealed by HIS OWN FATHER INSIDE HIM... in other words the sand monster (don't recall its name) was placed inside gaara by his own father, why it couldnt have happened to naruto too. them both have being alone always and not being acknowledge, i guess the fact that having a beast inside u sealed by your fathers isnt hard to believe.
but as i said it is just a theory, so dont take it so seriously. Gaara and naruto they are the same and also different.
btw: sorry if i misspelled
so point 3) It' s because all the guys who summon animals have contracts with these animals. Orochimaru with snakes, tsunade with these ugly things, jiraiya with frogs, kakashi with dogs etc... Jiraiya was naruto' s second teacher and the only one to make him sign a contract so.....
Yakushi Kabuto
05-21-2007, 05:12 PM
Because the mother was someone of questionable origins? I don't know, I never really thought the 4th was his father despite the similiarities in hair/eyes.
Lord_Amesius
05-21-2007, 05:46 PM
Its more the way Jiraiya hints at it than the looks that make me think Yondaime is Naruto's father.
Sky is Over
05-21-2007, 05:58 PM
IMO, it probably has something to do more with the Kyuubi, maybe that was once the yondaime's wife as a jinchurukki but for some freak reason transformed into the full kyuubi, actually giving birth to Naruto. It might've ultimately been kept secret so none of the other nations knew Naruto was a Bijuu.
DethStryque
05-21-2007, 05:59 PM
<_> I'd Laugh if it turned out jiraiya was his father LMAO
Denizen
05-21-2007, 06:10 PM
It's a good point, if it was true.
but there could be many reasons:
- Maybe the mother isn't worth knowing (e.g. forbidden love with enemy ninja or something silly like that)
- Everything involving Kyuubi is kept secret
- No arrogance for Naruto.
- Yondaime is a pirate
etc.
It might not even be true.
We'll all wait and see.
Scorpion
05-21-2007, 06:56 PM
why whould everyone in the village hide it from naruto
Cuz the forth Hokage had lots of people who wanted him dead (Rock nin). So they might have keep it a secret so his fathers enines didn't come for him?
M.K.V
05-21-2007, 07:34 PM
Perhaps Naruto's mother is Rin?
lol you never know.. maybe she and Yondaime grew closer after the loss of Obito and began having a relationship, which eventually resulted in an underage pregnancy/ baby. Fearing the reputation of the Hokage/ Konoha, the higher-ups may have had Rin 'disappear' by means of ANBU. This would explain why she's nowhere to be seen nowadays... Also the grief of her loss may have given Yondaime the determination to sacrifice himself in battle in order to secure the future of his son.
The reason nobody in Konoha has told Naruto about their connection, would be because the scandal was covered up so well, they don't know Yondaime even had a son in the first place.
Yeah okay this is pretty damn far-fetched.. but it's one possible explanation!
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