Oro + Sasuke vs. Jiraiya, Naruto, Tsunade and Sakura

[Woozie]

The genius sannin & his super prodigy student vs. The no-talent masturbators and worthless med-nins.

Oro is in a body he was when he fought sandaime (i.e. a decent one), and he has the renegeration jutsus he showed post-timeskip. Sasuke is in his current condition.

No Edo Tensei (to be fair for the other team), boss summons are allowed.

[Sasori]

lol haha wot a biased opening statement xDDDDD

I think 2 sannin are capable of taking down Orochimaru imo.

With Naruto and Sakura holding off Sasuke until the others help.

[successortt]

This is overkill if you're talkin about the naruto that just surpassed kakashi.

the team of 4 win

[Canute87]

Orochiamru is in a body that's weakeningby the day he and sasuke would lose.

[Prince of Perverts]

Yup Emo Kid and Emo King both lose... really bad... like it's undescribable how badly they would lose.

Naruto is now greater then Kakashi and he's getting extremely smart. Sakura is extremely smart and we haven't really seen her do much new jutsu, but strength wise if she hits Sasuke once he'll be dead lol.

Tsunade and Jiraiya kicked Oro's ass once and that's when Tsunade was frightened of blood and Jiraiya was stoned out of his mind. It's an easy victory for the JTNS Team.

[Esponer]

Tsunade and Jiraiya kicked Oro's ass once and that's when Tsunade was frightened of blood and Jiraiya was stoned out of his mind.
…and when Orochimaru was unable to use his hands, perform hand seals or use virtually any of his jutsu. All three had handicaps: Tsunade's was the least significant and Orochimaru's quite possibly the most, considering that Jiraiya shook off the worst of his condition during the battle.

[Kaiji]

team of 4 win

[durtycheese]

oro and sasugay would get their asses kicked so fast oro would be able to molest sasuke for a month.

[Kyon]

We don't really know enough of the true Sannin capabilities nor more than a glimpse of Sasuke's, so that makes this battle a little harder to judge.

However, unless Sasuke is as strong as Oro, they're not going to win. The other team outnumbers them, plus they have better teamwork and an extra boss summon to assist against Manda.

[vagnard]

I believe that current Sasuke can take both Sakura and Naruto at the same time.

But 2 sannin is too much for Oro.

Team "will of fire" wins.

[Uchiha Madara]

I hate to say it, but I agree with vagnard.

You should have thrown Kabuto in there to take care of Tsunade. Then team sound would pwn.

[ZE]

Easy victory for team konoha just because you underestimate someone who can make Itachi and Kisame run. Do you think that’s an easy feat? To make them run you have at least to be on a level almost or even better superior to Orochimaru. Don’t underestimate Jiraiya please, why do you think Kishi hasn’t gave him a fight? everything we saw from him until now was A-Rank Justus, and that A-Rank jutsus were already superior to everything we saw in the manga, its obvious he will have S-Rank jutsus like Oro has, Jiraiya will much stronger than you think.

[hyuuga_neji14732]

Oro and Sasuke would get powned

[Redux-shika boo]

I believe that current Sasuke can take both Sakura and Naruto at the same time.

But 2 sannin is too much for Oro.

Team "will of fire" wins.

I don't think Sasuke would have much trouble killing both Sakura and Naruto.
Sasuke could just blitz Sakura without her even seeing and that's it for her.
That just makes it Sasuke Vs Naruto again. In this case, Sasuke beats Naruto quickly. Seriously, Sasuke would just need to use Chidori Current to stun Naruto, and then use his superior speed, taijutsu, and sword Naruto has nothing to block with, to take Naruto head off. Conversely, Kage Bunshins would also be dispatched by Sasuke huge explosive jutsu. Lastly, Sasuke has his sharigan Genjutsu. Yep, so Naruto done pretty quick also. :nod

As for Orochimaru, him and Manda were already standing against the two Summon's for a short period last time. Plus, Orochimaru can attack way more efficently this fight, and really, Jiraiya hasn't shown that much outside of summons that would be to great here. Moreover, I think Sasuke would dispatch with Naruto and Sakura fast enough that he could help Orochimaru. In which case, I think Orochimaru and Sasuke win. (Also, even though he hasn't shown it or whatever, I still think Sasuke would summon some snakes...)

edit: Also, if I try and think of it in a more team oreinted manner, then I still don't see Sakura lasting for more then a couple of seconds... and I think it's more likely all the summons come out right away.

[Spell]

Eh :( Nothing to discuss. Oro and Sasuke are bashed.

[Woozie]

Easy victory for team konoha just because you underestimate someone who can make Itachi and Kisame run. Do you think that’s an easy feat?

Itachi and Kisame are were running in front of "one of the legendary three", so it's the same as Oro or Tsunade's level. Or reputation, to be more correct.

This doesn't reflect in Oro vs. Jiraiya power ratio in any way.

I don't think Sasuke would have much trouble killing both Sakura and Naruto.

I agree.

Sakura is a non-factor, and I doubt Naruto could survive longer than few minutes against Sasuke, at best.

IMO it depends how well Orochimaru can manage against the two sannin, because Sasuke is pretty much above Tsunade's level already, and Orochimaru seems superior to Jiraiya. If Sasuke can take Naruto and Sakura down fast enough, I think they'd win.

I think this is an even match-up.

Tsunade and Jiraiya kicked Oro's ass once and that's when Tsunade was frightened of blood and Jiraiya was stoned out of his mind. It's an easy victory for the JTNS Team.

Nope.

Jiraiya got his rib and leg broken by Oro and was hit unconcious during the fight. He was also saved by Tsunade from being devoured with Gamabunta by Manda in the end.

Practically 100% Tsunade made Oro flee by hitting him. On the other hand Tsunade who clearly had the most minor handicap was fighting toe-to-toe against Kabuto earlier. Besides on the other hand, Tsunade and Katsuya also had to be saved by Gamabunta from being devoured, even despite it being 2v1.

Jiraiya was getting his ass kicked.

[gabzilla]

I believe that current Sasuke can take both Sakura and Naruto at the same time.

But 2 sannin is too much for Oro.

Team "will of fire" wins.

I have to agree.

[Dre]

Team of 4 wins. Was this a joke thread?

[Kuya]

Well Jiraiya AND Tsunade should be enough but

it's whether or not Sasuke is gonna kick Oro's ass in the upcoming chapter(s).

[durtycheese]

Team of 4 wins. Was this a joke thread?

i think this was a biased joke thread. no way oro and sasuke would win, sasuke could easily be handled by naruto himself. and oro would get owned like he did before against 2 sannin. end of discussion.

[Kai]

Two medics...? In which one of them is the world's best along with her student?

This is overrape/molestation/kill/obliteration/destruction

[xxxodinxxx]

heh, I think Woozie just made this thread because he knows whats happening in chapter 343, and couldn't wait to start posting about Sasuke. Oh well, I think since Sasuke can neutralize Kyuubi he can take out Naruto and Sakura pretty fast, then its Orochimaru and Sasuke vs the other two Sannin. And since Kabuto was able to go toe-to-toe with Tsunade I think Sasuke can handle her pretty easily, and then its a double team against Jiraiya. And most people will say I am biased (and probably am to a certain extent) but I think people are seriously underestimating Sasuke's strength.

[Woozie]

Bumping up the thread.

Now if you excuse me, I must soar into the sky like the eye of a falcon, most of the answers in this thread are too mediocre in front of this Uchiha.

[P-I-M-P]

woozie, stop hugging oro's wang. you give him way too much credit.

[Blue]

You're an idiot. I'm tempted to trash this.

[LordUzumaki]

Sasuke and orochimaru will get the crap kicked out of them.

[Haku]

jiraiya + Tasunade >>>> oro

Naruto + saskura >>>>>sasuke

are u joking u got to medics, then two regansion users come on game over.

[Inosh]

sauske would probly take care of naruto and sakrua like he did in the low 300's but oro got his but whoped by tsunden alone but trow jiary in to the mix no contest unless sasuke beraks out the sharingan at a whloe other level like hedid in recnt chapters puls trow his crused seal in there its kinda up in the air

[Dudemancool]

Sasuke would kill Naruto and Sakura with a little difficulty, but not much. Manda and Oro would be able to hold their own for a good while against the other sannin and their summons until Sasuke comes in and helps (he would be quite a force in CS2). Sasuke and Oro wins after a hella battle.

[TreeofSephri]

The manga really needs to show more of Naruto's progress.

[darkwater297]

I even wonder if Manda ever got his sacrifices so would he even fight for Oro? 2 sannins > Orochimaru also I would like to say FRS would end up killing Sasuke if it had a chance to hit Sasuke.

[SpitefulSerpent5]

Oro and Sasuke alone is a definite loss, though they will put up one hell of a fight. But with any of the following added, they could win easily:

1) Kimimmaru
2) Kabuto
3) Edo Tensei
4) Zabuza Sword

But if not, pwnage by Team "Good Guy Pussies"

[Gentle Fist]

Team Konoha FTW!!!
Oro and Sasuke stand no chance, maybe if this was a 2 on 2 battle it would be fair.

[deeler3000]

SasuGay vs. kn3 & sakura:rotfl .......this is what would happen to sasugay:pwned &:modsmack& :laserbeam& :shrooms& :hlomp

Same thang with oro SOOOO......... :closed

[durtycheese]

naruto and sakura > cs2 spamming idiot sasuke...

[Vance]

Kisame was well and ready to fight Jiraiya. Itachi said to run, because of what he said. I believe that if they fought, they'd win, but then the rest of Konoha would fight with him...


I don't think Oro > Jiraiya and Tsunade.


The guy had some four eyed medic ninja, a lazy, uncooperating snake, and no arms, no Jutsu, and was extremely tired. He was fighting a PMSed Tsunade, a big ass snake, angry Naruto, Shizune, some pervy sage, a big ass toad, all of which were at peak condition.

He still left Tsunade as the only one truly standing. That is an impressive feat...Definately. Oro wins...

[Athena Citra]

Even if there is a gap between Orochimaru and Jiraiya, Tsunade is more than enough to make for it. As for Sasuke, I doubt he'd get by as well. Naruto isn't the Shadow Clone-spamming imbecile he was before and with a little help from Sakura, I don't doubt he could land Wind Style: Rasengan on Sasuke. Even if he couldn't, I don't think Sasuke would be healthy enough to deal with the left-overs of the Sannin battle.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

Why the hell would people think Sakura & Naruto will be able to hold Sasuke? Jeez, one stab to Sakura's head & she is over.. While Naruto's enraged, Sasuke cast Sharingan & kill him with Nagashi...

If I am not mistaken, Oro was in the body he fought with Saru but his techniques weren't sealed by Saru.. Right? If so, how the hell would Jiraiya & Tsunade would beat Oro while they both had hard time to fight Oro without two hands... (It's true Jiraiya ate drugs but he was recovered when he summoned Manda I think... Tsunade overcame HematoPhobia & land 1 powerful hit on Oro but unable to immobolize him with one hit which allowed Oro to escape)

With Sasuke's help... Oro wins!

[Vance]

Amen, man, Amen...

[Dudemancool]

Sasuke is, according to himself, a level beyond Oro. he doesnt seem to be the type to overestimate or underestimate people's abilities PTS.

Sasuke made both Juugo (psychopathic insane badass killer who didnt seem to fear oro) and Suigetsu (the genius badass who loves bloodshed almost as much as Zabuza, and he also seemed to hold Oro's power with lower regard then Sasuke's) piss themselves with a death threat.

the Akatsuki seemed to consider Deidara (most likely without C4) on par with Oro.

Sasuke was owning Deidara (again without C4) even when he had Tobi carrying out their "that" strategy.


Id say Sasuke is equal or better then Oro.


Sasuke kills naruto and sakura pretty fast, Oro holds off the Sannin like he did in their last fight. Sasuke helps him, Oro and Sasuke wins.

[SpitefulSerpent5]

I think Sasuke would be able to take out Sakura and Naruto, but will be pretty screwed up by the end of the fight. Oro has shown he can hold his own against both Tsunade and Jiraiya, but with all of them at full health I have to give it the two Sannin, mostly because Tsunade can heal.

From what I can tell, Konoha wins closely. Adding Kimi or Kabuto to Team Sound would grant them a win, and with Edo Tensei, Team Sound would rape them so quickly it's not even funny. (lol, what if Sasuke knows Edo Tensei as well? Two/Three Hokages as well as and undead Kimi and somebody else? Ownage in full.)

[Euraj]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

Why the hell would people think Sakura & Naruto will be able to hold Sasuke? Jeez, one stab to Sakura's head & she is over.. While Naruto's enraged, Sasuke cast Sharingan & kill him with Nagashi... You really don't have any grounds to say Sasuke could destroy the fox once Naruto willingly accepted it's power. Naruto threw a temper tantrum and went into his strongest stage just because he felt a friend was disrespected. Imagine what would happen if his crush died. Sasuke would be annihilated by just the tails of Naruto's fury alone.

If I am not mistaken, Oro was in the body he fought with Saru but his techniques weren't sealed by Saru.. Right? If so, how the hell would Jiraiya & Tsunade would beat Oro while they both had hard time to fight Oro without two hands... (It's true Jiraiya ate drugs but he was recovered when he summoned Manda I think... Tsunade overcame HematoPhobia & land 1 powerful hit on Oro but unable to immobolize him with one hit which allowed Oro to escape)

With Sasuke's help... Oro wins!Everyone in that fight was limited, not just Orochimaru. Tsunade was so tripped-out that even a Genin was able to put a better fight than she could. Now keep in mind, just when she was "starting" to recover, the tables quickly turned. The only way you could use anything in that fight that in Orochimaru's favor would be if he didn't lose... Badly.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

You really don't have any grounds to say Sasuke could destroy the fox once Naruto willingly accepted it's power. Naruto threw a temper tantrum and went into his strongest stage just because he felt a friend was disrespected. Imagine what would happen if his crush died. Sasuke would be annihilated by just the tails of Naruto's fury alone.

OMG, WTH are ya talking about? :> U are referring Naruto as if he was a gay by "Crush"... :P Did ya really understand the fact that Sasuke can compress/suppress Kyuubi's power totally? & also the fact that after suppressing its power/ dispelling it, Naruto won't be unable to covert to Kyuubi's tail state for a while? (Like what happened to Gaara....) First, I meant Sasuke suppress Kyuubi's chakra & uses shunshin to get behind Naruto & Sakura.. Then uses Chidori Nagashi.. Then slice Naruto's head off with Lightning Needle.. Then go for Sakura after that.. Sakura's melee-fighter.. Sasuke will have no problem of it as he has Chidori Nagashi & Lightning Needle.. Moreover, he has Kusanagi.. Frankly speaking, U are underestimating Sasuke.. :laugh

Everyone in that fight was limited, not just Orochimaru. Tsunade was so tripped-out that even a Genin was able to put a better fight than she could. Now keep in mind, just when she was "starting" to recover, the tables quickly turned. The only way you could use anything in that fight that in Orochimaru's favor would be if he didn't lose... Badly.


So, what can a normal ninja without two hands can do? (Deidara can swallow, which is an exception..) To perform ninjutsu, genjutsu, tensei-no-jutsu require seal performing (Or by hi-jutsu)... Tsunade with Hemato is better than Oro without two hands... & Jiraiya with low chakra(he was able to manipulate only few amount of chakra) is better than using no Nin-jutsu like Oro...! Tsunade without receiving any hit was about to be hit by Kabuto if not for the creepy appearance of Naruto.... Meaning, without trembling, Tsunade was inferior to Kabuto.... :nod

With Sasuke killing Sakura & Naruto, he can easily assist Orochimaru... Which the battle is far "Wow!"... Okay, victory goes for Team Oro... :nuts

[Metric]

Spoiler Warning! :cry



OMG, WTH are ya talking about? :> U are referring Naruto as if he was a gay by "Crush"... :P Did ya really understand the fact that Sasuke can compress/suppress Kyuubi's power totally? & also the fact that after suppressing its power/ dispelling it, Naruto won't be unable to covert to Kyuubi's tail state for a while? (Like what happened to Gaara....) First, I meant Sasuke suppress Kyuubi's chakra & uses shunshin to get behind Naruto & Sakura.. Then uses Chidori Nagashi.. Then slice Naruto's head off with Lightning Needle.. Then go for Sakura after that.. Sakura's melee-fighter.. Sasuke will have no problem of it as he has Chidori Nagashi & Lightning Needle.. Moreover, he has Kusanagi.. Frankly speaking, U are underestimating Sasuke.. :laugh




So, what can a normal ninja without two hands can do? (Deidara can swallow, which is an exception..) To perform ninjutsu, genjutsu, tensei-no-jutsu require seal performing (Or by hi-jutsu)... Tsunade with Hemato is better than Oro without two hands... & Jiraiya with low chakra(he was able to manipulate only few amount of chakra) is better than using no Nin-jutsu like Oro...! Tsunade without receiving any hit was about to be hit by Kabuto if not for the creepy appearance of Naruto.... Meaning, without trembling, Tsunade was inferior to Kabuto.... :nod

With Sasuke killing Sakura & Naruto, he can easily assist Orochimaru... Which the battle is far "Wow!"... Okay, victory goes for Team Oro... :nuts

I have to agree.

Let's take the Oro vs Tsunade and Jiraiya first. I'm not saying that Oro can singlehandedly beat them, but he can hold them off for a long time.

In the Sannin fight, Oro has no arms, therefore no Ninjutsu. This is a crippling handicap, since he specialises in Ninjutsu. Its a bit like saying Jiraiya goes the entire fight unable to summon, its that big a deal. Meanwhile, Jiraiya has low chakras, but recovers from it, so he's pretty much fighting at decent health by the middle of the fight. Tsunade similarly has overcome her fear of blood and so she too is pretty much full health.

So by the end of the Sannin fight, a reasonably healthy jiraiya and reasonably healthy Tsunade are unable to kill Oro who cannot use his preferred moves (Ninjutsu), and who's arms are rotting away. In this fight, with a healthy Oro, he'll definitely be able to hold the other 2.


Now considering the Sasuke vs Sakura/ Naruto. Sasuke can suppress Kyuubi, so Naruto going KN1/2/3/4 is out of the question. I personally believe Sasuke's speed, Sharingan, summonings and CS would be able to take out both Naruto and Sakura relatively quickly.

This would lead to Oro and Sasuke vs Tsunade and Jiraiya. It would be very close, but i think Team Sound could just about win.

[Euraj]

OMG, WTH are ya talking about? :> U are referring Naruto as if he was a gay by "Crush"... :P Did ya really understand the fact that Sasuke can compress/suppress Kyuubi's power totally? & also the fact that after suppressing its power/ dispelling it, Naruto won't be unable to covert to Kyuubi's tail state for a while? (Like what happened to Gaara....) First, I meant Sasuke suppress Kyuubi's chakra & uses shunshin to get behind Naruto & Sakura.. Then uses Chidori Nagashi.. Then slice Naruto's head off with Lightning Needle.. Then go for Sakura after that.. Sakura's melee-fighter.. Sasuke will have no problem of it as he has Chidori Nagashi & Lightning Needle.. Moreover, he has Kusanagi.. Frankly speaking, U are underestimating Sasuke.. :laugh So Sasuke will be able to kill Sakura and freeze the Nine-Tails at the same time? I don't think so. Sasuke broke the Fox/Naruto connection with Genjutsu, and Jiraiya tells us Genjutsu is dispelled by over-whealming the caster with chakra. If Naruto just gains one tail, getting rid of its chakra will be out of his reach. Good job acting like Sasuke is the only one allowed to move.




So, what can a normal ninja without two hands can do? (Deidara can swallow, which is an exception..) To perform ninjutsu, genjutsu, tensei-no-jutsu require seal performing (Or by hi-jutsu)... Tsunade with Hemato is better than Oro without two hands... & Jiraiya with low chakra(he was able to manipulate only few amount of chakra) is better than using no Nin-jutsu like Oro...! Tsunade without receiving any hit was about to be hit by Kabuto if not for the creepy appearance of Naruto.... Meaning, without trembling, Tsunade was inferior to Kabuto.... :nod No, Tsunade with Hemato is not better than Oro without hands unless you're going to suggest Kabuto could have just as easily knocked around his master as he did Tsunade during her freak-out. Without hands and his nerdy subordinate to do Jutsu for him, Orochimaru and his Kusanagi lost to a rusty Tsunade who only used one jutsu. Like I pointed out before, as soon as the Fifth recovered form her problem, Orochimaru didn't stand a chance.

With Sasuke killing Sakura & Naruto, he can easily assist Orochimaru... Which the battle is far "Wow!"... Okay, victory goes for Team Oro... :nutsI'm sure they will in your world of only my cool shinobi are allowed to attack. You don't seem to like thinking of the people on the other side ever striking first, -like Naruto usually does-, or them ever countering.

[SAMSARA]

Seeing as how Jiraiya can somehow kill both Itachi and Kisame "no matter the number of reinforcements they have", I don't doubt he could kill Orochimaru if the situation became dire enough for him to use whatever jutsu he had. If Orochimaru is stronger than Jiraiya, there is no way that it would be at such a level where Tsunade wouldn't do more than close the gap. Even with Edo Tensei, looking at Itachi's suggestions, Jiraiya would still turn the tables.

I don't think Naruto and Sakura could pull a clean victory over Sasuke. If anything, they'd be best at just holding him off until one of the Sannin could help them out. Even with his speed, I doubt he could kill both Naruto and Sakura before they could lay down a defense. That's unreasonable.

OMG, WTH are ya talking about? :> U are referring Naruto as if he was a gay by "CrushI'm pretty sure he was talking about Sakura, dude. :neutral

If Sasuke kills Sakura, I'm sure Naruto isn't just going to shake it off. Whether he wants to or not, when he loses his temper, the tails come. We have no proof that Sasuke could stop the Kyuubi once Naruto dived into it's power. If anything, we have things proving otherwise.

[Aokiji]

Kn4 plus someone, who's stronger than Itachi and Kisame combined, plus someone with insane regen=GG Oro+Sauckay.

EDIT: Sakura is a nonfactor.

[Law]

lol Naruto is allowed to go KN4 here?
Really?

Ok KN4 fights Oro

Jiraiya, Tsunade and Sakura fight Sasuke


Then Jiraiya and Tsunade (at least) walk over and put the snake-pedo down.

This is really not even a fair fight. Even if you believe that someone is more powerful than someone else, it doesn't mean they can beat 2-3 people of that power.

I personally believe that I could have done this two other ways as well:

Method 2:

Jiraiya vs Oro

KN4, Sakura, and Tsunade vs Sasuke

Method 3:

Tsunade vs Oro

KN4, Sakura, Jiraiya vs Sasuke


The Only person in this fight that couldn't go toe-to-toe with Oro is Sakura.

No matter how you swing this, it's 4 on 2, and the 3 of the 4 are on par with both of their opponents. This is a victory for the good guys...taking maybe one casualty.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

So Sasuke will be able to kill Sakura and freeze the Nine-Tails at the same time? I don't think so. Sasuke broke the Fox/Naruto connection with Genjutsu, and Jiraiya tells us Genjutsu is dispelled by over-whealming the caster with chakra. If Naruto just gains one tail, getting rid of its chakra will be out of his reach. Good job acting like Sasuke is the only one allowed to move.

After seeing their first encounter.. Yes... :P Okay, now I will be serious.. Sasuke goes kill Sakura who has no speed.. First chidori Nagashi... Second, slice her head off.. Third, Naruto enraged... Fourth, Sasuke's suppression power didn't comes from Chakra.. Rather the will.. The will more evil than Kyuubi as he said.. Fifth, Sasuke suppresses Kyuubi.. Sixth, Sasuke gets behind Naruto.. Seventh, Sasuke uses Chidori Nagashi... Eight, Sasuke impales Naruto's head... Ninth, given both ninja's speed.. I know that none of them can match Sasuke cuz they dun even have surrounding advantages like Gaara & Deidara had... :amuse


No, Tsunade with Hemato is not better than Oro without hands unless you're going to suggest Kabuto could have just as easily knocked around his master as he did Tsunade during her freak-out. Without hands and his nerdy subordinate to do Jutsu for him, Orochimaru and his Kusanagi lost to a rusty Tsunade who only used one jutsu. Like I pointed out before, as soon as the Fifth recovered form her problem, Orochimaru didn't stand a chance.

Before trembling, Tsunade lost to Kabuto if not for Naruto's appearance.... Oro had to use Kabuto cuz he had no hands as I mentioned... After that Kabuto did nothing... Kabuto = Medical Ninja, Orochimaru = Forbidden Art Master, u noe who is better in Taijutsu... Like I said before, Tsunade without Hemato lost Kabuto in term of sense & speed.. There's no way she is superior to Oro in that field.. :nod

I'm sure they will in your world of only my cool shinobi are allowed to attack. You don't seem to like thinking of the people on the other side ever striking first, -like Naruto usually does-, or them ever countering.

Oh, yep, my cool shinobis are speedy unlike annoying shinobis... Naruto can't counter cuz we had seen what he is capable of against Sasuke after the first encounter... As for Sakura, she is melee-fighter, who is even worse... :nuts

[G-Man]

Jiraiya summons Gamabunta, or better yet, let's Naruto summon Gamabunta while he summons the next biggest toad, Tsunade summons Katsuyu, and Sakura hangs back and heals whenever necessary.

Orochimaru summons Manda, and Sasuke would presumably summon the next biggest snake possible... except we know the last thing Manda said to Orochimaru was that he'd kill him the next he saw him. Not good for Team Sound.

So that means, unless Manda respects Sasuke big time (doubtful as Sasuke would never have given him sacrifices since he doesn't like needless killing), Manda isn't an option so they are going to have to rely on the second and third biggest snakes against the best toad and slug and the second best toad. Not good odds.

Sasuke can take to the skies, but seperating from Orochimaru's side isn't a good idea against the newly improved Naruto, Jiraiya, and Tsunade. He's not that uber yet.

And to makes matters worse, even if he and Orochimaru succeed in killing Tsunade Jiraiya and Sakura, Naruto may go berzerk and go four tails or worse.

The deck is stacked against them. Unless Sasuke's Kyuubi Sealing works even when Naruto is not also fighting the Kyuubi, and even then they are at a huge disadvantage.

[glenmiyashiro]

umm...i think we're doing some HUGE underestimation here. Sasuke kills Naruto and Sakura in a matter of seconds? Umm...no. Just...no.

It's called teamwork. You really think one is gonna just sit there while Sasuke kills the other. I don't think so. I think Naruto has gotten to a level to at least hold his own against Sasuke for a decent amount of time, and having Sakura there takes it over the top. She's gifted in dispelling genjutsu and realizing quickly when she is in one. Sasuke will go CS2, take the upper hand, but...

Jiraiya could probably hold his own vs. Oro long enough for Tsunade to go and help Naruto and Sakura. And when that happens, Sasuke is done. Then they all turn around and gang rape Oro, and he'll probably like it.

Mostly my opinion, of course, but saying Sasuke takes down both Naruto AND Sakura in a matter of seconds is just blasphemy at it's purest.

[Cam]

Lol lol lol lol lol.I find this thread ridiculous there is no way Sasuke and Oro can win this.And even more ridiculous people actually think Sasuke and Oro can win. I had to laugh when the thread starter referred to Tsunade and Sakura like they would just go hide some where because they are medic nins.Sakura and Naruto are enough to hold back Sasuke.And Jiraiya and Tsunade will obliterate Oro.Tsunade will heal herself and Jiraiya then the go help their students kill Sasuke.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry



Lol lol lol lol lol.I find this thread ridiculous there is no way Sasuke and Oro can win this.And even more ridiculous people actually think Sasuke and Oro can win. I had to laugh when the thread starter referred to Tsunade and Sakura like they would just go hide some where because they are medic nins.Sakura and Naruto are enough to hold back Sasuke.And Jiraiya and Tsunade will obliterate Oro.Tsunade will heal herself and Jiraiya then the go help their students kill Sasuke.

Question 1 ---> What kind of speed do Naruto & Sakura had to match with Sasuke?
Answer 1 ---> Sasuke wins both of them for that matter...

Question 2 ---> Tsunade & Jiraiya are good combination, however did ya assume Oro will be taken out that easily after recovering his two hands?
Answer 2 ---> Tsunade's medic, she is one of the ninja who has highest dexterity.. But that doesn't involves for dodging Oro's snake attacks... :wink

Statement 1 ---> For someone above, Manda did say he will kill Oro.. However, if Oro gives him sacrifices, I think this matter is no prob.. Also, Manda favors strong people like Kabuto said.. So I doubt he will go against Sasuke who is even more sinister & has higher murderous intent than 2 A++ Shinobis... :notrust

Statement 2 ---> Sakura = Melee-fighter, Naruto = Shadow clone Addict + Rasengan-user.. Both are melee, Sasuke's Chidori Nagashi is the best... They didn't know of Sasuke's lighting needle.. Victory goes to Sasuke... :nod

Statement 3 ---> What kind of team work did we see in first encounter in which Sakura was unable to react Sasuke's shunshin.. :nuts

(Ps - Dun make me reply more than thrice to same person or else u will see my mad mode...) :mad

[Cam]

(Lol to your mad mode threat.) Do you really think Sasuke can own current Naruto and Sakura? Cause if you do you must be smoking the good stuff.Sakura and Naruto are capable to keep Sasuke at bay.

Jeez you are severely underestimating Jiraiya and Tsunade.The sannin are basically equal if 2 team up against on 1 its over.

Manda will be more of a problem to Oro than help he will probably not go after Oro but he sure as hell isn't gonna listen to him he will rush after Kats and Gama and we've seen how that will turn out.If Tsunade gets a hold of Gama's sword again its over just like last time.Manda is fast but can't battle Kats and Gama with their masters at full power.

That was the first time Sakura saw him of course she wasn't able to react it will be completely different and as I said Sasuke has to attack one of them first he might think to go to Sakura and as soon as that happens Naruto will attack.

Sakura will most likely just serve as a distraction for Sasuke by throwing boulders braking the ground and stuff.

And Tsu and Jiraiya will finish up Oro and come and assist in the Sasuke fight.

I really don't care how much times u reply cause I'm sure it will be some BS since I've read your other posts on this thread.

[durtycheese]

orochimaru=sharingan failure, cant buy a victory except for beating an old fart named sarutobi

sasuke=couldnt buy a victory in part 1 and can only win with cs2 in part 2

OROCHIMARU= FAIL
SASUKE=FAIL

[Creator]

Simple. The sannins all summon. And fight against each other and Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke fight each other and Oro and Sasuke lose at the end. Simple logic. Number wins.

[Zelkova]

Off-topic Suggestion --> I dun care for now cuz this is my 2nd reply to ya in this thread.. I juzt warned u cuz if I am mad I dun have any mercy in which I completely de-stated total number of 3 from 2 topics... But if ya wish, ya can try... :nuts

Spoiler Warning! :cry


(Lol to your mad mode threat.) Do you really think Sasuke can own current Naruto and Sakura? Cause if you do you must be smoking the good stuff.Sakura and Naruto are capable to keep Sasuke at bay.

- Sasuke can own current Naruto & Sakura with so lil effort... :wink

Jeez you are severely underestimating Jiraiya and Tsunade.The sannin are basically equal if 2 team up against on 1 its over.

- It's not like I underestimated, I calculated their strengths already.. & I really think it's u people who overestimated the word "Sannin".. :amuse

Manda will be more of a problem to Oro than help he will probably not go after Oro but he sure as hell isn't gonna listen to him he will rush after Kats and Gama and we've seen how that will turn out.If Tsunade gets a hold of Gama's sword again its over just like last time.Manda is fast but can't battle Kats and Gama with their masters at full power.

- Yep, I know Manda rushed out.. But do ya actually know that Oro didn't complain him.. It's called mutual-understanding.. & Oro stated that it was difficult to fight both sannins.. Meaning, he didn't blame Manda.. & yes, he was at disadvantage becuz he can't use his hands... If Tsunade gets a hold of Gama's sword, do ya think Manda will fall for same trick twice? & Oro will not counter when he can use two hands to perform continuous jutsus? :notrust

That was the first time Sakura saw him of course she wasn't able to react it will be completely different and as I said Sasuke has to attack one of them first he might think to go to Sakura and as soon as that happens Naruto will attack.

-Regardless of first time, both Sai & Yamato were able to react... Also, u avoided my question about that in which Sakura & Naruto's speed are high enough to deal with Sasuke... :huh Sasuke can evade all Naruto's Kagebunshin & counter Rasenshuriken becuz of Lightning Needle which is of ranged & accuracy increased by Sharingan..

Sakura will most likely just serve as a distraction for Sasuke by throwing boulders braking the ground and stuff.

-Sakura will serve as distraction? Do ya actually think like that when Sakura can't even evade Sasuke's attack & that super-boosted speed with Sharingan?(Increased evasion & accuracy) Throwing boulder is nothing special as Sasuke's Lightning Needle can cut things as butter... After getting close enough to Sakura, Sasuke can use chidori Nagashi & slice her head off...

And Tsu and Jiraiya will finish up Oro and come and assist in the Sasuke fight.

-Tsunade & Jiraiya will not assist as they are busy fighting Oro full power(two hands).. Also, do ya think tired-up Jiraiya & Tsunade will do any good to Oro's immortal snake form? (Tired-up cuz of their arrays of jutsus to counter Oro's attack..)

I really don't care how much times u reply cause I'm sure it will be some BS since I've read your other posts on this thread.

-If ya dun care, why are u still talking back about that matter? :P

[Cam]

Once again Sasuke can not own Naruto and Sakura.Sasuke will most likely go after Sakura then Naruto will go kyuubi and since Sasuke doesn't know about Sakura's abilities he will be taken by surprise.

Oro is a SANNIN. so you are overestimating a sannin. You must be touched in the head if your calculations said Oro can win this.

Kats and Gama can take Manda and Tsunade and Jiraiya can take Oro.

If Sasuke goes after Sakura she can surprise him with her abilities and Naruto will mostly be battling Sasuke and Sakura will just be support.

And this is my last post on this thread cause this fight is over kill Oro and Sasuke just don't have a chance.

[Woozie]

Kyuubi modes are allowed for Naruto, but they would all be irrelevant in this fight, as Sasuke can just suppress the Kyuubi's chakra instantly after Naruto starts to mold it.

I can't see Sakura being anything more than a non-factor against either opponents. Orochimaru could literally just paralyze her for the rest of the fight with sheer killing intent, and she can't even see Sasuke's movement speed - it would be impossible for her to even fight him in any way.

Manga has shown Jiraiya is no match for Orochimaru in one on one, and that Orochimaru can hold his own against both of the sannin for quite a while.

Really, I'm still giving this fight to the former sound elite.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry


Once again Sasuke can not own Naruto and Sakura.Sasuke will most likely go after Sakura then Naruto will go kyuubi and since Sasuke doesn't know about Sakura's abilities he will be taken by surprise.

I would like to see Sakura takes Sasuke by surprise... Also, why aren't u still answering about the term of speed? Are ya still avoiding it?

Oro is a SANNIN. so you are overestimating a sannin. You must be touched in the head if your calculations said Oro can win this.

Oro is a sannin but after seeing him fighting with K4, he is the one that is not at the ur-everyday-sannin... I stated Oro + Sasu can win this cuz of the fact I saw his abilities during the fight with K4 & before the ritual.. Aren't ya also a bit off with ur head when hearing "Tsunade"? I had seen of ya replying in every Tsunade threads that I read so far & always tried to counter me whenever I say disadvantages of Tsunade & then u flew away... :amazed

Kats and Gama can take Manda and Tsunade and Jiraiya can take Oro.

It's not 2-1 match.. It's 4-2 match, Oro & Manda are working as a team & with arrays of jutsus Oro can perform.. I am sure Oro will be able to hold them off before using true form... :laugh

If Sasuke goes after Sakura she can surprise him with her abilities and Naruto will mostly be battling Sasuke and Sakura will just be support.

Before catching surprise, Sasuke can slice her head off.. & did ya forget that Sakura's power comes from channeling up chakra in which Sasuke can see with his sharingan..? :nuts

And this is my last post on this thread cause this fight is over kill Oro and Sasuke just don't have a chance.

Oh, running away as usual? Take ur time running.. :nod

If ya wanna end the debation, u should try de-stating others' opinions instead of going on & on about one thing..

[durtycheese]

Manga has shown Jiraiya is no match for Orochimaru in one on one, and that Orochimaru can hold his own against both of the sannin for quite a while.

Really, I'm still giving this fight to the former sound elite.

the manga has shown? or is it your stupid little head that has shown that?

stop being an idiot.

[YellowFlash23]

Jiraiya and Tsunade kick Oro's ass, and Sakura and Naruto kick Sasuke's ass. It really isn't even a competition.

[Zelkova]

Jiraiya and Tsunade kick Oro's ass, and Sakura and Naruto kick Sasuke's ass. It really isn't even a competition.

Not really... :wink

the manga has shown? or is it your stupid little head that has shown that?

He was referring to the spike vs long-neck fight, & the K4 fight.. :laugh

[durtycheese]

Not really... :wink



He was referring to the spike vs long-neck fight, & the K4 fight.. :laugh

well hes an idiot cause that fight didnt prove shit, and whoever thinks it did is an idiot as well. orochimaru is a failure, and hasnt beaten anyone except an old sarutobi and a bunch of fodder.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry (Juzt a bit)

well hes an idiot cause that fight didnt prove shit, and whoever thinks it did is an idiot as well. orochimaru is a failure, and hasnt beaten anyone except an old sarutobi and a bunch of fodder.

I dun believe of the first one but I believe of the latter.. After seeing Jiraiya beaten up & 6 ribs broken.. While Oro was up to good(I meant, recovered) when his 2nd encounter with Naruto.. So Oro > Jirai, proved fact.. Got something to say? :nod

[Longcat is Long]

The only way I can see Orochimaru and Sasuke winning is if one of them takes out Sakura, causing Naruto to go into KN4 stage, where he's uncontrollable and will attack either team. It shouldn't be too hard, she's the least resilient fighter in the entire match.

After that, even if Naruto is sealed by Jiraiya or Tsunade they'll have lost a teammate since Naruto will be unconscious.

Manda's issue with Orochimaru is usually assumed to have been reconciled in matchups, but I can't see him dealing with both Gamabunta and Katsuyu at the same time, so more giant snakes will need to be summoned.(Like in chapter 165)

From there it'd be Orochimaru and Sasuke vs Jiraiya and Tsunade.

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry


lol Naruto is allowed to go KN4 here?
Really?

Ok KN4 fights Oro

Jiraiya, Tsunade and Sakura fight Sasuke


Then Jiraiya and Tsunade (at least) walk over and put the snake-pedo down.

This is really not even a fair fight. Even if you believe that someone is more powerful than someone else, it doesn't mean they can beat 2-3 people of that power.

First of all, the battle ground is 2-4 head on.. So, ya can't assume a fight like that... Instead, they will work as a team... :wink

I personally believe that I could have done this two other ways as well:

Method 2:

Jiraiya vs Oro

KN4, Sakura, and Tsunade vs Sasuke

Jiraiya vs Oro means a sure kill.. smile-big

Method 3:

Tsunade vs Oro

KN4, Sakura, Jiraiya vs Sasuke

Okay, if Naruto transforms Kyuubi in front of Sasuke, Sasuke suppresses... If not, Sasuke uses shunshin & put a distance with him & konoha team for a while in which K4 will attack Sakura x Jiraiya... :amuse


The Only person in this fight that couldn't go toe-to-toe with Oro is Sakura.

Well said.. :nuts

No matter how you swing this, it's 4 on 2, and the 3 of the 4 are on par with both of their opponents. This is a victory for the good guys...taking maybe one casualty.

oh, why did ya assume it's seperated fight.. To be fair & square, dun seperate them in first place.. Why dun they attack in a team? :> Farfetched/One-sided-favor situation??? :oh

Also, do ya think Sasuke will go after 3 nins while he left Oro all alone?? Or?? :huh

(Ps - If it wasn't for someone's bitching, I wouldn't have replied it in the first place..) :laugh

(Btw - Good statement, Long cat..)

[durtycheese]

Spoiler Warning! :cry (Juzt a bit)



I dun believe of the first one but I believe of the latter.. After seeing Jiraiya beaten up & 6 ribs broken.. While Oro was up to good(I meant, recovered) when his 2nd encounter with Naruto.. So Oro > Jirai, proved fact.. Got something to say? :nod

proven fact??? orochimaru ran instead of trying to seal it. thats the FACT. wtf are you poeple making up???

[Zelkova]

Spoiler Warning! :cry

proven fact??? orochimaru ran instead of trying to seal it. thats the FACT. wtf are you poeple making up???


Proven fact.. Cuz the battle had no effect on Oro after 1/2 days while Jiraiya's ribs were broken.. BTW, sealing technique to medium is far easier than the original one.. Cuz one can disrupt the flow of two chakra entirity or divide two flows.. Then, the jutsu is dispelled.. Given even if Oro's hand melt, he can regenerate.. Oro can perform Five Seals or any other sealing technique to dispel the technique... WTH, I wasn't making up... :nuts